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Destroy, you can’t sell. USA get rid of food

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Source: smakosze.pl


The grimaces of capitalism


The food destruction process is not an American idea. When developed countries saved their hunger, excess food was often destroyed. Naturally, this caused a resonance in society. In Russia, as you know, the outrage has not prevented the destruction of more than 32 thousand tons of sanctioned food products of animal and vegetable origin over the past four years. These steps, at first glance barbaric, have a serious economic justification.

Firstly, this is done because it is “not allowed”: at the legislative level, sanctions products are prohibited in Russia. Secondly, the state takes care of the stability of the domestic market: smuggled goods can lower prices for similar products, and this is a threat to employment and income levels. Even the French are not averse sometimes to destroy the exquisite delicacies of their own production, protesting against the import of foreign counterparts.

The situation is very similar to the energy market with the existing cartel conspiracy of leading oil producers. In both cases, a reduction in supply leads to an increase in the value of the goods. Moreover, not only food products go under the knife. So, in April 2014, the Belgians destroyed 1,5 tons of smuggled ivory in protest against poachers. And, of course, seriously raised the price of this product on the black market. In Singapore, the skin of lizards and pythons is regularly destroyed at customs. Five years ago, Indonesia became famous for the destruction of several tens of thousands of medicines and cosmetics.

The second reason for the destruction of smuggled, or, as in the case of Russia, sanctioned goods, may be a failure to comply with sanitary and epidemiological standards. Clandestinely imported meat, dairy products or, for example, canned goods may well cause mass poisoning, and sometimes outbreaks of infectious diseases.

Corruption can be attributed to the list of reasons for the refusal of most countries to distribute to the poor products to be destroyed. It turns out that it’s much easier to dump hundreds of kilograms of poaching caviar than to give local officials the right to distribute products. Who will guarantee that in the future this will not become part of the shadow business?

Destroy, you can’t sell. USA get rid of food

Source: lenta.ru

One of the first in stories US officials from the time of the Great Depression decided to destroy food. At the same time, in one part of the state people stood in line for a free lunch, and in another part of the farmers poured tons of milk into the ground. This, incidentally, was legally regulated: in the United States since 1933, the government purchased from farmers meat and vegetables for subsequent destruction. Also, the reduction of sown areas was encouraged in every way. Farmer Assistance Program (Agricultural Adjustment Act) - the so-called Franklin Roosevelt initiative to mitigate the effects of the overproduction crisis. Grain, for example, could simply be taken out into the ocean and dumped into the water. At the same time, even at food recycling points, half-starved Americans were not allowed to replenish scarce food supplies. John Steinbeck writes in the novel “Bunches of Wrath”:
“This is a crime that has no name. This is grief that cannot be measured by any tears. This is a defeat that crushes all our successes to dust. Fertile land, straight rows of trees, strong trunks and juicy fruits. And children dying from pellagra must die, because oranges do not bring profit. And investigators should issue certificates: death as a result of malnutrition, because food must rot, because it is rotted intentionally. People come with nets to catch potatoes from the river, but the guards drive them away; they arrive in rattling cars for discarded oranges, but kerosene has already done its job. And they stand in a daze and look at the potatoes floating by, hear the screech of pigs, which they cut and fill with lime in the ditches, look at the orange mountains, on which the landslides of the fetid slush come down; and in the eyes of people defeat; anger is ripening in the eyes of the hungry ... "



Source: cont.ws

In those days, tough economic interests prevailed over humanism - in 1933, the government immediately bought 6 million pigs for extermination. As a result, the famine of the Great Depression really became great and claimed several million lives. At the same time, the population had practically no cash, for which they could easily purchase food for themselves. As a result, purchase prices fell, and farmers, without prompting from the government, independently poured milk into the ditch. Now the world is ruled by a coronavirus and it seems that the troubled times of the 30s of the last century are returning to the United States.

The Phantom of the Great Depression


American life has stood still, and so far, even approximate dates for the restoration of previous activity are not visible. If earlier optimism was at least somehow charged with expressions like: “Quarantine is not always forever - it will someday pass”, now there are more and more votes for everyone to have a new life with fanatical observance of hygiene standards. For Americans, the ghost of the Great Depression seems to be adding to the new reality. As you know, the more highly developed a country is, the smaller the percentage of citizens eating at home. Just because it is much easier to go to a cafe, restaurant, eatery and replenish the balance of carbohydrates, fats and proteins than to cook at home. Yes, and the second half in the families of highly developed countries often work, and they just do not have time for the kitchen. In the US, with their traditional gigantic consumption of fast food, this process has been squared. And that’s it: public catering was closed, schools and universities with canteens are also in quarantine, and the most powerful agriculture continues to saturate the country with food. In total, consumption fell almost twice. The inertia is such that the excess of meat, milk, vegetables and fruits must be destroyed. Now every day in the USA they pour almost 14 million liters of milk on the fields, into the sewers, or simply into the nearest ditches! If in the near future the coronavirus does not recede and the government does not weaken quarantine, farmers threaten to reduce the number of cattle. And these are already long-term crisis phenomena, which after the pandemic will be tangible for more than one year. Accustomed to a comfortable life, American inhabitants may not understand the serious jump in prices for dairy products and meat. The situation with vegetables and fruits is also not going well - many producers are forced to "return to the earth" hundreds of tons of crop crops.


Source: mizez.com

At the same time, the pandemic inflicts another blow to the US agriculture - employees of many farms and processing enterprises are infected. So, Tyson Foods, the largest meat producer in Iowa, went to quarantine. This giant processed 19,5 thousand pigs per day. At the end of April, about 15% of all meat processing enterprises in the industry in the USA for various reasons stopped their work. In conditions of decreasing demand and, consequently, lower profits, it is unprofitable for farmers to feed pigs further, hoping for an improvement in the situation, and thousands of animals go for slaughter. The American conveyor of consumption was so dependent on the appetite of the population that capacities for preserving products were not provided. Neither refrigeration units are enough (many of them were generally converted to store the bodies of victims of COVID-19), nor production facilities for the production of long-term storage products. But even in these cases, storage of agricultural products will cost a lot of money. In the USA, there were precedents when manufacturers were forced to pay extra to the client for the sale of goods, if only to free storage. Recall the situation with the negative cost of oil. The problem is also that it is difficult for Americans to offer their products for export - the labor costs in the United States are rather high and the third world countries, which would not refuse food even now, simply cannot afford it. Therefore, farm products are used up.


Source: agronews.com

I must say that the Trump government did respond and allocated about $ 3 billion to purchase surplus products from farmers. The decision, of course, is not in the spirit of Franklin Roosevelt, but now none of the politicians wants to face tens, or even hundreds of thousands of unemployed after the pandemic. In the future, the purchased products are planned to be redistributed among those in need in the country. True, they were late with measures for a month and a half: the process of destruction (and, accordingly, the reduction of workers) is in full swing. Of course, Trump, moving away from the crisis, will begin to pump in his agricultural producers with billions of dollars, hoping for an early recovery of the economy. But money is unlikely to help quickly restore the breeding stock of cows and pigs, especially since in neighboring countries and Europe the situation is also developing according to a negative scenario. Russia, for example, is stopping the export of wheat, and Canadian farmers, following the example of their southern neighbors, also began massively pouring milk into dung heaps and slaughtering cattle. In the future, there will be nowhere to buy fresh livestock, and the country will inevitably face a rise in price of products, and, probably, with their acute shortage.

The ghost of the Great Depression seems to have come to Europe. So, in France, Italy and Spain, due to a serious decline in demand, winemakers plan to distill their products into alcohol, which, in turn, will become the basis for disinfecting sanitizers. At the same time, manufacturers, as well as in the USA, call restaurants, bars and cafes closed for many weeks as the main reason for the decline in demand. Despite the fact that Europeans began to drink more alcohol at home, the general trend of reducing consumption (by 30%) makes winemakers think about eliminating stocks of products. In the most optimistic version, the wine will go to the mentioned sanitizers. New times - new food trends.
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  1. tihonmarine
    tihonmarine 4 May 2020 09: 06 New
    45
    In those days, tough economic interests prevailed over humanism - in 1933, the government immediately bought 6 million pigs for extermination. As a result, the famine of the Great Depression really became great and claimed several million lives.
    Human life in capitalism, which used to be worthless, is now. But they don’t see logs in their eyes, and in a stranger’s eyes they have been examining a mote for 100 years.
    1. Ilya-spb
      Ilya-spb 4 May 2020 09: 16 New
      24
      There he is, the bestial grin of capitalism!

      There is nothing more subtle for a peasant than the destruction of his labors!

      A billion are starving in the world. UN asks for help ... for starving foods! Here they are, products! No, I feel sorry for them ... the law of the market, the law of capitalism!

      I was impressed by the story of the history of famine in the Russian Empire, when peasants walked to neighboring villages ... and asked for bread crumbs! And they were given. Pieces, crumbs. Knowing that they themselves may be in the same position.
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      2. Ivan Ivanov_25
        Ivan Ivanov_25 4 May 2020 18: 16 New
        -21
        In the United States pay, it's time you know. and private firms are not required to feed anyone for no reason. the state of building armats where the population does not eat up should worry about the standard of living.
        1. Sergey Samkov
          Sergey Samkov 5 May 2020 12: 29 New
          +8
          And about the aircraft carriers and the F-35, what, crap crap?
          1. Shurik70
            Shurik70 5 May 2020 21: 07 New
            +1
            And how can one not recall that in Russia, too, Swiss cheeses, Polish apples, and other products that are smuggled are DESTROYED. Quality food.
            Although they could give out to orphans, or send humanitarian aid to the Donbass.
            DESTROY THE FOOD WHEN THE PEOPLE ARE HUNGERING THROUGHOUT THE WORLD - CRIME
            In Russia, the triumph of capitalism is the same as in the USA.
      3. Pilat2009
        Pilat2009 5 May 2020 14: 51 New
        0
        Quote: Ilya-spb
        UN asks for help ... for hunger products

        Well, not only do the products have to be given away, they still need to be shipped, brought and handed out. And it’s all worth the money. So you think we have stores doing what with products that are running out of time?
      4. fider
        fider 5 May 2020 18: 02 New
        0
        Ilya-spb (Ilya)
        `` Here it is, the savage grin of capitalism! ''
        Do you mean socialism, or is it communism? tongue laughing
        1. Alexander I
          Alexander I 6 May 2020 10: 39 New
          0
          It's hard to say what we have. Last year, collective farmers planted potatoes, but they didn’t have enough strength to harvest, so then they trumpeted everywhere the fields and what you can dig potatoes as much as you need. It's funny, but this year the governor gave the task to increase the area under crops, there will be a headache in the spring.
    2. knn54
      knn54 4 May 2020 10: 05 New
      17
      I recommend EVERYONE to read The Grapes of Wrath by John Steinbeck.
    3. Civil
      Civil 4 May 2020 10: 31 New
      +3
      News from the USA is very important and interesting.
    4. Megatron
      Megatron 4 May 2020 16: 12 New
      10
      We have already been told that oil will be burned, but for citizens, fuel and lubricants will not drop a ruble and cheap gas will not be allowed into the country, all the charm of our regime.
      1. Pilat2009
        Pilat2009 5 May 2020 14: 52 New
        -1
        Quote: Megatron
        We have already been told that oil will be burned

        The problem is that there’s nowhere to store it. And wells canning is also a lot of money
        1. Jager
          Jager 5 May 2020 19: 11 New
          +2
          There are storages. They are afraid of profit.
    5. Campanella
      Campanella 5 May 2020 11: 05 New
      +4
      That's for sure, in VO is full of swineherds of capitalism. They dig day and night with their snout the Soviet past in search of decay.
    6. Sergey49
      Sergey49 5 May 2020 13: 22 New
      -2
      Yes, the grimace of capitalism.
      As for me, it is better for the capitalists to buy from the peasant than the Communists take away for free.
    7. Joseph Bischoff
      Joseph Bischoff 5 May 2020 13: 54 New
      -8
      it was good in this regard in "Sovdepia". They took everything from the peasants, every grain of it. The grain was exported to the "west". Those peasants who did not starve to death were sent to camps. They left a little and they became slaves, literally, of the Bolshevik government. The initiative was taken from them and a plan was introduced, where, what and how much to grow. In this form, overproduction is impossible, and the fact that everyone lived almost equally badly can't seem to upset you. I do not want to justify the actions of the capitalists, but this is your statement "But in their own eye they do not see the beam," I just laughed. And also about the cost of human life. How many were destroyed by the Bolsheviks simply as a class. At least the same peasants whom they called “kulaks”. In conquering power, they destroyed many just because they were literate. And then they accused the "tsar" of the illiterate "Russia", completely forgetting for what the nobility complained to the father of Lenin's goat ... So your anger at the "capitalists" is based on your intellectual weakness in the competitive struggle. It's good for you only to be in the army at the lower ranks. The commander is responsible for everything.
      1. Sergey Averchenkov
        Sergey Averchenkov 5 May 2020 15: 44 New
        +4
        Wanted to the stable? What would you flog there? Forgot what is a master? Ugh ...
      2. Jager
        Jager 5 May 2020 19: 13 New
        +3
        Liberals immediately scorch on the details. The liberals overthrew the tsar) And they exported grain, because it was necessary to raise industry, and where to get the money? Then there was no gas pipe.
  2. Keyser soze
    Keyser soze 4 May 2020 09: 11 New
    +2
    The whole article, such analogies, and the author forgot to say that the products in Shchat are destroyed because the supply chains have collapsed. Due to coronavirus quarantine. That's the whole drama there.
    1. sabakina
      sabakina 4 May 2020 09: 39 New
      26
      Eugene, I’d fill a tank of gasoline at the last penny and go for free food, because you won’t drink gas, and your stomach won’t understand eating cut paper. So the interrupted supply chain has nothing to do with it.
      1. Malyuta
        Malyuta 4 May 2020 10: 55 New
        +1
        Quote: sabakina
        I’d fill up a tank of gasoline for the last pence and go for free food,

        And there you don’t have to go anywhere, you have to go.
      2. Mikhail m
        Mikhail m 4 May 2020 10: 56 New
        13
        In the Krasnodar Territory, radishes are being harvested, nowhere to go. No one is going. And this, I think, is just the beginning.
        1. Malyuta
          Malyuta 4 May 2020 12: 00 New
          16
          Quote: Mikhail M
          In the Krasnodar Territory, radishes are being harvested, nowhere to go. No one is going. And this, I think, is just the beginning.

          Of course, now it’s more profitable for managers to buy in Israel, in our Oshan, the Israeli radish is as much as 62 rubles per 500 grams.
          We’ll buy our bury from Israel, the girls are fucking awesome.
          1. Ivan Ivanov_25
            Ivan Ivanov_25 4 May 2020 18: 20 New
            -20
            Krasnodar doesn’t need agricultural goods to anyone, because they will not buy any Auchan and other networks only in the summer, the networks generally work all year round and they need radishes and apples all year round, and not just in the summer. here vodka production russia there all year round. Now it’s clear what such unfinished farming was growing?
          2. Non liberoid Russian
            Non liberoid Russian 5 May 2020 08: 42 New
            -1
            for example, I will buy where it is profitable and cheaper for me, and not where the soul of "patriots" wants
        2. Ilya-spb
          Ilya-spb 4 May 2020 14: 22 New
          0
          I love radish salad.
      3. Keyser soze
        Keyser soze 4 May 2020 11: 21 New
        -6
        Eugene, for the last pence I would fill a tank of gasoline ...


        Vyacheslav, why go if the refrigerator is full and the store also has a lot of things? Go pour over 500 km. two tons of milk? And what will I do ... :))

        It’s just that the author has thickened so that my mother does not cry. Sucked out of a finger. I read a serious economic analysis about a break in the economic chains in Shchaty and in Europe, which made it difficult to sell agricultural products. But Europe is already opening and everything will be restored before 1-2 weeks. In Shchaty, I also think they will decide.

        So to hunger, such as the Great Depression is very far away.
        1. Non liberoid Russian
          Non liberoid Russian 5 May 2020 08: 44 New
          -7
          and here the european drew with his teachings
        2. Oyo Sarkazmi
          Oyo Sarkazmi 5 May 2020 12: 58 New
          0
          Quote: Keyser Soze
          So to hunger, such as the Great Depression is very far away.

          Oh, don't. There was the USSR, and suddenly it was gone. People stopped paying pensions. And pensioners were starving. I saw it myself.
          This is South Kazakhstan, if you stick a stick in the ground, grapes will grow. But ... People are accustomed to care, and they themselves did not move. And it is unlikely that in Bulgarian cities people will run to the fields if there is nothing to eat.
    2. Olgovich
      Olgovich 4 May 2020 09: 47 New
      -8
      Quote: Keyser Soze
      The whole article, such analogies, and the author forgot to say that the products in Shchat are destroyed because the supply chains have collapsed. Due to coronavirus quarantine. That's the whole drama there.

      But the author did not forget to say about the alleged millions of Americans who died of starvation.

      Having made such a loud statement, he did not bring, at the same time, ANY DOCUMENT to confirm this fiction

      Even in the USSR, they were ashamed to write .......
      1. Snail N9
        Snail N9 4 May 2020 10: 21 New
        0
        "Destroy" .... Somehow everyone has already forgotten about "Bush's legs", but here I remember them well, they helped my family survive in the 90s ....
        1. sabakina
          sabakina 4 May 2020 10: 27 New
          24
          Of course they helped, after they destroyed their poultry farming with a shout from overseas! At the same time, our blue chicken was more natural than the pumped up biceps of "Bush's legs"!
          1. KCA
            KCA 4 May 2020 11: 14 New
            18
            When I see a "blue" chicken now, I grab it right away. this is a brood hen that laid fertilized eggs for incubators, they are very closely monitored, they are not stuffed with hormones, steroids and antibiotics, they live long until they stop rushing, here they are under the knife, yes, the meat is tough, it takes a long time to cook, but then soup turns out - not a single broiler stood nearby
            1. ANB
              ANB 5 May 2020 00: 11 New
              +2
              1. "Blue" chicken is a layer, not a broiler
              2. If a broiler is fed longer, it will also be tough and rich. Only very healthy.
              3. Non-blue chicken legs are broiler chickens. The meat is tender, but there is no fat. You can also compare beef and veal.
              4. There are a lot of antibiotics in the bush’s legs, in our modern legs they are not there.
          2. Kleber
            Kleber 4 May 2020 14: 18 New
            -1
            Quote: sabakina
            Of course they helped, after they destroyed their poultry farming with a shout from overseas! At the same time, our blue chicken was more natural than the pumped up biceps of "Bush's legs"!


            Destroyed, of course, not without "friends" from overseas, but the main problem was not that. Poultry farms simply ceased to be profitable and their products for the vast majority of the population turned out to be too heavy for the family budget. And what were the salaries and how many months they were delayed not for me to explain to you. Therefore, cheap American chicken legs simply swept our poultry farms out of the market due to their non-competitiveness. To give credit, some of our poultry farms survived. But by what means? There were few options, only two.
            1) They began to pump the chicken with harmonics for fast growth.
            2) They simply bought imported chicken and repackaged it as their own brand.
            So, while eating "blue chicken" you ate the same as "Bush's legs", but more expensive.

            PySy: real antibiotic-free chicken in Russia and now can only be bought in the village from a local grandmother.
            1. AnderS
              AnderS 6 May 2020 11: 05 New
              0
              Destroyed, of course, not without "friends" from overseas, but the main problem was not that. Poultry farms simply ceased to be profitable and their products for the vast majority of the population turned out to be too heavy for the family budget.

              Yes? Cost effective? But is it not because they ceased to be profitable because the Russian market was actually opened for foreign goods? Are customs duties actually reduced to zero? Maybe if barrage duties are introduced, as the United States is now doing against Chinese goods, then the profitability of domestic poultry farming will increase? In exactly the same way, a whole bunch of industries in Russia were also ruined, the same civilian aircraft industry ...
          3. Interlocutor
            Interlocutor 5 May 2020 15: 00 New
            +2
            Yes, everything is fine now with a chicken in the country - do not stomp your legs in the nineties. This is a separate layer of our country’s time. Who knew that it was possible to buy out the enterprise and close it in a couple of months. Now, if this happens again in droves, this will be the enemy’s face to do. For he knows and does.
          4. for
            for 5 May 2020 15: 47 New
            0
            Quote: sabakina
            Of course they helped, after they destroyed their

            Maybe by the cry of the west, but destroyed OUR!
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      2. AllBiBek
        AllBiBek 4 May 2020 10: 39 New
        +2
        We drive the request "demermerization in the USA" into Google, read their official statistics for the period.

        You are just like a little ...
        1. Olgovich
          Olgovich 4 May 2020 11: 03 New
          -11
          Quote: AllBiBek
          We drive the request "demermerization in the USA" into Google, read their official statistics for the period.

          You are just like a little ...

          Hammered and .... NOTHING.

          And the official statistics are NO extra. death does not indicate.

          Like Soviet journalists, diplomats, intelligence officers, scientists, politicians, they didn’t see anything, they didn’t know and didn’t count.,

          Bredyatina about the millions of dead Americans in the 1930s was born only .... 12 years ago - before that, the United States themselves did not suspect millions of dead, nor in the USSR, not anywhere else.

          although she really liked the bankrupt in whom it was in reality. .
          1. AllBiBek
            AllBiBek 4 May 2020 11: 29 New
            +7
            What you call "nonsense" is the work of Borisov, and he was well buried in the sources there.

            Although the basis there is the work of Gelbraith, he is a very, very large American researcher with a normal profile education, and he worked in hot pursuit.

            He also has statistics and a factual selection of American socialists from the early 30s, such as BolI and Lann.

            Believe me, this is a topic that you can dig long and thoughtfully even openly.

            But, apparently, you had enough debriefing according to Borisov (and he has sociological calculations - already according to the methods of Auguste Comte, this is the founder of sociology in the materiel of his time), and - here it is, a classic of the genre. "You don't know anything, but I know everything, I read a little criticism of one of dozens of researchers in Yandex-Zen at lunch."
            1. Olgovich
              Olgovich 4 May 2020 11: 59 New
              -11
              Quote: AllBiBek
              What you call "nonsense" is the work of Borisov, and he was well buried in the sources there.

              the chicken digs well too - in heaps of manure ...
              Quote: AllBiBek
              He also has statistics and a factual selection of American socialists from the early 30s, such as BolI and Lann.

              Believe me, this is a topic that you can dig long and thoughtfully even openly.

              75 years NOBODY about millions of deceased amers-did not know and did not suspect.

              Including and they themselves. To hide the death of millions of starving people is impossible. even the USSR could not.

              Therefore, all the pathetic attempts of those. in which in a few months 32-33g people died of starvation at times more than in all the years of the World War, they are absurd and miserable.
              Quote: AllBiBek
              But, apparently, the analysis of flights according to Borisov was enough for you (and he has sociological calculations - already for methods Auguste Comtenewa supporter of sociology on the materiel of his time), and - here it is, a classic of the genre. "You don't know anything, but I know everything, I read a little criticism of one of dozens of researchers in Yandex-Zen at lunch."

              I didn’t give a damn about his "calculations" - present the primary documents of the US police, governors, funerals, witnesses.
              Here is one like this, where everything is clear and clear:
              YEY DISTRICT. The village Dolzhanskaya - 22 / II, the food aid commission, having examined, established that gr. G **** had eaten the corpse of her dead sister’s owl.

              In the same village it was established that group D ***, remaining after the death of his father and mother with young sisters and brothers, ate the meat of brothers and sisters who died of starvation.

              Station Novo-Shcherbinovskaya. In the 3rd brigade of the collective farm, the wife of E *** hacked to death and "ate her 3-year-old child,

              In the 3rd brigade, the wife of the convict C *** drags the corpses of children from the cemetery and eats them.


              find-let's talk about "calculations"
      3. carstorm 11
        carstorm 11 4 May 2020 10: 44 New
        -6
        American statistics are a peculiar thing. Well, the scale of deaths can be reasoned by simply comparing it, for example, with 90 years in our country.
      4. d ^ Amir
        d ^ Amir 4 May 2020 10: 48 New
        +3
        and very much not "supposedly" ... we are talking about the period of the great depression
      5. Keyser soze
        Keyser soze 4 May 2020 11: 25 New
        +1
        But the author did not forget to say about the alleged millions of Americans who died of starvation.


        I would say that even several billion died, which is trifling ... laughing
        1. carstorm 11
          carstorm 11 4 May 2020 15: 34 New
          10
          in the nineties in Russia, the mortality rate was such that it was scary to even remember. why did you decide that in the states at that time of the crisis it was less?
          1. vindigo
            vindigo 4 May 2020 19: 07 New
            0
            Mom worked in the dining room. There was access to products. She once paid a job for a hairdresser. Then after the 2000s she met this hairdresser, she thanked my mother, said that this chicken saved her family from starvation. My military husband was not paid anything, he also earned little, there was nothing to feed the children.
      6. NordUral
        NordUral 4 May 2020 19: 33 New
        12
        And in the USSR they didn’t lie about the States, Andrei. Unlike the United States about us. Both then and now.
        1. Olgovich
          Olgovich 4 May 2020 19: 46 New
          -5
          Quote: NordUral
          And in the USSR they didn’t lie about the States, Andrei.

          Say, did not finish.
          Quote: NordUral
          Unlike the United States about us. Both then and now.

          And here I agree, almost completely.
          1. NordUral
            NordUral 4 May 2020 19: 47 New
            +6
            But in fact - everyone spoke correctly. Only now they lied to us, especially in the 80s.
    3. NEXUS
      NEXUS 4 May 2020 11: 58 New
      +5
      Quote: Keyser Soze
      The whole article, such analogies, and the author forgot to say that the products in Shchat are destroyed because the supply chains have collapsed. Due to coronavirus quarantine. That's the whole drama there.

      Food before the epidemic in the United States and not only destroyed by thousands of tons. At the same time, in the same Africa, there are tribes who eat something like pancakes ... made of clay.
      1. Keyser soze
        Keyser soze 4 May 2020 14: 03 New
        +2
        Food before the epidemic in the United States and not only destroyed by thousands of tons. At the same time, in the same Africa, there are tribes who eat something like pancakes ... made of clay.


        This is exactly the case. We raised food production, but there were no fewer dying of hunger. The same thing with today's flu - an economic recession in which everyone is driven will kill hundreds of thousands in Africa, but for developed countries, to say nothing of the inhabitants there. Neoliberalism - it is necessary to remove it everywhere.
    4. krops777
      krops777 4 May 2020 15: 01 New
      0
      The whole article, such analogies, and the author forgot to say that the products in Shchat are destroyed because the supply chains have collapsed


      And what prevents Africa from helping, and there are few countries where the population is starving, ours are not far away either, which prevented the sanction from redirecting our frank stupidity to Nazi and the EU in the Donbass.
  3. rocket757
    rocket757 4 May 2020 09: 12 New
    0
    Everything is rolling in a circle!
    Nothing new .....
    1. Kuroneko
      Kuroneko 4 May 2020 11: 43 New
      +5
      Quote: rocket757
      Nothing new .....

      How to say...
      So, in April 2014, the Belgians destroyed 1,5 tons of smuggled ivory in protest against poachers.

      Here it - quite an original and new approach to protect nature. More precisely, to its enhanced destruction. Well, if you were on the spot of a poacher who didn’t get his loot for tusks, what would you do?
      Correctly. They would begin to mine tusks with a doubled energy and scale, so that at least one party slipped unnoticed and brought a long-awaited profit.
      I'm talking about those Belgians who made that decision. It will not be resurrected of killed elephants, but it will definitely contribute to much larger-scale shooting of these. For it is necessary to fight not with the effect, but with the cause. But the Belgians do not care, they have no elephants. And they do not catch poachers in the jungle / savannah. A convenient position - we show what we are right, protesting, and do not care that the poor animals in a distant country because of this, is truly European right positionwill be killed at times more often.
      = _ =
      1. rocket757
        rocket757 4 May 2020 11: 52 New
        +3
        Quote: Kuroneko
        For it is necessary to fight not with the consequence, but with the cause

        The reason to fight is much, much more complicated and expensive !!!
        Everything has long been known how and what to do, BUT, things are still there.
        A public relations campaign, everyone knows how to do it! The effect is zero, but the participants are pleased.
        1. Kuroneko
          Kuroneko 4 May 2020 11: 54 New
          +3
          Quote: rocket757
          The effect is zero, but the participants are pleased.

          It is especially pleasant when something is no less pleasantly rustling in the wallet after such an action.
          Or someone naively thinks they are being destroyed EVERYTHING smuggled / sanctioned?
          Of, say, 40 tons of jamon - all 40 tons?
          The tractor will bury all the tracks, hih. = 3
          1. rocket757
            rocket757 4 May 2020 12: 39 New
            +2
            As Zhvanetsky said - do you want something to have? Go protect it, ban it, etc.
      2. NordUral
        NordUral 4 May 2020 19: 36 New
        +4
        For it is necessary to fight not with the effect, but with the cause.

        Interestingly, what is this reason? Pandemic? Or maybe a market economy and capitalism? For me - so the second.
  4. gabonskijfront
    gabonskijfront 4 May 2020 09: 13 New
    +5
    If now we are on the eve of the "great depression." then a world war awaits us, iron logic. Capitalism does not know how to get out of structural crises in another way.
    1. Pavel57
      Pavel57 4 May 2020 10: 22 New
      +2
      An attempt to overcome the crisis through a pandemic.
    2. AllBiBek
      AllBiBek 4 May 2020 11: 31 New
      -1
      And what about us at once?
      Why not China?
      The main production facilities, coupled with a bundle of geopolitical ambitions, are with him, and de jure the Communists in power are also there.
    3. NordUral
      NordUral 4 May 2020 19: 38 New
      +5
      Hardly. But to reduce the number of hicks around the world, not excluding us, by the way, they will try in various "civilized" ways.
  5. Pvi1206
    Pvi1206 4 May 2020 09: 19 New
    0
    it turns out where the dog rummaged ...
  6. Gardamir
    Gardamir 4 May 2020 09: 22 New
    +3
    You see, mister author! We do not live in the Soviet Union. In bourgeois Russia, food is also being destroyed, especially with pride they began to crush food for show when the Crimea was filled up.
    so the article is "nothing". Do not write about others when you are the same. And so in everything.
    1. NDR-791
      NDR-791 4 May 2020 09: 34 New
      +6
      Now the world is ruled by a coronavirus and it seems that the troubled times of the 30s of the last century are returning to the United States.
      Really. The same thing is happening here. For example, as soon as the demand for meat falls in chain stores (for various reasons) in several areas they quarantine for some bestial sore, set up posts and shake cars without exception. Meaning? You won’t buy pork in the market for 220 rubles. and you’ll go to the tape or the subway and buy there for 400.
    2. Lopatov
      Lopatov 4 May 2020 09: 42 New
      +1
      Quote: Gardamir
      when they brought Crimea.

      Nice ...
      1. Gardamir
        Gardamir 4 May 2020 10: 13 New
        0
        Have a nice one you too.
        1. Lopatov
          Lopatov 4 May 2020 11: 42 New
          -2
          Question: Are you from Ukraine, or are you using training manuals there?
          For such a negative attitude towards the reunification of Crimea with Russia is difficult to explain with anything else ..

          Oh, I got it ...
          You are from Moscow. And furious that money is being spent on some Crimea, and not on you?
          1. Kleber
            Kleber 4 May 2020 14: 36 New
            +2
            Quote: Spade

            Oh, I got it ...
            You are from Moscow. And furious that money is being spent on some Crimea, and not on you?


            Excuse me, but what kind of money spent on Crimea would be spent on an ordinary resident of Moscow? Or do you really think that if it weren’t for the Crimea, the tram driver in Moscow would have received more money than his salary?
            1. Lopatov
              Lopatov 4 May 2020 17: 54 New
              +1
              Quote: Kleber
              Excuse me, but what kind of money spent on Crimea would be spent on an ordinary resident of Moscow?

              And you ask Gardamir.
              Forever dissatisfied with the fact that money is not spent on him.
              1. Kleber
                Kleber 4 May 2020 17: 57 New
                +1
                Quote: Spade
                Quote: Kleber
                Excuse me, but what kind of money spent on Crimea would be spent on an ordinary resident of Moscow?

                And you ask Gardamir.
                Forever dissatisfied with the fact that money is not spent on him.


                Is Moscow also in Ukraine? Did not know.

                But I was solely responsible for Moscow (which is in Russia)
                1. Lopatov
                  Lopatov 4 May 2020 18: 00 New
                  +3
                  Quote: Kleber
                  Is Moscow also in Ukraine?

                  "Vukraine" for Moscow?
                  Look down, dear, look down ... laughing laughing laughing
                  1. Kleber
                    Kleber 4 May 2020 18: 03 New
                    0
                    Lopatov, that’s kind of a smart and respected person, but what are you trying to show me the game now? Did you even understand?
                    1. Lopatov
                      Lopatov 4 May 2020 18: 04 New
                      +4
                      Quote: Kleber
                      but what are you trying to show me the game now?

                      The strange phrase "in Ukraine"
                      We do not write like that in Russia.
                      1. Kleber
                        Kleber 4 May 2020 18: 12 New
                        0
                        We have two options: in Ukraine and in Ukraine. Both are writing. What the right one has not yet figured out.
                      2. New Year day
                        New Year day 4 May 2020 22: 38 New
                        -3
                        Quote: Kleber
                        What the right one has not yet figured out.

                      3. Kleber
                        Kleber 4 May 2020 23: 02 New
                        +5
                        I apologize. Did I miss something. Are you a linguist at the epicenter of scientific thought? Or another doctor working at the epicenter of the coronavius ​​epidemic, as previously stated?
                        So that's what a linguist, there are over 700 dialects of the Russian language in Russia. And the Kostroma dialect differs from the Samara dialect very much. Therefore, only Mr. Zhirinovsky knows how correctly in our country (this is humor). So put this picture in the "Humor" section and don't show it to anyone else.

                        Better take care of the sick. Yesterday I saw a district doctor. Unshaven, tired, he doesn’t care about the mask, his eyes are alienated .... he has been running calls for a month at a temperature .... he doesn’t say that he works at the epicenter (he knows that there are worse places), but he’s sure to write on the Internet he won’t climb ... he should get enough sleep at least 4 hours.
  • AllBiBek
    AllBiBek 4 May 2020 10: 42 New
    +1
    For a year, crush 32 thousand tons of foreign sanctions of incomprehensible quality and turbid origin - and daily destroy millions of liters of first-class milk in your own food industry and bury a freshly slaughtered livestock by thousands of heads - is that a little different, don't you find?
  • Malyuta
    Malyuta 4 May 2020 10: 58 New
    +6
    Quote: Gardamir
    so the article is "nothing". Do not write about others when you are the same. And so in everything.

    And this is not an article, this is military propaganda, they say, endure the inhabitants, because all over the world it is bad.
  • Olgovich
    Olgovich 4 May 2020 12: 51 New
    -5
    Quote: Gardamir
    when zashashili Crimea.

    what a disgusting Russophobic trick ... negative
    1. Gardamir
      Gardamir 4 May 2020 13: 05 New
      0
      Who and Mr. Lopatov, who prevented the return of the Donbass, Kharkov? Or are you going to tell me tales about Nikita! I was one of the first to pronounce Novorossia, and where is it all, now slurred LDNR. Crimea was stolen, trying to play by the rules of their partners and please partners. Either Crimea is really ours, or Sberbank is more important than Russia.
      So I’m just for the Russian World, where not only Crimea, but all Russian lands are ours again!
      1. AlexanderS
        AlexanderS 4 May 2020 23: 31 New
        +6
        Quote: Gardamir
        Either Crimea is really ours, or Sberbank is more important than Russia.

        Everything is simple here. Crimea is already ours, but Sberbank is not yet.
    2. NordUral
      NordUral 4 May 2020 19: 45 New
      +1
      I wanted to remain silent, but I will. "Zanashili" - a derivative of the Nashists, the pro-Putin party. Gardamir never condemned the coming of Crimea home to Russia. Only Crimea aspired to one Russia, which he remembered from the USSR, and came to a completely different one, where the same customs as in the States in relation to the people of the country. Only even meaner.
  • Doccor18
    Doccor18 4 May 2020 09: 29 New
    +7
    Offer should be a little
    lag behind demand. Prices up ...
    Business and nothing personal.
    Just think, millions are undernourished.
    The main thing is not to drop prices.
    The true grin of capitalism.
    1. lucul
      lucul 4 May 2020 09: 38 New
      +2
      Business and nothing personal.
      Just think, millions are undernourished.
      The main thing is not to drop prices.
      The true grin of capitalism.

      What difference does it make for them in which country the goyim are starving? ....
  • Buxloff
    Buxloff 4 May 2020 09: 30 New
    +4
    I recently read that a Russian farmer just dumped a crop of cucumbers from greenhouses in a field, like take as much as you want .. (unprofitable to export) And the people were sorted out, pickled, etc.
    In general, it’s scary to read, because in the world about 40% of the population is specifically starving .. It’s all unfair, in the days of the USSR, this would not have happened in a terrible dream, to do this with food ..
    1. Egoza
      Egoza 4 May 2020 09: 38 New
      +3
      Quote: Buxloff
      It’s all unfair, in the days of the USSR, this would not have been a dream in a nightmare, to do this with food ..

      Hence the conclusion: "Give socialism! Give the USSR-2"
      1. Buxloff
        Buxloff 4 May 2020 09: 42 New
        +1
        Quote: Egoza
        Hence the conclusion: "Give socialism! Give the USSR-2"

        It has been wandering among the population of Russia for a long time ...
        But they won’t let us restore it all. They’re too afraid of contrast!
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      2. Nikolaevich I
        Nikolaevich I 4 May 2020 10: 03 New
        +3
        Quote: Egoza
        Hence the conclusion: "Give socialism! Give the USSR-2"

        Socialism? May be ! And the USSR-2 on Keru!
      3. Malyuta
        Malyuta 4 May 2020 11: 04 New
        +2
        Quote: Egoza
        Hence the conclusion: "Give socialism! Give the USSR-2"

        And who will give it to you voluntarily?
    2. sabakina
      sabakina 4 May 2020 09: 46 New
      +3
      Buxloff, my colleagues threw off a video about these cucumbers. This is either in the Astrakhan region, or in the Volgograd ...
      1. Buxloff
        Buxloff 4 May 2020 10: 23 New
        +3
        Quote: sabakina
        Buxloff, my colleagues threw off a video about these cucumbers. This is either in the Astrakhan region, or in the Volgograd ...

        Yes, there was somewhere .. The most important thing was that the people from local villages and towns made it out nevertheless .. I was always jarred when products were crushed by bulldozers, etc. Well, why so? How many orphanages, nursing homes, etc. that live on porridge .. Damn capitalism, to destroy, but so that no one gets the price and keep ..
        1. sabakina
          sabakina 4 May 2020 10: 32 New
          +6
          Buxloff, you can still recall the program for 600 seconds, where Nevzorov showed heaps of condensed milk, sausages and cigarettes in the forest. At the same time, we still did not have capitalism as such ... They simply prepared us for it ...
          1. Buxloff
            Buxloff 4 May 2020 11: 17 New
            +1
            Quote: sabakina
            Buxloff, you can still recall the program for 600 seconds, where Nevzorov showed heaps of condensed milk, sausages and cigarettes in the forest. At the same time, we still did not have capitalism as such ... They simply prepared us for it ...

            I remember it all, pure sabotage .. When the cigarettes disappeared, it was the last straw of humiliation and disappointment ..
            Well, what then began, no one was ready for this .. And the main thing wasn’t able to return everything .. The Sabbath (Vlasovites and others) began on the bones of the USSR, which we still see .. hi
        2. Doccor18
          Doccor18 4 May 2020 10: 54 New
          +1
          Quote: Buxloff
          Quote: sabakina
          Buxloff, my colleagues threw off a video about these cucumbers. This is either in the Astrakhan region, or in the Volgograd ...

          Yes, there was somewhere .. The most important thing was that the people from local villages and towns made it out nevertheless .. I was always jarred when products were crushed by bulldozers, etc. Well, why so? How many orphanages, nursing homes, etc. that live on porridge .. Damn capitalism, to destroy, but so that no one gets the price and keep ..

          And conscripts in the army? Would they be hampered by vegetables, fruits,
          sanctions cheeses?
          1. Buxloff
            Buxloff 4 May 2020 11: 26 New
            -1
            Quote: Doccor18
            And conscripts in the army? Would they be hampered by vegetables, fruits,
            sanctions cheeses?

            It would not hurt, but the law of capitalism, profit is above all now in our place ... Let them swell with hunger, but we will not lower prices! hi
      2. Kamchatsky
        Kamchatsky 4 May 2020 15: 20 New
        +5
        Last year, I saw myself how a man who "is not profitable to carry to the bazaar" put a trailer full of bouquets of flowers at an intersection, wrote "FREE" on the trailer with chalk and distributed it to everyone who passed by. And tomorrow was September 1st. Belorechensk, Krasnodar Territory.
    3. Lynx2000
      Lynx2000 4 May 2020 09: 54 New
      +7
      Quote: Buxloff
      I recently read that a Russian farmer just dumped a crop of cucumbers from greenhouses in a field, like take as much as you want .. (unprofitable to export) And the people were sorted out, pickled, etc.

      The farmer himself could pickle. Consider preserving the salted crop for 10 months.
      When he studied at the university, on the topic: The Great Depression, causes and consequences, the lecturer reported that American farmers also went bankrupt ...

      Regarding the destruction of poaching eggs and the author’s regret that they are destroying it and not distributing it among citizens. Let me explain, God forbid you bite such a product.
      Poaching caviar, not vodka not taken into account and produced at the distillery in the third shift.

      Regarding manufactured goods confiscated on various grounds (smuggling, corner business, enforcement proceedings, etc.), if their quality meets the consumer properties in force in the Russian Federation (SanPIN), they are being sold. Previously, the RFBR was engaged in this, but it turned out as always - corruption and theft ...
      1. Buxloff
        Buxloff 4 May 2020 10: 27 New
        +1
        Quote: Lynx2000
        The farmer himself could pickle. Consider preserving the salted crop for 10 months.

        This is also a cost and not the fact that they will buy it, you need to store it in cellars or refrigerators ..
        Well, as for the rest, you are right of course, if by law .... But humanly, as it’s not very hard to push all this with bulldozers .. You would give pig farms, etc.
        I don’t remember that in the days of the USSR they did this with food ..
      2. sabakina
        sabakina 4 May 2020 10: 36 New
        +2
        Lynx2000, to salt, you need tanks with capabilities. When I served d / s, they came to the vegetable warehouse. I especially liked sauerkraut apples!
        1. Lynx2000
          Lynx2000 4 May 2020 11: 24 New
          +6
          Quote: Buxloff

          This is also a cost and not the fact that they will buy it, you need to store it in cellars or refrigerators ..
          Well, as for the rest, you are right of course, if by law .... But humanly, as it’s not very hard to push all this with bulldozers .. You would give pig farms, etc.

          Some farmers and KFK growing greens, fresh vegetables, at the same time began to dry, salt and pickle, make vegetable salads. In Petropavlovsk-Kamchatsky, they are sold in retail chains, there is demand. As for animal feed, I agree that also after testing, it is better to feed.

          Quote: sabakina
          Lynx2000, to salt, you need tanks with capabilities. When I served d / s, they came to the vegetable warehouse. I especially liked sauerkraut apples!

          Soaked apples and salted watermelons I love. :)
          A good owner and a container for salting ...
      3. Malyuta
        Malyuta 4 May 2020 11: 04 New
        -1
        Quote: Lynx2000
        Poaching caviar

        A huge amount of fish was destroyed in the Far East last year, and the president explained that we cannot drop the price below the market.
        1. Lynx2000
          Lynx2000 4 May 2020 11: 32 New
          +7
          Quote: Malyuta
          Quote: Lynx2000
          Poaching caviar

          A huge amount of fish was destroyed in the Far East last year, and the president explained that we cannot drop the price below the market.

          I have not heard of such a statement. In Kamchatka, on the west coast, they prepared for a salmon putin (beginning in July), the fish did not go for 1,5 weeks. Many began to withdraw from fishing areas. The vessels, the receiving fish factories, left the fishing areas.
          Fish went, coastal fish factories could not cope with the processing. Quotas are allocated to local enterprises in the presence of a birch fish factory.
          In general, the usual mismanagement, the small capacity of refrigerators for storage and few units of marine processors.

          Prices are set not by manufacturers, but by retailers.
          1. Malyuta
            Malyuta 4 May 2020 11: 52 New
            0
            Quote: Lynx2000
            Prices are set not by manufacturers, but by retailers.

            I strongly apologize, but let me ask you a curiosity, where did you find this thesis?
            1. Lynx2000
              Lynx2000 4 May 2020 13: 43 New
              +8
              Quote: Malyuta

              I strongly apologize, but let me ask you a curiosity, where did you find this thesis?

              This is not a thesis, but my opinion.
              Are we talking for retail?
              Have you seen many chains of company stores belonging specifically to fishing and processing enterprises?
              In Auchan, Crossroads, etc. fresh-frozen fish goes on sale directly from the farmer in the Far East, what do you think?
              1. Malyuta
                Malyuta 4 May 2020 13: 54 New
                -1
                Quote: Lynx2000
                In Auchan, Crossroads, etc. fresh-frozen fish goes on sale directly from the farmer in the Far East, what do you think?

                And I don’t think, but the fact that in a market economy prices are set not by “vashan”, but by the market.
                But if this is not so, then, accordingly, the economy is not a market economy.
                1. Lynx2000
                  Lynx2000 4 May 2020 22: 28 New
                  +3
                  Quote: Malyuta

                  And I don’t think, but the fact that in a market economy prices are set not by “vashan”, but by the market.
                  But if this is not so, then, accordingly, the economy is not a market economy.

                  Trading networks are part of the market. Do you think that the "free hand of the market" according to Adam Smith is capable of self-regulation? Like a balance of supply and demand? This is pure capitalism, and what the retailer does is reduce costs (purchase prices) and increase revenues (retail sales prices). Whatever one may say, even if a processor from the Vladimir region, for example, buys frozen fish from the Far East (for canned food, snacks or cookery), the finished product will again go for sale in retail chains.
        2. Golovan Jack
          Golovan Jack 4 May 2020 11: 38 New
          -1
          Quote: Malyuta
          the president explained that we cannot drop the price below the market

          Spoil yourself with a link, to the "president's statement" yes
    4. mark2
      mark2 4 May 2020 10: 46 New
      -1
      And I thought no one would remember the starving people in the world. These 40% will continue to starve. Products must also be delivered to them. Capitalism is everywhere. If a farmer is ready to give away products for free, then the carrier may not agree to deliver them for free.
    5. AllBiBek
      AllBiBek 4 May 2020 10: 49 New
      +2
      Come on?

      In the summer of 90, for example, how many scarce meat, which was on coupons, stupidly rotted in trucks, I still remember that stink.

      They stood in the suburbs for a week, while the bureaucracy was deciding what to do with this happiness.

      And how many vegetables and fruits rotted in vegetable warehouses and in stores, to create an artificial shortage so that from the floor, at exorbitant prices, and only "for our own" - is it really forgotten.

      To find tangerines for the new year is a whole quest, and at the end of January all the shops are littered with half-rotten ones and "for compote". And even these were dismantled, there were queues.

      And how dozens of loaves of bread were taken cheap to feed cows and pigs in the farm - didn’t come across either? Moreover, they took mainly people who survived the military and post-war hunger.

      Since the 70s there has been no reverence for food in the USSR. All who could have been persecuted in the fall to pick up rotting potatoes, cabbage, turnips, carrots, and beets in the fields - and it’s good if only a quarter rotted in the fields, and not at the vegetable warehouse.
    6. sniperino
      sniperino 4 May 2020 13: 01 New
      -2
      Quote: Buxloff
      the farmer just dumped a crop of cucumbers from the greenhouses in the field, like take as much as you want .. (unprofitable to export)
      It’s supposed to carry 500 km, and the harvest is only 2 bags? Or what kind of bookkeeping could happen to such a man ...
    7. Oleg2003
      Oleg2003 4 May 2020 22: 58 New
      0
      Who is starving? Negroes and Asians who breed like locusts? So let them try to work, not breed
      1. Oleg2003
        Oleg2003 4 May 2020 22: 59 New
        0
        Or Arabs and others like them?
  • Avior
    Avior 4 May 2020 09: 34 New
    +2
    So, in April 2014, the Belgians destroyed 1,5 tons of smuggled ivory in protest against poachers. And, of course, seriously raised the price of this product on the black market. In Singapore, the skin of monitor lizards and pythons is regularly destroyed at customs .....

    To destroy products confiscated from poachers means to raise prices for it and thereby stimulate poaching.
    1. Lynx2000
      Lynx2000 4 May 2020 10: 31 New
      +5
      Quote: Avior

      To destroy products confiscated from poachers means to raise prices for it and thereby stimulate poaching.

      Destruction of poaching caviar in the same Far East is due to the fact that this caviar is dangerous to the health of consumers, so it is processed in violation of the dignity.
      Believe me, in Moscow, grain-sized salmon caviar (and in reinforced concrete) is not more expensive, sometimes cheaper than in Kamchatka.
      1. Avior
        Avior 4 May 2020 10: 51 New
        0
        roe caviar strife
        but I agree with caviar, it’s more difficult, there are legitimate producers, they can’t bring down the price
      2. carstorm 11
        carstorm 11 5 May 2020 05: 03 New
        +2
        generally more expensive. I have been familiar with this difference for 15 years now. the thing is what kind of caviar. how it was delivered and how it was processed. for many years they didn’t bother and just drove her frozen. and this is not that caviar. at all. I was admissible in the store branded Sakhalin-fish in Moscow where the price is about 60 percent higher than in our market. 1750 per half kg of frozen chum salmon is very expensive. we have 2000-2200 kg. can be found cheaper if desired.
        1. Lynx2000
          Lynx2000 5 May 2020 09: 09 New
          +3
          Quote: carstorm 11
          generally more expensive. I have been familiar with this difference for 15 years now. the thing is what kind of caviar. how it was delivered and how it was processed. for many years they didn’t bother and just drove her frozen. and this is not that caviar. at all. I was admissible in the store branded Sakhalin-fish in Moscow where the price is about 60 percent higher than in our market. 1750 per half kg of frozen chum salmon is very expensive. we have 2000-2200 kg. can be found cheaper if desired.

          :-) Caviar is for bourgeois.
          Initially, fresh caviar was salted in barrels with a drain of sludge.
          Now on the fishing line, at coastal fish factories, fresh caviar is salted and packed in plastic 23-liter cuboid containers, and the preservative sodium benzoic acid sodium benzoate is also added.
          The best option is salted and frozen caviar from fresh raw materials without preservatives.
          Fresh-frozen caviar in the oysters is the raw material. On the spot, for example, in the Moscow Region it is defrosted, salted without preservatives, sold. Its shelf life is several days.
          The problem with freshly-frozen caviar in the oysters in processing is that when separating the caviar from the ravine film (like a bag containing caviar), raw materials are lost and processors use a chemical to dissolve this film.
          Regarding poaching caviar, this problem is currently not resolved, its share in the sale (legalized under the documents of real producers) in Russia is not small, in 2008-2012 it was estimated that at least 30% of the official turnover.
          In addition to damage from illegal calling, non-payment of taxes and fees of the FBG, it is a danger to the health of consumers (botulism, fungus, etc.).
          The fishing industry has accumulated many problems. I believe that as an industry corresponds to agriculture. Therefore, it is advisable to create a ministry of fisheries in the USSR. The development of deep processing of harvested fish, the organization of its sale (accessible through the established sales network) should also be included in the food security program.
          For me, a bank of saury is 240 grams of a fish farm named after V.I. Lenin in calories replaces the same can of beef stew.
  • Altona
    Altona 4 May 2020 09: 47 New
    +2
    In fact, all this is barbarism in its purest form. At first, animals are encouraged to develop more milk and meat, and then they are stupidly cut for utilization, not even for food. Also with plants. Also with minerals that go for industrial goods.
    1. IS-80_RVGK2
      IS-80_RVGK2 4 May 2020 12: 19 New
      +2
      And then all sorts of scum tell us that capitalism is an economic system that is better than not and never will be. Calling not to notice the obvious and increasingly aggravating contradictions of capitalism.
  • k174oun7
    k174oun7 4 May 2020 10: 00 New
    -6
    Quote: "Russia, for example, is stopping the export of wheat, and Canadian farmers, following the example of their southern neighbors, also began to massively pour milk into dung heaps and slaughter livestock. In the future, there will be nowhere to buy fresh livestock, and the country will inevitably face an increase in the price of food, and probably , and with their acute shortage "
    Strange looks the decision of Russia i.e. unnamed officials of the appropriate level to stop grain exports. It turns out that before the coronavirus was exported and joyfully informed that we occupy leading positions, and now that you can sell and have demand, you need to stop it. You could understand that sales have declined. But this is unlikely. People will always eat bread and, accordingly, grain is in demand. Probably our state managers are worried that buyers will buy Russian grain and destroy it in spite of the Russian Federation. Wisely, sensibly, in a businesslike way.
    1. Golovan Jack
      Golovan Jack 4 May 2020 10: 11 New
      0
      Quote: k174un7
      Strange looks the decision of Russia i.e. unnamed officials of the appropriate level to stop grain exports

      Um ... it’s not yet clear what will happen to the sowing season. It is completely unclear what will happen to the harvest (forecasts for the summer of 2020 are bad). In this situation, to keep the grain - a decision, IMHO, is quite competent. Dispute wink
      1. Andrey VOV
        Andrey VOV 4 May 2020 10: 26 New
        +1
        The sowing went well, the winter crops are in order, well, the hot summer will fly away, it's okay, there are always carry-over leftovers and there are a lot of grain in the storage reserves, so there’s nothing to cause panic
        1. Golovan Jack
          Golovan Jack 4 May 2020 10: 26 New
          -6
          Quote: Andrey VOV
          there are always carry-over residues and there are a lot of grain reserves in storage

          Are you related, or do you just think so?

          Quote: Andrey VOV
          nothing to panic

          And who directs her?
          1. Andrey VOV
            Andrey VOV 4 May 2020 10: 28 New
            +2
            Just don’t worry, more positive, the weekend, wave a stack under the domestic meat
            1. Golovan Jack
              Golovan Jack 4 May 2020 10: 34 New
              -7
              Quote: Andrey VOV
              more positive weekend

              Hmm ... I have a working day, today we are launching five stores in "contactless" mode request

              Quote: Andrey VOV
              do not worry

              Not at all. I objected to the couch analyst, who tries to find fault with what he doesn’t understand. From what side you are here and why you decided that I was "worried" - it's not entirely clear, I'm sorry.

              Quote: Andrey VOV
              wave a stack

              I repeat - I have a working day. No way yes
              1. Andrey VOV
                Andrey VOV 4 May 2020 12: 25 New
                +2
                Work is good, yesterday I finished 60 bouts for the last batch at the expense of the limit for Novorossiysk, so today I have a good rest))
                1. Golovan Jack
                  Golovan Jack 4 May 2020 12: 27 New
                  -4
                  Quote: Andrey VOV
                  Work is good

                  Not that word. I was lucky with work, yes.

                  Quote: Andrey VOV
                  today I have a well-deserved rest))

                  Have a nice holiday drinks
              2. vlad106
                vlad106 4 May 2020 16: 28 New
                -1
                "... I repeat - I have a working day.
                Hm ... I have a working day, today we are launching five stores in the "contactless" request mode
                working day?,,,"
                =========================================
                10-34 you sent this text. and apparently you work all day with keys.
                "hard worker Jack"
                1. Golovan Jack
                  Golovan Jack 4 May 2020 16: 39 New
                  -7
                  Quote: vlad106
                  10-34 you sent this text. and apparently you work all day with the keys

                  1. Not "you", but "you". Please, make an effort ...
                  2. Any doubts? You write, do not be shy.
                  3. Shops - two in Moscow, one each in Samara, Kazan, Adygea. It’s pure that there are fewer stupid questions wink
                  4. As for the keys - yes, I'm still a programmer, not a seller in the store. But I still work mainly with my head, fingers on the keys - this is already secondary yes
      2. k174oun7
        k174oun7 4 May 2020 10: 48 New
        0
        Easy. It is perfectly clear what will happen to the sowing season. For sowing to be successful, you need seeds, tractors with seeders and a sufficient amount of fuel and lubricants. There are few people for the sowing campaign. These vital issues of the existence of the state must be considered in advance at the proper level. For this, there are corresponding departments for state funds. This requires unconditional implementation of the decisions made. This is where the power of the state lies, i.e. management's ability to make day-to-day decisions and organize their implementation. The virus has nothing to do with it. Coming up with predictions and then explaining why they did not come true is the business of the telepaths. Most people are required for harvesting. Returning Ukrainian "migrant workers" worked precisely on the harvest. Here it is possible to predict that in the second half of summer, when the harvest begins to ripen in the fields and gardens of Italy, Spain, Greece, Poland, etc., millions of migrant workers from poor countries of Eastern Europe will return to Europe. It will be justified that the virus has been defeated and they will successfully bend their backs on the European gentlemen. So, to impose bans on anything, in this case on grain export, is the easiest and simplest thing that government officials can do, instead of painstaking work ...
        1. Golovan Jack
          Golovan Jack 4 May 2020 10: 58 New
          -8
          Quote: k174un7
          It’s clear what will happen to the seed

          Quote: Andrey VOV
          Sowing went well

          The rest is blah blah blah. "Against everything bad and for everything good."

          This -

          Quote: Golovan Jack
          it’s not yet clear what will happen to the seed

          - there was a test, a "troll hook". You swallowed it like a hungry bass good

          Quote: k174un7
          The virus has nothing to do with it.

          You understand, there’s nothing more to tell us.

          I repeat, the decision to "hold" a food product in oneself under conditions of uncertainty (and such conditions exist) - quite balanced and competent. IMHO yes
    2. Malyuta
      Malyuta 4 May 2020 11: 09 New
      0
      Quote: k174un7
      Probably our state managers are worried that buyers will buy Russian grain and destroy it in spite of the Russian Federation. Wisely, sensibly, in a businesslike way.

      They only consider options and schemes of theft, for them if there is nothing to steal, then this is not a business.
    3. sniperino
      sniperino 4 May 2020 13: 33 New
      +1
      Quote: k174un7
      Quote: "..."
      It’s good when the source is quoted. If you copy and paste, but you hide the resource, then for some reason you give its copyright holder a reason for conflict, and the reader a reason to ask a question, where did the firewood come from (lover of keen source-study feelings)
  • aleks.29ru
    aleks.29ru 4 May 2020 10: 15 New
    -1
    Well, it doesn’t threaten us. Our sellers will not calm down until they sell the delay. Shops are littered with frozen fish caught last year and dozens of varieties of sausages with a meat content of 30 percent.
    1. Andrey VOV
      Andrey VOV 4 May 2020 10: 32 New
      +2
      If the fish is deep frozen, hell well what will happen
    2. Lynx2000
      Lynx2000 4 May 2020 10: 39 New
      +5
      Quote: aleks.29ru
      Our sellers will not calm down until they sell the delay. Stores littered with frozen fish caught last year

      Are you surprised?! So it was before the sanction of 2014 and before self-isolation.
      Wholesalers keep freshly cut fish (pollack, cod, flounder, pink salmon and chum salmon) on the refrigerators from the past season, the fish turns yellow (oxidizes and winds) until they are sold, new lots will remain on the refrigerators until they turn yellow.
      According to GOST, fresh-frozen fish (pollock, cod, flounder, salmon) has a shelf life of not more than 10 months from the date of processing at a storage temperature of not higher than -18 C.
  • Ros 56
    Ros 56 4 May 2020 11: 56 New
    +1
    Read Steinbeck's Grapes of Wrath, one to one.
  • Jack O'Neill
    Jack O'Neill 4 May 2020 13: 58 New
    +1
    Why not give out food to the homeless? And you can get rid of food this way, and feed a certain percentage of the population, those who cannot afford food.
  • Chet
    Chet 4 May 2020 14: 29 New
    +1
    God of mind if not gives
    So it will be all mixed up, slanting
    Here is this covid 19, the first time I see that so much attention has been paid to the infection
    It got to the point that enterprises stop, and transport
    Why don't seasonal flu outbreaks get that much attention?
    Why is no one crying on camera
    They kinda died of the flu that came suddenly, oh, oh, oh
    The world will not be the same after this flu, oh, oh, oh
    And with covidom, they got sick, the circus program was clearly delayed and something had already gone wrong
    1. vlad106
      vlad106 4 May 2020 16: 40 New
      0
      Quote: Chet
      Here is this covid 19, the first time I see that so much attention has been paid to the infection
      It got to the point that enterprises stop, and transport
      Why don't seasonal flu outbreaks get that much attention?
      Why is no one crying on camera
      They kinda died of the flu that came suddenly, oh, oh, oh



      at the beginning of the last century, several tens of millions of people died from a similar virus "SPANISH"
      would you probably want a similar number of victims?
  • Zinoviy
    Zinoviy 4 May 2020 16: 07 New
    +1
    Now we have the same "capitalism grimaces" with a shift of 90 years.
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  • nikvic46
    nikvic46 4 May 2020 16: 30 New
    +3
    America is the mirror of capitalism for all countries. This is not a new formula, you can’t live like that. The mentality with us is different. What kind of Russian can go to bed without taking off his shoes. I’m sure underground clubs are working to the fullest. In a previous article, I was reproached for praising the USSR sanitary service. It’s not only a matter of it. The rules of relations between people themselves were different. In the 50s they did not live well. And people were not respected for their beautiful clothes. If a person walks in neatly patched clean clothes, then no matter what, he was treated with respect, and even old shoes should be polished.
  • Million
    Million 4 May 2020 17: 47 New
    +1
    In the USSR there was such a phrase: public good.
    Now this kind of property has begun to belong to someone. In our area, a recreation center (the owner is under arrest), built not so long ago, a dozen unfinished homes in a new microdistrict (the developer has died, and his heirs are also under arrest) are beginning to collapse, and the dispensary is being destroyed, in which sent for rehabilitation after cardiovascular diseases (owner-administration of the city) and much more ...
    Capitalism or a market economy is a cruel thing
  • awdrgy
    awdrgy 4 May 2020 21: 17 New
    0
    What kind of ubki are trying to rule the world, but what are they trying to rule, the Lord will punish them with the complete annihilation of the soul, if only the most important person is not immortal after the agreement with the devil, but this also does not last
  • Ingenegr
    Ingenegr 4 May 2020 23: 07 New
    +2
    Quote: vlad106
    AND THIS IS ANIMAL BEAST CAPITALIST CRAFTS (sorry for caps)
    dragged into the country and imposed on our people as a blessing

    Who brought in ?! Nobody dragged IT. Moreover, there were people in power and those close to it, warning about the consequences of the "free market" of the then Soviet citizens. So what? At that time, as a schoolboy, I perfectly remembered the general mood - "THERE are such chickens, and ours themselves die." Like, we'll live - we'll just knock down the commies. And 1991 showed it perfectly - do you remember August? Crowds near the White House for Yeltsin and Democracy. And nobody! No one for "Soviet Power and the International".
    All that is now - no one was dragging. Most — roaring, screaming, and hysterical — chose IT on their own. And now the Indians are being driven into the reservation. Everything is correct and logical.
    I remember one of M.N. Zadornov - "everything that the Bolsheviks said about communism turned out to be a lie, and everything that they said about capitalism was true." Primitive, but basically true.
    Everything that was told to us in Soviet schools about social relations under capitalism was true.
    If you didn't want to study seriously, you will get the fate of the Indians. Blame yourself. And "uncles" have nothing to do with it. They only took advantage of their good education, moment, human stupidity, unwillingness to learn and think, and greed.
  • realist
    realist 5 May 2020 07: 52 New
    0
    overproduction crisis. to maintain market prices, you can reduce supply or increase demand, a problem that has long been known to everyone as its solution.
  • realist
    realist 5 May 2020 07: 57 New
    +1
    Quote: aleks.29ru
    Well, it doesn’t threaten us. Our sellers will not calm down until they sell the delay. Shops are littered with frozen fish caught last year and dozens of varieties of sausages with a meat content of 30 percent.

    Are you kidding me in which particular meat sausage 30%? how many did not communicate with sausage factories everyone speaks bashfully: in the best grades up to 10% and in some not at all. boiled sausage in the store costs 100 rubles kg, do you really think that it has meat? if only a dog ground with a booth, one per ton of stuffing ....
  • Fishery
    Fishery 5 May 2020 09: 10 New
    +1
    yes everywhere now so where is the quarantine, markets and many networks do not work, farmers got this season, I saw landfills from radishes and cucumbers)) 7 meters high, heaps along the highway
  • Sergey Samkov
    Sergey Samkov 5 May 2020 12: 33 New
    +1
    Here some "bortsuny" are confusing something .... In Russia, they destroyed the "sanction" for the reason, to buy their goods from their manufacturers !!! YOUR OWN !!! And capitalism destroys its own, so as not to sell cheaper to its own! FEEL THE DIFFERENCE - REPRESENTATIVES
  • barin
    barin 5 May 2020 14: 59 New
    0
    It is better to do nothing at all than to work SO. First, efforts are made to create, then - to destroy negative
  • Egorov Vladimir
    Egorov Vladimir 6 May 2020 08: 45 New
    -1
    I am a private trader. and I personally poured 12 tons of fresh apples on the field, fertilized them with the field. And it was beneficial for me. No one has the right to prevent capital from regulating its income. here many write that pouring milk is not right. and when the state reaches into his pocket, this scribbler, he first raises a howl. like rob.
  • trahterist
    trahterist 6 May 2020 21: 29 New
    0
    Quote: Pilat2009
    Quote: Ilya-spb
    UN asks for help ... for hunger products

    Well, not only do the products have to be given away, they still need to be shipped, brought and handed out. And it’s all worth the money. So you think we have stores doing what with products that are running out of time?

    So in Britain, about the last 6 years, I observe how delays from markets and private shops are quite blindly realized.
    Where for nothing, where purely for a nominal fee.
    And not only homeless people take it, it happens that on a completely normal wheelbarrow an aborigine (-sha) stuffs full luggage racks.
    The phenomenon, if you delve into it, is very common.
    Well, the mentality is more simple, paradoxically.
    What will happen to him, chocolate, sweets, fruits, frozen meat, if it has just expired ??? Yes, absolutely nothing!
    But just "ours" turn up their nose, and are ready to hang themselves if the expiration date on the package is not seen.
    So not all "capitalists" have lost their brains.