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Special services of five countries accused China of hiding data on coronavirus

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Special services of five countries accused China of hiding data on coronavirus

Intelligence of five countries at once accused China of intentionally concealing or destroying evidence of an outbreak of coronavirus at the initial stage. About this writes the Australian edition of the Daily Telegraph with reference to the dossier prepared by the special services.


The newspaper refers to a 15-page dossier compiled by intelligence agencies of the Five Eye intelligence alliance, which includes the United States, Canada, Britain, Australia and New Zealand. According to this document, China intentionally hid or destroyed any information at the first stage about coronavirus, and also refused to provide disease materials to scientists for the development of a vaccine. The main emphasis is on the fact that in early December Beijing knew about the dangers of the virus, but they reported it only on the 20th of January.

In turn, Fox News reports that the files of the dossier generally coincide with the findings of the American intelligence. This was stated by a senior representative of the White House.

However, there is also disagreement among intelligence agencies regarding the source of infection. If Australian intelligence is inclined to believe that the source of the appearance of coronavirus is the market in Wuhan, then American has not yet fully decided and is inclined to the laboratory origin of the infection. The source is called the same laboratory in Wuhan.
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  1. Barmaleyka
    Barmaleyka 3 May 2020 08: 19 New
    -12
    Well, someone should be to blame, I don’t know for these five countries, but the authorities of the Russian Federation are to blame for the situation in Russia, it was they who created the current situation with their passivity
    1. Russobel
      Russobel 3 May 2020 08: 27 New
      15
      Russia’s authorities are solely to blame
      , yes, but in the United States, US authorities in both Spain and China ...
      Let’s deal with it from the beginning, I’ll later figure out who is most to blame.
      1. Barmaleyka
        Barmaleyka 3 May 2020 08: 45 New
        +7
        Quote: Russobel
        Let’s deal with it from the beginning,

        as always, we first create problems and heroically overcome them, it was much easier to drive all arrivals to real quarantine and not to this fiction called self-isolation
        1. dvina71
          dvina71 3 May 2020 08: 55 New
          +8
          Quote: Barmaleyka
          it was easier to drive all arrivals to real quarantine

          Tens of thousands of people? You could just not take them for two weeks .., but I'm afraid now you would blame the leadership of the Russian Federation for this ..
          1. Barmaleyka
            Barmaleyka 3 May 2020 08: 59 New
            -1
            Yes, dozens of problems now are hundreds of times more, in addition, you could stupidly close the exit
            1. Ilya-spb
              Ilya-spb 3 May 2020 09: 56 New
              17
              Intelligence - only Anglo-Saxon ... What does it mean?
              1. Buxlov
                Buxlov 3 May 2020 10: 13 New
                +2
                Quote: Ilya-spb
                Intelligence - only Anglo-Saxon ... What does it mean?

                About many things, they will rob China! There, 3 trillion is at stake, lawsuits will soon fall and the cancellation of debt obligations at the expense of damage .. China played with Western companies.!
                Although they managed to convert some of them to gold, like Russia!
                1. Ilya-spb
                  Ilya-spb 3 May 2020 10: 17 New
                  +6
                  I agree. Only China will not rob. And destroy. Like the USSR.

                  Why did articles suddenly appear that China could break up into several states? And about the strong internal national contradictions in China ...

                  No, there have been such articles before. But the scale, the number of publications is impressive.
                  1. Buxlov
                    Buxlov 3 May 2020 10: 23 New
                    -4
                    Quote: Ilya-spb
                    I agree. Only China will not rob. And destroy. Like the USSR.

                    Exactly so, China has become a tidbit for the sharks of imperialism .. And first of all they want to pit it with Russia .. And then remove the cream in the supply of weapons and other frauds ... We noticed how China scared us in the past year and many here sing it and with Belarus is the same .. hi
                  2. Barmaleyka
                    Barmaleyka 3 May 2020 10: 39 New
                    0
                    Quote: Ilya-spb
                    I agree. Only China will not rob. And destroy. Like the USSR.

                    and who said that the USSR was not robbed, the mattress came out of the next crisis just by plundering the Union, the world will pay attention again in the economic crisis, which means that either war is needed or a new “Byzantium” is plundered, which the West will receive another injection and the opportunity to live on
                    1. Tatyana
                      Tatyana 3 May 2020 11: 50 New
                      +1
                      A 15-page dossier compiled by intelligence agencies of the Five Eyes intelligence alliance, which includes USA, Canada, UK, Australia and New Zealand.

                      All these special services of the countries: USA, Canada, Great Britain, Australia and New Zealand - this is one geopolitical team of Washington under the influence of the US Federal Reserve bankers.
                      There is no trust in them.
                2. Antiliberast
                  Antiliberast 3 May 2020 20: 44 New
                  +2
                  Quote: Buxlov
                  About many things, they will rob China! There, 3 trillion is at stake, lawsuits will soon fall and the cancellation of debt obligations at the expense of damage .. China played with Western companies.!

                  And Xi listens and eats ice cream ... Even those diapers that will be consumed ... the new entente created against China are produced in ..... I will not say where.
              2. To be or not to be
                To be or not to be 3 May 2020 10: 41 New
                +7
                A bit of humor ...
                "Five nannies have a child without an eye
                The alliance's activities were almost completely secret until revelatory publications initiated by Snowden. The golden rule of the club was the protection of information about him and the principles of its functioning. However, in February there was a story worthy of a stupid comedy: Australian intelligence agents sold two cabinets from a secret vault in a used furniture store in Canberra for $ 20 (about 900 rubles - approx. Lenti.ru). At the same time, officials forgot to take secret documents from the shelves before sending the racks to the commission. Ironically, the cabinets were acquired by ABC's national television station. "
                https://lenta.ru/articles/2018/03/14/fiveeyes/
                ..and how then to believe these 5-eyes-everything is corrupt ..
              3. Starover_Z
                Starover_Z 3 May 2020 13: 49 New
                -1
                Quote: Ilya-spb
                Intelligence - only Anglo-Saxon ... What does it mean?

                the American has not yet finally decided and is leaning toward the laboratory origin of the infection.

                That's just with the address of the laboratory just still "have not decided" ...
                1. cost
                  cost 3 May 2020 15: 05 New
                  +2
                  Why is it determined? Probably not the Chinese military bio labs all over the world are stuck.
                  Americans leaning toward laboratory-borne infection

                  But under this, their approval must be at the summit of the highest level and on all accessible world sites to ultimately demand the removal of all foreign military biological laboratories from the borders of the Russian Federation
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          2. Pravodel
            Pravodel 3 May 2020 11: 41 New
            +1
            Sorry, correct you. "Not tens," but 1300 thousand who returned to Russia on May 25, 2020. The president said this in a statement. After they arrived and still arrive. It is simply impossible to isolate all of them. Even the Germans during the Second World War did not come up with a concentration camp for 1 million people and a more simultaneous stay. Add to this the special views on the isolation of those who, during the period of the epidemic, rested over the hill and come back from behind the hill. So we have an epidemic in Russia even when there were no signs of an epidemic.
            1. Barmaleyka
              Barmaleyka 3 May 2020 13: 45 New
              0
              Quote: The Truth
              It is simply impossible to isolate all of them. Even the Germans during the Second World War did not come up with a concentration camp of 1 million

              do not write nonsense, have you got back because of a cardon ?!
              in such a situation, it was just necessary to free ALL sanatoriums and rest houses
              maybe EVERYTHING, if you do, just went about the tourist and air lobby
    2. dvina71
      dvina71 3 May 2020 08: 32 New
      +7
      Quote: Barmaleyka
      it was they who, through their passivity, created the current situation

      If this is passivity, then what are actions in Europe called?
      1. Barmaleyka
        Barmaleyka 3 May 2020 08: 44 New
        +3
        Ms. I violet for Europe, the United States and China combined, hi there at least at the navel they turn at least viruses for breakfast eat
      2. Nikolay Ivanov_5
        Nikolay Ivanov_5 3 May 2020 08: 45 New
        +4
        Crime of omission or illogical behavior.
    3. To be or not to be
      To be or not to be 3 May 2020 09: 12 New
      10
      Explicit synchronization of actions from one center. And here is nothing new - the US is solving its crisis problems

      For coronovirus events, it’s easy to take the GDP of countries and the results of the coronovirus on the latest date.
      An odd coincidence for those who have more GDP there, the virus wins more for them. Maybe the ruling world is tired of the existing economic model of the economy ????

      Regarding Russia, with the onset of coronavirus infection, there has been an increase in activity 5.6 .7. and so on columns in Russia to cause dissatisfaction among the population with the current government and the president. And the funny thing is that they all in the conditions of the "regime" freely carry their nonsense ...
      1. Vitaly gusin
        Vitaly gusin 3 May 2020 09: 20 New
        +4
        Quote: To be or not to be
        An odd coincidence among those who have more GDP there the virus wins more

        Put + for this phrase.
        All right, the higher the GDP, the more people roam around the world and collect viruses along with impressions.
      2. DymOk_v_dYmke
        DymOk_v_dYmke 3 May 2020 10: 20 New
        +2
        Quote: To be or not to be
        An odd coincidence among those who have more GDP there the virus wins more

        GDP is higher where there is a higher concentration of production, including “money production” and, accordingly, human concentration. Does it surprise you?
        1. To be or not to be
          To be or not to be 3 May 2020 10: 37 New
          +2
          SmokeOk_v_dYmke (Alexander) Today, 10:20
          "Does this surprise you?"
          It has long ceased to be surprised at something and someone (except for the most beautiful NATURE!)
        2. Lopatov
          Lopatov 3 May 2020 10: 50 New
          +1
          Quote: DymOk_v_dYmke
          GDP is higher where there is a higher concentration of production, including “money production” and, accordingly, human concentration.

          India.
          Not the leader in GDP, but definitely one of the countries with the highest “human concentration”
          1. DymOk_v_dYmke
            DymOk_v_dYmke 3 May 2020 11: 06 New
            +2
            Quote: Spade
            India.
            Not the leader in GDP, but definitely one of the countries with the highest “human concentration”

            GDP for 2019:
            USA - 21,344.
            China - 14,216.
            Japan - 5,176.
            Germany - 3,963.
            India - 2,971.

            hi
            1. Tank jacket
              Tank jacket 3 May 2020 11: 23 New
              -4
              Real US GDP is two times lower ...
            2. Lopatov
              Lopatov 3 May 2020 15: 42 New
              +1
              Quote: DymOk_v_dYmke
              GDP for 2019:

              121 or 125 places. According to the calculations of the IMF and the World Bank, respectively. Not a leader
        3. Barmaleyka
          Barmaleyka 3 May 2020 10: 56 New
          -1
          Quote: DymOk_v_dYmke
          GDP is higher where production concentration is higher

          what does GDP have to do with PRODUCTION ?!
        4. Vitaly gusin
          Vitaly gusin 3 May 2020 12: 45 New
          0
          Quote: DymOk_v_dYmke
          GDP is higher where there is a higher concentration of production, including “money production” and, accordingly, human concentration. Does it surprise you?

          In general, it is not surprising, but this concentration was in December and January and it arose not from the amount of money, but from the number of people moving, who, thanks to the presence of this very money, can afford to visit other countries in Europe and Asia, not just Turkey and Egypt.
      3. Nyrobsky
        Nyrobsky 3 May 2020 11: 02 New
        +2
        Quote: To be or not to be
        Explicit synchronization of actions from one center. And here is nothing new - the US is solving its crisis problems

        Something like this. Singers are the same - USA, UK, Canada, Australia. When it is necessary to blame someone for what he did not do, then this chorus of geopolitical pederasts traditionally and almost simultaneously begins to howl.
        1. Range
          Range 3 May 2020 12: 08 New
          -1
          Suppose first that the United States provides a list of its secret biological laboratories around the world, and then we can see where the ears stick out from this macaronovirus.
    4. Hlavaty
      Hlavaty 3 May 2020 10: 06 New
      +4
      Quote: Barmaleyka
      Well, someone should be to blame, I don’t know for these five countries,

      All you need to know about these five countries:
      The USA and four countries (Canada, Great Britain, Australia and New Zealand), where, by constitution, the head of state is the Queen of Great Britain
      Union of Anglo-Saxons.
      1. DymOk_v_dYmke
        DymOk_v_dYmke 3 May 2020 10: 33 New
        0
        Quote: Hlavaty
        All you need to know about these five countries:
        The USA and four countries (Canada, Great Britain, Australia and New Zealand), where, by constitution, the head of state is the Queen of Great Britain
        Union of Anglo-Saxons.

        You don’t know anything about countries; not five countries have brought charges, but one organization:
        The newspaper refers to a 15-page dossier compiled by intelligence agencies Five Eye Alliance, which includes the United States, Canada, United Kingdom, Australia and New Zealand.
        .
        Which of the five eyes steers - no doubt. hi
    5. Vladimir Nizhegorodsky
      Vladimir Nizhegorodsky 3 May 2020 10: 25 New
      -1
      I agree that the passivity of the leadership of the Russian Federation has led to mass diseases.
      It was necessary to cross the borders on January 20, the edge of February 1.
      And then people canceled trips to China, and they flew like immortals to other countries, they say figs with him there will not get a virus.
      And how many planes flew here and here ???
      But wait, we got what we got.
      Of any negative experience, there is also benefit.
      Did not want to close, ban ????
      But immediately, too zealously they began to ban fines from the ceiling on people without work and money.
      Surrealism-virus is not afraid of these stupid fines.
      1. Vladimir Nizhegorodsky
        Vladimir Nizhegorodsky 3 May 2020 15: 36 New
        +2
        Again, something minuscule appeared on the site a lot.
        You write for people and comment, and some of them sit quietly on the site and put minuses.
        Afraid to see some speak out.
        1. Vladimir Nizhegorodsky
          Vladimir Nizhegorodsky 3 May 2020 15: 57 New
          0
          After all, here we are gathered to read all the information, chat, comment.
          Share who knows something interesting.
          Well, argue on interesting topics and questions.
        2. Beringovsky
          Beringovsky 3 May 2020 16: 00 New
          +1
          Do not worry, this is a friendly team of Zaputinists, it is always here. Minus their work.
          How could our authorities block the border with Europe? There is Courchevel and London, there are mansions and yachts, there families and children study, in the end!
          Yes, the toad probably strangled them to the last. If the Europeans themselves didn’t cross the border, they probably would still have been open.
    6. gurzuf
      gurzuf 3 May 2020 11: 09 New
      +4
      Look out the window. There are a lot of people "fighting" with the virus. More and more skewers beat him off.
      1. awdrgy
        awdrgy 3 May 2020 13: 57 New
        0
        Yeah, I’m also going to fishing Coronavirus is not a coronavirus, but I want a catfish on the table (I still have to get the potatoes to frustrate tomorrow probably) Especially since it is all the same thought up, so if fate gets it in the bunker too I’m thinking more — will the money really depreciate or not?
      2. Beringovsky
        Beringovsky 3 May 2020 15: 54 New
        -1
        Do you have such a mess in Gurzuf?
        Well, take away their skewers
    7. Alexey Sommer
      Alexey Sommer 3 May 2020 13: 21 New
      0
      Quote: Barmaleyka
      Well, someone must be to blame

      The key question is different.
      What to do?
      But in my opinion, the main thing to do is: Remove self-isolation and return the country to work.
      1. Golovan Jack
        Golovan Jack 3 May 2020 14: 20 New
        -3
        Quote: Alexey Sommer
        And in my opinion, the main thing to do is: Remove self-isolation and return the country to work

        This will be done, only the governors will do it, by their decision. For example, in Moscow (under “quarantine” conditions) yesterday there were 6000 cases. Do you propose now "returning Moscow to work"? In a week you will have not 6000, but 60000-100000. Per day. Is it definitely necessary?

        Here is a map of the distribution of the cow virus in the Russian Federation, take a look, curious:


        1. Beringovsky
          Beringovsky 3 May 2020 16: 19 New
          +1
          What are you smart! I am delighted with your reinforced concrete logic.
          Well, judge for yourself - remove quarantine, there will be a surge in disease.
          For example, in Moscow (under “quarantine” conditions) yesterday there were 6000 cases. Do you propose now "returning Moscow to work"? In a week you will have not 6000, but 60000-100000. Per day. Is it definitely necessary?

          Do you propose to leave quarantine as is, like 6 thousand is acceptable?
          Well, let's count together, although mathematics, as I see it, is not your thing.
          So. It is well known that an epidemic ends when more than 60% acquire immunity. That is, they are ill, in other words. 60% of the population of Moscow, this is approximately 7, 2 million people. Divide it by 6 thousand (the amount per day) we get 1200. 1200 days or three and a half years of quarantine as it is now, and we can "return Moscow to work."
          Just what a trifle, huh?
          What are we going to do, and wait?
          1. gurzuf
            gurzuf 3 May 2020 16: 30 New
            0
            What we shall do? Probably let it be decided by a specialist with a medical education, and not ... accountants. Although ... after all, we have every accountant, from birth - an academician.
            1. Beringovsky
              Beringovsky 3 May 2020 17: 03 New
              +1
              That is, down with doubt. It is said luminium, then luminium.
              Don’t take it into your head, everything’s normal.
              1. gurzuf
                gurzuf 3 May 2020 17: 08 New
                -2
                Ilyich’s statement that the cook can manage the state is well known. Even applied now in Ukraine. But Ilyich’s attitude should not be transferred to medicine. "Spanish" confirmation of this. Although ... thinking is all too much work. " hi Yes! I almost missed - to fight with coronovirus - arithmetic, this is something! good
                1. Beringovsky
                  Beringovsky 3 May 2020 17: 21 New
                  +5
                  Unfortunately, you do not know any "statement by Ilyich"
                  Want a joke?
                  “Kum, and what is everyone praising this Carruso?” His voice is weak, it rattles, it doesn’t hit the notes ...
                  “Have you heard Carruso?”
                  - No, but my friend on the phone sang it yesterday ...
                  Pysy. What does the Spanish have to do with it? What is her confirmation? You and Golovan directly baffle me with messages with a hidden meaning. I'm not so smart to understand them.
                  1. gurzuf
                    gurzuf 3 May 2020 17: 25 New
                    -3
                    Although heresy has ceased to be borne about how to deal with the virus. Already progress! hi
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                    2. Beringovsky
                      Beringovsky 3 May 2020 18: 15 New
                      +6
                      But you did not stop. Well have to answer without irony.
                      “Each cook can rule the state” - a fake attributed to Ilyich. In fact, he never said such a thing.
                      In the article “Will the Bolsheviks Hold State Power?” [2] (originally published in October 1917 in Issues 1–2 of the journal Enlightenment), Lenin wrote:
                      "We are not utopians. We know that any laborer and any cook not capable immediately take control of the state. In this we agree with the Cadets, and with Breshkovskaya, and with Tsereteli. But we differ from these citizens in that we demand an immediate break with the prejudice that it is to run the state, to carry out the everyday, daily work of the administration, only rich or from wealthy families officials can take. We demand that training "public administration was carried out by class-conscious workers and soldiers, and so that it could be started immediately, that is, all workers, the whole poor, should immediately be involved in training this."
                      Do you see the difference?
                      1. gurzuf
                        gurzuf 3 May 2020 18: 47 New
                        -2
                        I agree that Ilyich’s thesis mentioned above is a call to allow the poorest people to learn to rule the state (by the way, he agreed with the Cadets in this). But, what does this change in your vision using arithmetic to fight the virus? To do this, you conducted research on the Internet in my denunciation? laughing Then I like Ilyich wink , I urge you to learn to trust the experts, and not to drive empty in the fact that, apparently, the "dark forest" is also for you.
                      2. Beringovsky
                        Beringovsky 3 May 2020 18: 59 New
                        +3
                        Are you unable to divide 7 million into 6 thousand? What does the fight against the virus have to do with it? This calculation simply shows how many days 60% of the population will gain immunity, at the rate of the disease that we have today. I clearly wrote, like in Russian?
                        Why are you trying to let the muti go, are you a troll? laughing
                        You just brought a fake, knowing full well that this is a fake. Offset. wassat
                        I urge you to learn to trust the experts, and not to drive empty in the fact that, apparently, the "dark forest" is also for you.

                        Well, what do experts say about this, share it?
                        Or do you just "drive empty"?
                      3. gurzuf
                        gurzuf 3 May 2020 19: 06 New
                        -1
                        I just urge you to trust the experts in this matter. I hope the meaning of the written is understandable to you. written in Russian. How does a fake about Ilyich's thesis affect the fight against the virus? Answer if you yourself are not a troll.
                      4. Beringovsky
                        Beringovsky 3 May 2020 19: 13 New
                        +3
                        You are turning around already, moving away from the answer.
                        So what do some “experts” say there? What should be trusted then?belay Can you finally give the forecasts of these "specialists"?
                      5. gurzuf
                        gurzuf 3 May 2020 19: 24 New
                        -2
                        What answer am I leaving? What education do you have that you so famously multiplied the numbers and gave a panacea in the fight against the virus? And what medical experts say and how to behave during this period of time, you yourself can find out on the Internet. With your help, you were able to “expose” me in the Leninist “thesis”. And now, on the account of "turn around with a snake" - do not turn around with a propeller and give an answer to my question that I asked above. Or do you not know what this "?" is this a question mark
  2. Golovan Jack
    Golovan Jack 3 May 2020 16: 33 New
    -7
    Quote: Beringovsky
    It is well known that the epidemic ends when more than 60% acquire immunity

    This is where you dug it, I wonder?

    Quote: Beringovsky
    math as i see not your hobby

    Well, naturally ... let's get some math with pictures:


    Here is a picture. What do you say, mathematician? Pay attention - the Y axis is logarithmic, not linear ... say that the thread is already smart, wait, sir yes
    1. Beringovsky
      Beringovsky 3 May 2020 16: 43 New
      +1
      Mdyaaaaa, it’s clear not only mathematics you have not met in this life ....
      What did you want to say by showing this little blue line?
      What 7,2 million divided by 6 thousand is not equal to 1 thousand 200?
      What deep secret meaning is hidden in your message?
      What is the promise? wassat
      This is where you dug it, I wonder?

      Have you dug up something else? And how does it look, in percent?
      1. Golovan Jack
        Golovan Jack 3 May 2020 17: 28 New
        -7
        Quote: Beringovsky
        What did you want to say by showing this little blue line?
        What 7,2 million divided by 6 thousand is not equal to 1 thousand 200?

        Well, firstly, from the "blue line" it is clear that the "spread" of the disease (or, more simply, the number of cases per day) is still growing. Yesterday in the Russian Federation it was +700, today it is +10000. So - for sure - "not equal."

        Quote: Beringovsky
        Have you dug up something else? And how does it look, in percent?

        Let me remind you - it's about your statement that

        Quote: Beringovsky
        It is well known that the epidemic ends when more than 60% acquire immunity

        You said - you confirm this, buddy. I personally think this is nonsense, purely from life experience, but I give you the opportunity to confirm your, ahem, message. Go ahead yes
        1. Beringovsky
          Beringovsky 3 May 2020 17: 52 New
          +3
          Well, let's divide by 10 thousand. It will turn out 720 days. Some two years of current quarantine. Already easier yeah wassat after all, two years without work in four walls, we can easily stretch for you?
          What other figure would you suggest? As I understood from the previous one, 60 thousand a day or more categorically does not suit you?
          You said - you confirm this, buddy.

          Why should I subject well-known things?
          What life experience makes you think it delirium?
          1. Golovan Jack
            Golovan Jack 3 May 2020 17: 57 New
            -7
            Quote: Beringovsky
            Why should I subject well-known things?

            Then, that these are not "well-known things." Just because you named them that way doesn't make them at all. And he makes you a treacher, excuse me for not responding to your words.

            Somehow request
            1. Beringovsky
              Beringovsky 3 May 2020 18: 49 New
              +2
              Okay.
              Here.
              Academician of the RAS Alexander KULESHOV believes that one way or another 60-70% of the world's population will be ill. “... In any case, the forecast is quite pessimistic. Of course, it won’t end even for months. ”...
              Refute the academician, you and your "experience" can do it, I believe. wassat
              Well or here, Mar 19 - RIA Novosti. Doctor of Biological Sciences, professor at the GMU School of Systems Biology (USA) Ancha Baranova told RIA Novosti about two factors that determine the end of the epidemic of a new coronavirus ...
              ..... Baranova explained that when "about 70 percent of the population is ill with a coronavirus, the necessary layer of people with antibodies capable of fighting the virus will appear in the population. In this case, the infection will no longer be so massive - everyone will have immunity."
              Refute.
              1. Golovan Jack
                Golovan Jack 3 May 2020 18: 52 New
                -9
                Quote: Beringovsky
                Refute

                According to your calculations, it will be “ill” for years. According to some estimates, maximum by the end of this year there will be a vaccine. Rip cow virus request
              2. Beringovsky
                Beringovsky 3 May 2020 19: 16 New
                +4
                Not, some estimates do not crawl now. According to others to some the estimated vaccine may not be created at all.
                As it does, it will respond. tongue
                Give specific examples, or a talker. wassat
              3. Golovan Jack
                Golovan Jack 3 May 2020 19: 24 New
                -8
                Quote: Beringovsky
                Give specific examples, or a racket

                Go through the forest, tired already. About nothing and very long, I do not like.
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  • Alex Justice
    Alex Justice 3 May 2020 19: 02 New
    0
    Bad in Russia:
    https://parsonstwins.000webhostapp.com/?fbclid=IwAR0RKyuV3UHi-eyDrkSYIzUdAqc8mDwgPzFdn5V9ZLTT82qyc0jx4y96JTw
    1. Golovan Jack
      Golovan Jack 3 May 2020 19: 07 New
      -7
      Quote: Alex Justice
      Poorly

      Here's a little more informative website:


      And this is precisely about the Russian Federation:


      There is a map of the Russian Federation, inter ... intera ... pah ... in general, find the map of the Russian Federation and poke it with the mouse - everything will become clear yes
      1. Alex Justice
        Alex Justice 3 May 2020 19: 09 New
        0
        But there you can compare with other countries
        https://parsonstwins.000webhostapp.com/?fbclid=IwAR0RKyuV3UHi-eyDrkSYIzUdAqc8mDwgPzFdn5V9ZLTT82qyc0jx4y96JTw
        1. Golovan Jack
          Golovan Jack 3 May 2020 19: 12 New
          -5
          Quote: Alex Justice
          But there you can compare with other countries

          My first link is also possible.

          https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus - там есть надпись View by country. Давите, попадаете в табличку...
  • Fedorovich
    Fedorovich 3 May 2020 16: 50 New
    0
    Yes, but those who wanted to spit on all the prohibitions or generally require ignoring the precautions are not to blame for anything ...
  • Fantazer911
    Fantazer911 3 May 2020 08: 20 New
    +4
    Well, everything, they found the extreme, it is touching that the special services of such interested countries are limited, and these camps are in conjunction with the United States!
    1. knn54
      knn54 3 May 2020 08: 40 New
      11
      Judging by the list of ALL ANGLOSAKS. Gathered and APPOINTED the guilty.
      1. lucul
        lucul 3 May 2020 08: 56 New
        0
        Judging by the list of ALL ANGLOSAKS. Gathered and APPOINTED the guilty.

        This is the answer to a run over China)))
        "America, answer! People's Daily" published an article calling on the United States to answer 10 questions. "
        Details
        https://m.aftershock.news/?q=node/862835
      2. The comment was deleted.
    2. Mountain shooter
      Mountain shooter 3 May 2020 08: 45 New
      -6
      Quote: Fantazer911
      Well, that’s what we found.

      Jackals huddle around Sherkhan (a lame killer, according to Kipling) ... Only China is not Mowgli ... Rather, Hatha laughing
      1. Buxlov
        Buxlov 3 May 2020 10: 27 New
        -3
        Quote: Mountain Shooter
        Quote: Fantazer911
        Well, that’s what we found.

        Jackals huddle around Sherkhan (a lame killer, according to Kipling) ... Only China is not Mowgli ... Rather, Hatha laughing

        And Mowgli, this is Russia, in terms of behavior and generosity. Although it’s time for Russia to become the Boa Kaa in its own country. Look into the eyes of Banderlog !!!! laughing
      2. Barmaleyka
        Barmaleyka 3 May 2020 10: 53 New
        -2
        Quote: Mountain Shooter
        Only China - not Mowgli ... Rather, Hatha

        rather a milk snake
    3. Ross xnumx
      Ross xnumx 3 May 2020 09: 36 New
      +7
      Quote: Fantazer911
      touches that the special services of such interested countries are limited, and these countries are in conjunction with the United States!

      Quote: knn54
      Judging by the list of ALL ANGLOSAKS. Gathered and APPOINTED the guilty.

      I suppose that more tender is the fact:
      ... A 15-page dossier compiled by intelligence agencies of the Five Eye intelligence alliance, which includes the United States, Canada, the United Kingdom, Australia and New Zealand.

      Not a single country from the list has borders with China, they have no land borders, while screaming about some warnings ...
      The United States “cracked up” Iraq on the basis of the contents of the Colin Powell test tube and did not bear any responsibility. And the “unfortunate” GB, the “newcomer etched,” could have kept silent, mindful of decades of drugging the inhabitants of China with a drug potion.
      ================================================== ======================
      As for the situation in the Russian Federation. The Russian authorities, as well as officials, continued to travel abroad and did not enter quarantine knowing about the danger of a pandemic. And the lawlessness that was established afterwards by an adequate (quarantine) measure is called neither “language does not turn”, nor “hand does not rise”. Only one thing is clear, having directed all efforts in obtaining and increasing capital, the world of the rich and the nouveau riche completely forgot who the true owner and arbiter of fate on Earth is. And yet, if you noticed, the first thing these human-like concerned about personal well-being and worried only losses incurred as a result of the epidemic. Further resolution of the fate of the population was determined by self-isolation. Even ongoing medical care for other problems has become of third importance ... no
      For some reason, Lermontov recalled, and changing one word I quote:
      But there is also God's judgment, confidants of debauchery!
      There is a formidable court: it is waiting;
      He is not available ringing gold
      And he knows thoughts and deeds in advance.
      Then in vain will you resort to slander -
      It will not help you again
      And you will not wash away all your black blood
      The poet The people of righteous blood!
      hi
      1. Buxlov
        Buxlov 3 May 2020 10: 31 New
        -3
        Quote: ROSS 42
        Not a single country from the list has borders with China, they have no land borders, while screaming about some warnings ...
        The United States “cracked up” Iraq on the basis of the contents of the Colin Powell test tube and did not bear any responsibility. And the “unfortunate” GB, the “newcomer etched,” could have kept silent, mindful of decades of drugging the inhabitants of China with a drug potion.

        Eh, Vasilievich will zamusinuyut you now .. You have discovered a terrible secret!
        There have already announced the mobilization of trolls of all stripes ... wink
        1. Ross xnumx
          Ross xnumx 3 May 2020 10: 54 New
          +4
          Quote: Buxlov
          Eh, now Vasilievich will clam you ..

          The Russians do not give up! laughing
          Thank God that the site allows you to at least somehow "let off steam." I always read all the posts in a topic I like. It is pleasant to recognize support and to recognize like-minded people. But I am not at all afraid of the “pro-Kremlin minusers.” Let them even stand on the “gopki”. I want the peoples of Russia to live happily and securely, and not vegetate with slaves and executors of the whims of greedy idiots.
  • Amateur
    Amateur 3 May 2020 08: 20 New
    +2
    And where are the "Odobryams" from Poland with the triebalt and Ukraine? Or are these mongrels in a "decent society" do not take?
    1. Maas
      Maas 3 May 2020 08: 35 New
      -12
      Akela, too, is not taken into a decent society, somehow it interrupts because on free bread)
    2. Vasyan1971
      Vasyan1971 3 May 2020 08: 39 New
      +1
      Quote: Amateur
      And where are the "Odobryams" from Poland with the triebalt and Ukraine? Or are these mongrels in a "decent society" do not take?

      This is an ambush squad. Waiting for an attack team. To raise the waves against China, they don’t roll, and they can very well support the already raised one by creating “screams from the crowd”.
    3. Buxlov
      Buxlov 3 May 2020 10: 33 New
      -1
      Quote: Amateur
      And where are the "Odobryams" from Poland with the triebalt and Ukraine? Or are these mongrels in a "decent society" do not take?

      They are now operating here, judging by the minuses ... So to speak, the general background is being prepared by the protest against China and Russia, including .. hi
  • KVU-NSVD
    KVU-NSVD 3 May 2020 08: 21 New
    +1
    the files of the dossier generally coincide with the findings of American intelligence. This was stated by a senior representative of the White House.
    Still they would not have agreed, then he and the union of the five Anglo-Saxon countries - "identical from the face." They supported "for the crowd," as they say, and so as not to retype the conclusions from the "manuals", the discrepancy is clear on the "most important points", such as "the sky was not blue, but light blue"
  • Doccor18
    Doccor18 3 May 2020 08: 28 New
    -1
    The owner and his pugs choked
    in unison. And the elephant is coming ....
    1. Maas
      Maas 3 May 2020 08: 36 New
      -5
      Well, yes, someone is defending his patron, and someone is his)
  • mat-vey
    mat-vey 3 May 2020 08: 30 New
    +4
    A test tube with a white defect will be?
    1. Uncle lee
      Uncle lee 3 May 2020 09: 34 New
      0
      Quote: mat-vey
      A test tube with a white defect will be?

      Bats, vipers and pangolins were to blame there too .... Although there are hints of the Wuhan laboratory too!
      1. mat-vey
        mat-vey 3 May 2020 10: 21 New
        +2
        Well then, the testimony of the bat will probably sound ..
    2. Barmaleyka
      Barmaleyka 3 May 2020 10: 50 New
      +1
      Quote: mat-vey
      A test tube with a white defect will be?

      this time a bat will testify in the Security Council
      1. mat-vey
        mat-vey 3 May 2020 10: 58 New
        +1
        Oh, I only made assumptions, and you already found the person involved ... quickly))))
        1. Barmaleyka
          Barmaleyka 3 May 2020 10: 59 New
          0
          I have a full attic of people involved
          1. mat-vey
            mat-vey 3 May 2020 11: 00 New
            +2
            Quote: Barmaleyka
            I have a full attic of people involved

            And WHAT, do not spread? Or discipline - without the order of no-no.
            1. Barmaleyka
              Barmaleyka 3 May 2020 11: 01 New
              0
              second, even for walks only at night when no one sees
              1. mat-vey
                mat-vey 3 May 2020 11: 01 New
                +2
                Quote: Barmaleyka
                even for walks only at night when no one sees

                Similarly, the Chinese spy-devotees.
                1. Barmaleyka
                  Barmaleyka 3 May 2020 11: 02 New
                  +1
                  Rather German I live in the Kaliningrad region
                  1. mat-vey
                    mat-vey 3 May 2020 11: 05 New
                    +2
                    Nah .. The USA, Canada, Great Britain, Australia and New Zealand said China, then China - they are not mistaken ... nor when they are not mistaken ... Yes, and why should they.
                  2. Beringovsky
                    Beringovsky 3 May 2020 16: 30 New
                    +1
                    German-Polish-Lithuanian Freemason liberal-Stalinist, representative of 5678 columns, a secret agent of Japanese intelligence in the EU. And other other ...
                    Admit it, did you ever drink Coca Cola?
                    1. Barmaleyka
                      Barmaleyka 3 May 2020 17: 12 New
                      -1
                      Quote: Beringovsky
                      Admit it, did you ever drink Coca Cola?

                      I admit I drank, but I realized and recently I’ve been buying only a sprite for cleaning the dishwasher
  • Ros 56
    Ros 56 3 May 2020 08: 30 New
    +4
    Striped could not really learn anything, and decided to pull their sixes for extras, they say, this is an international voice. But in fact the usual provocation of the striped, they have not been able to do more recently.
  • APASUS
    APASUS 3 May 2020 08: 33 New
    0
    The newspaper refers to a 15-page dossier compiled by intelligence agencies of the Five Eyes intelligence alliance, which includes the United States, Canada, Britain, Australia and New Zealand. According to this document, China deliberately hid or destroyed any information at the first stage about coronavirus, and also refused to provide disease materials to scientists for the development of a vaccine. The main emphasis is on the fact that in early December Beijing knew about the dangers of the virus, but they reported it only on the 20th of January.

    Fox News among Americans, sort of like the newspaper Pravda in Soviet times. Everything would be fine in this version
    but the dates are NOT the same!
    US intelligence agencies warned Israel of an outbreak of coronavirus in China in November, Israeli television reported Thursday.
    According to Channel 12 news, the US intelligence community became aware of the occurrence of the disease in Wuhan in the second week of this month and drew up a secret document.

    https://www.timesofisrael.com/us-alerted-israel-nato-to-disease-outbreak-in-china-in-november-report/
    And indeed, in the American version a lot of far-fetched
    French virologist, who received the Nobel Prize for the discovery of HIV in 2008, Luc Montagnier stated that the new coronavirus COVID-19 is not of natural origin and was developed in the laboratory.
    "We concluded that there was a manipulation of this virus," Montagnier said in an interview with CNEws. He notes that HIV particles were added to COVID-19

    https://www.cnews.fr/?__cf_chl_captcha_tk__=ea7fa0199def56b39a8dd9d693c1e04fee222658-1588483776-0-Aa3T-Neyr_7LMGhbNVcmJSqphuNoA5kcXrOTMv5kjWDbroCCkEwY4pBD4b735OEeZwRJEzYHIX636mBvwouROGMbWCFTHZ_i8B855i9Y1kbnCVa4zMX685he0XrG4aeTcaT36N1YL6obtu3TkjhqCmawh0PPxUA_4RgPHd4Hkjtpq3-I-KZFIXCVreApYE3g6bCwLhPP-ckEAgm_pTmWncPE_zl4WtSfUbLnrz8eJVcjqcCPS5-_cz9zRFTktcZVvYQ0BaVZn_URgW8MTdtfc-JzX5F2oaa3HmMmr2qWurvx8FEIutaMwtF6hCKrYau8msZ3qPd2XU4CP6F9g_J-lkOMVfA9DXyWgtOi-woPubZVUOde5nQc7TTPhNjnvXtabtqGkvMEB0vWHUctQD0DdqssYm1VD6LTxGtLf7qbdu7EiQ2x4BtoX3eQtSrTAySKmQsHtsmZqbPzlm16XP6IxtR0kIjCkyJcGF0mLruE03rc

    Although I am 300% sure that China will be found guilty of the manufacture of the virus, the Highly likely principle in action !! He proved himself well enough in the case of the Skripals. The investigation of the Americans is not of interest in principle - the culprit is appointed
    1. carstorm 11
      carstorm 11 3 May 2020 08: 45 New
      +1
      definitely not in production. all that they say is simply shouting that China will be defamed at the next high-likes on the topic of data hiding. it is precisely this which cannot be proved either by China to refute. they need the guilty one and he is already appointed. again there will be investigations and stuff, and Trump really needs it. tens of thousands of deaths in the states must be urgently attributed to someone and this someone has already been identified. Once again, the world will become a playground in the election manipulations of American presidents. which is more funny that once again a reasonable majority understands that all this is nonsense and for what is done, but nobody cares. and as usual, no one even tries to calculate the consequences of this.
  • svp67
    svp67 3 May 2020 08: 39 New
    +1
    The newspaper refers to a 15-page dossier compiled by intelligence agencies of the Five Eyes intelligence alliance, which includes the United States, Canada, Britain, Australia and New Zealand.
    At first I was surprised that so little, such accusations were made from Germany, Ukraine, and from several other countries, and then I realized ... "it’s not yet evening" and in other countries have not yet decided which side to take in the impending "war "... But from the" war of words ", it can gradually go into the" hot "...
  • 3vs
    3vs 3 May 2020 08: 45 New
    +4
    As I understand it, the Americans have found a way to forgive the Chinese for their investments in American securities ... yes
    1. APASUS
      APASUS 3 May 2020 08: 55 New
      +1
      Quote: 3vs
      As I understand it, the Americans have found a way to forgive the Chinese for their investments in American securities ... yes

      China alone cannot be forgiven, it’s an interconnected system. But attempts to seize property and money, of course, will take advantage of this. Moreover, an American court will rule on China’s guilt in a couple of days
      1. Buxlov
        Buxlov 3 May 2020 10: 37 New
        0
        Quote: APASUS
        China alone cannot be forgiven, it’s an interconnected system. But attempts to seize property and money, of course, will take advantage of this. Moreover, an American court will rule on China’s guilt in a couple of days

        As with Yugoslavia, Iraq, Libya, Syria, etc.
        Russia is also constantly threatened! This is the essence of Western policy, robbery, as long as there is an opportunity ..
  • rocket757
    rocket757 3 May 2020 08: 54 New
    +5
    Everything is correct !!!
    Let’s figure out how in Africa the “African Swine Fever” came from, where AIDS spread across the world, where it comes from everywhere and why minke whales are “cooked” in their biological laboratories all over the world ???
    I understand that all kinds of research are needed, in different places too! but let's make it so that humanity would not have to be afraid that no infection would break free from these laboratories and not kill us all!
    By the way, blaming about the current infection only to national governments is not very clever, WE ourselves, many of us have greatly contributed, Schaub infection has spread everywhere !!!
    Intentionally or unknowingly, it should be the competent authorities to UNDERSTAND!
    SIT HOUSES, SAVE YOUR HEALTH AND CLOSE !!!
    So far, only so.
    1. Buxlov
      Buxlov 3 May 2020 10: 45 New
      +2
      Quote: rocket757
      Let’s figure out how in Africa the “African Swine Fever” came from, where AIDS spread across the world, where it comes from everywhere and why minke whales are “cooked” in their biological laboratories all over the world ???

      Ah Victor, you ask dangerous questions ... hi Everyone knows and is silent!
      Quote: rocket757
      By the way, blaming about the current infection only to national governments is not very clever, WE ourselves, many of us have greatly contributed, Schaub infection has spread everywhere !!!

      Especially when shift workers and other guest workers were released from Moscow and other centers .. They’ll take the analysis and release it .. And then they’ll send to catch up what to catch and isolate .. And he already visited everyone at the stores and hugged and greeted .. It seems that they are doing it on purpose .. The number of infected in the regions is growing terribly ..
      1. rocket757
        rocket757 3 May 2020 11: 07 New
        +1
        Quote: Buxlov
        Everyone knows and is silent!

        We are just guessing, nothing more.
        Quote: Buxlov
        It seems that they are doing it on purpose ..

        Old as the world "No matter what happens"!
        The upper ones are used to "playing" in dermocracy! Because .... and then a bunch of reasons can lead!
        Anyway, it turns out that they cost half measures. Plus, we ourselves do not want to understand, accept that it is ALL CONCERNS!
  • Nadrub
    Nadrub 3 May 2020 09: 02 New
    +1
    Five eyes .... And where is another eye? Someone there is one-eyed :)
  • Julius Caesar
    Julius Caesar 3 May 2020 09: 04 New
    +2
    Intelligence of five countries at once accused China

    americos and gillstones. They have already developed a new training manual, they will shake it with test tubes, they will show pixel black-and-white abstractions ... And there they will introduce sanctions and require money.
    1. 16329
      16329 3 May 2020 10: 58 New
      0
      The meaning of what is happening is an occasion for a Western conflict with China, then economic sanctions against China, then the collapse of the modern global economic system and, well, there are different military conflicts.
      And after either the regionalization of the global space, or the world government, how come
  • Chingachguk
    Chingachguk 3 May 2020 09: 16 New
    +1
    So for this “union”, for the sake of importance, it was possible to add a couple of dozen “eyes” from dill, the Baltic emirates, and the rest adjoining highly like ....
  • Servisinzhener
    Servisinzhener 3 May 2020 09: 19 New
    +3
    The title should be rewritten. In fact, there are special services of two countries.
    In general, I am not surprised by this situation. Because the West needs to somehow justify this situation with the spread of the virus in their countries.
    And how at one time praised the Western health care system. And what we see. Even in Germany, the number of infected people is 2 times higher than in China.
    1. +5
      +5 3 May 2020 09: 39 New
      +2
      For the sake of truth, the number of infected people should be estimated taking into account the number of tests .... But that Western health caressed is a fact.
      A special rzhaka that in the autumn of 19 some kind of independent and authoritative fund drew a tablet where it assessed the countries' readiness for an epidemic to be different ... In the first places are the USA and the Netherlands where the crown is especially fierce ... the Russian Federation and the People's Republic of China are average
    2. Barmaleyka
      Barmaleyka 3 May 2020 10: 45 New
      -6
      Quote: Servisinzhener
      Even in Germany, the number of infected people is 2 times higher than in China.

      Well, for the sake of truth, how many in China we do not know, excuse me
      despite the fact that they have a population density at times, there are only two options, either frankly underestimating or stupidly not checking everyone, on the principle of "we’ll launder this or start a new one"
      1. Lopatov
        Lopatov 3 May 2020 11: 00 New
        +5
        Quote: Barmaleyka
        either frankly underestimate or stupidly not everyone checks

        Either hard quarantine and observance bear fruit.
        Imagine how fewer patients we would have if for moving, for example, from the Moscow region. I had to spend two weeks in quarantine in Ryazan
        1. Barmaleyka
          Barmaleyka 3 May 2020 11: 02 New
          -4
          I am inclined to the first, there are many premises
          1. Fedorovich
            Fedorovich 3 May 2020 16: 52 New
            0
            Five, huh?
            1. Barmaleyka
              Barmaleyka 3 May 2020 17: 10 New
              -2
              Quote: Fedorovich
              Five, huh?
              what are five ?!
              1. Fedorovich
                Fedorovich 3 May 2020 23: 36 New
                +1
                Prerequisites.
                1. Barmaleyka
                  Barmaleyka 4 May 2020 06: 53 New
                  -2
                  I still do not understand what you mean
                  1. Fedorovich
                    Fedorovich 4 May 2020 17: 41 New
                    0
                    The ability to understand in people with an underdeveloped cerebellum, according to Baudouin, is reduced from fourteen to twenty-three percent. Match and think, and I'll wait
                    1. Barmaleyka
                      Barmaleyka 4 May 2020 18: 36 New
                      -1
                      you wrote nonsense, at the same time you’re not even able to explain the meaning of what you wrote this nonsense for, I understand, another question is that with a mature cerebellum you are not able to adequately evaluate the opponent’s statement, but there’s more than enough boasting and rudeness in you.
                      1. Fedorovich
                        Fedorovich 5 May 2020 08: 02 New
                        -1
                        I speak in plain text - the level of your intellectual development allows you only one thing - to repeat American fairy tales. I hope you can understand this?
                      2. Barmaleyka
                        Barmaleyka 5 May 2020 08: 34 New
                        -1
                        you didn’t even have the imagination to read and understand that I’m not repeating anyone’s tales, once again for visually impaired
                        the population density in China is many times more than the social guarantee is many times worse, but now compare all this and the number of people infected, not even with the states there, with hollow stiff medicine, with Germany
                      3. Fedorovich
                        Fedorovich 5 May 2020 11: 25 New
                        -1
                        The court is removed and is no longer returned. You don’t have any mind-birds, so all you can do is repeat someone’s nonsense, denying the facts.
                      4. Barmaleyka
                        Barmaleyka 5 May 2020 12: 06 New
                        0
                        rudeness is certainly a weighty argument, but you can cite the facts that you mention ?!
                      5. Fedorovich
                        Fedorovich 6 May 2020 08: 38 New
                        -1
                        Have you brought at least one argument, my dear? No, and obviously not going to, because you do not have them. And where do they come from, if you so openly grunt Langley that it’s even funny.
                      6. Barmaleyka
                        Barmaleyka 6 May 2020 08: 43 New
                        0
                        I brought my arguments, another question is that you ran into your "five prerequisites"
                        Quote: Fedorovich
                        And where do they come from, if you so openly grunt Langley that it’s even funny.

                        you are sick?!
                        I think the US is violet, I presented my thoughts can not read your problems
  • Chingachguk
    Chingachguk 3 May 2020 09: 22 New
    +2
    To begin with, let's open American biological laboratories around the world, see what they really do there and destroy them right away, or let them change their law and deal with this muck exclusively on their territory.
    1. AU Ivanov.
      AU Ivanov. 3 May 2020 10: 22 New
      +2
      It is unlikely that the Americans will produce top-secret developments on foreign territory, and, in the case of China, also on the territory of a likely enemy. This is fraught with information leakage. This is ridiculous. The collection of biological information is the task of these laboratories.
      1. Barmaleyka
        Barmaleyka 3 May 2020 10: 44 New
        +1
        Quote: AU Ivanov.
        It is unlikely that the Americans will produce top-secret developments on foreign territory

        at times, all the more so dangerous, and in which case there’s no laboratory bang and the locals die of some kind of garbage by eating "snake-mouse-dog" meat
      2. Chingachguk
        Chingachguk 3 May 2020 10: 48 New
        0
        Here at home, let them collect biological information so that it would not be so funny !!! It’s just that the RF needs to pass a law - IF IN THE TERRITORY, WHERE THERE IS AT LEAST ONE AN ​​AMERICAN BIO LABORATORY, IF ANY UNDERSTANDABLE INFECTION IS NOT TYPICAL FOR THIS REGION, THERE IS SO LITTLE THAN US! Naturally with all the ensuing consequences - starting with the arrest of the staff of this office, immediately checking this laboratory and then closing it anyway, using the explanation of our "friends" ---- HAILY LIKELI!
        If the jurisdiction of the Russian Federation does not operate in any territories, declare guilty in absentia on exactly the same unfounded explanations as Europe and the Anglo-Saxons like to do it!
      3. Lopatov
        Lopatov 3 May 2020 11: 01 New
        0
        Quote: AU Ivanov.
        This is ridiculous.

        What's so funny?
        Information security is very easy to provide.
        1. AU Ivanov.
          AU Ivanov. 3 May 2020 11: 49 New
          +4
          How to keep the secrecy of the American laboratory in China? Ukraine, Poland - it’s clear there: the six countries. But China, a competitor and a likely adversary of the States, with good intelligence and counterintelligence? If you remember, biological experiments in the USSR were carried out in hard-to-reach isolated places, for example, o. Barsakelmes in the Aral Sea. Or in closed cities where foreigners were denied access. What a striking American carelessness in terms of keeping state secrets, don't you find? Or, more likely, conspiracy theory.
          1. Lopatov
            Lopatov 3 May 2020 15: 48 New
            0
            Quote: AU Ivanov.
            How to keep the secrecy of the American laboratory in China?

            Easily.
            Carry out investigations. In case of danger, rub the storage media.

            Quote: AU Ivanov.
            If you remember, biological experiments in the USSR were carried out in hard-to-reach isolated places

            In order not to harm Soviet citizens.
            And the Americans not only do not care about the Chinese, they conducted experiments on their fellow citizens. As an example, Tampa Bay and the pertussis epidemic
            1. AU Ivanov.
              AU Ivanov. 3 May 2020 16: 05 New
              +1
              Something the Americans did not run away to produce secret weapons development in other countries. And no one in their right mind and solid memory will do this, for reasons of secrecy.
              In Sverdlovsk, they just hurt Soviet citizens by releasing a combat strain of anthrax from the laboratory. Although they were classified and lied as best they could, information was rumored throughout the country.
              1. Lopatov
                Lopatov 3 May 2020 17: 13 New
                +1
                Quote: AU Ivanov.
                Something the Americans did not run away to produce secret weapons development in other countries.

                How do you know that they didn’t run away?


                Quote: AU Ivanov.
                In Sverdlovsk, they just hurt Soviet citizens by releasing a combat strain of anthrax from the laboratory.
                By chance. And then "biological experiments in the USSR were carried out in hard-to-reach isolated places" (c)
                Americans, on the contrary, deliberately infected fellow citizens.
                1. AU Ivanov.
                  AU Ivanov. 3 May 2020 17: 43 New
                  +2
                  Hard to reach for foreign intelligence. Sverdlovsk during Soviet times was closed to foreign citizens. And who knows, have we set up biological experiments on our citizens? Perhaps they did. But we conducted exercises at the Totsky training ground using real nuclear weapons.
                  1. svp67
                    svp67 3 May 2020 18: 12 New
                    0
                    Quote: AU Ivanov.
                    Perhaps they did. But we conducted exercises at the Totsky training ground using real nuclear weapons.

                    Yes, these teachings, in comparison with the similar ones that the Americans conducted, are babble ...
                    Quote: Spade
                    How do you know that they didn’t run away?

                    So for reflection
                    1. AU Ivanov.
                      AU Ivanov. 3 May 2020 18: 16 New
                      +3
                      Babble is not babbling, but if we tested nuclear weapons on our citizens, then there is no guarantee that they did not experience BW on them.
                      1. svp67
                        svp67 3 May 2020 18: 39 New
                        0
                        Quote: AU Ivanov.
                        but if we tested nuclear weapons on our citizens

                        No, we did not test nuclear weapons on our citizens, we taught them to defend themselves from it ... and this is a huge difference
  • Pvi1206
    Pvi1206 3 May 2020 09: 26 New
    0
    a mystery obscured by darkness ... hardly when we learn the truth ...
    1. alien
      alien 3 May 2020 10: 20 New
      0
      Quote: Pvi1206
      a mystery obscured by darkness ... hardly when we learn the truth ...

      The only way in which the artificial origin of the virus will be ruled out is if some biologist can prove that SARS-CoV-2 had to go through a pangolin or bat before jumping into a person.

      If this is the case, then why does WHO not recommend banning the sale and eating of bats?

      Here is a video (February 9, 2020) on the Indonesian market (270 million people) calmly trading and eating bats. Are they safe?
      1. AU Ivanov.
        AU Ivanov. 3 May 2020 12: 04 New
        +4
        This infection was before, it was simply believed that it does not pose a danger to humans. Hence the reduced safety measures when working with it in Chinese laboratories.
  • +5
    +5 3 May 2020 09: 36 New
    -2
    They need to appeal to the Ukrainians, for many years they have considered trillion lost loss
  • Alexander X
    Alexander X 3 May 2020 09: 41 New
    +2
    But where are the tribals? why is China not blaming their intelligence?
    1. Chingachguk
      Chingachguk 3 May 2020 10: 52 New
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      They are just a trifle and stupid as usual. Mmmmedlooooooooohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
    2. businessv
      businessv 3 May 2020 11: 49 New
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      Quote: Alexander X
      But where are the tribals? why is China not blaming their intelligence?
      They still need to decide, this is a serious matter! To grunt in the wrong direction is scary and not profitable!
  • Tomich3
    Tomich3 3 May 2020 10: 14 New
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    Intelligence agencies accused China of being China laughing
  • Olddetractor
    Olddetractor 3 May 2020 10: 23 New
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    Quote: Alexander X
    But where are the tribals? why is China not blaming their intelligence?

    By the afternoon of tomorrow, swing laughing
  • Tank jacket
    Tank jacket 3 May 2020 10: 33 New
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    And where, please provide information on the so-called ZERO patient in the USA? repeat
    Where is he doing what? Who is he? Recover or die? And most importantly, when did he get sick?
    1. alien
      alien 3 May 2020 10: 40 New
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      Quote: Tank jacket
      And where, please provide information on the so-called ZERO patient

      The key question.
      1. Tank jacket
        Tank jacket 3 May 2020 11: 26 New
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        US ZERO patient data is classified ...
  • smart fellow
    smart fellow 3 May 2020 10: 38 New
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    The director of the laboratory in Wuhan was a British citizen who received a salary of $ 50000 a month and spent most of his time in the United States. Of the 14 authors of the virus created 2 years ago, 2 were Chinese who connected at the last stage - testing the already created virus, and the rest are citizens of Britain and the USA. They sponsored work by pharmaceutical companies and US citizen Bill Gates, who invested about $ 2 billion over several years in such developments and a little less was allocated to WHO sponsorship than the US government over the same period. Obama banned development in the US and the gang moved to China. The Nobel laureate who discovered HIV stated that COVID-19 was created using HIV. Because no cure for HIV has been found so far and this may not be possible for Mr to find. The United States even closed the famous Fort Detrick. One gets the impression that whoever needs it knows everything, but for various reasons is silent. The Russian Foreign Ministry, for example, made a statement on US bio-laboratories on the Russian border. China was too globalized and now realized that it had let it go. Therefore, WHO denied admission to the investigation of COVID-19.
    1. alien
      alien 3 May 2020 10: 58 New
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      Quote: smart fellow
      One gets the impression that whoever needs it knows everything, but for various reasons is silent.

      Ian Lipkin, an epidemiologist at Columbia University, who acted as a medical consultant for the Infection thriller (2011), spoke about the positive result of a coronavirus test:

      "If Covid-19 could get meHe can get anyone. No matter where I got the virus. It has spread throughout the US, you can get infected anywhere. "
      https://apostrophe.ua/article/lime/events/2020-03-25/meditsinskiy-konsultant-filma-zarajenie-zarazilsya-koronavirusom/31777
  • Azazelo
    Azazelo 3 May 2020 10: 57 New
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    The little dogs were told to yap.
  • Wolf
    Wolf 3 May 2020 11: 03 New
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    As for coronavirus, the history of the epidemic is fully visible. From the beginning of the SZO, and Bill Gates organized a global pandemic exercise called Project 201 in2019. then the U.S. CDC of the USA painted a competition in Oktober 2019 for all the allied powers of the U.S. for QUARANTINE advisers with a deadline of 15. 11. 2019. 15.05. to 2020. 2017., and then the epidemic begins in China. Fauci and the American Infectious Diseases Institute back in 37. sent coronavirus to Wuhan with the task of traffic jams on blind mice and paid $ XNUMX million.
    In my opinion, the Chinese framed Anglo-Saxons as kids. Many seriose rosologists say the virus is ART.
    In fact, it seems like a biological war is going on, of the global parasites against humanity, and economically, the crisis is also a frequent plan!
    The worst thing is that now officially the VLAD Anglo-Saxons have supported the GLOBAL GARBAGE IN PRESSURE ON CHINA
    Another question is how the virus is expanding around the world ??? Ochim country !!!
    Is it possible to completely be that in epruvats spread the virus around the world ???
    1. Wolf
      Wolf 3 May 2020 11: 10 New
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      So, HIV is paired with bird flu, pigs are flu. All of them HAVE BEEN MADE BY HUMAN, and in the last 20-30 years the vaccines were made by Western companies, they contain different substances for shortening a person’s life and the difference between illness and cancer.
      1. Wolf
        Wolf 3 May 2020 11: 17 New
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        Until now, the thread of one vaccine does not have a declaration of what is inside, (this is a secret). When you buy a can of cucumbers there is a declaration that it is inside one of additives and preservatives, but on the other hand, when something is stuffed into your children or is it a secret ???
        1. Tank jacket
          Tank jacket 3 May 2020 21: 54 New
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          Wolf, hi , it is no longer a secret, they infertile infertility and reduce, program immunity or lack of immunity to certain viruses.
      2. alien
        alien 3 May 2020 11: 20 New
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        Quote: Wolf
        and the deadliest in the last 20-30 years vaccines are made by western companies

        Now the main thing do not go into conspiracy, and take care of yourself and others, especially take care of the elderly.

        Academician of the Russian Academy of Sciences, immunologist Valery Chereshnev:
        “How long did the epidemic in China last? From December to April - 4,5 months. It started in March. So, we can assume it will end in mid-July. Provided that we can localize the sources of infection, as in China.”
        What is going on here? Cars go, people go - many communicate in parks, squares. What are we doing! After all, everyone already knows about the asymptomatic cases of COVID-19. This means that people may not realize that they are carriers of infection. But many have elderly relatives. Immunocompromised people are especially at risk of infection. "
        https://rg.ru/2020/04/14/akademik-chereshnev-kak-podgotovit-organizm-k-vstreche-s-virusom.html
        1. Wolf
          Wolf 3 May 2020 11: 27 New
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          The alien there is about KOVID 19, many questions and many countries. An influenza virus of the type of different coronavirus carries 90% of humanity in itself, so if a person who is a carrier is not a confirmation, a person who is completely healthy will be able to have a positive response. Not as easy as they say in the media.
  • Pandiurin
    Pandiurin 3 May 2020 11: 27 New
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    "Australian intelligence is inclined to believe that the source of the appearance of coronavirus is the market in Wuhan, while American intelligence has not yet completely decided and is inclined to the laboratory origin of the infection ..."

    Those. the main "reinforced concrete" high-likeli have not yet been shot. It looks like the story will be long with incredible unexpected twists and shocking revelations.

    China also takes aim (to prepare to voice compromising evidence both on the US and on specific individuals), you can see:
    "People's Daily published an article calling on the United States to answer 10 questions."
  • Lyudmila Kostargina
    Lyudmila Kostargina 3 May 2020 11: 40 New
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    USA - greatest country in the World!
    vote for the US dollar, vote for a great country! laughing
  • Lyudmila Kostargina
    Lyudmila Kostargina 3 May 2020 11: 43 New
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    Exactly. The right guys to the noise divide the loot. laughing
  • businessv
    businessv 3 May 2020 11: 44 New
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    Intelligence from five countries at once accused China of intentionally concealing or destroying evidence of an outbreak of coronavirus at the initial stage.
    Mattresses launched the promised attack on the Celestial Empire, without waiting for the end of the pandemic? Although, as a preparatory stage, this is suitable.
  • silberwolf88
    silberwolf88 3 May 2020 12: 20 New
    +1
    thoughts to nullify the debt with China on false and initially far-fetched (intelligence of Australia is ridiculous of course) accusations ... as if to fuck everyone for money ... but we are already guilty of everything ... now it's a warm winter and a hot summer ... well, of course, it is again Russia (according to New Zealand intelligence) that corrected the weather by mass arson of forests))) ... the bolder the lie - the more willingly they believe in it ... especially the liars themselves ...
  • forester1971
    forester1971 3 May 2020 12: 25 New
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    "Five eyes" are five one-eyed? Or some other options? But seriously - it’s easiest to write off your punctures on others, i.e. China, and even try to make a profit on it.
  • sleeve
    sleeve 3 May 2020 13: 07 New
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    Long pulled. Maybe they came up recently?
  • Viktor Sergeev
    Viktor Sergeev 3 May 2020 14: 09 New
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    The owner and his brainless jackals in his repertoire. When will the test tube begin to wave?
  • Lyudmila Kostargina
    Lyudmila Kostargina 3 May 2020 14: 35 New
    0
    The chief physician from New York, who was at the forefront of the US fight against coronavirus, committed suicide.

    Dr. Lorna Brin, who was the medical director of the emergency department at Allen’s New York Presbyterian Hospital in Manhattan, died from injuries to herself on Sunday, police said.

    The father of 49-year-old doctor Philip Breen told the New York Times: "She tried to do her job, and it killed her."

    https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-52451094
  • shadow
    shadow 3 May 2020 17: 10 New
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    Well, that in China they hide the true state of affairs, this is understandable. If we have 10 tons here every day, then they, I’m even afraid to imagine how much.
    There is such an article: 21 million died in China on 29.03.2020/XNUMX/XNUMX. True, this is indirect data, but there is nothing truer than them. And taking into account the fact that they want to hang all the dogs in China, they use the closed nature of China.
  • VLADIMIR VLADIVOSTOK
    VLADIMIR VLADIVOSTOK 3 May 2020 23: 43 New
    +2
    These Zhidomassonsky Anglo-Saxons themselves created it! The virus is synthesized in the USA!
  • Adimius38
    Adimius38 3 May 2020 23: 46 New
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    in this case, I think that the United States is right, China climbed into the area where it should not climb. Of course, the Russian authorities will cover Beijing because they are heavily dependent on trade with China, while the United States received an excuse to weaken the Chinese economy. In this case, I think we can even switch the American attention to China.