Grot program: Poland awaiting grenade launchers


One of the potential participants of the Grot program for the supply of light anti-tank grenade launchers for the needs of the Polish Army has been announced. Recall that not just delivery is expected weapons, and the establishment of the process of its production in Poland.


The Bulgarian company Vazovsky Engineering Plant announced its desire to participate in the program. This is one of the oldest enterprises in Bulgaria, specializing in the production of artillery ammunition. At one time, the plant produced weapons for the needs of the Third Reich, and today it works for the needs of NATO.

As you know, Bulgaria has long been specializing in the production of hand-held anti-tank grenade launchers, which are modifications of the famous RPG-7 and RPG-22. The production process of grenade launchers and other light weapons was established when Bulgaria was a member of the Warsaw Pact Organization. The socialist bloc collapsed, and the production of weapons in Bulgaria remained.

Only now, "little brothers" began to serve completely different customers - from the security forces of Afghanistan and Iraq, which were created under the strict patronage of the United States, to the Syrian radical groups. At least, much is written about this in open sources. Now Bulgaria can act as a supplier of grenade launchers for the Polish Army. Compared with the jihadists of Syria, the Polish military is probably not the worst option.


Modification of the RPG-22 BULSPIKE proposed under the Grot program has undergone a number of changes. It has become more ergonomic, combined with modern sighting devices. The weight of the grenade launcher is only 3,4 kg, together with the 72,5 mm PG-22 shell. The weight of the projectile is 1,5 kg. It takes off at an initial speed of 133 meters per second. At the same time, you can shoot at 350 meters, but you can use weapons inside the building. For 8-10 seconds, the grenade launcher can be put on alert. It is reusable, but the reboot does not need to be done in the military unit, but in an enterprise that has the appropriate license.

Grot program: Poland awaiting grenade launchers

The upgraded version should be put into mass production in 2020. It is planned to equip a grenade launcher with an anti-tank warhead, increase the firing range to 500 meters, but the weight of the launcher itself will also increase. Although the line of 4 kg grenade launcher does not pass, which is very good.


The Bulgarian company signed a memorandum of cooperation with the Polish company Telesystem-Mesko, located in Lubichev, near the Polish capital of Warsaw. This company is known for its developments in the field of aiming and guidance systems. Thus, it is planned to completely “polonize” the production of Bulgarian grenade launchers for their subsequent delivery to the Polish Army.

Polish engineers plan to integrate Polish aiming systems with a Bulgarian grenade launcher, creating such a peculiar Polish-Bulgarian hybrid of weapons. The situation is greatly facilitated by the fact that Bulgaria and Poland are members of both NATO and the EU, that is, there are at least obstacles and restrictions between them for the development of defense cooperation.

In addition to the anti-tank grenade launcher, Bulgaria is ready to offer Polish enterprises cooperation in the field of creating laser-guided munitions and unmanned aerial vehicles, which is why the Grot program can be considered a kind of pilot project, the success of which will further depend on the cooperation of the Bulgarian and Polish military industries for the needs of the Polish Army.
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  1. Victor_B April 29 2020 07: 49 New
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    Alas...
    Brothers, they are ... brothers ...
    You can say as much as you like that the PEOPLE of Bulgaria treats Russia well.
    But, in fact, the GOVERNMENT spoils Russia as and wherever it can.
    Only Poland and Tribaltica are more eager to spoil.
    1. Insurgent April 29 2020 08: 03 New
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      Modification of the RPG-22 BULSPIKE proposed under the Grot program has undergone a number of changes. It has become more ergonomic, combined with modern sighting devices. The weight of the grenade launcher is only 3,4 kg, along with the 72,5 mm PG-22 shell. The weight of the projectile is 1,5 kg. It takes off at an initial speed of 133 meters per second. In this case, you can shoot at 350 meters, but you can use weapons inside the building. For 8-10 seconds, the grenade launcher can be put on alert. It is reusable, but the reboot does not need to be done in the military unit, but in an enterprise that has the appropriate license.


      What a nonsense what (emphasized in the text of the quote) ... RPG, in fact, although "resettable," in battle is disposable(I’m not sure that in the confusion someone will collect and store the shot tubes), and there’s also a “modern sighting device” on it, which takes time to remove ...

      Or will each tube be included with this sight, and must be sent to "reboot" with it?

      Is it expensive and hemorrhagic?
    2. Insurgent April 29 2020 08: 46 New
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      Quote: Victor_B
      Only Poland and Tribaltica are more eager to spoil.

      And not Ukraine?
      1. Victor_B April 29 2020 08: 49 New
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        Quote: Insurgent
        And not Ukraine?

        It is easier with Ukraine.
        The Nazis are in power.
        But in Bulgaria there is no fascism.
        1. Insurgent April 29 2020 08: 54 New
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          Quote: Victor_B
          It is easier with Ukraine.
          The Nazis are in power.
          But in Bulgaria there is no fascism.

          With the outskirts "easier" in what? Just identifying her as a Nazi state actively opposing Russia?

          So Bulgaria, after all, as a member of NATO, also opposes Russia, but while passively...
          1. Victor_B April 29 2020 08: 57 New
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            Quote: Insurgent
            With the outskirts "easier" in what?

            Easier - in the sense of more understandable.
            In power, the Nazis continue with all the stops.
            And what is Bulgaria jumping ahead of the engine?
            No, it’s understandable, they kiss the Americans in the ass, but where is she “thanks to Russia”?
            Somehow I didn’t articulate it ...
            Somehow even a pity. Either them, or us. Naive ...
            1. Insurgent April 29 2020 09: 02 New
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              but where is she "grateful to Russia"?

              "Gratitude to Russia" - Bulgaria for being in TWO World War was on the side of the opponents of Russia-the USSR?
              Or is it that the Bulgarians forgotten their deliverance by Russia of the Ottoman yoke during the Russian-Turkish wars?
              Quote: Victor_B
              Easier - in the sense of more understandable.


              Apparently, it is not very clear what to do with the outskirts? At least not clear and not clear to the leadership of the Russian Federation, at least at the present stage ...
              1. Victor_B April 29 2020 09: 06 New
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                But for some reason I feel sorry.
                Some Bulgarians are restless.
          2. pytar April 29 2020 10: 06 New
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            So Bulgaria, after all, as a member of NATO, also opposes Russia, but so far passively ...

            What are the "confrontations"? Bulgaria refused to accept the American missile defense system on its territory, refused to participate in the formed Black Sea flotilla of NATO countries, Georgia and Ukraine, stated that it does not plan to allow the construction of American bases on its territory, allowed the transportation of the Russian s-400 to the exercises in Serbia, and much more, list it will turn out interesting ... For their persistence on important issues, some call Bulgaria the "Trojan horse of Russia" in NATO. Bulgarian policy in NATO in relation to Russia can be defined as "reasonable opposition" to the union’s anti-Russian actions. By the way, according to analyzes of western agencies, the population of Bulgaria leads in sympathy for Russia in the EU. hi
            1. Insurgent April 29 2020 10: 17 New
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              Quote: pytar
              According to Western agency analyzes, the population of Bulgaria leads in sympathy for Russia in the EU

              Sympathy? Good yes , take a look at the photo, this is Saur-grave before and after the outbreak of war in 2014, the place is now twice holy for Donbass:

              Before the war:



              After the battles for height in 2014:




              Can you, Bulgarians, demonstrate such a human, popular memory at the Shipka monument?
              1. pytar April 29 2020 10: 36 New
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                Can you, Bulgarians, demonstrate such a human, popular memory at the Shipka monument?

                Your koment demonstrates how little you know about the real situation in Bulgaria! I am not surprised, because I am aware of what distorted “picture” they represent in Russian media. Here is the real Bulgaria! hi




                On March 3 this year, the country was under quarantine, and the weather on Shipki was bad, but events were held anyway, the president was also present.

                Unfortunately, I rarely see Russian tourists on Shipki. Sunbathing on our beaches, hundreds of thousands, for some reason, do not bother to go to Shipka, put flowers in the memory of their ancestors! Distances in Bulgaria are small, from the sea to Shipka only an hour and a half - two by car!
                1. Insurgent April 29 2020 10: 40 New
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                  Quote: pytar
                  Here is the real Bulgaria!


                  And the flag of Russia that liberated you, is only one, "drowning" in the Bulgarian ...

                  Quote: pytar
                  was present and the president

                  Real Bulgaria? Judge by what? For business, or for presence on on duty event for him?
                  1. pytar April 29 2020 11: 08 New
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                    And the flag of Russia that liberated you, is only one, "drowning" in the Bulgarian ...

                    For some, the bowl is half-full, and for others, half-empty ... laughing
                    Here is a video that gives an idea of ​​the attitude of the Bulgarian people towards the Russians. The Russian delegation is greeted with applause ... for the difference from the representatives of the Bulgarians. authorities ... but these are our internal affairs.

                    Just in case, Bulgarians are patriots of their country! Normally, Bulgarian flags, our national holiday! yes
                    By the way, there are DNRs ... I can show a lot of photos, but there is a limitation in the downloads to VO.









                    In Bulgaria, people freely show their sympathy! hi
                    1. Insurgent April 29 2020 11: 20 New
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                      Quote: pytar
                      In Bulgaria, people freely show their sympathy!


                      In the Second World War, being an ally of Hitler, Bulgaria, these sympathies did not prevent the assistance of the Wehrmacht by Bulgarian sanitary-hospital trains.

                      Now Bulgaria is in NATO, again in a camp hostile to Russia ...
                      1. pytar April 29 2020 11: 43 New
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                        In the Second World War, being an ally of Hitler, Bulgaria, these sympathies did not prevent the assistance of the Wehrmacht by Bulgarian sanitary-hospital trains.

                        I already know by heart, theses Bulgarianophobes in RuNet. He answered many times, I’m fed up with something ...
                        Bulgaria during the Second World War supported the norms. diplomatic relations with the USSR and did not participate in the war on the East. front! The sanitary train is one with 27 medical personnel. Sent through the international Red Cross! For information, Switzerland sent 4! They had the right to go on both sides of the front, but the USSR did not let them in. In Bulgarian prisoners of war were also treated. Since September 44, 300 thousand. the Bulgarian army fought to the east. front against the Wehrmacht, eliminating 280 thousand. Germans killed and surrendered in captivity! Commander-in-Chief Bolg. Army Gen. Vl. Stoychev participated in the Victory Parade on Red Square!
                        Now Bulgaria is in NATO, again in a camp hostile to Russia ...

                        Insurgent, Bulgaria became a member of NATO in 2004, when relations with Russia were quite good! That the bad ones are not our fault. Yes, and I suspect that these will not remain for long ...
                      2. Insurgent April 29 2020 11: 52 New
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                        Insurgent, Bulgaria became a member of NATO in 2004, when relations with Russia were quite good!

                        What ... At the peak of good relations with the Russian Federation, did you join NATO in 2004 with the goal of further improving them?

                        Quote: pytar
                        That the bad ones are not our fault.


                        You entered the military bloc with the intention to confront Russia, and do not realize the blame for the deterioration of relations?

                        Who is to blame then? "It's not my fault, he came "?

                      3. pytar April 29 2020 12: 16 New
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                        At the peak of good relations with Russia, did you join NATO in 2004 with the goal of further improving them?

                        Until 2014, Russia was actively friends with NATO! Participated in all affiliate programs! Then there was no objection from the Russian Federation! Look, the GDP has spoken out on this occasion!
                        You entered the military bloc with the intention to confront Russia, and do not realize the blame for the deterioration of relations?

                        Ha ha ha What is the fault of Bulgaria that you have 10 years later, relations have worsened ?! By the way, and now the BG and the Russian Federation have quite good relations!
                        Who is to blame then? "It's not my fault, he came"?

                        Insurgent ... are you sure everything is all right ...? belay
            2. smile April 30 2020 01: 01 New
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              Hello.
              Basically, you’re right ... yeah ... there are so many people on your videos .... dofigische ... I talked with the Bulgarians, whom I saw - they say the same thing as you .... but, aphid It is not clear how it turns out that Bulgaria is a member of NATO, how it turns out. that in the two biggest wars of the 20th century, Bulgaria - sided with our enemies?
              I love and respect the Bulgarians ... among those with whom I talked, I did not find a single Russophobe ... even here, on this site there were only a couple of pieces .... but it’s really annoying not even that you got into NATO - annoying - that you got into NATO, got into the European Union - yell about that. it’s not comfortable there .... and .... your leadership adheres to a completely Russophobic policy .... and they choose it ...
              the population of Bulgaria chooses, well, there is no one else to choose ....
              in free elections ....
              so mean what? The population of Bulgaria is completely Russophobic, and only rare guys like you and those you showed in the photographs feel at least some gratitude to us?
              And yes - we need her for your gratitude. however, like no one else - we would like not to be spoiled by us, like, for example, the Poles, not to blame Konev like the Czechs ... sort of and we demand a little ... what do you think?
              Come on, I will not continue the topic, and you will think about what I said ... and then .... if you want, answer.
              Goodbye.
              1. pytar April 30 2020 10: 05 New
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                Hello Vladimir! hi
                Here you ask a few questions that I constantly meet on ru-forums and in personal communication with Russians! The seeming paradoxes in relations between Russia and Bulgaria, whose people are close, kindred, friendly, actually have a completely logical explanation! You just need to know the facts, chronology, cause-effect relationships of events, and 99% of Russians do not know them! The propaganda in rus-media, totally distorting reality, is largely to blame. There is propaganda in Bolgalia, but here the situation is completely different, the peculiarities of the national mentality protect the Bulgarians from its influence at a much higher level. The fact of bulgarized Bulgarian-phobic propaganda in Russia is even stated by Bulgarian Russophiles! In Bulgaria, from the 90s the most massive NGO is the Bulgarian National Movement Russofily. In no other country is there anything comparable in scale; in Serbia, such an organization appeared recently. Here is one example, by the way a bunch of them! A letter of appeal to the President of the Russian Federation - Vladimir Putin:
                http://www.prezidentpress.ru/news/3866-otkrytoe-pismo-prezidentu-rf-vv-putinu-kto-zastavil-rossiyskie-smi-vbit-klin-v-rossiysko-bolgarskuyu-druzhbu.html
                Here's more:
                http://www.stoletie.ru/slavyanskoe_pole/bolgarija_rusofily_i_rusofoby_133.htm
                Farther:
                I love and respect the Bulgarians ... among those with whom I talked, I did not find a single Russophobe ... even here, on this site there were only a couple of pieces ...

                We have real Russophobes, probably in the whole country no more than a hundred. Well, there are some among the Bulgarian Turks. There is not one in VO. Our people rely on verbal aggression and provocations, which are here in bulk. So, in Bulgaria there are people with the right convictions, they do not like communism and Stalin, but they love Russians. There are those who did not like the reactionary nature of the Russian empire, they are anti-monarchists, people with leftist convictions, they also love Russians! In Russia, for some reason, they are all called "Russophobes"! According to this "logic" it is necessary to announce the majority of Russian Russophobes! Yes?

                how it turns out. that in the two biggest wars of the 20th century, Bulgaria - sided with our enemies?

                Here is an honest answer on a period to 1VM given to Konstantin Gaivoronsky:
                https://www.vedomosti.ru/opinion/articles/2017/10/20/738689-bratushki-bratoubiitsami
                Another objective article:
                https://sinatistis.wordpress.com/2017/06/10/rusbulrelations19/
                According to 2MB, it seems that the situation with Bulgaria in modern Russia is, in general, the apotheosis of propaganda! Many times I have given lengthy comments on VO with facts! I will write max. short!
                In WW2, Bulgaria has been resolving issues since 1878, which could not be resolved during the 1-2 Balkan and WWII wars! Free the territories with the compact Bulgarian population, occupied by Serbia, Greece and Romania! Moreover, she did everything possible so as not to take part in the war against the USSR! Incredible, but it succeeded! Bulgaria and the USSR supported the norms. diplomatic relations for the whole war! And since 1, the Bulgarian army actively fought against the Wehrmacht! It was the second largest foreign military group allied with the Red Army to the east. front!
                http://varyadavydova.com/bolgariya-vo-vtoroj-mirovoj-vojne/
                https://istorex.ru/page/mikhneva_r_v_etoy_pamyati_net_agressii_no_est_bol_i_pechal_iz-za_neznaniya_gde_nakhodyatsya_mogili_tvoikh_predkov
                http://www.segodnia.ru/content/176729
                http://varyadavydova.com/dolzhna-li-nam-bolgariya/
                http://www.warandpeace.ru/ru/commentaries/view/112642/



                that you got into NATO, got into the European Union - yell about that. it’s not comfortable there ....

                1. Bulgaria joined NATO in 2004 (14 years after the collapse of the ATS), at a time when Aliance and the Russian Federation were friends, partnered, relations were excellent! Why did we end up in NATO? 82% of the population was against it, I myself went to rallies. But ... I was wrong! Why? Because, after the 90s, my country fell into a very difficult internal and foreign political situation! Since the 80s we had an ethnic time bomb! Local Turks shook, and next to 80 million Turkey and all of NATO! Yugoslavia blazed, the Russian Federation did not help her in any way! Bulgaria went bankrupt from socialism, the economy was in ruins, debts exceeded GDP 1,5-2 times! Bulgaria, which was half a century loyal to the USSR ally, turned out to be among the defeated countries in the bloodless 3MB! And we did not have a single ally! We urgently needed a respite! Joining NATO turned out to be uncontested! It was in the interest of the country!
                As for the EU, everything is clear here! The benefits for the country are huge! EU essentially save Bulgaria! The economy has recovered, revenues have grown, the treasury is filled with money! Now the majority of the population (2/3) support the EU!
                we would like not to be crap on us, like, for example, the Poles, not to blame Konev, like the Czechs ... sort of and we demand a little ... what do you think?

                Your claims about Polsha, Czech Republic are justified. But to Bulgaria they have no reason! Your propaganda puts everyone under the same denominator, while deliberately skipping facts indicating an obvious difference! There are hundreds of them, but in rus-media ... not a word! They are trumpeting that "in Bulgaria they abused Soviet monuments," when a nerd in the darkness of the night sprayed something there !! They do not mention that in Bulgaria there are more than 530 monuments in honor of Russia / USSR and not one has been demolished! They do not say that almost every year we build new ones! Where in what other country is this? They do not say that the Bulgarian state is spending millions of euros to support these monuments! Why do they choose only negative things, but are they silent about the positive ones, which are hundreds of times more?
                I got a very lengthy answer, I'm sorry! If you are interested, go to my account, there are more than my 4000 reasoned answers to all your potential questions!
                I wish you and all Russians peace, good luck and most importantly - enlightenment! hi Ignorance is the mother of all sins!
                1. smile 1 May 2020 01: 57 New
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                  Thank. I don’t like everything from what you said. Although much seems objective ....
                  But overall - fine ....
                  I won’t say that your words greatly influenced my opinion ... but I respect you - for sure ...
                  So it goes....
                  1. pytar 1 May 2020 10: 34 New
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                    Thank. I don’t like everything from what you said. Although much seems objective ....

                    And I do not like everything, but I must honestly tell the truth! Thank you too, Vladimir! hi
                    I won’t say that your words greatly influenced my opinion ... but I respect you - for sure ...

                    Opinion is always difficult to change, even when obvious facts command. Human psychology is like that. I respect you too, because only with mutual respect does dialogue make sense! hi
  • pytar April 29 2020 09: 06 New
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    ... Bulgarian company "Vazovsky Engineering Plant" .... At one time, the plant produced weapons for the needs of the Third Reich ....

    Reading such wildly incorrect hints, I am left with the impression that anti-Bulgarian propaganda is being deliberately and purposefully conducted in VO! VSW was opened on July 12, 1940 and began production of German technology and licenses for fuses, hand grenades, 22 mm high-explosive fragmentation shells, 75 mm shells, 105 mm shells and 122 mm howitzer shells, for the Bulgarian army, which was armed with these systems! Production was insufficient in quantity even to satisfy their own needs; no export was carried out in Germany or other countries! At that time, Bulgaria was experiencing an acute shortage of munitions, in warehouses there were shells for exercises. It was not possible to produce and accumulate the required quantity until September 44, due to the lack of production fraud and materials. Therefore, when the Bulgarian army, after September 44, entered the war on the side of the anti-Hitler coalition, the Soviet Union handed over to the Bulgarians weapons with which 5 Bulgarian divisions were fully equipped.
    But, in fact, the GOVERNMENT spoils Russia as and wherever it can. Only Poland and Tribaltica are more eager to spoil.

    This is also a propaganda myth replicated in rus-media. For what purpose ... topic for another discussion ... hi
    You can say as much as you like that the PEOPLE of Bulgaria treats Russia well.

    Not only the people, but also in all Bulgarian parties, there are forces related to Russia quite friendly. In Parliament, even in the government! The frankly pro-Russian party "Attack" is now part of the ruling coalition!
    1. Insurgent April 29 2020 09: 13 New
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      Reading such wildly incorrect hints, I am left with the impression that anti-Bulgarian propaganda is being deliberately and purposefully conducted in the VO!

      The presence of ammunition and weapons produced in Bulgaria by ISIS fighters, national battalions of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, is also referred to as "anti-Bulgarian propaganda", or will follow balanced, devoid of emotions, reasoned answer ?

      And saypytar (Boyan Ivanov) , how did you react so quickly to the appearance of an article about Bulgaria, do you have a nose for such articles?
      1. Victor_B April 29 2020 09: 16 New
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        And tell me, pytar (Boyan Ivanov), how did you react so quickly to the appearance of an article about Bulgaria, do you have a nose?

        In fact, he is a frequent commentator on VO.
        Not hostile.
        1. Insurgent April 29 2020 09: 23 New
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          Not hostile.

          Actually, no one, including myself, accused him of hostility.
          Quote: Victor_B
          In fact, he is a frequent commentator on VO.

          I live long enough in the world to believe in random matches.

          An article with a mention of Bulgaria, at 09:06 an entrance to VO, and "clap" right Bulgarian commentator в 09:06 gives an assessment ...

          But articles about Bulgaria are not so frequent as for example about the Donbass ...
          1. Victor_B April 29 2020 09: 26 New
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            The publication of the article with reference to Bulgaria, at 09:06 entrance to VO, and immediately the Bulgarian commentator at 09:06 gives an estimate ...

            I'm so generally
            Victor_B (Victor Petrovich) 2 Today, 07:49
            Unsubscribed, but I did not wait on purpose.
            Subscribed, looked and unsubscribed.
          2. pytar April 29 2020 11: 55 New
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            Quote: Insurgent
            The publication of the article with the mention of Bulgaria, at 09:06 the entrance to the VO, and the “clap” immediately by the Bulgarian commentator at 09:06 gives an estimate ...

            Once in so many years "got on time"! laughing I’ll usually be late! By the way, you confuse something! Statiya va VO was released at 07:47 a.m. My first koment at 09:06 h., Viktor has 07:49 and yours at 08:03 !!! So I get an hour late!
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              By the way, you confuse something! The article va VO was released at 07:47 a.m. My first comment was at 09:06 a.m., Victor had 07:49, and yours was at 08:03 !!! So I get an hour late!

              But was it really about the time of publication of the article? Your entrance to VO 09:06 and a comment (rather voluminous in content), with lightning speed, without hesitation - 09:06 ...
              1. pytar April 29 2020 12: 20 New
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                Your entrance to VO 09:06 and a comment (rather voluminous in content), with lightning speed, without hesitation - 09:06 ...

                Insurgent, you are really confusing something! no I probably wrote my comment for about 5 or 10 minutes! I even drank a cup of coffee during this time! Above comments is shown not the time of writing, but the time of pressing the button [SEND COMMENT]
      2. pytar April 29 2020 10: 19 New
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        Will the presence of ammunition and weapons produced in Bulgaria by ISIS fighters, national battalions of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, also be referred to as "anti-Bulgarian propaganda", or will a balanced, devoid of emotions, reasoned answer follow?

        The first thing I want to say is the unproven hardenings from the media. Some of them are clearly unfounded. I have commented on VO more than once, I will not be repeated.
        Second, all Bulgarian weapon manufacturing companies are private. They do not sell weapons directly! But if we look at the well-known data on the recipient firms, there are most of them with non-Bulgarian names, including Russian ones. Again, I repeat - where the weapon beats up later, it is the responsibility of the buyer! There is not a single gram of emotion in my statements, I am not a shareholder of any such company and do not have any sympathy for them. laughing
        And tell me, pytar (Boyan Ivanov), how did you react so quickly to the appearance of an article about Bulgaria, do you have a nose for such articles?

        I have been at the HE since April 2013. During socialism, I was subscribed to many Soviet military-technical magazines. Usually, drinking a cup of coffee every morning, I read what's new here. It is clear, first of all, I am interested in topics related to my country. Fine!
        Looking at the Russian info-resources, I note that in relation to Bulgaria, from a few years, there is a clear tendentiousness, subjectivity, I’ll say frankly - a Bulgarian -ophobic campaign is underway! What is it connected with, a question for another discussion ... I have my own theory. I say with sadness how a person is vitally connected with Russia, I do not care how the relations between our countries develop! In my deep conviction, relations between Russia and Bulgaria should be close, even fraternal, since we are kindred peoples, with a common civilizational code!
    2. Victor_B April 29 2020 09: 13 New
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      But, in fact, the GOVERNMENT spoils Russia as and wherever it can. Only Poland and Tribaltica are more eager to spoil.

      This is also a propaganda myth replicated in rus-media. For what purpose ... topic for another discussion ...
      You can say as much as you like that the PEOPLE of Bulgaria treats Russia well.

      Not only the people, but also in all the Bulgarian parties, there are forces that relate to Russia quite friendly. In Parliament, even in the government! The frankly pro-Russian “Attack” party even enters the ruling coalition in the moment!

      I was waiting for an answer from you Boyan.
      You wrote everything correctly, but in fact, what happens is happening.
      There are people, ordinary people, and there is a government that this people chooses on its neck.
      Here we have, as always - the king is good, and the boyars to hell!
      After all, you, too, for your part have claims and some just ones against Russia.
      But for Russia to purposefully, to the detriment of itself, crap Bulgaria ...
      1. pytar April 29 2020 11: 29 New
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        After all, you, too, for your part have claims and some just ones against Russia.
        But for Russia to purposefully, to the detriment of itself, crap Bulgaria ...

        Dear Victor, hi politics is always ambiguous! She is guided by interests! It happened more than once, contradictions arose in our interests. It is a fact. Of course, there will always be people who blame the other for "crap." There are different interpretations for each event on both sides. You need to understand that the same situation may look from different sides in completely different ways! Propaganda aimed at fomenting phobic moods works on this principle - it shows only the point of view that is convenient for it. hi
  • APASUS April 29 2020 07: 58 New
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    While it is possible to ascertain the imminent appearance of a new Bulgarian-Polish weapon at the Syrian barmaley! All in revenge and alone, these countries are dependent on the United States
    1. pytar April 29 2020 12: 00 New
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      While it is possible to ascertain the imminent appearance of a new Bulgarian-Polish weapon at the Syrian barmaley!

      Now we can state, only that "... one of the potential participants of the Grot program for the supply of light anti-tank grenade launchers for the needs of the Polish Army - VMZ Sopot was announced." Will participate, it is not known! And here if the contract will be concluded and if this weapon will appear at the barmaley, and then state it! hi
      1. APASUS April 29 2020 18: 07 New
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        But if the contract is concluded and if the barmalei appears this weapon, then state it!

        Do not be offended dear, but the fact that Bulgaria supplies weapons to the barmaley in Syria is even written by your newspapers, filmed on Bulgarian television, it is ridiculous to prove:
        1. pytar April 29 2020 19: 40 New
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          Do not be offended dear, but the fact that Bulgaria supplies weapons to the barmaley in Syria is even written by your newspapers, filmed on Bulgarian television, it is ridiculous to prove:

          I have no doubt that the illegal channels, weapons produced in Bulgaria, fall into the hands of terrorists. But, through such channels weapons come from all over the world. For example, the Russian RPG-32 how are they? Most likely, through Jordan, where they are produced in Russia. licenses! Russia does not test, because Jordanians pay pretty much for licenses!
          As for this video, I was expecting it to appear. Do you know the details of this story? Unlikely! Let me explain: A video report from the Bulgarian journalist Dilyana Gaitanjieva from 2015 from Aleppo. During the investigation, it becomes clear that the weapons delivered under the legal contract of Saudi Arabia. We can assume that the Saudis ego passed on to the barmaley. But here a little bit serial questions arise! Journalist demonstrates chests with the inscription of the plant VMZ-Sopot and shipping documents! Usually, with illegal deliveries, inscriptions and markings are deleted, and the documents could not have ended up in the tunnels where the bd are being kept! Moreover, it was established that neither labeling nor documents comply with Bulgarian standards! Most likely this is a setup, probably from the competitors. The main version is the unresolved dispute between the BG and the Russian Federation on licenses. In 2017, Gaitanjieva came out with material on the supply of Bulgarian weapons to Azerbaijan, which later turned out to be in Syria. We are talking about completely legitimate contracts.
          And here one important detail is Gaitanjieva journalist in the newspaper Trud, whose owners have personal and business connections with structures from the Russian Federation.
          And in order to get a real “compote,” Gaitanjieva already in 2019 makes journalistic disclosures about the supply of a huge amount of weapons to the Yemeni ISIS produced in Serbia / the Krusik factory /. An export contract was concluded between the state-owned company Yugoimport SDPR and the American Alliance Techsystems, on behalf of the US government. Serbia exports weapons to BV by 30-40% more than BG, but before this case no one in the Russian Federation raised a claim to it. And then suddenly ... it turns out through a newspaper close to the Russian Federation! I can’t know the reason, but I got to the info that at that time Serbian companies supplied weapons to several Arabian countries having knocked out Russian suppliers ... I don’t know whether it is or not.
          And a few words not in connection with the foregoing - the Russian Federation supplies UAE armored vehicles. On them, the emirates fought in Yemen against the Hussites, whom Iran supplies with their weapons!
          In short, much is vague in these topics, but there is no morality in trading with weapons! Each / including the RF / supplies weapons to everyone who can pay for it.
          I apologize for the lengthy comments, I could write a lot more, but that's enough for now. hi
          1. APASUS April 29 2020 19: 46 New
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            In short, there are many vague topics

            As an option, it is possible, but too confusing. The British and Americans usually use many ways, intrigues, and other frauds, for Russians it is very difficult.
            1. pytar April 29 2020 19: 49 New
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              As an option, it is possible, but too confusing. The British and Americans usually use many ways, intrigues, and other frauds, for Russians it is very difficult.

              It is clear that I can not say anything! I say that I read and saw in open sources.
              In this bloody business, and not only intrigues, setups, fakes, everyone uses it, without an exception! This is a business without rules, there is no other way! Selling death has always been lucrative!
  • The leader of the Redskins April 29 2020 08: 18 New
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    Well, judging by the data given, not such a bad grenade launcher will work.
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    smile And how well it began. "... production is expected to start in Poland ..." And how it ended. "Production of sights." Yeah, the Poles will only be trusted to do the bar with the hole. And also contain a separate unit for collection and delivery to Bulgaria for reloading tubes
  • Hagen April 29 2020 09: 08 New
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    Old grenade. We were armed with this in the 80s. Integration in NATO crayfish is quite expected. The news didn’t shock ...
  • pytar April 29 2020 09: 18 New
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    Only now, "brothers" began to serve completely different customers - from the security forces of Afghanistan and Iraq, which were created under the strict patronage of the United States

    Russia supplies weapons to the Afghan and Iraqi governments! For some reason, it doesn’t bother her that these governments "created under the strict patronage of the United States"!
    to Syrian radical groups. At least, much is written about this in open sources.

    Syria gets weapons from around the world. Radicals also use modern Russian weapons. Resale schemes are different. Bulgaria exports weapons in accordance with international laws, and the buyer is responsible for its subsequent fate. With Russian weapons, too. hi
    By the way, in open sources, there was information that people with Russian citizenship bought Bulgarian weapons ... Where then it happened, we can guess ... Trade with weapons is the dark side of business.
    1. Victor_B April 29 2020 09: 32 New
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      Arms trading is the dark side of business.

      But Bulgaria, in fact, is one of the largest transshipment points of the ILLEGAL, criminal arms trade with the dirtiest scum.
      1. pytar April 29 2020 10: 43 New
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        But Bulgaria, in fact, is one of the largest transshipment points of the ILLEGAL, criminal arms trade with the dirtiest scum.

        "transshipment", Tipo transit? in fact? and where are the facts? why if you have facts, do not report them to the relevant international arms trade control organizations? I then look at the video frames, dirty scum operate on weapons produced in many countries of the world, including in Russia!
  • Nikolaevich I April 29 2020 09: 21 New
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    One word "reboot" is worth it! Without taking into account that meridian woman who visited Putin with a "yellow button", it becomes clear that the "comrade" Author "organized" the article by "nesting" fragments of a "foreign" text (maybe Bulgarian ... ) in the "own" story ... even without properly reading ...! It remains to be asked: is it really that the Bulgarians are so impoverished that they collect plastic "for joy"? I understand the Germans at the end of WW2 with their faustpatrons ... everything is in short supply due to wartime ... and the black scrap and teperich are collected and handed over to scrap metal collection points for money ... But the "plastic" weapon was "invented" for that so that it would be not only light, but also "waste"! ... Why should a "disposable" weapon be called "reusable" if it is not? Again, I see the reason for this absurdity in the "automatic bracing of text fragments ..."! The author simply did not bother to choose the words in Russian for the "Bulgarian" fragment! RPG-22 can also, if desired, be "reloaded" repeatedly, but it is called a disposable weapon ...
  • knn54 April 29 2020 09: 21 New
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    A little off topic - for some reason, Polish eggs and sugar in Bulgaria are cheaper (information three years ago) than local ones.
    1. pytar April 29 2020 12: 07 New
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      A little off topic - for some reason, Polish eggs and sugar in Bulgaria are cheaper (information three years ago) than local ones.

      If there is a difference, it’s a penny. Poland produces large quantities, respectively, cheaper than nicknames. expenses. But the Bulgarian are better! So I always buy Bulgarian products! I buy imported only if they do not have Bulgarian analogues! hi