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In the United States conducted the third test tactical hypersonic missiles PrSM

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In the United States conducted the third test tactical hypersonic missiles PrSM

In the United States, the third tests of a promising operational tactical missile under the Precision Strike Missile (PrSM) program were completed. As stated in the press service of Lockheed Martin Corporation, the test was carried out for a short range and was recognized as completely successful.


Tests were reportedly completed on April 30 at the White Sands missile test site in New Mexico. A promising missile was launched at a distance of 85 km from the M142 launcher of the HIMARS missile system. It is noted that the missile successfully hit the target with a "real combat unit."

Today’s PrSM Test, a very stressful short-range shot, is the third successful flight test to prove the effectiveness, survivability and reliability of a basic tactical missile

- The corporation said in a statement.

Earlier, Lockheed Martin performed the first two tests of its PrSM rocket at the White Sands training range - on December 10, 2019 at a range of 240 km and on March 10, 2020 at a range of about 180 km.

Launched in 2017, the Precision Strike Missile (PrSM) program involves the creation of a new generation of high-precision operational-tactical missiles with a speed of more than 5 Mach numbers and an official initially declared range of 60 to 499 km, but the development was carried out taking into account the US withdrawal from the INF Treaty. According to reports, the rocket is now capable of flying up to 550 km, and according to other sources - up to 700-750 km. The new hypersonic missile is being developed as a replacement for the obsolete ammunition of the ATACMS operational tactical systems, in addition, the military is also considering the possibility of using the new ammunition on the M270A1 MLRS and M142 HIMARS multiple launch rocket systems.

In the future, the new missile should replace the Lockheed Martin MGM-140 ATACMS tactical missiles. Serial production is planned for the 2023 year.
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  1. Mountain shooter
    Mountain shooter 3 May 2020 10: 55 New
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    We were surprised! Do they now have all their missiles hypersonic? Even those on which there is no ramjet for hypersound, and fly towards the target by inertia, at speeds much less than 5M? And I remember here, they staged a headwash, for "Dagger" and "Iskander" tongue
    Well, of course, the star-stripped ALL super-duper ... and generally gentlemen decided to take their word for it.
    Even the "flying penguin" is a 5th generation aircraft !!! With a limited 50 seconds supersonic sound !! ??
    1. aleksejkabanets
      aleksejkabanets 3 May 2020 10: 59 New
      +3
      Quote: Mountain Shooter
      We were surprised! Do they now have all their missiles hypersonic? Even those on which there is no ramjet for hypersound, and fly to the target by inertia, at speeds much less than 5M? And I remember here, they made a headwash, for "Dagger" and "Iskander" tongue
      Well, of course, the star-stripped ALL super-duper ... and generally gentlemen decided to take their word for it.
      Even the "flying penguin" is a 5th generation aircraft !!! With a limited 50 seconds supersonic sound !! ??

      Underestimating the enemy, a common cause of defeat. Maybe it’s enough to engage in hat-making already?
      1. Mountain shooter
        Mountain shooter 3 May 2020 11: 02 New
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        Quote: aleksejkabanets

        Underestimating the enemy, a common cause of defeat. Maybe it’s enough to engage in hat-making already?

        And overestimation leads to unnecessary huge costs ("Star Wars" isn't it?) ... You need to know and understand the challenges. But adequate ... equivalent to a real threat.
        1. Teller
          Teller 3 May 2020 12: 07 New
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          Quote: Mountain Shooter
          Quote: aleksejkabanets

          Underestimating the enemy, a common cause of defeat. Maybe it’s enough to engage in hat-making already?

          And overestimation leads to unnecessary huge costs ("Star Wars" isn't it?) ... You need to know and understand the challenges. But adequate ... equivalent to a real threat.

          Well done, Zhenya, and here they constantly drive it into our brains so that we shut up .. and praise Western and Israeli developments .. But there’s nothing special to praise, they fell behind .. hi
          1. Sniper Amateur
            Sniper Amateur 3 May 2020 12: 45 New
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            there’s nothing much to praise, they are behind ..

            Do you really think that even if everyone is convinced: "Yes, they are behind!" - will it somehow help in battle? The bullet and the projectile are violet, what is the opinion of the targeted target.
            They laughed at us a lot when the Supply Service of the Corps by some unknown winding paths laughing I got four "maxims" and in our bath they formed a spray platoon from them. And "the other side" - they laughed too. Until his first attempt to attack the defensive midfielders, where the “maxims” were set. Then, for some reason, they became sharply unfounded ... And instead of laughter, reports went upstairs about the "unusually dense continuous fire" of the "punishers" ...
            Position - "yes we, yes me, yes my cool chick!" - I have never brought anyone to any good. Even in school showdowns. And even more so in war.
            That will be placed in 5-7-10 years again some "backward" amerskiye MRBM in Europe - what of the "not having analogFF" will you cover?
            1. sabakina
              sabakina 3 May 2020 13: 46 New
              -3
              Amateur Sniper (My nickname is Ship)) Which side are you writing on?
              1. Sniper Amateur
                Sniper Amateur 3 May 2020 14: 00 New
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                Let me introduce myself:
                "stoned" dill " laughing
                from May 2014 to August 2015 - the "punisher" of the junta. laughing
                5th baht, 1st assault.
                1. kjhg
                  kjhg 3 May 2020 14: 44 New
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                  Do not regret it?
                  1. Sniper Amateur
                    Sniper Amateur 3 May 2020 15: 40 New
                    -9
                    About what?? They did not call me - I decided. And at age 16 - you can already be aware of the actions and their consequences.
                    The question then was: will we give a fight - or Crimea - Donbass - then South Ukraine and the Dnieper - and then everywhere (well, maybe - except for Galicia; to be honest, it has not fallen to anyone even in Ukraine, except the Galicians themselves) - Russian, I think the same way).
                    Therefore, the question was simple to stupidity: and if not me and not us, then WHO pancake?
                    CSKA - "regulars"? And they really were then? Guard? So it was then VOKHR near the convoy - with all the consequences ...
                    By the way - in LDNR the question was exactly the same then. In their 1st army - even boys and girls fought younger than my then age. Not that it was massive - but there were. Our baht once captured a 14-year-old. A little half-fingering and of course let go.
                    This is a civil war (albeit with a supplementary intervention). On it everyone has their own Truth and their own understanding of Duty. Personally, I don’t condemn separatists. Why should they "love Ukraine"? I have absolutely no regrets about killing them, but I also absolutely do not blame them. They have one choice, I have another. Either the strongest will win, or we will come to some kind of compromise. HZ how it will be, I'm not a fortune-teller.
                    1. kjhg
                      kjhg 3 May 2020 16: 05 New
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                      Quote: Sniper Amateur
                      That I killed them - I absolutely do not regret it, but I do not blame them absolutely.

                      At this age, adolescents are hyperemotional and subject to manipulation. Time will pass. You will become an adult woman with great life experience, with your children ... People will live together again, as before. Russians and Ukrainians will again begin to live fraternally, as they have lived for centuries. Everyone will forget about that war, except for those who lost their loved ones in that war. Imagine your daughter will marry a guy from Lugansk or Donetsk. And then, sitting at the same table with her new relatives, the mother of your new son-in-law, whose father died under shelling in 2014, and she herself was miraculously alive, finds out that you fought there and killed them. Do you think you can look them in the eye? Will not be ashamed of his crimes against these people?
                      1. Sniper Amateur
                        Sniper Amateur 3 May 2020 16: 49 New
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                        Well, first of all, the Markswoman does not shoot at cities. Those whom you call "motorized rifle squad sniper shooters" have "slightly" different tasks. SVDkha is not something that people use to shoot at "Stalino" or "Voroshilovgrad". In our Corps, the upper limit in terms of heavy weapons was an incomplete battery (5 pcs.) "Rapier" was. In our bath - in general, only 82-mm minrota.
                        And secondly - what will she say to me - if her daughter-son-father-our people were killed? Does this work in both directions, or not?
                        PS I understood you correctly that if ours are "hyperemotional, subject to manipulation," and if the same 13-14-15-year-old shketov-shketov-separatists, then these are "deeply aware" Boys-Kibalchishes "(yes, I I read a fairy tale, ours from the "red platoon" bata recommended, Gaidar was really cool as a writer!), not otherwise?
                        PSS I do not want children. In any case, for now. Nursing a younger brother was enough. bully
                      2. Krasnoyarsk
                        Krasnoyarsk 3 May 2020 17: 47 New
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                        Quote: Sniper Amateur
                        The upper limit for the corps in terms of heavy weapons - an incomplete battery (5 pcs.) "Rapier" was. In our bath - in general, only 82-mm minrota.

                        Madam, have you ever wondered why, when you fired from "Rapier" and 82-mm, in Donetsk and Lugansk wept, and in Washington rubbed their hands with pleasure? Or you, as an early age, is this idea too heavy for you? You should always ask yourself a simple question - who benefits? Is this war profitable for Donetsk and Lugansk? - No! Is it profitable for you, madam? Financial question aside, no! Is it profitable for Moscow? - No! And who benefits? This is beneficial for the united West. This war undermines the economic development of both Russia and Ukraine. This gives a chance to continue to be more developed than Russia and Ukraine.
                        You folly obeyed those who make money from war, those who are essentially your enemies.
                        We are sorry for you, poor, incapable of thinking on your own.
                      3. Sniper Amateur
                        Sniper Amateur 3 May 2020 19: 01 New
                        -5
                        Yes, we do not need, "poor" pancake, in pity. Not yours, not anyone else's. It was violet to me and the battalion and the Corps - who was where his hands or some other places "rubbed".
                        People in the LPNR decided that they had the right to raise a rebellion against Ukraine. Armed I will note. OK, no question! Everyone has the right to revolt if he thinks he is impatient. "Free Will" is called fucking in Christianity. And we decided - that we have the right to try (at least - but it will turn out, it will not work - initially it was the one who not "bloggers" all sorts - HZ) drive the rebellious under the shkonar. And we also had and have the right to do so. What is offended by anyone? If you get involved in a fight, you must understand the possible consequences. As for myself, this is still in the lower grades doperla: if you go from a fist to a burdock for a boy - do not expect that you will be thrown into "onazhagirl". Or someone thought - what would happen in Crimea: a challenge was thrown, a hit was made - but it was not accepted and merged? Well, yes - maybe someone thought. But what have we got to do with it?
                        And you might think - they didn't shoot at us. And not only from "Rapier" - it was also heavier. Up to 152 mm. Another "pleasure" I tell you. And to withstand a tank attack - well, this is all right all my life and only dreamed of! sad Our 1st assault - 15% of the composition lost in total in battles approximately. Well, okay, okay - my mother, let's say, did not care for me, and my father was present only in the form of sperm in my life. But I strongly suspect that the mothers of most of our 200s also didn’t shout with delight that their children were “dying like a Hero for the USSD”. And they cried.
                        This war is beneficial to Donetsk and Lugansk? - No!

                        It is not for me to conclude and define. I was the "senior soldier" (corporal in your opinion), not the "head of the republic." I have only one question here: well, why then did Donetsk and Lugansk rebelled?
                        PS And about the "financial question" - it was not in the Corps. I won't lie, I know - the "benches" assigned to the "regulars" did indeed receive a euro for a three-week trip. + differentiated premium for each head. And we even had cigarettes and a modest clearing for a removed enemy officer - Marksman. + gratitude of fighting girlfriends and friends (which is really priceless). And even then, if the tactical situation and supply conditions allowed.
                      4. Was mammoth
                        Was mammoth 3 May 2020 19: 56 New
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                        Quote: Sniper Amateur
                        People in LDNR - decided that they have the right to raise a rebellion against Ukraine. Armed with a note.

                        Defended themselves from an armed Nazi coup in Ukraine. Right.
                        Quote: Sniper Amateur
                        I have only one question here: well, why then did Donetsk and Lugansk rebel?

                        It is said above. The gulf between LDNR and Ukraine you dug. May be forever. You intimidated the rest in Ukraine, killed and burned as in Odessa.
                      5. Sniper Amateur
                        Sniper Amateur 3 May 2020 20: 50 New
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                        Defended themselves from an armed Nazi coup in Ukraine. Right.

                        I don’t even argue.
                        And we - destroyed those who raised weapons against Ukraine. Right. Also.
                        As my lecturers at the law faculty say - "legal conflict". Each side is "in its own right". And neither side can complain that the other side is exercising its right. Everyone who goes to war should be prepared for the fact that he will be killed on it. This is not a Commando cartoon, in which Schwartz crumbles a company alone without scratching (and without reloading laughing ) All is fair.
                        And about "the others were intimidated" .... I would like to see who can "intimidate" those in our company. I would look with great interest. And such - to fig and more. The people are still not . Although some% cattle - among the people there is always of course.
                        "Abyss" .... Maybe forever. Although .... In about ten years, Serbia and Bosnia will be in the common European Union. And how Serbs and Bosniaks "love" each other. Compared to the civil war in Bosnia, our South-East in the last six years is only kindergarten throwing poop at each other.
                        Well, tell me - if we had a "Nazi coup" - from whom then were the "red platoons" formed in the Corps' bats? commies-borotbisti, commies-anarchs, red skins ... - all of them are also "for" ukronatsi "- yes? And why then in the" people's militias "people also fight, starting from such commies who would gladly shoot dad Ziu for" opportunism "and to the open fascists, in comparison with whom the" PS "and the National Corps are" liberda "(do you also express themselves against the democrats?) Directly? Maybe it's not about ideology, but the eternal" disagreement on the agrarian question "(which is interesting to me - a member of the UCP from our Battalion gave me this formulation) between two worlds - what political and social views do the representatives of these worlds hold?
                        Although - what am I saying something: to admit it is a "break template" ...
                      6. Was mammoth
                        Was mammoth 3 May 2020 21: 30 New
                        +3
                        There is no collision. You came to kill in Donbass, not miners in Kiev and Lvov. Protecting not Ukraine, imposing Nazism and Bandera on it. Therefore, they did not welcome you with flowers. And, the fact that you are not one of the "fearful" -the worse for the future of Ukraine. You will shed more blood.
                        As a future lawyer, find articles at your leisure that you can "devote" to the coup in Kiev.
                        Tear yourself a template further. Maybe you realize that.
                        PS
                        Quote: Sniper Amateur
                        "red platoons"

                        Hitler also had a red flag.
                      7. Sniper Amateur
                        Sniper Amateur 3 May 2020 22: 29 New
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                        I understood correctly that we had to say to the "miners": oh what great fellows! - oh well, you and your DPR, LPR (and also with the Kharkiv and Odessa "people's republics" - there were such too; however, Odessa is purely virtual, but the Kharkov one - began to be created quite realistically) - go wherever you want, since you are with us no longer on the road! And grab - by no means forget - all those six more regions that the "Union of People's Republics of Novorossiya" claimed?
                        No, we'd better follow the advice of one "primordially Russian German-German" - and "go the other way." Blood is really bad. But the fact that in 2014 exactly what happened would not have happened if one "bloody pastor" (who is actually a deacon) laughing - Well, yes it doesn’t matter) in February 2014 it was precisely that he wouldn’t be afraid of that very blood. negative
                        PS Well, recognize the right of the "freedom-loving people of Kosovo" to "self-determination up to secession"! negative And Art. 280.1 of the Criminal Code do not forget to cancel.
                        PSS Answer to that. what are they doing in the "antifa movement" of the ROVS, people from the "People's Social Initiative" (aka "Schultz's brigade") and "a real Italian fascist" - I can't wait from you - right?
                      8. Was mammoth
                        Was mammoth 3 May 2020 22: 55 New
                        +2
                        Quote: Sniper Amateur
                        I understood correctly that we had to say to the "miners": oh what great fellows!

                        YES!
                        And, still call for accountability of the instigators of the coup. According to law. You are a future lawyer. Then then what would have happened to Ukraine.
                        Quote: Sniper Amateur
                        Well, already recognize the right of the "freedom-loving people of Kosovo" to "self-determination up to secession"!

                        Recognize the right to genocide? belay Really in the Donbass slaughtered all Ukrainians? Yes, the lawyer will come out of you!
                        Quote: Sniper Amateur
                        "People's Social Initiative"

                        "The St. Petersburg City Court banned the activities of the People’s Social Initiative organization in Russia, Dmitry Bobrov, the former leader of the Schulz-88 radical nationalist group, for extremism. The court granted the prosecutor’s claim for recognizing the organization as extremist."
                        What is wrong here?
                        PS Do they teach "ty" to strangers at Ukrainian universities?
                      9. Sniper Amateur
                        Sniper Amateur 4 May 2020 01: 47 New
                        -4
                        YES!

                        Already running. Dropping slippers on the go. bully Preservation of the territorial integrity and inviolability of Ukraine has a higher priority than the right of its citizens to life and health. As well as all other rights of citizens. Even loyal citizens. And the disloyal ones ... Higher than that of integrity and inviolability - the priority is only for the protection of sovereignty and independence. By the way, how many of your soldiers did you put in the two wars with Ichkeria? More than all the losses of the DPR and LPR, including the "wild geese" who fought for them, and other "internationalists" - no? And this is not even talking about the victims among the Chechens themselves ...
                        Recognize the right to genocide? belay

                        Well, you recognized the "right" of the Serbs to genocide the Kosovar Albanians! And what about the Kosovars, red? The elementary principle of international military law: "one belligerent cannot be held accountable for any (I emphasize - ANY, in general, any, however terrible) acts, if for these acts the other party is not brought to justice equally in comparable or greater the scale of the belligerent "- is now unknown in Russia, right?
                        "The St. Petersburg City Court has banned the activities in Russia of the People's Social Initiative organization of the former leader of the radical group of nationalists" Schultz-88 "Dmitry Bobrov for extremism, reports TASS. The court satisfied the prosecutor's claim to recognize the organization as extremist."
                        What is wrong here?

                        I asked: what are the people from the ROVS and the "Schultz brigade" doing in the "anti-fascist" people's militias "of the Donbass republics? ...
                        And why from the "glorification of the fascist Bandera, who collaborated with the Nazis," have you been shittbrizing for at least 15 years, and to the glorification of the fascist Subhas Chandra "Netaji" Bose, who collaborated with the Axis on a much larger scale, do you "react" with the silence of frozen fish? No, I understand why Indians have very green bills. And more. But all the same - it is interesting to hear your excuse.
                        PS Do they teach "ty" to strangers at Ukrainian universities?

                        I did not graduate from the Poltava Institute for Noble Maidens. Social origin - "from unmatched villagers".
                      10. Was mammoth
                        Was mammoth 4 May 2020 12: 55 New
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                        Quote: Sniper Amateur
                        I did not graduate from the Poltava Institute of Noble Maidens.

                        Wrong site. Rudeness is not welcome here.
                        You will bring much more grief and suffering to Ukraine.
                        Engage in self-education and learn history.
                      11. Sniper Amateur
                        Sniper Amateur 6 May 2020 18: 57 New
                        0
                        Yes - I noticed what a "high" culture of "communication" is. bully
                        And it is precisely that history is being taught to us now. Including those sections of it, which are called "the consequences of capitulations" and "the consequences of exchanging national interests for rations." The only bad thing is that they began to teach it very late ... If people were taught this even at least in the last decade, nothing would have gone further than Crimea. And if it had been thrown in 30 years ago, there would have been no Crimea either. Because no one would dare stupidly to fight the third nuclear power in the world.
            2. Krasnoyarsk
              Krasnoyarsk 3 May 2020 22: 53 New
              +4
              Quote: Sniper Amateur

              And we - destroyed those who raised weapons against Ukraine.

              Do you even understand what you said? Who poured this nonsense into your head? Who raised weapons against Ukraine? Donetsk or what? What nonsense!
              They raised weapons against those who, dancing to the staff of the United States, closed Russian-speaking schools, hung portraits of Bandera, destroyed monuments to Soviet soldiers-liberators. And you, the US henchmen, went to kill, under the pseudo-patriotic slogans, your brothers. West, read the story, always attacked the Slavs. And we always had to defend ourselves. Now the war is going on with the very West in the form of a civil war. But you are on the side of the west. Mankurts you.
              And do not cover up your crimes against the people of Ukraine with slogans of "defense of Ukraine". Nobody attacked Ukraine! And the fact that Crimea left you is your own fault. There was no need to spread rot on the Crimean people, there was no need to force them to speak MOV. And in general, as Crimea came to you, so it left you.
            3. Sniper Amateur
              Sniper Amateur 4 May 2020 02: 22 New
              -3
              It was not necessary to spread rot on Crimeans, it was not necessary to force them to speak a mov.

              What the hell? belay
              2. In the Autonomous Republic of Crimea, the growth of population is high in the population and is suitable for the development of a wide range of life spans.

              And in general, as Crimea came to you, so it left you.

              It is interesting - what will you say when Chechnya has come from you and will leave? The capital of the Caucasian inheritance of the general from infantry and artillery Ermolov - he, too, is not eternal .... And this was already shown in the 90s quite clearly ...
            4. Krasnoyarsk
              Krasnoyarsk 4 May 2020 09: 25 New
              +2
              Quote: Sniper Amateur

              What the hell? belay
              2. In the Autonomous Republic of Crimea, the growth of population is high in the population and is suitable for the development of a wide range of life spans.

              The first decision of the new government, which came after the unconstitutional armed coup, was precisely the abolition of the "Law on Regional Languages, an excerpt from which you quoted.
              Quote: Sniper Amateur

              It is interesting - what will you say when Chechnya has come from you and will leave? Capital of the Caucasian inheritance of the general from

              Chechnya had such an opportunity, but for some reason it chose to remain a part of Russia. Don't say by force of arms. By force of arms, you can defeat bandits, but not the people. Donbass as an example to you. You are fighting in Donbass with the people of Donbass, and not with a separate group of citizens who decided to become the head of the "nation" as it was in Chechnya. Can you catch the difference? Or does the education of "unmatched villagers" not allow?
            5. Sniper Amateur
              Sniper Amateur 6 May 2020 19: 15 New
              0
              The first decision of the new government, which came after the unconstitutional armed coup, was precisely the abolition of the "Law on Regional Languages, an excerpt from which you quoted.

              What the hell? belay
              2. In the Autonomous Republic of Crimea, the growth of population is high in the population and is suitable for the development of a wide range of life spans.

              - this is the norm of the current (still by the way) Constitution of the Autonomous Republic of Crimea as amended in 1998 - a document equated to the Constitutional Law. Which "ordinary" Law cannot change and cancel. In Ukraine, in any case, I'm not talking about the fact that the Law of Ukraine "On the Foundations of State Language Policy" became invalid only on February 28.02.2018, XNUMX.
              Damn, are you such a "expert" in weapons too? negative
              Chechnya had such an opportunity, but for some reason, it preferred to remain part of Russia. Just don’t say that by force of arms. By force of arms you can defeat the bandits, but not the people. Donbass to you as an example.

              Yes - "preferred". bully After two sieges and countless assaults on its capital and other "wonderful" things. And what is the "example" of Donbass? "invincibility"? Any nation, even the Chinese, can be defeated this way. Even if he "stands up as one" - like the Japanese in World War II. It just takes a lot of nuclear warheads for that.
      2. Victor_B
        Victor_B 4 May 2020 03: 42 New
        +2
        Quote: Sniper Amateur
        As my law faculty members say - "legal conflict"
        Based on the phrase - a student.
        Quote: Sniper Amateur
        They did not call me - I decided. And at age 16 - you can already be aware of the actions and their consequences.
        From this phrase shkolota at the front.
        Quote: Sniper Amateur
        Well, okay - I’m sure that my mother didn’t care about me, and my father was only present as sperm in my life.
        This phrase implies a very dysfunctional family, therefore with a letter should not be very, but! What syllable! What sparkling and punctuation!
        Serious journalism experience is rushing!

        In general, this is clearly an "officer's daughter" from the Odessa almshouse to promote the power of the country's fascist regime 404.
      3. Sniper Amateur
        Sniper Amateur 4 May 2020 04: 53 New
        0
        laughing I can roughly imagine what kind of "poorhouse" you are talking about. It really exists. Only not in Odessa. And in the Kiev region. smile The scouts of the "anti-fascists", "he went to Odessa - and went to Kherson." laughing I can give you the full postal address of this "poorhouse". If you are a citizen of Ukraine - even living in L / DPR, Crimea or outside the legal borders of Ukraine - you have every right to send an information request there. And even demand an answer in Russian (the "Law on Citizens' Appeals" is in effect). Although it is not a fact that they will answer of course ...
        Well, the confidence that those who passed two ZNOs, graduated from the College of Economics and Law and without two months of a bachelor's degree (pah-pah!), Volunteering in the deputy public reception - "with a diploma should not be very" just because my dear mother was - " Tear it off and throw it away "- it's just a song, what is it! laughing
        PS If I correctly remember the information that I viewed when registering here - VO does the geolocation. So - in my right mind, solid memory, almost sober, not suffering from underestimation and even not smoking - I allow the VO Administration to post urbi et orbi (yes, and in Latin I also took a course - like any lawyer) the data of my geolocation.
      4. Victor_B
        Victor_B 4 May 2020 05: 38 New
        +2
        No, by golly You are a very sensible, fit enemy! It’s not a shame to engage in such a debate.
        For the syllable and argumentation from me +.
        Here the German soldier, as a warrior, was worthy of respect, but as a Nazi / fascist / occupier / marauder / rapist / punisher was a human degenerate.
        As for the SS, it’s even worse there.
        So you have stubborn Natsik from the National Bats, and there is APU on appeal.
        In the information war there are two information fields.
        Each of them carries true and false information / misinformation.
        It is simply impossible to exist simultaneously in two.
        If I look at your inf. clearing which for internal use, I experience a powerful vomiting reflex! How all is primitive and dirty!
        If you look inf. clearing DNI / LC then everything is much more believable there. Especially considering that I am a fan of this team.
        Still there is inf. field of Russian media.
        They scored several Ukrainian patriotic clowns as whipping boys, but they fully convey the opinion of official and Nazi circles. Constantly, persistently and consistently. And they are heard.
        Why not invite our iksperd clowns to Ukrainian talk shows?
        So that they also convey what is needed.
        The fact that you are directly related to 83rd Center of IPSO Special Operations Forces APU very likely, but about the geolocation needed, it's my sneakers laugh. They will bear without laughter.
        Well, when working on other Internet resources, our dear "officer's daughter" on behalf of the girl / boy who has gone through the war, try to show less intelligence.
        And then it is really smart and educated not by age.
      5. Sniper Amateur
        Sniper Amateur 4 May 2020 06: 29 New
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        No, by golly You are a very sensible, fit enemy! For the syllable and argumentation from me +.

        Well thanks, dear! love
        I am not without a bit of vanity - that is a sin to conceal. smile
        But there are still a couple of comments.
        The fact that you are directly related to the 83rd Center of IPSO is very likely

        What made you so overwhelmed at the mythical 83rd IPSO Center in Odessa? If you consider me an "officer's daughter" laughing - then my proposal to "ascribe" me to a completely real existing (and its existence is openly and officially recognized) 72nd Center in Brovary - should, logically, add me to the "anti-karma". laughing
        it’s really smart and educated not by age.

        I guess I'm indelicate smile I will ask a question - but how old are you? I think a lot. Because, as far as I know from the stories of my guys (and two out of three men with whom I am now in a permanent relationship are much older than me), and our "grandfathers" in the Corps - the idea that at 22 a girl should be with brains "kolgosp-PTU" practically died out at the end of the Union. smile So - your views on female brains should have been formed somewhere at the latest in the 1970s - am I right?
        Well, and the "plausible info. Glade of the DPR / LPR" ... What I keep track of out of habit is what is presented as "reports and intelligence reports of the LPR / DPR" - and this is PACTAL! They really can't tell the difference between a sniper rifle and a sports rifle, even with the help of Google? And they don't understand that mountain infantry and paratroopers cannot have regular tank units? Or is all this slapped on the principle of "come down - chew, eat!"?
        And one more thing: an unspoken, but strict ban on the publication of materials of this structure under pain of extremely serious troubles: https://www.osce.org/ru/special-monitoring-mission-to-ukraine - exists both in Ukraine and in L / DNR, and in the Russian Federation. Moreover, this is the case when even the media, positioning themselves as sharply opposed to both the "Kiev" junta "and the" Putin regime ", do not dare to violate the ban.
        That’s why there would be such touching unanimity of those who are not even ready to put a bunch on one hectare, eh? smile Are there any versions? smile
      6. Victor_B
        Victor_B 4 May 2020 06: 39 New
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        I’m probably going to ask an indelicate question - but how old are you?

        This year 70 will hit.
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        the idea that at 22 a girl should be with brains "kolgosp-PTU"

        I will disappoint you, but I do not quite think so, but at 22, the world does not look what it really is. After all, I was also 22 and such clever speeches then I was hardly supplied.
        The world is ruled by men (almost all) over the age of forty. And it will always be created by men over forty!
        Women politicians, businesswomen, etc. in fact men too, without any suckers on my part.
        at the mythical 83rd IPSO Center in Odessa? If you consider me an "officer's daughter" laughing - then my proposal to "attribute" me to a completely real (and its existence is openly and officially recognized) 72nd Center in Brovary
        This means that there is more than one such "institution".
        I do not understand the varieties of your garbage bins.
      7. Sniper Amateur
        Sniper Amateur 4 May 2020 07: 05 New
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        The world is ruled by men (almost all) over the age of forty. And it will always be created by men over forty!

        smile The cult figure of your imperial period - Mother of the Fatherland Catherine II the Great - what time did she ascend the throne? In 33?
        And the future Emperor of the French Napoleon I - when did he receive the epaulettes of the foreman? At 24?
        PS Not - with cuckoo everything is fine with me - for now, at least. I myself in Catherine and Napoleon are not a candidate nirazu. laughing
        So there is more than one such "institution"

        Meaning? The most powerful of the powerful States - cost one of their famous PsiOps. She's a big truth .- somewhere like our full-blown mech brigade. But - one.
      8. Victor_B
        Victor_B 4 May 2020 07: 35 New
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        The cult figure of your imperial period - Mother of the Fatherland Catherine II the Great - what time did she ascend the throne?

        So she is a typical man in a skirt!
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        And the future Emperor of the French Napoleon I - when did he receive the epaulettes of the foreman? At 24?

        Believe me, oh, not all politicians and military leaders of a genius!
        And the exception only confirms the rule.
        Therefore, 99 with hell knows how much in the period of decisions that influenced the life of the planet / state / city / district / garage cooperative not even very smart people took it. And most peasants.
      9. Sniper Amateur
        Sniper Amateur 6 May 2020 19: 38 New
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        So she is a typical man in a skirt!

        This amorous as a schoolgirl, and gasping for everyone and everything in a row sexodrome - was "a typical man in a skirt" ?? Wow !!
        Believe me, oh, not all politicians and military leaders of a genius!

        I guess. laughing Just look at the Presidents of Ukraine. Or the presidents of Russia. Or the first secretaries of the Politburo of the CPSU. Among all of them, obviously, no one is overloaded with the excessive contents of the skull.
        Therefore, 99 with hell knows how much in the period of decisions that influenced the life of the planet / state / city / district / garage cooperative not even very smart people took it. And most peasants.

        That "not very smart" - I agree. And about "in the majority of men" - already beginning to become obsolete infa. In our bath, the chief of the Security Council was a friend of Katerino, for example. And even the battalion commander was afraid of her. And so - in baht the girls were about every tenth. And half of them are far from doctors and signalmen. Among the separatists in the 1st Army, the percentage of women before the fall was perhaps even higher. Well, in Syria - in general, whole sheer maiden bats and even brigades are fighting. Moreover, both on the side of the Assad and on the side of the free Syrians. And they are considered one of the most efficient.
  2. Victor_B
    Victor_B 4 May 2020 05: 51 New
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    I can roughly imagine what kind of "poorhouse" you are talking about

    I do not recall when I drank with you not Brudershaft.
    Careful need to attract sympathy.
    (To cause sympathy in the interlocutor for himself is one of the necessary methods of inf. War)
  3. Sniper Amateur
    Sniper Amateur 4 May 2020 07: 11 New
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    Well I'm not a $ 20 bill! smile
    Yes, and I would have to completely not be friends with my head in order to expect that having designated my track record - I can arouse sympathy here (except for the sympathies of those to whom I will be pretty).
  4. Mordvin 3
    Mordvin 3 4 May 2020 07: 15 New
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    I'm not a $ 20 bill!

    Do you rate yourself cheaply?
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    The cult figure of your imperial period - Mother of the Fatherland Catherine II the Great

    Ours. The blacksmith of Vakula, I remember, she begged the beggings for Oksanka.
  5. Sniper Amateur
    Sniper Amateur 6 May 2020 18: 40 New
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    Do you rate yourself cheaply?

    No, not cheap. I am much more expensive. Not sure if you have enough money. tongue And this is just an American saying that appeared back in those immemorial times, when 20 greens were pretty solid money (about like kilobax in Ukraine now).
    The blacksmith of Vakula, I remember, she begged the beggings for Oksanka

    Well - taking into account that Gogol was not only a Level 80 Genius. but Level 80 Kholuy - such jokes in the plot are not surprising at all ...
  6. Victor_B
    Victor_B 4 May 2020 07: 37 New
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    Well I'm not a $ 20 bill!

    You are a pro in the information war.
    In the end, read carefully your job description!
    And then the prize will be deprived!
  7. Sniper Amateur
    Sniper Amateur 6 May 2020 18: 44 New
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    Both times, when I was officially introduced to officials, it was done orally. And the prize for May 8th - I will receive in any case. tongue Our deputy is not that generous. but also not a miser. + And Chef also gives gifts.
  8. Krasnoyarsk
    Krasnoyarsk 3 May 2020 22: 01 New
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    not all sorts of "bloggers" - HZ) drive the rioters under the shkonar. And we also had and have the right to do so. What is offended by anyone?

    And you, madam, at least once asked yourself a question - why did they rebel? Just? From not to hell to do? With what fright did you decide that Donetsk residents are OBLIGED to speak in Mov? Who are you to them? The God? King? No, just - an empty space! Exactly the same as those who canceled the "Law on Regional Languages". You, madam, have never thought that you are violating the constitution itself. Well, what am I talking about? And to whom? The one who decided to kill some of its citizens in order to drive them into the stall. But it turned out that she herself was in the stall. They told you to speak MOV, - she spoke, said - go kill, - went to kill. They will say to speak "English", you will speak "English" and all this accompanied by patriotic speeches. What kind of patriot are you if you obey the Jews who seized power in Ukraine? Foreign ministers. What can I say to you? You won't understand anything anyway. You’ll understand, but later.
  9. Was mammoth
    Was mammoth 3 May 2020 22: 19 New
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    You’ll understand, but later

    You do not understand this. A true patriot of Ukraine must renounce his history, renounce his language (it seems that the official Ukrainian language is "crawling" from Poltava Mova to Galicia, renounce the Russian language, renounce his faith, changing it to Uniate. And of course, recognize Bandera and King Danilo of Ukraine To seal your oath with the blood of innocent people.
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  11. Sniper Amateur
    Sniper Amateur 3 May 2020 23: 53 New
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    CHSH, the only known to me our front-line unit, where the real working language of "Mova" is the Nezhinsky consolidated terbat. Better known as the OUN baht. And in the International Peacekeeping Office (damn it - cast in granite for history forever! - no one expected that Caucasians would turn out to be such cool trolls! laughing) battalion named after General Dzhokhar Dudayev - on the "move" no one at all "not in the teeth - not with a foot or a poker." "Do you want the soldier not to understand the order? Order in Ukrainian!" - one of the favorite jokes of the "regulars". But in the headquarters from the brigade and above - there "dyysno balakayut on the solov" їny "- yes.
    But all this is fun, albeit from life. But in a serious way: I (like almost all the rest of us - politicians and journalists do not count) of course understand that for Donetsk and Lugansk - we may well be for an empty place. That they can have (and always have) their views and interests and all that. But if we are "empty space" for them - why should they themselves be perceived by us differently? What a fig of a hangover-hemp? Still, at the front I got the opinion that the Donbass people are natural "dill" at heart. laughing In the sense that they profess our national (only slightly revised) "And what for us ?!":
    "Let's kill the Ukronazis in the toilet !? Let's! Only ... And if they start killing us themselves? They have no right to kill innocent people! Only innocent people have the right to kill the Ukronazis!" laughing It's funny that even many of them understand the absurdity of the expectation that “the enemy will be“ feeding sweets. ”And they willingly tell this anecdote among themselves (when political officers and MGB officers don't hear - and sometimes they don't even feel shy about them).

    I would like to know - who can ORDER me to "speak mov"? And who could ORDER me "go kill"? Am I a robot? That homo sapiens is a predator and can kill without any external motivation - you do not know, do you? Well ... I shouldn't have skipped biology at school. smile
    And the Jews ... It’s not that I had tender maternal feelings for them - I’m not Yiddish mama at all
    laughing - but after all, more than 70% of the people voted for Ze. Yes, it says something. Well, for the sake of sports interest, you can look at the "fifth column" of many comrades from the "inner circle" of one president of one "great power." So whose cow would ...
    I would have understood, if some Chinese reproached us for "puppetry". But when this is done by representatives of a country under the undivided power of "the comprador criminal-oligarchic capital pursuing a consistently anti-national and anti-national policy" (to use the terms of the commies) - it looks funny, don't you think?
  12. Krasnoyarsk
    Krasnoyarsk 4 May 2020 11: 02 New
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    CHSH, the only known to me our front-line unit, where the real working language of "Mova" is the Nezhinsky consolidated terbat.

    Madame, the awareness with which you shine here, and intelligence are somewhat different concepts.
    There are many ways to ban and enforce. You can be rude, but you can sophisticated. In Ukraine, there is no direct ban on the use of the Russian language in everyday life, but, for example, the seller was fired from her job because she talked with the buyer in Russian. Only. Teachers are prohibited from communicating in Russian at school. Only. But, as a result, this will lead to the fact that the Russian language, and. Of course, Russians, as native speakers, will disappear from the territory of Ukraine. This is violent assimilation. Pay attention - in Mordor, that is, in Russia, no one has ever banned schools with a national language of instruction. But with your intellect this is not understood. You, madam, do not even think about it. Because the entire volume of your brain is occupied by one thing - they attacked Ukraine! And who attacked, why attacked, why attacked, these questions do not even arise for you. You have no concept of causation.
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    there "dіysno balakayut on the solov" їiny "- yes.

    If it comes to that, then - rosemary, and not messing around. Balakayut on the Don, if my memory serves me.
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    But if we are "empty space" for them - why should they themselves be perceived by us differently?

    Absolutely right! But you do not continue this logical thought, but break off in the middle. And if you continue, then - an empty place, it is - an empty place, and no actions, either verbal, or written, or any physical influences at this address, as it turned out, except for you, take. Forget about them, how they want to forget about your existence.
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    Still, at the front I got the opinion that the Donbass people are natural "dill" at heart. laughing In that

    Everyone sees what he wants to see. So, do not entertain yourself with illusions. When they evaporate, it will be very painful and you, of course, will avenge your pain innocent.
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    "And let's dunk the Ukronazis in the toilet !? Let's! Just ...

    Think primitively. Well, why be surprised.
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    Am I a robot?

    Of course not. You are a simple, primitive Zombie.
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    What homo sapiens - a predator and can kill without any external impulse - is unknown to you, no?

    No, it is not known. Unmotivated killing happens only in American primitive films. In life, everything is different. Again forced to remind - a causal relationship, plus - who benefits? Here is what you should build on in your thoughts. Learn to pose questions correctly and look for the right answer.
    This is actually called logic.
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    but after all, more than 70% of the people voted for Ze.

    So ask yourself the question - why did they vote for him? For what are his promises, without thinking about the rest, they chose him? Is it not for the promised peace in the Donbass?
    For him! But you are afraid to admit it to yourself! Fear of admitting that you were wrong, fear of realizing that you were killing people for nothing to swallow you for the rest of your life. And you either sniff or break in, with the famous ending.
    True, this will happen if you still have at least some rudiments of conscience.
  13. Sniper Amateur
    Sniper Amateur 6 May 2020 20: 55 New
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    There are many ways to ban and enforce. You can rude, but you can sophisticated.

    Does anyone argue with this? This is a common place told in the first year of college.
    In Ukraine, there is no direct ban on the use of the Russian language in everyday life, but, for example, the seller was fired from her job because she talked with the buyer in Russian.

    I’ll surprise you, but in the corporate rules of all the more or less significant retail chains in Ukraine it has been written 100500 years ago that the seller (cashier, consultant, etc.) MUST communicate in Ukrainian or Russian depending on the wishes of the client (expressed in a direct request or the fact of that. what language the client begins to communicate in). Moreover: there are entire territories where a prerequisite for hiring even in a micromini market is to be fluent in Polish at the top level in terms of work. Or - Hungarian. Or - Romanian. And in Kiev - there is a brewery from which a waitress who did not answer you in Irish, if you speak to her in this language - will be kicked out of work without waiting for the end of her shift. And the staff of this pub - they sign that they will not make claims if they suffer in a fight. Because on some days, the institution is officially allowed to fight wall to wall.
    Teachers are prohibited from communicating in Russian at school.

    But this is just a simple lie.
    as a result, this will lead to the fact that the Russian language, and. Of course, Russians, as native speakers, will disappear from the territory of Ukraine.

    Kurds - pressed very specifically. Over the centuries. Why haven’t they disappeared?
    the whole volume of your brain is occupied by one - they attacked Ukraine! And who attacked, why attacked, why attacked, these questions do not even arise for you.

    No, they do not arise. When someone attacks me, I first hit the burr, and only then I figure out - if necessary - with everything else. And so from preschool age. When a minibattery hits your position, you first plug it with "cornflowers" - and therefore already understand (if there is a desire) in "complex cause-and-effect relationships." And nothing else.
    If it comes to that, then - rosemary, and not messing around. Balakayut on the Don, if my memory serves me.

    "balachka" are cubanoids. And in the "Ukrainian Ukrainian" - rozmovlyati and balacati - equal forms. True "balacati" is usually really often used in the meaning of "chatting", leading an easy one. non-binding conversation.
    Forget about them, how they want to forget about your existence.

    They didn’t fall for us. We need only our land.
    do not entertain yourself with illusions. When they evaporate, it will be very painful and you, of course, will avenge your pain innocent.

    Revenge is a dish served cold and carefully prepared.

    The only time in my life so far when I was given the task of revenge - I acted that way. I won that sniper duel (from that side, by the way, it was also a girl - and it seems even up to 18). I think that in the heat of the moment I will not rush at anyone with the "brazen pattern" either.
    You are a simple, primitive Zombie.

    Yes of course. I'm stoned. Exterminating innocent pink ponies. "Just something" who wanted to chop off from my country about half of its territory.
    Unmotivated killing happens only in American primitive films. In life, everything is different. Again forced to remind - a causal relationship,

    And I "have to remind" that it was not about "not motivated by anything", but "without any external motivation." Can you catch the difference? L - Logic.
    plus - who benefits?

    I advise you to read a lecture somewhere - "the limitation of Roman views on law and justice." That any act may be committed not by his "main beneficiary", but by a completely different person is well known in modern forensic science. As well as the fact that "equal level beneficiaries" - may be several individuals or groups. Including unrelated and even hostile among themselves.
    in Mordor, that is, in Russia, no one has ever banned schools with a national language of instruction
    .
    How many non-Ukrainian schools in Russia. but just schools where the Ukrainian language is studied? At least one for every 100 thousand Ukrainians of school age living in the Russian Federation - is typed? bully
    So ask yourself the question - why did they vote for him? For what are his promises, without thinking about the rest, they chose him? Is it not for the promised peace in the Donbass?
    For him! But you are afraid to admit it to yourself!

    Not afraid. Because the main (and by a wide margin) expectation from Ze was a significant reduction in tariffs for the housing and communal services. But they also want peace. But most are completely not on "any terms". The "republics" also want peace. And even strong. But not at all at the cost of reintegration into Ukraine. Than such peace - they are better at war. And for us - than losing territory - war is better. The usual conflict of interest. It happens.
    Fear of admitting that you were wrong, fear of realizing that you were killing people for nothing to swallow you for the rest of your life.

    Nifiga does not "gnaw" me. To the best of my ability, I destroyed those who dared to raise weapons against my country, my friends and girlfriends and myself. If they didn't want to catch a bullet, they just didn't have to.
    And you either sniff or break in, with the famous ending.
    True, this will happen if you still have at least some rudiments of conscience.

    As our company commander liked to say: "Our Honor is the Virnist!"
    And I love alcohol since I was 13. That's why she was listed in baht as a friend of "Boatswain". laughing
  14. Krasnoyarsk
    Krasnoyarsk 6 May 2020 23: 32 New
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    I’ll surprise you, but in the corporate rules of all the more or less significant retail chains in Ukraine it has been written 100500 years ago that the seller (cashier, consultant, etc.) MUST communicate in Ukrainian or Russian depending on the wishes of the client (expressed in a direct request or the fact of that.

    You did not surprise me. You made me laugh. If in Ukraine they didn’t give a damn about the constitution, laws, then you are telling us what rules you are following. Do not confuse your corporate gang concepts with the law.
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    But this is just a simple lie.

    My mother taught me to tell the truth since childhood. Ask yourself - why should he lie to me? I have no motive. My dialogue with you is a simple interest in a character like you. And this interest in the study. No more.
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    Kurds - pressed very specifically. Over the centuries. Why haven’t they disappeared?

    They have nowhere to go.
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    When someone attacks me

    Well, enough time has passed since the "attack". You heroically destroyed 3-7 (choose the number yourself) divisions of armored cavalry Buryats.
    Now you can think about it - who attacked and ... did you attack?
    Just do not start chants about the supply of weapons to LDNR. I do not deny it. Moreover, I believe that we have the right to supply weapons where we see fit. And we always supply weapons to the defending side if there is a conflict.
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    "Just something" who wanted to chop off from my country about half of its territory.

    Who wanted to "chop off"? Residents of Donetsk and Lugansk regions? Why should they chop off what already belongs to them?
    Why did you decide that Donbass is your land? This is the land of those who live and work on it.
    And they did not come with weapons to your house. It was you who came to their house with weapons.
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    "without any external motivation"

    And again a mistake. There is such a concept of NLP. It can't be that you lived, lived and suddenly grabbed a "ruzhzho" and ran to kill people, your fellow citizens of yesterday. You were motivated to do this through NLP. And NLP is not logic, it is science. And you are her guinea pig, or a rat. Choose yourself.
  15. Sniper Amateur
    Sniper Amateur 7 May 2020 01: 09 New
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    You did not surprise me. You made me laugh. If in Ukraine they didn’t give a damn about the constitution, laws, then you are telling us what rules you are following. Do not confuse your corporate gang concepts with the law.

    Laugh on. And try to get a job somewhere and score on corporate rules. Better - rude and defiant. laughing You will fly out - instantly. And with a wolf ticket. And then - I will laugh with pleasure with you together. A senior manager is not a "constitution" of some kind. It's close, real and concrete. Very specific. In "respecting the constitution of Russia" - the same thing. And I'm sure you know that very well.
    My mother taught me to tell the truth since childhood. Ask yourself - why should he lie to me? I have no motive. My dialogue with you is a simple interest in a character like you. And this interest in the study. No more.

    Or vice versa - taught to lie when it is profitable. 50 to 50%. Why are you lying to me? Yes 100500 reasons! I can voice the first ten - if you really want to.
    They have nowhere to go.

    As it is - "nowhere". And emigrate? Will it dissolve in most of the countries between which Kurdistan is divided? But neither one nor the other happened. Although five years ago in Turkey for a simple conversation in Kurdish on the street - you could almost have a dozen. So tell your tales about "the disappearance of the people due to the" lack of schools with teaching in its language "- to students at vocational schools with a degree in" vegetable grower "in a mining village.
    Well, enough time has passed since the "attack". You heroically destroyed 3-7 (choose the number yourself) divisions of armored cavalry Buryats.
    Now you can think about it - who attacked and ... did you attack?
    Just do not start chants about the supply of weapons to LDNR. I do not deny it. Moreover, I believe that we have the right to supply weapons where we see fit. And we always supply weapons to the defending side if there is a conflict.

    That's what i very very it’s a pity, that Ukraine did not take advantage of this classically indestructible casus belli in the form of the divisions practically open to your military assistance — and did not begin to act in relation to Russia accordingly — and to the maximum extent possible and most decisively.
    there was only one "division". "miner's" so-called. A blown up soap bubble. "Whole" two baht for 2/3 not from the miners. Our company did not come across it - but I know the reviews. And they are short. The DPR army had really strong (and even very strong) units, but all these "miners", the seas are deeper than a shallow puddle on a side street in a shabby "village, three yards - and even then counting the barn" not seen "marines and others "Cossacks" - this (according to the local rules it is impossible to explain - who is this? - therefore I will eloquently shut up). Well, I didn't see any Buryats there either. Maybe - she just couldn't tell. laughing Slavs, Caucasians, several people. - Jews - all this is natural to the eye, at least. But there were tanks. In tch and companies and whole bats. Including those varieties that our "regulars" did not have then.
    Who wanted to "chop off"? Residents of Donetsk and Lugansk regions? Why should they chop off what already belongs to them?
    Why did you decide that Donbass is your land? This is the land of those who live and work on it.
    And they did not come with weapons to your house. It was you who came to their house with weapons.

    The only land to which anyone is entitled is a two-square plot with a volume of 3 cubes. Here in this right - I really can’t refuse anyone. laughing
    And if without black toothache, the general order of priority of land rights is as follows: a territorial community takes precedence over individuals and private legal entities, ATU over a community, and the State over ATU. Point. Whoever disagrees, let him fight. And he won’t be offended if, following the results of this struggle, he will be allocated the same three cubes on two squares for eternal use ...
    And again a mistake. There is such a concept of NLP. It can't be that you lived, lived and suddenly grabbed a "ruzhzho" and ran to kill people, your fellow citizens of yesterday. You were motivated to do this through NLP. And NLP is not logic, it is science.

    Neuro-linguistic programming (NLP, from the English. Neuro-linguistic programming) - pseudoscientific approach to interpersonal communication, personality development and psychotherapy.
    There is no scientific evidence in favor of the effectiveness of NLP; it is recognized as pseudoscience. Systematic reviews indicate that NLP is based on outdated ideas about the structure of the brain, is incompatible with modern neurology and contains a number of factual errors. The characteristic pseudoscientific terminology used in NLP is noted.

    Peacocks Do you speak science? bully
    And you are her experimental rabbit, or rat. Choose it yourself.

    What am I to tear up? - I'm smart and beautiful! laughing Not, if you still choose - the rat of course! No options! Smart, understanding, able to be completely devoted, and if necessary - a desperately brave animal. I had tame rats. After his death, I could not have another.
  16. Victor_B
    Victor_B 7 May 2020 09: 28 New
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    My dialogue with you is a simple interest in a character like you. And this interest in the study.

    VERY funny little animal!
    But with sharp teeth.
  17. Krasnoyarsk
    Krasnoyarsk 7 May 2020 00: 07 New
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    How many non-Ukrainian schools in Russia. but just schools where the Ukrainian language is studied? At least one for every 100 thousand Ukrainians of school age living in the Russian Federation - is typed?

    And you asked the Ukrainians living in Russia, did they demand that their children be taught mov? Now, when you present me with evidence that they demanded and were refused, then we’ll talk.
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    But they also want peace. But the majority - not at all on "any terms".

    Did you count? Or again NLP?
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    That any act may be committed not by his "main beneficiary", but by a completely different person

    So what did I tell you? The United West, fulfilling its thousand-year plan to destroy the most rebellious people, first split it into three states, and now it has set one state against another. Ukraine to Russia. And now he is conducting a fratricidal war with your hands. But you cannot understand this because of the limitations of your mind. And do not revel in the hope that if you graduate from a university, you will be literate. The education system in Ukraine, as well as in Russia, by the way, is structured in such a way that even after receiving 3 diplomas, you will not have broad knowledge. Only a narrow specialization that does not make it possible to understand - what is happening around?
    You don’t understand. They told you - they attacked, you did not hesitate to believe. They told you - they want to chop off - the same thing. There is no time to think, you need to shoot faster.
    Quote: Sniper Amateur

    To the extent of my small capabilities, I destroyed those who dared to raise weapons against my country, my friends and girlfriends. If they did not want to catch a bullet, they simply did not have to do it.

    The trouble is that you are afraid to know the truth. And the truth is that the first dead was a resident of Mariupol killed by your "brothers-in-arms", then there were the police officers of Mariupol killed in Mariupol by your "brothers-in-arms" right in the building of the police station. For refusing to disperse the demonstration of city residents on May 9, 2014.
    So who was the first to raise a weapon? Google to help you.
  18. Sniper Amateur
    Sniper Amateur 7 May 2020 02: 50 New
    -2
    And you asked the Ukrainians living in Russia, did they demand that their children be taught mov? Now, when you present me with evidence that they demanded and were refused, then we’ll talk.

    Logic included - not? According to your official data: during the 2010 census, there were almost 670 Russian citizens who consider themselves Ukrainians and, at the same time, native speakers of the Ukrainian language. At the same time, in several "subjects of the federation", the share of such Ukrainians in the population was 5 % and more, and in one (Yamalo-Nenets Okrug) - and generally all 10%. And you want to tell me that even if 1/10 of them did not turn out to be what you call "Svidomites" (at least in terms of language and culture)? Ha! Rzhu nimagu! wassat
    Did you count? Or again NLP?

    About "NLP" - I already gave you a quote. And yes - polls in the PM and on the topic of ways to tackle the war - we do not, of course, do it strictly on schedule - but almost regularly. Several competing sociological services of a national scale that are oriented towards different political forces. Google to the rescue. wink
    The United West, fulfilling its thousand-year plan to destroy the most rebellious people, first split it into three states, and now it has set one state against another. Ukraine to Russia.

    If the "United West" set itself the task of "inciting Ukraine against Russia" - Ukraine would now speak to you in a completely different language. The language of a country capable of throwing cards on the table in the form of 6 tanks and 2 fighters and bombers. And another 4 thousand nuclear bombs, "fifty Hiroshims" in each to a pile (a considerable part - on missiles capable of flying right up to Kamchatka). That would be a show in a thrill cleaner than a drape under alcohol, followed by sex! good
    You don’t understand. They told you - they attacked, you did not hesitate to believe. They told you - they want to chop off - the same thing. There is no time to think, you need to shoot faster.

    You know, I finished school even before decommunization. Therefore, they told me something about one Russian German with the pseudo-Lenin in the world history lessons. And I am aware that when Russian men and women rebelled against his policy (yes, so much so that - not like the current Donbass - crowds with only pitchforks, scythes and axes went straight to the dagger machine-gun fire - and often it was not possible to stop them: the cartridges were stupid ended - and they stepped over the piles of their corpses and walked until they burst into the position of the Reds and cut out all the nafig) - Comrade "Lenin" simultaneously and the NEP introduced and sent new elite troops to the Tambov region. With armored vehicles, with shells for heavy guns, stuffed with chloropicrinch. And with the right to make decimation in rebellious villages. When the open revolt has already begun - you can not pacify it with some goodies. This will be perceived as weakness and will only get worse. It is necessary to beat in burdock. With all the dope. And - if necessary - in parallel and issue buns too.
    the truth is that the first person killed was a resident of Mariupol killed by your "brothers-in-arms", then there were the police officers of Mariupol killed in Mariupol by your "brothers-in-arms" right in the building of the police station. For refusing to disperse the demonstration of city residents on May 9, 2014.
    So who was the first to raise a weapon? Google to help you.

    Yes-ah? What nafig, "the first killed on May 9"? By that time, the ATO had officially started for a month and the battles for Slavyansk had been going on for more than half a month. And already the first front-line division of the Corps fought. AND The first dead in the war is known: Sergei Kokurin, father of two children, 36 years old, warrant officer of the AFU coastal service, was killed on March 18, 2014 during the assault on the 13th Navy Photogrammetric Information Center in Simferopol (IMHO, the head of the center should then be demoted to soldiers and put under military court - in in this situation, he had to give his own order to destroy the attackers, without waiting for additional orders from the command - and even contrary to such orders, if necessary). Google to help you!
  19. Victor_B
    Victor_B 7 May 2020 09: 36 New
    0
    Quote: Sniper Amateur
    When the open revolt has already begun - you can not pacify it with some goodies. This will be perceived as weakness and will only get worse. It is necessary to beat in burdock. With all the dope.

    So Bandera by this method is correctly multiplied by zero?
  20. Sniper Amateur
    Sniper Amateur 9 May 2020 10: 35 New
    0
    So Bandera by this method is correctly multiplied by zero?

    From the point of view of the objective interests of the regime of the Bolsheviks and Russians and Jews - yes absolutely correctly "Bandera" multiplied by zero. "
  21. Krasnoyarsk
    Krasnoyarsk 7 May 2020 11: 28 New
    0
    Quote: Sniper Amateur

    Logic included - not? According to your official data: during the 2010 census, there were almost 670 Russian citizens who consider themselves Ukrainians and, at the same time, native speakers of the Ukrainian language. At the same time, in several "subjects of the federation", the share of such Ukrainians in the population was 5 % and more, and in one (Yamalo-Nenets Okrug) - and generally all 10%. And you to me

    Yes, rye, for God's sake, but in the interval between neighing, answer the question posed - did they require the study of Mova for their children? And they were refused?
    Quote: Sniper Amateur

    If the "United West" set itself the task of "inciting Ukraine against Russia" - Ukraine would now speak to you in a completely different language.

    Just right to remember Krylov's grandfather - "Oh, Pug, to know she is strong ..."
    Quote: Sniper Amateur
    The language of a country capable of throwing cards on the table in the form of 6 tanks and 2 fighters and bombers. And another 4 thousand nuclear bombs, "fifty Hiroshima" in each up to a heap (a considerable part - on missiles capable of flying

    Something I did not understand - are you talking about the APU? lol
    Quote: Sniper Amateur
    nevertheless told stories something. And I am aware that when Russian men and women rebelled against his policy (so much so that - not like the Donbass current - with crowds with only pitchforks, scythes and axes, they went directly to dagger machine-gun fire - and often failed to stop them:

    wassat lol laughing This thriller is written according to all the rules of Hollywood by "historians" who received grants from mattress makers. We know that. As well as the fact that Christ is Ukrainian and the German language is a derivative of Ukrainian. We know, read and did not know whether to cry (from the squalor of the authors) or laugh.
    Quote: Sniper Amateur
    By then, the ATO

    In-in, ATO. Well, show me at least one terrorist attack committed by the Dniester.
    They told you-the terrorists and you with a joyful howl picked up, as always without thinking.
    At this point I propose to end our conversation. Your psychological portrait became clear to me. Alas, it is no different from the portrait of the "Cossack Gavrilyuk". The difference in education. But, as you probably understand, education is not intelligence.
  22. Sniper Amateur
    Sniper Amateur 9 May 2020 11: 41 New
    0
    Just right to remember Krylov's grandfather - "Oh, Pug, to know she is strong ..."

    In real life, put you on your knees - maybe even just one person. Only for this he must be very rich, want it very much and be ready for the sake of his desire to take a big risk and spend a lot. Do you really think that if a gigabax is rolled out behind the head of your "president and supreme commander", say, this head will not be brought to the customer on a silver platter within six months? laughing
    Something I did not understand - are you talking about the APU? lol

    Damn it, don’t be dumb. It seems that once you answer here, it’s not blocked on the Web. How much did the APU have when they were created in December 1991. - you can google easily.
    wassat lol laughing This thriller is written according to all the rules of Hollywood by "historians" who received grants from mattress mats. We know that.

    Well - you and the fact that "ukronazistov" with the help of NLP zombified "-" you know. " laughing The level of "knowledge" is clear - the bottom of the bottom of the bottom. Documents of that time from Russian statearchives - to refute or at least make them doubt - can you?
    In-in, ATO. Well, show me at least one terrorist attack committed by the Dniester.
    They told you-the terrorists and you with a joyful howl picked up, as always without thinking.

    I deeply violet, terrorists LDNRovtsy, or not. The operation was named as it was more advantageous in terms of politics and the information war. I knew only two things - that we had to crush them mercilessly and that even if it didn’t work out, we had to make them pay such a price that supporters of any KhNR from the UPR would no longer want to follow the "example of Donbass." And the second was completely by the way. good Well, such a small trifle that 9 people. it is certain that they will never and under any circumstances raise weapons against Ukraine - I am also pleased.
    I understood your psychological portrait.

    I'm glad.
    Alas, it is no different from the portrait of the "Cossack Gavrilyuk".

    I have never had anything to do with pugs and will never have. "a chicken is not a bird, garbage is not a man."
  23. Sniper Amateur
    Sniper Amateur 9 May 2020 14: 32 New
    0
    Yes, rye, for God's sake, but in the interval between neighing, answer the question posed - did they require the study of Mova for their children? And they were refused?

    Of course I laugh. You have a "sovereign" democracy ", what for is MOV with it? laughing
    "And here we have real freedom! Everyone can publicly call the President of the United States a fool and even a fascist! Just think! We have no less freedom! We, too, can call the President of the United States - both a fool and a fascist!"
  24. Krasnoyarsk
    Krasnoyarsk 4 May 2020 09: 07 New
    0
    Quote: Sniper Amateur
    I have only one question here: well, why then did Donetsk and Lugansk rebel?

    The question is posed incorrectly. Why not, but WHY? Those. for what reason? And the reason is simple - they wanted to forcibly assimilate them! The closure of Russian-language schools is assimilation.
  25. Sniper Amateur
    Sniper Amateur 6 May 2020 21: 02 New
    -1
    they wanted to forcibly assimilate! The closure of Russian-language schools is assimilation.

    The law of Ukraine, known as the "Law on" regional languages ​​"- was canceled on 28.02.2018d. Remind me how much years before this riots began in the East and South?
    And everything is correct - if you start fighting for something - be ready to suffer in this fight. This is the rule of such a cool game of one - Life is a game called. (it's about "why and why")
  • Was mammoth
    Was mammoth 4 May 2020 00: 14 New
    +4
    Quote: Sniper Amateur
    They did not call me - I decided. And at age 16 - you can already be aware of the actions and their consequences.

    It never occurred to you why they answer you? And not rude? And, even the site administration does not delete your comments?
    Very simple. To defend the Motherland is a holy cause, to kill those who disagree is a crime.
    At 16, you can do a lot of stupid things. But, you can try and fix them. You have a chance.
    1. Sniper Amateur
      Sniper Amateur 4 May 2020 01: 54 New
      -2
      To defend the Motherland is a holy cause, to kill those who disagree is a crime.

      And what to do with those who disagree and encroach on your homeland?
      PS I was 16 years old in 2014. Now - I am already old and no one will marry me. smile
  • Victor_B
    Victor_B 4 May 2020 03: 27 New
    +1
    Quote: Sniper Amateur
    And at 16 - it’s already possible give yourself
    Grandfather Freud applauds!
    Here, in fact, are your responsibilities.
    No, this is a respected profession (among men) in the army!
    1. Sniper Amateur
      Sniper Amateur 4 May 2020 05: 10 New
      -2
      Are you wondering at what age I began to "give myself"?
      So it was a few more years to 16. smile
      But in general, yes. In bat we girls. it was only 10 percent. And the wedges were actively beating us. And often, not infrequently, we did not refuse. Someone had a relationship. (even two families arose), and someone gasped just out of friendship. But those earning the medal "For sexual attempts" were not among ours. There was really one unpleasant episode with an attempted rape in a drunken hemp business - but the lads themselves almost turned it into a load of 200 with their rifle butts.
    2. Victor_B
      Victor_B 4 May 2020 06: 03 New
      +2
      Quote: Sniper Amateur
      Are you wondering at what age I began to "give myself"?

      Not interested at all!
      It just automatically follows from the situation. A ridiculous puncture in a perfectly constructed text turned out. Really fight hard and very dirty.
      So that you could not "show up before the party".
      Not all the girls in expensive cars necessarily "pumped" them, but such thoughts evoke such thoughts in everyone.
    3. Sniper Amateur
      Sniper Amateur 4 May 2020 07: 24 New
      -1
      Really fight hard and very dirty.

      I know. smile After the first two or three weeks - problems with washing and getting enough sleep (classic bike: Why didn’t you wake me up on time? Friendly commander - so I thought that you would wake up from such shelling! —This is quite vital) are perceived as much more annoying, than the risk of getting a splinter or a bullet. And for most citizens (except for grandfathers) - the biggest problem was the rooftop latrine. yes
    4. Victor_B
      Victor_B 4 May 2020 07: 40 New
      +2
      Obviously, you’re not in control of the movie.
      Reality is visible in detail.
    5. Sniper Amateur
      Sniper Amateur 6 May 2020 22: 31 New
      +1
      In movies and TV shows - this will not be shown. smile There are guys in a wonderfully clean form again (after throwing through a swamp, yes laughing ), adjoining bayonets (which in reality only banks open - and even then only "grandfathers" - still by tradition) and rip off their helmets and armor before going "to the last attack". bully IMHO, this is very all harmful stamps. negative Even worse than computer games. A good computer game can at least teach tactical thinking. And this ...
  • Amateur
    Amateur 3 May 2020 13: 54 New
    -2
    That will be placed in 5-7-10 years again some "backward" amerskiye MRBM in Europe - what of the "not having analogFF" will you cover?

    We will exchange for pan-legcoles.
    1. Sniper Amateur
      Sniper Amateur 3 May 2020 14: 19 New
      -3
      Hmm ... Cool, che! A - uh-uh ... This will somehow solve the problem of missile defense reaction in case of a sudden strike, if the toys are launched from Eastern Poland or Danube Romania? And if at all from the territory of Estonia and / or the Naddnipryansk region? How many Pershing flights were there from Baden-Württemberg to Moscow? 8 minutes?
      1. Was mammoth
        Was mammoth 3 May 2020 21: 42 New
        +3
        Quote: Sniper Amateur
        Hmm ... Cool, che! A - uh-uh ... This will somehow solve the problem of missile defense reaction in case of a sudden strike, if the toys are launched from Eastern Poland or Danube Romania? And if at all from the territory of Estonia and / or the Naddnipryansk region? How many Pershing flights were there from Baden-Württemberg to Moscow? 8 minutes?

        Dreams? The question is, will there be anything left or will someone later in the above-mentioned territories, at the same time the USA as the owner of Pershing?
        1. Sniper Amateur
          Sniper Amateur 3 May 2020 22: 45 New
          -2
          A counter question: what do you think - will there be anything left of the country that tries to "leave nothing from the United States"?
          Well, this ... - when you go into a conflict - you must always take into account the possibility that the "other side" for some reason (the reasons may be different) will not be stupidly afraid.
          PS So what is there with the problem of missile defense reaction? wink
          1. Was mammoth
            Was mammoth 3 May 2020 23: 24 New
            +3
            Quote: Sniper Amateur
            Counterquestion:... .

            Is it Russia that puts the base around the United States? So it burns "nothing to leave from the United States"? If they want to try, there will be a strait named after Stalin. Not the USSR, but there will be enough strength. Oh, "Naddnipryanschina" will definitely not remain. Do you need it?
            1. Sniper Amateur
              Sniper Amateur 4 May 2020 02: 44 New
              -2
              If they want to try, there will be the Stalin Strait. Not the USSR, but enough strength.

              Just compare the number of BGs on strategic carriers, taking into account the return potential of you and "theirs" ...
              Oh, "Naddnipryanschina" will definitely not remain.

              And this can happen of course. But being at a much greater risk - Germany, Italy, the Netherlands and Belgium - to deploy RSDs on their territory - they went in due time. And a couple of decades earlier, Turkey also played. By your logic - this could not happen. But it happened ...
          2. Krasnoyarsk
            Krasnoyarsk 4 May 2020 11: 29 New
            +2
            Quote: Sniper Amateur

            A counter question: what do you think - will there be anything left of the country that tries to "leave nothing from the United States"?

            Well, what scare us, girl? Russia has never threatened anyone. She just said - who is holding a sword to us ...
            And how many people who wanted to butt with Russia were in our history? And what came of it? Yes, if something happens, we will lose a lot, but not all, thanks to the vastness of our territory. The one who wants to butt will lose everything. Is it so hard to understand? This is the first thing. And second, what is your interest in this? Do you think that Russia will not become and Ukraine will "panic"? Alas. Ukraine appeared thanks to Russia, exists thanks to Russia and will exist only thanks to Russia. Otherwise, Ukraine will disappear from the political map of the world as a "weak link".
            1. Sniper Amateur
              Sniper Amateur 6 May 2020 21: 41 New
              0
              I do not scare. smile I remind you that although only boiled eggs are cooler than you, there are also better boiled eggs in the world. bully At least two countries (with capitals in Beijing and Washington). Which you "lose everything" - you cannot stupidly do. But they can stupidly to you.
              Well, about "Russia, which never threatened anyone" - amused.
              And the fact that Ukraine will exist longer than Russia is a fact of the level multiplication table.
              PS My question was originally: what will you do if the flight time of the rocket is only a couple of minutes? ...
              PSS You want to say that you have never lost wars? Seriously? smile
  • Voyager
    Voyager 3 May 2020 13: 17 New
    +4
    There is no question of any underestimation. You are told to be sensible about things. In particular, on what the domestic and Western military-industrial complex shows and demonstrates. Quite recently, several clever people were actively hanging out here, claiming that against the background of Western missiles in our domestic hypersonic missiles, it turns out that there is not enough "hypersonic" due to the absence of a scramjet engine. Something has recently diminished by several times, as soon as the Americans showed analogs in fact without the same scramjet, but proudly called "HYBERSONIK MISSAIL". Well, okay, for the first time or something.
  • Sky strike fighter
    Sky strike fighter 3 May 2020 11: 01 New
    +3
    We have something to intercept such prodigies. Again, the Americans themselves admit it.
    For the first time, Russian air defense forces demonstrated the capabilities of their S-400 Triumph anti-aircraft missile systems for intercepting hypersonic targets. It is reported by the American edition of Military Watch.


    It is assumed that the interception of a ballistic missile warhead simulator was carried out using a 40H6E long-range anti-aircraft guided missile. Today it is the only Russian missile capable of hitting targets moving at a speed of 14 Machs.

    https://topcor.ru/14448-smi-ssha-rossija-demonstriruet-vozmozhnosti-perehvata-giperzvukovyh-celej.html
    1. WIKI
      WIKI 3 May 2020 14: 55 New
      0
      Quote: Sky Strike fighter
      It is reported by the American edition of Military Watch.

      On the Military Watch website itself, all articles are anonymous, and in the About Us section there is not a word about the owners and the editors. Whose opinion are you referring to? This is just an ordinary fake resource.
  • pru-pavel
    pru-pavel 3 May 2020 11: 34 New
    -1
    Not from the name of the rocket, not from the quotes, it is not said anywhere that it is hypersonic. Hypersonic seems to be called a military review
    1. businessv
      businessv 3 May 2020 12: 16 New
      +1
      Quote: pru-pavel
      Hypersonic seems to be called a military review
      Apparently, you are inattentively reading the material:
      Launched in 2017, the Precision Strike Missile (PrSM) program involves the creation of a new generation of high-precision operational-tactical missiles with a speed of more than 5 Mach numbers
      And they reported this:
      As stated in the press service of Lockheed Martin Corporation, the test was carried out for a short range and was recognized as completely successful.
    2. flicker
      flicker 3 May 2020 15: 00 New
      -1
      Hypersonic seems to be called a military review
      yes more precisely, its "Israeli-patriotic" part. laughing
  • Teller
    Teller 3 May 2020 12: 05 New
    -2
    Quote: Mountain Shooter
    We were surprised! Do they now have all their missiles hypersonic? Even those on which there is no ramjet for hypersound, and fly towards the target by inertia, at speeds much less than 5M? And I remember here, they staged a headwash, for "Dagger" and "Iskander"

    Yes, let them run, even a "pig in a poke" .. Russia already has antihypersound developments ..! Yes, the United States profiled Russia while celebrating the collapse of the USSR, etc. Now let them catch up if they have time ..
    1. Kushka
      Kushka 3 May 2020 17: 14 New
      -2
      When someone is being deceived, it’s still clear, but when ....
      CAM told you - the task is to reach the level of the USA
      not even worth it ("we will reduce defense costs")
      500 some F, 600 other F, destroyers in packs, let them catch up.
      Are you kidding me?
  • voyaka uh
    voyaka uh 3 May 2020 12: 12 New
    +4
    "Will they now have all their missiles hypersonic?" ////
    ----
    This word is usually added by Russian-language authors of articles. Americans this term
    apply exclusively to KR and gliders planning heights of 50 km
    1. Teller
      Teller 3 May 2020 12: 21 New
      +1
      Quote: voyaka uh
      "Will they now have all their missiles hypersonic?" ////
      ----
      This word is usually added by Russian-language authors of articles. Americans this term
      apply exclusively to KR and gliders planning heights of 50 km

      Well, Israel is tied to the United States and for this, such active protection is everything that is not created there .. wink
      How are your F-35s flying))))) Maybe you will try to Syria?
      1. fider
        fider 3 May 2020 12: 40 New
        +1
        Meter
        "Maybe you will try to Syria?"
        We try it, even with helicopters. We regularly hammer in. And there’s nothing to drag us to topics that we don’t do. tongue
      2. Do not care
        Do not care 3 May 2020 13: 06 New
        +5
        Viewed the news in the original.
        https://breakingdefense.com/2020/04/army-lockheed-prsm-missile-aces-third-flight-test/
        Still here:
        https://www.army.mil/article/235199/army_fires_third_next_gen_strike_missile_test

        Nowhere is there a word about hypersound or 5M. But it is reported that the missile covered the distance of 85 km in 91 seconds, that is, the average speed on the trajectory is less than 1 km / s or 3 with a low speed of sound.
    2. Procyon lotor
      Procyon lotor 3 May 2020 14: 33 New
      0
      Most likely, only for some readers of VO they have all hypersonic missiles. They themselves call this product Precision Strike Missile and not a word about hypersound.
  • My doctor
    My doctor 3 May 2020 12: 32 New
    0
    Quote: Mountain Shooter
    We were surprised! Do they now have all their missiles hypersonic? Even those on which there is no ramjet for hypersound, and fly towards the target by inertia, at speeds much less than 5M? And I remember here, they staged a headwash, for "Dagger" and "Iskander"

    In fact, there is logic. Let's say Russia, calling it "Dagger" and "Iskander", introduced a fashion for hypersound, and the Americans were already adjusting by choosing something similar from their designs.

    Quote: Mountain Shooter
    Even the "flying penguin" is a 5th generation aircraft !!! With a limited 50 seconds supersonic sound !! ??

    And here, quite the opposite, the Americans were the first to define the requirements for a 5th generation aircraft. And the fact that you personally have other wishes for a 5th generation airplane is tolerable.
    1. Mountain shooter
      Mountain shooter 3 May 2020 12: 39 New
      0
      Quote: MyVrach
      And here, quite the opposite, the Americans were the first to define the requirements for a 5th generation aircraft. And the fact that you personally have other wishes for a 5th generation airplane is tolerable

      I have just their requirements, one of which is non-afterburning supersonic! Is there such? There is. Invisibility (in the Hollywood sense of the term, not in the technical sense). It's not clear here. Either there is, or not. But the refusal to supply the Turks with the F-35 when the S-400 came to them suggests that not so good with invisibility. Israelis with Luneberg lenses fly, like "shine" on purpose ...
      1. Carnifexx
        Carnifexx 3 May 2020 16: 13 New
        +2
        S-400, F-35 ... all in a bunch. After the "coup" Erdogan turned the screws, well, and accused the West of supporting the rebels, after which he decided to buy S-400 from the Russian Federation, and since the conflict turned into military purchases, the United States decided to put pressure on the Turks through the F-35.
        I would suggest that NATO is just beneficial (having the S-400 and F-35 at the same time) - this will allow a better study of the parameters of the weapons of the potential enemy, because FIG knows where else these S-400s might be. Well, Russian radars do not work on a fundamentally different physics, and Soviet weapons were already in NATO countries (after the unification of Germany, trophies of Arab-Israeli conflicts).
  • dsdelta
    dsdelta 3 May 2020 12: 56 New
    +1
    Already quite limited. Information has passed that they generally do not fly to supersonic sound - the skin falls off. )))
  • KVU-NSVD
    KVU-NSVD 3 May 2020 11: 04 New
    +4
    Now the "hypersound" sticker is being molded on everything. Fashion-s ..n yeah .. any a rocket munition with a ballistic or quasi-ballistic trajectory on a certain part of the trajectory will nominally become "hypersonic". It just so happened .. physics .. n yeah ..
  • Pvi1206
    Pvi1206 3 May 2020 11: 05 New
    -2
    it's time to invent an antidote to hypersonic missiles ... we seem to be doing such work ...
  • Hermit21
    Hermit21 3 May 2020 11: 28 New
    +1
    And what kind of warhead will such a racket have with a range of 700-750 kilometers? 100-150 kilograms? This would make sense if the SBCH was equipped, but alas, there will be no new uncharges until at least 2033. Would have made a normal BRMD and screwed in the future the same "pop" W76-2. However, we are better
  • Pashhenko Nikolay
    Pashhenko Nikolay 3 May 2020 11: 32 New
    +3
    It is interesting to look at the flight trajectory. They keep quiet like ours. Because the high trajectory allows you to detect it earlier and take countermeasures. And then this "hyper" prefix turns into a "bullshit" bailiff. These hyperweapon games are somewhat reminiscent of SDI ..
  • Mayak-SH-7
    Mayak-SH-7 3 May 2020 11: 38 New
    -13
    "God bless America!" - B.N. Yeltsin laughing So, in Ukraine, the power has been illegal since 2014, according to the Russians, and Yeltsin shooting the White House from tanks means he came to power in a democratic way, and then he pushed his so-called successor into power, and in Russia it means the power elected by the people, Russians have no limit to cynicism. By the way, the darogies are brilliant, Gorbachev, like the Yeltsin, the USSR themselves collapsed and both citizens of the RSFSR and not the Ukrainian SSR, so who betrayed anyone, why are you surprised that all once friendly countries turned away from you, maybe the problem is with you and not with them, well, it can’t such that all as one is to blame, and the Russian one is right, this is a sign of schizophrenia, megalomania.
    1. Mayak-SH-7
      Mayak-SH-7 3 May 2020 11: 52 New
      -16
      minus, it means unpleasant and embarrassing for the truth, you are used to looking for a speck in a stranger’s eye in your own logs you don’t notice.
      1. Teller
        Teller 3 May 2020 12: 09 New
        +5
        Quote: Mayak-SH-7
        minus, it means unpleasant and embarrassing for the truth, you are used to looking for a speck in a stranger’s eye in your own logs you don’t notice.

        We are used to taking the capitals of states and wars to end in this way, but it makes no sense to listen to mongrels. soldier
        Dogs bark, the caravan is coming!
        1. Mayak-SH-7
          Mayak-SH-7 3 May 2020 12: 15 New
          -16
          you can only take it in your mouth, if someone took capitals, then grandfathers are from 41 to 45, you don’t even stand by them, you can’t even fart the Yeltsin generation without permission, and you tell me about taking capitals listen to Colonel Kvachkov about the state of the Russian army, which is commanded by a reindeer herder who did not even serve an urgent
          1. Sky strike fighter
            Sky strike fighter 3 May 2020 12: 59 New
            +3
            you can only by mouth
            give the cookie to someone to keep silent.
        2. Kushka
          Kushka 3 May 2020 17: 02 New
          -1
          Where are those capitals that "you" took? In Warsaw, Prague, Helsinki, Tallinn
          NATO troops - tanks, planes, missiles. Will you take it again? Will you go yourself?
          Will you send your sons? I advise you to see photos frozen in the Finnish forests.
          Whole columns! They were not even taken out -150 thousand !! They threw a forest beast.
          Overstepped? I can easier - VSVG - thrown out into the open field, under brandy
          humpback with a stake in a mountain hut. Yes there FROM STALINGRAD
          They walked and watered every meter of blood! So will you take it again?
      2. Alex Nevs
        Alex Nevs 3 May 2020 12: 52 New
        0
        Lying. Yeltsin did not take power after firing at the beldy.
      3. Uncle Vanya Susanin
        Uncle Vanya Susanin 3 May 2020 14: 02 New
        +1
        "minus means unpleasant and ashamed of the truth ..."
        Even if I put a plus to you, this will make your hysteria not true, excuse me wink
    2. Zhan
      Zhan 3 May 2020 11: 53 New
      +4
      Quote: Mayak-SH-7
      "God bless America!" - B.N. Yeltsin laughing So, in Ukraine, the power has been illegal since 2014, according to the Russians, and Yeltsin shooting the White House from tanks means he came to power in a democratic way, and then he pushed his so-called successor into power, and in Russia it means the power elected by the people, Russians have no limit to cynicism. By the way, the darogies are brilliant, Gorbachev, like the Yeltsin, the USSR themselves collapsed and both citizens of the RSFSR and not the Ukrainian SSR, so who betrayed anyone, why are you surprised that all once friendly countries turned away from you, maybe the problem is with you and not with them, well, it can’t such that all as one is to blame, and the Russian one is right, this is a sign of schizophrenia, megalomania.

      And what does this have to do with American hypersonic missiles? They discuss technical and technological aspects ... smile
      1. Mayak-SH-7
        Mayak-SH-7 3 May 2020 11: 57 New
        -12
        the most direct, all this is interconnected, geopolitics! You suffer that you were kicked even without a fight under .. from Ukraine and not only now you are afraid that missiles, like bases, can be deployed in the territory of the countries of the former USSR.
        1. Zhan
          Zhan 3 May 2020 12: 01 New
          +5
          Quote: Mayak-SH-7
          the most direct, all this is interconnected, geopolitics! You suffer that you were kicked even without a fight under .. from Ukraine and not only now you are afraid that missiles, like bases, can be deployed in the territory of the countries of the former USSR.

          You have a direct path to a psychotherapist ... lol
          1. Mayak-SH-7
            Mayak-SH-7 3 May 2020 12: 02 New
            -13
            that is, I'm wrong, you were not scared from Ukraine?
            1. Zhan
              Zhan 3 May 2020 12: 05 New
              +4
              Quote: Mayak-SH-7
              that is, I'm wrong, you were not scared from Ukraine?

              Please, explain in more detail who kicked us, what we did there and for what reason ... smile
              You are expressed in general phrases .... and the article is generally about rockets ... laughing
              1. Alex Nevs
                Alex Nevs 3 May 2020 12: 53 New
                +1
                Yes, he’s now like a Wheelbarrow. Kravchuchka will kiss Hitler. Ali oyavnuyuh okrainskiy in 1945 will invade ceramics.
            2. Sky strike fighter
              Sky strike fighter 3 May 2020 13: 14 New
              +2
              Quote: Mayak-SH-7
              that is, I'm wrong, you were not scared from Ukraine?

              We weren’t scared. In the course of your childhood, someone scared you a lot? So you get angry all the time.
          2. Teller
            Teller 3 May 2020 12: 18 New
            +3
            Quote: Zhan
            You have a direct path to a psychotherapist.

            Do not touch the ragul, let the fart blow it ... It can splatter! hi
    3. Uncle Vanya Susanin
      Uncle Vanya Susanin 3 May 2020 14: 00 New
      +2
      "Ukraine accused Russia of" lack of interest in establishing an objective picture of the fire in the Odessa House of Trade Unions in 2014. "The corresponding statement was spread by the Ukrainian Foreign Ministry."

      How to recognize a Ukrainian? It's very simple to ask - "who is to blame?"
      The heirs of Mazepa, Petlyura and Shukhevych are always to blame for the Russians hi
  • DEVIL LIFE`S
    DEVIL LIFE`S 3 May 2020 12: 20 New
    0
    Does anyone know the size and weight of this rocket?
  • Sergey39
    Sergey39 3 May 2020 12: 34 New
    0
    Quote: pru-pavel
    Not from the name of the rocket, not from the quotes, it is not said anywhere that it is hypersonic. Hypersonic seems to be called a military review

    Indeed, this missile is being created as an analogue of the Russian Iskander and is nowhere else called hypersonic.
  • Gust
    Gust 3 May 2020 13: 16 New
    0
    At VO it would also be time to decide on the terminology. On the one hand, there are not just aeroballistic, but also multi-mode RTTDs, which actively support the cruising hypersonic missiles in the atmosphere, as well as the vehicles equipped with scramjet engines. This is a kind of "hyper cruise". Everything else is ballistic, aeroballistic, etc.
  • Old26
    Old26 3 May 2020 13: 30 New
    +4
    Quote: Mountain Shooter
    In surprise! Do they now all missiles become hypersonic? Even those on which there is no ramjet for hypersound, and fly to the target by inertia, at speeds much less than 5M?

    Well, those who gave you a headwash for "Dagger" or "Iskander" can hardly be called smart people. For hypersound is both "motorized" and "non-motorized". All ballistic missiles fly using "non-motorized" hypersound. We have both Iskander and Dagger flying in this version. And it is believed that if at the end of OUT they have a speed of more than 5M - they are hypersonic. If less, then supersonic. And if this American PrSM missile in the final section of the trajectory has a speed of more than 5M, we like it or not, but it is considered hypersonic. And the fact that the term "hypersound" and "hypersonic missile" are now being molded where it is necessary and where it is not necessary, we must "thank" ourselves. For this term became a trend after the show of "weapons of March 1"
    Unfortunately, rockets based on "motor hypersound" are only in the process of being tested. And until they are put into service, we will have to talk not only about "motor" hypersound, but also take into account the fact that there is also a non-motorized one.
    And not every rocket will be considered as such (hypersonic). For example, tactical missiles MGM-140 ATACMS have speeds equal to about 1 km / s, that is, 3M are not hypersonic ...

    Quote: pru-pavel
    Not from the name of the rocket, not from the quotes, it is not said anywhere that it is hypersonic. Hypersonic seems to be called a military review

    Well, if the resulting speed at the end of the ATF was more than 5M, then it is hypersonic. So far, I have not seen TTX about this rocket, although I try to monitor all available sources

    Quote: Pvi1206
    it's time to invent an antidote to hypersonic missiles ... we seem to be doing such work ...

    In principle, they have existed for a very long time. An anti-aircraft missile (interceptor missile) does not have to have speeds comparable to the speeds of the object, which is their goal. For example, the same specialized S-300V complex has missiles with speeds of 7M, and is capable of shooting down targets reaching speeds of about 11M. In more modern ones, the speed of the target is even greater ...

    Quote: Hermit21
    And what kind of warhead will such a racket have with a range of 700-750 kilometers? 100-150 kilograms? This would make sense if the SBCH was equipped, but alas, there will be no new uncharges until at least 2033. Would have made a normal BRMD and screwed in the future the same "pop" W76-2. However, we are better

    Our "Iskander" warhead has a mass from 300 kg in export version to about 500-700 for itself. And warheads are not only special. It all depends on the performance characteristics of this rocket. If it is close to our Iskander in MGH, then it is quite possible that the warhead will be similar. If less, then respectively less and warhead
    In principle, they made BRMD for themselves, only unlike our complexes, which are launched from specialized controllers, they can be launched, including and with MLRS. That is, they can run it with ATACMS, with M270A1 MLRS and M142 HIMARS. That is, it makes the system more flexible

    Quote: Pashhenko Nikolay
    It is interesting to look at the flight trajectory. They keep quiet like ours. Because the high trajectory allows you to detect it earlier and take countermeasures. And then this "hyper" prefix turns into a "bullshit" bailiff. These hyperweapon games are somewhat reminiscent of SDI ..

    Well, now hardly anyone will tell you about the height of the trajectory. But at a distance of 700 km, IMHO, the height will be about 80-100 km. By flight time at a speed of 5,5 M - this is about 7 minutes. However, given that they will be detected in most cases at a distance of 300 kilometers, the time for interception will be four minutes. This is purely theoretical. And how it will be in reality - it’s very difficult to say so far
  • Amateur
    Amateur 3 May 2020 14: 39 New
    0
    Quote: Sniper Amateur
    Hmm ... Cool, che! A - uh-uh ... This will somehow solve the problem of missile defense reaction in case of a sudden strike, if the toys are launched from Eastern Poland or Danube Romania? And if at all from the territory of Estonia and / or the Naddnipryansk region? How many Pershing flights were there from Baden-Württemberg to Moscow? 8 minutes?

    Are all the "women of reduced social responsibility" left in Europe in quarantine, and the Ukronatsik has to "discharge" in dreams of how he is from Estonia and straight across Moscow for 8 minutes!
    This thing is stronger than Faust Goethe.
  • shadow
    shadow 3 May 2020 17: 06 New
    0
    HAHAHA))))))))))))))
    Hypersound at their small distances. It took off, flew a kilometer until it burned out and something fell somewhere there, and this successful test remained. And they didn’t lie.
  • Junior Private
    Junior Private 3 May 2020 18: 40 New
    +2
    The only thing that interests me is:
    Quote: Sniper Amateur

    The question then was: will we give a fight - or Crimea - Donbass - then South Ukraine and the Dnieper - and then everywhere (well, maybe - except for Galicia; to be honest, it has not fallen to anyone even in Ukraine, except the Galicians themselves) - Russian, I think the same way).

    WHO put the "question" to you?
    You can not answer. First of all, answer yourself.
    1. Sniper Amateur
      Sniper Amateur 6 May 2020 21: 48 New
      0
      On May 22, the "people's governor" of the Donetsk region, Pavel Gubarev, announced the creation of the political movement (party) Novorossia, which he himself headed. Speaking to the constituent congress in front of his supporters, he said that, having won in Slavyansk, the DPR and LPR will be able to recapture the remaining territories of Novorossia: the districts of Donetsk and Lugansk regions, which by that time had come under the control of Ukrainian troops, as well as Kharkov, Kherson, Zaporizhia, Dnepropetrovsk , Odessa and Nikolaev regions.

      Although what if we didn’t give a fight — it would be so — it was clear even to a student in one of the four technical schools at the latest even in March without any gubarevs.