A video appeared in the network with guys dressed in uniform of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation shouting "we serve Ichkeria"

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A video is being distributed on the network, which has already managed to cause a massive discussion. On the frames published by the Ascent channel (and he had only 46 subscribers and only a few videos at the time of preparing this material), you can see young people in combined arms form. Opposite are other young people, and on the sleeve of one of them, in addition to the Russian flag, you can see a patch similar to the flag of Chechnya.

One of the young people welcomes those standing in the ranks:



Hello comrades!

The welcoming man is in a tracksuit with his hands in his pockets.

Yes, and the system that he welcomes, to put it mildly, is strange. The form, as they say, is "number eight" - simply put, who is what. In this case, the bulk - without hats, one "soldier" - in a hat.

To the greeting, the “system” replies:

Hello, comrades Chechens!

The following is the question:

Who do you serve?

Answer:

We serve Ichkeria.

Recall that in the 1990s, the leaders of terrorist organizations banned in the Russian Federation called the Chechen Republic Ichkeria.

The following shows the passage of a group of servicemen on the parade ground with off-screen text with the same “Who serve?” - "We serve Ichkeria."
The author of the publication claims that the video was shot in the Kaliningrad region.

The authenticity of the video raises certain doubts; it is provocative in itself. But if the frames and sound are authentic to them, then, apparently, there is a reason for the proceedings on the part of the competent authorities.

Recall that for some time young people from the Chechen Republic were not drafted into the Armed Forces of the country.

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    1. +38
      April 30 2020
      Banal hazing ... But ten healthy guys should give a head on these three ..
      1. +53
        April 30 2020
        I hope these bewilders beat off any hunt for mockery. Here it is necessary to seriously understand who and where it is filmed.
        1. +157
          April 30 2020
          Is it banal? It’s nationalism, lonely. For this article is provided. Only this works with respect to the Slavs, and proud shepherds do what they want.
          1. +44
            April 30 2020
            I agree .. This is not even nationalism, it is separatism .. But how can it be that 10 people can not curb three?
            1. -2
              April 30 2020
              I agree .. It’s not even nationalism, it’s separatism.

              This is the rotten pillar of the thieves anti-people government.
              1. -10
                April 30 2020
                A familiar song, hehe. I remember in the ninety-first about the same taldychili. Party gold, there, and all that.
                Want to repeat it?
                1. +26
                  April 30 2020

                  Indeed, military unit 90151, the city of Gusev, Kaliningrad region.
                  Part Reviews:
                  1. +18
                    April 30 2020
                    The 79th Separate Guards Motorized Rifle Insterburg twice Red Banner, Order of the Suvorov Brigade - remove the title of Suvorov from shame!
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              3. +4
                1 May 2020
                No, this is just crime.
              4. 0
                1 May 2020
                And where does the power ???????? Supreme Commander Must Protect Them ???????? What Homeland will they protect when they themselves need to be protected. We are indignant only because it is a clear humiliation of the Russian people. And so we Russians themselves are perfectly humiliating ourselves: at school, the strong mock weak monstrous methods, at the universities everyone boycotts nerds, it was the Russians who divorced the army into hazing, and in the former republics hazing in such a form as we do not have. And it suits us all !!!!!!! But if the Caucasians begin to live according to our own laws ............... Why are we spitting on the mirror, if the face is crooked? Each of these soldiers thinks that someone should deal with these mountaineers, but of course not him, he has a small episodic role in society, he personally does not have to do anything.
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            2. +85
              April 30 2020
              Quote: lonely
              But how can it be that 10 people cannot curb three?

              Very simple. These three are unpunished. And as soon as we, in due time, react, we were immediately dragged out for interrogations. And the special officers flew in and the political department pulled up. It was so, it remains so. Nothing changed. As my political commander said then - "But they are a national minority." The current 282nd it only concerns us.
              1. +23
                April 30 2020
                Quote: Krasnoyarsk
                The current 282nd it only concerns us.

                Hmm ... scary to read all this ...
                1. +49
                  April 30 2020
                  Taken at Picabu:
                  I served in Chebar 2003-2005, and I’ll say that we just had a PLAGUE regimental psychologist, Major Schur. He would sit in the cinema all the arrivals from the unit’s training, give me papers and ask me to anonymously record with whom you DO NOT WANT to serve. As a result, then he sorted this pile of papers and took into account the comments! I am wildly grateful to him that I didn’t end up in the same unit with the blockheads who came with us. And he simply acted with these monkeys - he DIVIDED their entire flock and scattered them into separate units. Because one monkey is not scary - they are scary when there are a lot of them. I remember well - a Chechen came to our company. The only Chechen in the company, thanks to Schur, he scattered them as best he could, even reaching a conflict with his superiors! In total, the guy was simply asked to carry out his duties as a normal person. He started to piss off, I won’t fall on a rag, faith doesn’t allow it, and so on. Why should they and you not? He - oh, I’m a Muslim and so on - we are to him - but why don’t you observe Ramadan, don’t you do namaz? He was blown away and no longer stood out. And moreover, he turned out to be a surprisingly good guy — they communicated well with him for the rest of his service life.
                  The conclusion is that you can’t let them get crowded. Because then all the ethnic problems arise and they begin to put themselves above others.
                2. +1
                  April 30 2020
                  lobster, it’s undead it was also in sa, depending on the situation, it’s worse I finished shmas in p cusars Azerbaijan company of a fighter’s fighter two cadets from this settlement appeared in our company well, I don’t and the local military commissar wouldn’t have taken an Azerbaijani man for rams to send them to serve in the sa, I still did the service normally, we were part of the driver, it’s basically been working there, and I won’t be surprised that so-called idiots-grandfathers will be shot during the fighting, but interesting becoming grandfathers themselves they’ll do it.
                  1. +7
                    April 30 2020
                    Quote: Ryaruav
                    and I won’t be surprised that during the hostilities so-called idiots-grandfathers will be shot, but what’s interesting is that when they become grandfathers they’ll do it -

                    these were brought up with blankets ... You know, if you show a little slack in front of such people, the result will be what you saw in this video ... if not worse (although it’s much worse) ... And the toilets were cleaned and were engaged (despite the fact that they had a roof) .. Officers need to be planted ...
                    1. 0
                      April 30 2020
                      What year did you serve and how many Caucasians were on the horizon?
                3. Qas
                  +2
                  1 May 2020
                  It was necessary to serve in the army so that it was not "scary to read all this"
                  1. +1
                    1 May 2020
                    Quote: Qas
                    It was necessary to serve in the army so that it was not "scary to read all this"

                    Served, don’t worry ... And we couldn’t have such chaos .. We extinguished in the bud
              2. 0
                April 30 2020
                Another plus bag. You're right
            3. +14
              April 30 2020
              Quote: lonely
              I agree .. This is not even nationalism, it is separatism .. But how can it be that 10 people can not curb three?

              Very simply, they cannot. This is the foundation of the officers' service on ....... s. I am surprised at another, how, with 1 year of service, there can be hazing and fellowship? With the current indulgences and service not far from home? It is real that the "Czechs" cannot break their head behind the fence.
              1. +17
                April 30 2020
                Quote: lis-ik
                1 year of service can be hazing and fraternity?

                Fellowship, quite real ...
                Quote: lis-ik
                It is real that the "Czechs" cannot break their head behind the fence.

                Who will break there ?! Not so long ago, an acquaintance traveled to Grozny on business, said that almost all young people are engaged in various types of martial arts, especially "mixed" ones. Where there are "nerds" from a family where the whole family is from one child of mother and grandmother. And the most popular sport is football in the yard, sometimes. hi
                1. +2
                  1 May 2020
                  Quote: Tank Hard
                  Almost all young people are engaged in various types of martial arts, especially the "mixed" ones. Where there are "nerds" from a family where the whole family is from one child, mother and grandmother.

                  I meant, simply and without fancies, to dispense with a compass, one by one, in the bump, what will turn up by the arm, without even showing faces, even then later on a retirement pension he wonders why and why.
                  1. +4
                    1 May 2020
                    Quote: lis-ik
                    I meant, simply and without fancies, to dispense with a compass, one by one, in the bump, what will turn up by the arm, without even showing faces, even then later on a retirement pension he wonders why and why.

                    I understood and answered why no one is posting there. You have to understand. that, among other things, a lot of relatives will come to take revenge (and they will take revenge there), and the victims in their relatives often have a grandmother and a mother who will cry quietly and perhaps that's all. I want to remind you that in some Caucasian republics, strength and elders are respected, they believe in God and visit the temple, go in for sports (mainly martial arts), they are used to getting together in case of danger and helping each other. From the point of view of such a society, the "Russian" society is filled with weaklings, it is not clear how "oriented", not believers (read not faithful), which means. despised and unworthy of respect.
            4. +9
              April 30 2020
              Quote: lonely
              I agree .. This is not even nationalism, it is separatism .. But how can it be that 10 people can not curb three?

              Have you tried? Have you served with Caucasians?
              1. 0
                April 30 2020
                Quote: BecmepH
                Have you tried? Have you served with Caucasians?

                I already wrote how we punished the "special"
              2. +2
                April 30 2020
                Well, I served with Caucasians and what can you say? But you apparently do not know the whole essence of the issue. Not everything is as simple as you think
                1. +4
                  1 May 2020
                  Quote: sanek45744
                  Well, I served with Caucasians and what can you say? But you apparently do not know the whole essence of the issue. Not everything is as simple as you think

                  I am a military pensioner and have seen a lot of Caucasians. I served urgently with the Chechens, and with the Dagestanis, and with the Armenians, and with the Azerbaijanis ... I can tell a lot of good and bad.
                  You read heroic posts here and ask yourself a question: "So who then are the Caucasians .... Well, over whom are they scared, since all are heroes?" I try to be objective and honest. I saw how they beat and how they were beaten ...
                  And I’m not surprised at this video, although it’s bitterly painful ...
                  1. +4
                    1 May 2020
                    Yes, I completely agree with you. Well I saw a lot. Unfortunately, fostering tolerance leads only to bad. Many guys are not just fighting for their words in a normal way. And besides, they still do not unite (my hut from the edge, as they say, I know in my own skin) there are many warriors, as you say, only these warriors do not know situations. I served in the Northern Fleet, and by the way, the guys from the Caucasus were at least 50% faithful there. On the very first day of arrival at the assembly point in Severodvinsk there was a fight for 300 people from behind a bench)))) it was generally fun
              3. +5
                1 May 2020
                (Have you tried? Have you served with Caucasians?) Yes, I did! never squeaked! (Caucasians) how to "PUT" yourself it all depends on US!
                1. 0
                  1 May 2020
                  How many of them were personnel? And who were they by nationality?
                2. +5
                  1 May 2020
                  Quote: Far East
                  how to "PUT" yourself

                  In the 80s of the last century, a guy from one of the toughest districts of the city went to train with me for sambo and hand-to-hand fighting (and then the city of Frunze was divided into districts and youth groups, like Alma-Ata, however) "Botanica". His name was Herman, I must say he was a remarkable type, he was well trained, he fought well, carried with him a slingshot and pieces of metal chopped from a copper strip, planted adults from this slingshot on their backs at once, clearly hitting the forehead with a piece of copper from this slingshot. And the tongue was suspended! I have always listened with some envy how he could "go to the bazaar" from almost any situation. In general, I believed that such unique people would be on horseback everywhere. The time has come, I went to college, Herman went to the army after graduating from vocational school, he did not think otherwise, he was not afraid of anything. Then I was told that they killed him in the first year of service. last year of the USSR. Kind of like a conflict with senior officers. Rather, the saying is true, how lucky you are.
                  1. 0
                    2 May 2020
                    Yes, sometimes it doesn’t go to bed. I was left alone with my temper only after 3 times left alone, while saying that I was a scumbag)))))
            5. +31
              April 30 2020
              The one in sports uniform is most likely a sergeant. The reality is that more and more posts of the junior command staff are occupied by guys from the North Caucasus region, and when they try to take them up as officers, they come from officers from the North Caucasus regions, who are now not few in the army (for example, I have a commander the battalion, its two deputies and two company commanders out of three in the battalion were some from Dagestan, some from Ossetia). All cover each other. But the command of the unit is not interested, a couple of times a week they look only at the cleanliness of the form and how the company builds a song. Well, in general, as usual, they wanted the best, but it turned out as always. Again the officer, even while in the company, leaves everything to the sergeants, as in the good old ones.
              1. +4
                April 30 2020
                Quote: Agieros
                All cover each other. And the command of the unit is not interesting

                and how next?
                1. +11
                  April 30 2020
                  But no way. This is the reality of the current government. Who, apart from Kadyrka, will undertake to defend the Kremlin from the Russians when it starts?
              2. +4
                April 30 2020
                But the command of the unit is not interested, a couple of times a week they look only at the cleanliness of the form and how the company builds a song.
                Have you reviewed the series "Soldiers"? The unit is engaged in combat training. Exercises, live firing, driving, sports events, field reviews, final checks are held. Everywhere the command is involved. On New Year's Eve, at 23.00, the commander and deputies visit each battalion. The days of the week are distributed between the deputy commander of the unit and the commander, where they go through the whole unit from checking the guard at 3.00 to 23.00, sign in the book for checking the quality of cooking, visit each company, and everywhere they sign in the book for checking rooms for storing weapons.
                1. -2
                  1 May 2020
                  You wrote it with irony?
                  1. +1
                    1 May 2020
                    With knowledge of the matter personally, and in relation to Ichkeria as well.
                    1. +1
                      1 May 2020
                      Well, once with knowledge of the matter, so explain in essence, and not according to the schedule, the daily routine of the command staff.
                      Why did the Czechs organize an alternative command?
                      1. 0
                        1 May 2020
                        Conscripts from the Chechen Republic are not drafted into the RF Ministry of Defense. There could be Chechens called up from Dagestan. But not a fact. A large share of the likelihood that this is another provocation to incite ethnic hatred and discredit the RF Armed Forces, as was done in 1991. IMHO competent authorities will understand.
                        1. 0
                          1 May 2020
                          As history shows, such applicants are jammed. And this is not a provocation, the Czechs and Dagi really hold a lump in parts. He himself served in the community.
                          Dramatic decisions are needed, and indicatively cruel. And to call them only in terms of support, i.e., rear.
                        2. +1
                          2 May 2020
                          To begin with, it is necessary to abolish the "cane" system of offenses in the army, when the commander of a unit at military councils is thrashed for every crime. Then it is necessary to introduce a well-thought-out system for criminals, because disbat is not a zone. It is necessary to decide what to do in the zone with the dags, because there is recruitment going on in ISIS. But the very first thing is to prepare Slavic recruits for the realities of adult life.
              3. +8
                April 30 2020
                guys from the North Caucasus region
                It's funny, of course - "guys" ... In fact - adult men with an already established pattern and stereotype of behavior in Russia outside their native places. In full force in Anadyr, Oymyakon, etc. to clean the snow (all), but not in the real troops. And the commanders to put initially their own antagonists, in their own area.
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          2. -3
            1 May 2020
            We fanned it out of fake ... You can take out such vidos 100 pieces per hour so that you grab each other's throats inside the country. And in the neighboring joys will be ...
        2. +38
          April 30 2020
          And why did the boys die? For this disgrace?
          1. +14
            April 30 2020
            Quote: lexus
            And why did the boys die? For this disgrace?

            The boys died for their homeland, they destroyed the terrorists. But politicians are half-dimensional.
          2. +10
            April 30 2020
            Quote: lexus
            And why did the boys die? For this disgrace?
            You do not confuse the dead boys here. These rams, bleating "I serve Ichkeria", were not brought up by them, and no Putin will do this. This is the result of our relationship to the family and the upbringing of boys and girls.
            1. 0
              April 30 2020
              In short, you are to blame. How are you going to bathe?
              1. 0
                April 30 2020
                Quote: Pereira
                In short, you are to blame. How are you going to bathe?
                And it’s none of your business. Dig in yourself, if not very nasty.
                1. +1
                  April 30 2020
                  No, not disgusting. My son knows the price of "service to Ichkeria". You can't buy propaganda. When the time comes to separate the lambs from the goats, he will make the right decision. But I'm not sure about you.
                  1. +3
                    1 May 2020
                    Quote: Pereira
                    My son knows the price of "service to Ichkeria".
                    It is clear, those bleating are not yours, they were found on the street ... Any questions for me? Do you disagree with the fact that this video should be shown publicly to the fathers of these "defenders" so that they feel guilty, and not pity them, blaming Putin, who "dismissed the Caucasians"? This is the fault of the entire older generation, to which I belong, and who and how will personally atone for it, closer to death, I hope, it will be clearer, and maybe even after it. Caucasians despise cowardly guys. It is right. A coward should not be given a weapon. If at least one of them showed himself worthy, he would not be in this system this flock.
            2. +2
              1 May 2020
              Exactly!!!!!!!! Most Russians are sissy. Father either drinks or plows at work. Mostly women rule kindergartens, schools, and uni. Now in schools they are a madhouse - my son somehow took part in a fight in the first grade. So there they made such a noise. They wanted to include him in a list of inadequate ones, and he would remain on this list for life. As a result, we, too, seemed to be going to write a statement to another boy. As a result, this business was hushed up mutually. Now the children in the class are no longer fighting for several years. Only go to the teacher complaining about each other. If now 3 Caucasians are building a military unit, then then one Caucasian will be the Minister of Defense before lowering the ranks. We ourselves are moving towards this. Ancestors in a coffin are turned over.
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        3. +30
          April 30 2020
          It turns out that they defeated us in 2000, and we pay them tribute
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          2. +2
            April 30 2020
            Do you understand now? Estonian?
        4. -42
          April 30 2020
          If three mock at 10. Then these 10 should be punished for stupidity. And guys, well done, I hope they become officers.
          1. +5
            1 May 2020
            Quote: Trickster
            If three mock at 10. Then these 10 should be punished for stupidity.
            Not for stupidity, but for cowardice, cowardice, rather.
        5. +21
          April 30 2020
          Quote: 210ox
          I hope these bewilders beat off any hunt for mockery. Here it is necessary to seriously understand who and where it is filmed.

          I also hope so, because this is a direct insult to the memory of the dead guys and to all of us in Russia! For this you need to answer and as tough as possible .. How tired of these insults of Russia negative
          After all, they constantly provoke us .. Now it will scatter across the network and imagine what comments will be there .. Paddle!
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        6. +18
          April 30 2020
          Quote: 210ox
          I hope these bewilders beat off any hunt for mockery.

          I think that the question WHERE is that bl ..... in disappears. Question about



          The question of the sovereignty of the republic, which is nourished by the "hand of power".

          And another question for the "obedient slaves". And to turn into a turnip - religion does not allow?
          I didn’t refuel any shkoni, I didn’t erase the reinforced concrete - it’s just Senior Sergeant of the Airborne Forces. I achieved a lot with my fist - I’m not hiding it. But the question is no longer for those who spread rot - they are bastards, definitely. The question is to those who are being bullied - are you people or creatures chewing army porridge?

          I had to serve with people.

          It’s not easy, sometimes they covered their backs with knives but served where they had to. And he gave everything to the Motherland that he could.
          And the Motherland awarded it. Not so, of course, like his father - he has an unbearable tunic. Own, simple, fighting, which is not a shame on August 2 on a jacket (not on a vest !!!!!) to attach.
          1. +7
            April 30 2020
            Hello, hello!
            I agree with you 100%. I cannot imagine myself as the commander of such a pidrozdila, and even more so for Alexei. Those who were not allowed to clean by "religion" lived in the toilet. Not for long, they quickly found a compromise with religion.
            1. +5
              April 30 2020
              Alex, hi ! drinks with coronovirus. We’re Soviet - why the hell do you scare us - a shitty snack and we’ll answer!
              Quote: lexus
              I cannot imagine myself as the commander of such a threat, and even less so for Alexei.

              It was decided at a time.
              It's easier for father - he's a lieutenant colonel. He ordered - and ёё ..... but.
              It's more difficult for me - the senior sergeant needs to have contact with people - "tomorrow" at BV. So that they don't breathe poison in the back. But also the distance to feel.
              And so that the "store" would be thrown when necessary ...

              Thin thing ....
              1. +2
                April 30 2020
                Thin thing ....

                Even some. winked
                It's easier for father - he's a lieutenant colonel.

                To avoid breathing poison in the back.

                When everything is strict, but fair, the poison dries up. By the way, I still communicate with my former subordinates, malicious violators of military discipline, in a brotherly manner. When they left for demobilization, they went to see them. I asked: "Damn, not a day without luli, but is there such respect?" To which I often heard the invariable answer: "I understand that I am alive thanks to you, and you do not take anything personally, the reasons for my behavior are youth, stupidity, show-off."
            2. +11
              April 30 2020
              Quote: lexus
              100% agree with you. I can’t imagine myself as a commander of such a threat

              And "Dagi-sila" specifically - so I only saw them in OBATO and saw five or six pieces. I don’t remember anything like that in the OSShBr ... there were Ukrainians, Armenians, Georgians, one Kazakh, even one Buryat (hello to the Buryat cavalry submarine companies fighting in the Donbass laughing) So who is the force? DAGI or ODSHBR?

              For me - the answer is so clear as the order of Valery Gennadyevich - to take by storm and not regret it.

              These are parasites in our army. Like bugs. And you need to display them with dust and fist. Crush and strangle.
              Only it is not clear to me - where were such deaf-obedient "siskins" recruited? I would have seen this in my platoon - I would have raged right up to fractures of the limbs ....

              But the whole Internet is crammed with such photographs of "Dag-Sila". Where, for example, does the military prosecutor's office look? Where, for example, are the commanding fathers looking? Why, for example, "siskins" tolerate this and do not give a return? (instead of "for example" there was another word, but the VO censorship did not allow it).

              There are many questions, one answer - in the jaw before knockout. I have not tried it on a living body for a long time, but I used to know how.
              1. +7
                1 May 2020
                Where is the military prosecutor's office looking? Where are the commanding fathers looking? Why, "siskins" tolerate this and will not give a return?

                The first and second look in the smartphone SMS about the accrual of salary. And the "chizhikov", the only "synul" in the average Russian family, were torn off from their boobs by the mothers just before the army and shaking them by the carcass, because "they weren't raised for that." Caucasians with many children have a diametrically opposite approach: "Mahmud, the family is big - take away everything that you lack from the giaurs."
              2. +5
                1 May 2020
                Quote: Zoldat_A
                Where, for example, are the commanding fathers looking? Why, for example, "siskins" tolerate this and do not give a return?

                Fathers commanders are either "impotent", or they themselves push more aggressive servicemen so that they keep the main herd in fear. And not only Caucasians, but also Tuvans, Buryats, or brothers Slavs can be so aggressive. when they see that they have already been betrayed by their fathers, the commanders from the very moment when the poor siskins crossed the threshold of the unit. Well, those denounced by the authorities from the fathers of the commanders, of course, go crazy with their impunity. Here is the result. What kind of fight against non-regulation can we talk about when the officers themselves, and in the slang the soldiers are jackals, set an example. Here is an elementary example from my life. We had exercises, we lived in tents at the Tsugol training ground in the Chita region. Our company in a large tent together with company bosses. So our fathers-commanders had to fill their beds with "zapadlo", they forced the "spirits" to do it. Or the company clerk who vegetated in the office was like a servant.
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            1. 0
              April 30 2020
              You, apparently, are fatally injured from birth, once you ask such questions.
        7. +1
          1 May 2020
          This is a shame for the parents of both of these soldiers. Defective officers. I would not approve of personnel.
      2. +39
        April 30 2020
        I will write one axiom .. maybe you know that too .. "no matter how much a wolf you feed, he will still look towards the forest"
        1. +21
          April 30 2020
          Quote: Atlant-1164
          I will write one axiom .. maybe you know that too .. "no matter how much a wolf you feed, he will still look towards the forest"

          It depends on which huntsman is looking after the wolf, sometimes the shafts can be registered so that the wolf will behave like a puppy to lick boots .. Any animal respects strength, but as soon as you start playing liberally with it, it will grab the side at the first opportunity. In Chechnya, we have demonstrated this perfectly, and now we have started to play "democracy" again, so the results of the cubs have grown up .. hi
          1. +23
            April 30 2020
            Quote: Gegemon
            We have perfectly demonstrated this in Chechnya, and now we have started to play "democracy" again, so the results of the cubs have grown.

            Well, what kind of democracy in Chechnya, Mikhan, what are you talking about? For 15 years now, the total dictatorship of Kadyrov and his gang has been in Chechnya. This allowed him personally Putin. I remember that in the zero FSB it came into conflict with the Kadyrovites, but Putin always covered up his named son, Ramzan. As a result, Chechnya exists on its own, in isolation from the legislative and legal field of the Russian Federation.
            1. -17
              April 30 2020
              Quote: kjhg
              For 15 years now, the total dictatorship of Kadyrov and his gang has been in Chechnya. This allowed him personally Putin. I remember that in the zero FSB it came into conflict with the Kadyrovites, but Putin always covered up his named son, Ramzan. As a result, Chechnya exists on its own, in isolation from the legislative and legal field of the Russian Federation.

              But we still need this, military operations cost much more, and even the restoration of Chechnya ..
              Your EBN with Berezovsky, what they’ve been doing there .. We’ll still raise the archives, but so far the Kovalevs and Ks are strong in Russia hi
              Better to do so (in the Crimea and Syria they helped us well)

              Chechnya respects the power. And not your whining neoliberal .. And Russia will be strong in everything! hi
              1. +7
                April 30 2020
                Quote: Gegemon
                But we still need it, military operations cost much more, and even the restoration of Chechnya.

                Mikhan, then answer only one question, in your opinion, Kadyrov is our man?
                1. -3
                  April 30 2020
                  Quote: kjhg
                  Quote: Gegemon
                  But we still need it, military operations cost much more, and even the restoration of Chechnya.

                  Mikhan, then answer only one question, in your opinion, Kadyrov is our man?

                  NO ! But for now, we need it .. So cheaper hi
                  His father was nevertheless smarter and quickly realized what could happen to Chechnya if he did not obey ..
              2. +6
                April 30 2020
                Quote: Gegemon
                But we still need this, military operations cost much more, and even the restoration of Chechnya ..

                One must live according to the law, not "according to concepts." Can we have every region "according to the concepts" will live?
                1. +1
                  April 30 2020
                  Quote: aleksejkabanets
                  Quote: Gegemon
                  But we still need this, military operations cost much more, and even the restoration of Chechnya ..

                  One must live according to the law, not "according to concepts." Can we have every region "according to the concepts" will live?

                  Attempts were in Tatarstan, Bashkiria, Yakutia, etc. but thank God this process was stopped by the evil of the United States and other Berezovsky, Khodorkovsky, Chubais, etc.
                  The situation is very complicated now .. hi
                  1. +3
                    April 30 2020
                    Quote: Gegemon
                    the evil of the United States and other Berezovsky, Khodorkovsky, Chubais, etc.

                    What is the difference between the above citizens and the Roterberg, Sechin, Potanin, who are now "calling the tune"?
                    Quote: Gegemon
                    The situation is very complicated now ..

                    Didn't they, together with the guarantor, create this very "difficult situation"?
          2. +1
            April 30 2020
            People, with all due respect, you did not modify.
            1. +1
              April 30 2020
              Quote: Pereira
              People, with all due respect, you did not modify.

              Well, maybe .. How I can!
              Pereira, a familiar nickname, somewhere intersecting .. Well oh well, they still won’t let anyone remember .. hi
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      4. +12
        April 30 2020
        Quote: lonely
        Banal hazing ... But ten healthy guys should give a head on these three ..

        Careless officers build this service. It’s necessary to drive the army out of it, officers, I mean, and plant the guilty soldiers and sergeants. I imagine the combat readiness of such a part.
        1. +12
          April 30 2020
          Quote: aleksejkabanets
          Quote: lonely
          Banal hazing ... But ten healthy guys should give a head on these three ..

          Careless officers build this service. It’s necessary to drive the army out of it, officers, I mean, and plant the guilty soldiers and sergeants. I imagine the combat readiness of such a part.

          I agree completely. In a unit with strong, decent officers, this cannot be. Here, everything is left to the will of brainless, stupid, Russian-hating "soldiers" of a certain nationality .. There was a time when they were not taken into the armed forces ... national question.
        2. -1
          April 30 2020
          Quote: aleksejkabanets
          It’s necessary to drive the army out of it, officers, I mean, and plant the guilty soldiers and sergeants. I imagine the combat readiness of such a part.

          There is no arguing .. Maybe it’s time to create a kind of internal security structure in the Army .. We arrived clogged the kidneys and other reproductive organs without bruises, etc. , warned the same scum officers .. And they disappeared! soldier The same elite commandos they will have to fight along with them and they will cover the rear during tasks .. It's time to stop this mess and hard ..
          A good idea, I think? hi
          PS And for the info yet .. During the Second World War, one general directly spoke out that if the majority of nationalities are in the division, then attacking the enemy is useless .. They will run away! soldier
      5. +12
        April 30 2020
        All initiators to the chervonets to the camps ... for the Arctic Circle.
        1. -2
          April 30 2020
          Quote: vkl.47
          All initiators to the chervonets to the camps ... for the Arctic Circle.

          In the red zone with the corresponding note in the personal file and video ... soldier
          It’s a pity that their videos will not be missed back on YouTube, and they won’t.
          But it just won’t leave, I’m sure .. hi
      6. +1
        April 30 2020
        Quote: lonely
        . But ten healthy guys should be given

        og ... these ten can not be wrung out 5 times ... glory to the formation of the Russian Federation. physical education in writing on the exam. in the section to go, only for highlanders.
      7. -2
        April 30 2020
        Quote: lonely
        Banal hazing ...

        Banal "Russian world". Nothing terrible happened. Just think, someone in the army once again said "Akhmat is power", "Chechnya is cool" or "I serve Ichkeria" ... The main thing is that we are "the victorious people", "Crimea is ours" and "we can repeat ". Why are these provocations? Why write that I serve Ichkeria? This is pure everyday life, and the officers will immediately understand the situation. Russia is a multi-confessional and multi-ethnic country where all peoples love each other to the point of pink snot. And even if 10 Russian soldiers are afraid of three Chechens, then with the Americans, the Russian soldier will show himself brave!
        1. -1
          1 May 2020
          We have already shown ourselves with the Americans in Syria (an incident with a stuck car, shooting of our PMCs from helicopters, etc.) and with the Jews, and even with the Turks, but I generally keep quiet about the euro of the country. I think there is already a saying in the world: only the lazy one does not have Russian
      8. +8
        April 30 2020
        hazing

        Hazing ???
        This is not an army, this is a maximum security prison led by foul-assed officers!
        And before you put me cons, ask yourself:
        For at least 18 years you put your soul into your sons, I'm not talking about everything else ...
        Do you educate your children for such an army?
        Do you really want your children to "serve" in such units, where frostbitten officers and stupid people sergeants will "make" men of them?
        And most interestingly, Russia has no other army!
        Well, if only the TV channel "Star" is excluded.
        Here are a few videos about similar situations in the US Army. Who cares. This guy on the channel has many different videos:
        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZnEYWFZVtWQ
        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nThftzT4Pwg
        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XG9Q-FPgSUg
      9. +8
        April 30 2020
        I will also add:
        That’s the abomination our money goes with you - taxpayer money.
        That is, our children are "re-educated" by mentally disabled officers and degenerate sergeants, and we pay for all this!
      10. +3
        April 30 2020
        You can only give someone then protect the family as a matter of fact the one who gave it? (((And the police will figure it out later, maybe Then
      11. +1
        April 30 2020
        You look like you didn’t serve in the army.
      12. +5
        1 May 2020
        It is difficult to call this banal hazing. It is a very nationalistic bias and it is even more surprising that the officers are completely absent from the barracks, and indeed, as we see on the parade ground. Where is the person on duty, where is the person in charge. Tales tell how everything is great with us and the fact that the soldiers are not left without an eye for a second. And suddenly ...
      13. +6
        1 May 2020
        hazing? If the video is real, then this is separatism .. and everyone needs to isolate for 15-20 years, that of those of others. There is no hazing here. Again, if the movie is real, not a decree. The Internet was condemned by fighters of airsoft players, and these are necessary.
        1. +2
          1 May 2020
          Again, if the movie is real, not a decree.

          The video itself is really staged, the scriptwriter is a face of "Caucasian nationality" and he was filmed in order to demonstrate his superiority and brag to his fellow countrymen in his homeland and other parts of the RF Armed Forces.
      14. +5
        1 May 2020
        Banal hazing ..


        This is not hazing. This is what was so feared in the 90s .. and this is called "fellowship". A group of "fellow countrymen" from Sev.Kav. begins to scoff at those who are weaker morally and physically over the Slavs.
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    3. +32
      April 30 2020
      Exclusively as a Supplement to Information, source Lenta.ru:
      In a military unit in the Kaliningrad region, natives of Chechnya are forcing their colleagues to chant “We serve Ichkeria” and call them “Comrades Chechens”. This is reported in its Telegram channel publication "Ascent".
      The published footage shows how, at the construction site, servicemen greet soldiers from Chechnya and say they serve the unrecognized Chechen Republic of Ichkeria (CRI, CRI authorities in Russia are listed as terrorist organizations, participation in them is criminally punishable - approx. ) There is no exact information on the shooting dates, however, according to the publication, several people from this unit confirmed that the video shows what was happening in the coast guard unit of military unit 90151 in Gusev.
      According to the interlocutors of the publication, in this place there were always many soldiers from the Caucasus, and some were even nicknamed “sunny Dagestan”. At the same time, it is noted that the natives of Chechnya are displaying aggression - they carry weapons with them or take them away from the duty officers.
      According to unconfirmed reports, after a video appeared on the network with the construction footage in the unit, a check passed, but its results were not publicly disclosed.
      Lenta.ru sent a request to the Russian Ministry of Defense with a request to comment on this information.
      1. -19
        April 30 2020
        One problem. Chechens are not drafted into the army. since the age of 16 they have not been called up even once. before that they tried to resolve it in '14, but even two years have not passed since the topic was closed back. what kind of Chechens are there is a question for journalists.
        1. +28
          April 30 2020
          Quote: carstorm 11
          One problem. Chechens are not drafted into the army. since the age of 16 they have not been called up even once. what kind of Chechens are there is a question for journalists already.

          Let's clarify the situation. Chechens, as it turned out, we live (are registered) not only in Chechnya. And they can be called from any region where they are registered. In case you have forgotten, the "nationality" column in the passport was canceled long ago.
          Moreover, there is already a call from the Czech Republic.
          1. -16
            April 30 2020
            I'm afraid you do not understand. they do not call on the inhabitants of the republic but on the nationality. The small group of peoples includes: Ingush, Yakuts, Lezgins, Avars, Mari, Kumyks, Chuvash, Chechens, Dargins and Kabardins. The general list includes the indigenous people of all remote areas, in particular Taimyr and Evenkia. Most domestic military registration and enlistment offices do not call for Dagestanis, either, with the exception of individual cases when a citizen independently applies for the purpose of service and further employment.
            1. +25
              April 30 2020
              Quote: carstorm 11
              I'm afraid you do not understand. they do not call on the inhabitants of the republic but on the nationality.

              I'm afraid you do not understand. I wrote to you how things really are.
              1. 0
                April 30 2020
                Well, I did it myself at one time) checked personal files, studied conscripts) all those of small nationalities had personal files cleaned. if the list has changed then maybe.
            2. +6
              April 30 2020
              I know a few, Maris, Yakuts, Kumyks, Dargins and a number of others from this list are called upon regardless of their place of residence. And these are not small nations. Small in numbers are less than 50 thousand. Chechens who permanently live outside Chechnya are being called on.
          2. +6
            April 30 2020
            Quote: Volodin
            Let's clarify the situation. Chechens, as it turned out, we live (are registered) not only in Chechnya. And they can be called from any region where they are registered. In case you have forgotten, the "nationality" column in the passport was canceled long ago.

            And why do they fill out questionnaires and check them in the military enlistment offices? Or is it impossible to understand by surname and place of birth where the conscript is and who his parents are, does he have a criminal record, and if there are convicts among his relatives?
            Moreover, there is already a call from the Czech Republic.

            It’s a pity if they started doing it again.
            1. +7
              April 30 2020
              it really will become a problem then. there, without tough decisions, a fact cannot be driven into their framework. I had to face with the Dagestanis. still those scumbags. which is surprising because those whom in life were met by quite normal people and in the troops it’s just tin what can happen.
              1. +5
                April 30 2020
                When one at a time, they may be adequate.
            2. +12
              April 30 2020
              Quote: ccsr
              And why do they fill out questionnaires and check them in the military enlistment offices? Or by surnames and place of birth it is impossible to understand where

              I hope you won't be surprised - often impossible. I personally have a friend whose name ends in "..at", surname ends in "... yang" (well, as if the name is far from Slavic roots), and in the Soviet passport he had "Russian" written. And now an employee of some Tula military registration and enlistment office will be there to figure out who mom and dad are, if you need to implement the control figures of the draft.
              1. +4
                April 30 2020
                He, therefore, had a Russian mother and, upon receiving a passport, he chose her nationality.
      2. +15
        April 30 2020
        Quote: Leshy1975
        The video captures what is happening in the coast guard unit of military unit 90151 in Gusev.

        All officers of the unit under the tribunal.
      3. +2
        April 30 2020
        Quote: Leshy1975
        or they’ll take him from the attendants.

        What weapons, except for the bayonet-knife, on duty? Or do they take it from the officer on duty for the officer?
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        2. -10
          April 30 2020
          I will note - "in the arena" all the same troupe, in an abbreviated composition, however,: stasik, doctor, "Malyuta".

          Where did "Svarog" go, monsters ?? laughing
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    5. +40
      April 30 2020
      Find all involved and very severely punish, disband part, army commanders with a filthy broom
      1. -15
        April 30 2020
        Yes, do not rush to disperse a part of you and drive officers from the troops. What are all quick to kill.
      2. +21
        April 30 2020
        Do not drive the commanders, but plant them. Otherwise, it will not reach others. For the rest involved, the disciplinary battalion, to the fullest, after it, the military men are beaten out as excellent students in combat and political training, and are not engaged in what is provided for by the disciplinary charter and the Code of Criminal Procedure.
      3. +10
        April 30 2020
        Are you ready to drive about 40 percent of officers from all types of aircraft? This is one incident that crawled out. I already wrote an article on this topic earlier, more than half of the junior command personnel from the North Caucasus region and about 30 percent of the officers from there. The sergeants rely on the officers, who in turn agree with the non-Caucasian officers to turn a blind eye to the situation. And officers from the North Caucasus region, in my experience of the service, occupy a bunch of posts up to and including commanders of battalions, they are not only transferred to headquarters (they find different reasons). A mess is going on in the army, I thought it was only in my unit, 33 BrON, but after the service I had the opportunity to talk with the guys from the 138th Motorized Rifle Brigade and 4 Guards. etc., that Kantemirovskaya, everywhere everything is as you see in the video. Global cancer tumor of the junior command, officer and partially officer army. By banal excision of the tumor body, the situation cannot be resolved.
      4. +1
        April 30 2020
        Quote: Vladimir Lenin
        Find all involved and very severely punish, disband part, army commanders with a filthy broom

        So them !!!!!!! Well, that’s it! Now this will not happen again! After such a harsh rebuff!
        How is it in the machine-gun and artillery division that protects the Raseya from Japan on the Kuril Islands Caucasians fiercely, read anyone interested. What is the question, the guys in Chechnya were put in for nothing? It was possible to pay the tribute at once and start "respecting the traditions of small nations."
    6. +1
      April 30 2020
      If not a fake, then these "Chechens" will get a good hat.
      1. +18
        April 30 2020
        Quote: Lord of the Sith
        then these "Chechens" will get a good hat.

        If these marching would give them a hat, this video might not have existed at all .... But officers generally need to be planted for this mess
        1. +3
          April 30 2020
          Exactly. I hope the military prosecutor’s office will figure it out quickly. I saw this nonsense a couple of days ago.
        2. -10
          April 30 2020
          Soon we will see a video where the comrades Chechens apologize ... Kadyrov will ask ... for the film crew Akhmat in the subway the boy cleaned the streets of Grozny.
          1. -4
            April 30 2020
            Kadyrov will ask in full, there were precedents))
            1. -14
              April 30 2020
              These specific Chechens foolishly worked to undermine the sovereignty and territorial integrity of the Russian Federation. In the limit, they worked for the US State Department. Therefore, they will ask in full, and recognize the video as extremist and ban ...
              1. 0
                April 30 2020
                They can hush it up for the general public, not shake their rubbish from the hut, but I’m more than sure that they will get sour, especially in the Kaliningrad region, which is surrounded, to put it mildly, by unfriendly countries.

                We will wait for the official statement of the Ministry of Defense.
                1. -1
                  April 30 2020
                  Recognizing this is counterproductive. We are talking about the territorial integrity of the country. They should fly headlong exponentially.
                  1. +1
                    April 30 2020
                    One thing must, another thing will be. In any case, they will respond. And the guilty will envy the dead))
                    1. -2
                      April 30 2020
                      "That's exactly" (c). C / f "White sun of the desert".
            2. +11
              April 30 2020
              Nothing like that, they usually just cover their
            3. +7
              April 30 2020
              Quote: Lord of the Sith
              Kadyrov will ask in full, there were precedents))

              One hope among Russians for justice is Kadyrov. Himself not disgusted?
              1. +3
                1 May 2020
                The Russians are asking from Kadyrov, Kadyrov is frightening his clowns - what is not clear?
                1. +1
                  1 May 2020
                  Quote: Lord of the Sith
                  Russians ask from Kadyrov

                  Is it not from Kadyrov who called to shoot policemen from other regions of the Russian Federation if they would glance at his estate in the process of operational measures? Oh well...
              2. -2
                1 May 2020
                I don’t put a minus to you, but you are wrong.
                That's exactly what you have to do. A historically proven management method: a handful of Englishmen from the East India Company controlled India and robbed it by just this method. Learning from adults.
                1. +3
                  1 May 2020
                  Quote: Private-K
                  That's exactly what you have to do.

                  To complain to Kadyrov? Suffering bullying in your own land? Look, for example, the Kazakhs, when they have graters with Chechens (and they appear regularly), they rebuff without any Kadyrov.
                  Quote: Private-K
                  a handful of Englishmen from the East India Company ruled India and robbed it by precisely this method.

                  And that the Russian Federation controls the Czech Republic? What a flawed comparison with the East India Company? I doubt that the Indians made the British soldiers shout: "I serve Maratha!"
                  And in general, - Britain robbed India, and Russia Chechnya, as it were, the other way around. You turned it upside down ...
                  Quote: Private-K
                  Learning from adults.

                  We have enough of our teachers. But for 300 years, lessons have not been learned that way ...
      2. +14
        April 30 2020
        Quote: Lord of the Sith
        If not a fake, then these "Chechens" will get a good hat.

        Hardly. Will be hushed up as always.
        1. -3
          April 30 2020
          it is not jammed but decided on the spot. in this case, the test will go the other way because there is no call from the Chechen Republic and who these people are a big question. why not in uniform but in a tracksuit. after our service, the Dagestanis remained in the city after the service and tried to engage in racketeering in civilian units. after setting the brains they blew away like the wind. The process itself, of course, was not very legal, of which of course no one reported to the media) the problem was solved and everyone was happy.
          1. +10
            April 30 2020
            Quote: carstorm 11
            for there is no call from the Chechen Republic

            For a long time already there is an appeal from Chechnya, go, check.
            1. +12
              April 30 2020
              He lives in parallel reality, you can not say anything to him, still do not care.
              1. -2
                April 30 2020
                to be rude to strangers is a sign of mind or stupidity? what do you think?
            2. +1
              April 30 2020
              perhaps behind the times. be sure to ask the other day.
          2. +1
            April 30 2020
            Quote: carstorm 11
            why not in uniform but in a tracksuit.

            Well, the Russian military is not in shape ...

            Also an interesting case ...
      3. +3
        April 30 2020
        They will receive a hat for being burned, and in general smartphones in the army are forbidden for that.
        1. +5
          April 30 2020
          Quote: READY FOR BREAKTHROUGH
          and generally smartphones in the army are forbidden for that.

          What is "that" for? So that it was not known what kind of chaos is going on there?
          1. -1
            April 30 2020
            For civilians to sleep more peacefully, an army is needed for that.
            1. +3
              April 30 2020
              Quote: READY FOR BREAKTHROUGH
              that’s why the army is needed.

              Such an army? How's the video?
              1. 0
                April 30 2020
                It’s not all like that, most of the Armed Forces have already been transferred to contract service, and there it’s somewhat better with non-instability. But various videos of similar content cause irreparable harm to the authority of both the army and the country.
      4. 0
        1 May 2020
        Quote: Lord of the Sith
        If not a fake, then these "Chechens" will get a good hat.

        I doubt however. There are defenders.
    7. +13
      April 30 2020
      the story repeats cyclically - the comrades of officers and close to none, as part of one of my acquaintance who served in a black regiment in the Far East, even under the USSR
      1. +26
        April 30 2020
        New Chechen youth. Rather, "overgrowth", which must be disposed of in time.
        Just call the FSB (since Ichkeria is recognized as a terrorist organization) and believe me, it suddenly becomes silk. A serious article is to serve terrorists.
        And with the officers you need to figure it out. So you can miss the "cell".
        1. +18
          April 30 2020
          Yes, it always seems like this - they will gather in a small flock and tyrannize those around them and then Kondopoga, the blame for the events in which the unworthy journalist Y. Latynina attributed to Russian criminals
    8. +3
      April 30 2020
      We need to give this "Chechen grandfather" to Kadyrov. Since he is drowning for Ichkeria, let him answer for Akhmat Kadyrov.
      1. +21
        April 30 2020
        Quote: Valery Valery
        We need to give this "Chechen grandfather" to Kadyrov. Since he is drowning for Ichkeria, let him answer for Akhmat Kadyrov.

        Actually, Akhmat Kadyrov fought for Ichkeria .. Even jihad declared against Russia. He sided with Russia because of the Wahhabis who sentenced him to death .. If it weren’t for the Wahhabis .... it could be different
        1. +2
          April 30 2020
          Quote: lonely
          Actually, Akhmat Kadyrov fought for Ichkeria

          Povylazili. Lonely - the first. All who fought for Ichkeria - Hero of Russia! To walk, so to walk.
          1. +7
            April 30 2020
            Quote: Crowe
            Povylazili. Lonely - the first. All - Hero of Russia! Walk, so walk.

            Well, prove the opposite and I will apologize to everyone for unreliable comment hi
            1. +1
              April 30 2020
              Is memory short? .. Need to call a spade a spade and not replace the concept.
              Even V.O. Klyuchevsky once argued that "history teaches even those who do not learn from it: it teaches them for ignorance and neglect."
              Lying in the interpretation of the past leads to failures in the present and prepares a catastrophe in the future. ”
        2. +2
          April 30 2020
          hi
          I tell you that so in heaven there will be more joy for one sinner repenting than for ninety-nine righteous people who do not need repentance.
          Lk.15: 7
          This is not even disgusting to me, Thomas, an unbeliever. wink
        3. +1
          April 30 2020
          Quote: lonely
          Actually, Akhmat Kadyrov fought for Ichkeria .. Even jihad declared against Russia. He sided with Russia because of the Wahhabis who sentenced him to death .. If it weren’t for the Wahhabis .... it could be different

          Well, there would have been another .... ".. yrov" and all business
      2. +5
        April 30 2020
        We need to give this "Chechen grandfather" to Kadyrov.
        To give him the Hero of Russia medal?
    9. 0
      April 30 2020
      Yes, really, they could break into the lovers of the lost "homeland" instead of walking ...
      1. +12
        April 30 2020
        Quote: AlexFly
        Yes, really, they could break into the lovers of the lost "homeland" instead of walking ...

        Here it is necessary to break into the officers of the unit, about 5 years each of the general regime.
      2. +4
        April 30 2020
        Quote: AlexFly
        could break

        We calmed the "special" with a blanket late at night with the whole platoon ... Believe me, it worked very well ... All the special signs disappeared the next day ... And when the service ended, these "special" already looked at life with different eyes
    10. +12
      April 30 2020
      Chechnya is a problem of Russia since the time of Pushkin and Lermontov ... and even earlier ... they are not going to dissolve in Russia ... although they can be found in any regions of the country ...
      1. -6
        April 30 2020
        The Anglo-Saxons problem of the Russian Federation since the time of Ivan the Terrible. Chechens and all of us need to learn history. To increase education.
      2. +5
        April 30 2020
        in any regions of the country ...
        even on YouTube they send greetings to Ukraine in the fight against the Russian aggressor, being in Tomsk-Irkutsk
    11. +2
      April 30 2020
      Or stupidity or non-regulation. Both are grounds for the "interest" of the military prosecutor's office.
    12. -16
      April 30 2020
      They are not the same go-ots, these warriors, that would be so substituted. It is clear, however, that one can get a better job for this than for bullying. Although ... you never know idiots. But nevertheless I am inclined to believe that these are the products of some foreign "film studio" "Friends of Russia". The dogs became more active.
      1. +10
        April 30 2020
        Quote: Captive
        They are not the same idiots, these warriors, that would be so substituted. It is clear that for such a thing one can get a little cooler than for bullying.

        Ayrat, did you even serve?
        1. -4
          April 30 2020
          Served. And you?
          1. +7
            April 30 2020
            Quote: Captive
            Served. And you?

            SVPCH-4 HPV-2OPOMVD of the Kyrgyz Republic. Since the USSR, there have been such cases, there are, probably will be, and they are always trying to hush them up. Those who served usually know this.
            1. -12
              April 30 2020
              For 18 years of service in the USSR Armed Forces, I have not seen a single such case.
              1. +4
                April 30 2020
                Quote: Captive
                For 18 years of service in the USSR Armed Forces I have not met a single similar case

                Strange, even in our unit it was all, and there a special selection was carried out. request
                1. -1
                  April 30 2020
                  You touch me - "special selection". If the unit is loaded to the very eyeballs with studies and combat training, the command staff does not arrive in a semi-swooning state, but fulfills its duties in full, there is order and without "special selection." hi
                  1. +5
                    April 30 2020
                    Quote: Captive
                    You touch me - "special selection"

                    This meant a special commission, psychological tests of a special orientation, a sports component, the absence of drives to the police and convicted relatives, the fact of service of one of the close relatives in the Ministry of Internal Affairs was desirable. Those. we were considered very psychologically stable and positive, however, there was only one out-of-place presence. Be moved further. wink
                    1. -4
                      April 30 2020
                      Thank you for your permission. winked He had no close relation to the system of the Ministry of Internal Affairs, with the exception of the case when the district police officer wanted to be taken prisoner, but the military commissar turned out to be quicker. But medical commissions, professional selections and mandate passed. Well, okay, I'll go and be moved. laughing
              2. +3
                April 30 2020
                You urgent needed to try
                The officers are not visible in the frame
                hi
                1. -2
                  April 30 2020
                  laughing One and a half years in the asset. And in the school, in a platoon of as many as seven horsemen from the Chechen-Ingush ASSR, he spun. Not Socrates, but the Spartans were still the same. The three remaining after the first course became quite good comrades in the future. As the saying goes, "being determines consciousness." Although it sounded a little different with us, beatings define consciousness. hi
                  1. 0
                    April 30 2020
                    You do not compare school with urgency
      2. +7
        April 30 2020
        Yes, this is their usual behavior
    13. +7
      April 30 2020
      Among these were not Shamsutdinov. It's a pity...
      1. +4
        April 30 2020
        Quote: Arzt
        Among these were not Shamsutdinov.

        With normal officers, the Shamsutdinovs do not meet, because there is no need. And so, not funny. Especially Shamsutdinov and his family, and their broken lives.
        1. +4
          April 30 2020
          With normal officers, the Shamsutdinovs do not meet, because there is no need. And so, not funny. Especially Shamsutdinov and his family, and their broken lives.

          You cannot assign an officer to every soldier.
          But Shamsutdinov, yes, not funny. But then he remained a Man.
          1. +3
            April 30 2020
            Quote: Arzt
            You can’t put an officer to every soldier

            I would like to ask the same question as Airat. In any part, officers know what is happening; there are always individuals ready to report information for various reasons. If this happens in this unit, it is necessary to deal with the officers. At one time, they quickly resolved the issue with me.
            1. +1
              April 30 2020
              I would like to ask the same question as Airat.

              If the question is about military service, then the answer is yes. Urgent in the USSR Armed Forces, and as an officer in the "new era".
              But you do not equal hazing in Soviet times and what is happening now and specifically in this part.
              If all this is true (and judging by the accent - true), then this is no longer hazing. The young did not shout "Glory to the grandfathers!"
              1. -2
                April 30 2020
                Quote: Arzt
                But you do not equal hazing in Soviet times and what is happening now and specifically in this part.
                If all this is true (and judging by the accent - true), then this is no longer hazing. The young did not shout "Glory to the grandfathers!"

                And this is not hazing (service life if 1 year). This "fellowship", at least this was the case in our unit (by the way, there was no hazing) and under the USSR (there was both, for sure, since the 70s of the last century).
          2. +2
            1 May 2020
            Quote: Arzt
            Shamsutdinov yes, not funny. But then he remained a Man.

            Become a human killer ??? belay fool
            1. -2
              1 May 2020
              Become a human killer ???

              And that for you any killer is no longer a man?
              1. +2
                1 May 2020
                Quote: Arzt
                And that for you any killer is no longer a man?

                Only not Shamsutdinov!
                1. 0
                  1 May 2020
                  Only not Shamsutdinov!

                  Well, if they promised to "lower him" and you can’t escape, what should I do? Here or or.
    14. +4
      April 30 2020
      Such are they "Russians" ...
    15. -5
      April 30 2020
      Such videos are removed only for the purpose of provocation.
    16. +8
      April 30 2020
      And what far to go, you look at the head of Chechnya and at once everything will become clear, an apple from an apple tree.
      1. +9
        April 30 2020
        Quote: yuliatreb
        And what far to go, you look at the head of Chechnya and at once everything will become clear, an apple from an apple tree.


        but what bad can be said? - A hero and heroes next to him! Look at the iconostasis of all! Sometimes it seems that the Russian Federation consists of Russia and Chechnya request
    17. +25
      April 30 2020
      Why these "delicate" curtsies the author - what are the doubts? The credibility of the video? So it is clear that there is no editing. Does anyone have doubts that a dozen children of shepherds called up from the North Caucasus can create problems in any military unit? The problem that did not exist in the USSR exists - the leadership of the Ministry of Defense, and moreover - the Russian Federation does not want and will not solve this problem for quite obvious reasons - this is the force with which they, if necessary, want to pacify the "state-forming nation." sad
    18. +16
      April 30 2020
      I won’t be surprised if the video is genuine. Chechnya does not live according to the laws of Russia.
    19. +11
      April 30 2020
      I had to sort of deal with the Ossetians in a similar matter. The guys are all strong and competent, although not my subordinates, but ran into a couple of times and got, immediately respected. They spoke openly with me. The meaning was that these men were like that, I gave him a slap in the face and he burst into tears, the others fled ... A couple of times in Soviet times, the proud sons of the Caucasus tried to do my unit and did this, punished hard and strengthened the service, duty officers pinned when the company I asked not to report anything bad about mine. And here I personally see the other side, the masculinity in our Slavic milieu is destroyed!
    20. +1
      April 30 2020
      Quote: veritas
      I won’t be surprised if the video is genuine. Chechnya does not live according to the laws of Russia.

      and not only Chechnya, in fact, the Caucasus is a special region where the main law is - I am a man! There, from childhood, the boy learns to stand away from his mother!
    21. -6
      April 30 2020
      Quote: Krasnoyarsk
      Quote: Leshy1975
      The video captures what is happening in the coast guard unit of military unit 90151 in Gusev.

      All officers of the unit under the tribunal.

      Wow how! So let's immediately declare this part a zone, for this purpose we will introduce the units of the Ministry of Justice and the Federal Guard, rename the military unit to the institution and make everyone mark the departure of the term! Are you by any chance not from the mother committee?
    22. -2
      April 30 2020
      The joke. Each joke has a certain share of jokes.
    23. -10
      April 30 2020
      laughing I do not even want to discuss cheap stuff, like the source who arranged the srach.
    24. +12
      April 30 2020
      What confuses the video? It is possible that the current president of Chechnya in the near future is the Russian president. Everything goes to this. And the soldiers participating in the first and second Chechen wars will be persecuted, just as the veterans of the Red Army in the Baltic region are being persecuted.
    25. +6
      April 30 2020
      Quote: Navat
      It turns out that they defeated us in 2000, and we pay them tribute

      were there doubts?
    26. -5
      April 30 2020
      And what did you open up, sang and sang, each case is individual, as they say.
      But you don’t need to throw a stone in the window (to stir up conflict at the level of conflict early)
    27. -3
      April 30 2020
      Maybe just footage from an amateur movie?
    28. +2
      April 30 2020
      just some Russians are more equal than others)))
    29. +13
      April 30 2020
      still did not understand which of them is a NATO threat? those who "serve" Ichkeria, or those who are in a tracksuit? (sarcasm is sad, if that). I can imagine if one of the Slavic guys would make the Caucasians shout "Glory to Russia!" (not yet an extremist statement?). It would be howling, all over the world ... the FSB, the Center "E", and the prosecutor's office with all sorts of human rights activists would fly in. At least clause 2 of 282 of the Criminal Code of the Russian Federation would be soldered (and maybe also on which organization of "evil fascists" they would pull), guys ...
    30. -9
      April 30 2020
      What a fake. For clothing look purely partisans and not the military unit.
      1. 0
        1 May 2020
        forgot the famous video of the 90s from the division to them. Dzerzhinsky where older comrades raised young animals much more severe methods and in sports suits? It is more comfortable in it than in army pants and boots.
        A friend began to serve in the USSR, he already served in Ukraine, a border guard, went on business trips, serviced equipment such as floodlights in outposts, still cannot forget how in one such business trip with a kettle in his hands, flip flops and a jacket, he was stopped by an officer who was dead of this form of clothing , but a friend reacted with a quote from the Charter - only they say in wartime you can command me
    31. +1
      April 30 2020
      from the series to us ... at all. some drive through the streets, shitting on the rules. others dance, blocking all movement. and these paraded their Caucasian prowess.
    32. +1
      April 30 2020
      The question is not only in interethnic relations .... The question is deeper .. Replacing real military training in these units of this military unit is probably not for her alone .. Simulating activity and inflating soap bubbles in our real military training ... The person above in the correspondence referred to problems of the military unit .. it looks like a lot of left-wing people among the officers came to the army ... For property blogging ... And the real training and re-equipment is only in the report .... Something that reminds
      1. ZVS
        0
        April 30 2020
        Now in the army come those who, for the most part, do according to the doom. A good provision in the army with monetary allowance and apartments is available for living without fear for their future and the future of the family, as happens in civilian life.
    33. ZVS
      +6
      April 30 2020
      While Shoigu washes streets in Italy, his army began to serve Ichkeria. Sleep off!
      Well, this stone maker doesn’t understand a damn thing in the army service, but where is the General Staff? Where is the prosecutor? Where in the end is military counterintelligence? What is she doing? For similar things, the commander of honor resigned, and these black..puff eagles in the disbat for two years.
      1. 0
        April 30 2020
        Quote: SU
        Where in the end is military counterintelligence? What is she doing?

        And where does counterintelligence ?!
        1. ZVS
          +2
          April 30 2020
          And despite the fact that this is not hazing, but interethnic relations. , if they had got to me at the time these mountain ko + evils, my Kazakh cancer would have put them in two years.
          1. +1
            April 30 2020
            Quote: SU
            And despite the fact that this is not hazing, but interethnic relations. , if they had got to me in the unit these mountain ko + evils, my Kazakh cancer would have put them two years

            Under normal leadership, in a part that would not have happened (even under the USSR it was hazing and fraternity). If you also direct military counterintelligence to this, then in general a paragraph. feel
            1. ZVS
              +1
              1 May 2020
              What else should she do? Ass crease in the office idle?
              1. 0
                1 May 2020
                Quote: SU
                What else should she do? Ass crease in the office idle?

                Military counterintelligence seems to have its own tasks. I thought you know. request
                1. ZVS
                  +1
                  2 May 2020
                  That interethnic relations have become irrelevant for military counterintelligence in the army? In the USSR, they were relevant. It's time for the Russians to stop chewing snot and put in place in the army of such Caucasian scum
                  1. 0
                    2 May 2020
                    Quote: SU
                    It's time for the Russians to stop chewing snot

                    It's time, but the train is still there ... request
        2. +7
          April 30 2020
          Well, one might say, under the side of the counterintelligence, the foundation of terrorist ideas is being laid (and in one of the republics, it seems, "romantic" ideas about "beautiful" Ichkeria, which would have lived (if not for Russia), no worse than the Emirates, with his "nakhar" tied to the US dollar (from the 90s, if anything)), one "spiritually educated" of their fellow countryman (with the support of an asset from the video) would be enough, in part, in the name of Allah (jihad, ghazavat etc.) to commit the irreparable. In general, I think that bullying in the army should be equated with acts of deliberate undermining of the combat effectiveness of military units and the army as a whole, and sanctions under the article during, for example, the DB should be for hazing, not "either, or", but only the military.
          1. +2
            April 30 2020
            Quote: Alexander56478
            (and in one of the republics, it seems that "romantic" ideas about

            And not only in "one". IMHO feel
          2. ZVS
            +1
            1 May 2020
            Back in Soviet times, the Baltic states and the Caucasus sought to secession. And in Chechnya, this craving will never end. They can be held either by force or by looting Moscow and other big cities of the country, as Putin does. Stalin and Beria were much smarter than our current leaders of the country, they themselves were from the Caucasus and knew the internal centrifugal forces of these republics.
      2. -1
        April 30 2020
        Quote: SU
        While Shoigu washes streets in Italy, his army began to serve Ichkeria. Sleep off!
        Well, this stone maker doesn’t understand a damn thing in the army service, but where is the General Staff? Where is the prosecutor? Where in the end is military counterintelligence? What is she doing? For similar things, the commander of honor resigned, and these black..puff eagles in the disbat for two years.

        There is no need to whine and hide behind the emblem of the USSR (avatar), I’m looking at you a lot here. The USSR began to hide behind themselves, masking their neoliberal essence .. angry
        Deal with and tough with such and Kadyrov will be discharged including .. Forgot who he is such in life ..?
        1. 0
          1 May 2020
          Who will Kadyrov write out?
      3. -1
        April 30 2020
        where you saw the army - hoses in the form!
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    35. -3
      April 30 2020
      That is why I want my son to serve urgent in Belarus
      1. 0
        April 30 2020
        There are no safe armies, if a person cannot put himself in the midst of a team, then it is better not to serve where.
        1. +10
          April 30 2020
          Tell fairy tales I have served a lot and in different places. Besides, let's just say not from a "civil" family (that's why I own the situation since childhood) What kind of security do you mean I don't know. But for example, I don't consider a parachute jump as a danger, as well as running in tanks. what is discussed in this article is precisely the maximum possible danger of all Perhaps even more than being under a massive mortar fire (because there you "experience death" many times but not so long and without humiliation. And then the guys are turned into animals (slaves) And will this injury go away? And when? Having been under mortars and then in life you are not afraid of anything at all And now they are cowards And they are not born brave, they become thanks to training and discipline And if they break you and make you a coward, then becoming brave is twice as difficult And it means that ? So those three are engaged in weakening the country's defenses. What is this article? -And the article is a firing squad Treason is called
          1. 0
            April 30 2020
            Well, these places are not so distant with which the words ^ break ^
            etc. How then are you willing to cook a person?
            My personal opinion is that it’s not just the forces of this world that are breaking there,
            and survive so to speak ^ not completely slide down ^ it's even harder ...
            1. +2
              1 May 2020
              How to cook? -According to the military regulations For my part, I can add -In an atmosphere of friendship and mutual assistance)) From which naturally follows many private moments that any officer knows and understands. But as I understand you, you bring everything to the point that it would become obvious - "How bad everything is (or good) in the Russian Army "? However, I have already expressed my opinion on this article and I think that this is enough
              1. 0
                1 May 2020
                I'm not talking about the army anymore, but about places not so distant, the wind of this topic from there.
                The army is simpler in the sense that there is an order to carry out and that’s it.
                This video material ^ folly ^.
                1. 0
                  1 May 2020
                  This is your opinion and you have the right to designate it As for the zone and the order on it? -They are different in different zones and different countries If you are "touched" by this topic, you can go to the forum of some resource like "Police and Security Today" ( I just came up with the name)
                  1. 0
                    1 May 2020
                    The topic does not catch me, but if you go deeper into this issue
                    from walking out of reality, so to speak.
                    Breaks, breaks. And if you don’t break it (lo), then alas, the risk is that it will break if you have to face it (God forbid!).
                    1. +1
                      1 May 2020
                      - "There are no safe armies, if a person cannot put himself among the collective, then it is better not to serve anywhere at all."
                      - "Breaks, breaks. And if it does not break (lo), then alas the risk that it will break if you have to collide (God forbid!)."
                      Where is the logic?
                      1. 0
                        1 May 2020
                        Theological universities are peculiar, it is logic that is few.
      2. -1
        1 May 2020
        That is why I want my son to serve urgent in Belarus
        last year there was an article on the VO - soldiers were hung in a Belarusian military unit. You him to Israel is better
        1. 0
          1 May 2020
          And I have no relatives there - I have current in Russia Belarus Kazakhstan (distant) Ukraine and Pts distant in Poland (i.e. in the territories of the former RI) Poland and Ukraine automatically fall out of all the above countries Optimum Russia and Belarus In Belarus at least ethnic hazing no (in comparison with Russia) Yes, I’ve already monitored, I’ve talked with people (without a protocol, so to speak) There are problems there, but Belarus is the best option (And yes, on the issue of the Motherland, what politicians say and do to me is not important in the USSR and I consider his I consider my homeland as my children, therefore, I consider serving in Russia not critical) Moreover, the Union will still return within its borders (or so) even if it is not called so And all those who shout Russia, Belarus, Ukraine, etc., different countries - these are separatists and traitors with all the consequences
    36. 0
      April 30 2020
      Quote: carstorm 11
      Dagestanis I had to face.

      Then you should know that such a nationality as the Dagestan does not exist.
    37. +3
      1 May 2020
      But is it normal that one of the Czechs fastened the Chechen flag on top of the Russian ?? officers do not notice violations in the form of clothes?))
    38. +1
      1 May 2020
      Only touch them, they run right before the political officer, and the people need to extend their service life because of three shepherds, or even call in on the general regime
    39. +1
      1 May 2020
      This is just a shame !!!! Killing and non-bullying were never eradicated in the Russian army.
    40. +2
      1 May 2020
      Quote: lonely
      I agree .. This is not even nationalism, it is separatism .. But how can it be that 10 people can not curb three?

      I hide the usual fear and attitude of my hut. This once again shows us the disunity of the Slavs.
    41. +2
      1 May 2020
      Commanders in the civilian world! Wolves in the cage. angry
    42. -1
      1 May 2020
      We found a couple of goners, intimidated them and put on a movie .... Respecting guys, they would not have done it. These are miserable grandfathers, apparently they themselves flew at one time as cf. brooms.
    43. +1
      1 May 2020
      You know, I’m probably late with my comment and the topic of discussion has come to naught.
      But I want to suggest here is another argument why the Russian boys do not always give an answer to their peers from the Caucasus.
      It seems to me that our children grow up later.
      I myself joined the army at 19 and now remembering myself, I think that I was still a boy.
      Now, everything is completely different. It has become much tougher.
      I didn’t give myself an insult in the army, but I think now, I would also drop a lot in the face ...
    44. +5
      1 May 2020
      Why take this to the army? Let the sheep graze and boil in their own juice. Everyone knows how they behave in society, if anyone thinks that something will change ... I think the naive ones are gone.
      1. +1
        1 May 2020
        Quote: tech3030
        Everyone knows how they behave in society, if anyone thinks that something will change ... I think the naive ones are gone.

        You know, I know, most of the country's population knows that there are "naive" ones left ... feel
    45. +1
      1 May 2020
      where is ichkeria where is kaliningrad. it’s like doctors of Dagestanis in Astrakhan and not only.
    46. +1
      1 May 2020
      We used to fight one on one. All this riffraff crowd on one. Probably to hell with this knighthood.
      1. +1
        1 May 2020
        Here you do not need only these tales. There are 3 on 10. There are three of us Russian boys for one, they can’t be afraid.
    47. -8
      2 May 2020
      Military citizens, explain, what's wrong with that? Well, they shouted "I serve Ichkeria" so what? These are all words, an empty phrase. The guys joked, they don't humiliate anyone here, they don't beat, they don't put on a bottle.
      1. +3
        2 May 2020
        Do you know such a saying? There are gaps in the teeth for such jokes.
    48. 0
      2 May 2020
      Banal hazing? And the pictures, where the light-headed soldiers have the inscription on their backs - "Dagi - strength" - is it also commonplace? Dial "dagi force".
    49. 0
      2 May 2020
      Limpless vegetables ... Thunderstorm NATO!
    50. -3
      2 May 2020
      Tired of these stuffing.
    51. 0
      2 May 2020
      An article about how several junior officers in uniform disgraced the banner, their unit, their commander and their unit...

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