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Dmitry Kiselev proposed to erect monuments to Krasnov

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Dmitry Kiselev proposed to erect monuments to Krasnov

The well-known Russian journalist Konstantin Semin, who recently turned into an active video blogger, decided in a rather sharp way to "walk" over the bosses from his former place of work.


A fragment of Dmitry Kiselyov’s program was inserted in his video “The Malice of the Day,” where he mentions the need to erect a monument to General Krasnov, known, for example, for his appeal of the 1941 model “May God help the German arms and Hitler! "

Konstantin Semin points out the fact that everyone who wants to erect a monument to Krasnov, hang a sign in memory of Mannerheim and other similar people, emphasize their activities before the Great Patriotic War. Their own war crimes from the time of the Second World War are, as it were, proposed to be forgotten, and if you look at them, then only through your fingers.

Semin recalls who Krasnov is, recalls the trial that was conducted in the Soviet Union against Krasnov, Shkuro, and the like, who had sworn allegiance to Nazi Germany.

Channel subscribers Konstantin Semin expressed support for the journalist for his assessment. In general, the video is actively discussed in Runet with different ratings.

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  1. Uncle lee
    Uncle lee April 28 2020 13: 52 New
    13
    Krasnova, Shkuro and the like.
    They got their noose what to remember about them!
    1. novel66
      novel66 April 28 2020 13: 56 New
      11
      but forget not a trace! hi
      1. Uncle lee
        Uncle lee April 28 2020 14: 06 New
        10
        Quote: novel xnumx
        forget not a trace!

        We must not forget their crimes, I agree, but remembering them is optional!
        Roma hi
        1. Maverick78
          Maverick78 April 28 2020 14: 53 New
          +9
          That's just necessary ... ignoring these rules, you can oversleep a generation that decides that those who wanted to change everything for the better were hidden from it. And then to prove that this is not so will be problematic. Ukraine is the clearest example.
          1. Tatyana
            Tatyana April 28 2020 18: 01 New
            +7
            Quote: Maverick78
            That's just necessary ... ignoring such traitors, you can oversleep a generation that decides that those who wanted to change everything for the better were hidden from it. And then to prove that this is not so at all will be problematic. Ukraine is the clearest example.

            Already the sprouts of the crust-baked White Guards and Vlasovism, ready to put up with the Western invaders, are observed in the Russian Federation not only "from above", but also in the lower classes.

            It is enough to recall the conciliatory-conciliatory speech of the Russian gymnasium students from Novy Urengoy in the German Bundestag in relation to the German invaders of OUR Motherland.
            It is noteworthy that at the same time, from the German side, no reciprocal repentance in the speeches of German schoolchildren about the German attack on the USSR was mentioned!



            Sabotage against Russia in the Bundestag: performance of a schoolboy from Novy Urengoy
            • Nov 19. 2017 year
        2. Malyuta
          Malyuta April 28 2020 18: 30 New
          12
          Quote: Uncle Lee
          We must not forget their crimes, I agree, but remembering them is optional!

          History does not teach you anything, comrade.
          "... The same Krasnov, whom we released" on
          word of honor, "organized the White Guard Cossacks. He teamed up with
          Mamontov and for two years led an armed struggle against the Soviet
          authorities. It soon turned out that agents were standing behind these white generals.
          Western capitalist states - France, England, America, as well as
          Japan We were convinced of how we were mistaken, showing gentleness. We got it
          from experience that these enemies can be dealt with only if
          apply the most ruthless suppression policy to them.

          I.V. Stalin. ("Conversation with the German writer Emil Ludwig" v.13 p.108.)
          1. Jarserge
            Jarserge April 30 2020 07: 59 New
            +2
            “... It would be a mistake to think that throughout this year we fought on the fronts for the cause of the Russians hostile to the Bolsheviks. On the contrary, the Russian White Guards fought for our cause. "This truth will become unpleasantly sensitive from the moment the white armies are destroyed, and the Bolsheviks establish their rule throughout the vast Russian empire.” Churchill V. World Crisis. Chapter 12
      2. Malyuta
        Malyuta April 28 2020 18: 04 New
        15
        Quote: novel xnumx
        but forget not a trace!

        Let me remind comrades that the Western Russian Orthodox Church also called for a crusade against Bolshevism.
    2. Varyag_0711
      Varyag_0711 April 28 2020 14: 03 New
      20
      Uncle Lee (Vladimir)
      They got their noose what to remember about them!
      It is necessary, since such figures as Kiselev (rare rot * yes) offer to erect monuments such as Krasnov. However, one monument to him exists in Russia. In the Rostov region in the village of Elanskaya there is a whole memorial complex "Don Cossacks in the fight against the Bolsheviks." On the territory of the complex there is a 4-meter monument to the ataman Peter Krasnov, who collaborated with the Nazis during the Great Patriotic War - this monument is visible from afar, it is the central part of the memorial complex. There is also a museum, part of the exhibition dedicated to "volunteer Cossack units that fought on the side of the German Wehrmacht." What is characteristic is that it is very close to Vyoshenskaya and the house-museum of Mikhail Sholokhov, my really outstanding countryman.
      And I still remember the pretzel, in one of its programs I called subhumans people who showed the true attitude of the Russian people to the monument to yet another Judge Solzhenitsyn. It’s from people like him who later turn out to be hairy and red. Now he is drowning for Putin, and if Yeltsin or Hitler come to power, he will also lick his heels with the same faith.
      Seminu my sincere respect!
      1. DMB 75
        DMB 75 April 28 2020 14: 22 New
        17
        I’m not surprised at all. They change color on the fly like chameleons. What kissel, what nightingale. Someone else listens to them, I wonder?
        1. Lexus
          Lexus April 28 2020 16: 17 New
          +8
          Someone else listens to them, I wonder?

          Narrow, mentally ill, "music customers". Yes themselves, "cuckoos" and "roosters".
          "Zhyzha", painting, Vasya Lozhkin (Alexey Vladimirovich Kudelin), Wonderful People's Artist
        2. tihonmarine
          tihonmarine April 28 2020 16: 24 New
          +7
          Quote: DMB 75
          They change color on the fly like chameleons. What a kissel, what a nightingale.

          It can be painted, but the Nightingale at least does not campaign for monuments to fascist mercenaries. And it’s time to drive Kissel with a broom in the ass from TV.
          1. Malyuta
            Malyuta April 28 2020 18: 28 New
            14
            Quote: tihonmarine
            It can be painted, but the Nightingale at least does not campaign for monuments to fascist mercenaries. And it’s time to drive Kissel with a broom in the ass from TV.

            Comrade, are you now attempting to assert that one propagandist ... is better than the other? Ndaa ..., didn’t expect from you ... One defends a mussolini, the other is Krasnov .. and then both two are in the service of the current government, which in turn, lives on our money, and also robs national wealth.
            You already decide which side you are on.
      2. New Year day
        New Year day April 28 2020 14: 31 New
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        Quote: Varyag_0711
        It is necessary, since such figures as Kiselev (rare rot * yes)

        I agree on all 100 and even 1000%

        He rejoices at the Orange Revolution on Khreshchatyk
        1. Machito
          Machito April 28 2020 15: 27 New
          +4
          Pussycat, where is the money? (WITH)
      3. Malyuta
        Malyuta April 28 2020 18: 06 New
        10
        Quote: Varyag_0711
        . In the Rostov region in the village of Elanskaya there is a whole memorial complex "Don Cossacks in the fight against the Bolsheviks." On the territory of the complex there is a 4-meter monument to the ataman Peter Krasnov, who collaborated with the Nazis during the Great Patriotic War - this monument is visible from afar, it is the central part of the memorial complex.

        Curious why the local Cossacks did not destroy him ?! request
    3. polar fox
      polar fox April 28 2020 15: 30 New
      +7
      Quote: Uncle Lee
      They got their noose what to remember about them!

      they got ... the Kiselev-Solovyov’s just itchy neck. They also want ties. I think so.
      1. Malyuta
        Malyuta April 28 2020 18: 07 New
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        Quote: polar fox
        Kiselev-Solovyov’s just itch their neck. They also want ties. I think so.

        All the same, the count is better .... aspen ...
      2. skobars
        skobars April 28 2020 18: 48 New
        0
        Solovyov did not say that.
    4. nikvic46
      nikvic46 April 28 2020 15: 58 New
      +2
      Vladimir Of course, we may not remember, but we are reminded of them. Praising them.
    5. tihonmarine
      tihonmarine April 28 2020 16: 20 New
      +5
      Quote: Uncle Lee
      Krasnova, Shkuro and the like.
      They got their noose what to remember about them!

      Betrayed, condemned, hanged. It should not be otherwise, but where did such adorers of traitors come from. We are outraged by the Poles and Czechs, but our Russians, who are next to us, broadcast and teach us that traitors are heroes. But not only traitors, but even Hitler's General Von Panwitz, is also a hero. This is not insanity, but a real betrayal. And this betrayal does not become smaller, but only increases.
      In what country of the world do traitors become heroes? You will not find such. In some places they erect monuments and elevate them, but these are not countries, but limitrophs.

      Well, it’s already difficult to describe, from which hangover they built it.
  2. bober1982
    bober1982 April 28 2020 13: 52 New
    +9
    In my opinion, such a statement by Kiselev is a deliberate provocation, and for whom all these "pro-government" propagandists are working, the question is.
    1. Victorio
      Victorio April 28 2020 14: 40 New
      -4
      Quote: bober1982
      In my opinion, such a statement by Kiselev is a deliberate provocation, and for whom all these "pro-government" propagandists are working, the question is.

      ===
      ... provocation, pro-government, propagandists ...! but with the "statement" itself is familiar. Semin pulled out the necessary part (from (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oZj1gcg8h7E from 01:50:00) and developed. and the people got excited)
      1. bober1982
        bober1982 April 28 2020 14: 44 New
        -12
        Semin from Kiselyov is not much different.
        1. skobars
          skobars April 28 2020 18: 50 New
          +3
          Justify. Anyone can find fault.
      2. AnderS
        AnderS April 28 2020 17: 54 New
        +1
        provocation, pro-government, propagandists ...! but with the "statement" itself is familiar. Semin pulled out the right part

        And what part is unnecessary? The one where the jelly proposes to erect monuments to Krasnov, Kolchak and other "fighters against Bolshevism" instead of monuments to Lenin? You yourself, the better people like Krasnov and Vlasov, since this is a "provocation" for you?
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        2. Victorio
          Victorio April 29 2020 07: 45 New
          -2
          Quote: AnderS
          provocation, pro-government, propagandists ...! but with the "statement" itself is familiar. Semin pulled out the right part

          And which part is unnecessary? The one where the jelly proposes to erect monuments to Krasnov, Kolchak and other "fighters against Bolshevism" instead of monuments to Lenin? You yourself, the better people like Krasnov and Vlasov, since this is a "provocation" for you?

          ===
          probably everything else did not need a seminar, since he pulled out only a part. check with the seminar, or you can determine for yourself by reviewing the whole plot of Kiselyov. and it’s not worth being rude.
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            2. Victorio
              Victorio April 30 2020 10: 55 New
              -1
              Quote: AnderS
              there is no need on duty excuse here

              ===
              what the excuse? where is she: / probably everything else and did not need seven, once pulled out only part. check with the seminar, or you can determine for yourself by reviewing the whole plot of Kiselyov. and it’s not worth being rude. /

              Quote: AnderS
              different pro.pagan.donov and de.bilov officials

              ===
              if they are stupid people, why are you so smart and not in the place of an official?

              Quote: AnderS
              let me in

              ===
              you wrote, I answered. and if you take it as a suction, your problems

              Quote: AnderS
              I'll figure it out myself

              ===
              sort it out, but why do I need your rudeness?
  3. Lannan Shi
    Lannan Shi April 28 2020 13: 52 New
    13
    And chu Kiselyov then? His job is to glorify the crunch of a roll. And the fact that his "heroes" of the Motherland and wholesale and retail traded .... And the current owners of Kiselev, the better?
    1. Altona
      Altona April 28 2020 14: 17 New
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      Quote: Lannan Shi
      And the current owners of Kiselev the better?

      ------------------------------------
      Nostalgia for fascism is on the top. The major eSeS mayor introduces impersonal digital codes for permission to move around the city. Let me remind you that the assignment of an impersonal code to a person was recognized as a crime against humanity and condemned at the Nuremberg Tribunal. Another major propagandist, who has a popular nickname in the style of "evening jingle bells", talks long and tediously about the "enlightened era" of Giovanni Gentile and Benito Mussolini. And one long-playing ruler of the era everyone wants to foist the title of "Supreme ruler" and "in ..., sorry, leader of the nation", and with his light hand they are read by the philosopher Ivan Ilyin. Permanently praise the "Russian" officer Mannerheim, at the suggestion of a certain Medinsky. And there are plenty of examples of such "nostalgia".
  4. Ross xnumx
    Ross xnumx April 28 2020 13: 54 New
    +9
    It is difficult to add something intelligible immediately after the words about "our contempt." I thought for a long time about what happened over the past month and realized that the coronavirus only more clearly outlined the contempt with which a law-abiding citizen of the country should perceive the pathetic attempts of the current regime to show its significance.
  5. Red Alert
    Red Alert April 28 2020 13: 55 New
    +1
    Comrade Semin.
  6. Red Alert
    Red Alert April 28 2020 13: 56 New
    +7
    Such statements by Kiselyov once again confirm the thesis of the counter-revolution of 1991.
  7. apro
    apro April 28 2020 14: 02 New
    0
    But what isn’t ??? a normal figure struggled with the Jewish Bolsheviks. Respected the Russian flag. Tricolor. Orthodox. Adherent of traditional values. Everything is as it should be ... everything is wrong ??? everything is done like that now in power.
    The Communists had claims against him. And for today's nouveau riche he has his own ...
    1. AU Ivanov.
      AU Ivanov. April 28 2020 17: 58 New
      +3
      The leaders of the White movement also had claims against Krasnov. In particular, Denikin.
      1. Malyuta
        Malyuta April 28 2020 18: 13 New
        +9
        Quote: AS Ivanov.
        The leaders of the White movement also had claims against Krasnov. In particular, Denikin.

        Like Denikin Krasnov expressed concern? Call for battle? What are you writing?
        1. AU Ivanov.
          AU Ivanov. April 28 2020 18: 54 New
          +3
          Not just Denikin summoned Krasnov to battle, but removed him from command as a separatist. As a pest of the White movement. For his pro-German position.
  8. knn54
    knn54 April 28 2020 14: 06 New
    +4
    - focus on their activities before World War II.
    They actively collaborated with the interventionists during the civil war. Krasnova, in particular, was supported by the Kaiser generals.
    He, and especially Shkuro, "let down" the White movement when they sent caravans to the Don with loot with a BIG escort.
    A separatist who proposed to create an "independent" Don Republic.
    He is not "white", as Kisilev and the neo-Cossacks think he is. He is BROWN.
  9. Asad
    Asad April 28 2020 14: 08 New
    +5
    Soloviev Italian fascism justifies! Well, Kiselyov decided to keep up! Ghouls!
    1. New Year day
      New Year day April 28 2020 14: 33 New
      +7
      Quote: ASAD
      Soloviev Italian fascism justifies! Well, Kiselyov decided to keep up!

      and they teach us to love our homeland!
      Quote: ASAD
      Ghouls!
  10. Rusfaner
    Rusfaner April 28 2020 14: 08 New
    +4
    Truly, there is no limit to human stupidity and abomination for the sake of your "barrel of jam and a box of cookies"!
    If you describe in literary Russian the attitude of normal citizens of Russia to its sellers, you get the correct, but long text. And, if extremely short and in essence, then the moderators will be banned!
  11. fruit_cake
    fruit_cake April 28 2020 14: 11 New
    +2
    Dud invited Kiselyov and tried to expose him, but in fact two steam boots, they just work for different clans and against the people of Russia
    1. Altona
      Altona April 28 2020 16: 37 New
      +2
      Quote: fruit_cake
      just work for different clans and against the people of Russia

      -------------------------
      By the way, this suggests that we have no opposition. There are various factions fighting for power. Rhetoric can be very diverse, left, right, liberal, nationalistic. Those who are now "king of the hill" start talking about "monarchy", who are "ready to come to power", they talk about "building correct capitalism" or "correct socialism." But in fact, society is simply being torn apart into hobby groups and manipulated. And instead of a normal rotation of power in the name of the interests of the majority of society, we have talk of "evil liberals" or "other-left", about a "bloody revolution" or "if only there was no war." At the same time, it is not necessary that someone receives money from the State Department or disgruntled oligarchs, they just do it.
  12. Vadim Golubkov
    Vadim Golubkov April 28 2020 14: 13 New
    +2
    Merits before the war ... there are things that cross out everything good ... such as betrayal, especially when they came to kill your people. I think that this is the biggest sin. Moreover, this is not a Civil War. Then in such a way, you can put busts and monuments to the police and Hitler’s servants and say, well, they did so much good before the war ...
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  13. Amateur
    Amateur April 28 2020 14: 21 New
    +5
    We already discussed this yesterday. Well, on jelly, nightingale and other shaved ones you need to react with "feet" - do not watch their programs. The loss of prime time viewers will result in a much faster and more efficient response from TV channel owners. than complaints "in sportloto".
    1. New Year day
      New Year day April 28 2020 14: 34 New
      +7
      Quote: Amateur
      Well, on the kissel, nightingale and other shaving


      YOU just look at their faces!
      1. veritas
        veritas April 28 2020 14: 40 New
        +5
        Quote: Silvestr
        YOU just look at their faces!

        fattened, arrogant shameless, corrupt. Those who pay more will be torn for that.
        1. Amateur
          Amateur April 28 2020 15: 01 New
          +2
          Pyotr Nikolayevich Krasnov and other convicts were sentenced by the Military Collegium of the Supreme Court of the USSR to death by hanging on the day of the last court hearing on January 16, 1947 at 19:39 Moscow time, an hour later on the same day at 20:45 in the Lefortovskaya courtyard prison sentence was carried out

          The main elements of the offenses and crimes associated with insulting the memory of the Great Patriotic War are: Nazism rehabilitation (Article 354.1 of the Criminal Code),

          On the basis of Article 354.1 of the Criminal Code of the Russian Federation, citizen Kiselev D.K. , Born in 1954 subject to criminal prosecution.
          But
          "The severity of Russian laws is mitigated by the non-binding nature of their implementation."
          Mikhail Evgrafovich Saltykov-Shchedrin.

          And one more classic quote, but adjusted to current realities:
          Who will plant him. He is monument symbol
  14. Old partisan
    Old partisan April 28 2020 14: 21 New
    +4
    Yes, the matter is not in Semin, not in Ivanovo, and not in Petrov. The fact is that power and people in power completely lost the coast. Or brains drank. I don’t even know what to name them ....
    It remains to erect a monument to the great fighter against communism, the traitor Vlasov. B ... and
  15. Victorio
    Victorio April 28 2020 14: 28 New
    -4
    It’s as if invited to forget their war crimes from the time of the Second World War, and iflook at them, then only through your fingers.
    ====
    well, it’s not so at Kisilev’s show (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oZj1gcg8h7E from 01:50:00)
  16. Prisoner
    Prisoner April 28 2020 14: 29 New
    +2
    And why is Kiselev better than the Bandera remnants and degenerates of the Baltic Natsik? Monuments are also being erected to Hitler's lackeys.
    1. New Year day
      New Year day April 28 2020 14: 34 New
      +5
      Quote: Captive
      And why is Kiselev better than the Bandera remnants and degenerates of the Baltic Natsik?

      nothing. They will pay - Hitler will glorify
      1. Victorio
        Victorio April 28 2020 14: 44 New
        -4
        Quote: Silvestr
        Quote: Captive
        And why is Kiselev better than the Bandera remnants and degenerates of the Baltic Natsik?

        nothing. They will pay - Hitler will glorify

        ===
        Well, well, declare it to Kiselyov’s face, and then answer in court for libel. but when you prove it, you'll try on the stars here.
  17. veritas
    veritas April 28 2020 14: 35 New
    +4
    A fragment of Dmitry Kiselyov’s program was inserted in his video “The Malice of the Day,” where he mentions the need to erect a monument to General Krasnov, known, for example, for his 1941 appeal “May God help German weapons and Hitler!”

    One of the main mouthpieces of the propaganda of today's state policy proposes to erect monuments to fascist minions. What's this? Where is the country heading?
  18. Maks1995
    Maks1995 April 28 2020 15: 50 New
    +2
    What did you want ??? They push the anti-Soviet as hard as they can.
  19. nikvic46
    nikvic46 April 28 2020 16: 06 New
    0
    No, no, and an article about the greatness of the tsarist generals flashes. And it is possible that those people praising them have a sacred thought. Is it possible to do something that the leaders of the White Guard movement could not do. Otherwise, it makes no sense how to raise them to heaven.
  20. Fedorovich
    Fedorovich April 28 2020 17: 23 New
    0
    And I personally - in favor, but on one condition. If all of them - red, hairy and other skins - will be depicted planted on a stake.
    1. AU Ivanov.
      AU Ivanov. April 28 2020 17: 56 New
      +2
      This is historically false. They were not put on a stake. They should be shown hanging on a gallows.
      1. Fedorovich
        Fedorovich April 29 2020 08: 18 New
        0
        I think in this case one can deviate a little from historical accuracy in favor of expressiveness.
  21. skobars
    skobars April 28 2020 18: 44 New
    0
    Kiselyov, the Kremlin’s mouth, turned out to be a nit, his dad probably was either a Vlasov or Bandera man.
  22. Phoenix040
    Phoenix040 April 28 2020 20: 47 New
    +3
    Deprive Hitler’s lackeys of Russian citizenship and send to Ukraine, or to one of the sprat misunderstandings and let them jump there, together with the Krasnovs !!!
  23. Yury Siritsky
    Yury Siritsky April 29 2020 11: 07 New
    0
    It can't be like that. to Kiselev suggested this.
  24. Lara Croft
    Lara Croft April 30 2020 23: 11 New
    0
    Thanks to the presenter, I often watch his program, but that one got right up to the liver ... Russian schoolchildren should know the traitors of their people and because of whom they could not appear in this world ....
  25. Arkady Gaidar
    Arkady Gaidar 20 June 2020 12: 53 New
    0
    One-sidedness in considering the issue is not entirely clear. Of course, Konstantin Semin is right, we are talking about the traitors Krasnov, Kolchak, etc. But in extolling Lenin, this author somehow forgot that this comrade is also a traitor to the Motherland. He was a citizen of the Russian Empire, against which he committed all his political actions. Why not remember this?
    Conclusion: Some authors brainwash us in the direction of their ideas, others in defense of their ideas. And each such author drags people to his side. And objectivity and impartiality, what, where? Why are these last things when there is a war for the minds? laughing hi