Mr. Kiselyov succeeded. What flies into it today is incomparable with Zuleikha, who opens her eyes, and the creators of the pseudo-Tatar epic (by the degree of discharge) series can even take a breath.
We can say that Kiselev caused a fire on himself. Well, not fire, of course, this substance is far from fire. However, what the mouth of the main speaker (and the deputy director of the TRC "Russia") said prompted many to speak out.
It is clear that Mr. shout did not want to cause such a stir around his person, moreover, judging by his statements, he did not fully understand WHAT really flew out of his mouth, but ...
“We need to erect monuments to Kolchak, Wrangel, Denikin, Krasnov. But also to Blucher, Frunze, Dzerzhinsky, Dr. Botkin, who was shot in the Ipatiev House. This can be done only by ceasing to perceive the monument as an icon, and historical figures do not deify. Each has its own contribution, its own idea and its own tragedy. Everyone's experience is instructive. Then we can populate the real image of Russian history with a variety of historical figures in our heads, and make the historical experience richer. In each, positive energy must be allocated, and then they will nourish us, not destroy us.
The list was handed to Kiselev, of course, that one. Blucher, Kolchak, Wrangel - figures historically ambiguous. We simply leave Frunze; he finished earthly affairs rather early. I don’t just respect Anton Ivanovich Denikin, this is one of the symbols of the Russian character for all centuries.
Krasnov ... Ataman Krasnov ...
By the way, yes, when it comes to traitors and collaborators, for some reason they put Krasnov next to Vlasov. Now many will say: “What difference does it make” and will, in my opinion, be completely wrong.
Let's get a look? Carefully and without screaming.
Krasnov was a hereditary Cossack general, and, as befits a representative of this estate, he fought all his life.
Started in Russian-Japanese, then World War I, then Civil. The awards indicate that Peter Nikolaevich was not a coward.
Order of St. Stanislav 3rd degree (1898).
Order of St. Stanislav 2rd degree (1899).
Order of St. Anne of the 2nd degree (1903).
Order of St. Vladimir 4th degree with swords and bow (1905).
Swords and bow to the Order of St. Stanislav 3rd degree (1906).
Order of St. Vladimir 3rd degree (1913).
Order of St. Stanislav of the 1st degree with swords (VP 1.05.1915).
Swords for the Order of St. Vladimir 3rd degree (VP 5.03.1915).
Georgievskoe weapon (VP 25.07.1915).
Order of St. Anne of the 1st degree with swords (VP 2.08.1915).
Order of St. George 4th degree (VP 30.12.1915).
Order of St. Vladimir of the 2nd degree with swords (VP 10.12.1916).
Even Tsar Nikolai II wrote about the ataman Krasnov in his diary.
But the career ended in the Civil War. Yes, Krasnov took a clear anti-Bolshevik position, but was, let's say, somewhat frantic and clearly went too far in his aspirations. Therefore, he was in eternal conflict with the same Denikin, who eventually asked him from the army.
Krasnov and Denikin
Krasnov left for Germany, where he received citizenship and began to engage in journalism. He wrote books and magazines where he zealously criticized the USSR.
And when Hitler came to power, then at Krasnov everything was combed. Krasnov saw in Hitler both a chance for himself and a force that could be relied upon in the war with the Soviet Union, which Krasnov was still an adversary to the last drop of blood.
Therefore, in the forefront, Krasnov rushed to swear allegiance to Hitler, and not only personally, but also dragged the emigrant Cossacks along with him. He served, as they say, not for fear, but for conscience in half with hatred.
Considering that the Germans themselves were willing to cooperate with Russian emigrants and oppositionists, it is clear that they accepted Krasnov with open arms.
And then the chieftain really went too far. Anton Ivanovich Denikin, who already could not stand him even in that life, was indignant and made several speeches that forever drew the line between the Russian emigrants. And today we recall some as individuals who are controversial in historical terms, while others pass by us as traitors.
The first and second are debatable. However, Denikin really should say "thank you" for the fact that the smartest part of the emigration did not go after Hitler to Hitler. Smart people, you know, are always more dangerous than cannon fodder ...
On June 22, 1941, Krasnov made an appeal:
“I ask you to tell all the Cossacks that this war is not against Russia, but against the Communists ... May God help German weapons and Hitler! Let them do what the Russians did in Prussia in 1813. ”
In addition, the chieftain became the author of the "Cossack oath", which sounded like this:
“I promise and swear by the Almighty God, before the Holy Gospel, that I will serve the Leader of the New Europe and the German People Adolf Hitler faithfully and will fight Bolshevism without sparing my life to the last drop of blood. I will execute all laws and orders, from the chiefs given by the Leader of the German People Adolf Hitler, who I have given, with all my strength and will. In what may the Lord God Almighty help me. In conclusion of this oath, the whole Word and the Cross of my Savior. Amen".
Well, until the very end of Nazi Germany, Krasnov was the most devoted supporter of Hitler with all the ensuing consequences. And, I must say, pretty consistently fought until the end of Germany. He just preferred to naturally rush to the West and surrender to the British.
And now, of course, such an interesting question: why did Krasnov not please the British, who had never been our friends (rather, on the contrary), that they betrayed him? In principle, it’s not so important, I think the point here is precisely the fanatical devotion to the Führer. But this is my version, the point is that they returned to the USSR as unnecessary.
Well, ours, remembering everything from 1917, awarded Ataman Krasnov with a rope. On January 16, 1947, at the age of 78, the former head of the Main Directorate of Cossack Forces of the Imperial Ministry of the Eastern Occupied Territories of Germany was hanged according to the sentence of the Supreme Court of the USSR.
Together with his associates.
Do you see a traitor here? Personally, I do not see. Ataman Krasnov did not betray anything to earn the title of traitor. It was an enemy. Yes, speaking with our ancestors in the same language, one, let's say, blood accessories, but - the enemy. He did not swear allegiance to our country, fiercely hated it, and fought with it to the last. And - a loser.
In principle, Krasnov was worthy of a bullet. As an officer of the enemy army. But as a Russian, who called and promoted the murders of Russians, - I'm sorry. But as a faithful and devoted servant of Hitler - even more so.
So if about the bullet I can still argue something like that, then regarding the monuments and the place in history - thank you.
The place for Krasnov is in the same place as, for example, the French pack of similar organisms that licked Hitler’s shoes with great pleasure and shot at their own citizens. It is worth remembering their names, we will return to them: Marcel Boukard Marcel (The French Movement), Jacques Doriot (The National People’s Party), Eugene Delonclés (The Social Revolutionary Movement), Pierre Clementi (The French National Unity Party) ) and Pierre Constantini (French League).
The place for such personalities is only there, next to Hitler. On the side of the losers in that war, in hell.
But Vlasov is a completely different matter.
Photos, sorry, will not be. And so the dirt spread in the article. Although ... This one. The best photo of Vlasov.
Agronomist-loser, who decided that the army is more satisfying and promising. Yes, the command courses went to Vlasov's benefit, he managed to fight with Denikin and Wrangel, which provided him with a good career in the army.
Vlasov was appreciated. And rated very well. Among those who spoke decently about him were Khrushchev and Zhukov. There were orders, posts, and all the rest that belonged to the general. And of course, everything was due from Vlasov: party membership card in his pocket, following the party's course, loyalty to the oath, and so on.
And, accordingly, the level of trust was quite right up to foreign trips and work as a military attaché in China.
And nothing? In fact, yes.
I agree that in the tragedy of Vlasov’s 2nd Army there are many points worth discussing, but they do not soften or justify what the commander of Vlasov did.
Well, Vlasov was too eager to rush to cooperate with the Germans. He too readily forgot about the fidelity of the party, the fidelity to the oath. Too - this is because even the Germans saw it. It is no secret that the German command wanted to see General Dmitry Karbyshev at the head of the ROA, but ... General Karbyshev was more firm in his actions than others in words.
And if you look thoughtfully, perhaps the Germans trusted the Cossacks of Krasnov more than the Vlasovites. And initially. For still, there is a difference between those who come to serve voluntarily in the name of some ideals and those recruited from concentration camps.
But here the question is precisely what Krasnov and Vlasov were people of a completely different sense. Yes, they met in the framework of the project to create KONR (a unified organization of Russian anti-Bolshevik forces), but they could not agree, which only confirms my message.
Although there was a common between them. But I do not set the goal of exploring in detail what united them, this is already understandable. Service to Hitler and the rope in the former homeland. Deserved rope, note.
So what's wrong?
But a lot is wrong.
Throughout his life, General Krasnov fiercely hated the Bolsheviks, who had created a new state on the ruins of the Russian Empire, which ataman Krasnov defended as he spared himself. Undoubtedly, right?
General Vlasov swore allegiance to the country that Krasnov so passionately wanted to destroy. But when it seemed to General Vlasov’s thin mental structure that things were incompatible with his concepts, he immediately did everything to be on the German side.
But even this could not be the end of history, in 1945, when the ridge of Germany was broken, Vlasov tried to negotiate with both the Americans and the Spaniards (with General Franco almost came out) for the next wholesale sale of ROA in good hands.
Krasnov, excuse me, stood to the end. A stubborn anti-communist on the one hand and an ordinary temporary defector on the other. Yes, it’s understandable why they couldn’t agree, the difference between them is too big.
And here it is very difficult to talk about betrayal. About treason.
Krasnov ... Krasnov was not a citizen of the USSR. He was not even a citizen of the RSFSR from which the Soviet Union was born. Krasnov immediately became a citizen of Germany from a citizen of Tsarist Russia.
Do we have claims of such a plan against Manstein? To Guderian? Weihsu? No. These are ordinary enemies. Krasnov, perhaps, is comparable with Mannerheim, which is similar in that it is also rooted in the Russian Empire and also tried to fight. Mannerheim was more fortunate, for some reason he did not go to court at all.
And Vlasov? And for Vlasov, I also have an analogy. Yes, and in the German camp there was one like that ... Everyone already understood who they were talking about. That's right, Friedrich Wilhelm Ernst Paulus, Field Marshal, who also really wanted to live.
Yes, I got such a couple. Both faithfully served their country, both went to the enemy camp, becoming "fighters with the regime." Yes, Paulus was useful and beneficial to us, but not his radio broadcast and signature on the flyers were fatal for Germany.
In essence, both are traitors and sworn nobodies.
And now we come to the most interesting part. To the conclusion.
Mr. Kiselev put Krasnov on a par with those who seemingly deserve a monument, that is, memory.
Excuse me, Mr. Kiselev, not in this Russia. In this Russia, you can calmly take to the streets of cities and ask the question “Who is General Krasnov” to everyone in a row in the age category of 15 to 40 years. I am sure that the answer will be one: “And who knows!”
In fairness, the same can be said about Frunze and Blucher.
These people, first of all, through the efforts of our government, which is trying by all means to turn the younger generations into degenerates with the help of the insanely wretched school curriculum on history, have sunk into oblivion.
General Krasnov is the enemy. Normal and honest enemy. Enemies do not have monuments, Mr. Kiselev!
The fact that our authorities opened a memorial plaque to Mannerheim is, excuse me, speaks only about the lack of education from the former Minister of Education. But here it is absolutely normal business.
The fact that today the power mouthpiece on the main television channel says that it is necessary to erect monuments to enemies, by the way, without embarrassing, is also normal.
In a state where there is no ideology at all, everything is possible.
However, following the monument to Krasnov ... By the way, who will we bow to on an alternative basis? Mentioned Manstein? Keitel? Or all at once, why trifle? Or…
I repeat: they don’t put monuments to the enemies. An enemy, especially a defeated one in a heavy battle, can and should be respected. But do not honor and remember when erecting monuments.
Out of respect, General Krasnov deserved a bullet, not a rope. This is, as it were, my opinion, based on the above evidence. But so it turned out that the rope ... Rehabilitate Hitler's servant due to the fact that they were not executed correctly? Well, perhaps this is too much.
General Vlasov, Judah, who betrayed his homeland exclusively for a well-fed and rich life, received what he was supposed to receive. The above twisted or twisted, natural fiber product. Legally and unconditionally.
And no nonsense disguised as a “struggle with the regime”. Traitors in general must be deleted from history.
The fact that in our country they are increasingly dragged out of the darkness of history is, of course, sad. Alas, this is our everyday routine. How dear we are today, not everyone understands. But the fact that she is, to put it mildly, crooked, is already clear and understandable today.
Tomorrow we will erect a monument to the enemy, even the former compatriot, and the day after tomorrow we will honor Judas, the traitor and the traitor.
Decent alignment for the "Great Russia", which the whole world owes, is not it?