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Grass quinoa in peacetime and wartime


Quinoa. It happens green, it happens red

The theme of hunger and war, of course, cannot ignore the question of the swan and the bread baked from it. This article appeared, so to speak, at the numerous requests of the working people. “They often ask us,” the legendary Armenian radio said. So, quinoa and how to eat it.

True, the result of the study, perhaps not too fundamental, turned out to be somewhat discouraging. Everyone knows about the quinoa and about the fact that it was eaten during the hungry years, but there are almost no details about it. I managed to find a recipe for bread from quinoa, more precisely, from a mixture of quinoa and bran, which was tested by Maxim Edlin from Moscow State Technical University. K.G. Razumovsky. But this recipe is not peasant, but wartime. And that's all for now. In my opinion, even William Pokhlebkin, a great connoisseur of Russian cuisine and its storiesThe deceased, bypassed this topic.

In any case, in the whole grief of all literature devoted to the grain business before the revolution and after it, in all kinds of surveys of peasant farms and agricultural technology of cereals, I did not come across references to quinoa, not to mention a detailed analysis of what it is and how it was used. Even in botanical studies, a little attention is devoted to the swan.

A little paradox: everyone knows, but without details. Let's try to figure it out.

The bread seemed to be bad, but the peasants baked and ate it

There is an opinion, still pre-revolutionary, that quinoa bread is bitter, unpleasant in taste and actually not suitable for food. L.N. wrote about this bread Tolstoy at the time of the famine of 1891. The peasants of the Tula province, where the writer had a manor, baked bread with a swan, and with unripe, with green grains. Bread with such a swan caused vomiting. Writers asked scientists why there was no study of the nutritional properties of quinoa. Professor A.F. Batalin (real state adviser, director of the Imperial Botanical Garden) in the same 1891 answered that quinoa flour is similar to rye, but its digestibility is poor. Professor of the Department of Hygiene at Moscow University F.F. Erisman was very negative about using quinoa. Finally, Professor N. Semenov in 1893 conducted a study of quinoa flour, determining its composition: 7% fat, 49% nitrogen-free extractive substances (mainly hydrocarbons: sugars, starch and others), 17% nitrogenous substances, mainly proteins. The quinoa bread, pure or mixed with rye flour, the professor experienced on himself. The result is so-so: bread is disgusting to the taste, you can’t eat a lot of it, weight loss and poor health were noted from eating.

It would seem that the verdict of scientists is completely unambiguous. However, the same Tolstoy wrote that bread and swans were eaten not only by poor peasants from hunger, but also in rich peasant farms. The first farm, where bread was baked with quinoa, had its own thresher, four horses, had a supply of oats, potatoes, buckwheat, and a small supply of rye (the year was barren for rye). The farm is kulak, but all 12 eaters ate bread with quinoa.

So the opinion of the peasants, with their powerful estimates and iron practicality, came into clear contradiction with the opinion of the professors. The peasants not only ate the quinoa, but even sowed it, sometimes with rye. The whole question is: why?

Green conveyor

Let’s go on the other side and ask ourselves: what is quinoa and how is it grown? This family includes 250 species, but garden quinoa was of nutritional value. She has been known since time immemorial, her first description was made by Theophrastus BC. It was grown throughout Eurasia, from Spain to Tibet and Bengal. In Europe, it began to be actively eaten around 1200 as an analogue and substitute for spinach, like greens. In the same quality, quinoa is grown now. It was also used as a medicine in folk medicine and as a source of blue or green tissue dye.

The culture is characterized by phenomenal weather resistance. It easily tolerates droughts, it is enough from 30 to 140 mm of precipitation per year. Wheat does not ripen under such conditions. Quinoa grows well on acidic and sandy soils, tolerates salinity. Its resistance to cold and frost is striking. Quinoa can be sown as a winter crop, and seedlings appear immediately after thawing the soil. In Germany, it is sown in February, in Russia it is sown immediately after thawing the soil (in early April), and after 7-15 days the quinoa sprouts. By the way, you can not sow; quinoa propagates by self-sowing and can be grown as a perennial culture.

The culture is fast growing. Already on the 20th-25th day after the shoots, quinoa gives leaves that are eatable, and on the 40-60th day it already releases buds. Therefore, quinoa is planted on greens several times in the spring, from the first sowing in early April and then two weeks before June, that is, five or even six sowings. It is also possible to sow in August and September, before the cold, she also manages to give enough greenery. They remove it either by cutting the stem, leaving the lower leaves, and in a month it grows again, or simply cutting off the lower, largest leaves. Watering and fertilizing with urea give good growth and delicate, soft greens.

According to the thesis of Victor Epifantsev (2012), field cultivation of quinoa gives from 12 to 17 tons per hectare, and garden sowing gives 1,5-2 kg of greenery per square meter per season or 15-20 tons per hectare. In addition, the grain yield is 1,2 tons per hectare or 12 centners per hectare, which is comparable to the yield of millet - a typical insurance, drought-resistant crop.

Well, what can I say? Green conveyor!

Greens and grain quinoa

Now let's look at this plant with an inquisitive peasant look. As a culture "to maintain the pants" - it’s better not to come up with! Sowing quinoa in early April, using only thawed mud, you can get foliage on April 25-30, just at the time when spring cultivation and sowing of spring crops, wheat, rye, oats, and barley are in progress. Field work is hard, you need to eat, and the farm has already eaten up supplies, there is only a little bit of flour and grain for seeds. The green of quinoa helps out a lot. The composition of greens per 100 grams of the product: 0,8 grams of fat, 4,2 grams of protein, 7,3 grams of carbohydrates, calories - 43 kcal. By caloric content, it is about 40% inferior to potatoes, but contains eight times more fat and twice as much protein. Therefore, feeding on the green of the quinoa during the period of heavy field work and a large expenditure of energy is quite a solution. Greens can be baked, added to soup or cabbage soup or just eat raw. I plowed the plot, let the horse graze and rest (the working horse must be protected, it will not be bred and the other will not be given; therefore, every 2-3 hours of plowing it is necessary to rest the animal), and he himself went to pinch the quinoa. Grams of 800 rye bread and a kilogram of green quinoa give about 2500 kcal, which is enough for work. 20-30 stalks of quinoa may well feed the peasant in spring work.

You can eat green quinoa with vegetables in the summer, until a new crop of bread and potatoes. He planted a quinoa on the edge of the field, in the garden and on haymaking, where the peasant usually works in the summer, and now the pasture is ready.

Now grain and baking quinoa bread. In my opinion, making flour from quinoa was a peasant secret that was not shared with anyone, and therefore the St. Petersburg professors, together with the landowner, did not know about it. Professor Semenov, already mentioned, made quinoa bread, grinding the whole grain, together with a stiff bark, the sharp parts of which injured the intestines. But in the collection of pre-revolutionary bread recipes in case of crop failure it is said that quinoa grain must be carefully prepared. The technology is similar to producing barley or oatmeal. The grain of the quinoa is first sieved from foreign seeds. Then they push in a mortar to free from grassy bark, then boil boiling water and dry in an oven. After drying, the grain is again pounded in a mortar to free from the blackish bark and highlight the white core of the grain.

On the left is the grain of the quinoa, on the right is the grain of buckwheat. Normally processed and peeled quinoa grain is quite a good product

It can be ground into flour or used as cereal. Another way, faster, was to pass the quinoa twice through the millstones, and then wean the flour from the chaff. You can cook porridge from cereals, and flour is mixed with rye flour and baked bread.

There is one more nuance that you need to know. The quinoa grain does not ripen at once. The lower fruits ripen earlier and turn yellow, and the upper ones are still in the ovary stage. Grain is harvested when more than half of the fruits turn yellow. Plants are cut off and placed to ripen for one or two weeks in a ventilated area. After that, the quinoa is threshed and the grain is treated as described above.

Now it’s becoming clear that bad quinoa bread is a product of technology disruption. Black as a lump of earth, disgusting to the taste and vomiting bread from a quinoa definitely turned out if an unripe grain was put into the grinding, and even with the bark, which clearly enhanced the effect. The same bread can be baked from wheat or rye, if you grind flour from unripe or sprouted grain. It’s not the quinoa that’s to blame, but the crooked bakers who can spoil even first-class flour.

Grass quinoa in peacetime and wartime

Unlucky able to do something inedible, even from suitable products. For such mockery, it would be worth feeding the crooked-handed baker his own products. For educational purposes, so to speak

A good baker can bake a lot of bread. For example, there is a recipe for flour from wheat or rye straw, which is ground into the smallest section, and then ground on a millstone. The yield of a small, suitable flour is about a third of the cut, but when mixed with bread flour in proportion one part of the straw and two parts of the bread flour is tasty bread. In modern terms, this is the addition of food pulp. So there’s no need to say that this is bad quinoa. You need to know a way.

Quinoa in the food industry

In the military-food economy, quinoa, most likely, should take the place of garden crops, for small plots and self-supply in cities and towns. First of all, it is worth growing for the sake of greenery, which leaves a lot, this greenery grows very quickly and just at a time when additional nutrition along with vitamins is most needed, that is, in spring and early summer.

Due to its cold resistance, quinoa is very suitable for greenhouses heated in the cold season, where it should grow and give greenery all year round. In addition, there are interesting varieties of greenhouses that can maintain room temperature even in winter without additional heating. In combination with LED backlighting, it should turn out very well: a year-round green conveyor that gives fresh greens with good nutritional value.

On larger farms, quinoa can be sown, firstly, as a forage crop, secondly, as an insurance crop, in case the year turned out to be too cold or too dry and ordinary breads did not degenerate, and thirdly, as a crop , which occupies lands unsuitable for other crops, especially on dry and saline soils, however, the yield will be lower.

As a grain crop of quinoa, it belongs to the northern regions, which are especially extensive in our country. Rye, if you get a hold of it, can be grown beyond the Arctic Circle, but nevertheless, quinoa will yield the same crop with less effort and on worse soils.

So, if any adversary expects to starve us to starvation in the event of a protracted war, he is very mistaken.
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  1. iouris
    iouris 1 May 2020 15: 06 New
    Thanks for the helpful article series. Harsh time. Coming even more severe. And how could I forget about the swan?
    1. To be or not to be
      To be or not to be 1 May 2020 16: 47 New
      Do not forget the hemp undeservedly driven into oblivion ..
    2. Bar1
      Bar1 2 May 2020 08: 33 New
      Yes it would not be a problem,
      If there was food here, -
      If there were a quinoa,
      Duck went b and quinoa! ..

      about Fedot archer.
      1. Grandfather
        Grandfather 3 May 2020 05: 04 New
        like a normal Soviet boy, I spent all my holidays in the villages, sometimes at one grandmother's at another's with my grandfather .. grandfather flogged, I was a hooligan ... happy time, grandfather whipped in the evening, fishing with my bad ass in the morning, with Grandfather! (if anything, then on "Izh49" nine kilometers to the river (and the ass still remembers) an ear in a front-line bowler hat made of a pike caught by his grandfather at dawn (zherlitsa), what "offenses" are there ... HAPPINESS in its purest form! grandfather and grandmother, they added it to BREAD, delicious!
  2. svp67
    svp67 1 May 2020 15: 08 New
    Thank. Pretty interesting article. I remember my father told me that yes, during the post-war famine, only porridge and bread from quinoa were saved. And they were saved, three brothers grew up and became people ...
    1. Olgovich
      Olgovich 3 May 2020 10: 05 New
      Quote: svp67
      I remember my father told me that yes, during the post-war famine, only porridge and bread from quinoa were saved.

      Yes. Mom also talked about this: it happened during the occupation, and somewhere until 1947 they cooked and ate quinoa, nettle, sorrel, and some other roots and mushrooms. raspberries. blueberries-everything that they could find in the forest ...

      Thanks to the author, again an interesting article!

      I didn’t think that there were ... fats in the swan!
      1. volodimer
        volodimer 3 May 2020 19: 04 New
        Dmitry well done, so you look at tapinambur and swan, we will survive this difficult time. laughing
        Although I did not come across a swan in Primorye, but tapinambur is like a weed that cannot be gotten rid of.
        There is also sorrel, nettle, wild leek, horsetail, and fern. That's what in winter except pine needles and cones? There is still manzhursky nut, the pulp is not enough, but it is useful.
        Hope to continue the series of these articles! hi
        1. volodimer
          volodimer 3 May 2020 21: 03 New
          For Dmitry, there is still a spring supply of sugars that have not been considered. This is ours - birch sap, even with flesh repeat
          but Canadians collect maple, and we can also be different, because Primorye is rich in maple and birch. The collection is simple, and the distillation into syrup or with the addition of yeast to alcohol in a military environment is easy to organize.
  3. Free wind
    Free wind 1 May 2020 15: 09 New
    Comrades, there’s some kind of perdimonokol.
    1. lis-ik
      lis-ik 2 May 2020 10: 27 New
      Quote: Free Wind
      Comrades, there’s some kind of perdimonokol.

      So we are preparing a little, with such a guide, only pasture and shine.
  4. Pessimist22
    Pessimist22 1 May 2020 15: 17 New
    It is interesting, but what in huge Russia besides a quinoa there is nothing more? Now Jerusalem artichoke, now quinoa smile
    1. Mordvin 3
      Mordvin 3 1 May 2020 15: 21 New
      Quote: Pessimist22
      Now Jerusalem artichoke, now quinoa

      We also mentioned PVA, wood glue, nettles, burdocks, and I still don’t remember what. So it's not evening yet.
    2. dvina71
      dvina71 1 May 2020 16: 01 New
      there is still bean .. The evil Bolsheviks, during the drought of 34-37gg in Ukraine. They distributed bean grains into yards and told how to grow it. To moisture it is demanding mainly during the germination period. And it is less demanding on conditions than many legumes and grains. But it’s very nutritious and rich in all sorts of usefulness. My grandmother, hails from near Donetsk and at that time she was 7 years old .., all her life she cooked bread, soup, pies from beans.
      1. Krasnoyarsk
        Krasnoyarsk 1 May 2020 16: 44 New
        Quote: dvina71
        there is still bean ..

        What could be tastier than bean soup on boiled chicken stock in a Russian oven?
        1. dvina71
          dvina71 1 May 2020 17: 19 New
          Quote: Krasnoyarsk
          Russian stove?

          In the Russian oven, even pearl barley is a delicacy ... We arrived somehow to a friend in a Pomeranian house .. the main stove is Russian. The owner puts pearl barley in a pot, pours water and into the oven. It turned out to be that kind of ...
        2. AU Ivanov.
          AU Ivanov. 3 May 2020 10: 36 New
          Bean soup with beef broth made from sugar seeds.
  5. Koval Sergey
    Koval Sergey 1 May 2020 15: 18 New
    Dmitry knew that it was you. Are you getting ready for war? smile But it’s interesting to read you yes
  6. K-50
    K-50 1 May 2020 15: 20 New
    garden sowing gives 1,5-2 kg of greens with hectare per season or 15-20 tons with hectare.

    Somewhere something is not right here. what
    In the photo: fried in machine oil? belay
    Enchanting !!! fellow
    Then it is better completely without oil, only the temperature should be lower and the oven longer. lol
    1. depressant
      depressant 1 May 2020 15: 37 New
      Yes, colleague, I also hung over the fragment you selected))
      As for the use of quinoa as food, then, according to my grandmother, they ate it in the Kuban when there was a famine. But in my view, quinoa somehow formed into a weed. It seemed to me that the leaves were eating))
  7. mole
    mole 1 May 2020 15: 31 New
    My grandmother told me that during the war the swans survived. Only bellies swollen.
  8. Egor-dis
    Egor-dis 1 May 2020 15: 34 New
    The main problem is to single out the garden quinoa from 250 species.

    The question is after - about the amaranth has already been or still will be?

    Article plus.
  9. Gardamir
    Gardamir 1 May 2020 15: 40 New
    Interesting! Cognitively! But it turns out that you need to deal with quinoa seriously. Unless you specifically plant, where are you going to collect it.
    1. Uncle lee
      Uncle lee 1 May 2020 15: 50 New
      Quote: Gardamir
      take seriously

      Sow the quinoa on the shore
      Sow the quinoa on the shore
      My big nursery
      My big green one.

      The quinoa burned without rain,
      The quinoa burned without rain,
      My big nursery
      My big green one.
    2. Kote Pan Kokhanka
      Kote Pan Kokhanka 2 May 2020 08: 34 New
      Quote: Gardamir
      Interesting! Cognitively! But it turns out that you need to deal with quinoa seriously. Unless you specifically plant, where are you going to collect it.

      Author theorist!
      I do not think that the pre-revolutionary professors themselves baked quinoa bread for themselves! So blaming the latter for "clumsy paws" in the first place is unwise!
      I suggest just thinking about the name of the culture - "LE-TROUBLE"! From my grandfather I heard an even more prosaic “SUMMER-TROUBLE” (emphasis on the second “E”! That is, initially the culture was grown for the time of trouble, hard times!
      The grazing peasants are tough, but the grazing horse is the norm !!!
      Bread from quinoa and bran is disgusting, but you want to eat and eat it! But the addition to rye flour is the norm! There is a taste, but not fatal !!!
      I say because I tried. Grandmother in distant years added quinoa to homemade bread and ... rye dough for ravioli with cabbage! Grandfather cursed, “it’s not accepted to eat your summer fable in hamayuniya, why there is no flour at home”! Grandma threatened to send him to the store! Grandfather sometimes freaked out, and ..... went to the Emkin store, across the road! Exactly 20 meters from the bed to the counter !!!
      She made pure bread at the request of my bati! Everyone bit him, there were only elders !!! I still remember the words of my grandfather, “yes, our front-line Masha was tastier - the rear!”
      But cabbage dumplings made from rye flour with a swan burst all for a sweet soul. The whole family first sculpted them in the kitchen, then grandmother put water, and dumplings were taken out in the cold. We ate straight from the kitchen table, with butter, pepper for milk!
      The second time I tried bread from bran and quinoa from friends! The impression was also the same as in childhood - disgusting, but I dream of rye dumplings with cabbage! How many did not try to repeat, all the same not that!
      Regards, Vlad!
      1. Storekeeper
        Storekeeper 2 May 2020 15: 24 New
        And my grandmother, on the contrary, could not eat her in the war, immediately vomited. She said anything, she ate only not a quinoa. And in the garden it was always the first to pop it out only for the first time sprouts appeared immediately tearing them out!
        I give a quinoa to a pig in the summer in the heat when they poorly eat half a bucket of leaves of a quinoa and eat half a bucket of water without a trace! Stalks like to nibble but do not eat chew and spit.
        1. Kote Pan Kokhanka
          Kote Pan Kokhanka 2 May 2020 15: 38 New
          I have already bawled about horses and peasants on arable land!
          By the way, piglets are eating nettles for a sweet soul! Although they ate shameless to break into the garden - all the trouble, only goats are worse !!!
          Now mother was “tortured” by how much the grandmother of quinoa added rye flour! He says that just a little, for sourness !!!
  10. acetophenon
    acetophenon 1 May 2020 15: 52 New
    Really interesting. There are such ... fans: "survivalists". Fire is produced by friction and slippers are made from tires. But quinoa bread "won't fit" them. Not glamorous. This is for "quilted jackets". stop
  11. businessv
    businessv 1 May 2020 15: 57 New
    So, if any adversary expects to starve us to starvation in the event of a protracted war, he is very mistaken.
    Thank you, Dmitry, for a useful and interesting article! You correctly said about: everyone heard, but no one knows the details! After reading it, I understand that I did not know anything about the quinoa! Thanks again and May Day! good
  12. Mouse
    Mouse 1 May 2020 16: 22 New
    what did the hedgehogs eat ... run out? go to the quinoa? recourse nettle, dandelions in reserve ....
  13. Uncle Izya
    Uncle Izya 1 May 2020 16: 35 New
    Something like pearl barley and not a quinoa
    inst. Mosk. univ., a person assimilates no more than 41,5% of those found in swan bread (75% L. and 25% coarse rye flour) nitrogenous substances. Sulmenev received the same results (in hygiene. lab. military medical Acad.), from the work of which it is clear that the digestibility of swan bread gradually decreases as the impurity to L. decreases. rye flour: at 1/2 h. L. and 1/2 hour rye. flour absorbed by nitrogen. things. 45,44% and at 3/4 h. L. and 1/4 rye. flour absorbed by nitrogen. things. 41,81%. From pure L. bread is digested by nitrogen. things. 29,63%. Consequently, the digestibility of nitrogen of swan bread is very small and can drop to 29,6%. Some other components of this bread, i.e. e. fat and nitrogen-free substances are absorbed, apparently, better than proteins; but fiber passes through the human digestive tract unchanged; in the study of dense eruptions of people eating swan bread, it turned out that L.'s seed peel not only does not dissolve under the influence of digestive juices, but even as if it is still condensed (Stefanovsky). In addition, the extremely small amount eaten by experienced subjects on a day of swan bread attracts attention: people who are used to eating 2-3 fn. rye bread, overpowered swan bread no more than 3/4-1 / 2 fn .; accustomed to more delicate food, they are not able to eat more than 1/2 to 2/3 fn. swan bread per day; attempts to take large quantities of it cause nausea and other unpleasant subjective sensations. Under these conditions, it is clear that bread containing more significant amounts of L. is not only on its own, but even in a mixture with other food substances (potatoes, buckwheat porridge, sunflower oil, etc.). e.) unable to maintain the nitrogen balance of the test subjects, and that the latter, with this method of nutrition, daily lose a lot of nitrogen in their body and, during the experimental time, significantly decrease in weight (Popov, Sulmenev). In general, when eating exclusively swan. with bread, the test subjects quickly become exhausted (starving), turn pale, sometimes feel tinnitus, dizziness, tightness in the stomach, become incapable of mental or physical work; their body temperature drops slightly, the number of heartbeats decreases (Popov). Recent phenomena suggest the idea of ​​being in L. some harmful or even toxic principle, and this assumption finds some confirmation in the fact that out of 6 rats, which are hygienic. inst. Mosk. univ. fed with swan bread, 5 died during the first days, and upon opening them, the phenomena of acute gastroenteritis were found. There is no doubt, further, that in humans, sharp fragments of the seed peel, which is found in large quantities in swan bread, can cause irritation of the digestive tract, starting from the mucous membrane of the mouth and ending with the colon. - From the public health point of view, those phenomena that are swan bread deserve serious attention. It causes, not for people eating it, a scientific experiment for 2-3 days, but for those who are doomed to this food by need and use it for a more or less long time. The nature of the phenomena, in general, is the same for both. Zemstvo doctors in poor areas, in 1891/92, unanimously pointed out that eating Lebedy mixed bread causes stomach pain, vomiting, diarrhea, and generally all signs of gastroenteritis; chronic gastritis with such nutrition is aggravated, flatulence and sometimes painful urges to defecate and urinate, if it is impossible to satisfy them, is aggravated. Severe anemia, headaches, fainting, general apathy, poor nutrition, inability to work and generally a decrease in all vital functions are a natural consequence of Lebed’s continued nutrition and the resulting gastrointestinal upset. This is most strongly reflected in the elderly and in children, who carry food worse than others with an admixture of L.; children often notice a strong bloating, and sometimes they directly refuse L. of bread. Mortality between children, under the influence of surrogate bread with L., is significantly increased. All these phenomena are extremely difficult to treat by medical means and are second only to stop eating swan bread. Such are the sad consequences of replacing rye bread with a substitute from L., such are the results of experiments on the value of L. as a nutrient. They show that L. seeds, along with a significant content of nutritious material (nitrogenous substances, fat, starch), possess such negative qualities (disgusting bitter taste, inability to separate the seed peel from grain, a huge amount of fiber insoluble in human digestive juices, irritating effect fragments of the seed coat, the impossibility of obtaining good loose bread, etc.
  14. Masha
    Masha 1 May 2020 16: 37 New
    Here is a fool, then I ... blur out ....
    Quinoa, quinoa, why are you good!
    1. Boratsagdiev
      Boratsagdiev 1 May 2020 19: 05 New
      From young nettle, "green cabbage soup" is not bad)
      1. Kote Pan Kokhanka
        Kote Pan Kokhanka 2 May 2020 08: 42 New
        You can slam a lot, but is it necessary?
        A friend of mine boasted that he ate sabachatin! Specially ordered in a restaurant, Chinese cuisine in the capital! Now he is not a handshake for me. If I ate a cat, I would personally suffocate!
        Regards, Kote!
        1. Boratsagdiev
          Boratsagdiev 2 May 2020 13: 11 New
          Well, compared)
          Sorrel is also like weed grass, but you can also make a salad and cabbage soup from it.
          You just did not eat good "green cabbage soup" ... additional dressing also plays a role in them.
          I prefer to add a spoonful of sour cream and half an egg (cooked in a steep).
          But of course I don’t always have such a meal, and sometimes for a change (and it’s good for the body).
          1. Kote Pan Kokhanka
            Kote Pan Kokhanka 2 May 2020 14: 11 New
            Quote: BoratSagdiev
            Well, compared)
            Sorrel is also like weed grass, but you can also make a salad and cabbage soup from it.
            You just did not eat good "green cabbage soup" ... additional dressing also plays a role in them.
            I prefer to add a spoonful of sour cream and half an egg (cooked in a steep).
            But of course I don’t always have such a meal, and sometimes for a change (and it’s good for the body).

            What surprised you?
            Your weedy grass grows in my beds!
            Okroshka, prison, and just eat with pleasure !!!
            1. Boratsagdiev
              Boratsagdiev 2 May 2020 14: 17 New
              That's right, good for the body (especially in spring).
              They just cultivate sorrel (you can even grow it at home on the window), but there is no nettle.
        2. Aviator_
          Aviator_ 2 May 2020 16: 50 New
          At the Korean wedding in Karaganda in 1981, they treated me to a dog. Confused with pork - a layer of lard, a layer of meat, a layer of lard. Then he looked (in the book) at these dogs - fat as pigs, they are so fed. With this view they, in my opinion, even walk, not that they can’t run. These food dogs have nothing to do with normal dogs.
        3. AU Ivanov.
          AU Ivanov. 3 May 2020 10: 37 New
          Koreans know how to cook dog food. Real jam!
  15. 7,62h54
    7,62h54 1 May 2020 16: 39 New
    Fell felling with crunch. Hedgehogs suck out through the eye. And here the quinoa ripened. Or maybe all the same in the old fashioned way, we’ll plant some bread?
  16. dgonni
    dgonni 1 May 2020 16: 43 New
    The author is so far from agriculture, and especially modern realities, that he already takes a terrible thing. Quinoa she is from amaranth. In fact, a malicious weed. Sowing a quinoa along the edge of the plot, it will disperse and force you to spend a lot of time weeding the main crops! For it can grow on acidified and saline soils. And even with a small amount of precipitation. But this does not mean that it will not jam other crops. So the complexity of obtaining the same potato will increase by an order of magnitude. There are no herbicides. War! Did the author even see her in kind?
    For LED lamps and greenhouses, a horse was neighing. If you have a heated greenhouse, then there clearly the owner will grow something else but not a quinoa.
    For a horse in agriculture, neighing doubly. Aw, when was the last time you were in the village? Horses in villages on the fingers of one hand can be counted. Well, there is no that agriculture that was before the 60s of the last century. NO!
    2000 kilocalories for a person walking behind a plow offered by the author just beyond the bounds of good and evil. The author at least has an idea what a plow is and how to resemble it? And what is plowing at least a hectare of field? And you will also need to mow it! And the work of the reaper requires Very good nutrition. And for 2000 kilocalories he will not stretch 2 mowing.
    In general, an article from a series in the city I imagine how to escape from hunger.
    In cases of war, if there is no mechanization and agricultural chemistry. No quinoa and Jerusalem artichoke will save. Cities will die out like Peter in blockade. Unless, of course, residents move to the countryside and dig up and plant them with pens. But this is a udvosvrat in completely different ancient times.
    1. Pashhenko Nikolay
      Pashhenko Nikolay 1 May 2020 18: 09 New
      Well, it’s not worth it to find fault with the author. It is clear that he is an urban agronomist. But in the thirties in the Kuban during starvation, my grandfathers survived on a swan. On an ordinary wild one. That same malicious weed.
      1. dgonni
        dgonni 1 May 2020 20: 30 New
        And they didn’t ask where the quinoa grew and why did the alien survive on it?
        And then my grandfather for those years raskazad. Wet lean year. From the collective farm and from people all the grain was raked up to the sowing stock. Here is the result. I had to interrupt on wild sorrel and all sorts of surrogates and dandelions. And nobody sowed the quinoa! It rrsla like a weed along rivers and on the grounds.
        And if they had not won the grain, then no one in their right mind would have eaten it.
        By the way, hunger was in 47! But normalization was already underway, and on collective farms it was issued normalized to the number of mouths. Not to fat so that legs would not stretch to a new crop. But they did. For if there was another 32-33 then there would be no one to feed the country.
        1. Pashhenko Nikolay
          Pashhenko Nikolay 1 May 2020 22: 59 New
          That's right. Only the wet year was the next after starvation. Elderberry streets were taller than the growth, because there was no one to trample them down. Only narrow paths between the houses were. The neighbors were surprised that the grandfather still had a cat.
  17. mmaxx
    mmaxx 1 May 2020 16: 51 New
    No thanks. Eat Yourself
  18. knn54
    knn54 1 May 2020 17: 24 New
    In PEACE time, masks for facial skin (Slavic recipe for youth), infusion for washing, mask for hair roots.
    It is used in folk medicine, infusions and ointments.
    For some reason, the author did not mention contraindications. And about the "overdose".
  19. fa2998
    fa2998 1 May 2020 17: 54 New
    Quote: iouris
    And how could I forget about the swan?

    Yes, I was waiting for a similar article. I only wondered, after Jerusalem artichoke I thought they would advise me to diversify the menu with nettle or oak bark. It turns out the following is quinoa! laughing hi
  20. Tomich3
    Tomich3 1 May 2020 18: 00 New
    Thanks of course, but you and Putin will offer quinoa and Jerusalem artichoke. My grandmother and grandfather swan ate when they were dispossessed. Jerusalem artichoke can by the way be collected in my garden (no bastard is harassed).
    1. Yura
      Yura 1 May 2020 18: 27 New
      Quote: Tomic3
      (no bastard)

      This exotic product was also planted with us and it blossoms beautifully, but we did not bring it out right away, we just decided not to let it grow in one year, only the tops will grow about 15-20 cm., We immediately pulled it out, respectively, the plant was sickly and didn't develop like that during the summer. The following year there were only a few sprouts that were already easily dealt with in the same way.
  21. Boratsagdiev
    Boratsagdiev 1 May 2020 19: 04 New
    Not ripe potatoes can also be poisoned.
    There may also be a variant of hitting "weeds" as well as the defeat of ergot with the corresponding consequences.
    In Russia, they often used Amaranth, a very useful culture. But not all and time-consuming)
  22. MP
    MP 1 May 2020 19: 14 New
    Very interesting and informative. Thank you, I read with pleasure. Definitely, the enemy will not pass. Let's feed :) But all this must be tried in practice, planted in a summer cottage. Here is where else to get garden quinoa seeds? I would like to read about what can be grown in conditions of instability in the basements of apartment buildings. For example, about mushrooms or hydroponics.
  23. Azis
    Azis 1 May 2020 19: 43 New
    Thanks to the author for the articles, special - about urine in moonshining. Once such times have come, it’s worth writing more about dandelions, nettles, reeds, wheat grass, hogweed, birch bark, etc., with the calculation of copyright recipes. Further, the cycle can be continued with carpentry glue, drying oil, leather products ...
    PS What is the best way to cook a person?
    1. wehr
      1 May 2020 20: 06 New
      About hogweed - already was. The birch bark was once discussed in the comments.

      For cooking a person - shooting on the spot. This is my credo: to destroy cannibals on the spot without regret.
      1. Azis
        Azis 1 May 2020 20: 21 New
        hi Dmitry. Well, after the shooting, is it possible? I won’t eat it myself - for sale, there are all kinds of cutlets, like Heinlein’s.
        It’s not serious, if that ...
      2. Azis
        Azis 1 May 2020 20: 24 New
        Hogweed found, thanks!
  24. alone
    alone 1 May 2020 21: 38 New
    belay I suggest that all officials be fed exclusively by Lebed ... Cheap and useful .. Just a little lose weight .. And then who you look at, your face is like a Kamaz wheel
  25. 30143
    30143 1 May 2020 21: 42 New
    I enjoyed reading it. Thanks to the author.
  26. Emphasis
    Emphasis 1 May 2020 21: 52 New
    Already got to pasture ...
    it's like don’t look that we live hard, because there may be time that we’ll go over to the quinoa, then it will be. So rejoice at what is ...
  27. Doctor
    Doctor 1 May 2020 22: 21 New
    The author is well done! Zykina still bequeathed to sow Lebed!

  28. Griban
    Griban 1 May 2020 23: 27 New
    For me, a person suffers from graphomania. They ate the swan because the seed fund was not enough and either the area was not sown all and this weed raged there, or the areas were sown sparsely, which led to the same result. No one sowed it on purpose. It is easy to collect seeds from it, there are a lot of them, rather large, so it was "popular". We added acorns to the flour (tumbleweed). In the spring they washed goose onions, then coupes, then nettles, then sorrel and cow parsnip, and if it came to quinoa, then things were really bad. Let the author not worry if it comes to war, then what, and there will be enough swans in the fields and gardens.
  29. Nikolaevich I
    Nikolaevich I 1 May 2020 23: 59 New
    Quote: Griban
    For me, a person suffers from graphomania. They ate the swan because the seed fund was not enough and either the area was not sown all and this weed raged there, or the areas were sown sparsely, which led to the same result. No one sowed it on purpose. It is easy to collect seeds from it, there are a lot of them, rather large, so it was "popular". We added acorns to the flour (tumbleweed). In the spring they washed goose onions, then coupes, then nettles, then sorrel and cow parsnip, and if it came to quinoa, then things were really bad. Let the author not worry if it comes to war, then what, and there will be enough swans in the fields and gardens.

    I agree with you ... nobody sowed swan on purpose! This "statement" does not stand up to any criticism! Arable land, which the peasants had "forever" not enough, to occupy with weed (!) Swan !!? belay This same pantalik could blurt out like that ?! fool
  30. Nikolaevich I
    Nikolaevich I 2 May 2020 00: 33 New
    Straight "the miracle of the Great Monitu" (!) ... Verkhoturov's article, after reading which no vomiting occurs! We are familiar with quinoa ... at the time to start talking with an advertising slogan: “We know, we love and eat!” ... I know about porridge made from quinoa seeds and about bread with quinoa flour; and a salad of young leaves of quinoa and cabbage soup, which grandmother, and then mother cooked, she was honored to eat in childhood ... But why leave the swan alone? In the forest and in summer cottages, you can find a lot of edible "grass-ant"! Runny, nettles, dandelions, wild chicory, burdock, butterbur, fern, rhubarb - that's just a short list of edible "gulbaria"! (in my dacha honey agarics grew on stumps, and near the birches in the shade of the bushes there were also brown birch trees ...) You could immediately write an article: "An ant grass as a reserve strategic food in wartime ..."! But it is clear that the Author is paid for the "quality" of articles, and not for their "quality" .... request
    1. wehr
      3 May 2020 22: 13 New
      Want to gag?
      I'll think about it.
      1. Nikolaevich I
        Nikolaevich I 4 May 2020 06: 57 New
        Hello, Dmitry! hi Your statement sounds promising and intriguing! Thank you for warning ... I’ll cook a bowl! yes
  31. parusnik
    parusnik 2 May 2020 08: 08 New
    That is the root of our food security! smile
  32. Prisoner
    Prisoner 2 May 2020 11: 35 New
    The deceased father-in-law used to say in the mood: "Oh, trouble, trouble, trouble! Instead of bread quinoa."
  33. pmkemcity
    pmkemcity 2 May 2020 16: 08 New
    but quinoa will yield the same crop with less effort and on worse soils.

    We have good soil that is not cultivated.

    In larger farms, quinoa can be sown, firstly, as a forage crop,

    And you asked the cattle - will she eat it? A person is often called "cattle", but in my opinion, this is not true, in terms of nutrition, a person is a different creature, except that a "pig" can be called. laughing
  34. Archon
    Archon 3 May 2020 09: 46 New
    I tried to make soup from the leaves of a quinoa - it turned out to be dubious in taste.
    nettle leaf soup was much tastier, and a scalded nettle leaf salad was also good.
    1. Nikolaevich I
      Nikolaevich I 4 May 2020 07: 14 New
      Quote: Archon
      I tried to make soup from the leaves of a quinoa - it turned out to be dubious in taste.

      My grandmother at one time made a salad with the addition of quinoa leaves ... cooked cabbage soup. I, as a child, ate this and I do not remember what was disgusting! Salad and cabbage soup were not often prepared, but in early spring, when the greens were still tight ... Perhaps it was necessary to observe certain conditions: pick young leaves ... in the upper part of the stem or, conversely, from the lower ... at a certain period growth ... pour over boiling water ...! By the way, nettles were also used, and torn nettles were doused with boiling water ... nettles were torn off at a certain period of growth ...
  35. igorra
    igorra 3 May 2020 10: 43 New
    This is for us, who do not know hunger, quinoa - exotic. My mother, who survived the war, did not eat green cabbage soup with her all my life, she was ready to eat potatoes three times a day, and disrespect for bread was taken as a personal insult. So be careful with the praises of any ersatz food.
  36. Simon
    Simon 3 May 2020 12: 14 New
    Yes, there are many more herbs that can be eaten or treated by them, forgotten for all historical reasons.
  37. Brigadier
    Brigadier 3 May 2020 14: 11 New
    Recently, articles began to appear on how to survive with the help of nature.
    There were articles about Jerusalem artichoke, now about a swan. Tomorrow about nettle soup?

    Are they preparing us for something?

    1. wehr
      3 May 2020 18: 18 New
      To a protracted nuclear war.
      So what?
  38. Captain Nemo
    Captain Nemo 3 May 2020 15: 24 New
    ABOUT!!! Cosmic-Tereshkovsky dimensionlessness is another article of the "enlightened descriptor". With such recommendations, what to do hohda, the supastat will somehow make my soul feel better. Yes, what would we do without such an article ... I ordered the neighbors' vegetable gardens to sow with lyabed, and explain to the peasants! My deepest bow to YOU, that they told the stoves to heat the stoves with the corpses of the conquerors (they will not let them into the nearest forest now without dyangs) and the Maskovo dumps on the outskirts of the house to attach (now there will be free clothes and eggplants of all kinds, and the Colorado beetles in the hunting grounds will stop themselves from smelling).
    Here Tokma about supastat is not clear a little. Relatives in Voronezh will be very worried, they are afraid of something else. Boyar siblings do not want to live in Voronezh. All in the landon and Paris. Is the supastat unhappiness in Voronezh hidden? Please clarify this stupid question ..
  39. Tanya kuzmina
    Tanya kuzmina 4 May 2020 10: 44 New
    I also want to remind you of nettles and wood lice. In the 90s, when the salary was once every six months and there was no garden, the main thing was to survive the winter and wait for May. And there, when the grass started, we cooked beautiful pasties. Quinoa, nettle and woodlouse (put woodlice two, three times more than the rest, it makes the taste great), mesco cut, there is fried onion, any greenery that is. Brewed the dough, cooked pasties. It was unrealistically delicious. And in winter, to add vitamins, they drank a special compote, without sugar, instead of water: peel of onions and needles. It turned out to be slightly sour, pleasant water. And in the photo, it’s really not quinoa
    1. agond
      agond 5 May 2020 21: 29 New
      Quinoa, the breadth of wild varieties of amaranth, hence the poor quality of quinoa bread, the thing is that amaranth was banned for cultivation in Russia by decree of Peter 1, and before that there was a ban from the Spaniards, the ban was religious in nature (for some peoples, amaranth was considered food of the gods and was used in sacrifices) naturally, professors treasured their position and did not advertise either breadth, quinoa, or amaranth, and before Peter amaranth bread was popularly known, and those who ate it on an ongoing basis had good health, lived to a very respectable age , the ban affected both crops and these elders (in the literal sense) and forgotten about amaranth until Vavilov, who brought cultivated plants from Mexico. Amaranth is now considered a 21st century culture.