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Nord Stream 2 has new problems due to old Russian “friends”

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"Academician Chersky", photo https://fleetphoto.ru


While the whole world is struggling with the coronavirus pandemic, some countries find for themselves a completely different source of global problems and declare their intentions to confront it, sparing no effort and resources. Over the most important domestic energy project, the Nord Stream-2 gas pipeline, the construction of which has recently turned into a real epic, clouds are gathering again.

The fact that Kiev "will make an absolute maximum effort" to ensure that the gas pipeline was never completed at all, since this project is "clearly political" and in addition "runs counter to the principles of European solidarity," said the other day the head of the Ukrainian gas transportation company systems Sergey Makogon. However, having finished with declarations obligatory in such cases, this figure directly pointed out the true reasons for the voiced aggressive intentions. According to him, Ukraine, which lost 15 billion cubic meters of annual transit as a result of the launch of the first line of the Turkish Stream, will lose everything after putting Nord Stream-2 into operation.

Kiev is well aware that, having implemented this project, Moscow will by no means fulfill its explicit extortion requirements, being no longer bound by obligations to its European partners, which it will be able to fulfill without involving the Ukrainian “pipe”. It is true, what methods and methods the “non-fallow” intends to achieve the disruption of construction, Pan Makogon did not specify. It was not for nothing that subsequently in the State Duma of Russia his demarche was called “hysteria”, the essence of which, by the way, contradicts primarily the interests of European consumers of Russian “blue fuel”.

The plans and claims of Warsaw, which synchronously with Kiev “attacked” the gas pipeline, are much more specific. So, the Deputy Minister of State Assets of Poland, Janusz Kowalski, said that the local energy company PGNiG, which allegedly won a lawsuit against the Russian RAO Gazprom under the so-called Yamal contract in the Stockholm arbitration, intends to seize the amount due to it (about $ 1,5 billion) assets of Nord Stream and Nord Stream-2. This, according to the Polish official, “will certainly slow down the completion of construction,” which, without a doubt, will greatly please official Warsaw, which is obviously firmly set to completely ruin relations with Moscow.

In turn, the press service of the pipeline construction operator, Nord Stream 2 AG, said that they had absolutely no idea about any lawsuits that could be related to its assets, and therefore affect the timing of the project . Moreover, the company does not show the slightest doubt that the gas pipeline will be completed earlier than planned, naturally, with some correction for the current emergency situations in the world in connection with the COVID-19 pandemic. Be that as it may, the work is planned to be completed before the end of this year, with a maximum in the first quarter of next. This information was recently confirmed by Rainer Seele, head of the Austrian energy corporation OMV, which is one of the investors in the project.

Nord Stream 2 is in reality nearing its successful conclusion. In fact, it remains to finish building about 50 kilometers of one of its “strings” and 70 - the second. If it were not for the sanctions imposed by the United States against companies owning pipe-laying vessels, this would most likely have already been done. However, the domestic ship of the corresponding class, the Academician Chersky, which is quite capable of “playing the final chord” in the protracted construction, is approaching every day the place where it is most needed now. Domestic experts explain the unpredictable maneuvers and changes in the course of this ship, which are not quite understandable to the majority of uninitiated citizens, quite simply: moving in this way, it tries to avoid the sanctions of the US regulators, which complicate their passage through the straits. As far as we know today, Kaliningrad has been declared the next destination of Academician Chersky. Nevertheless, with each mile traveled, he approaches the waters of the Baltic, in which he has to fulfill his most important mission.

"Nord Stream-2" will be completed, despite all the attempts of ill-wishers. It is necessary not only to Russia, but primarily to Europe itself. The fact that they perfectly understand this is evidenced by the following fact: according to RAO Gazprom, only in April of this year, Nord Stream 2 AG raised 87 and a half million euros of loan funds from European partners. You can be sure: in the current difficult crisis time, fisted Europeans would by no means invest such funds in a project in the implementation of which they would have at least the slightest doubt.
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  2. Mitroha
    Mitroha April 30 2020 05: 15 New
    11
    Of course we finish, in spite and in spite of.
    But, after such actions
    The fact that Kiev "will make an absolute maximum effort" to ensure that the pipeline was never completed at all .....

    It is necessary to put all efforts into the words of the Ukrainian official
    .... Ukraine will lose everything at all.

    Although of course they themselves are in this docks
    1. Mitroha
      Mitroha April 30 2020 05: 44 New
      +8
      Dialogues between countries have become similar, in recent times, to dialogues in a cheap action movie about bandits.
      "Shown" for lost profits, lost profits, for inaction at the beginning of epidemics, for virtual "interference" in elections ... Blackmail. Hostages.
      Trade wars.
      All means are good, according to the current political elites, who are rolling towards complete anarchy and the rule of power, rather than laws.
      It’s getting worse and worse to work and create, and to look for ways to shake any preferences out of a neighbor is getting better. A bolt is placed on relations between countries, as if they would not have to live next to it.
      Maybe we don’t know something and Mother Earth already has FSE, and these figures are waiting for a direct space ferry to Alpha Centauri?
      1. Stas157
        Stas157 April 30 2020 06: 21 New
        +5
        You can be sure: in the current difficult crisis time Europeans would by no means invest such funds into a project in the implementation of which they would have at least the slightest doubt.

        That is yes. It is profitable for Europeans to receive oil for free. I wonder when all these pipes will pay off at current oil prices. But the low price level will last long.
        1. Avior
          Avior April 30 2020 07: 32 New
          10
          . It is profitable for Europeans to receive oil for free. I wonder when all these pipes will pay off at current oil prices.

          Actually, SP2 is a gas pipeline smile
          1. Stas157
            Stas157 April 30 2020 07: 36 New
            +2
            Well, gas falls in price, since it is tied to the price of oil. Therefore, the question is correct:
            Quote: Stas157
            I wonder when all these pipes will pay off at current oil prices.
            1. Avior
              Avior April 30 2020 10: 40 New
              +6
              if prices do not change much, then very soon
              if at all paid off
              but this is SP2
              And the Power of Siberia, it seems, will never pay off
              States bent the Chinese to buy gas from them.
              And this is still about coronovirus did not know
              1. Alexander mosin
                Alexander mosin April 30 2020 14: 56 New
                -4
                So with this Nordstream 2 there is another problem. Even if it is completed it will not be possible to fill more than 50%, in my opinion this has already been introduced. That is, the amount of transported gas will not increase, today we say the Nordstream 1 -100%, and tomorrow both pipes are 50% -50%. And the prices tied to oil, which will not go up for a long time, become a big problem. Oil consumption will generally fall, due to the transition to electric mobility in the Western countries and China, and moreover, in a more massive and shorter time than many would like. American motorists consume the most oil, more than all of China together with their industry, and they gradually, but massively and progressively switch from their V8 to electric cars, Plug in Hybrid. China is switching to electric cars even more because of the heavy pollution of megacities and the huge selection of Chinese, inexpensive electric cars. At the moment, work is underway on new, more powerful batteries, which will allow more than 1000 km to pass on a single charge, and full charge will be reduced by less than 30 minutes, and if today most private enthusiasts are switching to electric cars, then tomorrow, after the launch of new technologies, entire companies will replace your fleets of cars with diesel / gasoline to electric. China is currently working on this topic, which we would like in Russia. Oil and gas will not ensure the future development of Russia.
                1. Igoresha
                  Igoresha April 30 2020 17: 44 New
                  +1
                  Let me remind you that Yulia Vladimirovna Timoshenka was imprisoned for an unprofitable gas contract with the Russian Federation. And by whom - by the Party of Regions. That is, it turns out that someone (both singular and plural numbers) should receive three life sentences? bully
                2. sen
                  sen 1 May 2020 05: 34 New
                  +1
                  Even if it is completed it will not be possible to fill more than 50%, in my opinion this has already been introduced.

                  It is possible to split the gas pipeline in the territorial waters of Germany, since the third EU energy package concerns only them. And there will be 50% in each pipe.
            2. Pashhenko Nikolay
              Pashhenko Nikolay April 30 2020 15: 22 New
              +1
              The question is right. But throwing an almost finished pipe at the bottom of the sea does waste money. So it is necessary to finish building by any means.
          2. New Year day
            New Year day April 30 2020 12: 52 New
            +8
            Quote: Avior
            Actually, SP2 is a gas pipeline

            April 10, 2020.According to the auction on Wednesday at the British National Balancing Point (NBP), gas for delivery on Thursday cost $ 67,5 per thousand cubic meters. On the main site of Europe - the Dutch TTF - gas for delivery on Thursday costs $ 79,33 per thousand cubic meters. Due to lower prices and lower supplies for the first six months, revenue from contracts with them decreased by 12 percent, or 98 billion rubles. Gazprom has already abandoned plans to deliver more than 200 billion cubic meters to Europe, which was expected at the beginning of the year.
        2. 210ox
          210ox April 30 2020 08: 22 New
          12
          It's not even about when they will pay off. And when in the leadership of the "national heritage" will be professionals, and not literate confidants. They are ready to sign contracts, according to which I subsequently lose cases in courts.
          1. Malyuta
            Malyuta April 30 2020 09: 18 New
            14
            Quote: 210ox
            It’s not even about when it will pay off.

            I'm very sorry, comrade hi , but the point is in the payback of the project! Otherwise, there is simply no reason to build this gas pipeline, because our greatest strategist constantly claims the effectiveness of his managers and the marketability of our most market economy in the world. And now the question is, where did Gazprom profit from selling oil? The second question, why was SP-2 needed at all if SP-1 is 100% unfilled? Question three, why do the Germans declare more gas received than Gazprom sent?
            Well, so on the little things, why do Timchenko's offices exist as an intermediary in the sale of gas, and what are the profits of Rosneftegaz and where did it go, why not and why does the gas company constantly sit on subsidies from the state budget and become a loss-making company?
            1. dzvero
              dzvero April 30 2020 09: 45 New
              +4
              Gas is supplied under long-term contracts plus a take-or-pay formula. The gas supplier is more or less protected and can make calculations and forecasts of recoupment / profit.
              Office gaskets on the one hand are evil, but on the other - protection from antitrust laws. The buyer has a choice smile Same story with 50% pipe filling. EU condition that access to the pipe must be guaranteed access to other operators.
              And about "where is the money, Zin" - other people have to figure it out.
              1. Avior
                Avior April 30 2020 13: 03 New
                +3
                Gas is supplied under long-term contracts plus a take-or-pay formula

                does she act? something everyone is suing against it
                but with Ukraine, contract-download or pay
                1. dzvero
                  dzvero April 30 2020 14: 09 New
                  0
                  Where it is registered, it works until the court ruling. Yes, and such a decision can serve as a basis for reviewing other conditions or even terminating the contract.
                  Why it happened with Ukraine, I personally do not know smile .
                2. NKT
                  NKT April 30 2020 17: 39 New
                  0
                  This formula is valid, but for some reason only Gazprom is trying to dispute it.
            2. Golovan Jack
              Golovan Jack April 30 2020 09: 59 New
              -3
              Quote: Malyuta
              ... where ... why at all ... why ... so little things, why ... and why ...

              good laughing good

              And who is asking?

              The former owner of the company, who successfully fell in love with it a couple of years ago, and therefore angry at the "bloody redhead" so that he can’t eat? Eh what
              1. Terenin
                Terenin April 30 2020 18: 50 New
                +6
                Quote: Golovan Jack
                Quote: Malyuta
                ... where ... why at all ... why ... so little things, why ... and why ...

                good laughing good

                And who is asking?

                The former owner of the company, who successfully fell in love with it a couple of years ago, and therefore angry at the "bloody redhead" so that he can’t eat? Eh what

                Well, why laugh. It is not excluded that the former head of the company was found - former employees ... And, you can't shout to them threateningly, "I hate you!" Because they can "tenderly" ask, but for what? You, as an executive director, were responsible for the final result of the work and, moreover, paid all taxes? Then they will say, "Well, tell me, American (s)," why did the regional authorities conquer our enterprise, if we are "the goose that lays the golden eggs" for their budget? crying
          2. NKT
            NKT April 30 2020 17: 37 New
            +5
            The courts are losing foreign law firms that Gazprom hires. Or do you think that Miller and his comrades are involved in the process? And how can one win in courts that are politically biased?
            1. 210ox
              210ox April 30 2020 17: 41 New
              +2
              Any jamb of management can be attributed to engagement. So do you think Miller and Co. have nothing to do with it, even if they sign onerous contracts and hire worthless lawyers?
              1. NKT
                NKT April 30 2020 17: 56 New
                +2
                And how do you know that the contract is bonded? A court decision is one thing, and a contract is another. Based on the latest court decision, now any contract can be turned upside down and the “fines” will become the winner. What can Gazprom do in this case?

                Managers had to keep their mouths shut and not make promises right and left.

                PS Who is to blame, a favorite question in Russia-was, is and will be. wink
        3. Nastia makarova
          Nastia makarova April 30 2020 10: 17 New
          -3
          who said how long? as quarantines around the world run out of oil again will be 40-50
          1. atalef
            atalef April 30 2020 10: 20 New
            +2
            Quote: Nastia Makarova
            who said how long? as quarantines around the world run out of oil again will be 40-50

            and 4-50 is a lot?
            At this price, shale oil will again be profitable.
            1. Nastia makarova
              Nastia makarova April 30 2020 10: 23 New
              +1
              not much but ok average price
            2. Lelek
              Lelek April 30 2020 18: 06 New
              +3
              Quote: atalef
              At this price, shale oil will again be profitable.

              hi , Alexander.
              Shale oil is profitable only above $ 60 per barrel, and such a "prize" will have to wait in the current situation (IMHO) for a long time.
              1. Nastia makarova
                Nastia makarova 1 May 2020 06: 49 New
                0
                then for the slate and we will go 40
          2. Alexander mosin
            Alexander mosin April 30 2020 15: 07 New
            -1
            Quote: Nastia Makarova
            as quarantines around the world run out of oil again will be 40-50

            Is not a fact. Storage facilities and all tankers will soon be full and full and oil consumption will generally decline. Additionally, even if the coronavirus disappears, it will take a lot of time until the world economy picks up speed and returns to the figures of the end of 2019. By this time, electric cars will still press on oil prices, due to which consumption is falling. In my opinion, the era of oil comes to an end sooner than expected, the decline and importance of oil from the 2030s was expected, but it seems that this is happening now.
      2. Ilya-spb
        Ilya-spb April 30 2020 07: 29 New
        -3
        I don’t understand one thing ... what, Russia cannot just take and send these “friends” hard?

        What, one cannot simply say that threats to the North Stream will lead to sanctions from Russia, the nationalization of companies belonging to unfriendly countries on the territory of Russia?

        That any lawsuit against Russia will lead to peace enforcement?
        1. Gardamir
          Gardamir April 30 2020 07: 54 New
          +8
          What, you can’t just say
          It is impossible! Now the ideology of partnership reigns. If somewhere you can snatch a piece today, then on the drum what will happen tomorrow.
        2. Mordvin 3
          Mordvin 3 April 30 2020 07: 54 New
          +9
          Quote: Ilya-spb
          nationalization of companies belonging to unfriendly countries in Russia?

          It is impossible. Belching globalism.
          1. Ilya-spb
            Ilya-spb April 30 2020 08: 03 New
            +5
            It is necessary for our country ... to isolate itself from globalism.

            And globalist officials are quarantined. Without the right to correspond)))
            1. 210ox
              210ox April 30 2020 08: 48 New
              +3
              You see. Officials do not agree. Judging by the minus.
              1. novel66
                novel66 April 30 2020 11: 02 New
                +1
                and there’s a recipe with officials!
        3. Esaul
          Esaul April 30 2020 08: 51 New
          +5
          The fact is that in these "unfriendly countries" almost all of our elite, top bureaucrats, have real estate, accounts, children live and study. They will do anything to preserve this, even to betray the interests of their country (although which country is their own is a big question).
        4. Roman123567
          Roman123567 April 30 2020 09: 47 New
          +2
          ))))
          What are "sanctions from Russia" ??
          Let’s give us options on how we can annoy Europe / USA ..
          Well, who and how will we force peace for the fact that foreign ships refused to lay us a pipe .. I would also like to read ..))
        5. Malyuta
          Malyuta April 30 2020 09: 47 New
          +5
          Quote: Ilya-spb
          What, one cannot simply say that threats to the North Stream will lead to sanctions from Russia, the nationalization of companies belonging to unfriendly countries on the territory of Russia?

          Are you serious? What the hell are the sanctions if the Russian Federation itself is under sanctions.
          Do you even understand that Putinism has led the country to the fact that at least 2/3 of the economy are foreign companies?
          Now, as never before, all the failures in foreign and domestic politics are becoming apparent, the soap bubble has not yet burst, but it is tidying up every day.
      3. Civil
        Civil April 30 2020 14: 01 New
        +1
        Quote: Mitroha
        Dialogues between countries have become similar, in recent times, to dialogues in a cheap action movie about bandits.
        "Shown" for lost profits, lost profits, for inaction at the beginning of epidemics, for virtual "interference" in elections ... Blackmail. Hostages.
        Trade wars.
        All means are good, according to the current political elites, who are rolling towards complete anarchy and the rule of power, rather than laws.
        It’s getting worse and worse to work and create, and to look for ways to shake any preferences out of a neighbor is getting better. A bolt is placed on relations between countries, as if they would not have to live next to it.
        Maybe we don’t know something and Mother Earth already has FSE, and these figures are waiting for a direct space ferry to Alpha Centauri?

        Because we ruined our relationship with everyone.
    2. sergo
      sergo April 30 2020 09: 45 New
      +4
      Of course, we will complete it and continue to be a raw materials appendage of the West. Why do we need plants !? We’ll build a pipe and make a profit here and now. Only here, at best, the crumbs will get the people from this profit. Urapatrioty turn on the brain already, do not live one day.
      1. Vikxnumx
        Vikxnumx April 30 2020 14: 27 New
        0
        Only here, at best, the crumbs will get the people from this profit.

        Yes you what !!! How can you litter? Not a single baby will fall from steel !!! Guarantor of that!
    3. iouris
      iouris April 30 2020 12: 38 New
      -1
      Quote: Mitroha
      Of course we finish, in spite and in spite of.

      You don’t understand anything at all.
    4. To be or not to be
      To be or not to be April 30 2020 15: 13 New
      +1
      We remember the history of Russia has always defeated those. Who attacked it !!!
      .......................
      On April 30, 1945, at 5 a.m., troops of the 1st Belorussian Front launched an assault on the Reichstag. At 13 hours and 50 minutes, a Red Army unit burst into the building through breaches in the walls.
    5. Rzzz
      Rzzz April 30 2020 22: 43 New
      0
      No, you can’t make everyone lose. Especially in contracts, the penalties for this are probably spelled out harsh, and hi Stockholm arbitration
      It is necessary to reduce the pumping to the minimum so that it becomes unprofitable to operate the pipelines. Expenses in MNG are independent of volumes. To pump five percent of the current through Ukraine - it seems that we are observing the contract, and we pay for transit. It only turns out that this payment now covers a small part of the costs. Oops ...
      1. Avior
        Avior 1 May 2020 00: 22 New
        -1
        At least 65 for this year, for the next 40 you need to pump
        If you don’t pump, you still pay as for pumping
        Such a contract
        1. Rzzz
          Rzzz 1 May 2020 00: 27 New
          0
          Did not know. Yes, such a contract is inconvenient.
  3. Pessimist22
    Pessimist22 April 30 2020 05: 22 New
    +3
    This is agony, the economy of Ukraine, and so it was breathing in the dark, and the coronavirus accelerated the fall even more and no borrowing could save from an imminent collapse.
    1. Tycoon
      Tycoon April 30 2020 07: 34 New
      +2
      Well, yes, yes, but the dollar will also collapse soon ...
    2. 210ox
      210ox April 30 2020 08: 25 New
      +7
      And how long will this agony last? In my memory, for six years now everyone on the site has been looking forward to it. But everything does not come. And believe me, it won’t come. Until Russia can be squeezed, taken away, stolen.
    3. Roman123567
      Roman123567 April 30 2020 09: 48 New
      +3
      Bgggg .. And our economy is blooming and smelling straight ..))
  4. Dmitry from Voronezh
    Dmitry from Voronezh April 30 2020 05: 35 New
    +3
    SP-2 is an important project that needs to be brought to completion by all means. And Ukraine will get what it was striving for: if they wanted a break with Russia, they will get it in all respects, including gas transit. Everything is fair: Ukraine is an unreliable transit country and this has long been known both here and in Europe. In general, it is necessary to diversify the supply routes. There are large LNG projects, ours have finally mastered gas liquefaction technologies, there is the Far East "Zvezda" where you can build LNG tankers, so you can also follow this path.
    1. iouris
      iouris April 30 2020 12: 41 New
      -3
      Quote: Dmitry from Voronezh
      SP-2 important project is necessary to bring it to completion at all costs.

      I warmly support your proposal to use nuclear weapons to complete the construction.
    2. Lelek
      Lelek April 30 2020 18: 13 New
      +2
      Quote: Dmitry from Voronezh
      SP-2 important project is necessary to bring it to completion at all costs.

      hi
      Will be completed. "Chersky" will arrive in Kaliningrad on May 3. The question is how long will it take for additional equipment and scheduled repairs.
  5. Far B
    Far B April 30 2020 05: 36 New
    +1
    Nord Stream 2 is nearing completion
    Christmas trees-your-stick! This is where this place is nearing its successful completion ??? At the beginning of the year,
    putriots
    foaming at the mouth, they argued in the VO: why should we build a house - here we will drive "Chersky" - and we will finish building it! Four (!) Months have passed! Where is "Chersky"? And "Chersky turned back to Nakhodka. What's next, admirers of" His Excellency "?
    Ho hly? Yes, do not care about them. But they, oddly enough, squeeze their own out of Gazprom - and a new transit agreement, and three lard evergreen denies.
    No, nothing will change here, while in power these ... effective. They have no will, no conscience, no courage, no responsibility to anyone. And the most important thing in general at the Scientific Research Institute of Beekeeping (s) hid, and for more than a month now it has been broadcasting from there. How to push SP-2 or anything at all under such a policy? Preved, Pelevin. Preved, 90s.
    1. vostok68
      vostok68 April 30 2020 06: 01 New
      +4
      "Chersky turned back to Nakhodka" - tell me where the information comes from? You broadcast so confidently!
      1. Far B
        Far B April 30 2020 06: 33 New
        -3
        Yes, the trees are sticks! Googol doesn’t refuse anyone. Here is the news from the 26th:
        The Akademik Chersky vessel, owned by Gazprom, which Energy Minister Alexander Novak called the main contender for the completion of the Nord Stream 2 gas pipeline, has again changed course - its destination is now the Far East port of Nakhodka, where it can arrive on July 1, Vesselfinder monitoring site data. The vessel is currently located in the English Channel.
        The Akademik Chersky pipe-layer left Nakhodka on February 9. The ship reached the shores of Mozambique, circled Africa and arrived in the Canary Islands. Further, his route was laid to Egyptian Port Said, where it was supposed to arrive on April 30. However, the "Academician Chersky" never crossed the Strait of Gibraltar, but headed to the North Atlantic, heading for Aberdeen in the UK. The ship was expected to arrive there by May 1.

        Further more interesting:
        MOSCOW, April 29 - RIA Novosti. The Akademik Chersky pipelayer is approaching the Baltic Sea, according to Vesselfinder. The ship is now rounding Denmark. At the same time, Nakhodka is indicated as the destination.

        Avoid, so to speak. Now it will be faster for him to return to Nakhodka through SMEs - navigation will open. Or do you think that along the way he will lay in a partisan way 50 km of the first branch of SP-2, then another 70 km of the second branch - and only after that it will break through the NSR to Nakhodka?
        PySy: the port of destination in international shipping practice is indicated not simply because someone has his left leg combed, somehow.
        1. vostok68
          vostok68 April 30 2020 06: 53 New
          +4
          To Nakhodka across the Baltic Sea? He will not go along the NSR, there is no ice class! Read about specifying destination ports in the same Google that you are referring to, you will learn a lot about AIS!
        2. pv1005
          pv1005 April 30 2020 08: 13 New
          +1
          Quote: Far In
          Yes, the trees are sticks! Googol doesn’t refuse anyone. Here is the news from the 26th:
          The Akademik Chersky vessel, owned by Gazprom, which Energy Minister Alexander Novak called the main contender for the completion of the Nord Stream 2 gas pipeline, has again changed course - its destination is now the Far East port of Nakhodka, where it can arrive on July 1, Vesselfinder monitoring site data. The vessel is currently located in the English Channel.
          The Akademik Chersky pipe-layer left Nakhodka on February 9. The ship reached the shores of Mozambique, circled Africa and arrived in the Canary Islands. Further, his route was laid to Egyptian Port Said, where it was supposed to arrive on April 30. However, the "Academician Chersky" never crossed the Strait of Gibraltar, but headed to the North Atlantic, heading for Aberdeen in the UK. The ship was expected to arrive there by May 1.

          Further more interesting:
          MOSCOW, April 29 - RIA Novosti. The Akademik Chersky pipelayer is approaching the Baltic Sea, according to Vesselfinder. The ship is now rounding Denmark. At the same time, Nakhodka is indicated as the destination.

          Avoid, so to speak. Now it will be faster for him to return to Nakhodka through SMEs - navigation will open. Or do you think that along the way he will lay in a partisan way 50 km of the first branch of SP-2, then another 70 km of the second branch - and only after that it will break through the NSR to Nakhodka?
          PySy: the port of destination in international shipping practice is indicated not simply because someone has his left leg combed, somehow.

          Well, following your advice, the truth was not Google but MarineTraffic. Conclusions, where and why Chersky do yourself.

    2. Avior
      Avior April 30 2020 07: 14 New
      +4
      No, Chersky goes to the Baltic.
      It’s just that he always indicates for some reason the wrong destination.
      1. vostok68
        vostok68 April 30 2020 07: 33 New
        +5
        That's it! And the indication of destinations is so that the partners do not have time to take hostile actions! There, by the way, next to "Chersky" "Yaroslav the Wise" is walking, he does not indicate any ports of destination at all!
        1. Roman123567
          Roman123567 April 30 2020 09: 52 New
          +2
          indication of destinations, so that partners do not have time to take hostile actions!


          Well, yes .. no one knows who he’s going to ..))

          Someone will decide to deprive you of a wallet at the entrance in the evening .. and when you find out about this, you’ll go yourself along the street to the house and scream out loud that you are going to a suburban cottage .. And everyone got confused right away ..))
          1. vostok68
            vostok68 April 30 2020 10: 45 New
            +1
            Then please comment on all the leapfrog with destinations that "Akademik Chersky" has been demonstrating almost from the beginning of its trip? Do you think that the Captain and Navigator do not understand what they are doing?
            1. Roman123567
              Roman123567 April 30 2020 11: 41 New
              +4
              Then please comment on all that leapfrog

              I don’t know what is causing this leapfrog .. therefore, I don’t presume to comment ..

              Do you think that the Captain and the Navigator do not understand what they are doing?
              I commented on the phrase about "indicating destinations so that partners do not have time to take hostile actions"
        2. Aleksandr21
          Aleksandr21 April 30 2020 11: 23 New
          +4
          Quote: vostok68
          That's it! And the indication of destinations is so that the partners do not have time to take hostile actions! There, by the way, next to "Chersky" "Yaroslav the Wise" is walking, he does not indicate any ports of destination at all!


          And what hostile actions can they take? The ship goes to Kaliningrad to complete repairs and modernization, and then its path lies on Sakhalin. No sanctions can be applied to him, since there are no grounds. And escort is, for safety, all the same, such a ship is piece goods and it is necessary to protect it like the apple of an eye. But on SP-2 questions .... it is not known whether he will be involved at all in this project.
          1. vostok68
            vostok68 April 30 2020 11: 53 New
            0
            The first thing that comes to mind is to declare sanctions against insurance companies in which Akademik Chersky is insured, this takes time, which is not enough, thanks to the constant change of destination ports! These are of course my assumptions and even fantasies! I do not pretend to be a specialist in this case! We will watch how events unfold in the future, most interesting!
            1. Avior
              Avior April 30 2020 13: 08 New
              +2
              and where does the destination ports?
              1. vostok68
                vostok68 1 May 2020 02: 02 New
                0
                As far as I understand, the United States will apply penalties to all owners of ships and equipment used in the construction of SP-2, officially (in accordance with the indicated ports of destination), Akademik Chersky does not go to the place of laying the gas pipeline, and accordingly, the sanctions cannot be imposed and prevented they cannot move along the route without provoking a serious conflict!
    3. Cyril G ...
      Cyril G ... April 30 2020 09: 20 New
      +2
      He's in the English Channel judging by the latest inclusion of a ship monitoring system at sea
    4. Aleksandr21
      Aleksandr21 April 30 2020 11: 14 New
      +3
      Quote: Dalny V
      here we will drive the "Chersky" - and we will finish building it!


      Not a fact, by the way, it was officially announced that Academician Chersky was going to Kaliningrad to complete repairs and modernization, but then there were questions .... this ship should go to build Sakhalin-3 after conversion:

      MOSCOW, February 10. / TASS /. Gazprom has selected a contractor for the retrofitting of the Akademik Chersky pipe-laying vessel, which is planned to be involved in the development of the Kirinskoye gas condensate field of the Sakhalin-3 project, follows from the information on the government procurement website.


      and what side is the SP-2 big question. Maybe there will certainly be a political decision from the very top and it will be sent after modernization to complete the Nord Stream, but so far there is no official information, only assumptions and assumptions of experts.
  6. Valery Valery
    Valery Valery April 30 2020 05: 42 New
    0
    When will they choke on their hatred and anger ?!
    1. tihonmarine
      tihonmarine April 30 2020 07: 13 New
      +4
      Quote: Valery Valery
      When will they choke on their hatred and anger ?!

      With the acquisition of Western Ukraine by the Ukrainian SSR, anger and hatred appeared, now, when the youth born after 1991 has already entered the arena, it is already going off scale. Yesterday, not for the first and last time, to my joy for the fact that I write "Stalin did not need to liberate Europe", here and there they call me a stupid person who does not understand geopolitics, and even a Nazi, and the most beautiful nickname was "Kolya from Urengoy" ... Well, in connection with Ukraine, I would like to see an opinion on the question "Did Stalin need liberate western Ukraine ""
      1. Tycoon
        Tycoon April 30 2020 07: 33 New
        -4
        so that there wouldn’t be malice, it was necessary to conduct a different policy since imperial times .....
        1. tihonmarine
          tihonmarine April 30 2020 07: 45 New
          +1
          Quote: Tycoon

          so that there wouldn’t be anger, it’s necessary to carry out a policy differently since imperial times ..

          What anger, and what kind of politics, and to whom. It’s time to realize long ago that Western Ukraine for about 700 years has had nothing to do with Ukraine. Russia, Ukraine, Belarus were a triune people, unlike Austrian Ukraine. Sorry, at first I thought you were from the Sumerians.
          1. Tycoon
            Tycoon April 30 2020 07: 50 New
            -8
            yeah - the triune people - made fun)))) Russia is not loved not only in Western Ukraine, look at the history of relations between tsarist Russia and Ukraine, then the Bolsheviks and the Communists, and then Comrade Putin, and you will understand why Russia is so disliked in Ukraine ... ..
            1. tihonmarine
              tihonmarine April 30 2020 08: 35 New
              +6
              Quote: Tycoon
              yeah - the triune people - made laugh)))) Russia is not loved not only in Western Ukraine, look at the history of relations between tsarist Russia and Ukraine

              I told you Western Ukraine is the Austrian Empire, and Little Russia is a triune people. And who in the Russian Empire rotted the Little Russians? This is the king who gave them more land than the Great Russians and Belarusians, and what kind of land? And how much Great Russian territory the Tsars gave to Little Russia (yes, although the Bolsheviks gave many times more to Ukraine. They were given everything, but they screwed everything up.) And under the tsars the Little Russian peasant lived like "Christ in the bosom." Or can you name at least one speech or revolt in Little Russia against the Tsar's Grandfather? And there is no need to look at relations with Ukraine and Western Ukraine, I myself lived under the USSR and saw the relations of all the people of the USSR. And now Ukraine is getting what it deserves as Ukraine, not as the Ukrainian Soviet Socialist Republic. Although you Aids do not understand this.
              1. Tycoon
                Tycoon April 30 2020 08: 38 New
                -5
                of course not understand ..... where are we aids)))))
              2. atalef
                atalef April 30 2020 08: 55 New
                -5
                Quote: tihonmarine
                And how much Great Russian territory the Tsars gave to Little Russia

                What do you mean given 7
                how can you give it to yourself? belay
                Quote: tihonmarine
                (Yes, although the Bolsheviks gave many times more to Ukraine.

                What do you mean they gave /?

                nobody gave anything back.
                Before entering the USSR, the borders of Ukraine were almost identical to today's. (Without Crimea 0
                the only thing the Bolsheviks gave Ukraine --- so it gave its western parts to the Germans in the Brest peace.
                1. tihonmarine
                  tihonmarine April 30 2020 09: 13 New
                  +3
                  Quote: atalef
                  What do you mean given 7
                  how can you give it to yourself?

                  And they probably thought as you did, gave it to yourself, but it turned out to be someone else's "Western Uncle". I think you have already read your president's decree on the sale of Ukrainian land, and once this land was ours.
                  1. atalef
                    atalef April 30 2020 09: 37 New
                    -3
                    Quote: tihonmarine
                    And they probably thought as you did, gave it to themselves, but it turned out to be someone else's "Western Uncle"

                    again got off the topic.
                    so to whom the kings gave.
                    You can give only to someone.
                    so to whom?
                    Quote: tihonmarine
                    I think you already read the decree your President on the sale of Ukrainian land

                    Rivlin sells Ukrainian land?
                    did not know. belay
                    Quote: tihonmarine
                    , and when this land was ours.

                    ours is whose 7
                    yours. your parents, your grandfathers, etc. - she never was.
                    Ano parezhda than for complaining about the land in Ukraine - what about the sale of land in Russia say 7
                    Can I sell?
                    1. tihonmarine
                      tihonmarine April 30 2020 11: 59 New
                      -1
                      Quote: atalef
                      Ano parezhda than for complaining about the land in Ukraine - what about the sale of land in Russia say 7
                      Can I sell?
                      Article 15 of the Land Code of the Russian Federation regulates the right to acquire
                      Foreign citizens of the following land categories in Russia:
                      - plots for individual housing construction;
                      - land area for farming;
                      - plots with a private residential building for further residence in
                      him on a temporary and permanent basis.
                      And do not confuse "God's gift with eggs (in lard)"
                      1. Avior
                        Avior April 30 2020 13: 11 New
                        +1
                        the fact is that in Ukraine, too, foreigners cannot buy agricultural land
                      2. tihonmarine
                        tihonmarine April 30 2020 14: 12 New
                        0
                        Quote: Avior

                        the fact is that in Ukraine, too, foreigners cannot buy agricultural land

                        Well, no one doubts that. Officially, foreigners and foreign companies will not be able to acquire Ukrainian land directly. However, there is a scheme by which this can be done: a Ukrainian secured by land can take a loan, and if he is insolvent, the asset will become the property of the bank. He, in turn, already has the right to sell the land at auction, foreign companies can participate in tenders.
                        The law was one of the key requirements of the International Monetary Fund. Its approval will allow Kiev to continue cooperation with the organization and receive a new loan tranche of $ 10 billion.
                        You don’t need to sell land to foreigners, and you don’t see dollars like your own ears, and Pedro Roroshenko threw Zele M a country without money, and the land is the last soldier in the ranks.
                      3. Avior
                        Avior April 30 2020 15: 52 New
                        0
                        You do not have the correct information
                        Foreigners cannot be owners of agricultural land
                        That is, they cannot buy it by any procedure, no one will register ownership of them
                        Bank, What is foreign, what Ukrainian, if land passes to them, they must sell it at an open auction for 2 years
                        https://finance.ua/saving/zakon-o-zemle-chto-nuzho-znat#headline_18
                      4. Alexander mosin
                        Alexander mosin April 30 2020 16: 42 New
                        -1
                        I’m not sure what’s worse, selling Ukrainian lands to Western investors for $, or giving Russian lands to the Chinese. The result of the activities of the Chinese in the Far East and in Siberia is already tangible, in the negative direction, and some of them were presented as a whole by nature-rich places for which our ancestors shed blood. In my opinion it is better to see what is happening under the nose, and let the Ukrainians understand themselves.
                2. tihonmarine
                  tihonmarine 1 May 2020 06: 01 New
                  +1
                  Quote: atalef
                  ours is whose 7

                  Belated, but I will answer. Ours, but not yours.
            2. Cyril G ...
              Cyril G ... April 30 2020 09: 23 New
              +1
              At the time of the Brest peace, Ukraine had already gained independence and the Germans agreed with it separately
              1. atalef
                atalef April 30 2020 10: 23 New
                -2
                Quote: Cyril G ...
                At the time of the Brest peace, Ukraine had already gained independence and the Germans agreed with it separately

                Ok - this does not change the essence (although if it is a fact - it’s worth checking. Who led the Ukrainian delegation 0
                So that’s the highlight.
                Before entering the USSR, Ukraine was an independent state within exactly the same borders as it is today (with the exception of Crimea 0 - and this is the question - who gave it to whom and from what?
                1. Cyril G ...
                  Cyril G ... April 30 2020 10: 32 New
                  +3
                  There were just no borders there. The UPR, proclaimed on January 9, 1918, declared its lands, including the Crimea and the Kuban. The West of the UPR did not recognize such a dearly beloved by Ukrainians. Moscow, in principle, did not like it. For the concept of what Ukraine is, see the Pereyaslav Treaty of 1654.
                2. tihonmarine
                  tihonmarine April 30 2020 12: 11 New
                  +1
                  Quote: atalef
                  Before entering the USSR, Ukraine was an independent state within exactly the same borders as it is today (with the exception of Crimea 0 - and this is the question - who gave it to whom and from what?

                  It happens in your way, but it happens in yours and not yours, if you look like this.
                  In the 1516th millennium BC in place of modern Israel and Palestine, Canaan is formed, which means "country of purple." In historical literature it is also found under the name "Promised Land." Throughout history, the Palestinian lands were seized by the Romans, European crusaders, and from 1917 to 1948 were under the rule of the Ottoman Empire. After World War I, Palestine was given a mandate for sovereign rule, but in 137, Israel captured the country. Since then, the people of Palestine have been fighting to create their own state. Now it is recognized as a state by XNUMX countries, but it cannot be a member of the UN, as it is not recognized by the United States, Great Britain and France.
              2. tihonmarine
                tihonmarine April 30 2020 12: 07 New
                +1
                Quote: Cyril G ...
                At the time of the Brest peace, Ukraine had already gained independence and the Germans agreed with it separately

                It turns out that the Germans can take advantage of these treaties.
                1. Avior
                  Avior April 30 2020 13: 13 New
                  +4
                  can not
                  they are canceled by the Versailles agreements, Russia is recognized as the winner in them with the right to receive indemnities from Germany
              3. Avior
                Avior April 30 2020 13: 12 New
                +2
                but they made peace with the Bolsheviks
          2. Tycoon
            Tycoon April 30 2020 16: 00 New
            -1
            they gave away the lands on which the Ukrainians lived and in exchange destroyed the Ukrainian intelligentsia, transferred them to Moscow by the force of the Kiev patriarch, sent thousands of Ukrainians to Siberia and Solovki, starved thousands of people, wiped off the Ukrainian language, tried to destroy the Ukrainian identity and so on and so forth. ....

            And when it was under the tsar, the Ukrainian people lived happily ???? But there were no riots - because the entire elite was destroyed, like the tsar and the Bolsheviks. The actions were the same .....


            "Nice" exchange turned out .......
          3. Maas
            Maas April 30 2020 18: 23 New
            -2
            I did not know that the Russian tsars, it turns out, gave Ukraine land.
            Zashkvar is already crossing all sides. Ignorance rolls over just))
          4. Moon
            Moon April 30 2020 22: 53 New
            -1
            Quote: tihonmarine
            Or maybe you’ll call at least one speech or a riot in Little Russia against the Grandfather of the king

            there are even such ones on Wikis.
            against the Empress fit?
            The Turbaev rebellion is one of the largest anti-serfdom peasant uprisings in Left-Bank Ukraine in the second half of the 1789th century. It lasted from 1793 to XNUMX, the center of the uprising was the village of Turbai of the Gradizhsky district [uk] of the Yekaterinoslav governorate of the Russian Empire (now Globinsky district of the Poltava region of Ukraine). The immediate cause of the uprising was the attempt of the peasants to achieve liberation from serfdom.
            In June 1793, an infantry battalion of the Bug Jaeger Regiment and 200 Cossacks were brought into the village, armed with even two cannons. Government troops carried out mass arrests of peasants. The trial of the rebels lasted from 11 (July 22), 1793 to January 31 (February 11), 1794. The most active participants were beaten with lashes, their nostrils were pulled out, the mark “thief” was made on the cheeks and forehead and sent to lifelong forced labor in Tobolsk, others were punished with lashes. 15 peasants died after bullying.
            Some of the Turbayevites were evicted in the steppes of the Kherson and Tauride provinces. The authorities even changed the name of the village of Turbay, renaming it Sorrowful (they returned to the former name only in 1919).
            Over 50 performances in the second half of the 18th century.
            During the Pugachev-performance of Garkush.
            The uprising in Klischintsy.
            Incidentally, the peasant war with oppression and serfdom on Ukrainian lands is the same as in central Russia.
            It was easier only on newly developed lands. There was no reproach there.
            And this allowed to give a sharp leap to the development of trade and the entire south.
            In Russia, serfdom ruined the country. And so the climate slowed down the country so also serfdom ruined the transition to capitalism.
  • LeonidL
    LeonidL April 30 2020 05: 42 New
    +1
    The easiest way is to raise the flag of an auxiliary vessel of the Russian Navy on the "Chersky" and let it go with a convoy of a pair of corvettes. Nobody dares to touch.
    1. nikvic46
      nikvic46 April 30 2020 06: 10 New
      +1
      Leonid: "Chersky" is not walking slowly because someone is threatening him. There is simply no need for him to rush to a country where many structures do not work.
      1. LeonidL
        LeonidL April 30 2020 19: 07 New
        0
        Dear Nikolay, this is your personal opinion.
    2. tihonmarine
      tihonmarine April 30 2020 07: 52 New
      -2
      Quote: LeonidL
      The easiest way is to raise the flag of an auxiliary vessel of the Russian Navy on the "Chersky" and let it go with a convoy of a pair of corvettes.

      Yes, it is not so easy to do, it can even be simply impossible.
    3. tihonmarine
      tihonmarine April 30 2020 14: 23 New
      -1
      Quote: LeonidL

      The easiest way is to raise the flag of an auxiliary vessel of the Russian Navy on the "Chersky" and let it go with a convoy of a pair of corvettes.

      Well then, advise how to do it.
  • nikvic46
    nikvic46 April 30 2020 06: 16 New
    +5
    Nord Stream-2 will be completed. You just need to be patient while Germany comes to its senses from the pandemic. As for Ukraine, it has always emphasized its own. exorbitant significance. She has long considered herself the center of the universe.
    1. tihonmarine
      tihonmarine April 30 2020 09: 17 New
      -1
      Quote: nikvic46
      As for Ukraine, she always emphasized her. exorbitant significance.

      There is something in this, although I still have not understood "what is Ukraine".
      1. LeonidL
        LeonidL April 30 2020 19: 11 New
        +1
        Dear Vlad! You ask "what is Ukraine"? We answer - "The territory of the universal Absurd" which is trying to build a modern European state on the ideology and state-forming basic principles of the shtetl sages of the OUN of the 20-30s of the last century. Moreover, these two dogmas fundamentally contradicting each other are stubbornly hammered into the heads of the young generation. Complete Absurdistan!
        1. tihonmarine
          tihonmarine April 30 2020 19: 41 New
          0
          Quote: LeonidL
          We answer - "The territory of the universal Absurd"

          Thanks, I understood, I also assumed something like that. I really liked the way in the film about Kamo, the anarchist said "Everyone will be free, and free horses and people will walk on the steppe."
          1. LeonidL
            LeonidL April 30 2020 19: 52 New
            +1
            Vlad! Well Absurdistan to free horses and people like to the moon on foot! Rather, a country of joy-jumping zombies bitten by Galicians.
            1. tihonmarine
              tihonmarine 1 May 2020 05: 59 New
              +1
              Quote: LeonidL
              Rather, a country of joy-jumping zombies bitten by Galicians

              The horses will be free, but the Sumerians are only free laborers, it's like a free swinging pendulum.
  • The leader of the Redskins
    The leader of the Redskins April 30 2020 07: 07 New
    +2
    some countries find for themselves a completely different source of global problems
    This is exactly about our country and SP2 is written!
    1. Avior
      Avior April 30 2020 07: 15 New
      +4
      The power of Siberia is still with uncertain prospects
      1. tihonmarine
        tihonmarine April 30 2020 07: 56 New
        -1
        Quote: Avior
        The power of Siberia is still with uncertain prospects

        Earlier on TV advertisements every hour about "Power of Siberia", and now have not seen for a long time.
        1. Avior
          Avior April 30 2020 08: 29 New
          +2
          Recently, I saw somewhere that on the so-called base of the builder of the Power of Siberia - these are several villages - almost riots - there is a massive coronovirus disease, while shift workers, someone brought in, urgently require quarantine
          https://www.google.com/amp/s/ria.ru/amp/20200428/1570690389.html
          On the basis of "Gazprom" for the "Power of Siberia" staged a riot

          On VO this news did not notice for some reason or did I miss?
    2. kot28.ru
      kot28.ru April 30 2020 10: 19 New
      -4
      About yours, of course, about your Ukraine
  • 30143
    30143 April 30 2020 07: 14 New
    -1
    Take it easy. Have you built coastal infrastructure already?
    Here, all the beneficiaries flew into huge money. And all this Kovid19 was needed to reduce gas consumption and bring down the price ... Well, and the Russian Federation to indicate its place.
    1. tihonmarine
      tihonmarine April 30 2020 07: 57 New
      -1
      Quote: 30143
      Well, and the Russian Federation indicate its place.

      Rather, put in one place.
    2. atalef
      atalef April 30 2020 08: 56 New
      +1
      Quote: 30143
      And all this Kovid19 was needed to reduce gas consumption and bring down the price ... Well, and the Russian Federation to indicate its place.

      Chinese = - they are.
  • Avior
    Avior April 30 2020 07: 30 New
    13
    local energy company PGNiG, which allegedly won a case against the Russian RAO Gazprom in the Stockholm arbitration

    What is the presentation style? So won or not the case?
    If she won, she really can seize SP2 Shares; there has already been a precedent.
    By itself, this SP2 cannot stop, but complicate it, yes. Then the Poles will have to return money from 2014.
    If not, then it can’t. The author can clearly write this?

    And for some reason, the author kept silent about another problem - the Americans threatened with sanctions to those who were planning to buy gas from SP2 in Europe.
    And judging by past sanctions, the threat is far from empty.
    There is a third problem that we wrote about in VO.
    The consumption of Russian gas in Europe fell sharply, and the agreement with Ukraine was signed so that you need to pay, even if there is no gas. Will they complete SP2 further? It will be empty or if it is filled, Ukraine will still have to pay without pumping anything through it. This is a problem for the next 5 years.
    There is a third problem.
    For a long time, the Germans promised that even if SP2 goes into operation, some of the transit through Ukraine will still remain.
    And if gas demand remains at the current level, the situation will arise again that you have to pay money without pumping anything?
    1. tihonmarine
      tihonmarine April 30 2020 08: 00 New
      -1
      Quote: Avior
      The consumption of Russian gas in Europe fell sharply, and the agreement with Ukraine was signed so that you need to pay, even if there is no gas. Will they complete SP2 further?

      I'm sorry, what ? Found on your Tohas adventure.
    2. Kronos
      Kronos April 30 2020 10: 35 New
      +1
      The author cannot recognize this.
  • Tycoon
    Tycoon April 30 2020 07: 31 New
    0
    Of course Europe needs a joint venture - after all, Europe does not invest in it and the Russian Federation does everything for its own and borrowed ones ...
    But in fact, Europe does not care whether it exists or not ..... If it will be built - well, it will not be built - well, it will be ... and 87,5 million credit funds - the author's "brilliant" conclusion - just brilliant
    1. tihonmarine
      tihonmarine April 30 2020 08: 02 New
      -1
      Quote: Tycoon
      Of course, Europe needs a joint venture - after all, Europe does not invest in it and the Russian Federation does everything for its own and borrowed ..

      That's right, they wanted everything for themselves. And it was necessary, as the criminals do, to tie everyone up with money, then there would be no harnesses or sanctions, because everyone defended their "pennies".
    2. Cyril G ...
      Cyril G ... April 30 2020 10: 36 New
      +1
      this is not so - “In 2017, about € 2 billion was invested in Nord Stream-3. The money was distributed in equal shares between Western investors and Gazprom,” Korkoran said.
      1. Tycoon
        Tycoon April 30 2020 11: 10 New
        +1
        it is private money, and Europe did not invest state funds there - therefore, it will not lose anything if the joint venture is not completed and it is not a fact that it will win if it is completed.
        1. Cyril G ...
          Cyril G ... April 30 2020 11: 16 New
          0
          You are confused in terms. States are not investors there. Those who invested, these people represent and rule the old Europe. And just do not push them. There are EU structures that lie tightly under the Americans.
          The EU is not a monolith at all.
  • Chingachguk
    Chingachguk April 30 2020 08: 00 New
    0
    Those remaining unfinished km. should have been completed at the end of last year. And they were also sure that they would finish building .....
  • thinker
    thinker April 30 2020 08: 01 New
    +2
    Quote: Dalny V
    Further more interesting:

    And see for yourself what problems? May 3 Kaliningrad!
  • Andrey Krasnoyarsky
    Andrey Krasnoyarsky April 30 2020 08: 05 New
    +1
    Ukraine, Poland and other "friends" are just following orders from Washington. The Americans have this gas pipeline a bone in their throats, since their liquefied gas will be useless in Europe because of it.
    1. Avior
      Avior April 30 2020 08: 24 New
      +2
      Yeah, to the Americans
      But for Ukraine itself, it means that it is unprofitable that Gazprom will pump through the Ukrainian pipe and pay to Ukraine, and not through SP2?
  • fa2998
    fa2998 April 30 2020 08: 18 New
    +1
    Quote: Stas157
    Well, gas falls in price, since it is tied to the price of oil. Therefore, the question is correct:
    Quote: Stas157
    I wonder when all these pipes will pay off at current oil prices.

    And we have so-profit-to-Gazprom, costs-to the state. Soon the "faces" of Gazprom managers will not fit on the TV.
    RS.I am firmly convinced that if gas and oil prices fall, they will write out billions of dollars in premiums this year. hi
    1. Vikxnumx
      Vikxnumx April 30 2020 14: 39 New
      0
      Soon, the "faces" of Gazprom managers will not fit on the TV.

      TV manufacturers are constantly increasing the diagonal of production. So here is why!
  • cniza
    cniza April 30 2020 08: 41 New
    +2
    Over the most important domestic energy project, the Nord Stream-2 gas pipeline, the construction of which has recently turned into a real epic, clouds are gathering again.


    And when was it different?
  • Ros 56
    Ros 56 April 30 2020 09: 14 New
    -2
    You just need to declare all the actions of any persons and states against the Russian economy as a threat to our country's national security and react accordingly. Let them think that they will receive a response. Enough to substitute cheeks.
    1. Alexander mosin
      Alexander mosin April 30 2020 16: 54 New
      -1
      Quote: Ros 56
      You just need to declare all actions of any persons and states against the Russian economy as a threat to national security

      And to whom then to sell gas?
      1. Ros 56
        Ros 56 April 30 2020 17: 01 New
        +1
        Everyone will need gas, this time. And I do not propose declaring war, this is the second.
  • Roman123567
    Roman123567 April 30 2020 09: 31 New
    0
    It is true, what methods and methods the “non-fallow” intends to achieve the disruption of construction, Pan Makogon did not specify.
    Well, so far, after all, they somehow achieve .. the rest is trifles ..

    No wonder subsequently in the State Duma of Russia his demarche was called a “hysteria”, the essence of which, incidentally, primarily contrary to the interests of European consumers of Russian "blue fuel".


    But what then are the Europeans in no hurry to complete this pipe ??
    So, we blame some Macagon for hysterics .. and those who should first of all worry about this, in our opinion .. we are silent about them ..
  • Roman123567
    Roman123567 April 30 2020 09: 35 New
    +5
    Nord Stream 2 is nearing completion.


    Everything is fine in this phrase ..))
    From "reality" and "nearing" to "completion" and, most importantly, "successful" ..

    The author is just a megatroll ..))


    If not for US sanctions

    If it were not for the sanctions imposed by the United States, then Nord Stream-2 would be nearing its successful completion.
    But in reality, everything is just a little different ..))
  • Roman123567
    Roman123567 April 30 2020 09: 39 New
    +2
    If not entered by the USA sanctions against companies owning pipe-laying vesselsthis would most likely have already been done.


    Russian experts explain unpredictable maneuvers and course changes of this ship quite simply: moving in this way, it tries to avoid the sanctions of US regulatorsthat complicate their passage through the straits.



    I didn’t understand .. why did the pipe-laying vessels not report to SP2 then, moving in "unpredictable maneuvers" ??
    After all, as I read from the article - if you constantly change course, then US sanctions are off track ..
    If for the passage of the straits it is enough just to knock the sanctions off the heat trail .. then the pipes could also be built .. since there is only "only" 50 km left ..))
  • Roman123567
    Roman123567 April 30 2020 09: 44 New
    +3
    the press service of the pipeline construction operator, Nord Stream 2 AG, said that have absolutely no idea any litigation that could be related to its assets, and therefore affect the timing of the project.


    Does the highlighted say something ??

    If at my work the director asks how things are progressing on the contract / supply of goods, are there any threats, and what are the degrees of risk, and I will answer that "they have absolutely no idea" .. Hmm ..
  • Undecim
    Undecim April 30 2020 12: 37 New
    +4
    Quote: Ilya-spb
    I don’t understand one thing ... what, Russia cannot just take and send these “friends” hard?

    What, one cannot simply say that threats to the North Stream will lead to sanctions from Russia, the nationalization of companies belonging to unfriendly countries on the territory of Russia?

    That any lawsuit against Russia will lead to peace enforcement?

    Enchanting nonsense! Where are the generators of such texts prepared?
  • Normal ok
    Normal ok April 30 2020 12: 52 New
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    "Nord Stream-2" will be completed, despite all the attempts of ill-wishers.

    I know? Will the city be? I know? Garden bloom? When SUCH PEOPLE are in the Russian country!
    1. iouris
      iouris April 30 2020 13: 39 New
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      Quote: Normal ok
      When SUCH PEOPLE

      Americans say: "Victory has many fathers, defeat has one orphan."
      The Russians managed not to designate ONE orphan.
  • Kostadinov
    Kostadinov April 30 2020 15: 17 New
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    If you do not accompany Chersky with US warships, he will be captured. Even better announce that the Chersky warship and raised the naval flag on it.
    But even if the United States misses the ship and the gas pipeline is completed, they will impose sanctions on gas consumers from this gas pipeline.
    I expect the same for the gas pipeline through Bulgaria. When it is finished, the United States will impose sanctions on consumers of its gas.
    1. Alexander mosin
      Alexander mosin April 30 2020 17: 10 New
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      Quote: Kostadinov
      But even if the United States misses the ship and the gas pipeline is completed, they will impose sanctions on gas consumers from this gas pipeline.

      This is already done. Even if CB2 is completed, then it will be impossible to drive more gas through it than now SP1 and Ukrainian-Polish pipes. That is, it may be a useful pipe in the future, but in the coming years it will not pay off. And here also the prices for energy resources dipped for a long time.
  • Karaul73
    Karaul73 April 30 2020 16: 46 New
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    Quote: Mitroha
    Dialogues between countries have become similar, in recent times, to dialogues in a cheap action movie about bandits.
    "Shown" for lost profits, lost profits, for inaction at the beginning of epidemics, for virtual "interference" in elections ... Blackmail. Hostages.
    Trade wars.
    All means are good, according to the current political elites, who are rolling towards complete anarchy and the rule of power, rather than laws.
    It’s getting worse and worse to work and create, and to look for ways to shake any preferences out of a neighbor is getting better. A bolt is placed on relations between countries, as if they would not have to live next to it.
    Maybe we don’t know something and Mother Earth already has FSE, and these figures are waiting for a direct space ferry to Alpha Centauri?

    Tell Belarus and its president about this. He will tell you at what prices he is now forced to buy gas from Russia. This is me about friendship between countries.
  • Pashhenko Nikolay
    Pashhenko Nikolay April 30 2020 16: 59 New
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    http://c2n.me/47iMH5F .Черский проходит через датский пролив и спекулировать по поводу его маршрута нашей прессе пора уже завязывать.
    1. iouris
      iouris April 30 2020 22: 51 New
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      Help.
      Strait of Denmark or Strait of Greenland - Strait between the islands of Greenland and Iceland. Connects the Greenland Sea with the Irminger Sea - an integral part of the Atlantic Ocean.
      And these people forbid us ....
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  • Renata
    Renata 4 May 2020 16: 00 New
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    Russia, yes you send them all to all sorts of letters !!! E Do not listen to all rubbish and do not bow !!!