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Zelensky signed a law on the sale of agricultural land in Ukraine

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Zelensky signed a law on the sale of agricultural land in Ukraine

In Ukraine, a scandalous law on the sale of agricultural land came into force, Ukrainian President Vladimir Zelensky signed a document on April 28, launching the land market on July 1, 2021. This is reported by Ukrainian media.


The President of Ukraine signed the law adopted by the Verkhovna Rada on March 31 this year “On Amending Certain Legislative Acts of Ukraine Concerning the Conditions for the Turnover of Agricultural Land”. Starting July 1, 2021, the new law lifts the moratorium on the sale of agricultural land, which has been in force in Ukraine for 18 years.

Zelensky himself called the adoption of this law "historical event. "The Ukrainian opposition, in turn, intends to challenge the adoption of the law in the Constitutional Court.

This is a historic moment for all Ukrainians and for me personally. Ukraine has been waiting for this law since independence. It was not an easy fight. But we knew that we were doing this for the Ukrainians

- declared the Ukrainian president.

As previously reported, the International Monetary Fund especially insisted on the adoption of the land law, even making it a prerequisite for issuing another loan for Ukraine. At the end of March this year, Zelensky announced that the opening of the land market in Ukraine would make it possible "in the two-week period after signing just about $ 2 billion of a loan."

IMF conditions are two laws: about banks and about land. Nobody wants a default in the country ... We agreed with the IMF leadership, as soon as we make these conditions, for about 15 days we will receive the first quick tranche, it will be about 1,75-2 billion. We will receive immediately to the budget of Ukraine , not at the NBU (National Bank - approx.)

- he said.
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  1. Victor_B
    Victor_B April 29 2020 09: 00 New
    34
    The last resource flew away ... Priceless. Irreplaceable ...
    Nothing more to sell!
    In a few years, all the land will be seeded with rapeseed.
    That's all...
    But still I feel sorry for them ...
    Stupid, not seeing the earth.
    1. donavi49
      donavi49 April 29 2020 09: 07 New
      18
      Why nothing? You can still sell people, in whole or for parts. So far, this is also illegal (recently, the news was that they covered the channel for delivering children to China with docks for more than 50 deals). But if you press ...
      1. Victor_B
        Victor_B April 29 2020 09: 14 New
        +7
        Quote: donavi49
        Why nothing? You can still sell people, in whole or for parts. So far, this is also illegal (recently, the news was that they covered the channel for delivering children to China with docks for more than 50 deals). But if you press ...

        Fascism as it is!
        1. Mitroha
          Mitroha April 29 2020 09: 42 New
          +2
          You can still sell people, in whole or in parts

          And it may come to this, this is not such a wide step after permission to sell agricultural land to foreign citizens. It is naive to believe that Ukraine will be able to deceive everyone, and having received the money at the right time, will give back and nationalize them (lands) back. Not that weight and opportunity.
          And the corporations that will buy these lands have extensive experience explaining to the local authorities who it is more profitable to serve.
          1. Egoza
            Egoza April 29 2020 10: 16 New
            0
            Quote: Mitroha
            It is naive to believe that Ukraine will be able to deceive everyone, and having received the money at the right time, will give back and nationalize them (lands) back.

            And who is talking about back? Ze must hold out now, because if the IMF does not give money, then already in June (and it washes in May) there will be no place to get pensions and other social payments. I'm not talking about salaries. Moreover, everyone (!) Needs to fill out a tax return (!!!). Even if the granny has a "profit" selling vegetables from her garden, you need to pay income tax and the army. If they also press on this now, then there will definitely be a Maidan without any payment.
            1. Alexander Sosnitsky
              Alexander Sosnitsky April 29 2020 12: 30 New
              +3
              This does not happen in nature, that there is land, water and the sun and there is no money which is paper and there is nothing, look for a suction to the side with innocent eyes like a child’s
      2. Egoza
        Egoza April 29 2020 10: 17 New
        +4
        Quote: donavi49
        You can still sell people

        Yeah. Here the other day already from Europa, the requests went to the residents of Zarabot. The charter is offered. There is no one there (Poland, Czech Republic ...) to work on hard work.
        1. orionvitt
          orionvitt April 29 2020 12: 31 New
          +5
          Quote: Egoza
          Charter offer

          I immediately recall the times when blacks were taken out of Africa. Here are just those forcibly, and these themselves, with great pleasure. They sold everything, brought everything that they got from the "bloody Bolsheviks" to a complete tryndets. And now to work for the European owner, this is the highest happiness, every Svidomo Ukrainian. At the same time, not forgetting to shout about "the most freedom-loving nation." laughing
    2. Wolverine
      Wolverine April 29 2020 09: 28 New
      15
      Quote: Victor_B
      The last resource flew away ... Priceless. Irreplaceable ...
      Nothing more to sell!
      In a few years, all the land will be seeded with rapeseed.
      That's all...
      But still I feel sorry for them ...
      Stupid, not seeing the earth.


      Yeah, sell this treason twice for cut paper, burn you to hell, Kabbalists and Satanists.
      1. atalef
        atalef April 29 2020 10: 05 New
        -16
        Quote: Wolverine
        Quote: Victor_B
        The last resource flew away ... Priceless. Irreplaceable ...
        Nothing more to sell!
        In a few years, all the land will be seeded with rapeseed.
        That's all...
        But still I feel sorry for them ...
        Stupid, not seeing the earth.


        Yeah, sell this treason twice for cut paper, burn you to hell, Kabbalists and Satanists.

        it’s not clear how sideways the cabalists are.
        But can someone explain to me - what is the problem if the land has an owner?
        1. Nyrobsky
          Nyrobsky April 29 2020 10: 18 New
          +6
          Quote: atalef
          But can someone explain to me - what is the problem if the land has an owner?

          There will be no problems with the new owner. Old owners will have problems.
          1. atalef
            atalef April 29 2020 10: 21 New
            -11
            Quote: Nyrobsky
            Quote: atalef
            But can someone explain to me - what is the problem if the land has an owner?

            There will be no problems with the new owner. Old owners will have problems.

            What problems ?
            1. novel66
              novel66 April 29 2020 10: 37 New
              +5
              is it for you, apparently, Israel has already set its sights on tidbits?
            2. Nyrobsky
              Nyrobsky April 29 2020 22: 19 New
              +1
              Quote: atalef
              What problems ?

              Shura, why do you ask such questions, the answers to which you do not need initially? Vie is not so stupid as not to understand such a simple difference in concepts like - "To live on earth!" and "To exist on earth" hi
          2. Sergey Medvedev
            Sergey Medvedev April 29 2020 10: 34 New
            +5
            Quote: Nyrobsky
            Old owners will have problems.

            atalef blabbed that he, the Slavs, did not consider us the owners of his land.
            Quote: atalef
            what is the problem if the land has an owner?
            1. atalef
              atalef April 29 2020 10: 51 New
              -10
              Quote: Sergei Medvedev
              atalef blabbed that he, the Slavs, did not consider us the owners of his land.

              Are you the owner?
              And what have the Slavs to do with it?
              1. Sergey Medvedev
                Sergey Medvedev April 29 2020 10: 54 New
                +2
                Quote: atalef
                And what have the Slavs to do with it?

                Exactly. Do you think that we have no relation to our land.
                1. atalef
                  atalef April 29 2020 11: 02 New
                  -10
                  Quote: Sergey Medvedev
                  Quote: atalef
                  And what have the Slavs to do with it?

                  Exactly. Do you think that we have no relation to our land.

                  not understood ?
                  What do I think?
                  that the Slavs are not related to the land of the Russian Federation?
                  Not for two reasons.
                  In general, a lot of Slavs
                  Eastern
                  Russian (self-name - Russian, singular - Russian, language name - Russian language)
                  Ukrainians (self-name - Ukrainian, singular - Ukrainian, language name - Ukrainian mov)
                  Belarusians (self-name - Belarusians, singular - Belarus, name of the language - Belarusian mov)
                  Rusyns (self-name - Rusnatsi, singular - Rusyns, name of the language - Rusynsky bisіda)
                  Western
                  Poles (self-name - polacy, singular - polak, language name - język polski, polszczyzna)
                  Czechs (self-name - češi, singular - čech, language name - český jazyk, čeština)
                  Slovaks (self-name - slováci, singular - slovák, slovenský, language name - slovenský jazyk, slovenčina)
                  Luzhichans (self-name - serby, serbja, singular - serb, names of languages ​​- dolnoserbska rěc, hornjoserbska rěč)
                  Kashuby (self-name - kaszëbi, singular - kaszëb, name of the language - kaszëbsczi jãzëk)
                  Southern
                  Bulgarians (self-name - български, singular - българин, name of the language - български език)
                  Bosniaks (self-name - bošnjaci, singular - bošnjak, name of the language - bosanski jezik, srpskohrvatski jezik)
                  Macedonians (self-name - Macedonian, singular - Macedonian, name of the language - Macedonian)
                  Serbs (self-name - srbi, singular - srbin, name of the language - srpski јзик)
                  Croats (self-name - hrvati, singular - hrvat, language name - hrvatski jezik)
                  Slovenes (self-name - slovenci, singular - slovenec, name of the language - slovenski jezik, slovenščina)
                  Montenegrins (self-name - tsrnogortsi, singular - tsrnograts, name of the language - tsrnogorsk језик)

                  and secondly - there is no RF law securing the ownership of the RF land for the Slavs.
                  wink
                  By the way, on the lands located on the territory of Chechnya. Dagkstan and Tatarstan (as an example) - also pretend as a Slav laughing
                  1. Tank hard
                    Tank hard April 29 2020 20: 30 New
                    -1
                    Quote: atalef
                    that the Slavs are not related to the land of the Russian Federation?
                    Not for two reasons.

                    Don't say gop until you jump ... however, you've already "said a lot" here. You have been heard. yes
              2. Tank hard
                Tank hard April 29 2020 20: 28 New
                -1
                Quote: atalef
                Are you the owner?
                And what have the Slavs to do with it?

                A masterpiece! belay
        2. Vasyan1971
          Vasyan1971 April 29 2020 10: 21 New
          +2
          Quote: atalef
          But maybe someone will explain to me - what is the problem then, if the earth will be the owner ?

          And before that, it was a draw?
          1. atalef
            atalef April 29 2020 10: 23 New
            -11
            Quote: Vasyan1971
            Quote: atalef
            But maybe someone will explain to me - what is the problem then, if the earth will be the owner ?

            And before that, it was a draw?

            Well, suppose a state or some collective farm.
            Now it is possible to sell it, as in Russia.
            In Russia, the same law allows the sale of land in private hands.
            What is the problem? Is it Ukraine? request
            1. Vasyan1971
              Vasyan1971 April 29 2020 10: 25 New
              +1
              Quote: atalef
              What is the problem?

              You don’t understand, apparently ...
              1. atalef
                atalef April 29 2020 10: 37 New
                -6
                Quote: Vasyan1971
                Quote: atalef
                What is the problem?

                You don’t understand, apparently ...

                Apparently you can not explain.
                How is the law on the sale of land in Ukraine different from the law on the sale of land in Russia?
                1. Vasyan1971
                  Vasyan1971 April 29 2020 10: 59 New
                  +1
                  Quote: atalef
                  Apparently you can not explain.

                  Yes. Because you do not understand.
                2. orionvitt
                  orionvitt April 29 2020 12: 36 New
                  -1
                  Quote: atalef
                  How is the law on the sale of land in Ukraine different from the law on the sale of land in Russia?

                  There is a difference in the sale of just land, and in the sale all land as such. (suitable for business). Tu as in the old joke, "the difference, it is between the legs."
            2. neri73-r
              neri73-r April 29 2020 11: 10 New
              +4
              Quote: atalef
              In Russia, the same law allows the sale of land in private hands.
              What is the problem? Is it Ukraine?

              In Russia, foreigners can use agricultural land exclusively on a rental basis. The legislation on gardening and horticulture has also established certain restrictions regarding the acquisition of land ownership. The same thing with joint ventures, if foreign capital is more than 50% - only the right to lease. It is forbidden for foreigners and their firms to own land in border areas. We have many restrictions, this is not the case in Ukraine. So sho Monsanto and K are future owners of the land of Ukraine. In addition, we have a ban on the use and cultivation of GMO agricultural products, in Ukraine there.
              1. Dym71
                Dym71 April 29 2020 17: 04 New
                +1
                Quote: neri73-r
                In Russia, foreigners can use agricultural land exclusively on a rental basis.

                But in fact?
                In practice, this restriction is circumvented. So, foreign companies and foreign citizens create firms on the territory of Russia (“daughters”, “daughters of daughters”) and acquire land.
                1. neri73-r
                  neri73-r April 29 2020 17: 10 New
                  -1
                  Quote: Dym71
                  Quote: neri73-r
                  In Russia, foreigners can use agricultural land exclusively on a rental basis.

                  But in fact?
                  In practice, this restriction is circumvented. So, foreign companies and foreign citizens create firms on the territory of Russia (“daughters”, “daughters of daughters”) and acquire land.

                  In fact, they "officially" cannot come to us, sow and collect their GMO shit too! And this is not massive! We hold the first place in wheat, not foreign companies, etc. We ourselves have many large and very large agricultural enterprises. I have a neighbor in the village where he was born, has shares from a former collective farm, inherited. He leases them to a local sugar factory and leases them out, so he gets very, very good for rent.
                  1. Dym71
                    Dym71 April 29 2020 17: 16 New
                    +1
                    Quote: neri73-r
                    In fact, they "officially" cannot come to us,

                    Information to you on the adopted Ukrainian law on the land market No. 552-IX:
                    The land market will be launched in Ukraine from July 1, 2021.
                    The law provides that from July 1, 2021, ownership of land plots of agricultural purpose with an area of ​​up to 100 hectares may be acquired exclusively by citizens of Ukraine.
                    Starting January 1, 2024, legal entities owned by Ukrainians will also receive this opportunity. They will be able to buy up to 10 thousand hectares of land. The sale of state and communal lands is also prohibited.
                    According to the signed law, the question of giving foreigners the right to buy land will be decided in a referendum.
                    1. neri73-r
                      neri73-r April 29 2020 17: 24 New
                      -1
                      Quote: Dym71
                      Quote: neri73-r
                      In fact, they "officially" cannot come to us,

                      Information to you on the adopted Ukrainian law on the land market No. 552-IX:
                      The land market will be launched in Ukraine from July 1, 2021.
                      The law provides that from July 1, 2021, ownership of land plots of agricultural purpose with an area of ​​up to 100 hectares may be acquired exclusively by citizens of Ukraine.
                      Starting January 1, 2024, legal entities owned by Ukrainians will also receive this opportunity. They will be able to buy up to 10 thousand hectares of land. The sale of state and communal lands is also prohibited.
                      According to the signed law, the question of giving foreigners the right to buy land will be decided in a referendum.

                      Shaw, is it difficult to buy a Ukrainian? lol Here, non-state lands are important, they have agricultural land, black earth !!! This is what the owners need and they will squeeze the power of the nenko! 100% Not for this they give loans there. And about the referendum, this is for the people.
                      1. Dym71
                        Dym71 April 29 2020 17: 47 New
                        +1
                        Quote: neri73-r
                        Shaw, is it difficult to buy a Ukrainian?

                        I’m not talking about this, their law is similar to ours. yes
    3. Olgovich
      Olgovich April 29 2020 09: 28 New
      +5
      Quote: Victor_B
      The last resource flew away ... Priceless. Irreplaceable ...

      , yes, just like that ... "independent": what the IMF ORDERED, then ...perform belay .

      A step to the left, a step to the right - execution (denial of credit).

      went hand in hand "touchy" Sumeria.... request
      1. Insurgent
        Insurgent April 29 2020 09: 35 New
        +7
        Zelensky signed a law on the sale of agricultural land in Ukraine

        MO-LO-DETS!, now even legalize the sale of Ukrainian women to slave markets, and will be generally in the lights good .

        1. Mountain shooter
          Mountain shooter April 29 2020 09: 41 New
          0
          Quote: Insurgent
          now legalize the sale of Ukrainian women to slave markets, and

          So how many migrant workers have they received from Europe? And now there is the opportunity to SELL them there.
          For each of 1000 euros ... for a year. An urgent need to take a patent ... for an idea ... tongue
        2. Victor_B
          Victor_B April 29 2020 09: 41 New
          -1
          Quote: Insurgent
          , now even legalize the sale of Ukrainian women to slave markets

          Duc them already in Geyropa surplus.
          Do not fit.
          Futures for them went in the red.
          1. Insurgent
            Insurgent April 29 2020 09: 44 New
            +4
            Quote: Victor_B
            Duc them already in Geyropa surplus.
            Do not fit.

            You underestimate the possibilities of global markets for the industry ...
            Africa, Middle East, Southeast Asia, Asia Pacific ...
            1. Victor_B
              Victor_B April 29 2020 09: 46 New
              -1
              Quote: Insurgent
              You underestimate the possibilities of world markets

              Well, let them!
              The collective farm is voluntary!
            2. Sergej1972
              Sergej1972 April 29 2020 10: 24 New
              0
              Do you consider the decrease in the purchasing power of consumers of these services in the conditions of the global economic crisis?)
            3. atalef
              atalef April 29 2020 10: 29 New
              -6
              Quote: Insurgent
              You underestimate the possibilities of global markets for the industry ...
              Africa, Middle East, Southeast Asia, Asia Pacific ...

              I have a wife, a lawyer, and by occupation, she is also involved in immigrant law and department appeals.
              These butterflies are caught and deported.
              There are all of the countries of the former USSR.
              And from Russia and Ukraine and the Donbass (so that you would understand) and Moldova and Georgia, the Former Central Asian Republics and Belarus - EVERYTHING IS ENOUGH AND FROM EVERYTHING.
              That's about whom I have not heard - so about the Baltic states.
              1. NDR-791
                NDR-791 April 29 2020 10: 34 New
                +4
                That's about whom I have not heard - so about the Baltic states.
                So these are their own, European Union. Both union and tax pay.
              2. Insurgent
                Insurgent April 29 2020 10: 36 New
                +1
                Quote: atalef
                I have a wife, a lawyer, and by occupation, she is also involved in immigrant law and department appeals.

                On "butterflies", do not "cut off", but answer - WHERE in the Law of the Russian Federation an article which indicates the right of foreigners (companies) to directly or indirectly acquire agricultural land?

                Answeroutskirts lawyer.
                1. atalef
                  atalef April 29 2020 10: 56 New
                  -1
                  Quote: Insurgent
                  On "butterflies", do not "cut off", but answer - WHERE is the article in the Law of the Russian Federation that indicates the right of foreigners (companies), directly or indirectly, to acquire agricultural land?

                  Have questions or are you finally shut up?
                  Clause 3 of Article 62 of the Constitution of the Russian Federation stipulates that foreign citizens and stateless persons enjoy rights and responsibilities in the Russian Federation on an equal basis with Russian citizens, except in cases established by federal law or an international treaty of the Russian Federation.

                  Important!

                  That is, the acquisition of real estate (which includes land) by foreigners is not prohibited. There are certain limitations.

                  Land plots are provided to foreign citizens and stateless persons exclusively for a fee (Clause 4, Article 39.4 of the RF Labor Code). A foreigner cannot acquire land in Russia at no cost.
                  1. ender
                    ender April 29 2020 11: 09 New
                    +3
                    atalef (alexander) here you are wrong.

                    according to Federal Law N 101-FZ "On the turnover of agricultural land" -
                    foreign citizens, foreign legal entities, stateless persons, as well as legal entities in whose authorized (joint-stock) capital of which the share of foreign citizens, foreign legal entities, stateless persons is more than 50 percent, may own land from agricultural land only on a leasehold basis. and it is about them
                    1. Insurgent
                      Insurgent April 29 2020 15: 28 New
                      +2
                      Quote: ender
                      atalef (alexander) here you are wrong.

                      according to Federal Law N 101-FZ "On the turnover of agricultural land" -
                      foreign citizens, foreign legal entities, stateless persons, as well as legal entities in whose authorized (joint-stock) capital of which the share of foreign citizens, foreign legal entities, stateless persons is more than 50 percent, may own land from agricultural land only on a leasehold basis. and it is about them


                      But he does not see No. , he threw in supposedly "lethal information", and then at least the grass will not grow.

                      Actually, this is the breed of people-people that learned letters (everything!), Learned to add words and sentences when reading them, but with understanding meaning of the above, in this case in the Federal Law N 101-FZ, everything is very, very deplorable.

                      And there is an ominous reason ...

                      The point is not in their limitations, as it might seem at first glance, but in the inexplicable
                      reverent love (?) for the Bandera-Nazi regime of the outskirts ...

                      It would be better just fool were ...
                  2. atalef
                    atalef April 29 2020 11: 15 New
                    -2
                    Quote: atalef
                    Quote: Insurgent
                    On "butterflies", do not "cut off", but answer - WHERE is the article in the Law of the Russian Federation that indicates the right of foreigners (companies), directly or indirectly, to acquire agricultural land?

                    Have questions or are you finally shut up?
                    Clause 3 of Article 62 of the Constitution of the Russian Federation stipulates that foreign citizens and stateless persons enjoy rights and responsibilities in the Russian Federation on an equal basis with Russian citizens, except in cases established by federal law or an international treaty of the Russian Federation.

                    Important!

                    That is, the acquisition of real estate (which includes land) by foreigners is not prohibited. There are certain limitations.

                    Land plots are provided to foreign citizens and stateless persons exclusively for a fee (Clause 4, Article 39.4 of the RF Labor Code). A foreigner cannot acquire land in Russia at no cost.

                    Well, you did circumcision like that, and even in the most interesting place
                    Foreign citizens, foreign legal entities, stateless persons, as well as legal entities in whose authorized (joint-stock) capital of which the share of foreign citizens, foreign legal entities, stateless persons is more than 50 percent, may own land plots from agricultural land only lease right except for the cases provided for by the Federal Law of May 1, 2016 N 119-FZ "On the specifics of providing citizens with land plots in state or municipal ownership and located in the territories of the constituent entities of the Russian Federation that are part of the Far Eastern Federal District, and on amending certain legislative acts of the Russian Federation".
                    (in the edition of the Federal Law from 27.12.2018 N 503-FZ)

                    namely what is it about?
                    Quote: atalef
                    foreign citizens and stateless persons are provided with land plots exclusively for a fee

                    request
                    1. Insurgent
                      Insurgent April 29 2020 11: 29 New
                      0
                      Quote: atalef
                      Well, you did circumcision like that, and even in the most interesting place

                      Pull the wrong end lol
                    2. ender
                      ender April 29 2020 11: 37 New
                      +1
                      this exception applies only to participants in the State program to facilitate the voluntary resettlement of compatriots living abroad to the Russian Federation and members of their families who are jointly resettling for permanent residence in the Russian Federation.
          2. atalef
            atalef April 29 2020 10: 07 New
            -6
            Quote: Victor_B
            Quote: Insurgent
            , now even legalize the sale of Ukrainian women to slave markets

            Duc them already in Geyropa surplus.
            Do not fit.
            Futures for them went in the red.

            Well, in Europe and not only different ones, there are enough from Russia as well.
            What is the connection with the sale of land? What is the difference between land and, say, an apartment?
            1. Insurgent
              Insurgent April 29 2020 10: 26 New
              +7
              Quote: atalef
              What is the connection with the sale of land? What is the difference between land and, say, an apartment?

              And for some with their homeland, isn’t that, an emigrant refugee?
              1. atalef
                atalef April 29 2020 10: 35 New
                -6
                Quote: Insurgent
                And for some, and with their homeland,?

                I’m actually at home.
                Or do you have a problem with a Jew living in Israel?
                laughing

                Quote: Insurgent
                refugee emigrant

                request
                refugee?
                The refugees are yours, whom my wife from the department saves back to the DPR.
                Israel began to consider applications of citizens of Ukraine for granting refugee status under a simplified procedure. It will take several weeks instead of several months, as it was before. Accordingly, this will also accelerate deportation in the event of a failure, Haaretz reports.

                New rules are being introduced, as the Ministry of Foreign Affairs and the Ministry of Justice of Israel have recognized Ukraine as a safe country. This decision entered into force on October 17.

                Since 2014, the Israeli authorities did not recognize Ukraine as a safe country because of the hostilities in the Donbass and began to accept refugees. About 15 thousand Ukrainians applied for refugee status, of which 7 thousand - from the beginning of 2017.
                The recognition of Ukraine as a safe country does not apply to uncontrolled areas of Donetsk and Lugansk regions. Israel's asylum applications in Israel will continue to be considered in a special manner.

                "Petitions from residents of [Donetsk and Lugansk regions] will be examined on the merits," said Shlomo Mor-Josef, director of the Office for Population and Immigration

                flee from you.
                neither to you, from you. wink
                1. Insurgent
                  Insurgent April 29 2020 10: 43 New
                  +1
                  Quote: atalef
                  flee from you.
                  neither to you, from you.

                  Yes yes temporarily controlled by the outskirts of the territory of the DPR and LPR, and the outskirts yes
                  1. atalef
                    atalef April 29 2020 11: 06 New
                    -1
                    Quote: Insurgent
                    Quote: atalef
                    flee from you.
                    neither to you, from you.

                    Yes yes temporarily controlled by the outskirts of the territory of the DPR and LPR, and the outskirts yes

                    Well, if Donetsk is a territory temporarily controlled by Ukraine, then yes.
                    Tk from Donetsk is the same.
                    I now specifically asked my wife.
                    it is from Donetsk.
                    From the city of Donetsk.
                    You carefully read that you would not have different interpretations.
                    1. Insurgent
                      Insurgent April 29 2020 11: 33 New
                      +1
                      Quote: atalef
                      From the city of Donetsk.
                      You carefully read that you would not have different interpretations.

                      Yeah? From Donetsk itself belay ??? Yes, there were a lot of them drifted to 14m from Donetsk, and the Akhmetovskys, twins, and other shelupon ...

                      And what, should I consider them Donetsk residents? They are more like you - without a homeland and a flag ...
                      1. atalef
                        atalef April 29 2020 11: 37 New
                        -2
                        Quote: Insurgent
                        Yeah? From Donetsk itself ??? Yes, there were a lot of them drifted to 14m from Donetsk, and the Akhmetovskys, twins, and other shelupon ...

                        not, those have been deported for a long time, it's fresh
                        2019 - 2020, there is a couple that has been delayed since 2018 (they threw out their passports) and to restore the problem through the Ukrainian consulate - your authorities (DNI) - do not give information.
                        So they are sitting in an immigration prison.
                        Quote: Insurgent
                        And what, should I consider them Donetsk residents?

                        Of course, who do you think they are?
                      2. Insurgent
                        Insurgent April 29 2020 11: 38 New
                        +1
                        Quote: atalef
                        Of course, who do you think they are?

                        Yes, such as you (written above).

                        not, those have been deported for a long time, it's fresh
                        2019 - 2020 year


                        And what, in the outskirts already over "refugees from the DPR / LPR" "waves 20ё14", why did you write them down "straight from the tin"?
                      3. atalef
                        atalef April 29 2020 11: 45 New
                        0
                        Quote: Insurgent
                        Quote: atalef
                        Of course, who do you think they are?

                        Yes, such as you (written above).

                        That is your whole problem, you are ready to blaspheme everything around, not noticing much bigger problems.
                        And when they bury your head in the toilet, you immediately discard the stems.
                        Once again (for those not particularly understanding) - I will write.
                        Coming from LDNR. 3 categories.
                        1. Just try to shed your shopping mall.
                        2 butterflies go to earn extra money - in their own way
                        3.Muzhiki usually construction workers.
                        You can consider them Donetsk, you can not ..
                        your private affair.
                        The fact that they are residents of Donetsk and your DPR will not change.
                        I understand that you have all the patriots and shit butterflies, only who removed all your commanders led by Zakharchenko? wink
                        Ukrainian DRG? wink
                        Or yours.
      2. your1970
        your1970 April 29 2020 12: 59 New
        0
        Quote: Victor_B
        Duc them already in Geyropa surplus.
        -in the EU catastrophically lacks hands on agricultural work
    4. Lara Croft
      Lara Croft April 29 2020 13: 40 New
      +1
      Quote: Insurgent
      Zelensky signed a law on the sale of agricultural land in Ukraine

      MO-LO-DETS!, now even legalize the sale of Ukrainian women to slave markets, and will be generally in the lights good .


      Eeee ... the mulatto in the center is also Ukrainian?
      1. Insurgent
        Insurgent April 29 2020 15: 14 New
        +4
        Quote: Lara Croft
        Eeee ... the mulatto in the center is also Ukrainian?

        And sho zrobish? request Cho e, then e yes

      2. Dym71
        Dym71 April 29 2020 23: 15 New
        +2
        Quote: Lara Croft
        Eeee ... the mulatto in the center is also Ukrainian?

        Not a mulatto; fellow
  • atalef
    atalef April 29 2020 10: 03 New
    -8
    Quote: Victor_B
    The last resource flew away ... Priceless. Irreplaceable ...

    And what? Earth will be taken out?
    Quote: Victor_B
    Nothing more to sell!

    I do not see any problem in selling land in private hands.
    Quote: Victor_B
    In a few years, the whole earth will be sown with rapeseed.

    Why canola? And what's the big deal?
    The main thing is seeded - the main thing is that they will be processed
    Quote: Victor_B
    Stupid, not seeing the earth.

    And in Russia they sell land in private ownership?
    I just do not know .
    1. Sergej1972
      Sergej1972 April 29 2020 10: 26 New
      +3
      Rapeseed depletes the soil very much. In pursuit of profit, farmers do not always observe crop rotation. In Russia, land is privately sold.
      1. atalef
        atalef April 29 2020 10: 39 New
        -3
        Quote: Sergej1972
        Rapeseed depletes the soil very much. In pursuit of profit, farmers do not always observe crop rotation. In Russia, land is privately sold.

        Why is it forbidden to plant rapeseed in Russia?
        And if it is not forbidden, then why in Russia everything is not planted with rapeseed, but in Ukraine it will be?
        1. Sergej1972
          Sergej1972 April 29 2020 10: 49 New
          +3
          And in Russia the same problem exists. Not only canola, but also sunflower is sometimes abused. Because it is very profitable to grow. But this is a matter of either the literacy of agronomists, or the excessive greed of some farmers. You just need to observe crop rotation. And so, both rapeseed and sunflower are some of the most necessary and profitable crops. Rape has been very actively started since the days of Andropov, they began to cultivate, despite the resistance of part of the heads of collective farms and directors of state farms. It was rumored that after eating rape, cows give milk with a bitter aftertaste, etc. and that it looks like a weed at all.) There were rumors that Andropov became a fan of rape after his tenure as ambassador to Hungary in the 50s. In fairness, rape was introduced using non-administrative methods like corn under Khrushchev.
          1. atalef
            atalef April 29 2020 10: 53 New
            0
            Quote: Sergej1972
            And in Russia the same problem exists.

          2. Kushka
            Kushka April 29 2020 14: 44 New
            +1
            Those who exported 30 million tons of corn from Ukraine, as well as those from Russia for 1 lard,
            should come to Moscow, dig a monument to Khrushchev and put it on a 30-meter
            a column of pure gold (preferably with a ladder, so that once a year, on his birthday
            crawling out and kissing his ass)
        2. BARKAS
          BARKAS April 29 2020 11: 00 New
          -1
          In Europe there is a shortage of rapeseed that goes to the production of biodiesel, which is popular there, now there will be areas for its production, because Ukraine is Europe.
          1. atalef
            atalef April 29 2020 11: 32 New
            -1
            Quote: BARKAS
            In Europe there is a shortage of rapeseed which goes to the production of biodiesel, which is popular there, now there will be areas for its production, because Ukraine is in Europe

            request
            ss such a price for oil?
            who needs biodiesel.
            1. BARKAS
              BARKAS April 29 2020 12: 21 New
              0
              Ecology has nothing to do with the price of oil.
    2. g1v2
      g1v2 April 29 2020 18: 24 New
      +2
      Sell ​​- you can buy, but for foreigners with restrictions. If anything, you have to get Russian citizenship. laughing By the way, then you can apply for a free Far Eastern hectare. A freebie is waiting. laughing fellow
  • Lara Croft
    Lara Croft April 29 2020 13: 26 New
    -1
    Quote: Victor_B
    The last resource flew away ... Priceless. Irreplaceable ...
    Nothing more to sell!

    There is also a forest fund, subsoil, water sources, labor ...
    In addition, on the territory of Ukraine you can place the harmful production of EU countries, the Pentagon’s tank laboratory ...
    By the way, it's time for Pan Zelensky to reduce ("optimize") the Armed Forces of Ukraine and dissolve the nat. baht .... during the period of land auctions in a couple of years, a large number of peasants with weapons in their hands with different ideology will be out of place ...
  • g1v2
    g1v2 April 29 2020 18: 21 New
    +3
    Of course, I treat dill according to the slogan "Carthage must be destroyed", but hysteria because of this law certainly touches. belay If someone does not know, we have long had a land market and the sky has not collapsed to the earth. laughing
    In Ukraine, this law was primarily needed not by the IMF, but by the government and the oligarchs. Land is a good investment of money, and trading in it is the only thing. which can significantly replenish the Ukrainian budget and the budgets of regional authorities and their owners. There are not many serious sources of income left there. Moving the arrows to the IMF and the West is just an otmaza Like "we didn't want to, but the West forced us." The IMF is, of course, for this law, because there is no desire to contain the Ukrainian shobla, but then Ukraine still found something to trade.
    In any case, foreigners will not run to buy land while the war is going on there. Bad dumb. And before the end of the war, the ukro-oligarchs had not yet ripened. request
  • Alex Justice
    Alex Justice April 29 2020 18: 53 New
    +1
    A relative from Ivano-Frankivsk wrote to me that they had already destroyed the land with rapeseed.
  • Trevis
    Trevis April 29 2020 09: 01 New
    +1
    So that is all.
    1. lucul
      lucul April 29 2020 09: 10 New
      +2
      We agreed with the IMF leadership, as soon as we make these conditions, for about 15 days we will receive the first quick tranche, it will be about 1,75-2 billion. We will receive immediately to the budget of Ukraine, not to the NBU

      Yes, he is a clown, a clown. Well, you've eaten these $ 2 billion, and then what? How are they going to live, replenish the economy. The land then does not belong to you. Or they don’t look so far? )))
      1. alexmach
        alexmach April 29 2020 09: 33 New
        -3
        Well, in the first place, those who buy land will do something on it (in fact, they are doing it now, but all the same, the transfer of land into ownership can accelerate the agricultural business, for example, incentives to invest more in their land). Peasants who sold land can buy something with the money that has been freed up and create demand ...
        1. Normal ok
          Normal ok April 29 2020 22: 58 New
          0
          Quote: alexmach
          Well, in fact, firstly, those who buy land will do something on it (in fact, they are doing it now, but anyway, the transition of land to own can accelerate the agricultural business, for example, incentives will invest more in their land). Peasants who sold land can buy something with the money that has been freed up and create demand ...

          I will cling to the word "property" because it is key here. You at least got to the heart of the matter. Most of the commentators in general, apart from the words "Ukraine", "land" and "sale", do not understand anything at all about what is happening. So, especially for those who are not allowed by "convictions" to google the point: all Ukrainian agricultural lands since the 90s have been privately owned !!! So, "to sell Ukraine" will no longer work, it has long been in private hands)) It happened during the time of privatization. If the workers were then sent with vouchers, then the collective farmers were very lucky. They were given collective farm land free of charge. Since then she is PRIVATE !!! And this land was sold earlier! But since 2001, a moratorium has been introduced so that OWNERS can sell their OWN land! Thus, large tenants (agricultural holdings, which were just rising at that time and did not have large circulating assets) forced the peasants to lease their land to them at ridiculous prices - they will still not go anywhere. If you look not at the flashy headline but a little lower in the text, you will find that the law is called "on the lifting of the moratorium".
          PS. The problems of the law are not the essence of the sale, but how the procedures governing the land market are spelled out. Speaking of foreigners. They are not allowed to own agricultural land at this stage.
    2. prior
      prior April 29 2020 09: 11 New
      +8
      Gorbachev destroyed the USSR, Zelensky sold Ukraine.
      A worthy student .... a worthless teacher.
      1. atalef
        atalef April 29 2020 10: 09 New
        -3
        Quote: prior
        Gorbachev destroyed the USSR, Zelensky sold Ukraine.
        A worthy student .... a worthless teacher.

        Somehow no one answered me, is Russia allowed to sell land in private hands or not?
        1. Sergej1972
          Sergej1972 April 29 2020 10: 34 New
          +2
          I answered. Has long been resolved. There are certain restrictions depending on the category of land and on the legal status of the territory. For example, foreigners cannot buy land in the border area. And for their own there are certain restrictions. No one will allow to buy land on the territory of a nature reserve or a state contract, etc. As far as I know, no one buys land (except for land for the construction of buildings and structures) on vast areas of tundra, forest-tundra and taiga due to the complete senselessness of this. Recently, it seems that a restriction has been introduced in the following plan. If the owner of agricultural land does not use it for its intended purpose within a certain period, the state may take this land away in court. I am, of course, a layman. Therefore, if you want to study the details, go to the websites of the State Duma, the Ministry of Agriculture or the legal systems "Guarantor" or "Consultant-Plus", there is a complete database of legislative acts and by-laws on this topic.
          1. atalef
            atalef April 29 2020 10: 43 New
            -3
            Quote: Sergej1972
            I replied. It has long been allowed. There are certain restrictions depending on the category of land and the legal status of the territory.

            so what's the problem ? the flock is just nioc.
        2. Moon
          Moon April 29 2020 10: 36 New
          -4
          Quote: atalef
          Quote: prior
          Gorbachev destroyed the USSR, Zelensky sold Ukraine.
          A worthy student .... a worthless teacher.

          Somehow no one answered me, is Russia allowed to sell land in private hands or not?

          In the Russian Federation, the market turnover of agricultural land was introduced in 2003 with the adoption of the federal law of the same name
          Agricultural land is allowed to be bought by any individual - a citizen of Russia and a legal entity owned by citizens of Russia. Foreign citizens, foreign legal entities, stateless persons, as well as legal entities in whose charter capital the share of foreign citizens, foreign legal entities, stateless persons is more than 50%, can only rent agricultural land. At the same time, foreigners can virtually unlimitedly acquire land through the acquisition of ownership of shares (units) in the right of common ownership of land plots consisting of agricultural land for designation. Foreigners may own any number of shares in the common ownership right to an agricultural plot, except for the last part.
          In 2013, as part of the Land Reform Barometer project and together with colleagues from CASE Ukraine, a short memo was developed and published on Russia's experience in land reform and lifting the moratorium.
          After 17 years, Ukraine repeated the experience of the Russian Federation.
          But this is bad. In Russia, they are staples, in Ukraine you yourself understand what.
          So great-power chauvinism and the imperials will explain to you that the phrases "Ukraine" and "something else" are always bad! Even if this is the case in the Russian Federation.
          There was also a moratorium in the Russian Federation. A long time ago.
          1. atalef
            atalef April 29 2020 10: 44 New
            -3
            Quote: Σελήνη
            After 17 years, Ukraine repeated the experience of the Russian Federation.
            But this is bad. In Russia, they are staples, in Ukraine you yourself understand what.

            What ?
            like this?
            1. Insurgent
              Insurgent April 29 2020 11: 25 New
              +1
              Quote: atalef
              What ?
              like this?



              Yes, like ... Only another, in your place, posting this picture, would burn in the hell of a fire ban.

              And you don’t have anything ...
        3. novel66
          novel66 April 29 2020 10: 40 New
          0
          I'm afraid to make a mistake, the sale of land already in private ownership is allowed as a result of privatization
  • cniza
    cniza April 29 2020 09: 02 New
    +8
    In Ukraine, a scandalous law on the sale of agricultural land came into force, Ukrainian President Vladimir Zelensky signed a document on April 28, launching the land market on July 1, 2021.


    May not reach this date ..., although, tired of already with Ukraine, let them live as they want.
  • Baloo
    Baloo April 29 2020 09: 02 New
    +5
    Gorbachev also "negotiated" ... It looks like the tragicomedy has passed the stage of farce, what will be the ending? Everything is clear with Zelensky, as well as with Porosenko and other dancers. Judging by the logic of events, the clown dol
    wives to change the dictator on the eve of a grand schucher.
    1. sniperino
      sniperino April 29 2020 14: 17 New
      +2
      Quote: Balu
      The somersaults of developed parliamentarism.
  • Azazelo
    Azazelo April 29 2020 09: 02 New
    +1
    The main thing is now to catch the green until they hung on the lamppost
    1. novel66
      novel66 April 29 2020 10: 41 New
      -1
      and instead of a clown there will be a doll on a string ..
  • knn54
    knn54 April 29 2020 09: 05 New
    +3
    Sell, in fact, the country TOTAL for $ 2 billion. Which must be returned with%.
    The IMF took advantage of the pandemic. Therefore, the answer to the question - "qui benefacit animae" (about coronavirus) is clear.
    1. Eugene-Eugene
      Eugene-Eugene April 29 2020 09: 11 New
      -3
      The law on the sale began to be pushed back in the fall. The virus has nothing to do with it.
  • Oleg Bagaev
    Oleg Bagaev April 29 2020 09: 08 New
    -5
    I bet that this law will not come into force, by then either the Shah will die or donkey, figuratively speaking.
    1. alexmach
      alexmach April 29 2020 09: 34 New
      +2
      Do you know what is needed for its entry into force? And what can prevent this?
    2. Egoza
      Egoza April 29 2020 10: 22 New
      0
      Quote: Oleg Bagaev
      I bet that this law will not come into force, by then either the Shah will die or donkey, figuratively speaking.

      After being signed by the president, the law is published and comes into force in 5 days. True, it can still be challenged in the Constitutional Court, what "our Julia" plans to do
      1. novel66
        novel66 April 29 2020 10: 42 New
        0
        and what are the chances?
  • Doccor18
    Doccor18 April 29 2020 09: 11 New
    -2
    So that is all...
    Lose now the last thing they had. Ukrainian black soil, like hot cakes, will fly apart in an instant
    on assets of large western corporations.
    1. Doccor18
      Doccor18 April 29 2020 09: 30 New
      -2
      32 million hectares of arable land.
      A very tidbit!
    2. atalef
      atalef April 29 2020 10: 10 New
      -7
      Quote: Doccor18
      Lose now the last thing they had. Ukrainian black soil, like hot cakes, will fly apart in an instant
      on assets of large western corporations.

      What kind of nonsense?
      what will they take out?
      1. NDR-791
        NDR-791 April 29 2020 10: 40 New
        +2
        He was already taken out. Under the pan, the Hytler began and continued with the rest of the independent rulers. The truth is quiet as we have a forest.
        1. Normal ok
          Normal ok April 29 2020 23: 03 New
          0
          I remember how Meehan was in 2015-2016. posted similar nonsense. Then even he fell silent. Are you a proponent of an alternative story?
      2. novel66
        novel66 April 29 2020 10: 42 New
        0
        and there were such plans ...
      3. Baloo
        Baloo April 29 2020 14: 36 New
        +2
        Quote: atalef
        What kind of nonsense?
        what will they take out?
        Reply

        exported during the occupation by the Fritz.
  • veritas
    veritas April 29 2020 09: 12 New
    +6
    Ukraine went under the hammer.
  • Lieutenant Ivolgin
    Lieutenant Ivolgin April 29 2020 09: 12 New
    +2
    They allowed the "Odessa citizens" to come to power. They changed history, quarreled among the fraternal peoples, ruined the war, and now they sold the land to Mother, Russia of Kiev. Already 3 leading American companies specializing in GMOs have bought up land, will fill everything and everyone with chemistry and ... eat for health. It remains only to jump from the news, who does not jump, that Muscovite.
    1. Moon
      Moon April 29 2020 10: 40 New
      -4
      Quote: Lieutenant Ivolgin
      Allowed "Odessa citizens" to power

      where do they come from?
      Quote: Lieutenant Ivolgin
      They changed history, quarreled fraternal peoples, wrecked the war, and now they sold the land to mother, Rus of Kiev

      This is done not only in Ukraine.
      Mutual occupation otherwise would not work.
      1. Lieutenant Ivolgin
        Lieutenant Ivolgin April 29 2020 18: 27 New
        -1
        And here are the "Odessa citizens"? Are you serious?
        Tymoshenko - Kapitelman, Poroshenko - Valtsman, Yatsenyuk - Bakai, Klitschko - Etinson, Turchinov - Kogan, Tyagnibok - Frotman, Zelensky. Well and further on the list, Korban, Kernes, Blucher, Gerstein, Kolomoisky.
  • Eugene-Eugene
    Eugene-Eugene April 29 2020 09: 13 New
    +2
    Quote: Trevis
    so that is all

  • pru-pavel
    pru-pavel April 29 2020 09: 15 New
    -15
    Most think naively. What if a foreigner buys land in ownership. From this, it will transfer to the jurisdiction of another state and enter into its composition. (Apparently the one whose citizen the buyer is) is funny of course. It would be worth remembering that, for example, no one in Russia bought Crimea
    1. Aleksey Aleksandrovich
      Aleksey Aleksandrovich April 29 2020 09: 23 New
      10
      Sell ​​one of the rooms in your apartment and see what happens. You will definitely cease to be a full-fledged master in your house.
    2. BARKAS
      BARKAS April 29 2020 09: 27 New
      +1
      Oh well, now there’s no need to go to Poland, the Polish chief will come by himself.
    3. Servisinzhener
      Servisinzhener April 29 2020 10: 02 New
      -1
      Of course not. But that’s what non-Ukrainians will grow and grow at all.
  • Gennady Fomkin
    Gennady Fomkin April 29 2020 09: 22 New
    +1
    Ukraine has been waiting for this law since independence. It was not an easy fight. But we knew that we were doing this for the Ukrainians, ”his press service quoted Vladimir Zelensky as saying. Plus! Non-repayable non-repayable loans secured by agricultural land will be issued in advance. laughing
  • Prisoner
    Prisoner April 29 2020 09: 24 New
    +4
    "This is a historic moment for all Ukrainians and for me personally. Ukraine has been waiting for this law since gaining independence. It was not an easy struggle. But we knew we were doing it for the Ukrainians." (from) sad Here is TV-ar cynical! I wonder how many Panasov, Gritsko and Ondriev will buy this land and for how many hectares? The law on the sale of "Nenki Ukrainy" has been signed and not even an advance payment, but a loan for betrayal is promised. As many as 2 lard amerovskih tugriks. Here's your granny and lace panties! request
  • alexmach
    alexmach April 29 2020 09: 40 New
    -9
    Listen, now I want to ask excited commentators talking about what they say they sold the last. But doesn’t it bother you that the exact same law, in the same form in which it will enter into force in Ukraine in 2024, has been in force in Russia since the 90s?
    Have you already bought up all the Jones, Toms, and others, or did you still have cottages left somewhere else?
    1. Insurgent
      Insurgent April 29 2020 10: 00 New
      +2
      Quote: alexmach
      Doesn’t it bother you that the exact same law, in the same form in which it will enter into force in Ukraine in 2024, has been in force in Russia since the 90s?

      It is embarrassing that, for example, I do not know about such a law in the Russian Federation, but you did not bother to indicate its name or give a link ...
      1. atalef
        atalef April 29 2020 10: 15 New
        -3
        Quote: Insurgent
        Quote: alexmach
        Doesn’t it bother you that the exact same law, in the same form in which it will enter into force in Ukraine in 2024, has been in force in Russia since the 90s?

        It is embarrassing that, for example, I do not know about such a law in the Russian Federation, but you did not bother to indicate its name or give a link ...

        found.
        Why are we breaking spears?
        in Russia given land in private ownership is sold including agricultural.

        Federal Law of 24.07.2002 N 101-FZ (as amended on 06.06.2019) "On the turnover of agricultural land"
        Article 8. Purchase and sale of land from agricultural land


        1. When selling a land plot from agricultural land by a constituent entity of the Russian Federation or in cases established by the law of a constituent entity of the Russian Federation, the municipality shall have the preemptive right to purchase such a land plot at the price for which it is sold, except for cases of sale at public auction and cases of withdrawal land for state or municipal needs.
        (in the edition of Federal Laws from 07.07.2003 N 113-ФЗ, from 31.12.2014 N 499-ФЗ)
        (see the text in the previous wording)
        2. The seller of a land plot from agricultural land shall notify in writing the highest executive body of state power of a constituent entity of the Russian Federation or, in cases established by the law of a constituent entity of the Russian Federation, the local government about the intention to sell the land plot indicating the price, size, location of the land plot and the period before the expiration of which mutual settlement should be made. The term for mutual settlements on such transactions may not be more than ninety days.
        (in the edition of the Federal Law from 18.07.2005 N 87-FZ)
        (see the text in the previous wording)
        The notice shall be handed on receipt or sent by registered letter with acknowledgment of receipt.
        3. If the subject of the Russian Federation or in accordance with the law of the subject of the Russian Federation, the municipality refuses to buy or does not notify the seller in writing of its intention to acquire the sold land within thirty days from the date of receipt of the notice, the seller has the right to sell a land plot to a third party at a price not lower than the price indicated in the notice.
        (in the edition of the Federal Law from 18.07.2005 N 87-FZ)
        (see the text in the previous wording)
        When selling a land plot at a price lower than the previously stated price or with a change in other material terms of the contract, the seller must send a new notice in accordance with the rules established by this article.
        4. A transaction for the sale of a land plot made in violation of the preemptive right to purchase is void.
        (item 4 in the edition of the Federal law from 18.07.2005 N 87-ФЗ)
        (see the text in the previous wording)
        1. Insurgent
          Insurgent April 29 2020 10: 22 New
          +4
          Quote: atalef
          Why are we breaking spears?

          Yes indeed what , why break spears in vain, it's better on the forehead of the provocateur who pulls the snake over the hedgehog, "dropping" subtle nuance, in the fact that in the "square" this law opens up the possibility of buying land by foreigners (companies).

          And in the Russian law this paragraph is NOT.

          So, again, the bats are lying ...
          1. alexmach
            alexmach April 29 2020 10: 34 New
            -4
            "omitting" a tiny nuance, in the fact that in the "square" this law opens up the possibility of buying land by foreigners (companies)

            Seriously? But in Russia does not open? And can you now ask for a reference to the texts of the law, where do you show this difference? And let's see which of us pulls on what.
          2. alexmach
            alexmach April 29 2020 10: 44 New
            -2
            I will help, look a little for you
            for example, article 3 of the same Russian law you don’t know about (and since when did ignorance become an argument?).
            Article 3. The rights of foreign citizens, foreign legal entities, stateless persons, as well as legal entities, in the charter (share) capital of which the share of foreign citizens, foreign legal entities, stateless persons is more than 50 percent, on land plots from agricultural land destination

            So which of us pulls what and what? Take the trouble to argue, with reference to the laws, as they themselves requested.
            1. Insurgent
              Insurgent April 29 2020 10: 57 New
              +2
              Quote: alexmach

              So which of us pulls what and what?

              Yes, and you pull, but it does not climb ...

              A point with significant restrictions for foreign buyers, which are completely absent in the Ukrainian Law.

              But you pull-pull, and suddenly someone will buy your stuffing yes

              Article 3. The rights of foreign citizens, foreign legal entities, stateless persons, as well as legal entities, in the charter (share) capital of which the share of foreign citizens, foreign legal entities, stateless persons is more than 50 percent, on land plots from agricultural land destination
              1. alexmach
                alexmach April 29 2020 11: 06 New
                -2
                A point with significant restrictions for foreign buyers, which are completely absent in the Ukrainian Law.

                Really? And why didn’t you bring a link to the law? They demanded of me like that. Below painted on the points. In Ukraine, even after the adoption of the law, there are more restrictions on foreigners than in Russia.
          3. alexmach
            alexmach April 29 2020 10: 49 New
            -2
            better on the forehead of the provocateur who pulls the snake over the hedgehog, "lowering"

            So which of us is a provocateur and what and whose forehead will we break and dear?
          4. atalef
            atalef April 29 2020 10: 49 New
            -1
            Quote: Insurgent
            Yes, indeed, why break spears in vain, it's better on the forehead of a provocateur who pulls a snake over a hedgehog, "dropping" a tiny nuance, that in the "independent" this law opens the possibility of buying land by foreigners (companies).

            And in the Russian law this paragraph is NOT.

            So, again, the bats are lying ...

            again in a puddle of salmon?
            Are foreigners and companies with foreign capital prohibited from owning land in Russia?
            1. Insurgent
              Insurgent April 29 2020 11: 00 New
              +3
              Quote: atalef
              Are foreigners and companies with foreign capital prohibited from owning land in Russia?

              No way ... The restrictions in the law seriously cut them in this, the restrictions of which are now no longer in your decayed dill tongue
      2. Moon
        Moon April 29 2020 10: 48 New
        -1
        Quote: Insurgent
        Quote: alexmach
        Doesn’t it bother you that the exact same law, in the same form in which it will enter into force in Ukraine in 2024, has been in force in Russia since the 90s?

        It is embarrassing that, for example, I do not know about such a law in the Russian Federation, but you did not bother to indicate its name or give a link ...

        The RF Law of 23.12.92 "On the Right of Citizens to Receive into Private Ownership and to Sell Land Plots for Personal, Auxiliary, Country Households and Gardening" - it says directly that citizens who have received land plots in their ownership can sell them. The Decree of the President of Russia dated October 27.10.93, 1767 N 30.05.93 "On the regulation of land relations and the development of agrarian reform in Russia" confirms that the owner of a land plot has the right to sell, donate, inherit it, lease it or pledge it, as well as deposit it in as a contribution to the statutory funds of business companies and partnerships. The turnover of land plots by decree is regulated by civil legislation, taking into account land legislation. And, finally, the decree of the Government of the Russian Federation of 503 N XNUMX "On the approval of the procedure for the purchase and sale of land plots by citizens of the Russian Federation" regulates the procedure for the sale of land plots for summer cottages, personal, subsidiary farming and gardening. This document has approved the model sales contract
        Quote: Insurgent
        a tiny nuance, in the fact that in "independent" this law opens up the possibility of buying land by foreigners (companies).

        And in the Russian law this paragraph is NOT.

        In the Russian Federation
        Foreign citizens, foreign legal entities, stateless persons, as well as legal entities in whose charter capital the share of foreign citizens, foreign legal entities, stateless persons is more than 50%, can only rent agricultural land. At the same time, foreigners can virtually unlimitedly acquire land through the acquisition of ownership of shares (shares) in the right of common ownership of land plots consisting of agricultural land. Foreigners may own any number of shares in the common ownership right to an agricultural plot, except for the last part.
        In Ukraine after this adoption of the law
        the document will enter into force on July 1, 2021;
        the first two years only land citizens of Ukraine and no more than 100 hectares in one hand will be able to buy land;
        after that - the next two years, Ukrainian legal entities will be able to buy land, as the basic model assumes, no more than 10 thousand hectares in one hand;
        lands of agricultural significance of state and communal property will not be sold;
        sale to foreigners - after a referendum.
        PS..oh, these clips ...
        why is it so hard to look in google?
        1. alexmach
          alexmach April 29 2020 11: 01 New
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          PS..oh, these clips ...
          why is it so hard to look in google?

          because for the hooray patriots the facts do not matter, only "Hooray!" Yes Comrade Insurgent and others?

          PS: you still didn’t remember about the territory of the Advance Development ... there, in the Far East, they say, it is still more interesting.
          1. Insurgent
            Insurgent April 29 2020 15: 41 New
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            Quote: alexmach
            Yes comrade Insurgent and others?

            Quote: alexmach
            PS: you still did not remember about the territory of the Advanced Development


            Yes yes Comrade Insurgent, just in such an Advanced Recreation Area Great Russia
            ... in the DNI.
            1. alexmach
              alexmach April 29 2020 16: 43 New
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              And how does this "stretch" in your mind on the topic under discussion?
      3. Normal ok
        Normal ok April 29 2020 23: 05 New
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        Quote: Insurgent
        It is embarrassing that, for example, I do not know about such a law in the Russian Federation

        Ignorance of the laws does not exempt laughing
    2. DMoroz
      DMoroz April 29 2020 11: 02 New
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      Dzhony and Tomy (non-citizens of the Russian Federation and law firms with foreign share participation of more than 50%) we cannot buy agricultural land, subsoil plots, continental shelf plots, forest fund plots, a maximum of rent (and even then under certain conditions and territories). And if the activity on it, stated in the lease, does not comply with them, they can terminate the contract ...
      And in the border areas and seaports, a complete ban on the sale of any land to John and Tom is ...
  • Million
    Million April 29 2020 10: 04 New
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    Capitalism in all its glory
  • CommanderDIVA
    CommanderDIVA April 29 2020 10: 10 New
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    From the media: "A moratorium on the sale of agricultural land was introduced in Ukraine in 2001 - two years before a similar moratorium was lifted in Russia. Before the reform, Ukraine remained one of six countries in the world that did not have a free land market, along with with North Korea, Tajikistan, Congo, Venezuela and Cuba "- the land is one of the last assets of Ukraine on the international market, in my opinion 26% of the fertile land in the world, various investors will invest in the Ukrainian agricultural sector, and we will also compete
  • Gennady Fomkin
    Gennady Fomkin April 29 2020 10: 19 New
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    Quote: CommanderDIVA
    From the media: "A moratorium on the sale of agricultural land was introduced in Ukraine in 2001 - two years before a similar moratorium was lifted in Russia. Before the reform, Ukraine remained one of six countries in the world that did not have a free land market, along with with North Korea, Tajikistan, Congo, Venezuela and Cuba "- the land is one of the last assets of Ukraine on the international market, in my opinion 26% of the fertile land in the world, various investors will invest in the Ukrainian agricultural sector, and we will also compete

    I want to tell you a terrible secret regarding land trade. )))

    Agricultural lands here are called c-lands and they have been rented for 20 years already (it was impossible to buy something, so all convenient and fertile tracts were leased from 50 to 99 years).

    Some of these lands are leased by Ukrainians, some by foreigners (through fake Ukrainians), but the land market is almost completely divided. Only now, the rent is from a couple of bags of maple to a couple of tens or hundreds of dollars per hectare (depending on who is rented from a peasant, or from an official))))). To the state, essno does not fall from these schemes.

    So the state wants to fuck something for the land and adopts this law. First of all, local tenants themselves oppose him, because they will have to pay for the rented land not a couple of dollars, but a couple of millions (at market prices). It is clear that part of the proceeding megabytes is quietly plundered, but then you will have to pay a tax for the property in the land, and here the state will receive a stable stream of dough. )))

    And foreigners are not particularly focused on the land here. They have enough in Europeans and so, but it was not in vain that when the EU was created, they cleared cx Italy, Greece and other Portuguese.

    That's something like this approximately. laughing
  • Vasyan1971
    Vasyan1971 April 29 2020 10: 19 New
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    This is a historic moment for all Ukrainians and for me personally. Ukraine has been waiting for this law since independence.

    Really. Historical. From time immemorial, the Germans poured their blood and foreign blood to get to the Ukrainian land, but it turned out that they just had to promise a tranche ... Although, on the other hand, the evil Russians did not allow it, but Ukraine gained independence and the fairy tale came true.
  • Pvi1206
    Pvi1206 April 29 2020 10: 54 New
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    Zelensky continues the policy of the previous government - to tear the country ... he became a puppet ... and he was not given another ...
  • faterdom
    faterdom April 29 2020 12: 07 New
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    Not a sucker, immediately see! But those who voted for him - this is an almost obvious question.
  • orionvitt
    orionvitt April 29 2020 12: 10 New
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    We will get immediately to the budget of Ukraine, not to the NBU (National Bank - approx.)
    Of course, it’s more convenient to cut directly from the budget. The scheme is long established. laughing
  • Gennady Fomkin
    Gennady Fomkin April 29 2020 12: 11 New
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    Quote: faterdom
    Not a sucker, immediately see! But those who voted for him - this is an almost obvious question.

    Even worse laughing
  • Bare
    Bare April 29 2020 12: 27 New
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    Bitch lured. am
  • Junior Private
    Junior Private April 29 2020 12: 36 New
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    Quote: Gennady Fomkin
    I want to tell you a terrible secret regarding land trade. )))
    .....
    So the state wants to fuck something for the land and adopts this law. First of all, local tenants themselves oppose him, because they will have to pay for the rented land not a couple of dollars, but a couple of millions (at market prices). It is clear that part of the proceeds megabytes is quietly plundered, but then you will have to pay a tax for the land in the property, and here the state will receive a stable flow

    Things are a little different here:
    1. In order not to grow on the ground, in order to make a profit, it must be SELL, which is not at all easy in a very tough market. Ukrainians are already living in the skin of "Europe" in the field of food export - quotas are immediately emptied (they are already minimal), and since there is nowhere to put the rest of the products, no one bothers with seeding companies next year. From which it follows:
    2. Agricultural land will cost a penny and taxes from it to the budget, especially not collect it. Nobody needs black soil, except in cases:
    3. When TNCs get down to business, managing the "invisible hand of the market" - this is a worldwide practice in democratically preoccupied countries. In any case, the land will be bought for next to nothing, followed by lobbying for quotas and other market mechanisms. But the most interesting thing here is completely different:
    4. What place will Ukraine pay for loans?
  • Curbstone xnumx
    Curbstone xnumx April 29 2020 12: 44 New
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    Fly - buy. But they will sell to anyone, but not to Russia
    1. iouris
      iouris April 29 2020 14: 02 New
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      Quote: Curbstone 24
      will be sold to anyone, but not to Russia

      So this is Russian land for sale. David defeated Goliath.
    2. DMoroz
      DMoroz April 29 2020 21: 34 New
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      there is takakabeda that agroessor can’t sell anything ...
  • iouris
    iouris April 29 2020 13: 15 New
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    Here is a lesson to the Russian heroes who defended their native land: this land can be privatized and sold.
  • Fantazer911
    Fantazer911 April 29 2020 13: 35 New
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    What did they strive for? Here it is freedom from Russia, frostbitten ears to evil grandmother, no one has not abolished slavery, they sold the land and then they themselves will be humped for three pennies for uncle!
    Live Ukraine!
    1. iouris
      iouris April 29 2020 23: 47 New
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      Quote: Fantazer911
      Here it is freedom from Russia

      This is not freedom from Russia, but its sale. Down and Out trouble started.
  • Kushka
    Kushka April 29 2020 13: 48 New
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    And what, in fact, is the question? Noise because of what?
    I apologize, but again I will start from 1651 (Khmelnitsky,
    Pereyaslovskaya Rada), I just don’t know further
    not friends with history at school. Total -370 years.
    And to whom only these lands did not belong!
    Donbass - Yuzov - did he rent it or own it?
    Elvorti Brothers (Elisavetgrad) -English
    mother-in-law took priymaki, or how, when they built their plants
    in the center of Ukraine Mother tsarina in the same place to Serbs
    cut for service to the Fatherland .. Count Potocki in Uman for Sofia
    his - the raider in your opinion was probably - "squeezed the land unaccounted for
    the way "For Reni, Vilkovo, Chernivtsi, Mukachevo, Khust - I am silent.
    CIRCLE OF THE EARTH IN NATURE so to speak.
    Half a thousand years, every meter of land from Rostov to Warsaw,
    from Evpatoria to Chuguev hundreds of times bought, sold,
    playing cards (Gogol to help you)
    Lenin and Trotsky gave the floor of Ukraine in Brest to the Germans for free.
    According to the Riga Treaty of 1920, Petliura bastard himself signed Zluka
    and then, half a year later, he gave everything back to Poland, right up to Sinyuhi and Bug.
    ATTENTION QUESTION: Ukraine disappeared? No, you feel
    and then listen to you, so the Tunguska meteorite near Kiev fell ..
  • Klmn
    Klmn April 29 2020 15: 42 New
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    I don’t know, in Latvia, at first, the land was returned to those who had these plots before Soviet Latvia, then they were just sold to citizens, then citizens sawed wood and sold, and now, as I know, many sawn land was sold to the Swedes. The Swedes, without steaming, planted those lands with fir and pine trees. Now, after 50 years, the Swedes will be able to cut the forest ...
    As for sowing, the economy is not profitable, well, in any case in Latgale, the earth is clay, there are enough stones, and it’s hilly, not plain.
    Well, taking into account EU quotas, and in those areas where it was profitable to sow and reap, it was not profitable.
    In Ukraine, as I understand it, a large amount of land is black earth?
  • Alexfly
    Alexfly April 29 2020 15: 43 New
    +1
    Well, here, grandmother and Yuryev (Volodimir) day. Now, the tired and laconic Texas landowners are bought by Ukrainian arable land. All that Natsiki dreamed of from the Vaterland came true .... Farewell, Motherland, now the slaves will bend their backs even more strongly on the lords. Decommunization on the face and rotting corns on the hands .. A pity ...
  • Lord of the Sith
    Lord of the Sith April 29 2020 15: 53 New
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    Bought for two pieces of sausage.
  • Mabius
    Mabius April 29 2020 16: 11 New
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    Well, that’s all the Outskirts have already been completely sold offal ...
    Now Ukraine is completely free of charge ..
  • NF68
    NF68 April 29 2020 16: 40 New
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    With good initiative, Hospodin President of independent Ukraine.
  • Moon
    Moon April 29 2020 17: 41 New
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    a bunch of comments, provide links with laws, indicating if the situation is not the same with the Russian Federation, then a similar one, but it’s not so bad, foreigners cannot be in the Russian Federation and it became possible to turn out in Ukraine ..
    It is very strange that the law says just what is impossible, only to Ukrainians. That is, even stricter than in the Russian Federation.
    But cheers to the patriots facts .. that the elephant is grainy. The main leitmotif of #HotitekakvUkraine and #VUkrainehuzhevse
    a priori it is impossible to argue that beads are in front of pigs (saying)
    They are facts, and they are cheers, and cons. They have laws, and they are her - we are sure that it is worse there.
    Faith is blind. Science is powerless against her.
  • APASUS
    APASUS April 29 2020 19: 25 New
    +1
    Well done Zelibob!
    He secured a golden age. I didn’t know that our traitor Gorbachev has a younger brother in Ukraine?
  • LeonidL
    LeonidL April 29 2020 19: 29 New
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    Scho bude, scho bude? Use sold out, de pennies are bound, goodness? How did they live? Well, paramog! IMF to give pennies, quickly on their ticks and hto tudy ticks!
  • tolmachiev51
    tolmachiev51 April 30 2020 04: 15 New
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    The result of "independence" !!! Appreciate the "help" of the gay European and especially the regional committee "friends"! They will strip, undress and let them go around the world. Now talk about the "growth" of GDP.