How doctors help in Russia


I live in one of the million-plus cities. I am on "self-isolation with salary preservation", since the work of a programmer is possible remotely. My wife is a pediatrician.


On the morning of April 28, they called the apartment. Doctors It turned out that a confirmed case of COVID-19 was revealed in the entrance.

I asked the doctor a lot of questions. Here are a few questions with answers:

- Can I attend work if the governor’s decree allows the company to work?

- Yes.

- Do I need to draw up a sick leave?

- Нет.

- Wife doctor, how to work?

- Call by phone from a piece of paper.

Officials asked by phone numbers to call back twenty minutes later, because they themselves did not know, but in the end they concluded that the wife should work, but in general - at the discretion of the employer. The employer said to call a doctor, take sick leave for two weeks. But officials, when trying to call a doctor, said that no hospital wife was supposed to work.

(Readers who may be unfamiliar with history question, I will briefly retell what happened in the City Clinical Hospital № 1 in Yekaterinburg. According to some reports, the doctor contracted infection from a neighbor on the porch, continued to work, infected the entire hospital, after which the hospital was closed. According to others, she got infected from her husband - with the same result for State Clinical Hospital No. 1.)

So, retelling the opinions of officials to the wife’s employer, we were shocked by him and promised to sort it out. Result: according to Rospotrebnadzor, the wife has no right to work, but she is not supposed to be sick. Like this. When asked by the employer what to do with the doctor, officials replied that this was not their problem.

Bottom line: the wife is forced to take her annual paid leave and spend it at home. She has less than two weeks of vacation, so the remainder of the period is vacation at her own expense.

I want to thank the government of the Russian Federation for helping doctors during the epidemic.
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  1. Catfish April 29 2020 06: 00 New
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    I want to thank the government of the Russian Federation for helping doctors during the epidemic.

    This is still nothing, but these "guardians for the good of the people" the devils what they can think of, that’s scary.
    1. Stas157 April 29 2020 06: 05 New
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      Dentists work in simple masks that do not save. And every patient with an open mouth breathes directly to the dentist's face. These doctors are clearly at risk. But they are not supposed to pay any additional payments or special protection there. Here is such a "care" about doctors.
      1. codetalker April 29 2020 06: 24 New
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        Dental offices are closed for scheduled appointments ...
        1. Stas157 April 29 2020 06: 36 New
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          I don’t know what is closed there, but my wife, a dentist at DKSP, works every day, takes patients. You go to any clinic - everything is open and the doctors are working. Maybe the recording stopped working, but if you have a sharp pain or just make an appointment - no one will refuse you.
          1. kjhg April 29 2020 06: 59 New
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            Quote: Stas157
            Maybe the recording stopped working, but if you have a sharp pain or just make an appointment - no one will refuse you.

            That's right. The day before yesterday I called our hospital about a dentist. They said that it accepts only for urgent cases, there is no entry.
            1. Stas157 April 29 2020 07: 54 New
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              Now specifically consulted. There is no entry for adults. A children's reception is fully operational. Doctors are all at work.
          2. carstorm 11 April 29 2020 09: 17 New
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            So, for example, Decree of the Mayor of the city of Moscow dated 25.03.2020 No. 28-UM temporarily (without specifying a specific period) temporarily suspends the provision of dental services with the exception of diseases and conditions requiring the provision of dental care in an emergency or urgent form.
            This is for you as an example.
            1. Stas157 April 29 2020 09: 25 New
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              Quote: carstorm 11
              So, for example, the Decree of the Mayor of Moscow

              Dmitry, you say that in Russia, dentists does not work? Ready to argue (for interest)?
              1. carstorm 11 April 29 2020 09: 36 New
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                I did not say that. I’m just an example to you, one example of the fact that work, for example, is limited in Moscow. we have the same. On non-working days, announced by the President of the country before April 30, dentistry changed its mode of operation.
                They will temporarily receive citizens only with acute pain, postponing non-urgent procedures. the regions decide how they work in their own way.
                1. Stas157 April 29 2020 10: 07 New
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                  Quote: carstorm 11
                  I did not say that. I just

                  And then what do you dispute, I can’t understand you, that doctors don’t risk or go to work? Let me remind you, initially I wrote about riskwhich dentists expose themselves to.
                  And if adult doctors have some restrictions on admission, then children's ones do not.
                  1. carstorm 11 April 29 2020 10: 25 New
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                    I repeat, I'm just an example, an example of the limitation of the work of dentistry. you said you don’t know what is closed there. I replied. everything is extremely simple.
            2. New Year day April 29 2020 09: 47 New
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              Quote: carstorm 11
              Decree of the Moscow Mayor of 25.03.2020 No. 28-UM

              Extends to the urban health system. Other forms of ownership - at its discretion
              1. carstorm 11 April 29 2020 09: 58 New
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                all closed. all emergency are sent to city clinics. Peter Moscow. on the forums because of this I see a bunch of mats. I'm reading right now.
            3. Galleon April 29 2020 13: 13 New
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              And for you, for example, a private dental shop is working in my house. And Sobyanin is not a decree.
              1. Okolotochny April 29 2020 19: 59 New
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                So write a complaint !!! Or like in the movie with Raikin: “I watched a cigarette butt for four hours, but no one picked it up”? Are you positioning yourself “right”? So show yourself in business. I’ll make it easier for you - a complaint to Rospotrebnadzor.
          3. Okolotochny April 29 2020 19: 55 New
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            Your spouse and her leadership are simply breaking the law. Do you brag about it? And announce her last name and where does she work? Restorable legality. Are you worried about legality in your comments? Let's start with you.
        2. Stas157 April 29 2020 06: 40 New
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          . Result: according to the Rospotrebnadzor, the wife does not have the right to work, but she is not entitled to a sick leave. Like this. When asked by the employer what to do with the doctor, officials answeredThat is not their problem.

          And yesterday, someone was talking with another appeal:
          . I repeat: we are obliged to act in the same way as before, and if necessary, take immediate measures
          1. Roman123567 April 29 2020 09: 35 New
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            we are obliged to act in the same way as before, and if necessary, take immediate action

            And was there anything about the buildup ??
            Is there any time ??
            1. lis-ik April 29 2020 18: 30 New
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              Quote: Roman123567
              And was there anything about the buildup ??
              Is there any time ??

              No! There is no time for buildup, as always.
          2. Andrey NM 3 May 2020 11: 42 New
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            By introducing a regime of widespread self-isolation, prohibiting the population from working, and introducing fines for violating the "self-isolation" regime, the authorities actually introduced a regime of compulsory isolation with suspension from work with the suspicion that the population is without exception an infected person. The ban on work is in fact a recognition of the impossibility of the authorities to provide the population with other work.
            Here is an excerpt from 52-FZ "On the sanitary and epidemiological welfare of the population":
            1. Patients with infectious diseases, persons suspected of such diseases and persons who have been in contact with patients with infectious diseases, as well as those who are carriers of infectious diseases, shall be subject to laboratory examination and medical supervision or treatment, and if they pose a danger to others, it is mandatory hospitalization or isolation in the manner prescribed by the legislation of the Russian Federation.
            2. Persons who are carriers of infectious disease pathogens, if they can be sources of the spread of infectious diseases in connection with the particularities of the production in which they are employed or the work performed by them, with their consent, are temporarily transferred to other work not related to the risk of the spread of infectious diseases . If it is impossible to transfer on the basis of decisions of the chief state sanitary doctors and their deputies, they temporarily suspended from work with social security benefits.
      2. The leader of the Redskins April 29 2020 06: 53 New
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        I want to thank the government of the Russian Federation for helping doctors during the epidemic.
        So I drew attention to this paragraph. Literally, half an hour ago I finished the comment with the same gratitude, but regarding one author on VO and ... I received a comment for trolling!
        How interesting it turns out - you can write in an article, but a ban in the comments ...
      3. Shopping Mall April 29 2020 08: 16 New
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        Quote: Stas157
        Dentists work in simple masks that do not save. And every patient with an open mouth breathes directly to the dentist's face. These doctors are clearly at risk. But they are not supposed to pay any additional payments or special protection there. Here is such a "care" about doctors.


        Actually, any doctor is at risk, since any patient can be infected, and you need to communicate with him and treat him. The coronavirus tests are done for 4 days, although there are tests that can be done right away, but they are more expensive and can be found only in ambulance.
        1. New Year day April 29 2020 09: 49 New
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          Quote: AVM
          Actually, any doctor is at risk

          Our ophthalmologist got sick after selecting glasses, one of the female ones turned out to be
      4. Roman123567 April 29 2020 09: 34 New
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        The doctor needs the mask in order not to infect the patient ..
        This is always practiced, because in addition to the virus, the doctor can be sick with a dozen other diseases, and all this will fly into the mouth of the client (the patient on the operating table)
        And at the expense of surcharges .. about 6 years ago I treated my teeth, prices were from 2 to 4 thousand ..
        2 years ago he turned - 8tys with a penny gave for one tooth .. Like "sorry, the prices have risen a bit" ..
    2. siberalt April 29 2020 06: 06 New
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      There is no point in writing comments. "Patriots" zaminusut without explanation.
      1. Catfish April 29 2020 06: 08 New
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        And to hell with them, what to take from them besides analysis.
        1. knn54 April 29 2020 07: 24 New
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          -Sea cat: .. what to take from them except analysis.
          Abram carries a three-liter jar of yellow liquid. Towards Chaim.
          - Abram, where are you going?
          - To the clinic. I carry urine for analysis.
          - Why so much?
          - And not to say that the Jews are greedy.
          An hour later, Abram goes back and carries the same full can.
          “Abram, why are you carrying the can back?”
          - They found sugar in my urine. Do you not think, Chaim, that I will give them sugar for nothing ?!
          Judging by the comments, the attitude in the regions towards doctors and patients is fundamentally different.
          It is hoped that the “Upstairs” will draw appropriate conclusions about the heads of the relevant services in the field.
      2. kjhg April 29 2020 07: 06 New
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        They have a hot season now. The rating is nullified in danger due to the fact that it is necessary to survive forced self-isolation without allocating financial assistance to the people from the state. No, one in a hundred of course will be given a penny and spread to the whole country. And the rest, as always - NOTHING.
        1. carstorm 11 April 29 2020 09: 20 New
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          financial assistance to the people? you can multiply for example 1000 by 146 million how much will you get?
          1. Roman123567 April 29 2020 09: 37 New
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            you can multiply for example 1000

            And we all pay taxes far from 1000 ..
            So consider how much comes out .. tear from the people ..
            1. carstorm 11 April 29 2020 09: 39 New
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              what does it have to do with it? I asked about something else.
          2. Avior April 29 2020 09: 47 New
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            146 billion will be released
            The size of the NWF is 8,3 trillion.
            And not everyone needs help, by the way.
            After all, many work.
            1. carstorm 11 April 29 2020 10: 00 New
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              and not every 1000 should be given to everyone, but a minimum cost of living.
              1. Avior April 29 2020 10: 03 New
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                how much they wrote, so much I calculated
                if you really need to give 15 percent of 10-20 thousand is about 300 billion
                1. carstorm 11 April 29 2020 10: 26 New
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                  I think more. only one month and then? all who have closed are likely to not come to life again. here, simply by distributing money, the issue cannot be resolved. I about it. they will be eaten, and then we need to live on.
                  1. Leshy1975 April 29 2020 11: 19 New
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                    Quote: carstorm 11
                    here, simply by distributing money, the issue cannot be resolved. I about it. they will eat and then you need to live

                    That's right! Indeed, he ate, and that’s all, help is not visible, as then you will check what was.
                    Help should not be given to those who do not have enough for food, but to those who do not have enough for a yacht. This is a state approach!
                    You won’t pass the yacht, then you can always see this help forever and you can see for sure that yes, indeed, they helped you - here it is a yacht.
                    Well and again, there will be a reason for pride. We’ll make another prince of Saudi mega-yacht. And rightly so, let them not lift their nose there, but they know ours! laughing

                    PS I hope not much offended. hi
                    1. carstorm 11 April 29 2020 11: 56 New
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                      I do not count on help, in principle, in life, so I’ll say from my bell tower. I TALK ABOUT OTHER! if giving people just money doesn’t solve the problem, it only slows them down a bit. business needs to be helped. to anyone. from small to large.
            2. New Year day April 29 2020 15: 22 New
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              Quote: Avior
              146 billion will be released
              The size of the NWF is 8,3 trillion.

              in fact, there is money in the country, but it is not about our honor. It would seem that everyone should tighten their belts at such a moment, but someone on the contrary, dissolves the belt and grows fat.

              Undoubtedly, curbs, lawns and sidewalks are now the most important in Moscow. am
              1. Golovan Jack April 29 2020 15: 40 New
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                in fact, there is money in the country, but it’s not about our honor

                A beautiful demotivator, doctor, it seems that the artist has died in you.
                But he did not die to the end - as a true artist, the information you submit is not "as it is," but "as you see it" laughing

                I’ll clarify a bit, do not blame me:

                ... according to the OSINT Miracles telegram channel, AKP Stroy-Invest (owners Zhitnitskaya Margarita Aleksandrovna, Pavlovsky Artyom Vyacheslavovich) received two contracts for work on the improvement of the territory around the stations under construction of the Great Ring Line "Zyuzino" and "Vernadsky Prospekt". The total value of the two contracts amounted to 1,1 billion rubles ...

                - the telegram channel “OSINT Miracles” is an awesome source of information, certainly worthy of trust, but
                - raking dirt around the newly built stations - this, of course, is precisely the "curbs". Without any doubt yes
                - And where does Solovyov - for me personally, it is not yet clear.

                Something like that. Doctor negative
          3. kjhg April 29 2020 12: 34 New
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            Quote: carstorm 11
            financial assistance to the people?

            Exactly. For each month home arrest in the amount of a living wage. Specifically, each person, including a woman, Nyur, a pensioner, her 10-year-old grandson Anton, miner Anatoly, cook Anastasia, trucker Sergey, etc. This is not the help of the state, but its duty. So they do in all civilized countries. This money, unlike the money allocated to help friends of Putin, will not be withdrawn abroad. This money will directly go to small and medium-sized businesses, which will spur demand for raw materials from large businesses and support economic growth. This will be comparable to a blood transfusion to a patient dying from a lack of blood.
            Quote: carstorm 11
            you can multiply for example 1000 by 146 million how much will you get?

            Now about the mathematical side of this question. A monthly payment to each citizen in the amount of a living wage will cost less than 2 trillion. rubles. 2 months, respectively 4 trillion. This is quite a lift for the stabilization fund. This is the first help option.
            The second option is to support citizens. Cancellation of fees for all utilities services at the time of home arrest for those who fall into this category. Credit holidays to these people, i.e. postponement of the termination of payments on loans by 6 months. Cancellation of all types of taxes for this period. Abolition of taxes for 6 months to all businessmen forced to quarantine. How much this will require funds, I can not say for sure. But, sq.m. this amount will be less than the first option. If significantly more, then in order to not put a heavy burden on the budget, we can agree with banks and resource-supplying companies (Gazprom, Vodokanals, Heat networks, Energy-supplying companies, etc.) on tax holidays for that part of their tax obligations to the state , which fell under the credit holidays and holidays for paying for services zh.kh.
            An entire article can be written on how the state can survive at low oil and gas prices and providing voiced assistance. Now I will not paint it all, but, believe me, this is quite real.
            But our country, as always, has chosen the worst option for overcoming the crisis, when ordinary people who are not working in the public sector and small and medium-sized businesses will suffer the most.
      3. Lannan Shi April 29 2020 07: 57 New
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        Quote: siberalt
        "Patriots" zaminusut without explanation.

        Not patriots, but putriots. Patriots for the good of the Motherland, and putriots ... For the good you yourself know who. And a default putriot cannot be a patriot. For the good of the country and the nullified lie in different planes of being. Not intersecting each other.
      4. AUL
        AUL April 29 2020 08: 03 New
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        Quote: siberalt
        "Patriots" zaminusut without explanation.

        Are you down on their downsides? Neglect! The bad memory of the "order" has not disappeared, it functions from the subtle.
        1. Okolotochny April 29 2020 20: 01 New
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          Have you suffered from it? Or "The Phantom wanders into VO"? Drink a sedative.
      5. Golovan Jack April 29 2020 08: 44 New
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        What a touching brawl fellow

        Quote: siberalt
        clam without explanation

        Quote: Sea Cat
        and to hell with them, what to take from them besides analysis

        Quote: kjhg
        need to survive forced self-isolation without financial assistance to the people

        Quote: Lannan Shi
        Patriots for the good of the Motherland, and putriots ... For the good you yourself know who. And the default putriot cannot be a patriot

        Quote: AUL
        The bad memory of the "order" has not gone away, it functions from the bottom

        Nice looking ... you whine, whine yes

        By the way, about the birds: the "Order" remained only in your nightmares. Observer 2014, Mordvin, the Glory of Sobakin, Topping, I can still name a dozen - they will not let me lie. No more "Order", have fun - read, sing, dance. Fighters with a redhead. Domesticated laughing
        1. Terenin April 29 2020 10: 26 New
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          Quote: Golovan Jack
          The "order" remained only in your nightmares. Observer 2014, Mordvin, Glory of Sobakin, Topping,

          I read their comments. Nothing special no What is the Order for?
          1. Golovan Jack April 29 2020 10: 41 New
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            Quote: Terenin
            What is the Order for?

            1. Terenin April 29 2020 11: 02 New
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              Quote: Golovan Jack
              https://topwar.ru/147405-orden-torkvemady-na-voennom-obozrenii-smeh-skvoz-slezy.html

              Not found anything no
              I recall that on the "revision detector" admins, to a nickname, pasted (maybe even now) orders for the "best attribution and definition" ... etc.
              1. Golovan Jack April 29 2020 11: 06 New
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                Quote: Terenin
                Not found anything

                Yes, nothing was special. But some - you see - are still scared:

                Quote: siberalt
                "Patriots" zameusut without explanation

                Quote: AUL
                The bad memory of the "order" has not gone away, it functions from the bottom

                A year and a half (judging by the date of the article about the "Order") has passed ... and they all seem to hell belay
            2. Dym71 April 29 2020 15: 18 New
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              Quote: Golovan Jack
              Quote: Terenin
              What is the Order for?


              Thank you for the link, Roman. hi
              However, the noble "booze" missed. crying
        2. AUL
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          Quote: Golovan Jack
          By the way, about the birds: the "Order" remained only in your nightmares.

          As for nightmares, you greatly overestimate the significance of this "collective." In addition to squeamishness, it does not cause me anything.
          Well, and a little tsifiri:
          From 15.03 to 29.04 this year you received
          - 1033 "+" in 221 posts (based on the results of the post);
          - 2346 "-" in 377 posts (using the same methodology).
          Total -1313 is not in your favor.
          During the same period, your rating increased from 234587 to 332018, that is, increased by 97!
          Nightmares, speak?
          You can not thank for the work done - am having fun on self-isolation, as I can.
          PS An offer to the site administration. I already wrote about this, I repeat once again.
          1. Toy epaulets do not in the least reflect the real rating of a forum participant. I gave an example above, it confirms.
          2. Instead of shoulder straps, I suggest publishing ministatistics: total number of posts / number of pluses received / number of minuses received.
          3. Reset all ratings, start all over from scratch. Zeroing is now in trend!
          I think such innovations will not cause any difficulties for system administrators - the site engine allows this.
          I hope for your answer.
          1. Golovan Jack April 29 2020 14: 05 New
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            Total -1313 is not in your favor

            I hope it’s not a secret for you that the plus / minus of the “cranial” and “marshal” have slightly different weight?

            From here and dance. So far, all your (certainly necessary and useful) research is about nothing. My regrets request

            Quote: AUL
            I gave an example above, it confirms

            Ay-yai-yay ... my friend, in real life I can fill such a face yes
            1. Malyuta April 29 2020 14: 45 New
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              Quote: Golovan Jack
              No more "Order", have fun - read, sing, dance. Fighters with a redhead. Domesticated

              Quote: Golovan Jack
              I hope it’s not a secret for you that the plus / minus of the “cranial” and “marshal” have slightly different weight?

              I am very sorry hi but it turns out people write here with your permission? Some sort of order of "trichamanoses" came up with ...
              It is necessary to treat yes
              And I think that you’re a tyranny like that, it turned out to be a regular flood master, but it's still hard for you and everything is going on about “Lego” a so-so pension joke, it will be more fun with the “Trichamanada”, but all one is primitive, sedimented and the tastelessness is complete .
              PySy. It turned out that the “Marshal” is not real, that’s why you are not very respected, right? Keep yourself in control. The eye is always with you. hi
            2. AUL
              AUL April 29 2020 14: 48 New
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              Quote: Golovan Jack

              I hope it’s not a secret for you that the plus / minus of the “cranial” and “marshal” have slightly different weight?

              Imagine - not a secret. And I already wrote about this once to you, you probably just forgot. According to your logic, do the marshals only give you pros, and only the skulls as cons?
              From here and dance. So far, all yours (certainly necessary and useful) research is about nothing. My regrets
              Don't you think that in this thesis you contradict yourself? Or you can object to something essentially?
              Quote: AUL
              I gave an example above, it confirms

              Ay-yai-yay ... my friend, in real life I can fill such a face yes

              1. And what do you disagree with in my example (specifically)?
              2. "I can fill such a face yes“- I forgive you, as I forgive the other dogs who gaze at me from the gateway. By the way, your last name, by the hour, is not Zolotov?”
              3. About the "buddy" - here you are in a hurry! I am very scrupulous and squeamish in choosing friends!
              1. Golovan Jack April 29 2020 15: 11 New
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                Quote: AUL
                Quote: i
                From here and dance. So far, all yours (absolutely necessary and useful) research - about nothing. My regrets

                Don't you think that in this thesis you contradict yourself?

                Google "sarcasm", perhaps, it will become clearer to you. All your other verses - by, sorry.

                Shah, I got out of the swara, I need to work, you know ... my friend laughing
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                  Quote: Golovan Jack
                  Google "sarcasm", perhaps, it will become clearer to you. All your other verses - by, sorry.

                  Consequently, there will be no specifics, only sheer arrogance. Well, I didn’t count on specifics, one blah blah blah ...
                  1. Lexus April 29 2020 15: 47 New
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                    Therefore, the specifics will not be

                    And what could be the specifics? Does it admit that its rating is wound by the same premature "marshals"? At the same time, the relatively "freshly" cardboard "leaders" at the finish, before landing on a leaning rod, showed amazing quickness: "Greek" +40 thousand per shift, Terenin + 25 thousand, Nyrobsky +23 thousand, Paranoid (half a hundred) + 18 thousand. Reptile herself rushed into the generals with an acceleration of +25 thousand in less than a day. Have you seen decent comments from them? I'm not. As well as from the "decrepit" cucumber and 65 orphans.
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                      Quote: lexus
                      At the same time, the relatively "freshly" cardboard "leaders" at the finish, before landing on a leaning rod, showed amazing quickness: "Greek" +40 thousand per shift, Terenin + 25 thousand, Nyrobsky +23 thousand, Paranoid (half a hundred) + 18 thousand. Reptile herself rushed into the generals with an acceleration of +25 thousand in less than a day. Have you seen decent comments from them? I'm not. As well as from the "decrepit" cucumber and 65 orphans.

                      Ops, Lexus, so in your "friendly" collection about the order, I thought that it was you with Malyuta, Lananshi, Stas ... And it turns out that I am with indecent comments? Thanks for reading. Slow down the horse, Marshal, otherwise you will fall.
                    2. Okolotochny April 29 2020 20: 04 New
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                      Leksyasha, look at your rating, with whom and in the articles on what topics (in Russia) it is catching up. Chew better and be silent. tongue fool
                      1. Pete mitchell April 30 2020 11: 48 New
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                        Good morning gentlemen. This is how to understand: listen, so everyone on the side cons, proudly so with pathos; but if they appear, then the Order is to blame. It smells of liberalism, you understand double standards ... It seems to me that sooner or later they will reincarnate it, it’s difficult them without him.
              2. Lexus April 29 2020 15: 15 New
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                "I can fill this face yes "

                Brave only in words, and when Stroporez agreed to visit it, the drawers were wet. Now the compassionate "master", Svarog51, will appear. Accept his apologies and be sympathetic. In his "position" everything happens. Moreover, when there is a similar skunk in the pack.
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                1. Golovan Jack April 29 2020 15: 43 New
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                  Quote: Silvestr
                  I don’t allow you to give a full description of the site’s rules, but you can put it in one word ... but again the rules do not allow

                  Mutually, my friend ... keep quiet, at Brudershaft yes
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                    Quote: Golovan Jack
                    Mutually, my friend ..

                    so I don’t bother you, it’s you who bother everyone like a bath sheet to the pope. And in each case, moralizing. Have you taken God for your beard? Offended by attention, not enough love and affection? Or maybe a bread? The feeling is that you are offended by life, you are underestimated by ours. Complexes must be treated!
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                      Quote: Silvestr
                      Complexes need to be treated

                      Well, heal. What am I doing? I'm just without complexes request

                      Man, are you tired of constantly lying and juggling? Apparently not. And here I am - tired of looking at it. I understand, I hope yes
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                        And here I am - tired of looking at it.

                        do not look. I do not look at you. And then, with such conceit, it’s time to go to the doctor
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                        Quote: Silvestr
                        do not look

                        I can not. I'm allergic to lies.

                        Quote: Silvestr
                        with such conceit it’s time to go to the doctor

                        Well, certainly not to you ... out, about the "Solovyov’s company with borders" - once again they threw it into the bushes. Answer in detail that you are all treating me? I don’t need your treatment ... buddy request
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              1. AUL
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                And not for nothing that I touched on this topic! See how the orderly ones (which, as it were, are not) rushed together to sculpt their big-boiled minuses! This is an organization, this is efficiency, this is discipline!
                Trying in vain, gentlemen! I know the price of YOUR rating, therefore I saw your minuses on in a piquant situation. And everyone has long known this price.
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                  Quote: AUL
                  And not for nothing that I touched on this topic

                  In vain. You specifically - in general in vain climbed into this subject, IMHO. We ended up in a bad company, like a young lady, right.

                  Quote: AUL
                  This is an organization, this is efficiency, this is discipline

                  Remember, I said, who will come running into the noise? So, everyone but “Svarog” escaped - it’s strange, he’s usually the first one, hasn’t his kind friend been ill?

                  There, yes, discipline and efficiency. The local troll is generally very well organized. And there are a lot of them, hence the disadvantages that are quantitatively superior to the pros yes

                  Quote: AUL
                  everyone has long known this price

                  It’s you again in vain. And for "all" - and even more so in vain. Well, yes, each blacksmith for himself, adults, that I will teach you something ... only to spoil request
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      There is no point in writing comments. "Patriots" zaminusut without explanation.

      Well, for now, the opposite is happening.
      And here is a question for you - why?
      And yes, you were mistaken - "putriots".
      This is from the filing of Lannon Shea.
  2. Far B April 29 2020 06: 58 New
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    This is still nothing, but these “guardians for the good of the people” the devils can guess what, that's scary
    But what happens in the last two months, and so it is very suitable for the definition of “dash cho,” does not even need to be finalized with a file. So it's not at all
    It's nothing else
    Of course, they can even aggravate (for some reason, I never doubt it), but this will no longer be a dash, but a complete northern fur. Something like that, I think.
  3. EvilLion April 29 2020 08: 19 New
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    These guardians are the same as everyone else who, if you make God to pray, will break your foreheads.
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    How doctors help in Russia
    What kind of doctors are there? Is that a question?
    Ukraine passed a law on the sale of land - this is an event! In the News section, lemmings are raging, snot and tears are flowing! The problem of the century for Russia is the Ukrainian land! And you about some doctors there!
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    the depth of the fall of the country depends on the flight of thought of the rulers
  • Doccor18 April 29 2020 06: 07 New
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    Faced the same problem, but without any problems the relative-doctor served 14 days in quarantine. Decorated as a hospital. It seems that such things were completely left to the local authorities.
    1. Cruorvult April 29 2020 06: 25 New
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      Well, when was it different, did Putin write out sick leave before?

      People have a short memory, they forgot Yeltsinovsky: "Take as much sovereignty as you can swallow."
      1. Far B April 29 2020 07: 01 New
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        And don’t talk. There is no memory at all. Forgot how Pechenegs and Polovtsy tormented us, how in Sparta babies were thrown off a cliff? There is no genetic code in people, no at all laughing
      2. Golovan Jack April 29 2020 08: 37 New
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        Quote: CruorVult
        People have a short memory, they forgot Yeltsinovsky: "Take as much sovereignty as you can swallow."

        Throw, do not feed the horse. Then the "opposition" gathered for a gathering ... the kitchen laughing
    2. kalibr April 29 2020 06: 26 New
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      For Russia, this is a typical situation and has always been so. First, from the high stands something good is proclaimed (in general) and everyone is happy. Then it turns out that this “good” is not spelled out in the little things, and these little things just depreciate everything declared from high tribunes. Money is promised - well, but it is not there, and when it will be unknown. It is said about the support and everyone is happy. But on the ground, people are offered to take a vacation at their own expense ... and so on. And then there are still ... who ask, do not ask what the country owes you, think that you owe it. No, in relation to us there is only one answer: first, the country in the person of power to us, and only then ... we ... if possible. Only in this way can something be achieved if you do not have a pair of oil rigs. If there is, then there are other ways.
      1. Okolotochny April 29 2020 20: 07 New
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        Vyacheslav Olegovich, and when the Union was not so? Did the needs of a particular person come first?
        1. kalibr April 29 2020 21: 27 New
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          Quote: Okolotochny
          Vyacheslav Olegovich, and when the Union was not so? Did the needs of a particular person come first?

          Here is me, which is sad. What was exactly the same under the Union. Everything was covered with the left phrase that everything was for the good ... and other blah, blah. But there were clinics for everyone and a special clinic for party bosses and teachers of the history of the CPSU and scientific communism ... And, it would seem, now that everything is measured in money, and the “collective farm has died”, we should remember the commandment - both you and me i am to you. That is - if you want good work and your own success - share, pay to others. But no ... we are all stepping on the same rake.
          1. Okolotochny April 29 2020 22: 20 New
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            Well, here I agree, there is no ideal anywhere. By the way, about the benefits and dangers of modern means of communication, forming a negative public opinion - you mentioned it somehow, a clip from the Navalny group about the “sad state” of medicine in Ust-Labinsk appeared on Instagram. In response, the doctors of the Central District Hospital released their videos, I know one doctor personally (Karaev S.R.), they showed in the videos (facts) that Navalny is openly lying. Moreover, in his lies he was still mistaken, he confused the cities of Labinsk and Ust-Labinsk. But the negative background and comments of the “justly indignant people” outweighed the truth, just like in VO. Vyacheslav Olegovich, write an article for those who comment on how they are being manipulated, but you have works on this subject. Can they see clearly? Although unlikely.
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              Quote: Okolotochny
              Well, here I agree, there is no ideal anywhere. By the way, about the benefits and harms of modern means of communication, forming a negative public opinion - you mentioned it somehow .... Vyacheslav Olegovich, write an article for those who comment on how they are being manipulated, you have works on this subject. Can they see clearly? Although unlikely.

              Do not mind if I join the request - Vyacheslav Olegovich, write. I have a vested interest: regularly have to face ....
              1. kalibr April 30 2020 06: 55 New
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                Good morning! The first article is already in moderation, but I'll write it all right away. But they will have links to books. You can read them online or buy ...
            2. kalibr April 30 2020 06: 53 New
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              Quote: Okolotochny
              write an article for those who comment on how they are being manipulated, but you have works on this subject. Can they see clearly? Although unlikely.

              Dear Alexey! There have already been requests for the same and besides you, and yours is the "last straw." And I already wrote one material, and there will be a cycle, moreover, my experience will go in parallel, and history in parallel. But only, I'm afraid that this will not change anything, NOTHING!
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                Quote: kalibr
                But only, I'm afraid that this will not change anything, NOTHING!

                Good morning, anyway, someone will read and remember, and many still raise children.
    3. EvilLion April 29 2020 08: 22 New
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      Yes, it seems that people cannot do anything without the President’s personal intervention.
    4. carstorm 11 April 29 2020 09: 22 New
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      quarantine sick leave can be issued at all without leaving home on public services. Well, so to understand the complexity. if someone is removed from work, then at least this should have a justification for what is official. on paper. if a person was quarantined then they’ll write. on what basis can a person be forbidden to work otherwise?
      1. Esoteric April 29 2020 09: 59 New
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        Based on the rights of the feudal lord to his serf. The one who has more rights is right. Citizens have no rights, only obligations. And the boyar will decide about the rights.
        1. carstorm 11 April 29 2020 10: 27 New
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          oh well enough .... what kind of infantility? what feudal lords? what serfs?
      2. New Year day April 29 2020 10: 54 New
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        Quote: carstorm 11
        if a person was quarantined then they’ll write.

        not everything is so: I was sent to quarantine by contact, and the sick leave was given for the disease - SARS. Statistics - science is highly variable
      3. Not_invented April 29 2020 11: 31 New
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        In quarantine, you can. But we are not quarantined. We are not quarantined due to lack of symptoms. The wife’s employer was simply ordered not to let her work. How this will be framed is the employer's problem.
  • codetalker April 29 2020 06: 23 New
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    Do you want to thank the government of your region / region first? Hundreds of people get normally sick in similar situations.
    1. pru-pavel April 29 2020 06: 46 New
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      Everything is correct. Hundreds of people get well. Thanks to the native government. Well, something that they gave me figs without oil was given to others, even on TV they showed that they gave. How can one not thank and not be happy for others.
    2. Mordvin 3 April 29 2020 08: 22 New
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      Quote: codetalker
      Hundreds of people get normally sick in similar situations.

      And you would have taken, and shared with those who showed a shish, and not sick leave.
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        go to public services and arrange it without leaving your home. much easier.
  • Dog
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    I could be wrong, but it seems to me that it is easier for a doctor to get infected at work than at the entrance of his house. Therefore, doctors must be quarantined after the first working day from the start of the pandemic. Or do not plant at all, unless, of course, the disease is detected by the test. There is already enough intelligence.
    Today, one of them blurted out that they examined doctors for antibodies - 20% of them already have these antibodies. Which means:
    1) They for a certain period of time were the carrier / distributor of the virus, and no one cared.
    2) In Russia, about 700 thousand doctors. Thus, 140 thousand doctors have been ill with coronavirus recently! And according to official statistics, we have only 90 thousand infections.
    1. Doccor18 April 29 2020 07: 05 New
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      It's just that doctors need to take tests more often, at least once a week. If detected, for 14 days - quarantine. If not identified - to work. Unfortunately, such mass testing has begun recently.
      1. Not_invented April 29 2020 07: 56 New
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        Never took a test. And even now there is no talk of this.
    2. Avior April 29 2020 09: 50 New
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      Today, one of these blurted out

      someone blurted out, and you have global conclusions ready
    3. New Year day April 29 2020 11: 04 New
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      Today, one of them blurted out that they examined doctors for antibodies - 20%

      we conducted such tests - 19,2% of patients at the time of the analysis for antibodies, when receiving an analysis for immunoglobulins, the percentage increased.
      Quote: Dog⁣⁣
      1) They for a certain period of time were

      no, they just got sick already, but during their illness they were contagious, that's for sure. But they fell ill, as a rule, in the performance of their duties. This wording is very inconvenient for the authorities, because these are occupational diseases.
      Quote: Dog⁣⁣
      And according to official statistics, we have only 90 thousand infections.

      Statistics are what they think. They do not do tests in one of the main foci of the city of Lyubertsy (the recent appeal of doctors to the prosecutor’s office and the Investigative Committee, the FSB is confirmation), and there is simply no way for CT to do everything. How, then, is a diagnosis made according to the requirements of the Ministry of Health? - From the ceiling. And this is only 20 km from Red Square. What happens then farther from the Kremlin? request
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        Quote: Silvestr
        Quote: Dog⁣⁣
        Today, one of them blurted out that they examined doctors for antibodies - 20%

        we conducted such tests - 19,2% of patients at the time of the analysis for antibodies, when receiving an analysis for immunoglobulins, the percentage increased.
        Quote: Dog⁣⁣
        1) They for a certain period of time were

        no, they just got sick already, but during their illness they were contagious, that's for sure. But they fell ill, as a rule, in the performance of their duties. This wording is very inconvenient for the authorities, because these are occupational diseases.
        Quote: Dog⁣⁣
        And according to official statistics, we have only 90 thousand infections.

        Statistics are what they think. They do not do tests in one of the main foci of the city of Lyubertsy (the recent appeal of doctors to the prosecutor’s office and the Investigative Committee, the FSB is confirmation), and there is simply no way for CT to do everything. How, then, is a diagnosis made according to the requirements of the Ministry of Health? - From the ceiling. And this is only 20 km from Red Square. What happens then farther from the Kremlin? request

        It all depends on the region and on the "boss" over this region.
        Unfortunately, this is exactly so.
    4. AU Ivanov. April 29 2020 11: 47 New
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      Statistics on the presence of antibodies would be interesting not for doctors.
  • Hagen April 29 2020 06: 50 New
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    I want to thank the government of the Russian Federation for helping doctors during the epidemic

    On the face of the inhibition of regional health structures of the subject. A pediatrician is usually a primary care worker in a children's clinic, or in the children's ward of the hospital in the secondary care. Those. a person works in a vertically integrated structure of the AO, which itself carries out the fight against the virus. Is there reason to suspect a virus? Conduct a series of tests and are determined. It’s sick - they draw up a sick leave, they do not allow it in connection with "self-isolation" - also sick leave (here we have it). Your wife has questions - call the hotline at the Ministry of Health. The Government of the Russian Federation has done everything that is necessary, it remains to force the regions to do their part. You, in this case - a kind of "feedback".
    1. Reklastik April 29 2020 06: 54 New
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      Found time to check decentralization)))
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        Quote: Reklastik
        Found time to check decentralization)))

        This is not a check for decentralization. It is unclear why you got this ... It always happens when you need a quick reaction to a changing situation. Some decisions need to be run in and on the go to eliminate unintended roughness.
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    3. Not_invented April 29 2020 07: 49 New
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      The employer reached the chief medical officer of the region. What is the hotline? The answer is the same: remove the doctor from work, we will not give money.
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        Quote: Not_invented
        What is the hotline? The answer is the same: remove the doctor from work, we will not give money.

        And the direction for the test, the rationale for establishing restrictions on work? And the chief sanitary doctor does not solve the internal issues of the employer + MHIF for the payment of specialists removed from work. So, according to the logic of your sanitary doctor, all SMP teams should be removed from work. And the MH hotline is not managed by a medical doctor. MH will be older than the area doctor.
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          I do not know what is going on in their heads. I can say that it was the doctor who handed me the piece of paper in the photo that said that you can work. So all these uncles and aunts in large offices themselves do not know what is possible, what cannot and how to act. Therefore, the employer spoke with the official who sits above the rest, but within reach. I described the result.
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            I described the result

            In any case, it is necessary to require a written document with clear requirements for admission / non-admission to work. After that, attract legal leverage. The story is not entirely clear, local lawyers will have to rummage around. But I think all is not lost. Even suspension from work without a disease / diagnosis does not mean leaving without pay for involuntary absenteeism. I think this is not the end. need to fight. And pediatricians are needed not only in your clinic / hospital. Good luck to you.
            1. Not_invented April 29 2020 08: 47 New
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              You know, my grandfather (retired Army Colonel, 90 years old), a neighbor in the country impudently took a third of the site. She simply stated that it was hers now. According to the documents, she has a plot of 3 hundred parts, and according to the geodetic examination - 11. It seems to be obvious who is right here, but the courts have been dragging for 9 years. So much money is poured into them that this site can already be bought three times. So your option is good, fair, but not working. Lawyers, unfortunately, have to pay. And their salary is higher than that of pediatricians.
              1. Hagen April 29 2020 08: 55 New
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                Quote: Not_invented
                Lawyers, unfortunately, have to pay.

                All your will. Somehow in the 90s, I also sued the employer not successfully. I had to raise extrajudicial funds. But from case to case the situation is changing. The road begins with the first step. If you wish.
                1. Comrade Michael April 29 2020 09: 27 New
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                  And I have another example ... In the 90s, the employer applied non-judicial means to the employee, he remained paralyzed for life ...
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                    There were many things ....
                    1. Comrade Michael April 29 2020 10: 31 New
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                      There was a case that the employer threatened me, and I asked him to compete, who is faster ... But still, it’s better to live humanly without this empty violence, threats and litigation with complaints and courts ... You must spend your life on the main thing rather than squabbles and showdowns ...
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                        Quote: Comrade Michael
                        There was a case

                        I recalled the 90s to the fact that in any struggle there can be victories, but also defeats. And one must be prepared for this. But if you refuse to resolve conflicts at all, then you can become a “permanent victim”.
                  2. AU Ivanov. April 29 2020 10: 09 New
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                    It happened and vice versa. And applied to employers in the 90s. There were a lot of interesting things in the 90s
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                “You know, my grandfather (retired army lieutenant colonel, 90 years old), a neighbor in the country impudently took a third of the site. She simply stated that it was now her. According to the documents she had a plot of 3 hundred parts, and according to the geodetic examination - 11. It seems to be obviously, who is right here, but the courts have been dragging on for 9 years. "

                7 years surveyed in the Sverdlovsk region, was a cadastral engineer for another year in Rosreestr.
                Duck, this comment of yours smells like nonsense. Garden plots are usually 6 acres.
                The only assumption is that the grandfather agreed on the boundaries when surveying, but then there can be no "3 hundredths according to the documents."
                I do not exclude the possibility that this cannot be, but it is unlikely that it was a matter of registering a plot that was issued by a policeman on someone else’s previously registered.
    4. New Year day April 29 2020 11: 07 New
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      call the hotline in the Ministry of Health

      Have you tried it yourself? To get my results, I called both DZ and Rospotrebnadzor on the drum. Only after a call to the laboratory and hot words after 5 minutes did I get a result that was waiting for an extra 4 days. That's it with the calls
      1. Hagen April 29 2020 11: 12 New
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        Only after a call to the laboratory and hot words after 5 minutes did I get a result that was waiting for an extra 4 days.

        That is, they still called? Then what is it all for? Suggest giving up? laughing
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          Quote: Hagen
          Suggest giving up?

          Is my example about this?
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            Quote: Silvestr
            Is my example about this?

            Your example is about two things:
            1.
            Quote: Silvestr
            do not care

            2.
            Quote: Silvestr
            after 5 minutes I got the result

            Which do you like best?
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              Which do you like best?

              you need to work on the bottoms, on the tops - everything is useless.
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                Quote: Silvestr
                need to work

                Well, here I am about the same.
                1. New Year day April 29 2020 11: 20 New
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                  Quote: Hagen
                  Well, here I am about the same.

                  hi
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                    Quote: Silvestr
                    Quote: Hagen
                    Well, here I am about the same.

                    hi

                    Mutually...
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  • Klingon April 29 2020 07: 05 New
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    from the government in the Russian Federation as usual scam. there is nothing to be surprised that the doctors then leave.
    in Germany, however, health workers are paid at the same time € 1500 for hard work during quarantine
    1. AU Ivanov. April 29 2020 10: 11 New
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      For Germany, 1500 oyro, a very modest amount. This is for us she "ah"
      For, the Germans is "eh"
      1. Klingon April 29 2020 10: 47 New
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        this amount is just a bonus to a regular salary. And believe me, for the Germans this is also a lot of money. so who can I not know, I have been working in the healthcare system for 15 years in Germany!
  • rocket757 April 29 2020 07: 16 New
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    This generation of officials, glavnyuchkov, (everywhere) we have grown ..
    They all owe them, they are just nobody.
    From above, they take something there, but below they don’t even want to hear it !!!
    In short, a mess across their entire vertical.
    However, we also participated in the cultivation, voluntarily or not freely. Now, when everything is complicated, we get different things from them.
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      PPKS !!!!!!!
      1. rocket757 April 29 2020 16: 16 New
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        Not the truth, in the last resort, just a long observation ... still own sad experience.
        And something else became clear, this wall alone, the system can not be destroyed.
  • Primus April 29 2020 07: 28 New
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    What did you expect? All “help” and “fighting the pandemic” is only on paper. The main thing is not to violate reporting. All this fuss with the virus in our conditions gives cretinism to the executive branch. He looked out the window - the townspeople wanted to poop on the decrees of the president and governor, in which I agree with them.
    1. EvilLion April 29 2020 08: 20 New
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      You go to kebabs and rallies more, and then complain that Putin treated you badly.
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      Quote: Primus
      He looked out the window - the townspeople wanted to poop on the decrees of the president and governor, in which I agree with them

      So join them! And good cow virus to you ... nobody has yet canceled natural selection yes
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        And I don’t sit on the pope. It’s quite an active vacation. I don’t go to rallies, what’s interesting there? But kebabs, of course. I didn’t wear a mask or gloves in crowded places, and I’m not going to follow the recommendations of those in power — to harm myself.
  • Vladimir Glinsky April 29 2020 07: 54 New
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    All would be nothing. But I don’t understand where the signature is, who the author is ... And it turns out here and there and some people still sometimes.
    1. Not_invented April 29 2020 07: 57 New
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      I am the author. Have questions - ask.
      1. Vladimir Glinsky April 29 2020 08: 04 New
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        I just wanted to take the text to my resource, but there is no indication of the region and at least an alias.
        1. Not_invented April 29 2020 08: 14 New
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          I indicated the nickname when submitting the article. I don’t know why it didn’t appear. The region is not specifically indicated. However, the pieces of paper in the photo by region are different, most likely: each has its own form. So, with due desire ... :)
          1. Not_invented April 29 2020 08: 35 New
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            So the region has already been named below. I could not resist.
      2. Vladimir Glinsky April 29 2020 08: 05 New
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        Naturally, we take the text indicating authorship and an active link to the source.
      3. Mordvin 3 April 29 2020 08: 33 New
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        Any questions - ask.

        Can you name the region?
        1. Not_invented April 29 2020 08: 34 New
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          Sverdlovsk region.
          1. Mordvin 3 April 29 2020 08: 47 New
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            Sverdlovsk region.

            Yeah, Kuyvashev the governor. A very versatile person, including a locksmith, and a dental technician and concrete mixer, and a manager, and an installer, and a lawyer, and a teacher, and a bailiff, and is ready to conduct tours of the Yeltsin Center. In short, the flyer is the enemy of production. crying
            1. frog April 29 2020 14: 41 New
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              No way. A very effective manager. It can be said, multi-station, again, with great potential for growth ..... well, from the people, so to speak, flesh from flesh. repeat
  • veritas April 29 2020 08: 09 New
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    according to Rospotrebnadzor, the wife does not have the right to work, but she is not supposed to be sick

    Rospotrebnadzor and my wife gave the exact same answer. Our son returned from Moscow and his wife turned to Rospotrebnadzor to clarify the situation. The answer was the same.
  • Double major April 29 2020 08: 10 New
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    Something tells me that this is not a matter of the government, but of local disorder. And since our country is controlled manually, the solution is to appeal to the President through his website. This is the quickest solution.
    1. Not_invented April 29 2020 08: 27 New
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      You see, if local officials had concrete and clear instructions on what to do, they would have followed them.
      Imagine for a second that the appeal will be considered. Who will be punished? It seems to me that the employer. And I understand the employer. They doubled hospital incomes, there is nothing to pay salaries.
      1. New Year day April 29 2020 11: 12 New
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        Quote: Not_invented
        appeal will be considered

        will not be considered, but will be lowered downward. therefore
        Quote: Not_invented
        Who will be punished?

        - nobody, for no one punishes himself.
        1. Not_invented April 29 2020 12: 02 New
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          I agree with you that they will not be considered, therefore I wrote "Imagine for a second".
    2. Mordvin 3 April 29 2020 08: 34 New
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      This is the fastest solution.

      Yeah, but he sits the devil knows where, and answers everyone?
    3. Catfish April 29 2020 08: 35 New
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      Something tells me that this is not a matter of the government, but of local carelessness

      And who appointed the local authorities, not the government?
      ... appeal to the President through his website. This is the quickest solution.

      Yah? And did this President keep a lot of his promises?
      You at least do not make people laugh. laughing
      1. Dym71 April 29 2020 09: 32 New
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        Quote: Sea Cat
        You at least do not make people laugh.

        Do you suggest just neighing or on the "assault on the Winter"?
        1. Catfish April 29 2020 10: 13 New
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          Neither one nor the other, just look at things realistically and draw conclusions. And as for neighing - this is to Petrosyan or to Zhirinovsky. "Storm of the Winter" country has already passed more than once, and what do we have as a result? hi
          1. Dym71 April 29 2020 12: 23 New
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            just look at things realistically and draw conclusions

            For what? What is the purpose of these "difficult" exercises?
      2. frog April 29 2020 14: 42 New
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        You at least do not make people laugh.

        What else can they do?
        1. Okolotochny April 29 2020 20: 11 New
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          Work, not clever in front of each other in the comments. Have you tried to work?
          1. frog April 29 2020 23: 08 New
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            Oddly enough, yes. Moreover, a couple of works. And I would like, Schaub authorities paid the same as me - for work. The product according to your drawings and calculations does not work - the award flew into the window. As for the power and work - it depends on what to assume under work .... Judging by the state of affairs - someone does not work there. Perhaps not all, of course. But ... And the abolition of one of the two sheep delivers, and crystal epaulets and a wish to the most honest law enforcement .....
            Defense Ministry proposes to deprive army generals of astrakhan hats
            If the amendments are adopted, the astrakhan hats will remain only with the FSO and with the generals of the Russian Guard, and they will be deprived of the highest officers of the army and navy

            The Russian Guard has decided to purchase more than one hundred pairs of general epaulettes made of crystal. A tender announcement was posted on the government procurement website by the Central Commandant’s Office for Logistics of the Federal Service of the National Guard of the Russian Federation.
            Back in 2017, EMNIP
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      exit - appeal to the President through his website. This is the fastest solution.

      optimist you! Already handled this way?
      1. Dym71 April 29 2020 12: 19 New
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        Already handled this way?

        A friend had a deal, a land plot (according to the application in accordance with Decree of the Government of the Russian Federation N 861) stood for more than a year without connecting to electric power networks, after contacting the website of the President of the Russian Federation they electrified for a month.
        1. New Year day April 29 2020 12: 24 New
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          Lucky. In my 2 cases they lowered down and all to no avail
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            Quote: Silvestr
            Lucky. In my 2 cases they lowered down and all to no avail

            How everything just develops for you, and yet:
            A rolling stone gathers no moss

            that is why:
            Whoever is lucky will have a cock
  • Horst78 April 29 2020 09: 06 New
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    Something I did not understand the author. What did he want to say?
    1. Not_invented April 29 2020 09: 17 New
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      I wanted to say that if you flew from the Maldives, then you were put in quarantine and sick leave for two weeks, and if you are treating children and there is a virus in your entrance, then you are entitled to leave at your own expense.
      1. Horst78 April 29 2020 09: 54 New
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        Quote: Not_invented
        I wanted to say that if you flew from the Maldives, then you are quarantined and sick for two weeks, and if you treat children, and there is a virus in your entrance, then you put vacation at your own expense.

        Apparently tyranny of "small-town" because locals will have to pay sick leave, but they apparently want to save. So I do not see the "evil plan" of the authorities. Contact the prosecutor.
  • slava84 April 29 2020 09: 24 New
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    And also pleases "financial support for medical workers." The wife is a district nurse, she takes swabs from “suspects in the Coronation”. They gave a premium for the period of the epidemic, but for that reason they also gave a "decrease". As a result, the salary became 2000 less (in February 20, and in March 18), worries that in April it will become even less
    1. evgenii67 April 29 2020 10: 07 New
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      . As a result, the salary became 2000 less (in February 20, and in March 18), worries that in April it will become even less

      This reminded me of a similar story from doctors who at the end asked the GDP to no longer “raise” their sn.
    2. Flinkfan April 29 2020 15: 25 New
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      Class work: took a smear from an uninfected "suspect in the Coronation".
      After her departure, he went to the porch to smoke (at home, family, children were forbidden to smoke on the balconies), took on the handle of the front door and .....
      Again, you can invite the district nurse, who walks, takes smears ... from the "suspects in the Coronation."

      “Movement is everything, the ultimate goal is nothing” ...
  • Klingon April 29 2020 10: 51 New
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    This generation of officials, glavnyuchkov, (everywhere) we have grown ..
    They all owe them, they are just nobody.
    From above, they take something there, but below they don’t even want to hear it !!!
    In short, a mess across their entire vertical.
    However, we also participated in the cultivation, voluntarily or not freely. Now, when everything is complicated, we get different things from them.

    So the main thing is that they, officials and the Oligators should have a good life.
    and it would be necessary if they were infected with a virus, to deny access to ventilators. And so, you give a piece of paper with the necessary requirements for signature, only after that access to the intensive care unit. It seems to me only at the cost of their own lives it will be possible to knock something out for ordinary people
    1. Golovan Jack April 29 2020 11: 32 New
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      I have been working in the healthcare system in Germany for 15 years!

      If this is true, I don’t understand why you are so worried about the question.

      Quote: Klingon
      ... so that they, officials and the Oligators live well ... knock out something for the common people

      It’s better to tell how it is there in Germany - have you already taken the cow virus, or what?
      1. Klingon April 29 2020 15: 12 New
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        TK cares parents and relatives all live in Russia. We have now achieved some stability, those. no exponential growth of infections. hospitals are not crowded. RCT promises to release a vaccine by fall
  • Flinkfan April 29 2020 15: 17 New
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    Guess three times: how long the All-Russian pandemic show will take with treatment elements for asymptomatic patients, from unknown (American, Chinese, European, Asian, Arabian, pangolin-camel-volatile, etc.) virus forms that do not exist on non-existent methods if its participants receive severe bonus bonuses not for a specific result of treatment, but for its process? It is strange why veterinarians are still picking their noses, and have not bought ventilation machines for themselves? One can only think of asymptomatic pet owners sneezing on cats, dogs and other fish in aquariums, and asymptomatic little animals do not cough on people.
    I assure you, as soon as the treasuries are not paid to the doctors, but from the personal pockets of officials and deputies of all stripes, the country will instantly defeat the damned coronavirus.
  • APASUS 1 May 2020 12: 07 New
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    I would like to turn off the pros and cons for such a topic (just for someone it’s critical), weaken the moderation, so that the people speak out realistically (obscene and other pranks, of course, must be stopped as before)
    I would tell you what a mess is going on in medicine in our area, but I will get a ban instantly!
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    I also sit on vacation .. then two-thirds of the salary ... 12 thousand.