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Elon Musk opposed the “fascists" and demanded that freedom be restored to people

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The complex of sanitary measures introduced by the American authorities because of the coronavirus pandemic is a violation of the rights of citizens.

Such an opinion was expressed by entrepreneur Ilon Musk during a teleconference yesterday with Tesla investors.

This was reported by the press service of the company. According to the Washington Post, in today's telephone conversation about the company's growing profits in the first quarter of this year, Elon Musk, commenting on the quarantine measures taken against the spread of COVID-19, called them "fascist" and burst into obscene language.

Mask criticized the authorities of California because of the introduction of a state of forced self-isolation. The founder of Tesla is outraged by the fact that Americans were forcibly locked up in their homes, depriving them of their freedom of movement, thereby violating their constitutional rights. According to Mask, such a violation of freedoms will leave these people after a pandemic without a livelihood. He considers these measures unacceptable:

Saying that they should not leave the house, that they would be arrested if they did, were fascist.

At the same time, the entrepreneur demanded that the authorities “return their people (obscene abuse) freedom”.

At the same time, many in the United States criticized Mask for trying so-called hype on the protest moods of some part of American society.
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  1. Blackmokona
    Blackmokona April 30 2020 11: 48 New
    +7
    I decided to see what kind of profanity was.
    Laughed.
    His voice sounded more and more indignant, until the leader exclaimed: "What the hell?"

    https://3dnews.ru/1009823
    1. mad
      mad April 30 2020 11: 59 New
      +1
      Ilonka and his PR team had to light up, and the reason and his positivity / negativity is the tenth thing.
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      2. novel66
        novel66 April 30 2020 12: 18 New
        +6
        I know who he was responsible for PR
      3. Thunderbolt
        Thunderbolt April 30 2020 13: 11 New
        -16
        Quote: mad
        Ilonka and his PR team had to light up, and

        Ilonka and his team, satellites, for a minute, launch into the sky. And Mr. Rogozin at this time scribbles tweets on the enemy's Internet and from a Chinese smartphone. "Progress" has risen, I know, you look out, and there is an empty clearing, everyone who is not Chinese, so Musk tidied up, a swindler. People-firms wake up, we have such that Wow-oh-oh! ,, Download, always and not overstating like a Chinese dummy, but in fact it is not a dummy. Throwing is the essence of Buddhism- -the stripe is black or white, pofik. I sit on the side of the road. In a day, a whole mechanized corps is formed from the lagging or knocked-down cars. Just a bastard, not only does he continue to sit, so he jumps at the industrial scale in a gulliver style ... The pace of aviks and destroyers sets tone, but they modernized the divisions at the same pace, bristling with convenient new weapons on the Amur River Amur - the Russian river., our guys and Kalash always shouted. I watched the video as Chinese sappers in 40 minutes set up a tank path for tanks through this natural obstacle And everyone was smiling, I would even notice silt that they were gigging.
        1. Golovan Jack
          Golovan Jack April 30 2020 13: 32 New
          +5
          Quote: Thunderbolt
          I watched the video as Chinese engineers in 40 minutes brought the tank path for tanks through this natural obstacle

          I would love to see how they do the same task under fire. Forty minutes, og.

          Quote: Thunderbolt
          everyone also smiled, I would even notice that they were giggling

          And I would also love to see this. Only in real conditions, not "in the pavilion" yes
          1. Thunderbolt
            Thunderbolt April 30 2020 13: 38 New
            -6
            I would love to see how they do the same task under fire. Forty minutes, og.
            You wouldn’t put a comma in 575 ---- yourself such an age as
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        2. businessv
          businessv April 30 2020 20: 19 New
          +3
          Quote: Thunderbolt
          Ilonka his team of satellites, for a minute, is launched into the sky.
          It happens that not for a minute, but for a long time! I did not understand half of what they wrote - there are a lot of emotions or vodka. Although, vodka does not happen much! smile
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      5. avdkrd
        avdkrd April 30 2020 16: 32 New
        -5
        Ilonka and his PR team had to light up, and the reason and his positivity / negativity is the tenth thing.

        Ilonka? To light up? Seriously? You, apparently, at least yourself, the manufacturer of the Russian high-tech. Do you have your own PR team that prompted you to hype?
      6. Covid19 Ukhan
        Covid19 Ukhan April 30 2020 21: 42 New
        -1
        As far as PR is concerned, he is far from Rogozin! Rogozin gossiping more than launching rockets
      7. Vladimir_2U
        Vladimir_2U 1 May 2020 12: 15 New
        0
        I propose to introduce a new political term - "coronofascism"! )))
  2. Aviator_
    Aviator_ April 30 2020 11: 49 New
    +3
    Losses, sickly. He is afraid that his bubble, existing on subsidies, will collapse.
    1. Blackmokona
      Blackmokona April 30 2020 11: 55 New
      +4
      In general, he reported net profit to investors at the event.
      1. Lopatov
        Lopatov April 30 2020 11: 57 New
        +5
        Quote: BlackMokona
        In general, he reported net profit to investors at the event.

        For the pre-coronavirus period?
        1. Blackmokona
          Blackmokona April 30 2020 11: 58 New
          +5
          For the first quarter of 2020.
          That is, January, February, March. For example, during this period, for example, his factory in Shanghai was completely closed for 2 weeks due to quarantine. Well and other fun.
          1. Lopatov
            Lopatov April 30 2020 12: 02 New
            +9
            Quote: BlackMokona
            For the first quarter of 2020.

            That is, yes
            And apparently, he understands that the next quarter will be a failure and therefore hysterical
            1. Blackmokona
              Blackmokona April 30 2020 12: 10 New
              +3
              It depends on how long the quarantine drags on, the Shanghai factory will certainly pull the company, but it’s not enough
            2. Alex_59
              Alex_59 April 30 2020 12: 12 New
              11
              Quote: Spade
              And apparently, he understands that the next quarter will be a failure and therefore hysterical

              Correctly hysterical. What should he do when everyone is driven into conditions of inevitable failure? And everyone who creates and produces something will fail.
              1. Lopatov
                Lopatov April 30 2020 12: 15 New
                -2
                Quote: Alex_59
                And everyone who creates and produces something will fail.

                Those who create and produce the really necessary will not fail.
                1. Blackmokona
                  Blackmokona April 30 2020 12: 17 New
                  +4
                  I wonder why it will not be if the factories are closed?
                2. bk316
                  bk316 April 30 2020 12: 18 New
                  +8
                  Those who create and produce the really necessary will not fail.

                  It goes without saying. But it is possible that he will not fail. I just could not resist the hype - it's Mask laughing
                3. Alex_59
                  Alex_59 April 30 2020 12: 37 New
                  +6
                  Quote: Spade
                  Those who create and produce the really necessary will not fail.

                  And who decides what is necessary and what is not? For example, state employees will not have a failure in salaries - for tax officials, everyone there, Peskovs, Grefs, Millers. The bankers won't. What do they need to produce? (I do not even take the word "create", it is clear that they do not create anything, but they can at least produce something).
                  Or, for example, is IPshnik producing something necessary to repair cell phones, or repair shoes, or hairdressers?
                  1. AU Ivanov.
                    AU Ivanov. April 30 2020 14: 12 New
                    +6
                    If you like walking with a broken phone in torn shoes and with patches on your head, then yes: neither repairmen nor hairdressers are needed.
                    1. Alex_59
                      Alex_59 April 30 2020 14: 48 New
                      -1
                      Quote: AS Ivanov.
                      If you like walking with a broken phone in torn shoes and with patches on your head, then yes: neither repairmen nor hairdressers are needed.

                      And - the irony. There is such a word.
                    2. Vinnibuh
                      Vinnibuh April 30 2020 14: 53 New
                      +4
                      I’m an electrician in a sports complex (the only one), a state employee, and judging by the logic of Alex59, I also don’t produce anything. And yes, I have a salary of 4900, the rest are premiums, and if they are cut, then yes, I won’t lose anything (.
                  2. Lopatov
                    Lopatov April 30 2020 14: 26 New
                    +2
                    Quote: Alex_59
                    And who decides what is necessary and what is not?

                    Man decides.
                    Do you eat sausage? Despite self-isolation and coronavirus ...
                    But you never bought an electric car ....
                    1. Alex_59
                      Alex_59 April 30 2020 14: 54 New
                      +2
                      Quote: Spade
                      Do you eat sausage? Despite self-isolation and coronavirus ...
                      But you never bought an electric car ....

                      Have you written this message on the sausage or on your phone or computer? It’s just that the computer doesn’t get sausage in your value system - you don’t need it. However, after eating sausage, he is drawn to write a comment on TopWar. )))
                      By the way, I'm wildly sorry, but you're a military man. You don’t like sausage, why are you needed? )))
                      If anything, do not take the last sentence literally and painfully. I am just trying to demonstrate to them that a number of professions are not obvious at first glance. Elon Musk is doing something for the future of humanity, perhaps his technology will not fly, but he is trying. Now they don't seem to be needed, but the Internet, mobile phone and computer also seemed not very necessary 25 years ago.
                      Quote: Spade
                      Man decides.

                      The market decides. And now they killed him. For now...
                4. Nikalab
                  Nikalab April 30 2020 21: 31 New
                  +2
                  Those who create and produce the really necessary will not fail.
                  This is a deep misconception, the economy works on the principle of "spending some is the income of others." Therefore, serious problems in "not important" industries hit even those who are in no way connected with them.
            3. Thunderbolt
              Thunderbolt April 30 2020 13: 45 New
              -6
              Quote: Spade
              And apparently, he understands that the next quarter will be a failure and

              You catch np, simplicity is good for me, you are good, you’ve got a war penalty. Yesterday I finally took my mother, my mother, okay .... I took aim .... I’m sitting on the court
    2. Charik
      Charik April 30 2020 12: 13 New
      +4
      ha norms such subsidies are of the order of $ 4,9 billion support from the state
      1. Blackmokona
        Blackmokona April 30 2020 12: 16 New
        +4
        Among these 4,9 billion dollars, Musk himself received 10 million dollars for the construction of the cosmodrome. Everything else is tax incentives for buyers of solar panels, electric vehicles, orders for the delivery of goods at a price much less than that of competitors, etc.
        1. Charik
          Charik April 30 2020 12: 19 New
          +4
          Built a spaceport for 100 lyamov? Just want to compare laughing
          1. Blackmokona
            Blackmokona April 30 2020 12: 20 New
            +9
            This is a government subsidy for the construction of the cosmodrome, the cost of the cosmodrome is $ 100 million. 90 just Musk pays out of pocket. Now they are building and testing Starship, the new Mask rocket, on it.
          2. Crowe
            Crowe April 30 2020 12: 33 New
            +6
            Quote: Charik
            Built a spaceport for 100 lyamov? Just want to compare

            Do not compare. Otherwise, you will immediately be recorded as agents of the State Department and the traitor of the Motherland.
            Rogozin - well done! Musk - fuuuu.
            1. Blackmokona
              Blackmokona April 30 2020 12: 41 New
              -4
              No need to compare.
              Here is Vostochny, the Soyuz rocket displays less than 10 tons on the DOE, a giant pit, a megaton of steel in a stool, a mobile mobile tower.



              And here is the rocket launch pad for 20+ tons at the IEO, as if the guys had gathered for a picnic.


              That’s the whole reason cheap incredible. Just giving up unnecessary show-offs and expenses
              1. Crowe
                Crowe April 30 2020 12: 50 New
                +9
                It’s all beautiful. True. I even put a plus sign to you from tenderness. Only you forgot that
                According to the press secretary of Russian President Dmitry Peskov, every tenth ruble was stolen during the construction of the Vostochny spaceport.
                He said 91 billion rubles were allocated for the construction of the cosmodrome, 11 billion rubles were stolen. Of this amount, the state was able to return only 3,5 billion rubles. 128 criminal cases were opened on this fact, later they were combined into 32 cases.
                According to Peskov, 19 out of 5 objects at the Eastern Cosmodrome were built.
              2. slipped
                slipped April 30 2020 18: 20 New
                +1
                Quote: BlackMokona
                No need to compare.


                Definitely not worth it laughing Where the Musk rocket is, there is no 40 degree frost and permafrost. The Soyuz launch site was built under the Soyuz launch vehicle, it cannot be different by definition, and so everything is as compact as possible.
                1. Blackmokona
                  Blackmokona April 30 2020 20: 13 New
                  -2
                  But there are no tropical storms, storms and hurricanes, and where Falcon-9 is located
                  1. slipped
                    slipped April 30 2020 21: 21 New
                    +1
                    Quote: BlackMokona
                    But there are no tropical storms, storms and hurricanes, and where Falcon-9 is located


                    The abbreviation Soyuz-2STA (B) stands for Union - 2 Special Tropical Version A or B. wink And yes, from the GKTs to the Kuru Soyuz-2STB, without the "Fregat", it can take the cargo Dragon to the ISS lightly, if required laughing And much cheaper than even the used F9 does.
                    1. Blackmokona
                      Blackmokona April 30 2020 21: 27 New
                      -3
                      So we did not compare the trapical, but with the eastern cosmodrome.
                      The Union of STB barely barely fits in the displayed mass for the freight Dragon, and costs 80 million bucks.
                      For comparison, used Falcon-9 for 50 million sell
                      1. slipped
                        slipped April 30 2020 21: 31 New
                        0
                        Quote: BlackMokona
                        The Union of STB barely barely fits in the displayed mass for the freight Dragon,


                        Barely barely fits laughing

                        Quote: BlackMokona
                        and costs 80 million bucks.


                        The selling price from the factory at Soyuz-2.1a is 1 rubles. You can calculate how much it is in dollars at the exchange rate. And this is the cost of the manned version, which is a priori more expensive.

                        Quote: BlackMokona
                        For comparison, used Falcon-9 for 50 million sell


                        The cost of launching services is average in the market - the same $ 50 million, but this is with the "Fregat" of course. Without the "Fregat" - $ 30 million.
                      2. Blackmokona
                        Blackmokona April 30 2020 21: 36 New
                        -1
                        Soyuz-2.1a does not fit on PN.
                        Do not confuse, Soyuz-2.1a and Soyuz-STB are slightly different missiles.
                        Secondly, the price of a rocket is far from the entire launch price, it is very far away.
                        Again, you are not looking at the launch price of Soyuz-STB, do not confuse missiles
                      3. slipped
                        slipped April 30 2020 21: 40 New
                        +1
                        Quote: BlackMokona
                        Soyuz-2.1a does not fit in with PN. Do not confuse, Soyuz-2.1a and Soyuz-STB are slightly different missiles.


                        The manned version is almost the same as the STB.

                        Quote: BlackMokona
                        Secondly, the price of a rocket is far from the entire launch price, it is very far away.


                        Read carefully, I wrote how much the launch services cost. And yes, the cost of services comes from specific contracts.
                      4. Blackmokona
                        Blackmokona April 30 2020 21: 44 New
                        -1
                        STB costs 80 million bucks
                      5. slipped
                        slipped April 30 2020 21: 46 New
                        -1
                        Quote: BlackMokona
                        STB costs 80 million bucks


                        Well, if it is possible to sell for such a price and the customer agrees, then why not? The main thing is the stock to reduce prices, and huge.

                        Above, I gave the factory selling price. How much does the F9 cost from the factory? laughing
                      6. slipped
                        slipped April 30 2020 22: 07 New
                        0
                        Yeah - $ 80 million is with the "Fregat-M" on the MTR 800 km away, but the Dragon does not need the "Fregat". laughing He flies to LEO. Those. if the Europeans hurry up and buy a Dragon from SpaceX, they can perfectly launch it with the Soyuz for a price cheaper than SpaceX does. laughing
                      7. Blackmokona
                        Blackmokona April 30 2020 23: 10 New
                        -2
                        If so huge, then squeeze Falcon-9 from the market, while he himself squeezes everyone. Even the Pegasus launch vehicle kicks, and that one in a completely different weight category
                      8. slipped
                        slipped April 30 2020 23: 44 New
                        +1
                        Quote: BlackMokona
                        If so huge, then squeeze Falcon-9 from the market, while he himself squeezes everyone. Even the Pegasus launch vehicle kicks, and that one in a completely different weight category


                        Where did you see the "market"? laughing The US Congress has banned the launch of satellites with American components on our rockets from 2022. And Musk, by the way, was one of the lobbyists for this. Those. if any company today orders the production of a commercial satellite from the same SSL, it will not be possible to launch it with our rocket. Such a cool "market". We can now launch only Europeans from Airbus and our commercial vehicles, which, in principle, we are doing. Well, we are looking for other opportunities - for example, we are going to work with the UAE to launch their commercial payload with our carriers.
                      9. Blackmokona
                        Blackmokona 1 May 2020 04: 12 New
                        -3
                        Not banned.
                        The Pentagon forbade the Pentagon to use our rockets for its satellites. But he never in history used our rockets for his companions.
                        Therefore, nothing has changed
                      10. slipped
                        slipped 1 May 2020 19: 00 New
                        +1
                        Quote: BlackMokona
                        Therefore, nothing has changed


                        Quote: “Specifically, it is prohibited to grant contracts to foreign companies for the launch of commercial satellites,“ if it creates an unacceptable risk to cybersecurity. ”The new restrictions will affect satellites and systems for launching them, that is, launch vehicles. However, they do not apply to launches before December 31 2022. "

                        Pot such a vague wording can summarize any contract. And companies do not need such risks.

                        So see?
                      11. Blackmokona
                        Blackmokona 1 May 2020 20: 22 New
                        -2
                        The Pentagon had never before entered into startup contracts with foreign companies. Only with their own, others are not even allowed to tender
  • Crimean partisan 1974
    Crimean partisan 1974 April 30 2020 23: 25 New
    0
    But there are no tropical storms, storms and hurricanes, and where Falcon-9 is located .... are you really kidding ??? what the hell is the weather for the launch vehicle, only the window is important. because there’s a lot of garbage on the rifle, and if even a couple of docking, a bunch of satellites still interfere. Well, if there is still a person on board. Space weather required. Well, what is there on the Sun. and combine it all .... not three about tropical hurricanes when
  • voyaka uh
    voyaka uh April 30 2020 13: 38 New
    -1
    Musk puts in his pocket 2 billion, approximately every month.
    40 billion from him. Without any subsidies. Tesla made record profits.
  • GUSAR
    GUSAR April 30 2020 14: 51 New
    -1
    Whether it’s our philologist in space! That's where the streams will not fade, what streams are there
  • EXPrompt
    EXPrompt April 30 2020 11: 52 New
    10
    Who would have thought that Musk was even a heap and a virologist
    1. Insurgent
      Insurgent April 30 2020 12: 07 New
      +5
      Quote: EXPrompt
      Who would have thought that Musk was even a heap and a virologist

      yes "Master of Science in Science" ... He has no education in a British university, so he could be called - "British scientist".

      If suddenly If the "apalogues" of the breakthrough super car "Tesla" are drawn, then for them there is unpleasant information from the PRC, which they do not trumpet around the world, unlike Musk ...

    2. Mordvin 3
      Mordvin 3 April 30 2020 22: 53 New
      0
      Quote: EXPrompt
      Who would have thought that Musk was even a heap and a virologist

      And also a swindler. laughing
      1. Gegemon
        Gegemon April 30 2020 22: 58 New
        +2
        Quote: mordvin xnumx
        Quote: EXPrompt
        Who would have thought that Musk was even a heap and a virologist

        And also a swindler. laughing

        I learned from Russians in instagram .. Damn it, I don’t like foreign words
        But Elon Musk actively communicated with the Russians .. wassat
  • Sergey39
    Sergey39 April 30 2020 11: 52 New
    0
    Musk decided to act in politics, a locomotive against Trump.
    1. Blackmokona
      Blackmokona April 30 2020 11: 56 New
      0
      Like be the other way around for trump to the full yanked.
  • Same lech
    Same lech April 30 2020 11: 53 New
    +4
    The whole world goes to a digital concentration camp ... so that Musk resembles the noble Hidalgo Don Quixote jumping on the mill.
    The state will take complete control over the entire life of an ordinary citizen, including his personal life ... I already see all the signs of this in the activities of legislators of various kinds.
    1. Sidor Amenpodestovich
      Sidor Amenpodestovich April 30 2020 12: 00 New
      -4
      How does this threaten humanity?
      1. Same lech
        Same lech April 30 2020 12: 08 New
        +3
        How does this threaten humanity?

        Yes, at least the dictatorship of some kind of stratum of people imagining themselves above society.
        1. Sidor Amenpodestovich
          Sidor Amenpodestovich April 30 2020 12: 10 New
          0
          And now this is not?
          1. Same lech
            Same lech April 30 2020 12: 30 New
            +2
            And now this is not?

            We are in the initial stage. smile
            1. Sidor Amenpodestovich
              Sidor Amenpodestovich April 30 2020 12: 32 New
              -2
              You think so only because only recently, relatively, began to think about it.
              1. Same lech
                Same lech April 30 2020 12: 47 New
                -1
                No ... I just hoped that this cup would pass our society ... as I see now, we will have to drink it in full.
                Let's look at the further lawmaking of the State Duma deputies after the coronavirus pandemic ... maybe all the developments that are being tested now will already be legalized in relation to other cases.
                1. Sidor Amenpodestovich
                  Sidor Amenpodestovich April 30 2020 12: 54 New
                  +3
                  Where do you personally see the threat of state control? Studying your browser history? Where did you go and what did you do there? What are you afraid of? What's your favorite movie "V for Vendetta"?
                  1. Same lech
                    Same lech April 30 2020 13: 01 New
                    +2
                    What do you personally see as a threat to state control?

                    Good question. smile
                    The threat of state control is, first of all, prohibitions, restrictions, imposing unacceptable rules ... fines and others for violating them and it is possible to be added to the list of potentially dangerous violators with the ensuing consequences ... a wolf ticket when contacting any organization ... in general, using pressure methods there are plenty of states for those who are dissatisfied with something.
                    I don’t want any government official or civil servant for me, for example, to decide how I should behave in my family.
                    1. Sidor Amenpodestovich
                      Sidor Amenpodestovich April 30 2020 13: 12 New
                      +3
                      Quote: The same LYOKHA
                      I don’t want any government official or civil servant for me, for example, to decide how I should behave in my family.

                      But it has always been and always will be!
                      The modern technological level, which provided citizens with ample opportunities for the exchange of opinions, in the same way provided the state with ample opportunities for the control of those very citizens.
                    2. Sergej1972
                      Sergej1972 April 30 2020 13: 48 New
                      +1
                      If someone regularly beats his wife, and she does not report to the appropriate authorities out of fear or stupidity, the state, in my opinion, has every right to intervene.
                    3. AU Ivanov.
                      AU Ivanov. April 30 2020 15: 20 New
                      0
                      So it already was. Prohibitions, restrictions, unacceptable rules, spreading the word against them. The Soviet Union was called. And without any high technology.
    2. Lopatov
      Lopatov April 30 2020 12: 00 New
      +2
      Quote: The same LYOKHA
      Musk resembles the noble Hidalgo Don Quixote jumping in the mill.

      Don Quixote did not jump to the mills because they deprived him of part of his income ..
      1. Same lech
        Same lech April 30 2020 12: 10 New
        0
        Don Quixote did not jump to the mills because they deprived him of part of his income ..
        Right ... smile with someone you have to fight for your beliefs.
    3. unaha
      unaha April 30 2020 12: 01 New
      +2
      "The state will take full control of the entire life of an ordinary citizen, including his personal life."
      At least I’ll try very hard to do it. You also have to pay extra))).
      "The Federation Council finalized the bill on the registration of smartphones by IMEI, allowing the Government to set the amount of payment for this procedure and giving telecom operators the right to block unregistered devices. The document is being prepared for submission to the State Duma, and the entry into force of the new rules is tentatively scheduled for July 2021. "
      1. AU Ivanov.
        AU Ivanov. April 30 2020 13: 19 New
        -2
        Frightened the hedgehog with a bare ass. IMEI on almost all smartphones can, after certain manipulations, be exchanged for another, at least from your previous phone, which was registered. This is no worse than locking Telegram or Flibusta. Another stillborn lawmaking.
        1. T.Henks
          T.Henks April 30 2020 13: 53 New
          +1
          Here the keyword is almost. And 99% of the holders, by definition, will not be able to do this. On decent gadgets, this option does not work. But the lawmaking of Ukrainian deputies should be sought. They oh how long it took.
          1. AU Ivanov.
            AU Ivanov. April 30 2020 14: 01 New
            -1
            The world is not without good people. For the appropriate fee. For decent gadgets, there is a programmer.
            1. T.Henks
              T.Henks April 30 2020 15: 11 New
              0
              Is it worth it to fence a garden for 100 rubles? Yes, and the hash after the firmware is clearly not the same as the standard.
              1. AU Ivanov.
                AU Ivanov. April 30 2020 15: 16 New
                -1
                If you buy a "gray" smartphone on Ali or in our internet stores, you may have to fence. But, most quickly, online stores will already do it for you, they also want to eat. I, the other day, also "lost" IMEI when flashing my Chinese to custom. Recovered, programmatically, without test points and programmers.
                1. T.Henks
                  T.Henks April 30 2020 15: 23 New
                  0
                  I do not have Chinese.
                  1. AU Ivanov.
                    AU Ivanov. April 30 2020 15: 30 New
                    0
                    The Chinese now have the majority. Wang, that the Chinese (people) will simplify the IMEI change as much as possible so that their sales do not fall.
        2. unaha
          unaha April 30 2020 15: 21 New
          -1
          Can.
          But in parallel: "The expert council under the government proposes to introduce punishment for IMEI counterfeiting. Individuals for IMEI counterfeiting are proposed to be fined for 3000-4000 rubles, officials - 15000-30000, legal - 60000-100000."
          1. AU Ivanov.
            AU Ivanov. April 30 2020 15: 28 New
            -1
            It is very difficult to identify. How do you let the PPSO determine if I have a genuine IMEI on my Chinese or have I flashed it from a previous device that has already been recycled?
            1. T.Henks
              T.Henks 1 May 2020 10: 06 New
              0
              Yes, like two fingers on the asphalt. imei and wasps, and here is the result. Phone ID yet. This is the basis for the way to connect the Internet in smarts by sending SMS settings to the user. Logs remain with the provider. And so all this fuss is not worth a damn. One hundred rubles is not money. Just another subparagraph of the spring law. Like, we plow on the galleys nightly.
    4. Same lech
      Same lech April 30 2020 12: 01 New
      +2
      On April 17, the State Duma of the Russian Federation almost imperceptibly adopted in the second reading the government bill "On a single federal information register containing information about the population of the Russian Federation", which includes all the complete information about every citizen of the country - from birth to death.

      'Used information from legal social network https://www.9111.ru'
      I hope they don’t put me in jail for this information.
      1. acetophenon
        acetophenon April 30 2020 13: 18 New
        +2
        Totzhelekh, I believe, you are firmly convinced that they will not be "imprisoned," otherwise your post would not be here and there would be no spirit.
      2. AU Ivanov.
        AU Ivanov. April 30 2020 15: 33 New
        0
        And what new have you seen here? All your data is already known: where you were born, where you studied, when you took a loan, what you were sick of, etc. All this is on the servers and it is not difficult for an interested person to get information. I don’t see a problem.
    5. stalki
      stalki April 30 2020 12: 01 New
      +1
      The whole world goes to a digital concentration camp ... so that Musk resembles the noble Hidalgo Don Quixote jumping on the mill.
      The state will take full control of the whole life of an ordinary citizen, including his personal life ... I already see all the signs of this in the activities of legislators of various kinds
      In your opinion, nature did poorly when a person gave the brain, so that he controlled all the organs of the body and all possible processes? It is inevitable, the world will not be the same. Whether we like it or not. But how to properly organize digitalization and centralization is a separate and probably the most important issue. Here it is also necessary to understand.
      1. Same lech
        Same lech April 30 2020 12: 04 New
        +2
        In your opinion, nature did poorly when a person gave the brain, so that he controlled all the organs of the body and all possible processes?

        A man imagines himself to be the navel of the universe trying to take everything and everything under his control ... he himself is not yet perfect both morally and psychologically, but he is already climbing on to control mother nature ... I believe that humanity will have more than one surprise come from the creator.
        I am categorically against digital control of a person’s personal life and I am convinced that the state has no right to interfere in a person’s family and personal life.
        1. stalki
          stalki April 30 2020 15: 02 New
          0
          A man imagines himself to be the navel of the universe trying to take everything and everything under his control ... he himself is not yet perfect both morally and psychologically, but he is already climbing on to control mother nature ... I believe that humanity will have more than one surprise come from the creator.
          I am categorically against digital control of a person’s personal life and I am convinced that the state has no right to interfere in a person’s family and personal life.
          Man is a part of nature, its crown, so to speak, can be successfully woven, or maybe not, certainly its creation. And at least scream, at least walk along the walls, we should rake it all ourselves. Do you know what they say? He who does nothing does not make mistakes. But the movement cannot be stopped, evolution will not ask you; you do not need it. Technology penetrates our lives irreversibly, control is being improved. If you are in a society, then be so kind as to accept social restrictions and control. But do not want to, so go wild, take your family, settle where there is no one (if such places remain) do not use the connection, do not watch TV, get horses, chickens, etc., etc. it is not forbidden to you. There is still an option to join the wild tribes of the Aborigines, there are those who don’t even touch them, they don’t specifically accept them into civilization. If they don’t let you go on the roast right away, it’s lucky laughing And believe me, Mother Nature herself will deal with us when she sees fit. And unexpectedly and without permission.
        2. AU Ivanov.
          AU Ivanov. April 30 2020 15: 39 New
          0
          One’s personal life, in one way or another, is controlled by the state. It is so important, in what form it will be done: in digital or analog?
    6. Incompetent
      Incompetent April 30 2020 12: 04 New
      0
      By the way, it doesn’t apply to religion, but the message of John the Theologian says that there will come a time when everyone will know everything about everyone and everyone will have the seal of the devil without which he can’t buy anything, but really everything goes to that ..
      1. Sidor Amenpodestovich
        Sidor Amenpodestovich April 30 2020 12: 09 New
        0
        All banknotes have individual numbers.
        1. AU Ivanov.
          AU Ivanov. April 30 2020 15: 54 New
          +1
          And in the passport, oh God, not only the number, but also the full name, and date of birth with a residence permit and marital status. And there is also SNILS and TIN. And a driver’s license. And they are all with numbers. We all will die?
    7. Pereira
      Pereira April 30 2020 12: 07 New
      +2
      He is ready to stop jumping at the mill if they give it to him.
    8. bk316
      bk316 April 30 2020 12: 22 New
      +8
      The whole world goes to the digital concentration camp ...

      Alexei! Well, you are just like a child. What are you (this is a multiplier number laughing ) call the digital concentration camp has long come. All less developed countries have long taken control of their citizens. FULL INFORMATION CONTROL.
      The most interesting. that TK was written during the USSR. Just implemented already in the Russian Federation ....
      1. Same lech
        Same lech April 30 2020 12: 27 New
        +1
        What you (this multiplier number) call a digital concentration camp has long come.

        Yes, I understood this for a long time ... it's just that its own skin is already itching on the threshold of the whips and bogs from those in power. smile will flog for any offense invented by the State Duma.
        1. bk316
          bk316 April 30 2020 13: 20 New
          +9
          will flog for any offense invented by the State Duma.

          Oh well .. Nothing has changed since Saltykov-Shchedrin.
          Nobody canceled the obligation to enforce laws.
          Do you think, for example, now the state does not know who is evading taxes or is conducting a criminal business or lives on bribes? He knows everything, but he doesn’t sit half the country ....

          You know, I’m an extremely law-abiding citizen, a white salary, everything is registered, and boats, land, buildings. I don’t give a bribe in principle. I try not to violate traffic rules. I catch fish by law. Well and further in the same vein. Somehow I decided to count it out together with a lawyer, how much I still violate. Guess the result laughing wassat
  • FIR FIR
    FIR FIR April 30 2020 12: 02 New
    +4
    Everyone has their own goals, both at a feast and in tragedy.
    To whom for 16 hours to stand at the operating table.
    Who is looking for work to feed the family.
    And .. who is PR for everything on which PR can be done.
  • Pereira
    Pereira April 30 2020 12: 06 New
    +5
    Well yes phrase
    forced self-isolation
    sounds idiotic. But what does fascism have to do with it? Mussolini would never have thought of that. He would simply impose quarantine or a state of emergency.
    But such phrases here, and in fact self-derogation of one’s own freedoms, are a vivid creation of democracy.
  • Vasyan1971
    Vasyan1971 April 30 2020 12: 07 New
    0
    At the same time, the entrepreneur demanded that the authorities “return their people (obscene abuse) freedom”.

    Really! This "freedom", namely -
    (foul language)
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    1. Doccor18
      Doccor18 April 30 2020 12: 12 New
      +5
      How charming, the billionaire took care of the freedom of hard workers.
      Something new. It looks like the company is skidding without a start. Or wanted cheap popularity.
      1. Mavrikiy
        Mavrikiy April 30 2020 12: 30 New
        0
        Quote: Doccor18
        Or wanted cheap popularity.

        Why not, a new successful candidate for Trump. The ways of the Lord ... request
  • Keyser soze
    Keyser soze April 30 2020 12: 13 New
    +6
    Elon Musk, commenting on the quarantine measures taken against the spread of COVID-19, called them “fascist” and broke into foul language.


    Well done! For a month now, as soon as I can and abuse I can express myself about my government. They forbade everything, they helped just like anyone, but they killed a cloud of millions.
    1. dzvero
      dzvero April 30 2020 13: 17 New
      -1
      And the funniest thing is that we will hurry to change the law. We intend to introduce restrictions without entering the emergency mode. I explain to the forum users from Russia - now we will have voluntary self-isolation with draconian fines for non-compliance. Moreover, it is absolutely legal (kakba democracy). The example of the Russian government is contagious. They need to patent and take deductions.
      PS embed emoticons according to preferences smile
      1. T.Henks
        T.Henks April 30 2020 14: 01 New
        +2
        Yes, in France and not so people are being persecuted. Already the budget is almost full.
  • BREAKTHROUGH READY
    BREAKTHROUGH READY April 30 2020 12: 16 New
    +1
    Musk, although an American, pushes his thoughts very sound.
    I think that he is an intelligent person in life, and not just an entrepreneur.
  • Azazelo
    Azazelo April 30 2020 12: 19 New
    -5
    For all the good versus all the bad .... well, I would go to Ukraine, go to the torchlight procession and tell the fascists everything that they think about them .... no, it doesn’t work? ...
  • Charik
    Charik April 30 2020 12: 23 New
    +3
    Interesting reaction of readers — Where did Rogozin go ?, jumped on the trampoline from the virus?
    1. iouris
      iouris April 30 2020 13: 35 New
      +1
      Quote: Charik
      Where did Rogozin go?

      All gone somewhere. Rogozin forgot the name of Musk. And Rospotrebnadzor will provide us with freedom, and This freedom will comply with technical regulations, i.e. she will be safe.
  • Pvi1206
    Pvi1206 April 30 2020 12: 30 New
    +1
    human rights ... does the right to life not apply to them? ...
    1. Courier
      Courier April 30 2020 12: 45 New
      +1
      To live without food? Are you talking about such a life?
      This does not happen.
  • Yaro Polk
    Yaro Polk April 30 2020 12: 38 New
    0
    And what has "fascism" to do with it, as if only blacks or Mexicans were closed at home?))
  • cniza
    cniza April 30 2020 12: 41 New
    +5
    The complex of sanitary measures introduced by the American authorities because of the coronavirus pandemic is a violation of the rights of citizens.


    And the ban to kill is also a restriction of freedom?
    1. alien
      alien April 30 2020 13: 36 New
      0
      Quote: cniza
      The complex of sanitary measures introduced by the American authorities because of the coronavirus pandemic is a violation of the rights of citizens.

      Rather, it is a curtsy of Ilona Mask towards countries where there are romanceready to follow him.

      Krasnodar residents recorded a video for the song for Ilona Mask:

      "Also during the video clip, Congressnaya Street, where Krasnodar EXPO is located, was renamed into the street named after Ilona Mask."
      1. cniza
        cniza April 30 2020 13: 41 New
        +4
        Soros continues to work ...
        1. Gegemon
          Gegemon April 30 2020 16: 35 New
          +2
          Quote: cniza
          Soros continues to work ...

          Only a little more secretive and cunning Victor .. This is very felt by the mass activation of neoliber at all levels ..
  • iouris
    iouris April 30 2020 12: 42 New
    -1
    And Bill Gates is against!
    1. Gegemon
      Gegemon April 30 2020 16: 38 New
      +2
      Quote: iouris
      And Bill Gates is against!

      Bill Gates, 10 years ago, in his cynical interview predicted the emergence of viruses that would finally count the planet from unnecessary human resources ..
  • Victorio
    Victorio April 30 2020 12: 47 New
    0
    Elon Musk opposed
    ===
    do not care for him coronovirus, he is masked for life
  • iouris
    iouris April 30 2020 12: 54 New
    -1
    Note that all the notable human rights defenders are silent. So, there’s nothing to return. Bill Gates won, and Elon Musk lost.
    1. voyaka uh
      voyaka uh April 30 2020 13: 41 New
      +2
      Both Gates and Musk won. Both have growing profits.
      1. iouris
        iouris April 30 2020 14: 38 New
        0
        All the profits that could be obtained have already been received. Here the conversation is no longer about profit. Existential problems are rising. When did this happen (in the life of this generation, of course)?
        1. voyaka uh
          voyaka uh April 30 2020 16: 08 New
          +1
          Epidemics are equated with national disasters and wars.
          Governments are allowed to impose a state of emergency.
          1. iouris
            iouris April 30 2020 19: 31 New
            -1
            What is this structure that gives permission to governments? But since no emergency has been introduced, this means there is no war, i.e. it has already ended. But there are still questions: how the war ended, who won, who will be appointed guilty, who will pay the contribution, what to do with the prisoners ...
  • Prisoner
    Prisoner April 30 2020 12: 55 New
    -1
    For the sake of saving profits, this gentleman is ready to sacrifice the virus to a bunch of his fellow citizens.
  • rocket757
    rocket757 April 30 2020 12: 59 New
    0
    Interesno, and the "fascists" are not subject to financing?
    1. Blackmokona
      Blackmokona April 30 2020 13: 06 New
      +1
      Is someone financing it?
      1. rocket757
        rocket757 April 30 2020 14: 13 New
        0
        As the sergeant in the army said, he has a hundred ways to raise a soldier to the position of a robe, and EVERYTHING IS BY CHARTER!
        Without entering into controversy over who finances whom and how, it can be argued that those "fascists" have multiple ways to omit this ... "dreamer" from space to earth .... and everything is according to the law, note.
        1. Blackmokona
          Blackmokona April 30 2020 14: 28 New
          0
          So in the upper echelons there is strong debate whether to prolong or not to extend quarantine. After all, colossal losses go
          1. rocket757
            rocket757 April 30 2020 14: 36 New
            +1
            As the song says - Giraffe is big, he knows better! -
            The arguments are serious on both sides.
            People are very scared, again, both by virus and lack of money!
            I don’t know which is better! I work, the salary is coming ... but I have friends who have close friends who have nothing to do with ah.
            Those. a dilemma, I don’t want to get sick, but people need to work, those on whom restrictions have fallen like ... they’re worse, shorter.
            1. UserGun
              UserGun April 30 2020 15: 02 New
              0
              I’ll tell you terrible things, but EVERYONE will suffer from this muck (like flu). The only question is the time lag.
              1. rocket757
                rocket757 April 30 2020 15: 11 New
                +1
                We’re not considering the option of getting everyone sick right away. There is no clear idea how to treat this .... and I really do not want to lie in the hospital corridor without proper medical care, because there are too many patients at once.
                The option is unacceptable.
                That is, as in the song "if sickly immediately into the coffin .....", even if it does not happen in real life!
                1. UserGun
                  UserGun April 30 2020 21: 31 New
                  -1
                  Quote: rocket757
                  The option is unacceptable.


                  Yes, I did not offer an option. It will just be so, with any option. Sooner or later, it’s not sad. The vaccine, according to even the most blissful option, is not earlier than 2021, that is, six months ahead of us. So imagine how many people get sick. Someone is easy, and someone and how you sang above ...
                  1. rocket757
                    rocket757 April 30 2020 22: 06 New
                    +1
                    If everyone is allowed to push with their elbows everywhere and everywhere, a lot more will immediately get sick ... the option to lie in the corridor or immediately in the "ice palace" is not excluded!
                    Stretch the "process" in time, the option looks much more reasonable.
                    1. UserGun
                      UserGun April 30 2020 22: 32 New
                      -1
                      They don't care in Belarus. And somehow they do not lie in the corridors ... with rent something about Sweden, some kind of blizzard was carrying, excitedly, forgetting that every fifth pensioner there. Italy was generally recognized as the "oldest" country in Europe. Why am I saying this? And to the fact that this coronavirus hits the elderly. The older, the harder it hits, judging by the number of deaths. We are in Europe, as before Beijing with cancer, by these indicators and indirectly by these figures, you can see how all of us were warmed up by a zero companion, carrying a blizzard about retirement age, and now he is again trying to carry a blizzard about how well this camarilla works with him, during the head of the school of cranes. I'm just amazed at how this, simply falling, "leader" drags on from such show-offs, manipulating his "vertical"
                      1. rocket757
                        rocket757 1 May 2020 00: 07 New
                        +1
                        Yes, you’re my friend .... in general, can you tell the address of the hospital, or will you find it yourself? It's time, in general, it's time ... they will help you there.
                        The whole session is over, to you in another office.
            2. Gegemon
              Gegemon April 30 2020 16: 32 New
              -1
              Quote: rocket757
              As the song says - Giraffe is big, he knows better! -

              Vysotsky knew how to compose songs with deep meaning ..
              Quote: rocket757
              People are very scared, again, both by virus and lack of money!
              I don’t know which is better! I work, the salary is coming ... but I have friends who have close friends who have nothing to do with ah.
              Those. a dilemma, I don’t want to get sick, but people need to work, those on whom restrictions have fallen like ... they’re worse, shorter.

              And there are not a few of such people in Russia .. Prior to quarantine, low-income families even knew that they would feed their children at school for free .. And now everyone would at least distribute humanitarian aid, and the authorities are silent about this ..
              1. rocket757
                rocket757 April 30 2020 17: 13 New
                +1
                Quote: Gegemon
                .. Prior to quarantine, low-income families even knew that they would feed their children at school for free

                In schools they give out rations to children! And not a little secured, but to everyone. But few go to SOC PROTECTION and receive additional help. This is a fact, because in our village it is just that.
                I don’t praise the authorities, for many reasons, BUT if the FACT takes place, the event is to be written like that, and not clumsy without work.
                For your information, if you DO NOT have it, you need to understand the place of the event ... although, you had to think, act earlier when you had to choose the RESPONSIBLE people, and not anyhow!
                1. Gegemon
                  Gegemon April 30 2020 17: 18 New
                  0
                  Quote: rocket757
                  In schools they give out rations to children! And not a little secured, but to everyone. But few go to SOC PROTECTION and receive additional help. This is a fact, because in our village it is just that.

                  Well, I heard about it, but have not yet seen in our Urals hi
                  Quote: rocket757
                  I don’t praise the authorities, for many reasons, BUT if the FACT takes place, the event is to be written like that, and not clumsy without work.
                  For your information, if you DO NOT have it, you need to understand the place of the event ... although, you had to think, act earlier when you had to choose the RESPONSIBLE people, and not anyhow!

                  You are right, of course, and this coronovirus, a serious check of the state, how it takes care of its subjects .. So far, only words are bad and the cops are rolling around the streets with their threats and fines ..
                  1. rocket757
                    rocket757 April 30 2020 17: 38 New
                    +2
                    I sympathize with you and everyone.
                    In fact, he described the situation, why the Liberal Democratic Party (LDPR), and not someone from other parties, was in our favor! They deserve it by their deeds. People do not forget anything and "thanked" their candidates in the elections. It turned out that it was not in vain! We were also lucky with the governor, for once! Before him, there were goats z-like shots, which everyone spits about when remembering !!!
                    Do not sit on ... a place! Check, seek, order and execution of orders from above! Assistance to the population, schools and the poor, this is the FEDERAL program, which is slowed down on the ground!
                    1. Gegemon
                      Gegemon April 30 2020 17: 50 New
                      +2
                      Quote: rocket757
                      Do not sit on ... a place! Check, seek, order and execution of orders from above! Assistance to the population, schools and the poor, this is the FEDERAL program, which is slowed down on the ground!

                      I now learned from the workers of the CBR, they give out rations to the poor, so in vain I blundered here .. Sorry! hi
                      1. rocket757
                        rocket757 April 30 2020 18: 19 New
                        +2
                        Learn, check, include common sense, it will be right.
                        The authorities, the upper, have a blame for what, but when / if they do it right, these facts cannot be ignored.
                        A full assessment of events, the only way.
                    2. UserGun
                      UserGun April 30 2020 20: 53 New
                      0
                      Quote: rocket757
                      We were also lucky with the governor, for once! Before him there were goats with star-shaped shots, about which everyone spits remembering !!!


                      With Sipyagin or something ?! But he’s not. Passing pawn. The same gray mass, like everyone else.
                      1. rocket757
                        rocket757 April 30 2020 21: 44 New
                        +1
                        No, no, we have Bocharov, we are from Stalingrad.
            3. Blackmokona
              Blackmokona April 30 2020 20: 16 New
              -1
              The head of NASA has just announced that Musk is one of the three winners of the competition to create a spacecraft to land a man on the moon by 2024
              1. rocket757
                rocket757 April 30 2020 22: 01 New
                +1
                This is their business. The flag in their hands and forward.
  • Cottodraton
    Cottodraton April 30 2020 13: 11 New
    0
    In other words, for all the good, against all the bad)
  • DDT
    DDT April 30 2020 13: 22 New
    0
    In general, the rollback to dictatorship in Europe and America is not a new phenomenon. I think this pandemic will not help the dictatorship in any way. Unless, with this virus, it will be possible by pressing a button to kill the necessary-unnecessary person without any criminal procedural delays. But you must admit, double-edged weapons ... may fall into the wrong hands.
  • Svetlana
    Svetlana April 30 2020 13: 28 New
    0
    My opinion in this story coincides with his opinion. We are limited because we are likely to get sick, and if we are likely to get sick, we will probably die. And ideology where the state is above all, this is one of the manifestations of fascism.
    1. alien
      alien April 30 2020 13: 57 New
      +6
      Quote: Svetlana
      My opinion in this story coincides with his opinion.

      First, try familiarizing yourself with this:

      - 34-year-old doctor from China, LI WENLIAN (ophthalmologist!), Was the first to warn of coronavirus.

      https://kp-platform.cdnvideo.ru/kp/mp4/54/760201_1581442184.mp4

      - More than 100 doctors in Italy have died from coronavirus. This does not happen during the bad flu season.
      https://rg.ru/2020/04/09/bolee-100-vrachej-v-italii-skonchalis-ot-koronavirusa.html

      - In Tehran, journalist Hamed Jalali Kashan died.
      “He previously claimed that rumors of a coronavirus in Iran exaggerate the government to reduce voter turnout in parliamentary elections in the country.
      He died on the night of February 29 in a hospital in Tehran from a coronavirus. Kashane posted a tweet on February 21 stating he didn’t mind getting infected with Sars-CoV-2:
      "Well, I got to the hospital with the flu. I wish it was a coronavirus... One could laugh and hyip ", - the journalist wrote."
      https://strana.ua/news/256526-iranskij-zhurnalist-kotoryj-shutil-nad-koronavirusom-umer-podkhvativ-infektsiju.html

      - Russian nuclear physicist dies of coronavirus at the age of 37
      “Danila flew from CERN on March 22, sat down on hard quarantine, felt unwell, on April 4 he was hospitalized at the Kommunarka hospital. The first two tests were negative, ”the institute explained.
      The latest test confirmed COVID-19; it was not possible to save the man’s life. The institute noted that Tlisov was a very promising scientist.
      https://www.business-gazeta.ru/news/465019?utm_source=covid19
      https://www.inr.ru/

      Krasnodar
      “My dad was gone ... A wonderful father, husband, son, radiologist. He died like a hero, a hero of our time!

      06.04.2020/19/XNUMX he joined the ranks of doctors of the infectious diseases hospital, deployed in Labinsk against COVID-XNUMX. He worked to the last, helping people .. even with fever and weakness, he described new patients.
      But in the fight against the virus, he lost ...

      He was the best father and simply an incredible HUMAN, always letting every sick person through himself, worrying about each one as if he were his own. He burned at work, lighting ...

      You are welcome! I beg you! Sit at home!»
      https://t.me/krd_tipich_ru/24395
      1. Svetlana
        Svetlana April 30 2020 14: 02 New
        -3
        What for? To be imbued? Nothing will change ideologically from this.
        1. alien
          alien April 30 2020 14: 23 New
          +4
          Quote: Svetlana
          What for? To be imbued?

          Well then, to understand what it means freedom from the mask.

          The chief physician of the State Clinical Hospital No. 52 of Moscow, Maryana Lysenko:
          “Many young people began to act, and often we see that they have no chronic diseases. But this does not always help to avoid deaths.
          <…> The forecasts, unfortunately, for the medium term are not very encouraging yet. We are now approaching the peak of morbidity and therefore the number of patients will, of course, grow for some time. But in the city as a whole, thanks to the technology of fast construction of buildings, the capital's hospitals will have a "certain backlash" in beds. "
          https://tass.ru/interviews/8310475

          Academician of the Russian Academy of Sciences, Alexander Chuchalin
          “In Moscow now more 2,5 thousand patients. I work in a 7-story building that has 300 beds. So every day you have to have 8 such cases. Health care in the capital is undergoing a rather severe test.
          And I do not like hateful statements about him, because in this situation, the system works clearly and extremely assembled. I can not say about some of the doctors who today work simply heroically.

          This is the chief doctor of the hospital in Kommunarka, doctor of medical sciences Denis N. Protsenko, director of the Sklifosovsky institute, corresponding member of the Russian Academy of Sciences Sergey Sergeevich Petrikov and head of the anesthesiology department of this research institute, doctor of medical sciences Sergey Vladimirovich Zhuravel. A very strong team at City Clinical Hospital No. 52. I am proud of my student, the chief pulmonologist of Moscow, Professor Andrei Stanislavovich Belevsky, who now works every day for 17 hours, going around all hospitals and dealing with the most difficult patients. You can name dozens, if not hundreds of names. ”
          https://rg.ru/2020/04/19/nauka-shag-za-shagom-otkryvaet-tajny-koronavirusa.html
      2. Mordvin 3
        Mordvin 3 April 30 2020 23: 19 New
        -1
        Quote: Alien
        You are welcome! I beg you! Sit at home! "

        Will I suck my paw at home?
        1. Liam
          Liam April 30 2020 23: 21 New
          +1
          Quote: mordvin xnumx
          Quote: Alien
          You are welcome! I beg you! Sit at home! "

          Will I suck my paw at home?

          Prefer in intensive care?) If the place will be
          1. Mordvin 3
            Mordvin 3 April 30 2020 23: 24 New
            -1
            Quote: Liam
            Prefer in intensive care?)

            So what is the choice to bend off dystrophy, or bend off the virus? Yes, I prefer the second.
            1. Liam
              Liam April 30 2020 23: 26 New
              +1
              This is because you poorly imagine the reality of the patient with this infection in intensive care.
              1. Mordvin 3
                Mordvin 3 April 30 2020 23: 31 New
                -1
                Quote: Liam
                This is because you poorly imagine the reality of the patient with this infection in intensive care.

                Do you think that starving to death is better, or go crazy from lack of money? Yes, I work and I hope that the infection will bypass me. In this regard, I am not alone, but I have an advantage, I work alone, I do not ride public transport and have few contacts.
                1. Liam
                  Liam April 30 2020 23: 35 New
                  +1
                  I believe that there is no healthy economy with sick workers and that this is a false choice. It will end up working and getting sick for a couple of weeks. Ultimately, they won’t earn any money and they’ll ruin their health right up to disability. And even worse.
                  1. Mordvin 3
                    Mordvin 3 April 30 2020 23: 46 New
                    0
                    Quote: Liam
                    I believe that there is no healthy economy with sick workers and that this is a false choice.

                    This is so, no doubt. But what to do to those to whom the "state" does not help financially and there are no financial stash, despite the fact that no one has canceled the payment for the communal apartment and does not give out free products? Moreover, it helps people to roam the streets? Today I wanted to pay for the Internet with cash at a Sberbank ATM, it turned out that they do not accept payment either for the Internet or a mobile phone. I had to walk to the office of the Internet operator.
                    1. Liam
                      Liam 1 May 2020 00: 06 New
                      +1
                      Fortunately, I don’t have these problems. But if I were in such a situation, I would have scored on the housing and communal services and so on while I’m sitting at home. Health is more important than what 15/20000 people earn for this month.
                      1. Mordvin 3
                        Mordvin 3 1 May 2020 00: 08 New
                        -1
                        Quote: Liam
                        I would have scored on housing and communal services and stuff while I'm sitting at home.

                        Do not hammer on products.
                      2. Liam
                        Liam 1 May 2020 00: 17 New
                        +1
                        There is no food of course. I would take it to the far end). But I have the feeling that% of those who directly can’t even buy products and do not receive any help are not as high as they say.
                        And I perfectly understand that the state behaves like bestial in this case and I do not justify anything that they don’t do for those who have problems. If you subtract those services that still work, plus state employees who receive money at home, plus pensioners plus officers. unemployed and other categories who get their money as before, there are not many people left who need help a couple of months and provide 15/20 000 a month so that people do not have a reason to go out and ruin their health. Moreover, treat and pay for disability then this l people will cost the state much more
                      3. Mordvin 3
                        Mordvin 3 1 May 2020 00: 25 New
                        +1
                        Quote: Liam
                        But I have the feeling that% of those who directly can’t even buy products and do not receive any help are not as high as they say.

                        He may not be tall, but he is. Personally, I don’t have to go far for an example. My neighbor (a little over 50) died a year and a half ago, receiving a disability pension of less than 5 thousand. He lived together with his sister, a pensioner, for two thousand 16 came out. And 6-7 thousand - a fee for a communal apartment.
                      4. Liam
                        Liam 1 May 2020 00: 32 New
                        +2
                        I know that there are many problems of this kind. But this is such a global situation. I don’t live in Russia and therefore I don’t particularly discuss your internal problems, it’s your state and you have to figure out who is to blame and what to do. I criticize (or praise) only your government)
                        My conversation was only about the epidemic and whether it is worth risking health and life for the sake of 15.000. Health is definitely your own, personal and no one will return it later.
                      5. Mordvin 3
                        Mordvin 3 1 May 2020 00: 37 New
                        -1
                        Quote: Liam
                        I do not live in Russia

                        I remember where you live.
                        Quote: Liam
                        Health is definitely your own, personal and no one will return it later.

                        Well, this is already in the third round we went to tell a fairy tale about the White bull:
                        Quote: Mordvin 3
                        Will I suck my paw at home?

                        Enough, I guess. wink
                      6. Liam
                        Liam 1 May 2020 00: 40 New
                        +1
                        )). Russia is not alone in this situation. So far, everywhere in the world, quarantine (if you take it seriously) lasted 2 months. I think you can survive a couple of months without blinking)
                      7. Mordvin 3
                        Mordvin 3 1 May 2020 00: 49 New
                        0
                        Quote: Liam
                        . I think a couple of months you can survive and not chic)

                        After my father’s funeral, I didn’t have a lump. However, on the ninth day after his death, my mother received 8 phone calls from scammers. To whom the virus, and to whom the mother is dear. I’m ending here, anyway, I’ll go to work today, at least May 1, at least 9. People will not sit without water, they need to pump it.
                      8. Liam
                        Liam 1 May 2020 01: 01 New
                        +1
                        Condolences ...
                        Workers' holiday should be celebrated with shock labor)
                        We are 4 to work. Quarantine has ended
  • Liam
    Liam 1 May 2020 16: 40 New
    0
    Quote: Mordvin 3

    So what is the choice, to bend from dystrophy, or to bend from the virus? Yes, I prefer the second

    In the Murmansk region, a cleaner of one of the hostels died, where shift workers are located who are working on the construction of a center for large-capacity marine structures in the village of Belokamenka. The woman’s death was confirmed at a briefing by the regional Minister of Health Dmitry Panychev.

    The operational headquarters has not yet named the cause of death, however, the Velesstroy company, in which the woman worked, said that the second result of her in-vivo analysis on COVID-19 was positive. The organization also specified that the deceased arrived at a construction site from the Orenburg region, she was 51 years old.

    On April 28, a woman went to the doctor for outpatient care complaining of a dry cough and signs of SARS. This is the first death during a pandemic at a construction site in Belokamenka.

    According to official data, at 23 hours on April 30, coronavirus was confirmed in 1079 shift workers. A further 114 workers were diagnosed with COVID-19 after returning from duty to Yekaterinburg
    .
    It was worth it?
  • A. Privalov
    A. Privalov April 30 2020 14: 02 New
    -4
    Judging by the publication in the source, the first quarter went fine. Profit made with clearly good groundwork.
    Those wishing to admire the report for the 1st quarter of 2020 here:
    https://ir.tesla.com/static-files/c1723af4-ffda-4881-ae12-b6f3c972b795

    The second quarter, of course, will show a fall in all respects, but, as the ancient Greeks said, while the fat one loses weight, the thin one will die. But SpaceX is not at all a goner, it is not for nothing that they are the largest in the rating of Nasdaq 100 stocks this year, and give Gd to everyone.

    Investors shrugged off the outburst, with Tesla shares finishing the late trading session up 8.7%. The company third straight quarterly profit and revenue of almost $ 6 billion beat analysts' estimates, extending an advance for a stock that's already the biggest gainer on the Nasdaq 100 Stock Index this year.
  • veritas
    veritas April 30 2020 14: 22 New
    +8
    Everything is simple here, if the state enforces quarantine, then this is normal, provided that people are provided with everything necessary and if those have business, they will not be allowed to bend. But when they tell you to isolate themselves, while they don’t give you money and do not support the business, it is tantamount to self-ruin, which is similar to extermination under pressure.
  • Snail N9
    Snail N9 April 30 2020 15: 30 New
    -3
    A person is not afraid to call a spade a spade.
    1. alien
      alien April 30 2020 16: 21 New
      +2
      Quote: Snail N9
      A person is not afraid to call a spade a spade.

      For romantics:

      US space projects - smoke screen and the truth
      “Firstly, there is reason to consider the cosmic activity of this“ great combinator ”a kind of hoax, which is a way of disguising something quite real from prying eyes, but for the time being undesirable to wide publicity.”

      “Mask at the same time has its own engine, its carrier, its own control system, which is fully integrated and interfaced with the control systems of the cosmodrome at Cape Canaveral and Vanderberg base. Sorry, this does not happen.

      Control systems are not reconfigured for new media. The entire interface of the carrier is limited in a certain way through pipelines, pneumatics, control signals. These are tens and hundreds of control channels connecting the ground with the side of the rocket ... And then, it turns out, the boy Elon Musk, a talented inventor, comes in, who after 5 years takes a finished rocket out of his pocket and says: “Here's a rocket for starting complexes Canaverala and Vandenberg "

      Where did Musk get these options? Where did he get the entire interface for connecting the media to the launch pad? There is only one answer: all this came to the Mask from somewhere from the outside. ”
      https://zvezdaweekly.ru/news/t/201911181319-D9iA1.html
      1. Blackmokona
        Blackmokona April 30 2020 20: 15 New
        -3
        The fact that he rebuilt the site for himself. He has everything there.
        Three years of work, for example, at the SLc-40 site
        Falcon 9 Edit
        April 25, 2007 was leased by SpaceX from the US Air Force [2], after which it was converted to launch the Falcon 9 launch vehicle. In particular, new refueling tanks for kerosene and liquid oxygen were installed, a new launch unit, and a hangar for horizontal assembly launch vehicle and system for its movement and verticalization Transporter-Erector (TE) [1].

        The debut launch of the Falcon 9 launch vehicle from the SLC-40 launch complex took place on July 4, 2010.
  • Gegemon
    Gegemon April 30 2020 16: 24 New
    +3
    that Americans were forcibly locked up in their homes, depriving them of their freedom of movement, thereby violating their constitutional rights.

    We in Vladikavkaz also tried to be indignant and held rallies against isolation, etc. So, in recent years the number of infected people has tripled there .. hi
    1. alien
      alien April 30 2020 18: 43 New
      +2
      Quote: Gegemon
      .. were dominated

      Well, yes, there were few other people's examples:

      ITALY. Match Atalanta Valencia February 19.

      https://www.ilfattoquotidiano.it/2020/03/23/coronavirus-limmunoinfettivologo-atalanta-valencia-del-19-febbraio-e-stato-un-megafono-per-la-diffusione-del-contagio/5746112/

      SPAIN. Demonstration dedicated to International Women's Day on March 8.

      https://tass.ru/opinions/8115443
  • Fedorovich
    Fedorovich April 30 2020 17: 08 New
    +2
    Smoked again, or what?
  • Lord of the Sith
    Lord of the Sith April 30 2020 17: 31 New
    +4
    Who said that mask is a genius? Yes, he is a clown vulgaris, does not understand that people die from the virus.
    Send him to New York without a mask and a protective suit, even if he wanders around.
  • Gennady Fomkin
    Gennady Fomkin April 30 2020 20: 06 New
    +1
    What smarter did not find to discuss? laughing

    : I have not seen the light yet meaner

    Monetization of snot.

    In vain Musk spared the steps

    In honor of the mask - from rags. laughing
  • Gennady Fomkin
    Gennady Fomkin April 30 2020 20: 08 New
    +2
    Travokura bomb from other people's cuts. Feels robbed! laughing love
  • Disorder
    Disorder April 30 2020 20: 45 New
    +2
    Musk stumbled. Screwdriver assembly slip start.
  • Chaldon48
    Chaldon48 April 30 2020 20: 55 New
    -2
    The authorities, in their ostentatious desire to protect the population from the threat of infection, compete even more for loyalty to each other, to the lower authorities, often in order to curry favor with the higher, it is enough to "opt" the event, not thinking at all how the holding of this event will materially affect those whom they have gathered, as if "protect"
  • Gennady Fomkin
    Gennady Fomkin April 30 2020 21: 09 New
    +1
    And taking into account the fact that Ilyukha attached Tesla's nameplates to the ventilators, and Tesla has a tendency to arrange a bonfire of the Inquisition to drivers, then I’ll point out laughing
  • Gennady Fomkin
    Gennady Fomkin April 30 2020 21: 15 New
    +1
    Last week, Elon Errolovich Musk gave a powerful speech at a US Air Force conference in a packed hall of personnel, declaring "The era of fighters is over. The future is for UAVs!" What greatly puzzled the audience: headlines around the world startled humankind, and online debates erupted. Many Russian-speaking experts have already expressed their weighty opinion in the comments on the topic of Musk's statement, now let us give the floor to the representatives of the US Air Force: Although Musk certainly succeeded in provocation, his forecast has nothing to do with reality. Despite impressive advances in autonomous technology, manned fighters will continue to be the backbone of air superiority for decades to come. Musk's self-driving cars operate in two dimensions, with predictable laws of motion and understandable human behavior. And yet only at the end of 2019, three Tesla vehicles using the "autopilot" function were wrecked. One of them drove through a red light, and the collision killed two people. Another fatally crashed into a parked fire engine, and a third crashed into a police car on the highway. It is reasonable to note that the short- to medium-term potential for autonomy of the FUU should not be confused with science fiction. laughing
  • vkd.dvk
    vkd.dvk April 30 2020 23: 08 New
    +1
    He is completely crazy. Superbablo haunts. Himself, however, a bastard. sat alone and raved about the net.

    The United States holds a remarkable first place. It will be the first if you realize the nonsense of this crook.
    Status today, 30.04.2020/XNUMX/XNUMX
    Sick in the country 1042874
    Recovered in the country 124294
    Dead in the country 61187
    The remaining patients in the country 857393
    The ratio of dead / sick,% 5,867
    The ratio of cured / sick,% 11,918
  • vkd.dvk
    vkd.dvk April 30 2020 23: 13 New
    +1
    Quote: Lord of the Sith
    Who said that mask is a genius? Yes, he is a clown vulgaris, does not understand that people die from the virus.
    Send him to New York without a mask and a protective suit, even if he wanders around.

    No, everything is much worse. He understands such a bastard. But stopping production and burning superbabl ..... A real thug. To jump out by himself, he lays thousands of corpses under him, climbing up on them .... Covering his own interests with a rattle about the rights of citizens.
    One of his project of flying to Mars in ONE END that costs! People for him are shit.
    1. iouris
      iouris 1 May 2020 14: 18 New
      +1
      Quote: vkd.dvk
      Covering their own interests with a rattle about the rights of citizens.

      Who is Musk? From a financial point of view, he is nobody. Experts on the "new coronavirus", as far as can be judged, are nowhere to be found, how it is treated is unknown. Statistics cannot be trusted, objective data (some information) will appear early next year. It is known that there are still no masks on sale, no protective suits, no sanitizers, no doctors and beds ... And so much more.
      What is the bottom line today? What Musk is talking about. The rest is "the subject of discussion": "Your word against mine" ..
  • -ш-
    -ш- 1 May 2020 18: 09 New
    -1
    but what's the difference what it thinks? or will the opinions of every rich manager start posting already ... for me his opinion is not at the address, and at least in the analytics section
    1. iouris
      iouris 1 May 2020 21: 04 New
      0
      Quote: -sh-
      what's the difference what it thinks?

      First, people are not equal (and by nature, too). Second, it’s not about wealth: “managers” like Musk not only know more, but understand the essence of what is happening.
      Remember: if for a long time it seems to you that everything is clear, then propaganda works very successfully.
      1. -ш-
        -ш- 2 May 2020 03: 39 New
        0
        oh, he knows more there, it's funny ... the great manipulator of this world, and if you take someone famous, then let's start posting Kirkorov's opinion too ... he was a general or served somewhere or an influential politician, I still don't see real successes, some promises ... an ordinary huckster, how many ... and this "first" is generally nonsense
  • Zomanus
    Zomanus 2 May 2020 02: 34 New
    0
    And I, too. Let the Americans regain their freedom. Give two million sick by June !!!