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Eighteen days of feat. In heaven and on earth

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In 1967, Komsomol social activists of the Azov Optical and Mechanical Plant (AOMZ) organized a teenage youth club "Patriot" in their free time from work. At the grand opening, the Hero of the Soviet Union Alexei Petrovich Maresyev was elected honorary president of the club.


Eighteen days of feat. In heaven and on earthAlexey Petrovich Maresyev was born on May 20, 1916 in the city of Kamyshin. He began his career as a turner at a factory. He studied in absentia at the Moscow Aviation Institute.

In 1934, he participated in the Komsomol construction of an aircraft factory (Komsomolsk-on-Amur), where he also worked in a local flying club.

In 1937 he was called up for military service in aviation border troops of the USSR, in the Pacific border district (Sakhalin island). In 1939 he was sent to the Chita school of military pilots, which was soon transferred to the city of Bataisk, Rostov Region.

Upon completion in 1940, the Bataille Aviation School. A.K. Serova was promoted to junior lieutenant and left as an instructor. In 1941, he was mobilized from Bataysk to the front, to the 296th Fighter Aviation Regiment.

His first sortie took place on August 23, 1941 in the area of ​​the city of Krivoy Rog.

Passed the Southwest and Northwest Front.

In 1942, he was appointed flight commander of the 580th Fighter Aviation Regiment. Particularly distinguished himself and opened his battle account, shooting down 3 enemy aircraft.

April 5, 1942 during the operation "Demyansky Cauldron" (Novgorod region) in an air unequal battle with superior enemy forces, his Yak-1 plane was shot down. Having been injured, the pilot reached his front line, but when trying to make an emergency landing, he fell from a height of 30 meters in a snowy forest.

For eighteen days a pilot with broken legs crawled through the snow through the forests and swamps made his way to his. A. Maresyev, instead of water, ate snow, ate bark, cones and moss, slept in ravines, the bottom of which was lined with spruce, and he hid himself. He was noticed by residents from the village of Plav in the Valdai District, brought by cart to their house, and then sent by plane to a Moscow hospital.

Doctors saved the life of A. Maresyev, but were forced to amputate both legs. In a specialized hospital in the city of Kuibyshev, he was put on prostheses and transferred to the sanatorium named after Chkalova. There he began to stubbornly prepare to return to duty and fly.

At the beginning of 1943 he went through a medical commission and was sent to a flight school, where he made his first test flight after being wounded and got sent to the combat front. In June 1943, on the eve of the Battle of Kursk, he arrived at the 63rd Guards Fighter Aviation Regiment. After several successful sorties, paired with the squadron commander A.M. Chislov, he received well-deserved trust and the ability to go on combat missions.

In an air battle on July 19, 1943, he was shot down by a diving German bomber. The next day, July 20, in a battle with superior enemy forces, Maresyev destroyed two enemy fighters and saved the lives of two Soviet pilots.

Since October 1943, he fought as an assistant commander of the 63rd Guards Fighter Aviation Regiment, then became a navigator in the air rifle service.

The military glory of A. Maresyev spread all over the front. This strong-willed and courageous man was written in the newspapers. His name has already become famous throughout the country. Correspondents often came to the regiment.

In March 1945, A. Maresyev transferred to the post of inspector-pilot in the management of universities of the Main formation and combat training of the Red Army Air Force.

During the war, made 86 sorties, shot down 10 enemy aircraft, three before being wounded, and seven after.

In June 1942, he was awarded the Order of the Red Banner for three downed German aircraft. On August 24, 1943, for saving the life of two pilots and 3 shot down German fighters, he was awarded the title of Hero of the Soviet Union (Golden Star No. 1102).

After the war in peacetime, he went from major to the rank of colonel. In 1946, he went into reserve, took up education, graduated from the Academy of Social Sciences and the Higher Party School. He defended his thesis on stories. In the 1950s, he flew on a training aircraft as an instructor in the Air Force special schools in Moscow.

Constantly supported himself in excellent physical shape, went in for sports: bicycle, skiing, swimming. Set a personal record by crossing the Volga: 2 km 200 m in 55 minutes.

In the postwar period, the example of A. Maresyev was widely used to educate the younger generation. His feat formed the basis of the book by Boris Polevoy "The Tale of a Real Man", which was included in the course of Soviet school literature. According to the book, a film was later made.

In recent years, he worked as executive secretary of the Soviet Committee of War Veterans in the city of Moscow. He was very often invited, organized meetings with young people. Their perfect feat is forever inscribed in the history of our country.

1949 - participant in the First World Congress of Peace Supporters in Paris.

1960 - the book by A. P. Maresyev “On the Kursk Bulge” was published.

1960 - at the Bolshoi Theater, the premiere of the opera "The Tale of a Real Man" by S. S. Prokofiev took place.

1967 - participated in the ceremony of lighting the Eternal Flame at the Tomb of the Unknown Soldier.

1989 - People's Deputy of the USSR.

He was elected an honorary citizen of the cities: Stara Zagora (Bulgaria), Bataysk (Rostov Region), Komsomolsk-on-Amur, Orel.
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  1. Aviator_
    Aviator_ 2 May 2020 10: 06 New
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    Some unusual propeller in the photo. More like a helicopter tail rotor. Have you put what was in stock?
    1. 210ox
      210ox 2 May 2020 10: 10 New
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      What does it have to do with it? It's about the Feat and the Real Man ..
      1. Aviator_
        Aviator_ 2 May 2020 10: 16 New
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        The feat was. And the real Man until 1996 was also. But this is not a reason to put a hacky monument.
        1. sabakina
          sabakina 2 May 2020 10: 30 New
          +6
          Sergey, I agree. On a pinch, one could carve a copy from a tree. But the circles of aircraft models apparently have sunk into oblivion ...
          1. Insurgent
            Insurgent 2 May 2020 11: 22 New
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            Quote: sabakina
            mugs of aircraft models apparently sunk into oblivion ...


            I remember the Donetsk Oblast and its capabilities, when it comes to the situation with drones in the NM (militia) of the DPR ...

            Where EVERYTHING what happened ALL gone request
        2. alone
          alone 2 May 2020 12: 31 New
          +3
          Quote: Aviator_
          The feat was. And the real Man until 1996 was also. But this is not a reason to put a hacky monument.

          What is this? On posters for Victory Day, why not see it? German infantry, Tiger tanks
          1. Zementbomber
            Zementbomber 2 May 2020 14: 59 New
            -4
            On Victory Day posters, why not see it? German infantry, Tiger tanks

            Well - this is a completely inevitable consequence of your window dressing.
            There is a long classic article on this topic:
            http://www.globalrus.ru/print_this/780383/
            - more February 2006 ...
        3. Sling cutter
          Sling cutter 3 May 2020 01: 52 New
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          Quote: Aviator_
          The feat was. And the real Man until 1996 was also. But this is not a reason to put a hacky monument.

          So the article is either like a reprint from the wiki, or a synopsis.
          This article does not reflect all the heroism of what is happening. What can the current student understand from this article, which is also clumsy written,
          the pilot reached to your front line,engaged in education,
          ,
          took up education
          ,
          Passed Southwestern and Northwestern Front.
          . One gets the impression that either the schoolboy also wrote, or the Russian language is not native. They don’t say and do not write like that, they put them on dentures .....
          It’s clear that today's children didn’t play “war” in the yard and didn’t share “for ours” and “for Germans”, and they hardly watched the movie with Kadochnikov, it’s better to keep silent about the book.
          But Polevoy's emphasis is on the Feat, namely, Soviet Man, and the scene and dialogue with the commissar impressed me in early childhood and this childhood feeling that the Soviet Man can overcome everything was a reality, because these Soviet people, sung in books and films were our contemporaries!
          What now? And now the film "scum" and try, tell the youth about the heroism and dedication of the Soviet people ...
          Honestly, all this is sad ...
          1. Aviator_
            Aviator_ 3 May 2020 10: 56 New
            +2
            The text is oak, that's right, I did not immediately notice. By the way, the book shows the image of a true commissar who really convinces the main character of the need to achieve his goal, despite a serious wound. Thanks to such commissars, the Victory was won. Well, for today's young people, only compromisers like Grandpa Zu’s, completely discrediting the communist idea, are in front of their eyes.
          2. The leader of the Redskins
            The leader of the Redskins 3 May 2020 16: 10 New
            +2
            My grandfather, Pyotr Ivanovich, encountered Maresyev in one of the departmental sanatoriums. Even sat in the same company for a "glass of tea." So, according to the Hero himself, he does not know how to dance - this is the director’s idea and move.)))
    2. Zementbomber
      Zementbomber 2 May 2020 13: 37 New
      -6
      Listen, well, don’t you be a “rivet”! "10 thousand - they will break through - 10 million will look and admire!" (c) (quote from the director of the cult "Crew" - if that)
  2. Vladimir_2U
    Vladimir_2U 2 May 2020 10: 06 New
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    Thank you, reminded of this feat! What willpower, and even it’s not about flying with prostheses, that’s all, and getting out to your own, overcoming fatigue and wild pain, and just deciding to continue living without legs. Great person.
    1. aleksejkabanets
      aleksejkabanets 2 May 2020 10: 33 New
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      Quote: Vladimir_2U
      Thank you, reminded of this feat! What willpower, and even it’s not about flying with prostheses, that’s all, and getting out to your own, overcoming fatigue and wild pain, and just deciding to continue living without legs. Great person.

      And to download a book for free is not very simple, to see someone has assigned rights to it.
      1. AU Ivanov.
        AU Ivanov. 2 May 2020 11: 42 New
        +2
        Flibusta to help you. Everything is there, well, or almost everything.
      2. Alf
        Alf 2 May 2020 18: 15 New
        +1
        Quote: aleksejkabanets
        And to download a book for free is not very simple, to see someone has assigned rights to it.

        https://royallib.com/get/fb2/maresev_aleksey/na_kurskoy_duge.zip
        No problem.
        1. aleksejkabanets
          aleksejkabanets 2 May 2020 21: 02 New
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          Quote: Alf
          https://royallib.com/get/fb2/maresev_aleksey/na_kurskoy_duge.zip
          No problem.

          I downloaded it, but it’s unpleasant when Google writes “some results were hidden, at the request of the copyright holders”, please buy or pay and download, for example, Litres. Who is the copyright holder and by what right the copyright holder appears for literature of the Soviet period, by what right the same publishing house "Enlightenment" removes from the network Soviet textbooks of the 40s, 50s "Uchpedgiz" and "Enlightenment". So soon, with Pushkin and Lermontov, the copyright holder will appear.
          1. Alf
            Alf 2 May 2020 22: 53 New
            +2
            Quote: aleksejkabanets
            So soon, with Pushkin and Lermontov, the copyright holder will appear.

            Well, there was a scandal a couple of years ago when the granddaughter of Mikhail Timofeevich filed a lawsuit against Izhmash demanding to pay her a percentage of each AK issued on the grounds that she was a granddaughter. But the company's lawyers quickly besieged her with one question, but what do you have to do with the immortal creation of Mikhail Timofeevich. And she was blown away.
            1. Zementbomber
              Zementbomber 5 May 2020 05: 52 New
              +1
              And is the heir of the copyright holder - obligated to have something to do with "creation", except for a purely genetic relationship to his (creation) creator / copyright holder? Oh, darken here, here you are something, darken ... bully
  3. Hunter 2
    Hunter 2 2 May 2020 10: 14 New
    +8
    Alexey Petrovich - Man Legend! Do not convey the feelings experienced - after meeting with this Hero in 1989.
    This is an example ... of a Beautiful and Real life, a REAL HUMAN AND A WARRIOR.
  4. tanki-tanki
    tanki-tanki 2 May 2020 10: 15 New
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    Heroic man! I survived through this! And then, even at the age of swimming and playing sports!
  5. fiberboard
    fiberboard 2 May 2020 10: 28 New
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    Under current rulers, this is not relevant. It seems like they even removed them from the school curriculum, along with the Young Guard. Now it’s important to study the biographies of EBN, Chubais, Gaidar (not the writer, but his granddaughter), Usmanov, Rotenberg, the works of Novodvorskaya (the earth is glassy to her), and the like. The more I cry from the TV screen, the less sense. Whereas before, the Great Patriotic War was always written completely, now it is the Second World War everywhere, and sometimes in small letters. If even the decisive battles of the Great War do not know. Well, in Europe it’s not better, some already say that Hitler had a name Kaput. But it’s understandable, they’re especially proud of nothing, and I don’t really want to remember how they fought. And we, with our experiments in the field of education, raised a generation of relatives who do not remember.
    1. Zementbomber
      Zementbomber 2 May 2020 10: 36 New
      -1
      Whereas before, the Great Patriotic War was always written completely, now the Second World War is everywhere, and sometimes in small letters.

      Well nefig whistle toll! I graduated from school in 1987. WWII and VOSR - in droves they wrote and spoke even then.
      1. volodimer
        volodimer 3 May 2020 15: 41 New
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        He graduated in 1989. We did not have one. Neglect of the October Revolution was observed, but nothing of the kind was close to the Great Patriotic War. The center may have begun earlier, but it has not yet reached us ... Vladivostok is a city of Nashensky, but far away.
    2. mat-vey
      mat-vey 2 May 2020 11: 40 New
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      Quote: fiberboard
      Gaidar (not a writer, but his granddaughter

      Sorry of course, but this drunk to Golikov is not by any means ...
      1. Sling cutter
        Sling cutter 3 May 2020 01: 05 New
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        Quote: mat-vey
        Sorry of course, but this drunk to Golikov is not by any means ...

        The son of an adopted son.
        1. mat-vey
          mat-vey 3 May 2020 07: 15 New
          +2
          So he and the daughter were adopted ...
          "And if you keep in mind that Timur Gaidar was born in December 1926, then his young parents conceived him around mid-April.
          But here there is a discrepancy. In April, Arkady was far from Perm. He decided to go for fees from published stories to Central Asia - to Tashkent, Kara-Kum, then through the Caspian to Baku. A journey full of romantic adventures ended with the creation of the story "Riders of the impregnable mountains", which was published in Moscow in 1927.
          According to the testimony of his colleagues, in mid-April he wrote a letter to the Perm editorial office about his first impressions. That is, it turns out that at the time when Timur was conceived, he was not next to Leah. Arkady returned to Perm only in the middle of summer. "
          Arkady Petrovich himself had a double surname - Golikov-Gaidar, but Timur, receiving a passport (and according to some reports, was Solomyansky until he came of age), took only the literary pseudonym of his stepfather as his surname.
          So the adopted son already did not want to have any relation to Golikov ...
    3. AU Ivanov.
      AU Ivanov. 2 May 2020 12: 58 New
      +2
      Hitler's name became Kaput.
    4. Zementbomber
      Zementbomber 2 May 2020 13: 43 New
      0
      My cousin - lives in Russia with a double RSPshka. I just wrote off - that this story is - in your school curriculum there is now. In his "subject of the federation" by cr. least. And as an optional truth.
  6. sabakina
    sabakina 2 May 2020 10: 31 New
    +1
    Oh, there was a time, there were people! HUMANS were! You could even say HUMANS!
    1. Zementbomber
      Zementbomber 2 May 2020 14: 25 New
      -3
      HUMANS - they are always there, Vyacheslav-sabakina. Just sometimes - them (HUMANS) are called by the Age. And sometimes - they remain unclaimed. This is well known to psychologists in fact. Only they write about it less sublimely. Namely: "In some situations - the behavior of individuals of a hysterical type - can become Heroic."
  7. KVU-NSVD
    KVU-NSVD 2 May 2020 10: 31 New
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    Nails would be made of these people - there wouldn’t be any stronger nails in the world (c) V. Mayakovsky
    1. Aviator_
      Aviator_ 2 May 2020 10: 41 New
      +4
      Nails would be made of these people - there wouldn’t be any stronger nails in the world (c) V. Mayakovsky

      This is Nikolai Tikhonov, not Mayakovsky.
      1. sabakina
        sabakina 2 May 2020 11: 14 New
        0
        Sergey, well, give a discount, we are not all encyclopedias. wink
    2. Moon
      Moon 2 May 2020 20: 06 New
      0
      Quote: KVU-NSVD
      Alexey Petrovich Maresyev

      Iron people, an unshakable generation who survived and won the most difficult war.
  8. Zementbomber
    Zementbomber 2 May 2020 10: 43 New
    +7
    In fairness - the number of legless pilots - in the Air Force of the Red Army and in the Air Force of the Republic of Kazakhstan of the Navy - was measured, in total, by a two-digit number. And Maresyev - even the first of them was not. One pilot Yak-9 - flew even without one arm (!!) (received a Hero after the collapse of the USSR, ChSH)
    And the first legless pilot in history was here he is:
    https://zen.yandex.ru/media/takaya_istoria/beznogii-angliiskii-pilot-sbejal-iz-nemeckogo-konclageria--5a69c1ebf4a0dde70ba3e74d
    - and for the first time I read about it completely not to Yandex Zen. And in the "TM" of the Brezhnev era. While still a Red PionEr - all Little Children are utterly worthless Horseradish Example. laughing
    PS Negative !! bully
    1. AU Ivanov.
      AU Ivanov. 2 May 2020 13: 11 New
      +6
      The first legless pilot in Russia - Prokofiev-Seversky, The First World War.
      1. Zementbomber
        Zementbomber 2 May 2020 13: 22 New
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        In no way denying the outstanding scale of personality and the multifaceted activities of Major Seversky - NSA, he only had one foot amputated. In airplane control, this is a very, very big difference with amputation of both feet. Since in the first case, you still retain the ability to "feel the pedals."
        1. AU Ivanov.
          AU Ivanov. 2 May 2020 13: 59 New
          +2
          In general, for a fighter pilot, that is, an aerobatic pilot, legs play a huge role.
          1. mat-vey
            mat-vey 2 May 2020 14: 34 New
            +8
            My grandfather sapper with almost one arm went through the war - after the wound on my right hand there was practically only a thumb. I retrained on my left hand in the hospital. Before the wound I was a signalman. An injury in the battles for Maly Yaroslavets.
            Moreover, he served in 218 separate mine clearance units - tens of thousands of mines removed ..
            1. Lynx2000
              Lynx2000 5 May 2020 03: 19 New
              +3
              Quote: mat-vey
              My grandfather, a sapper, with almost one arm, went through the floor of the war - after the wound on my right hand there was practically only a thumb. I retrained on my left hand in the hospital.

              All veterans after injuries, especially severe ones, after amputations of limbs who had the willpower not to break psychologically, restore the body, convince the IHC in the ability to carry out military service, are worthy of respect!
              In 2000, I received a shrapnel wound under my right knee and shell shock. Quickly recovered.
              In 2011, after a knife wound in the right hand for four months he did not move his fingers, two still do not work. It was hard to do everything with one hand.
              So, in the conditions of that time, to stand up after being wounded is heroism.
              1. mat-vey
                mat-vey 5 May 2020 03: 32 New
                +1
                Grandfather in general was unique in his own way - he himself found marsh ore and smelted iron (charcoal also annealed it for himself), he forged all the tools from the ax to the planer-mines ... And all in essence being an invalid of the first group. Disability didn’t make out, as my mother said - yes there are a lot of us in vain to interrupt and distract us after the war ..
          2. Zementbomber
            Zementbomber 2 May 2020 14: 35 New
            -1
            Of course. But still - one leg or both - well, this is a very big difference.
        2. Boris Razor
          Boris Razor 3 May 2020 04: 58 New
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          Quote: Zementbomber
          In no way denying the outstanding scale of personality and the multifaceted activities of Major Seversky - NSA, he had only one foot amputated

          But he also had to fly on completely different planes.
          1. Zementbomber
            Zementbomber 4 May 2020 20: 52 New
            +1
            Until 1939, Seversky was also a test pilot chief of the aircraft-building company he headed. This was no longer the time of the “shelves” of the WWI, however. And also - he mastered Spitfire - the aircraft is very strict.
            1. Boris Razor
              Boris Razor 4 May 2020 21: 17 New
              -1
              Quote: Zementbomber
              This was no longer the time of the "whatnots"

              So since 1916 he flew with one leg.
              And the prostheses, for sure, were then completely different than decades later ...

              By the time of the October Revolution of 1917, Lieutenant Prokofiev-Seversky was one of the most famous ace pilots in Russia. He flew 1600 hours, participated in 57 air battles, won 13 victories

              And all this with one leg on the "whatnots"
              1. Zementbomber
                Zementbomber 5 May 2020 04: 34 New
                +1
                Do you really think that piloting fighters of the WWI era was more difficult than fighters of the late 1930s and WWII times ?? belay
                1. Boris Razor
                  Boris Razor 5 May 2020 07: 02 New
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                  With one leg - of course
                  1. Zementbomber
                    Zementbomber 5 May 2020 07: 13 New
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                    This is in Memoris! good laughing
                    1. Boris Razor
                      Boris Razor 5 May 2020 09: 14 New
                      -2
                      Obviously, you have nothing to argue with and you agree with me. Fine.

                      PS: "judging by the desperately powerless minus" - I guessed
                      1. Zementbomber
                        Zementbomber 6 May 2020 12: 33 New
                        +1
                        Well, why nothing? smile - if you are brave enough to try to justify reasonably that it was more difficult to pilot the Sopvich-Camel than the I-16 or MiG-3 - I will spend 10-15 minutes without problems to show the ridiculous absurdity of such arguments. laughing
    2. alstr
      alstr 2 May 2020 13: 46 New
      +2
      Let's just say this - not just legless ones. If I remember correctly, then 49 people who had injuries that were not compatible with flight practice fought on the fronts of the Great Patriotic War. This is not only amputated limbs, but also spinal injuries, etc.
      Of these, only Maresyev is widely known. Thanks book.
      It should be noted that he received the title of GSS before the book (and not as usual after).
      1. Zementbomber
        Zementbomber 2 May 2020 14: 33 New
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        Thanks for the statistics. good
        But so-and-so — the story of Zakharov’s legless fighter pilot, “A Duel in the Snowy Desert” - I still read by Oktyabrenk (I still have this little book in my library). “Baby” (yes, Karl, “Baby” - not even “Detlit”!), 1977. And I would not say that it was “rare”. On the contrary, I don’t remember about Maresyev for this age. It was already 4th or 5th grade.
    3. Alf
      Alf 2 May 2020 18: 17 New
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      Quote: Zementbomber
      PS Negative !!

      But who needs you.
      1. Zementbomber
        Zementbomber 4 May 2020 20: 58 New
        +1
        But who needs you.

        Judging by the desperate and powerless minuscation of almost all my posts - absolutely regardless of their content and tonality - to many. tongue laughing
        However - if I suddenly went here "in big pluses" - then then I would really be a little worried ... laughing
    4. Boris Razor
      Boris Razor 3 May 2020 04: 55 New
      -1
      Quote: Zementbomber
      there he was

      What are the different characters.
      Our 18 days to my crawl. Aglitsky - he was a good prisoner in captivity, he was wearing the clothes of German aces, he had problems with the command, he designed the delivery of prostheses, he wrote down the fascist doctors from the Luftwaffe to fit prostheses more comfortably ...
      1. Zementbomber
        Zementbomber 4 May 2020 21: 04 New
        +1
        The air war at the West European Theater was simply completely different. Back in WWI Air Traditions. For her, this attitude was normal. And even in the same North Africa and in the "Air Battle for the Reich" - it was different. Absolutely. Here, and to shoot paratroopers in the air and shoot the crew on the spot after landing on enemy territory - it was already quite normal.
  9. svp67
    svp67 2 May 2020 10: 47 New
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    For eighteen days, the pilot, with his broken legs crawling through the snow through the forests and swamps, made his way to his own.
    The whole tragedy of the situation turned out to be that he crawled in the wrong direction, sort of in logic, but not in the situation. That is, he crawled towards his territory - to the east, but the configuration of the front line, in that place was such that he crawled to the west, then he would crawl out to the frontline in two days ... It happens. In general, we still had such heroic people at that time, just there was no nearby well-known writer and correspondent .... These are the names of these heroic people who flew and fought after losing their legs or feet ...

    Fighter pilot Belousov Leonid Georgievich,

    Fighter pilot Lyubimov Ivan Stepanovich,

    Pilot bomber Malikov Ilya Antonovich,
    (No photo)
    Fighter pilot Smirnov V.G.,

    Fighter pilot Sorokin Zakhar Artemovich
    1. AU Ivanov.
      AU Ivanov. 2 May 2020 11: 44 New
      +3
      There was no solid front line on the Northwest. There were sections with a “layer cake”
      1. svp67
        svp67 2 May 2020 11: 48 New
        +4
        Quote: AU Ivanov.
        There was no solid front line on the Northwest.

        I’ll tell you a little military secret that a solid front line then, and now only on maps is drawn as a kind of abstract line, and so it is created from the line of strong points of units between which there is a lot of relatively empty space ...
        1. AU Ivanov.
          AU Ivanov. 2 May 2020 12: 27 New
          +3
          The Northwest Front had its own specifics: swamps and swamp forests that were not blocked by enemy davits. During the Demian landing operation, the 1st and 2nd MVDBR were introduced into the boiler through such areas.
        2. Zementbomber
          Zementbomber 2 May 2020 13: 28 New
          +1
          the solid front line then, and now only on maps is drawn as a kind of abstract line, and so it is created from the line of strong points of units between which there is plenty of relatively empty space ...

          In fact - sections (yes extended) with continuous continuous lines of trenches (and quite often - two or even more) - quite to themselves and more than happened in WWII. Including and on the eastern front.
          1. svp67
            svp67 2 May 2020 13: 43 New
            +1
            Quote: Zementbomber
            In fact - sections (yes extended) with continuous continuous lines of trenches (yes often - two or even more)

            Only in your inflamed fantasies, as there was simply no need for them ... or if you count underground communications of the Maginot line for such
            1. Zementbomber
              Zementbomber 2 May 2020 13: 47 New
              +2
              Well - the commanders and the confrontations - of course, may also have "fantasies." And aberration of memory. And even direct and gross falsifications. But nevertheless - to these commanders and confrontations - I believe "a little" more than the unsubstantiated statements of the anonymous author on RuNet ... bully
              1. svp67
                svp67 2 May 2020 13: 52 New
                +1
                Quote: Zementbomber
                Well - the commanders and the confrontations - of course, may also have "fantasies."

                To completely put all the dots on "E", an example of speaking in the studio, because your words do not really have faith ... there are a lot of "lies" and "poison" in them
                Have you ever dug a trench yourself?
                1. Zementbomber
                  Zementbomber 2 May 2020 14: 14 New
                  +1
                  Trench - I’ve never dug it. And even the rifle cell - did not dig. In the jungle - they dug extremely, very rarely at all. Yes, and I had a position - allowing not wield a sapper blade. smile
                  Well, then google the memorials of Gorbatov and Konev (they definitely have it). + Rokossovsky (but here I’m not sure for sure - I reread Soldier Debt a long time ago). Well - check out the disposition of the Northeast Front on 10.05.40/XNUMX/XNUMX - the classic "frozen trench line."
                  1. svp67
                    svp67 2 May 2020 14: 26 New
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                    Quote: Zementbomber
                    Well - check out the disposition of the North-Eastern Front on 10.05.40/XNUMX/XNUMX - the classic "frozen trench line"

                    Excuse me, is this the front of whom with whom?
                    1. Zementbomber
                      Zementbomber 2 May 2020 14: 39 New
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                      Allies against the Wehrmacht and the Waffen-SS at the time of the start of Operation Gelb. smile
                      1. svp67
                        svp67 2 May 2020 14: 43 New
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                        Quote: Zementbomber
                        Allies against the Wehrmacht and the Waffen-SS at the time of the start of Operation Gelb.

                        I hope you know how to read the map, show a solid line of trenches

                        And This is still a small-scale map, I imagine, if you take the “two-layouts”, what disappointments await you ...
                      2. Zementbomber
                        Zementbomber 2 May 2020 15: 08 New
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                        On the map of the STRATEGIC deployment of groupings of several army groups (fronts in the terminology of the Red Army) in each - a line of front edge trenches in a separate (albeit extended) section ?? Wow !! Are you serious ?? laughing
                2. svp67
                  svp67 2 May 2020 14: 33 New
                  +1
                  Quote: Zementbomber
                  Well, then google the memorials of Gorbatov and Konev (they definitely have it). + Rokossovsky (but here I’m not sure for sure - I reread Soldier Debt a long time ago).

                  And also Zhukov, Malinovsky, Batov. etc. etc. ... You just when you read them and you had this opinion, but it is not true.
                  Quote: Zementbomber
                  Trench - I’ve never dug it. And even the rifle cell - did not dig. In the jungle - they dug extremely, very rarely at all. Yes, and I had a position - allowing you not to wield a sapper blade.

                  You see, but you think that there are few such places? Marshes, mountains, and much more ... there is no need to dig continuous trenches and then there was no longer any need. It was already a different war than the PMV
                  1. Zementbomber
                    Zementbomber 2 May 2020 14: 48 New
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                    You just when you read them and you had this opinion, but it is not true.

                    And, I - KANEShNA - wildly sorry, some arguments that it (my opinion is that) - WRONG - Can you bring? Because the very same Leningrad front until the end of January 1944, for example, was at the front edge of the whole "solid SD" - but far from the "field" type. A cooler. And this is known not only from the "memorials".
                    You see, but you think that there are few such places? Marshes, mountains, and much more ... there is no need to dig continuous trenches and then there was no longer any need. It was already a different war than the PMV

                    I know that with the esteemed Moderator - users it is extremely arguable not RecommendedCTSO - but still risk it. laughing Answer, plz, to the question: Do you generally understand the difference between “extended” (kilometers and tens of kilometers) and “continuous in the scale of the front” (hundreds of kilometers) ??
                    1. svp67
                      svp67 2 May 2020 15: 10 New
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                      Quote: Zementbomber
                      "solid SD" - but far from the "field" type. A cooler. And this is known not only from the "memorials".

                      SD is always created in the form of an “archipelago” of field fortifications and bunkers ... but again it does not have continuous trenches along its entire length. It is enough to take a map or diagram of any URa
                      Quote: Zementbomber
                      I know that it is highly not recommended to argue with the respected Moderator - users

                      A lot of knowledge - a lot of trouble ... And in your case there’s also “grief from the mind”, don’t break the rules and what problems, sports, even to hoarseness.
                      Quote: Zementbomber
                      Do you generally understand the difference between “long” (kilometers and tens of kilometers) and “continuous in the scale of the front” (hundreds of kilometers) ??

                      I understand perfectly. But here you seem not. They tried to refer to the allies, but I brought you a map where there is no "frozen trench line", but there is a classic defense built on the strongholds of platoons, companies, battalions
                    2. Zementbomber
                      Zementbomber 2 May 2020 15: 48 New
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                      SD is always created in the form of an “archipelago” of field fortifications and bunkers ... but again it does not have continuous trenches along its entire length. It is enough to take a map or diagram of any URa

                      You forgot to add - "Soviet pre-war ur." They yes - indeed they were built on the principle of “BRO ensembles + field filling”. But the War - made its (and very significant) adjustments. Field URs of the fronts of 1942 and subsequent years. - were completely differently organized and built.
                      They tried to refer to the allies, but I brought you a map where there is no "frozen trench line", but there is a classic defense built on the strongholds of platoons, companies, battalions

                      Of course, I wildly apologize - but on the map you quoted - not formations of less than division ... hi Moreover, these compounds are designated in the areas of deployment, and not directly at the positions ...
        3. AU Ivanov.
          AU Ivanov. 2 May 2020 14: 09 New
          +4
          Almost the entire defensive line of Leningrad was continuous. The city was surrounded by trenches. The Rzhev-Vyazemsky defensive line, almost all the way to Ostashkov, is full of trenches, pillboxes, anti-tank ditches along the entire left bank of the Volga.
          1. svp67
            svp67 2 May 2020 14: 18 New
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            Quote: AU Ivanov.
            Almost the entire defensive line of Leningrad was continuous.

            Sorry, the solid line of defense does not mean continuous trenches ... they just do not make sense and our great-grandfathers were not so stupid and wasteful to dig them, as they already had enough work in fortifying equipment. The stronghold of the unit simply cut through the trenches like a human body with blood veins.
            Quote: AU Ivanov.
            along the entire left bank of the Volga there are trenches, bunkers, anti-tank ditches.

            That’s what the ditch could be long, I believe that, because using civilian labor they tried to dig as much as possible, often even to the detriment, as happened on the very Kursk Bulge. But trenches, such that from the beginning to the end of the entire front edge, did not dig along the entire front line. Too expensive and has no sense, due to the features of the same area
            1. Zementbomber
              Zementbomber 2 May 2020 14: 53 New
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              a solid line of defense does not imply continuous trenches ... they simply do not make sense and our great-grandfathers were not so stupid and wasteful to dig them, as they already had enough work in fortifying equipment.

              Yes, it doesn’t mean automatically. That is yes. But - quite even admits. "Meaning" - depends excl. from tactical. the setting. Density of forces and assets on the site for example.
              1. svp67
                svp67 2 May 2020 15: 02 New
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                Quote: Zementbomber
                Density of forces and assets on the site for example.

                For this, digging continuous trenches from edge to edge is not necessary. A line is being created that allows maneuvering his troops for delivering both counterattacks and the strikes themselves. Yes, and there is no need to keep troops in some areas, so as not to turn them into targets. The main principle of defense, the creation of a harmonious fire system and engineering barriers.
                1. Zementbomber
                  Zementbomber 2 May 2020 15: 16 New
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                  The main principle of defense, the creation of a harmonious fire system and engineering barriers.

                  Which - all of a sudden! laughing - implemented by various methods. From the creation of platoon strongholds, the intervals between which are covered only by long-range machine-gun fire, and to the creation of a continuous fortified strip with ten trenches in depth, and two-strip concrete structures.
      2. Boris Razor
        Boris Razor 3 May 2020 05: 18 New
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        Quote: Zementbomber
        solid continuous lines

        In the case of the Earth and the trench, this should be a cross section of the ellipsoid (in the necessary approximation) by the surface and it should definitely be closed.
  • AU Ivanov.
    AU Ivanov. 2 May 2020 12: 42 New
    +4
    There were more than 10 such pilots who lost limbs and returned to duty. And two more: Prokofiev-Seversky and Lieutenant Gilscher flew with prostheses to the First World War.
  • Olgovich
    Olgovich 2 May 2020 15: 45 New
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    Quote: svp67
    That is, he crawled towards his territory - to the east, but the configuration of the front line, in that place was such that he crawled to the west, then he would crawl to the front line in two ...

    the fall site was in our rear and the front line, he did not cross, he crawled along the Lutetsk swamp. stretching from west to east, where on the east the shore was found.

    his GSS friend tarred the U-2 and drove it to Moscow. where they saved him.

    his plane was dismantled and taken out for spare parts.

    https://histrf.ru/biblioteka/b/kak-na-samom-dielie-vyzhil-mariesiev
  • bubalik
    bubalik 2 May 2020 18: 15 New
    +8
    Fighter pilot Sorokin Zakhar Artemovich
    ,,, generally a striking case. It’s not clear what our films are made about. No need to invent anything, a finished plot.

    October 25 1941, the pilot of the 72 th mixed aviation regiment of the Northern Fleet Air Force Zakhar Sorokin made an air ram to the wounded, landed in the tundra, destroyed two German pilots with a dog, and then 6 made his way to his own days, breaking the 70 km. Having froze his legs and having lost both feet, he nevertheless returned to his regiment and continued to destroy the Germans.
    Zakhar Sorokin shot down 18 airplanes, of which 12 - on prostheses. soldier
  • Doccor18
    Doccor18 2 May 2020 11: 01 New
    +1
    I read a book about this Great Man in childhood. An indelible impression made on my whole
    a life. By the way, I was in the school curriculum. And now ... no. He gave this book to his children, read, see what kind of people lived in our country ...
    1. sabakina
      sabakina 2 May 2020 11: 24 New
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      Alexander, after reading the book, what were their impressions?
      1. Doccor18
        Doccor18 2 May 2020 11: 26 New
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        Not like mine. Some of them (children now) are different, not at all like us at one time. Read it all. But there is no fire in the eyes.
        1. sabakina
          sabakina 2 May 2020 11: 29 New
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          Alexander, you probably won’t be surprised, but I expected this answer. Maybe they should show the movie better? Books were good when there was no tyrnet ...
          1. Doccor18
            Doccor18 2 May 2020 11: 34 New
            +1
            Yes, books, in principle, are read by many, but modern and more often foreign writers.
            We just perceived the information more lively, believed, lived it. And the modern generation does not believe. Just "eats" information and that's it.
            1. sabakina
              sabakina 2 May 2020 11: 43 New
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              Yes, Alexander, for them it’s just information and nothing more ...
        2. Zementbomber
          Zementbomber 2 May 2020 14: 01 New
          +1
          Some of them (children now) are different, not at all like us at one time. Read it all. But there is no fire in the eyes.

          Yes, they have a "fire in the eyes." The current ones are small - they are more "visual", more critical, more cynical and more intelligent than we are in the end - but there is still a "fire". Not everyone. Not at all. Well - this “fire" - and in our years - really was far, far from all. And so - for example, in the battalion in which my current secretary fought in the Southeast in 2014 - almost one out of ten even had 18 then in the passport. And these guys and girls didn’t go to war at all for the Main-Reid romance. And quite aware that it is dirt, sweat ,. blood, stupidity of command, etc. "delights." And the separs and "their" volunteers - it was exactly the same.
          1. Bumblebee_3
            Bumblebee_3 2 May 2020 17: 53 New
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            Zementbomber (Sergey)
            Do you know what is the difference between you and LDNR? These people protect their home, their land. And you need a "living space". In the same way as the Nazis.
            1. Zementbomber
              Zementbomber 4 May 2020 21: 15 New
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              I will not enter into the comments on the article about the exploits of those Soviet pilots who, by all accounts of even those harsh times, relied on disability and honors in retirement with rewards and a good pension - rather than continuing to serve in the fighter’s cockpit. I’ll just note that you probably consider the Republic of Tuva - an integral part of your Fatherland - even if you were born and live in Murmansk or Smolensk. And if the “people of Tuva" —decides to declare independence with the support of Mongolia and mainland China — either you will go to fight against it, or you will help to counteract this by all available means.
              Something like this ...
  • Vasily Ponomarev
    Vasily Ponomarev 2 May 2020 11: 17 New
    0
    Look, my question is off topic, does anyone know the data on how many millions of tons of munitions were used up in the Second World War by country
    1. AU Ivanov.
      AU Ivanov. 2 May 2020 13: 18 New
      +3
      A lot of. Lots of. Unrealistic a lot. He was at a search job on the Nevsky Piglet and near Rzhev. There the earth rings on a metal detector, it is packed with iron.
      1. alstr
        alstr 2 May 2020 20: 32 New
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        As well as on the Nevsky Piglet. In the 60s, search squads sifted a meter of land. Found 10 kg of metal. And this is clearly not the limit.
        1. Skyscream
          Skyscream 5 August 2020 14: 49 New
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          We dug with Summakul's son, not for profit, but for the sake of interest. The coil screams in your ears continuously! The earth around the pillboxes is simply stuffed with fragments of different calibers and very bizarre shapes! The field is the same. And this is not the most difficult positioning of the Second World War. In addition, grenade shirts, casings, cartridges, empty and full clips, horse harness parts, shovels, thorns, metal stakes, flasks, pots, mugs, PPM, min 82mm tails. And it's even scary to think about Nevsky or Rzhev!
    2. Zementbomber
      Zementbomber 5 May 2020 04: 43 New
      +1
      Look, my question is off topic, does anyone know the data on how many millions of tons of munitions were used up in the Second World War by country

      By country - not interested. The total consumption by the Armed Forces (without rifle cartridges and hand and - probably - rifle grenades) - is estimated, EMNIS, at ~ 8 million tons.
  • Van 16
    Van 16 2 May 2020 11: 47 New
    +2
    I reread the book countless times. It really is about a Real Man.
  • Pvi1206
    Pvi1206 2 May 2020 12: 25 New
    0
    young people learn from the examples of the older generation ... who is now an example ... Kirkorov ... cord ...
    1. AU Ivanov.
      AU Ivanov. 2 May 2020 12: 53 New
      +4
      So young people need to be taught, not to let education go by its own accord.
  • boris epstein
    boris epstein 2 May 2020 13: 37 New
    +3
    Yes. The feat of such people is amazing. And P Maresyev is not alone. In 2003, Hero of the Soviet Union died twice, Artillery Lieutenant General Vasily Stepanovich Petrov. The only person in the world who fought without both hands. He was seriously injured in repelling a tank attack. Already without hands in 1945, he commanded an anti-tank regiment. After the war, he wrote the book "The Past With Us."
    1. Avior
      Avior 3 May 2020 00: 44 New
      +2
      Pavel Hudz cut off his hand with a knife when a shell hit the tank in battle near the Dnieper, the hand was crushed, and comrades urgently needed help.
      He continued to fight with a prosthesis.

      He is a participant in the parade on November 7, 1941.
  • Vasily Ponomarev
    Vasily Ponomarev 2 May 2020 16: 51 New
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    Quote: AU Ivanov.
    A lot of. Lots of. Unrealistic a lot. He was at a search job on the Nevsky Piglet and near Rzhev. There the earth rings on a metal detector, it is packed with iron.

    Yes, I understand that, but would I have any data, read about it somehow, do you have it?
    1. AU Ivanov.
      AU Ivanov. 2 May 2020 17: 24 New
      +2
      About exploration work or military operations?
  • Moon
    Moon 2 May 2020 20: 16 New
    0
    The story of a real man left an indelible vivid impression of the pilot and his struggle for life and for the country. He caught himself thinking that he represented very vividly, as if he was watching a movie in his head or even was nearby.
    In general, I very vividly imagine reading books.
    And I repeat - the Iron Generation ... We can’t make it so modern.
  • Avior
    Avior 3 May 2020 00: 38 New
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    . In the post-war period, the example of A. Maresyev was widely used to educate the younger generation.

    When I was at school, we corresponded with Alexei Petrovich, we have a pioneer squad bore his name.
    By the way, in those days his surname was usually sounded in the version of Polevoy-Meresyev.
  • Vasily Ponomarev
    Vasily Ponomarev 5 May 2020 11: 06 New
    0
    Quote: Zementbomber
    Look, my question is off topic, does anyone know the data on how many millions of tons of munitions were used up in the Second World War by country

    By country - not interested. The total consumption by the Armed Forces (without rifle cartridges and hand and - probably - rifle grenades) - is estimated, EMNIS, at ~ 8 million tons.

    hmm, in this article https://vpk-news.ru/articles/7856 completely different data, much more than 8 million
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