Two Russian bases in Belarus may become a subject of bargaining

Failure to extend the Minsk life of two Russian military bases in Belarus, which is about to expire, threatens a conflict between the two countries. Should Lukashenko take the risk of exacerbation?

Such reasoning leads the publication “Belarusian news».

For Russia, these two sites, especially the Volga radar, have important military-strategic importance, and for Belarus they are a good trump card in the ongoing integration bargaining.

The first object is the communications center of the Russian Navy, located in the Minsk region. The second base, the Volga radar, is located in the village of Gantsevichi in the Brest region and is part of the missile attack warning system.

The life of the facilities, which was determined by intergovernmental agreements in 1995, expires on June 6, 2021.

Although Alexander Lukashenko does not declare his intention not to renew the contract, he repeatedly hinted that it would be nice for Russia to somehow thank Belarus for the military facilities located on its territory. In particular, he spoke about this last year in an interview with the publication Echo of Moscow:

In Belarus, we have two military bases of the Russian Federation, high-tech bases. How much did you pay us after the collapse of the USSR for these two bases? Zero.

And although Russia now plans to install the over-the-horizon Container radar in the Kaliningrad Region, it will not provide full missile defense for the European part of Russia. Moreover, the Volga radar was originally created to protect against medium and shorter range ballistic missiles. And after the United States withdrew from the treaty, the significance of the station increased even more.

In addition, according to military expert Konstantin Sivkov, the withdrawal of Russian bases from Belarus would be a political defeat for the Kremlin, so this should not be allowed in any case.

On the other hand, to demand the closure of Russian bases is not in Lukashenko’s interests, because he is too dependent on Moscow. And in doing so, he would harm himself. The price of the issue is not so high as to risk it.

Comments

[DMB 75]

Fell very low in my eyes. Haggling and blackmailing an ally (I stubbornly continue to hope for it, despite all the attacks and blackmail) by joint defense is completely beyond my understanding.

[Tzar]

It seems that he will soon cease to perceive this defense as a joint one.
Quote:

All these wars are not our wars. The Patriotic War of 1812, Napoleon walked to Moscow and returned back through Belarus. Everything was plundered, everything was destroyed.

Here's how to understand such words "ally"? That is, it will probably suit him that NATO members walk through the territory of Belarus, so that nothing is plundered along the way.

[DMB 75]

Which is the most offensive of all. I am sure that the common people of Belarus do not think so, our dearest Slavic people.

[Roman123567]

our dearest Slavic people

More recently, the same thing was said about the Ukrainians .. It would seem-it was much dearer ..))

[krops777]

More recently, the same thing was said about the Ukrainians .. It would seem-it was much dearer ..))

Yes, there, here they are ready to go to VO, to cut each other's throats, because of different political views.

[neri73-r]

Quote: Roman123567

our dearest Slavic people

More recently, the same thing was said about the Ukrainians .. It would seem-it was much dearer ..))

The truth is in your words, but it must also be taken into account that during the Second World War in Belarus there were an order of magnitude less number of traitors than the number of inhabitants. The most persistent and most affected of the national republics of the USSR.

[A.TOR]

during the Second World War in Belarus, the number of traitors was an order of magnitude less

Forgive me for asking: what is the connection between "then" and "now"?

[neri73-r]

Quote: A.TOR

during the Second World War in Belarus, the number of traitors was an order of magnitude less

Forgive me for asking: what is the connection between "then" and "now"?

Straight!

[Rahman]

Ruskiye ocen podlo veli sebya protiv ukraincev ... koqda narod vstal shtobi skinut oliqarxov riskiye tutje vonzali noj v spinu snacala krlmom potom donbas i sbitiy samalyot ... b; azerbayjanci otnosimsya k turkam kak bratyam no yesli oni zdelali to shto vi zdelali s ukraincami ni odin azerbaycanec bolshe ne nazval bi turka bratom ... eto podlost vi otnosheniye k ukraincam nekoqda ne zabudetsya

[Gegemon]

Quote: Rahman

Ruskiye ocen podlo veli sebya protiv ukraincev ... koqda narod vstal shtobi skinut oliqarxov riskiye tutje vonzali

Well, they threw off some others came, now they are generally clowning .. The land was put up for sale, the last thing that remained on the outskirts .. Russia does not interfere, let them turn into slaves of lords and other Biden ..

[Zaurbek]

It depends on the propaganda .....

[Roman123567]

That is, he will surely be satisfied that the NATO people walk through the territory of Belarus, if only they would not plunder anything along the way.

He will NOT be satisfied if the NATO people stroll through the territory of Belarus, reach Moscow, where they will rake the pendal, and return back ..
We sort of will "win" this war .. but he has "Everything has been plundered, everything has been destroyed."
That's what he says, if you can read correctly ..

It’s an eternal misfortune in Russia for decades that now America / NATO will attack us, seize our resources, and so on and so forth ..
And what prevents Belarus from following the path of at least the same Poland ?? Nobody captured anyone, and did not destroy .. So he correctly says - "All these wars are not our wars"
Another thing is that the daddy likes to sit in power forever, because the option with integration into Europe does not work .. that's why he is forced to "ally" with us ..

Of course, while wanting to receive from us in return something more than "protection from NATO," which he didn't give up.

[cat Rusich]

Roman, "to follow the path of Poland" - to be divided between neighbors (remember 1939)

[Ilya-spb]

Question: how long does it take to build two similar bases on the territory of Russia, for example, in the Smolensk, Pskov or Bryansk regions?

And Lukashenko ... Tired. How much did Russia pay him? Not zero, but VERY MUCH.

[DymOk_v_dYmke]

Quote: Tzar

Here's how to understand such words "ally"?

To understand so that we see another stuffing, another attempt to drive wedges.
By the way, the link to the "source" does not work either.
There is nothing to discuss here.

[prior]

Here is a sample provocative article. Another hit over the Belarusians.
Lukashenka did not put Russia "cancer", he did not declare the termination of the operation of Russian bases on his territory, the reference to the source is not relevant.
But the attack on the fan on the VO site has been completed.
And away we go .... Ah, what a bad dad ...
And what began with the provocation of the author of the article, is it really important ?! who didn’t even sign up.

[Svetlana]

Plus five hundred
...
The world does not stand still. People are changing, the climate is changing, the cost of services is changing, everything is changing. What was chic yesterday, today it is shit on a stick.
Therefore, after the expiration of the terms of the contracts, new contracts are always concluded on new terms, which are the subject of bargaining. A traded two sides in more than one. In this case, Russia is also being traded.
And without an agreement, it’s impossible to establish a base on a foreign territory, albeit an ally.

[Krasnoyarsk]

Quote: prior

Here is a sample provocative article.

I do not believe that Lukashenko does not understand that bargaining is inappropriate here. And if the words were uttered - = How much did you pay us after the collapse of the USSR for these two bases? Zero. = - they were most likely taken out of context. And they were not said to demand something from Russia.
Always an opponent of articles inciting discord between our peoples, be it Belarus or Ukraine. Yes, the real state of affairs needs to be covered, but - the real one and without escalation.

[Vlad is short]

Why the heck was Luke generally mentioning these objects in any context? For example, Poland is ready to equip the US division on its territory at its own expense and continue to support the US military. That's what I understand ally

[hagen]

Quote: prior

Here is a sample provocative article.

"..... Belarus did not take, and will not continue to take money for the deployed Russian military facilities," said President of Belarus Alexander Lukashenko at a meeting with representatives of the public and the expert community, Belarusian and foreign media on March 1.
On January 6, 1995, on the basis of the Russian-Belarusian agreement, the ORTU “Gantsevichi” and the communications center of the Navy “Vileika” together with the land plots were transferred to Russia for 25 years without levying all types of taxes and fees.
“We will not take a penny from you in the future, even if you don’t regulate the tax maneuver, let you have this money. But we won't take a penny from you for the bases, because this is our common security, "said Alexander Lukashenko ...." It was a year ago. I think it is relevant today.

[Sklendarka]

Quote: Hagen

Quote: prior

Here is a sample provocative article.

"..... Belarus did not take, and will not continue to take money for the deployed Russian military facilities," said President of Belarus Alexander Lukashenko at a meeting with representatives of the public and the expert community, Belarusian and foreign media on March 1.
On January 6, 1995, on the basis of the Russian-Belarusian agreement, the ORTU “Gantsevichi” and the communications center of the Navy “Vileika” together with the land plots were transferred to Russia for 25 years without levying all types of taxes and fees.
“We will not take a penny from you in the future, even if you don’t regulate the tax maneuver, let you have this money. But we won't take a penny from you for the bases, because this is our common security, "said Alexander Lukashenko ...." It was a year ago. I think it is relevant today.

Here's how to explain it to those who write here and now ???

[Alexga]

Here, unfortunately, there are more writers than readers. I suspect that someone is practicing not for free creating tensions between the Russian Federation and the Republic of Belarus. Or maybe a shkolota came running.

[hagen]

Quote: Skalendarka

Here's how to explain it to those who write here and now ???

It makes no sense to explain to those who write articles. I will not explain the reason, so I live my "ninth" life. Those who read, and then write comments, to teach - only spoil ... Three words life position, nurtured by dozens of years of life experience, can not be minimized. It's easier to leave it as it is ...

[Sklendarka]

Quote: Hagen

Quote: Skalendarka

Here's how to explain it to those who write here and now ???

It makes no sense to explain to those who write articles. I will not explain the reason, so I live my "ninth" life. Those who read, and then write comments, to teach - only spoil ... Three words life position, nurtured by dozens of years of life experience, can not be minimized. It's easier to leave it as it is ...

,, ... it's a shame, you understand ... ''

[hagen]

Quote: Skalendarka

,, ... it's a shame, you understand ... ''

What for??? People are not perfect, this must be accepted as a fact. And yet they have the right to do so. Well, some people think differently, there is no harm in it. But such communication deprives of illusions, sometimes harmful. This is a plus.

[Sklendarka]

Quote: Hagen

Quote: Skalendarka

,, ... it's a shame, you understand ... ''

What for??? People are not perfect, this must be accepted as a fact. And yet they have the right to do so. Well, some people think differently, there is no harm in it. But such communication deprives of illusions, sometimes harmful. This is a plus.

What people think is of course +, but when they think that they are always right, then this is ,, - '';
I always wanted to ask, but what do these thousands of Russians do in our country (in Belarus) if we are such enemies ???

[hagen]

Quote: Skalendarka

I always wanted to ask, but what do these thousands of Russians do in our country (in Belarus) if we are such enemies ???

We are not thieves. It's just that at the highest levels, misunderstandings happen. And the people react to this emotionally. I also occasionally do not quite understand Lukashenko’s position. But in Belarus I have good friends with whom not one pound of salt is eaten. And dad is not a hindrance to us. We drank, we drink and we will drink together (when it turns out)

[Sklendarka]

Quote: Hagen

Quote: Skalendarka

I always wanted to ask, but what do these thousands of Russians do in our country (in Belarus) if we are such enemies ???

We are not thieves. It's just that at the highest levels, misunderstandings happen. And the people react to this emotionally. I also occasionally do not quite understand Lukashenko’s position. But in Belarus I have good friends with whom not one pound of salt is eaten. And dad is not a hindrance to us. We drank, we drink and we will drink together (when it turns out)

... and we will be together, and if necessary, then stand back to back.
And what about the dad, what about the aunt - ... the native country would live and there are no other worries ... ''

[hagen]

Quote: Skalendarka

,, ... the native country would live and there are no other worries ... '

Be healthy, comrade!

[Sklendarka]

Quote: Hagen

Quote: Skalendarka

,, ... the native country would live and there are no other worries ... '

Be healthy, comrade!

In truth, hooray, hooray hooray !!!!

[venik]

Quote: prior

Here is a sample provocative article. Another hit over the Belarusians.
Lukashenka did not put Russia "cancer", he did not declare the termination of the operation of Russian bases on his territory, the reference to the source is not relevant.

=======
Do not quite understand.
"...We have two military bases of the Russian Federation and high-tech bases in Belarus. How much did you pay us after the collapse of the USSR for these two bases? Zero....."So HE DIDN'T SPEAK THAT ???
Then where did the author get the quote from? Really come up with?

[Sklendarka]

Quote: venik

Quote: prior

Here is a sample provocative article. Another hit over the Belarusians.
Lukashenka did not put Russia "cancer", he did not declare the termination of the operation of Russian bases on his territory, the reference to the source is not relevant.

=======
Do not quite understand.
"...We have two military bases of the Russian Federation and high-tech bases in Belarus. How much did you pay us after the collapse of the USSR for these two bases? Zero....."So HE DIDN'T SPEAK THAT ???
Then where did the author get the quote from? Really come up with?

You know, there was a third self-destruction, and the hawthorn is doing its job ...
Soon Luka from their outlet will climb out, in the sense of Squirrel will jump ...

[venik]

Quote: Skalendarka

You know, there was a third self-destruction, and the hawthorn is doing its job ...
Soon Luka from their outlet will climb out, in the sense of Squirrel will jump ...

========

Sorry, but can it all be Russian translate language? And then, this "pearl" as something "I do not catch up" .... With the gibberish language somehow "in life" did not work out! (maybe hawthorn should be tried in order to understand?).

[Krasnoyarsk]

Quote: venik

Quote: Skalendarka

You know, there was a third self-destruction, and the hawthorn is doing its job ...
Soon Luka from their outlet will climb out, in the sense of Squirrel will jump ...

========

Sorry, but can it all be Russian translate language? And then, this "pearl" as something "I do not catch up" .... With the gibberish language somehow "in life" did not work out! (maybe hawthorn should be tried in order to understand?).

Why don't you "catch up" there? The above quote from Lukashenka's speech is most likely taken out of context. And if you read, or better listen, (emotions, tone, gestures), then the meaning will change dramatically.
Why is this done? For the negative perception of Luke and Belarus among the not very smart, of which, alas, a lot.

[Lara Croft]

Quote: venik

That is, he did not say this ???
Then where did the author get the quote from? Really come up with?

The author of this article refers to the media in Belarus, article dated 28.04.2020/XNUMX/XNUMX, author Alexander ALESIN (all of his articles in this media: https://naviny.by/author/aleksandr-alesin, nor would he say that he writes pro-Russian articles)
https://yandex.ru/turbo?text=https%3A%2F%2Fnaviny.by%2Farticle%2F20200428%2F1588059825-risknet-li-minsk-potrepat-nervy-moskve-za-eti-dve-bazy-v-belarusi

[CAT BAIYUN]

I support. I don’t know where the article was sucked (I even doubt that it’s out of a finger), but with obvious attempts to "pASMATRITI what Hady these Belarusians are, and Lukashenka is so vAApche Had!"
As far as I know, living here, no one is going to take any action on these objects.
In addition (maybe the authors are not in the know), but the military doctrine of the Republic of Belarus and the Russian Federation is one. With all the ensuing consequences.
But no ....
Here is whose loot the author fulfills? And on whose mill the feces are pouring?

[Mabius]

Quote: KOT BYUN

I don’t know where the article was sucked (I even doubt that it’s out of the blue), but with obvious attempts to "pASMATRITI what Hadi these Belarusians are, and Lukashenka and wAApche Had!"

It’s noticed to a point .. Here’s a note that it’s not an article about Lukashenko, it’s already clear from the headline that we are being poisoned by Belarusians and almost every day such articles come out as ordered.
Separate and conquer their purpose ...

[Sklendarka]

Quote: CAT BAYUN

I support. I don’t know where the article was sucked (I even doubt that it’s out of a finger), but with obvious attempts to "pASMATRITI what Hady these Belarusians are, and Lukashenka is so vAApche Had!"
As far as I know, living here, no one is going to take any action on these objects.
In addition (maybe the authors are not in the know), but the military doctrine of the Republic of Belarus and the Russian Federation is one. With all the ensuing consequences.
But no ....
Here is whose loot the author fulfills? And on whose mill the feces are pouring?

The article is not sucked, but sucked and for not a small tanga ....
But komenty surprise ....

[Fantazer911]

prior
I support one hundred percent! Throw on a fan and incite hatred and squabbles!

[Orkraider]

Quote: prior

Here is a sample provocative article. Another hit over the Belarusians.
Lukashenka did not put Russia "cancer", he did not declare the termination of the operation of Russian bases on his territory, the reference to the source is not relevant.
But the attack on the fan on the VO site has been completed.
And away we go .... Ah, what a bad dad ...
And what began with the provocation of the author of the article, is it really important ?! who didn’t even sign up.

Greetings!

Well said, I support!
Squeeze your fingers into a fist and break through the wall, disconnect - you will break one by one ..

[kjhg]

Quote: DMB 75

Haggling and blackmailing an ally (I stubbornly continue to hope for it, despite all the attacks and blackmail) by joint defense

Quote: DMB 75

this is completely beyond my comprehension.

Actually, therefore, you cannot understand, because lead yourself into a dead end, taking Lukoshenko for an ally.

[Roman123567]

But when Putin blackmailed him with integration, for the sake of extending his powers - that means it was normal ..))
As soon as Luka finally refused, oil obstacles immediately began ..
True, then with oil new obstacles began, already with us ..

[venik]

Quote: Roman123567

But when Putin blackmailed him with integration, for the sake of extending his powers - that means it was normal ..))
As soon as Luka finally refused, oil obstacles immediately began.

=======
In general, father's interest in "integration" somehow abruptly faded out immediately after Putin's arrival, when he realized that his chances of becoming the head of the Union State, instead of the completely drunken EBN, began to tend to zero! Exactly THEN it began, as in that joke: "Will you drink tea? Yes, no, probably..."

[Kisa]

I was here a couple of months ago that the friendship cooperation on the pipe is not built. the situation will change, oil will fall and friendship will end when an alternative appears. right now, this oil is being traded in minus just to get rid of here and the new crawls of the Old Man and the Poles with the Baltic states they also have more than one hundred years of a common history .... I suspect these centrifugal forces will intensify further

[Gray brother]

Quote: DMB 75

bargain and blackmail an ally (

Dragging something, even in this sketch it is directly indicated that:

Lukashenko does not declare his intention not to renew the contract

[DMB 75]

Sergey, I understand, but even hints are inappropriate here ...

he repeatedly hinted that it would be nice for Russia to somehow thank Belarus for the military facilities located on its territory.

Ally, then ally. I am so educated ...

[Lara Croft]

Quote: DMB 75

Sergey, I understand, but even hints are inappropriate here ...

he repeatedly hinted that it would be nice for Russia to somehow thank Belarus for the military facilities located on its territory.

Ally, then ally. I am so educated ...

Strange, some kind of upbringing you have, only for your own benefit, the Russian Federation does not pay Belarus for rent, because it previously wrote off (at the conclusion of the Agreements on military facilities in the Republic of Belarus) a lard of debt and provided its landfills for free air defense of the Republic of Belarus, and not because of the kindness of a generous Old Man, before talking about alliance, read, at least the Agreements regulating the use of the Russian Federation of the above objects ....
RB, doesn’t transfer anything to the Russian Federation for free, maximum barter transactions for armaments .... and cancellation of the Russian Federation’s debt for these armaments .... there were also orphans ...

[g1v2]

For all post-Soviet elites of all republics, without exception, the main threat is not NATO. Most of all they are afraid that Russia will drag them back into itself. Nobody wants to lose their specific principality. And for the population, life in a large country is much more profitable if you are not Qatar or Norway and do not sit on wells with a scanty population. More opportunities, fewer barriers, lower energy prices, more markets. But on the other hand, many elites understand that the economy makes them focus on the Russian Federation. All elites solve two problems - to earn on relations with the Russian Federation and at the same time to crush any pro-Russian forces within their countries. Belarus is no exception. Old Man needs to get a maximum of goodies and at the same time not allow any attempts by Russia to create some pro-Russian forces or parties inside. And certainly the Old Man does not want to have Russian units on his territory that will become a factor within the Republic of Belarus. Although from the point of view of the military alliance they are necessary. Maybe after Ukraine openly became a NATO proxy, Belarus turns out to be surrounded by an adversary on three sides. And without the help of Russia in case of war, it will not survive. Just because its economy does not allow it to have an army capable of protecting the Republic of Belarus from an attack from Ukraine, Poland and the Baltic at the same time.
Well, in any case, we need to duplicate the existing facilities within the country so that they cannot blackmail us. And the old man will try to explain that forever he will not be a specific prince. Which is far from the fact that his children will be able to maintain power after him. And that only a large country will allow his family to save money and influence and provide its descendants with security. Otherwise, his own siloviki will deal with his heirs.

[Lara Croft]

g1v2 (Vitaliy) And the old man will try to explain that forever he will not be a prince.

What for? We tried to do this in Ukraine and Georgia ... They did not listen to us .... as a result, both countries became smaller in territorial terms ...
Following the war, 08.08.08 Georgia lost South Ossetia and Abkhazia (legally), now Adjara (actually) in favor of Turkey ....
Ukraine on the basis of the first Maidan lost about. Serpentine and natural resources in the Black Sea next to it (legally) in favor of Romania according to the results of the International Arbitration, and following the results of the second Maidan, it lost the Crimea (legally) in favor of the Russian Federation and part of Donetsk and Lugansk regions (actually) ...
Why did they get the idea that the Russian Federation will allow Belarus to become a hostile state of Belarus, like Ukraine in its full territorial form?

[g1v2]

Why do we need the collapse of an official ally with a completely friendly population? With whom do we officially live in a confederation? Ukraine, Georgia and Moldova were initially open enemies and members of the anti-Russian bloc of GUAM. All actions against them are logical and justified. RB is our official ally, and it is officially in integration with us. In theory, if the Old Man is convinced, the Republic of Belarus can officially formally become part of the Russian Federation as a republic. And this will be a significant strengthening of Russia. Both political and economic and military. Only the Suvalki corridor will separate us from Kaliningrad. The Baltic states will become completely hopeless for NATO in military terms. The population will grow by 10 million completely Russian people. The market will grow as much. All economic conflicts and graters will disappear. This is an opportunity that you should not just give up.
For Dad, in this version there is the main thing - child safety, preservation of the resources of the clan and growth opportunities already in a big country. Both for posterity and for yourself. In the Russian Federation, for example, there is a need for a second large party - the center-left. Just Russia is clearly not pulling this position. Comrade Lukashenko can become a serious figure in a big country. And like Zhirinovsky - to a very old age. And within the framework of this party, he will be able to move children. Who knows, maybe Kolya will grow into a high-flying politician and will even claim the main Russian stool? Is this not a temptation for Old Man?

[_Ugene_]

In Belarus, we have two military bases of the Russian Federation, high-tech bases. How much did you pay us after the collapse of the USSR for these two bases? Zero.

in my opinion, such a "friendship" is not needed, as Omar Hayam said - you better be alone than with just anyone, it is clear that as soon as we throw them, the Americans will immediately arrange democracy, instead of Lukashenka they will put their people and will develop everything there according to scenario of Ukraine and we will get another pro-American country on our border, but this is also not the case

[alone]

Quote: _Ugene_

in my opinion such a "friendship" is not needed, as Omar Khayam said - you better be alone than with just anyone

I didn’t say that

[stalki]

in my opinion such a "friendship" is not needed, as Omar Khayam said - you better be alone than with just anyone

And the Belarusians are no one. Is that how you judge people, the whole nation? Well, then I consider you "empty space".
P.S. here Lukashenko should not be taken into account, but strategy and history. He is just a bargaining chip on the board of ages.

[Uncle lee]

Quote: stalki

changeable figure on a board of eras.

And as one character said: "Bargaining is inappropriate here!"

[mitrich]

You can no longer bet on such "friends" in the long run. They will betray in an instant. Or the price of "friendship" will be prohibitive. Only on its own territory. Unless there are clear plans for the final solution of the Belarusian issue. I'm about joining.

[_Ugene_]

I'm about joining.

The issue of accession must be raised on their part, otherwise it is annexation, and from there something is not heard of such proposals, so far only fears that they will be forced, and such an accession is not necessary

[mitrich]

There are a lot of options, everything has long been run-in, polished by "civilized" countries before us. At the request of workers, people .... as an option.

[Sklendarka]

Quote: mitrich

You can no longer bet on such "friends" in the long run. They will betray in an instant. Or the price of "friendship" will be prohibitive. Only on its own territory. Unless there are clear plans for the final solution of the Belarusian issue. I'm about joining.

And it will be kind, about the Belarusian issue in more detail .....

[mitrich]

Well, by the way you distort the name of your country, everything is clear. Belarus is an integral part of Russia. In any case, there are many of them. In another way, no.
What do you think: to live at our expense and to be like that, all from ourselves, independent and independent? Then get ready for the fate of the Sumeria sister.

[Papazen]

Most of the site almost obscenities cover the leadership of the Central Bank and the government. A smaller number (but rather large) is not quite the president. And at the same time, a very large number of comments run into Belarusians due to the fact that they do not want to unite in the format of annexation.
For me, this is some kind of split personality. Who will they have to adapt to in the economic sphere? Under Nabiullin and the liberal government? It’s only our frostbitten economic commanders who are ready to drain all the money to the west, and the Old Man is dragging everything home - to the house. It is better to let the Belarusians get the money than Nabiullina with the bankers will merge it with the Americans. Don’t worry, they do not plan surplus money in Russia.
I can assume that Belarus is not the most efficient economic system, but ours, in my opinion, is even worse. They stupidly kill everything that remains in Belarus. But when our liberals are driven from power (if they are driven), then it will be possible to say something about unification.

[mitrich]

Daddy all "to the house - to the hut drags." Are you serious!? To his own, personal home, son-nikOlenka, in particular, drags. It is not much different from ours. Only our Tsar shares with the boyars, the volosts are given the plunder to the farms, and but father everything is in one muzzle-face.

[Sklendarka]

Yes, your CAR and yes with the boyars hide their offspring more and more beyond the borders of the seas / seas, mentos buy them all sorts of different things and even your denyushka are all still thousands, they’re closer to the imperialists
Of course, I understand that all this causes you `` concern '', but you ... hold on ... ''

[mitrich]

Well, go and bow down to your chairman of the collective farm "30 years without profits." Maybe it will be possible to beg for something else from the Russian elder brother with whining, blunt threats and rude flattery. Then, you look, and you will get a couple of kilos of buckwheat from batskin's bounties. You will panic.

[Sklendarka]

Quote: mitrich

Well, go and bow down to your chairman of the collective farm "30 years without profits." Maybe it will be possible to beg for something else from the Russian elder brother with whining, blunt threats and rude flattery. Then, you look, and you will get a couple of kilos of buckwheat from batskin's bounties. You will panic.

Mitrich, are you cantuated or wounded in the ass?
Personally, what do I owe you?
Sit in the nest, and sit until you have driven it into a hole ...

[for]

Quote: mitrich

But father is all in one face.

Yes, we have colonels richer dad, not to mention the leaders of the state department.

[Lara Croft]

Quote: PapaZen

And at the same time, a very large number of comments run into Belarusians due to the fact that they do not want to unite in the format of annexation.

Actually, the article here is about something else, but they will unite with the Republic of Belarus in no way stipulated by International Law, I personally do not want to, it is necessary to master its territory, otherwise after 100 years the Republic of Belarus will bill the Russian Federation for "occupation", like the Balts ...
Let them build their independence, tea for almost 30 years in Belarus, as an independent state ...

In general, it is time for the Russian Federation to take an inventory of all international treaties with our "allies", otherwise they signed agreements on security for a hundred years in advance ...

[Mavrikiy]

Is Lukashenko worth the risk of exacerbation?

Not worth it, definitely. No need to comb! A neighbor sold our facility to Amer and was left without a camp, an orphaned beaver.

[Graz]

it's time to build exclusively market relations with the Old Man

[Sklendarka]

Quote: Graz

it's time to build exclusively market relations with the Old Man

In the sense of `` prize money '' to pay as your oil premiums require ???

[DMB 75]

Ours, yours, are the arguments of the Belarusian side, we stubbornly want without dividing ours and yours. And for that matter, take Russian goods at the market price, like we are Belarusian, and do not start talking about discounts and preferences every time on the website in their turn, gentlemen-comrades with Belarusian nicknames, since they are so independent and well-managed without us, as you like to emphasize here every time. Together, so together. Tabachek apart - free will.

[Andrei Nikolaevich]

DMB 75, I respect Belarusians. But they are becoming more and more impudent. It won't end well. If they consider themselves "independent" then let them be. But not at our expense ...
"Belarusian lobsters" let them feed others. Sharovarnikov, for example. Now is the time for them to "eat lobsters" ..

[seti]

As far as I know, these objects are significantly different from the bases.
- Radar "Volga" (Baranovichi) - is part of the missile attack warning system.
- The 43rd communications center of the Navy (Vileika) - provides communication at frequencies of extra-long waves of the General Staff of the Russian Navy with nuclear submarines on alert in the Atlantic, Indian and partially Pacific oceans.
Old Man, what about the CSTO?

[Ryazan87]

Of course, Lukashenko is brazenly and stupidly lying.

In Belarus, we have two military bases of the Russian Federation, high-tech bases. How much did you pay us after the collapse of the USSR for these two bases? Zero.

Firstly, both objects are not military bases. Secondly, about paying him to put his tongue in the place that he usually thinks and cunning.

474th Separate Radio Engineering Center (ORTU) (“Baranovichi” Node, ORTU “Gantsevichi”).
- All real estate and land occupied by Volga were transferred to the Russian side for use for a period of 25 years without levying all types of taxes, except taxes related to economic activity. Belarus also does not require payment for the use of communication channels.

In trade for an agreement was reached on the signing of an agreement partial cancellation of the debt of the Republic of Belarus for energy.
The Belarusian side also receives information on the rocket and space situation and the ability to use Russian training ranges for live firing of its air defense systems for leasing a site. By the way, about 200 citizens of Belarus work at the facilities serving the site.

43rd communications center of the Russian Navy (Radio station "Vileika")
The 43rd communications center operates on the basis of an intergovernmental agreement of January 6, 1995 for a period of 25 years. According to him the node does not have the status of a military baseы.
The real estate of the radio station specified in the appendix to the Agreement, is the property of Belarus.
In addition, Russia provides Belarus free of charge information on the transmission of signals of the State system of uniform time and reference frequencies of the Russian Federation using a radio station.

[Sklendarka]

Quote: seti

As far as I know, these objects are significantly different from the bases.
- Radar "Volga" (Baranovichi) - is part of the missile attack warning system.
- The 43rd communications center of the Navy (Vileika) - provides communication at frequencies of extra-long waves of the General Staff of the Russian Navy with nuclear submarines on alert in the Atlantic, Indian and partially Pacific oceans.
Old Man, what about the CSTO?

A stepfather, that either stated? or just speculation / guess magazine south?

[Lara Croft]

Quote: Skalendarka

A stepfather, that either stated? or just speculation / guess magazine south?

Read the article. He "compassionate" forgot about the written off debt and free use of the Armed Forces of the Republic of Belarus of Russian training grounds ....

[alone]

Honestly, you yourself are to blame ... You have chosen your friends yourself, and now you are reaping the benefits

[alone]

Quote: lonely

They chose friends for themselves,

Okay, persuaded, I chose you friends

[knn54]

To act (if it doesn’t) as the Yankees in Iraq, we’ll leave if you return the billion dollars spent on building the base.
OTHER Old Man, it seems, does not understand.

[Sklendarka]

Quote: knn54

To act (if it doesn’t) as the Yankees in Iraq, we’ll leave if you return the billion dollars spent on building the base.
OTHER Old Man, it seems, does not understand.

Oh, how impudent you are .....

[Lara Croft]

Quote: knn54

To act (if it doesn’t) as the Yankees in Iraq, we’ll leave if you return the billion dollars spent on building the base.

In Iraq, oil, and in Belarus there is only a church mouse in the corner .... And the objects were built under the USSR, it is the property of the Republic of Belarus, which the Russian Federation does not dispute ...

[Victorio]

Although Alexander Lukashenko does not declare intent not to renew the contract, he repeatedly hinted that it would be nice for Russia to somehow thank Belarus for the military facilities located on its territory.
===
since it doesn’t declare what then to write articles

[Warrior MorePhoto]

The price of the issue is the lives of Russian soldiers and officers, if anything happens to Belarus. Dad goes too far.

[Kicum]

Zadolbal already this hell, everyone is offended by something, everyone is trying to bargain for something, but he went to hell!

[Sklendarka]

And what about your demon in the bunker? Today, he promised to create a phenomenon for the people ...

[Kicum]

Do you have something against Putin? At least he doesn’t publicly speak badly about Belarus and yours ... if something happens, you’ll ask yourself for this if you don’t have your own ..

[bukhach]

Not ... you're wrong, this shot will be asked to the Polish bunker soon, because the saints will gather there, why should he go to demons?

[MstislavHrabr]

I wonder who is sponsoring these "Belorusskie Novosti" speakers with such an assumption ?! I have not heard such specifics from Lukashenka. And I'm not sure what I'll hear ...

[MITIAI 27]

What are you rats .... what nonsense are you driving out here? what a bad dad is what is tougher with them, maybe it’s bad but you don’t know anything what a bad Kremlin is in relation to the Dad, what proposals and demands does the Kremlin put forward to him ... ohhh they won’t show them or tell about the news. Only the union of Russia and Belarus only together !!!

[_Ugene_]

well, so you are a rat and tell us

what proposals and requirements does the Kremlin put forward to him

[Victorio]

Quote: _Ugene_

well, so you are a rat and tell us

what proposals and requirements does the Kremlin put forward to him

===
It is thought that discussing the issue, and give an assessment, you can know / listen to both positions. but as understood, so far no one has been voiced. however, Lukashenko is already being persuaded

[Sidor Amenpodestovich]

You are a rat ....

How's it go. Did you pinch your finger?

what proposals and requirements does the Kremlin put forward to him

What?

[Andrei Nikolaevich]

Only the union of Russia and Belarus only together !!!
We have already been "TOGETHER" with Ukraine. Enough.

[Lara Croft]

There are no WB RFs on the territory of the Republic of Belarus, there are military facilities.

Both military institutions are not endowed with the status of military bases. There are no lethal weapons on their territory. "These are technical objects that are engaged in reconnaissance, radar and communications," experts say, referring to the "Agreement on the use and maintenance of the Vileika radio station" and "Agreement on the procedure for completing the construction and maintenance of the Baranovichi missile attack warning system".

https://thinktanks.by/publication/2017/09/07/skolko-rossiyskih-voennyh-obektov-na-territorii-belarusi.html

Although Alexander Lukashenko does not declare his intention not to renew the contract, he has repeatedly hinted that it would be nice for Russia to somehow thank Belarus for the military facilities located on its territory. In particular, he spoke about this last year in an interview with Ekho Moskvy:
We have two military bases of the Russian Federation and high-tech bases in Belarus. How much did you pay us after the collapse of the USSR for these two bases? Zero.

Again, Old Man is lying, and so he says this to the oppositional Kremlin “Echo of Moscow”

Infrastructure, real estate and land plots on which the facilities are located, Belarus handed over to Russians for free use for 25 years without paying for communication channels and "without collecting all types of taxes, except for taxes related to economic activities." However, according to RIA Novosti, "not a single tax is levied on the local budget of Belarus." In exchange for an agreement on a free lease, Russia wrote off the $ 900 million debt to the Belarusian side for energy resources and pledged to provide its military training grounds for training firing and information on the space and rocket situation free of charge.

see there ...

[Alexga]

https://thinktanks.by/publication/2017/09/07/skolko-rossiyskih-voennyh-obektov-na-territorii-belarusi.html

This is about your source:
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What do you think about authenticity here?

[Lara Croft]

Quote: AlexGa

https://thinktanks.by/publication/2017/09/07/skolko-rossiyskih-voennyh-obektov-na-territorii-belarusi.html

What do you think about authenticity here?

I don’t think so ....
First of all, I focus on international public law

"Agreement on the procedure for the use and maintenance of the Vileika radio station" and "" Agreement on the procedure for completing the construction and maintenance of the Baranovichi node of the missile attack warning system "

However, if you provide me and other good forum users with evidence of the RF debt to the Republic of Belarus (and its calculation, as well as the rule of law from which it was formed) for the operation of the first of the above facilities, I will be grateful to you ...

[Alexga]

And how sideways is the registration of a site in Ukraine and their purpose, as I said, and the debt of the Russian Federation, what are you talking about ??? What rules of law in modern interstate relations can be said? Well, Luke will say that Russia owes Belarus a crazy amount of billions of American rubles for objects, for transit of oil and other crap, and who will tell him what ?! Gazprom's example in gas wars is a prime example.

[Lara Croft]

Quote: AlexGa

And how sideways is the registration of a site in Ukraine and their purpose,

You questioned my source of information.

What do you think about authenticity here?

on which, if a link to Interstate agreements concluded between the Russian Federation and the Republic of Belarus, refutes your source of information, then you have not submitted what is written on the Ukrainian website and indicating the opposite ...
You have not provided denials about what is specified in the "Agreement on the use and maintenance of the Vileika radio station" and "Agreement on the procedure for completing the construction and maintenance of the Baranovichi missile attack warning system node" and did not provide evidence that they are currently invalid. ..
Thus, your information that the domain registration was carried out in Ukraine in no way casts doubt on what I wrote above .... here I am talking about ... in addition, domains can be leased ... to third parties ...

What rules of law in modern interstate relations can be said?

Fortunately and unfortunately you have them ....

Well, Luke will say that Russia owes Belarus a crazy amount of billions of American rubles for objects, for transit of oil and other crap, and who will tell him what ?!

Of course, he can say anything, anyone who forbids him, is another matter how he will substantiate his requirements for the Russian Federation ....

Gazprom's example in gas wars is a prime example.

This is a separate topic of the article, besides, there are examples there, both positive and negative, I am not the head of the Legal / Financial Department of GAZPROM, therefore I cannot say anything specific, and if it were, I still did not say anything , tp commercial secret ... associated with the activities of a certain "poorhouse" and its counterparties ...

And one more thing ... how it seems to all of us here you are trolling ...

[Alexga]

And one more thing ... how it seems to all of us here you are trolling ...

No, dear, here you are wrong. I have great respect in your opinion, this is your right. But when there are links to sources of information that are created to discredit other states and their populations, I cannot agree with this. This is from the same opera, judging by the Russian Federation by chatter on Rain, Navalny, Echo of Moscow and others, and About the Republic of Belarus - Belsat (Warsaw), Charter (Vilnius). Please note, barrels are rolled to Luka from abroad, and in the Russian Federation their homegrown. So about trolling, you made a mistake with the address. And on the topic, here’s what’s interesting is that, until June 6, under the agreement to which you refer, negotiations should be held and a new agreement signed, the old one will not automatically be extended. But the silence. While Lukashenko is in power in Belarus, there’s no need to worry about Russia's western borders. I think so.

[Alexga]

. here I am talking about ... in addition, domains can be leased ... to third parties ...

Is it like the Bank of RUSSIA, a branch of the Fed ?!

[Lara Croft]

Quote: AlexGa

and in the Russian Federation their homegrown.

Yes, I’m on the Old Man’s drum, well, if he doesn’t recognize Crimea as Russian, then for me it’s the same as those who

Barrels roll to Luka from abroad

, logically arguing that if the Republic of Belarus in the person of its president does not recognize Crimea as Russian, and accordingly does not recognize at least one part of the Constitution of the Russian Federation, then I don’t give a damn about both the Old Man and those who roll the barrel at him and how much and on the territorial integrity of Belarus itself ... nothing personal ...

And on the topic, here’s what’s interesting is that, until June 6, under the agreement to which you refer, negotiations should be held and a new agreement signed, the old one will not automatically be extended.

This is all good (or rather, probably nothing good), but you still have not challenged the status of the Agreements that I have indicated to date and on what grounds the Russian Federation uses these facilities ... if you provide evidence that the Russian Federation owes at least a penny of Belarus for renting these I take into account all the objects until I heard this from you .....

But the silence.

Well, our military will move out of the Republic of Belarus, as it once did from Gabala, but this is probably bad, but in the 90s there was no continuous radio monitoring at all, do not worry about finding a replacement, the Russian Federation didn’t encounter such problems, it’s just the territory of the Republic of Belarus by our military will be excluded as a territory of joint defense from NATO, and only part of the theater of operations with all the consequences will be considered ...

While Lukashenko is in power in Belarus, there’s no need to worry about Russia's western borders. I think so.

You should not think so. Something similar was said here about Yanukovych and the radar in Mukachevo and in Sevastopol. Although I think if Rostov-on-Don will accept it .... (although Smolensk is closer) ...
As for the western borders, the "senior comrades" know better how to fend off the danger from NATO and their fosterlings, I think the RF Armed Forces will have enough forces and means ...

Sorry for the wait, working on a remote site, periodically diving here ...

[Alexga]

Okay, this is for a long time. Think how you know. Your business. After your words:

if Belarus in the person of its president does not recognize Crimea as Russian

talking is not interesting. You better tell Gref, Megafon and other organizations about recognition of the Crimea, do not forget about the Russian Railways, and it’s strange somehow, why did the train of the Crimean railways go along the Crimean bridge, and not the Russian Railways. The answer is not needed, everything is clear. I wish you all the best and good luck.

[Lara Croft]

Quote: AlexGa

Okay, this is for a long time.

I am patient. But I never received an answer from you, and you always go away, so apparently the dialogue is long ...

I wish you all the best and good luck.

[Alexga]

Damn, well, you’re strange, you yourself read that in accordance with the Agreement there was no payment provided for what you are seeking, I don’t understand! A year ago, Luka said that no matter how the Russian government shows off, he will not now and in the future take money for these objects. What is not clear? Or is Russian not your native language? Have I answered your question? At the moment, there is no development of a new agreement, and it will not be clear how it will continue. Once again I say, the time of signing a new one expires on June 6.

[Lara Croft]

Quote: AlexGa

Damn, well, you’re strange, you yourself read that in accordance with the Agreement there was no payment provided for what you are seeking, I don’t understand!

The fact is that everything was written in Russian for me, however, you questioned the accuracy of the information written on the Ukrainian site where the link went to the above-mentioned Agreements, which means the Agreements themselves were not a source of information for you either, these are your lines:

What do you think about authenticity here?

и

What rules of law in modern interstate relations can be said?

and only now you started to write about what I wrote in the original comment

in accordance with the Agreement no payment was provided

There is no development of a new contract at the moment

Well, this is not clear to you, I suspect that it is simply in two versions - compensated and gratuitous ... and there, as they say, "we will continue to look" ...

Goodbye, I'm tired of you ... Chesh word ....

[Alexga]

Two questions, where I wrote about debt for objects, and why did you keep silent so modestly about the recognition of Crimea?

[Lara Croft]

Quote: AlexGa

Two questions where I wrote about debt for objects

You just now recognized its absence and the absence of grounds for its payment to the Russian Federation under the existing Agreements ....

and why did you keep silent so modestly about the recognition of Crimea?

So you did not answer about the reasons for his non-recognition of Belarus ...

[Alexga]

Although I did not serve as a deputy politician in the army, I don’t have to hang noodles, I ask again, where did I talk about debt for objects? Now about recognition. You know that since 2006, after the dispersal of the opposition, the state fell under Western sanctions, read the Internet, and the Russian Federation remained on the sidelines, not on the sidelines, they shut off the gas twice, so in 2008 President Medvedev was asked if the Republic of Belarus recognizes South Ossetia and Abkhazia, will the Russian Federation be able to compensate for the losses from the strengthening of sanctions, Medvedev said nothing. And the Crimea is not much different. And now, what happens, you need to take your firmochki out from under the Western blow, but can you sacrifice a foreign state? Simple, you guys.

[Lara Croft]

Quote: AlexGa

Although I did not serve as a deputy politician in the army, I don’t have to hang noodles, I ask again, where did I talk about debt for objects?

You have questioned the absence of the obligation of the Russian Federation to pay its lease of military facilities in the territory of the Republic of Belarus, I have already indicated above how you questioned this fact:
1.

This is about your source:

AlexGa (Alexander) Today, 14:57

2.

What do you think about authenticity here?

AlexGa (Alexander) Today, 14:57

3.

What rules of law in modern interstate relations can be said?

AlexGa (Alexander) Today, 15:16

Even when I wrote:

First of all, I focus on international public law
"Agreement on the procedure for the use and maintenance of the Vileika radio station" and "" Agreement on the procedure for completing the construction and maintenance of the Baranovichi node of the missile attack warning system "

You continued to write anyway:
4.

But when there are links to sources of information that are created to discredit other states and their populations, I cannot agree with this.

AlexGa (Alexander) Today, 15:50

You have consistently written about the inaccuracy of the information I provided, the information on the site to which I gave the link You also rejected as false, indicated the absence of international law, respectively, you recognized not only the Ukrainian site as false, but the Agreement to which it refers too (and meanwhile, it was spelled out that there was no obligation to pay the Russian Federation money for the rental of military facilities located on the territory of the Republic of Belarus) ....
Otherwise, you called the Ukrainian site deceitful, but you agreed with my argument that there is no obligation to pay the Russian Federation money for renting military facilities located in the Republic of Belarus ....

Now, surely goodbye, while I was talking to you again, someone threw minuses for past comments on other branches ...

[Stalllker]

An interesting author, he asked and he himself answered !!! , some personal considerations of the author

[VVK]

It's time to start supporting pro-Russian opposition forces in Belarus! Lukashenko does not apply to these forces.

[wellaut]

It will be cheaper to change Lukashenko

[Andrei Nikolaevich]

It will be cheaper to change Lukashenko
It will be cheaper in general, not to have any business with the "brothers". An example is already there, Ukraine.

[bars1]

In general, the use by Russian diplomacy of the concept of "brotherly people" only harms Russia and gives rise to false illusions in our country.

[Andrei Nikolaevich]

In general, the use by Russian diplomacy of the concept of "brotherly people" only harms Russia and gives rise to false illusions in our country.
GOLD WORDS!!!

[FIR FIR]

He flies off the coils. Maybe we don’t know much, but ...
The examples of Yugoslavia, Iraq, Libya and Syria eloquently show with whom
Lukashenko flirts.
Disagreement with the Russian Federation will become a complete political fiasco of the President of Belarus.

[Vasyan1971]

Although Alexander Lukashenko does not declare his intention not to renew the contract, he has repeatedly hinted that it would be nice for Russia to somehow thank Belarus for the military facilities located on its territory.

He, what did Harvey Vanstein feel at the casting?

[Ratmir_Ryazan]

How much did you pay us after the collapse of the USSR for these two bases? Zero.

It was Belarus that paid nothing to Russia for security, and not vice versa.

For comparison, South Korea pays the United States $ 1 billion a year, because the US bases are located in their country, moreover, since this year the United States has already claimed $ 5 billion.

[Prisoner]

Looks like Lukashenko decided to go along the goat path laid by his Ukrainian colleagues. Well, a flag in hand.

[Sklendarka]

Quote: Captive

Looks like Lukashenko decided to go along the goat path laid by his Ukrainian colleagues. Well, a flag in hand.

It’s better to go on a goat path than as a Captive ichki captive ...

[Prisoner]

Could you translate the last words into Russian? For it’s hard to understand what you mean?

[Sklendarka]

Quote: Captive

Could you translate the last words into Russian? For it’s hard to understand what you mean?

I can translate it, but I don’t want to. It’s a pity that you didn’t serve in the SA, you wouldn’t write such nonsense ...

[Prisoner]

Why didn't he serve? He did not serve for two or three years. Yes, and nonsense, unlike you, I do not write. Take care of your "military" nerves and do not be rude, be so kind.

[Amateur]

Refusal to extend the Minsk life of two Russian military bases in Belarus, ... The first object is the communications center of the Russian Navy, located in the Minsk region.

There is no base in Vileyka. There are 43 communications hub of the Navy. And there are several dozen Russian troops there.

[Andrei Nikolaevich]

So far, Lukashenka is only planning, but from this "cunning" peasant one can expect any nasty things, at any time. Behaves like a woman during PMS. Yanukovych's example does not teach him anything ...

[Sands Careers General]

In addition, according to military expert Konstantin Sivkov, the withdrawal of Russian bases from Belarus would be a political defeat for the Kremlin, so this should not be allowed in any case.

You can’t say better. And he’s like that, he can easily throw a fortel.
So you have to bite the bullet and pay

[Lara Croft]

Quote: Sands Career General

So you have to bite the bullet and pay

What for? To begin with, you can write a claim to RB on repayment of debt on credit and other obligations, the more RB is the largest debtor of the Russian Federation ...
Yes, and there are probably corporate debts of RB enterprises to Russian banks and enterprises .... for starters, you can begin to collect corporate debt from Belarus so that the Old Man does not yell that Putin is to blame for everything ...

[bars1]

Such an important object as a communications center of the Navy should be located on the territory of the Russian Federation, regardless of the warmth of relations with the leadership of Belarus. This also applies to test sites in Kazakhstan.

[Gennady Fomkin]

“You see the pressure today on Belarus, and especially on the president. Already only a lazy, lousy dog ​​does not yap from under the fence in my direction "" Let him go to the fields and tell his collective farmers how to sow, he understands this ".... (c)

He himself came up with pressure, he himself accused of pressure, he was completely mad.

[ximkim]

[quote] [/ quote] Although Alexander Lukashenko does not declare his intention not to renew the contract, he repeatedly hinted that it would be nice for Russia to somehow thank Belarus for the military facilities located on its territory.

Radar "Volga" was built in the USSR to warn about a missile falling on the citizens of a large country. But, the big country is gone, and the people are different. Now the station belongs to the RF Ministry of Defense, and it is necessary to place protection on its territory so that they do not reproach, do not paid, cut the wires or fell behind in some way ..

[jaroff]

Nice sketch. Who benefits from inflating from nothing?

[Old26]

And although Russia now plans to install the over-the-horizon Container radar in the Kaliningrad Region, it will not provide full missile defense for the European part of Russia. Moreover, the Volga radar was originally created to protect against medium and shorter range ballistic missiles. And after the United States withdrew from the treaty, the significance of the station increased even more.

Why compare over-the-horizon and over-the-horizon radar? Or the author has incontinence: why not mention the latest ZGRLS. "Volga" is already morally and physically outdated. Moreover, the iron there is Ukrainian

Quote: Ilya-spb

Question: how long does it take to build two similar bases on the territory of Russia, for example, in the Smolensk, Pskov or Bryansk regions?

How long will it take to build ONE an object (there are no Russian bases on the territory of Belarus) - a communications center of the Navy? Honestly, I don’t know. Radar nafig build when the same "Voronezh" in the Kaliningrad region overlaps the entire surveillance sector of the "Volga" radar?

Quote: Svetlana

Therefore, after the expiration of the terms of the contracts, new contracts are always concluded on new terms, which are the subject of bargaining. A traded two sides in more than one. In this case, Russia is also being traded.
And without an agreement, it’s impossible to establish a base on a foreign territory, albeit an ally.

The contract can be prolonged, and not conclude a new one, if that

[cherkas.oe]

It makes no difference to the Belarusian hohloshumer how to stay in power, whether kissing the Pindotian ambassadors, renaming the Syabrov "great Lithuanians", or destroying over-the-horizon radars. Nothing that the Belarusian xoxol says or does should be surprised.

[Chingachguk]

"We have two military bases of the Russian Federation, high-tech bases on the territory of Belarus. How much did you pay us after the collapse of the USSR for these two bases? Zero."

Here you can eat a cockroach! Buy Sell Belarusian !!! Is this collective farm miracle leading the "fraternal Russia" people? And in what place, if you please ask, is it brotherly? The fact that Crimea does not recognize Russian?
Maybe that requires selling them energy at domestic prices?
Maybe that is constantly trying to blackmail Putin with friendship with the West against him?
Or that it requires preferences from Russia for military bases, on which Belarusians themselves also work, and most importantly, that these bases protect Belarus itself!
Belarus led by Luke parasitizes on the body of Russia !!!!!
And you can at least blame me for death, but this is the case throughout the supposedly independent economy of Belarus !!! Without the help of Russia, without the Russian market, without Russian military bases, I cannot imagine the full existence of this country, to be honest.

[Lara Croft]

Quote: Chingachguk

Belarus led by Luke parasitizes on the body of Russia !!!!!

Can you imagine how it was “happy and fun” when the RSFSR fed 14 such Belarusians?
And what kind of brains people should have and how they hate the Russian Federation when they regret the collapse of the USSR ...

[Chingachguk]

I agree with you completely .....
But one way or another, the Russian Federation feeds them anyway.
In this case, I think they need to be part of the Russian Federation and pay taxes to the treasury of Russia.
Whatever one may say, the maintenance of such republics would then become cheaper and the Gimoroi too. The youth of Belarus are not well-disposed about Russia .... I have relatives living there, this is what I say from their words. Lukashenka does not work badly on this issue. He does not want to leave the post of king and lose his kingdom, but blackmailing Russia is getting worse and worse, already all in debt and crawling into them deeper and deeper.

[NordUral]

Oh, Lukashenko is wrong. Haggle, but not in this.

[Mabius]

Quote: Soviet Union

The author of the article is a provocateur ... shoot.

The author fulfilled the order, but who is the customer and who benefits from this bullying between Russia and Belarus is the question .. And this has been going on for a year! I have never seen a normal article about Belarus, a solid negative sucked out of my finger .. Lukashenko’s words are constantly turned over and snatched out separate phrases .. and inflated, inflated inflate and many are being led into it, because that’s scary ..

[Alexga]

but who is the customer and who benefits from this bullying between Russia and Belarus

I think that this is informational support for attempts by representatives of Russian business to enter the field of the Belarusian economy. This has already happened.

[Mabius]

Quote: AlexGa

but who is the customer and who benefits from this bullying between Russia and Belarus

I think that this is informational support for attempts by representatives of Russian business to enter the field of the Belarusian economy. This has already happened.

Think everything right and notice about the economy and social policy there is practically no information on our website and on the Internet .. And the most powerful enterprises since the times of the USSR have been working in Belarus and not bad. And Lukashenko, the only one of all the former, including Russia, who managed all this save .. Yes, they do not live richly but the social system and other standards of the economy of socialism, he retained and It terribly infuriates some of our oligarchs. The economy of Belarus is primarily the state and the people.
And all the guys sent with bags of money to Belarus and trying to buy everything and everyone, Old Man just kicks him out of the country with a warning that he will imprison if there is still an attempt of raiding and other things ..
That's why they hate him in the West and the fifth column with the oligarchy in Russia!
Hold on to Belarusians, the majority in Russia are for you and your Old Man!
Do not believe "our media" ...

[Chingachguk]

It sounds beautiful - the Belarusian economy.
Tell me, at whose expense does it generally exist? Due to what type of Belarusian economy is developing? Who is the main trading partner? Where and at what prices do you get gas, oil?
After all, who guards your borders?

[faterdom]

For many years we have been giving dad money. Big money. But he needs more.
But all attempts to ask: "What are you to us?" cause fits of anger: "How can you! ?? This is mean! We will leave and find (money, oil, gas, sales markets, manna from heaven ....). We ourselves - with a mustache!"

[Chingachguk]

Belorussians do not like to listen to these things ... They believe that Russia owes them and that they in no way parasitize on the body of the Russian Federation.
And basically people think this is under the age of 35. Those who are older understand that the onions will drive .......

[Azazelo]

Lukashenko on the soap ..... pulled up already ...

[Irek]

But father decided to follow in the footsteps of Userina and the Russian Black Sea Fleet.

[strelokmira]

Well started the oil war, devour the results)

[MITIAI 27]

This article, as well as some comments below it, is a sort of information bomb from the category, not here and not now, but still striving (a little bit quietly like similar articles before it) to set up the Russian people against Lukashenko and Belarus as a whole.

[Chingachguk]

Lukashenko himself is most cool at it - to set up against Belarus, the Russians.

[Phoenix040]

It is better to place new radar warning about a Voronezh-type missile attack on the territory of the Russian Federation than to patch up old Soviet-era junk and depend on the vagaries of a narcophobic patient with a narcissistic Ukrainian who became president of Belarus. Without war, he is ready at any moment to give a damn about the interests of the Russian Federation, and if a war occurs (attack on the Russian Federation) he will betray the Russian Federation without hesitation

[Old26]

Quote: Phoenix040

It is better to place new radar warnings on a missile attack like Voronezh on the territory of the Russian Federation than to patch up old Soviet-era

And they are already placed. Almost the entire perimeter of the territory of Russia. There are three stations under construction now. Vorkuta, Olenegorsk, Sevastopol.

[Orjo79]

First of all, I appeal to Soviet officers, with a request - to stop kicking Belarus, considering the fake article as true. We (the leadership) often not deservedly offend the fraternal people, then we send the governor as an ambassador, then we reproach with shrimps, then we say that the tanks of the Armed Forces of Ukraine are refueled with our diesel fuel through the Belarusians. By the way, the oil plant in Mozyr belongs to a Russian. Claims against the Russian Federation are clearly in two categories of Russians: the first is an oligarchy, which the Old Man does not allow to destroy the Republic of Belarus, and the second is those who are offended for not recognizing Crimea. If the Russian Federation recognizes Crimea as its own, then why don't large companies go there? Sberbank, mobile operators, etc. But because they are afraid of US sanctions. What do we want from Old Man? We are jealous of Lukashenka’s relations with the West, but we would love to kiss them, but they don’t want to. It was not the Belarusian parliamentarians who jumped at the sight of the US congressmen. I admit that they want to embroil us, and first of all the "maydanutye". In all cases, Belarus has strong villages, factories work - can we boast of that? He himself served in 3 types of troops, from Norilsk to the Caucasus Mountains. All the Belarusian soldiers were either smart or very smart, and the officers were just nice to work. There were 6 fellow students of Belarusians at the school, all worthy, we still maintain relations. I apologize for being too expanded, boiling. Sincerely .

[Old26]

Quote: Orjo 79

If the Russian Federation recognizes Crimea as its own, then why don't large companies go there? Sberbank, mobile operators, etc.

What makes you suddenly think that there is no Sberbank and mobile operators? My wife’s aunt lives in Yevpatoriya. There is Sberbank. And her MTS phone ...

[Orjo79]

Specially phoned in the Crimea, the Savings Bank in the Crimea is still not represented, there are no branches and ATMs, there is no way to freely withdraw funds without commission. The people withdraw money from the Sberbank card through other banks, with a commission. The main reason is sanctions. There are interests and branches in many countries of the world, if Sberbank opens at least one branch or ATM in the Crimea, the United States and Europe will immediately impose sanctions on it. In a word, the very cunning and shameful position of the Sberbank, as if it weren’t, but you can withdraw money. For a great country, which is the Russian Federation, this is somehow embarrassing. Similarly with mobile operators. In the Caucasus they say: I got a knife, beat. Or don’t get it. Please look, you will find out that there are still a lot of important structures of the Russian Federation for Crimea that are afraid to enter Crimea.

[Sarcasm]

Quote: Hagen

Quote: prior

Here is a sample provocative article.

"..... Belarus did not take, and will not continue to take money for the deployed Russian military facilities," said President of Belarus Alexander Lukashenko at a meeting with representatives of the public and the expert community, Belarusian and foreign media on March 1.
On January 6, 1995, on the basis of the Russian-Belarusian agreement, the ORTU “Gantsevichi” and the communications center of the Navy “Vileika” together with the land plots were transferred to Russia for 25 years without levying all types of taxes and fees.
“We will not take a penny from you in the future, even if you don’t regulate the tax maneuver, let you have this money. But we won't take a penny from you for the bases, because this is our common security, "said Alexander Lukashenko ...." It was a year ago. I think it is relevant today.

There is nothing permanent in this world, it must be understood that Belarus is a sovereign and independent state and not always the interests and security issues of this state can or will coincide with ours. Belarusians have a long stretch of their history beyond our common history.
In recent years, we traveled at the expense of oil and gas, the funds received from the export of hydrocarbons allowed us to close the mistakes, or even the mediocrity of our leadership. Now, in any case, in the short term, these natural resources will not be able to continue to write off miscalculations for us in the economy, the development of our own industry. Belarus, from the very beginning, lived and developed beyond the opportunities that oil and gas gave us, while Belarus not only did not bury, but also developed its industry. The quality of life, I repeat the quality, the average citizen of Belarus is higher than the quality of life of the average Russian citizen, also there is not that huge gap between the meager class of the rich and the huge number of poor people like us, the level of corruption is lower, the courts work poorly.
In addition, you just need to remember the history of Belarus, and its history, I repeat, is only partly common with modern Russia, and earlier the Grand Duchy of Moscow and the Grand Duchy of Lithuania were not only competitors in the draft of the Russian State after the decline of Kievan Rus, but also rivals, between which there were not one clash. The latter was clearly facilitated by external forces, but not only, because there was also a wars of princes, that is, what we have come to now.
Summarizing - history makes the next round in a spiral. Belarusians in our triumvirate, as it is customary to say, three Slavic peoples, it is the Slavs in the full sense and they are now more attracted to Europe than to us, and the development of the economic crisis here, and in Belarus, will only become a catalyst for the antagonism that exists in the depths. I think our bases will have to be withdrawn from Belarus sooner or later, in any case be prepared for this. Well, let me remind you, there is still a similar naval facility outside our borders, and the activity of our SSBNs depends on it ...

[Old26]

Quote: Orjo 79

Specially phoned in the Crimea, the Savings Bank in the Crimea is still not represented, there are no branches and ATMs, there is no way to freely withdraw funds without commission. The people withdraw money from the Sberbank card through other banks, with a commission. The main reason is sanctions. There are interests and branches in many countries of the world, if Sberbank opens at least one branch or ATM in the Crimea, the United States and Europe will immediately impose sanctions on it. In a word, the very cunning and shameful position of the Sberbank, as if it weren’t, but you can withdraw money. For a great country, which is the Russian Federation, this is somehow embarrassing. Similarly with mobile operators. In the Caucasus they say: I got a knife, beat. Or don’t get it. Please look, you will find out that there are still a lot of important structures of the Russian Federation for Crimea that are afraid to enter Crimea.

In Yevpatoriya, the address of the Sberbank branch is Frunze Street, 65A
There are really no SB ATMs there yet, but without a commission you can withdraw money from a Sberbank card at ATMs Russian National Commercial Bank (RNKB) and bank ATMs Genbank... Just like in the RNKB, you can withdraw money from the Sberbank card without commission. At the ATM of the same Bank "Russia" - with a commission.
As for Russian cellular operators - there is Beeline and MTS - this is with a 100% guarantee

[Orjo79]

Dear old26, to be and to seem are different things! You haven't studied the question, or maybe you just didn't want to. Call, if you are not lazy, to my classmate, he is just from Evpatoria. Karabanov Alexander, + 7 978 586-73-58. Do you know that Russian Railways is not officially in Crimea? And with what pomp the bridge was opened! There are Crimean Railways, Aeroflot - the same. There are no retail chains "Pyaterochka", "Tabris", "Magnet" - continue? Communication. There is no Beeline, but MTS is hiding behind Krasnodar. There is a local "Volna".
And for dessert. At your address, city of Yevpatoriya, Frunze 65a, there is the Russian National Commercial Bank, which has nothing to do with Sberbank. Google and see. If after this information something is not clear to you, please contact. Sincerely.

[Orjo79]

PS Look Besogon TV Mikhalakva, taken off the air. There Gref himself in black in Russian said that today there is no scheme for the work of Sberbank in Crimea. You know, I hope that 40% of Sberbank belongs to the United States, and 29% to the UK? What about gas and oil?

[Your soul.]

I consider the Grodno region strategically successful for the base - a former airfield (it has not been preserved in a very bad condition) in the urban village of Ros - Volkovysk district. In Soviet times there was a large avipolk! A brilliant strategically important place with stunning infrastructure, beauty all around and a large
a new military town - in excellent condition (my mother lived there and I spent the summer there every year with delight)! There was built in 1994 a brilliant military town, there is a famous Plemzavod (state farm - they raise pedigree cattle), magnificent schools, kindergartens for our lads-officer kids. The people there are wonderful !!! See for yourself -----
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2ARFEI8pQpg
Nearby is a wonderful town (the former headquarters of Bagration-Kutuzov) Volkovysk and paradise purity all around and everything is there, and Poland is within easy reach, the Baltic republics ...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=edZuHyUEmTw