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The preliminary deadlines for the delivery of the Viktor Chernomyrdin icebreaker became known

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The preliminary deadlines for the delivery of the Viktor Chernomyrdin icebreaker became known

The world's most powerful diesel-electric icebreaker Viktor Chernomyrdin will probably be commissioned by September this year. As reported "Businessman" citing own sources, the issue of additional financing and a shift in the deadlines for the delivery of the vessel has finally been resolved.


According to the publication, the Ministry of Transport and the Ministry of Industry and Trade have resolved all disagreements about the increase in the cost of building the Viktor Chernomyrdin icebreaker. The ministries will allocate 1 billion rubles for the project, and another 1,5 billion for the icebreaker will be allocated by USC.

The fact that the cost of building an icebreaker, originally announced at 8 billion rubles, increased to 11 billion, it became known back in 2017. The reason for this was the exchange rate difference, as well as repeatedly introduced changes to the project, however, the icebreaker customer Rosmorport did not agree with the increase in costs. Now it is reported that all expenses have been agreed.

According to the source of the publication, the icebreaker, at best, will be delivered to the customer by September, because the preparation of the necessary documents will take a very long time.

At the end of December last year, it was reported that the Viktor Chernomyrdin icebreaker was technically ready, the crew was formed, the ship passed all the necessary mooring and sea trials, however, the transfer to the customer was postponed again due to inconsistency of financial and legal issues with the customer.

The icebreaker of project 22600 was built by order of the FSUE "Rosmorport" according to the contract signed with USC in December 2011. The icebreaker was laid down at Baltic Shipyard-Shipbuilding LLC on October 10, 2012. According to the plans of shipbuilders, the icebreaker should be commissioned in 2015, but in 2013 the construction was stopped due to gross errors during the development of the design documentation for the vessel, as a result of which the design overweight on the mass of the icebreaker was about 2,5 thousand tons.

The construction of the icebreaker for the redesigned project was resumed at BSZ only in the second half of 2016, and in September 2017, the icebreaker Viktor Chernomyrdin of the 22600 project (LC-25) was transferred for completion afloat from Baltiysky Zavodostroenie LLC to the opposite shore Neva on the JSC "Admiralty Shipyards". The reason for this was the workload of the BSZ on the construction of the 22220 project icebreakers (LK-60Я).

However, the misfortunes did not end there: in November 2018, a fire occurred on the vessel under construction, as a result of which part of the icebreaker equipment was damaged. The consequence of the fire was another shift in the delivery of the icebreaker to the right due to damage to imported equipment, which was being replaced in Korea and Europe.



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  1. Thrall
    Thrall April 29 2020 13: 05 New
    15
    Well, we wanted the best, but it turned out, as alwayssmile
    1. Vasyan1971
      Vasyan1971 April 29 2020 13: 21 New
      +3
      Quote: Thrall
      Well, we wanted the best, but it turned out, as alwayssmile

      In this case - God forbid!
      1. Dreamboat
        Dreamboat April 29 2020 16: 06 New
        -1
        Началось "скакние". Не без шероховатостей, но корабль готов и будет передан заказчику.
        Причем самый мощный дизель-электрик в мире! Даже "Гегемоны" нервно курят легализованную травку, про "небратьев" и говорить нечего.
        1. Olgovich
          Olgovich April 29 2020 19: 58 New
          +1
          Quote: Dreamboat
          And the most powerful diesel electric in the world!

          Excellent!

          Несколько смущает название "Черномырдин": "как ты лодку назовешь, так она и поплывет"(с) what
  2. Pvi1206
    Pvi1206 April 29 2020 13: 07 New
    +3
    Виктор Черномырдин: "хотели как лучше - получилось как всегда"...
    1. yustas
      yustas April 29 2020 14: 33 New
      +5
      How did it happen? This has never happened and here again ...)
      1. Olgovich
        Olgovich April 29 2020 20: 03 New
        +1
        Quote: yustas
        How did it happen? This has never happened, and here again ...

        Потому, что :"
        Здесь вам не тут!"
        for.
        "Весь мир сейчас идёт наоборот.
        yes
        А
        "Вы думаете, нам далеко легко? Нет! ..-
        . There is still time to save face.


        " В харизме надо родиться" (с) good
    2. Uncle lee
      Uncle lee April 29 2020 14: 40 New
      +6
      What to say about Chernomyrdin and about me?
      V.S. Chernomyrdin.
  3. Piramidon
    Piramidon April 29 2020 13: 09 New
    12
    дизель-электрический ледокол "Виктор Черномырдин"

    "Как вы яхту назовёте..."
    1. Podvodnik
      Podvodnik April 29 2020 15: 17 New
      +5
      "Как вы яхту назовёте..."


      We can read, pronounce. Not the first time.

      Интересна транскрипция на "аглицком" и очень хотелось бы посмотреть на мимику ответственного импортного лица, лоцмана или какого портового начальника "ихнинского" при попытке произнести это вслух на сеансе связи. Они языки сломают явно. Виктор Степанович всегда на высоте! Даже в виде ледокола, тем более такого современного. lol
      1. Sky strike fighter
        Sky strike fighter April 29 2020 15: 45 New
        -3
        Video of the MAPL Suffren going to sea at the link below.
        The new French nuclear submarine Suffren first sailed, said French Minister of Defense Florence Parley.

        https://m.vz.ru/news/2020/4/29/1036969.html
      2. Rzzz
        Rzzz April 30 2020 23: 19 New
        +1
        Quote: Podvodnik
        очень хотелось бы посмотреть на мимику ответственного импортного лица, лоцмана или какого портового начальника "ихнинского" при попытке произнести это вслух на сеансе связи.

        Ну, в СССР был танкер "Пятидесителетие советской Грузии". belay belay belay It’s more difficult to say anything. Handled the same ..
        In general, he will work more in his native waters. There are no problems with pronunciation.
  4. iouris
    iouris April 29 2020 13: 09 New
    -5
    Когда будет запущен "Северный Поток-2"?
    1. Thrall
      Thrall April 29 2020 13: 14 New
      +2
      Quote: iouris
      Когда будет запущен "Северный Поток-2"?

      On time
      1. iouris
        iouris April 29 2020 13: 25 New
        -1
        The deadline has already passed.
        1. Gennady Fomkin
          Gennady Fomkin April 29 2020 14: 23 New
          0
          Are you in a hurry somewhere? laughing
        2. Nastia makarova
          Nastia makarova April 30 2020 07: 27 New
          0
          the deadline is simply rescheduled
    2. Sidor Amenpodestovich
      Sidor Amenpodestovich April 29 2020 14: 00 New
      +8
      Когда будет запущен "Северный Поток-2"?

      When it is ready. Neither earlier nor later.
      What a question, that’s the answer.
      1. iouris
        iouris April 29 2020 23: 45 New
        +1
        "...в эту пору чудесную жить не придётся ни мне, ни тебе..."
  5. Alexga
    Alexga April 29 2020 13: 10 New
    +4
    Of course, I am not a subtle connoisseur of the activities of the former ambassador to Ukraine, but somehow it’s dumb to become what you call a ship, so it will sail. Sorry, but the saying goes. Although, I understand that an icebreaker is a ship that runs.
  6. Million
    Million April 29 2020 13: 16 New
    16
    And it’s funny and sad ... For what sins did the icebreaker call so ???
    1. yustas
      yustas April 29 2020 14: 34 New
      +5
      And do not say, he has not yet come out, and he is already swimming ....
  7. Crowe
    Crowe April 29 2020 13: 19 New
    13
    The fact that the cost of building an icebreaker, originally announced at 8 billion rubles, increased to 11 billion, it became known back in 2017.

    "Но мы подсчитаем, и тогда все узнают. И мы в первую очередь. А если кто слишком умный, пусть сам считает, а мы потом проверим. И доложим, куда попало."
    V.S. Chernomyrdin, Head of Government, Complete Works, Volume XIII.
    Now they don’t steal so cute. They steal impudently. Other times, we need more and immediately, here and now.
    1. Alexey RA
      Alexey RA April 29 2020 15: 55 New
      +3
      Quote: Crowe
      Now they don’t steal so cute. They steal impudently. Other times, we need more and immediately, here and now.

      На этом ЛЕД основная причина увеличения стоимости не воровство, а гигантский косяк проектировщика - ЦКБ "Айсберг" - который спроектировал корабль, не совпадающий с утверждённым техническим проектом (ТП). И выяснилось это лишь тогда, когда корпус был сформирован настолько, что косметическими изменениями было уже не обойтись. Проще говоря, "Айсберг" самостоятельно внёс в проект изменения, не согласовав их ни с кем.
      ... the disadvantages of the CPAP and the discrepancy between the characteristics of the LK-25 and the specified TPs were identified, independent designation of Iceberg Central Design Bureau LK-25 precipitation in the developed CPAP (in some documents submitted to RMRS, the maximum siege was 10,2 m, in others - 10,5 m), as well as the fact the lack of agreement by the Developer and the State Customer on changes made to the main dimensions and characteristics of the icebreaker

      The expert group formed to analyze the documentation and search for ways out made the following conclusions:
      - the total preponderance of ship structures as a result of minor errors of the Petrobalt Design Bureau in the TP, taking into account the possibility of implementing solutions to correct them at the stage of development of the MPAP and construction of the LK-25, could be about 470 tons;
      - in the developed by TsKB “Iceberg” PDSP, the advantage of LK-25 of project 22600 reached 2500 tons;
      - the main reason for the inevitability, in full, of the advantage gained - in the development of the ICP TsKB “Iceberg”, the concept of the hull structure was changed with respect to the technical decisions adopted in the TS;
      - taking into account the hull structures already manufactured at the BZS, it is not possible to return to the hull structure in the TP concept in full. Compensation for a constructive increase in weight loads and ensuring a maximum draft of 9,7 meters, with a specified value of 9,5 meters in the transformer substation, are possible when implementing additional design decisions and processing on the basis of them the entire MPC, which will lead to a decrease in the weight of the vessel when empty and to ensure the specified characteristics of the vessel ;
      © bmpd
      В результате, ЦКБ "Айсберг" послали подальше, заключили договор с КБ "Вымпел", и оно три года перерабатывало документацию, чтобы при сохранении уже выставленного металла уменьшить осадку до 9,7 метра.
  8. veritas
    veritas April 29 2020 13: 20 New
    +6
    If he walks the same way, as Chernomyrdin said, then the travel time will be greatly increased, for he will walk the tack.
  9. lopuhan2006
    lopuhan2006 April 29 2020 13: 34 New
    +3
    As you call a yacht, so it will sail ......
    Next in the series are B. Nemtsov, Chubais, Kiriyenko of course and Mishustin.
    1. Aviator_
      Aviator_ April 29 2020 13: 40 New
      0
      The last three are still alive
      1. sergo1914
        sergo1914 April 29 2020 13: 45 New
        +8
        Quote: Aviator_
        The last three are still alive



        He knows something ...
      2. Aviator_
        Aviator_ April 29 2020 15: 56 New
        +1
        To the minusers - and what, I have the wrong information, I missed an event such as the death of these fathers of Russian democracy, persons close to ...
  10. svp67
    svp67 April 29 2020 13: 43 New
    +5
    construction was stopped due to gross errors that occurred during the development of the design documentation for the vessel, as a result of which the design overweight on the mass of the icebreaker was about 2,5 thousand tons.
    Well, this has never happened and here again ...
  11. Gennady Fomkin
    Gennady Fomkin April 29 2020 14: 04 New
    -1
    It is difficult to be God, but to keep afloat the country during global changes, and even with 8-dollar oil - it really needs to be a genius!
    1. AnderS
      AnderS April 29 2020 16: 54 New
      +1
      but to keep the country afloat during global changes, and even with $ 8 oil - it really needs to be a genius!

      Too shy to ask, are you talking about?
  12. knn54
    knn54 April 29 2020 14: 08 New
    +4
    Иван Федорович Крузенштерн - человек и пароход. ("Каникулы в Простоквашино"*) В ДАННОМ случае человек и ледокол.
    Теперь ледоколу предстоит "найти работу".Ибо по словам специалистов большая осадка (9,7 м) затрудняет его использование в устьях сибирских рек, а для работы в морях Арктики мощности недостаточно на фоне атомных ледоколов,
    "Здесь вам не тут". Пророческие слова.
    1. Alexey RA
      Alexey RA April 29 2020 15: 58 New
      +3
      Quote: knn54
      Теперь ледоколу предстоит "найти работу".Ибо по словам специалистов большая осадка (9,7 м) затрудняет его использование в устьях сибирских рек, а для работы в морях Арктики мощности недостаточно на фоне атомных ледоколов,

      Where were these specialists before when they approved the technical project with a draft of 9,5-9,7 m? wink
      ЕМНИП, проблемы с работой в устьях были у "айсберговской" версии ЛЕД, когда проектная осадка увеличилась аж до 10,5 м.
  13. Gennady Fomkin
    Gennady Fomkin April 29 2020 14: 08 New
    +2
    Quote: lopuhan2006
    As you call a yacht, so it will sail ......
    Next in the series are B. Nemtsov, Chubais, Kiriyenko of course and Mishustin.

    Mishustin? laughing He only started to work, although at the previous work he put things in order, and we will look further.
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  15. yustas
    yustas April 29 2020 14: 32 New
    +3
    Not that surname and not there, thanks to all of them for my happy childhood in the 90s.
  16. mavrus
    mavrus April 29 2020 14: 52 New
    +2
    Quote: lopuhan2006
    As you call a yacht, so it will sail ......
    Next in the series are B. Nemtsov, Chubais, Kiriyenko of course and Mishustin.

    And why did you miss Gaidarik?
  17. mavrus
    mavrus April 29 2020 14: 55 New
    +4
    Quote: Gennady Fomkin
    Quote: lopuhan2006
    As you call a yacht, so it will sail ......
    Next in the series are B. Nemtsov, Chubais, Kiriyenko of course and Mishustin.

    Mishustin? laughing He only started to work, although at the previous work he put things in order, and we will look further.

    He has already voiced everything ...
    Rip off the poor, do not touch the rich ...
    So look, do not look ... but to sense.
  18. evgenii67
    evgenii67 April 29 2020 15: 17 New
    +3
    This has never happened, and here it is again. With an estimate and a title, just an ahtung. If a new aircraft carrier ever appears in Russia, I hope it will not be called Serdyukov, and some sort of tanker is Sechin.
  19. Maas
    Maas April 29 2020 15: 30 New
    -1
    Krasava ice drift!
  20. lopuhan2006
    lopuhan2006 April 29 2020 16: 11 New
    0
    Quote: Aviator_
    The last three are still alive

    It is during life that it should be called. Hood spa in return.
  21. Gennady Fomkin
    Gennady Fomkin April 29 2020 16: 56 New
    0
    Quote: AnderS
    but to keep the country afloat during global changes, and even with $ 8 oil - it really needs to be a genius!

    Too shy to ask, are you talking about?

    About man the legend of Comrade Chernomyrdin laughing
  22. ENOTE
    ENOTE April 30 2020 22: 02 New
    0
    That would be there in cabins and cockpits to hang his aphorisms. Pancake! It would be really cool and cool!