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HSE Rector: In Russia, the rich will remain rich, the poor - poor

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The network is discussing a statement made by the rector of the HSE (Higher School of Economics) Yaroslav Kuzminov.


In an interview with RBC, Kuzminov spoke about what the Russians expect against the backdrop of the onset of the economic crisis, which is associated with a pandemic.

According to the rector of the HSE, there is a threat of the impoverishment of the middle class in Russia. At the same time, the question immediately arises of who should still be attributed to the middle class in our country. Not so long ago, an “interesting” definition appeared, according to which any person with an income of 1,5 minimum wages can be attributed to the middle class.

President of Russia in an interview with news agency TASS urged not to compare the middle class in Russia and the West. According to the president, a middle class person in Russia is one who has an income of 17 thousand rubles (the same 1,5 minimum wage). And we have about 70% of such. Such statements then caused widespread public discussion.

Returning to the words of Yaroslav Kuzminov, he said that income in Russia will fall at all walks of life.

Kuzminova quoted website RBC:

If the impoverished rich will still remain rich, and the poor will still be poor, then for the middle class, which is now taking the brunt of the burden, there are serious risks of falling into poverty.

Earlier, the HSE presented the unemployment forecast for 2020. This forecast indicates a possible record unemployment rate in the Russian Federation over the past few years - about 8 percent. And this is still the “most optimistic option.” In a pessimistic version, the unemployment rate will reach 9,5%, and by 2024 its indicators, as HSE experts predict, will not be able to reach the 2019 level.
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  1. Victor_B
    Victor_B April 28 2020 08: 12 New
    +3
    The network is discussing a statement made by the rector of the HSE (Higher School of Economics) Yaroslav Kuzminov.

    Something lice fussed!
    Breeding ground lice liberals!
    Nest of parasites.
    1. marchcat
      marchcat April 28 2020 08: 16 New
      39
      In Russia, the rich will remain rich, the poor - poor
      And in a country where there is no economy, there will remain a higher school of economics ... negative
      1. The comment was deleted.
        1. Mitroha
          Mitroha April 28 2020 08: 26 New
          18
          Is your name Vova? Did you miss swimming during the winter?
          On the subject:
          I’m not the rector of the Higher School of Economics, but I’ll say it in spirit. WORLDWIDE, the rich will remain rich, and the poor poor. Sugar is sweet. Sky is blue.
          1. Mordvin 3
            Mordvin 3 April 28 2020 08: 35 New
            13
            Quote: Mitroha
            Sugar is sweet. Sky is blue.

            And the water is wet. laughing
            1. Mitroha
              Mitroha April 28 2020 08: 36 New
              +3
              Definitely laughing
            2. 72jora72
              72jora72 April 28 2020 09: 06 New
              +3
              And the water is wet.
              But you are observant, however.
            3. Vita vko
              Vita vko April 28 2020 10: 38 New
              +2
              Quote: Mordvin 3
              And the water is wet.

              But what about the world revolution and social justice?
              1. Nyrobsky
                Nyrobsky April 28 2020 11: 10 New
                +5
                Quote: Vita VKO
                Quote: Mordvin 3
                And the water is wet.

                But what about the world revolution and social justice?

                Missed in 1991.
                Since then, we have been tirelessly "improving" social status, justice and equality.
          2. demo
            demo April 28 2020 08: 53 New
            +4
            And the sun will be the sun!

            The class of the rich and the class of the poor will not disappear.
            But personalities can change!
            Yesterday, owners of shale oil wells were considered wealthy.
            And today they have gone bankrupt.
            Those. poor (relatively).
            And not the fact that some of them may be steel and beggars.

            But the fact that the smug face broadcasts common truths is annoying.
          3. Malyuta
            Malyuta April 28 2020 09: 02 New
            17
            Quote: Mitroha
            but I’ll say it in spirit. WORLDWIDE, the rich will remain rich, and the poor poor.

            And you do not want to remind yourself of who the current billionaires of Rotenberg, Timcenui, Potanin, Mordashev, Michelson, Abramovich, nitupins, and Deripaska were. Too rich and famous?
            It reads in your comment, endure the inhabitants and eat the bark of the oak, all the same, nothing can be done.
            1. 72jora72
              72jora72 April 28 2020 09: 07 New
              +1
              endure the inhabitants and eat oak bark
              Oak bark with diarrhea is good to drink .....
              1. Golovan Jack
                Golovan Jack April 28 2020 11: 47 New
                -5
                Quote: 72jora72
                Oak bark with diarrhea is good to drink ...

                ... including verbal. Recommend to the opponent laughing
                1. Malyuta
                  Malyuta April 28 2020 11: 56 New
                  10
                  Quote: Golovan Jack
                  Quote: 72jora72
                  Oak bark with diarrhea is good to drink ...

                  ... including verbal. Recommend to the opponent laughing

                  I am very sorry, but you shone so strongly with all the facets of your talent that your humor cannot be ignored, Petrosyan simply died. hi
              2. The comment was deleted.
            2. Mitroha
              Mitroha April 28 2020 09: 35 New
              +1
              Quote: Malyuta
              Your comment reads

              In my comment, what is written is read. And for your imagination I am not responsible. This is more for doctors wink
            3. New Year day
              New Year day April 28 2020 09: 49 New
              +9
              Quote: Malyuta
              And you don’t want to remind yourself who the current billionaires of Rotenberg, Timcenui, Potanin, Mordashev, Michelson, Abramovich, nitupins, and Deripaska were.

              The formula for success at the bottom is simple ...
            4. AU Ivanov.
              AU Ivanov. April 28 2020 10: 35 New
              -14
              Deripaska, unlike the Rotenbergs, which made the GDP, self made man - a man who has risen on his own. Like Potanin, who rose without any help from Putin.
              1. Malyuta
                Malyuta April 28 2020 11: 30 New
                16
                Quote: AS Ivanov.
                Deripaska, unlike aboutt Rotenbergs, which made GDP, self made man

                yeah, such a whole technical innovator and economic genius.
                Deripaska-son-in-law of the daughter of Ebna and comments here are superfluous.
            5. orionvitt
              orionvitt April 28 2020 13: 14 New
              +1
              Quote: Malyuta
              endure the inhabitants and eat oak bark

              This is my friend’s capitalism. What they fought for.
          4. Victor_B
            Victor_B April 28 2020 09: 05 New
            +2
            Quote: Mitroha
            I am not the rector of the HSE

            Well, if I call you a liberalist, I will receive a complaint.
            For personal insults are unacceptable.
            Apparently you sympathize with them.
            A hotbed of lice liberalism!
            Nest of parasites.

            Do you disagree with this statement?
            Justify!
            1. Mitroha
              Mitroha April 28 2020 09: 41 New
              +2
              I will answer. Assuming that I can become a liberalist, which is unrealistic in principle, in this case I voluntarily self-destruct laughing
              With the leadership in the world of capitalism and globalization it will be just like that
              the rich will remain rich and the poor poor

              But changing it is still possible
              1. Victor_B
                Victor_B April 28 2020 09: 43 New
                -4
                Quote: Mitroha
                I will answer.

                And the question is whether the HSE:
                A hotbed of lice liberalism!
                Nest of parasites.
                weak answer?
                1. Mitroha
                  Mitroha April 28 2020 09: 46 New
                  +1
                  I was not in this office, therefore, I don’t want to build a slander. But judging by the state of the economy, it doesn’t even attract school, if only for alternatively gifted
                  1. Victor_B
                    Victor_B April 28 2020 09: 50 New
                    +2
                    Young people are frowning there ...
                    There, after all, the elite children learn.
                    Those that remain rich.
            2. tihonmarine
              tihonmarine April 28 2020 10: 36 New
              +1
              Quote: Victor_B
              Well, if I call you a liberalist, I will receive a complaint.
              For personal insults are unacceptable.
              Apparently you sympathize with them.

              These lads from the Higher School of Economics are beginning to crawl out like bugs from the cracks. Something hurts lately their rector appears in the media, here is a quote from "Politics Today"
              The global economic recession will have a strong impact on the middle class around the world, rector of the Higher School of Economics Yaroslav Kuzminov is sure. Entrepreneurship today is actively developing an "experience economy" that is suffering losses from COVID-19.
          5. Basil50
            Basil50 April 28 2020 09: 25 New
            +3
            mitrohe
            Such a barbarously neglect of all sorts of different tiligents to both their own country and fellow citizens is * the heavy legacy of tsarism *. Then there were no citizens, but there were subjects placed in * rank tables *, so the officials ran for the career at any cost, and for the title noblemen could even * sell their soul *.
            THE RUSSIAN EMPIRE with its * table of ranks * is no longer there, and the desire to curry favor and show that * is not like everyone else *, and * I have the right *, unlike plebeians, is manifested.
            Particularly emphasizing one's own * peculiarity * is inherent in democratic regimes and where they disguise themselves as democracy. I had the opportunity to see these things in Germany and in France.
          6. cost
            cost April 28 2020 18: 26 New
            +1
            Sweet sugar

            An experienced person is immediately visible yes
            And how do you like this option - to make sugar sweet, add sugar to it wink
        2. knn54
          knn54 April 28 2020 08: 31 New
          13
          October Revolution — He who was nobody will become everything.
          Today, what you were, so you stayed ...
        3. Alex Nevs
          Alex Nevs April 28 2020 08: 57 New
          -7
          Do you want to repeat the outskirts? the nurse. A head not? Or not?
          1. Malyuta
            Malyuta April 28 2020 09: 18 New
            +9
            Quote: Alex Nevs
            Do you want to repeat the outskirts? the nurse. A head not? Or not?

            And if it’s impossible in Armenia, you will continue to repeat the pro-Kremlev bogeyman about the outskirts, because you are satisfied with 124th place in the world in terms of healthcare costs.
          2. Roman123567
            Roman123567 April 28 2020 10: 33 New
            -1
            As if we are not repeating it now ..
            Remove excess profits from oil / gas - and at the exit we get the same margin ..
            1. Malyuta
              Malyuta April 28 2020 11: 47 New
              +6
              Quote: Roman123567
              Remove excess profits from oil / gas - and at the exit we get the same margin ..

              it’s better to take away the TV from extra-hromosomal fasteners, otherwise they will always be in the 5-point of the strongest with it.
      2. Was mammoth
        Was mammoth April 28 2020 08: 26 New
        +9
        Quote: marchcat
        And in a country where there is no economy, there will remain a higher school of economics ...

        And, at the HSE there is an institute of health economics.
        "Optimizers"!
      3. tihonmarine
        tihonmarine April 28 2020 08: 53 New
        +7
        Quote: marchcat
        And in a country where there is no economy, there will remain a higher school of economics.

        Yes, here an interesting situation comes out, in a country where there is no economy, there is a higher school of economics studying economics. Nonsense.
        1. New Year day
          New Year day April 28 2020 09: 33 New
          +7
          maybe we don’t think correctly?
          Quote: tihonmarine
          there is a higher school of economics
          because and
          Quote: tihonmarine
          in the country ... no economy
          laughing
          1. tihonmarine
            tihonmarine April 28 2020 10: 13 New
            +3
            Quote: Silvestr
            maybe we don’t think correctly?

            There is an economy, but rather a foreign economy, and the school is also foreign (or alien).
      4. snake
        snake April 28 2020 10: 43 New
        +4
        In Russia, the rich will remain rich, the poor - poor

    2. vik669
      vik669 April 28 2020 08: 22 New
      11
      It is better to keep quiet and seem like a fool than to open your mouth and finally dispel doubts. Well, what useful things can be taught by those without whom everyone knows that twice two will be four and not seven or eight like that!
      1. Terenin
        Terenin April 28 2020 08: 49 New
        +7
        Quote: vik669
        It is better to keep quiet and seem like a fool than to open your mouth and finally dispel doubts. Well, what useful things can be taught by those without whom everyone knows that twice two will be four and not seven or eight like that!

        Indeed, they assigned themselves the high names "higher, academician" and this "academician" broadcasts in the morning about the coronavirus, then caught himself and cackled about the economy ... fool
        All these representatives of the HSE, according to their "conclusions", are closer to the speeches of Messing and Vangovanie. Closer and closer to ... Kashchenko
      2. DymOk_v_dYmke
        DymOk_v_dYmke April 28 2020 09: 57 New
        0
        Quote: vik669
        Well, what useful things can be taught by those without whom everyone knows that twice two will be four and not seven or eight like that!

        Particularly gifted people think that two times two is zero hi .
    3. kjhg
      kjhg April 28 2020 08: 23 New
      +7
      Something lice fussed!
      A hotbed of lice liberalism!
      Nest of parasites.
      If you didn’t notice, then a good half of the population of Russia started to bustle, who really does not understand what he should live on. And those whom you call a nest of parasites and lice, gently protects, finances, and cherishes your nullified storyteller. It is from their circle that he chooses for himself economists, financiers, and other officials. This is understandable, a fisherman, a fisherman ... and a raven a crow ... well, you understand me.
      1. Pessimist22
        Pessimist22 April 28 2020 08: 53 New
        +9
        Putin's daughter asks her father: "What is patriotism?" Putin replies: "Patriotism is when ordinary people work for a penny and die in the war, so that we would live richly abroad, buy real estate and yachts there, and our children studied there and lived richly!" - Are they not angry? Putin: "They are angry, but this is called extremism and we put them in jail."
      2. Alex Nevs
        Alex Nevs April 28 2020 08: 59 New
        -12
        The situation is better than the 90s, what are you talking about? They wanted EBNa. He could dance anything. I'm about "fussing".
        1. kjhg
          kjhg April 28 2020 09: 12 New
          +5
          Quote: Alex Nevs
          The situation is better than the 90s

          I note that you compared it with the 90s. Only a month passed, when oil returned to the prices of the 90s, even slightly higher than them, but you are already comparing the situation with the 90s, and not even with the situation 10 or 15 years ago. This is very significant. I wonder what you will compare it with if such prices last 5 years? With the revolution? With the hunger of the 20s of the last century? And in this comparison, will you convince us that everything is not so bad?
          Quote: Alex Nevs
          what do you mean? EBN wanted.

          So the Yeltsin’s affair didn’t go anywhere. It was continued, developed and fully realized by his successor, who was reset to zero.
          Quote: Alex Nevs
          He could dance everything.

          Yeltsin danced everything and the fairy-tale danced everything he could.
          1. Alex Nevs
            Alex Nevs April 28 2020 09: 20 New
            -5
            Rolling ball in shops? Is the army in decline? Foreign agents in special centers monitor the Russian economy (so that it doesn't grow)? Are there hints of Russia's resource management in the wrong hands? Or you don’t see the difference in "money". There are fewer robbers, but those that remained "grew on their heads." There are still many problems, it is (it was and will be). But the time of EBN, well, and the "hunchback" by no means be compared. And at such a price (as you indicated), everyone would have been "thrown" on the "savings books of the USSR". So ... But the problems are already on another "stage of development". Yes .. and now a completely different socialist system. They won't get paid anymore, only earn for themselves and that guy. FSE!
            1. kjhg
              kjhg April 28 2020 09: 42 New
              +4
              Quote: Alex Nevs
              In stores, a rolling ball?

              It was a shortage of goods in the late 80s, and in the second half of the 90s everything was already in stores, but there was no money to buy it.
              Quote: Alex Nevs
              The army is in decline?

              So far, thank God, no, but in five years we’ll see such oil prices.
              Quote: Alex Nevs
              Do foreign agents in special centers monitor the Russian economy (whatever grows)?

              I don’t know who is sitting there, but the economy in .ope has not been growing for so many years, incomes of the population have been falling year by year, with the welfare of the oligarchs growing.
              Quote: Alex Nevs
              Hints on managing Russia's resources in the wrong hands?

              Well, if you consider Sechin, Miller, Aliperov and other Deripasok as yours, then I can only congratulate you. You, apparently, from this category of celestials.
              Quote: Alex Nevs
              There are fewer robbers, but those that remained "grew on their heads."

              Those bandits that were now sit in deputies and write laws for godfathers. Of course, to smaller ones they give less to steal. Do you remember? as in that movie: this is our cow and we milk it.
              Quote: Alex Nevs
              And at such a price (as you indicated), everyone would have been "thrown" on the "savings bank of the USSR". So ... But the problems are already on another "stage of development".

              If the current oil prices remain, then I assure you, we will quickly, swiftly break through even the bottom. Actually, it is not yet visible, but it is already audible and people already feel its approach with their spinal cord. Nothing depends on the storyteller. He was engaged in imitation of violent activity, so it will be. Everything will depend on oil prices.
              1. Alex Nevs
                Alex Nevs April 28 2020 17: 54 New
                -4
                Tired of objecting, and not hunting to answer the untruth. You probably have your own truth. EBNYou want. EBNa. According to the first point, the 80th deficit, the 90th roll away, and money in bags. This is the 2000s you started to remember, well, then I'm too lazy to remember this, you have your own time to calculate. According to the second, the army did not remember under EBN ? The same thing.
            2. DymOk_v_dYmke
              DymOk_v_dYmke April 28 2020 10: 13 New
              +1
              Quote: Alex Nevs
              But the problems are already on another "stage of development". Yes .. and now a completely different socialist system.

              The collapsing spiral bears little resemblance to development, and the position on the loop is similar to the position before the collapse of the USSR. And the motives of the clans of "beneficiaries" are similar.
              So you have to keep your ears open.
            3. Roman123567
              Roman123567 April 28 2020 10: 38 New
              +2
              In shops and under ebony it was full of everything .. You can’t smear an army of bread ..
              And who is following our economy .. there is a big question .. Apparently, it is precisely the foreign agents that are .. The resources of Russia are also unclear in whose hands .. In any case, the people are neither cold nor hot from this ..
              At the expense of the robbers I agree - they have grown a head .. now it is not bags in the markets that are raking, but billions from the people .. here Putin's "merit" is undoubted ..
              1. Alex Nevs
                Alex Nevs April 28 2020 19: 24 New
                +1
                Brezhnev as hayali. And on the 90s "ran into".
            4. Mordvin 3
              Mordvin 3 April 28 2020 19: 13 New
              +2
              Quote: Alex Nevs
              In stores, a rolling ball?

              In her pocket, a louse on a lasso hanged herself.
          2. New Year day
            New Year day April 28 2020 09: 46 New
            +4
            Quote: kjhg
            I wonder what you will compare it with if such prices last 5 years? With the revolution? With the hunger of the 20s of the last century?

            "leader" has already staked out comparisons: Pechenegs and Polovtsians, Nicholas II
        2. New Year day
          New Year day April 28 2020 09: 47 New
          +2
          Quote: Alex Nevs
          EBN wanted.

          What's the problem?
        3. Roman123567
          Roman123567 April 28 2020 10: 35 New
          +1
          But you have to wait until it gets worse ??)
          In order to finally recognize then that 20 years have gone by the tail ??
          Miraculous peasant children ..
    4. Mordvin 3
      Mordvin 3 April 28 2020 08: 25 New
      16
      Quote: Victor_B
      Something lice fussed!
      A hotbed of lice liberalism!
      Nest of parasites.

      Are you aware that the current Prime Minister Mishustin is the scientific director of the Institute of Economics at the Higher School of Economics?
      1. Victor_B
        Victor_B April 28 2020 09: 09 New
        +2
        Quote: Mordvin 3
        Are you aware that the current Prime Minister Mishustin is the scientific director of the Institute of Economics at the Higher School of Economics?

        If so, now in the know.
        And now that I have no right to consider the HSE a hotbed of liberalism?
        These are the fosterlings of Yasin and the apologists of Gaidar.
        1. Mordvin 3
          Mordvin 3 April 28 2020 09: 10 New
          +4
          Quote: Victor_B
          And now that I have no right to consider the HSE a hotbed of liberalism?

          You have, have.
          1. Victor_B
            Victor_B April 28 2020 09: 12 New
            -2
            Quote: mordvin xnumx
            Quote: Victor_B
            And now that I have no right to consider the HSE a hotbed of liberalism?

            You have, have.

            Thank you master ... wink
            That is, a comrade (or lord?), An army general. laughing
            1. Mordvin 3
              Mordvin 3 April 28 2020 09: 18 New
              +5
              Quote: Victor_B
              Thank you master ...

              Yeah, they found the master ... laughing Wow, see you, I have to go to work. hi
    5. 210ox
      210ox April 28 2020 11: 21 New
      +3
      Can the office plankton finally thrown out onto the street start looking for its place in life? Just really would not want to be in the field of banditry ..
  2. The leader of the Redskins
    The leader of the Redskins April 28 2020 08: 17 New
    13
    rich will remain rich, poor - poor
    Predictor from God!
    And I still know who will remain the president!
    1. Deniska999
      Deniska999 April 28 2020 08: 23 New
      +4
      And the remnants of the middle class will safely move to the lower strata. Although what is the middle class ... after all, we have a person with a minimum wage already the middle class.
      1. kepmor
        kepmor April 28 2020 09: 07 New
        +3
        yes, our fabulously zeroed one does not cost anything at all and retirees to the middle class ... for him such pearls as "two fingers on the asphalt" ...
    2. New Year day
      New Year day April 28 2020 09: 50 New
      +2
      Quote: Leader of the Redskins
      And I still know who will remain the president!

      laughing laughing laughing
    3. cost
      cost April 28 2020 18: 42 New
      +1
      rich will remain rich, poor - poor

      in other words, the rich will remain ..... winked
  3. Far B
    Far B April 28 2020 08: 17 New
    +5
    rich will remain rich, poor - poor
    Also me, Newton’s binomial. It will be so. But only until the poor finally get poverty. Then the options are possible.
    1. Professor
      Professor April 28 2020 08: 30 New
      +4
      Quote: Far In
      rich will remain rich, poor - poor
      Also me, Newton’s binomial. It will be so. But only until the poor finally get poverty. Then the options are possible.

      No options. The poor will remain poor. The rich will remain rich. But the middle class risks joining the ranks of the poor. This is about this article. And there will be no revolution. and revolution does not make the poor rich.
      1. Terenin
        Terenin April 28 2020 08: 53 New
        +6
        Quote: Professor
        This is about this article.

        I agree, the article is about nothing
        Quote: Professor
        and revolution does not make the poor rich.
        it’s also true that HSE representatives have nothing to do with the real economy No.
      2. DEDPIHTO
        DEDPIHTO April 28 2020 09: 00 New
        +5
        revolution does not make the poor rich.
        It is not necessary that the revolution of the poor make rich otherwise the rake is obtained. It’s enough that there will be no poor people, and that’s selfish minoritywho craves wealth breaks out on heartburn .... or in the zone, for the especially dull and greyhounds.
      3. Mountain shooter
        Mountain shooter April 28 2020 09: 08 New
        -2
        Quote: Professor
        And there will be no revolution. and revolution does not make the poor rich.

        The revolution makes ALL beggars ... but it makes some close to power ... Is this the equivalent? Maybe ... but only for the poor ... Former poor.
      4. DymOk_v_dYmke
        DymOk_v_dYmke April 28 2020 10: 22 New
        0
        Quote: Professor
        and revolution does not make the poor rich.

        It doesn’t, but the degree of delamination still reduces.
        Even the pre-revolutionary situation reduces.
    2. Roman123567
      Roman123567 April 28 2020 10: 44 New
      -3
      Because the lower the price of oil, the sooner something can change.
      Otherwise, we will splash around the ice hole ..
  4. antivirus
    antivirus April 28 2020 08: 17 New
    0
    the middle class, which is now taking the brunt of itself, has serious risks of rolling

    - a lot of champagne will not be drunk. nobody works and does not risk.
    money is not in stores
  5. Pvi1206
    Pvi1206 April 28 2020 08: 19 New
    +2
    HSE Rector: In Russia, the rich will remain rich, the poor - poor

    But the water will remain wet ... and the sun will shine on everyone ... so let's not lose heart ...
  6. kepmor
    kepmor April 28 2020 08: 21 New
    +8
    yeah ... for millions the awakening after "imprisonment" is guaranteed to be soberingly scary ...
    but every cloud has a silver lining ... maybe finally we will get out of the state of "lazy suspended animation" ...
    the expression on the face-face of this "beacon" from the economy of theft is an exact copy of the attitude of the current government to its population ... complete disregard ...
    1. Malyuta
      Malyuta April 28 2020 08: 50 New
      +7
      Quote: kepmor
      maybe we will finally get out of the state of "lousy suspended animation" ...

      Shapiro tells the inhabitants that in spite of everything, all the karashos and krepyshes believe from the last forces in the naked king.
  7. nov_tech.vrn
    nov_tech.vrn April 28 2020 08: 22 New
    +7
    He also forgot to add that my wife and I, with the help of the central bank, will make every effort to this.
    1. Mordvin 3
      Mordvin 3 April 28 2020 08: 47 New
      +4
      Quote: nov_tech.vrn
      with the help of the central bank we will make every effort to this.

      Yeah. You cannot get your hard-earned money in Sberbank. Maximum - 15 thousand. They say that there is no money. They tried to take off that week, it did not work out.
      1. Alex Nevs
        Alex Nevs April 28 2020 09: 00 New
        +2
        Cheese in a mouse trap laughing . Sberbanks of the USSR forgot?
      2. AU Ivanov.
        AU Ivanov. April 28 2020 09: 04 New
        -2
        What nonsense. Any ATM will give you the right amount. And it’s easier to pay by bank transfer.
        1. Mordvin 3
          Mordvin 3 April 28 2020 09: 07 New
          +3
          Quote: AS Ivanov.
          Any ATM will give you the right amount.

          They removed it from the savings book and buried their father. More precisely, they tried to remove it. Almost 60 thousand went to the funeral, and only 15 could take off. How do you like such realities?
          1. AU Ivanov.
            AU Ivanov. April 28 2020 09: 12 New
            +1
            And you did not have a bank card tied to your account? I won’t believe in life. Now the banks are pushing cards, whether you want or not. Yes, and opening a card on an existing account is a matter of five minutes. For a long time, grandmothers of old women paid in fives by bank transfer.
            1. Mordvin 3
              Mordvin 3 April 28 2020 19: 04 New
              +1
              Quote: AS Ivanov.
              And you did not have a bank card tied to your account?

              Did not have. He didn’t know how to use his father’s book, he waved them off with all his hands and feet, and took them off by proxy.
              1. AU Ivanov.
                AU Ivanov. April 28 2020 19: 10 New
                +3
                If there was a power of attorney in a bank account, you could order a card without the participation of the father. Plus, link an account to an online banking application. They would have avoided a lot of problems.
                1. Mordvin 3
                  Mordvin 3 April 28 2020 19: 47 New
                  0
                  Quote: AS Ivanov.
                  They would have avoided a lot of problems.

                  Aha, in hindsight, all become smart. Only the trouble is, our family understands banking intricacies like a pig in oranges. If the government bought the savings, then it turns out straight from the LADY: No money, stay here, good mood. ”Tired of holding on.
                  1. AU Ivanov.
                    AU Ivanov. April 28 2020 19: 56 New
                    +2
                    The Internet is there to help, there is nothing complicated either in online banking or in owning a bank card. There are no subtleties there, everything is extremely simple. The wife here ordered furniture from Ikea from the savings card, through the site, 70 ty, the payment went without any difficulty. Mom paid with a card in the store (I don’t let her go to the store now) and for her, for a minute, the 89th year old went.
                    1. Mordvin 3
                      Mordvin 3 April 28 2020 20: 11 New
                      0
                      Quote: AS Ivanov.
                      The Internet is there to help, there is nothing complicated either in online banking or in owning a bank card.

                      Yes, no matter how you study, the government will still find a way to take money from the population.
                      1. AU Ivanov.
                        AU Ivanov. April 28 2020 20: 14 New
                        +2
                        I use a bank card of the year from 97-98, there were no ATMs yet, I received money at the cash desk of a bank branch. Not a penny was lost. And, often, when paying with a card, cashback is supposed to be a trifle, but nice.
                      2. Mordvin 3
                        Mordvin 3 April 28 2020 20: 17 New
                        0
                        Quote: AS Ivanov.
                        I use a bank card of the year from 97-98, there were no ATMs yet, I received money at the cash desk of a bank branch. Not a penny was lost.

                        But there was a default.
                      3. AU Ivanov.
                        AU Ivanov. April 28 2020 20: 19 New
                        +2
                        But there was a foreign currency account. Then it was easier. On the contrary - it increased. Yes, and now the savings in the dual currency.
                      4. Mordvin 3
                        Mordvin 3 April 28 2020 20: 22 New
                        0
                        Quote: AS Ivanov.
                        But there was a foreign currency account.

                        Then where does it:
                        Quote: AS Ivanov.
                        Not a penny was lost.

                        A penny? They surely disappeared.
  • _Sergei_
    _Sergei_ April 28 2020 11: 10 New
    +2
    Today I took 30 thousand for a car repair to a friend.
  • Dmitry from Voronezh
    Dmitry from Voronezh April 28 2020 08: 23 New
    +5
    However, a meaningful interview, you will not say anything ... The rich will remain rich, and the poor will become poorer. One could expect a more interesting forecast or some constructive proposals from the HSE Rector. And so the question arises: what are they doing there at the HSE? If the economy, then why do we need such "specialists"?
    1. Varyag71
      Varyag71 April 28 2020 11: 46 New
      0
      Hello to Voronezh!
  • Grits
    Grits April 28 2020 08: 23 New
    11
    Wow! Yes, I, it turns out, is a representative of the middle class! And my mother-in-law is a pensioner, too.
    We must drink for it. True, it’s not enough for cognac, but I’ll get along with moonshine.
    1. Mordvin 3
      Mordvin 3 April 28 2020 08: 51 New
      +5
      Quote: Gritsa
      And my mother-in-law is a pensioner, too.

      Does the mother-in-law know about this? Please her, however.
  • Mavrikiy
    Mavrikiy April 28 2020 08: 28 New
    +3
    Rector of the Higher School of Economics (YSE) Yaroslav Kuzminov.
    Lice, she and lice in Africa. angry
  • NDR-791
    NDR-791 April 28 2020 08: 30 New
    +4
    Heh ... We are in a normal prison. The old prisoners are convinced that any initiative of the administration leads to a strengthening of the regime. It's time to see for yourself wassat
  • Gennady Fomkin
    Gennady Fomkin April 28 2020 08: 35 New
    0
    It is necessary to disperse them for a long time, because the benefits of such a "school" to our economy are 0. laughing
    1. Siti58
      Siti58 April 28 2020 09: 32 New
      +1
      If 0. In a country with world resources, people live in poverty, and millions in poverty. This can arrange either fools or enemies. HSE, who are you?
      1. nov_tech.vrn
        nov_tech.vrn April 28 2020 10: 37 New
        -1
        do not consider them fools ...
        1. Gennady Fomkin
          Gennady Fomkin April 28 2020 10: 42 New
          0
          Please tell me what these "smart" ones did laughing
          1. nov_tech.vrn
            nov_tech.vrn April 28 2020 10: 50 New
            +1
            They crap when slowly, and when harder, both cradles of economic science Mau and Kuzmin would lead them on the same rope, that's just not our method ...
        2. AU Ivanov.
          AU Ivanov. April 28 2020 10: 53 New
          +2
          And who of these HSE theorists, analysts and experts, was able to open his own business and earn millions? Or can they only scratch their tongues? And the country's economy should be governed not by theorists, but by practitioners. Who know firsthand how money is made.
        3. Siti58
          Siti58 April 28 2020 12: 38 New
          0
          I don’t think so. I ask.
  • Doccor18
    Doccor18 April 28 2020 08: 35 New
    +7
    "HSE Rector: In Russia the rich will remain rich, the poor poor."
    You don’t need to be
    HSE Rector
    everybody knows this.
  • Comrade Michael
    Comrade Michael April 28 2020 08: 42 New
    +5
    With this power, it will be so and there is no need to be a rector for this ...
  • Gennady Fomkin
    Gennady Fomkin April 28 2020 08: 46 New
    -3
    If your dog’s hairdresser’s was closed, it doesn’t mean that the economy has become cancerous. You got cancer, yes laughing
  • New Year day
    New Year day April 28 2020 08: 49 New
    +3
    He said everything right. "Poverty is a pit into which you can slide endlessly"
  • Brylevsky
    Brylevsky April 28 2020 08: 50 New
    +2
    HSE Rector: In Russia, the rich will remain rich, the poor - poor

    Cap, thanks!
    I will add: here, in Russia, the rich, from year to year, will become richer, and the poor - poorer.
    1. Bomb
      Bomb April 28 2020 10: 32 New
      -1
      And the fabulous will tell more fabulously about how the Pechenegs took away all their wealth =)
  • podymych
    podymych April 28 2020 08: 51 New
    +2
    And what else could you expect from the hubby of our main banker?
  • Million
    Million April 28 2020 09: 01 New
    +3
    Over time, I begin to understand why the "Red Terror" happened
    1. New Year day
      New Year day April 28 2020 09: 55 New
      +6
      Quote: Million
      Over time, I begin to understand why the "Red Terror" happened

      that is why Stalin’s rating is growing!
      1. Alex Nevs
        Alex Nevs April 28 2020 19: 25 New
        0
        How did it turn out?
        1. New Year day
          New Year day April 28 2020 21: 13 New
          +2
          Quote: Alex Nevs
          How did it turn out?

          but it so happened that the reserves of the USSR still lived. But now, with such a price for oil and gas, let's see
  • aviapit123
    aviapit123 April 28 2020 09: 03 New
    +5
    The poor are separated by someone in the shroud and slowly crawl, and who will take up the club. So is the middle class. 90 years taught, remember. Only with great cynicism.
  • Maks1995
    Maks1995 April 28 2020 09: 05 New
    -1
    Some of them got aroused, but after all, the VES in the Kremlin was excellent.
    Something awarded recently. They want to transform someone according to their model.

    So alas, everything is correct. The "middle class" will get poorer, the number of rich people in Forex is likely to increase ....
    1. AU Ivanov.
      AU Ivanov. April 28 2020 09: 43 New
      +1
      Where you saw rich people in Forex is an ordinary scam.
      1. Alex Nevs
        Alex Nevs April 28 2020 19: 26 New
        0
        And not just forex. laughing Many things.
    2. Prisoner
      Prisoner April 28 2020 10: 49 New
      +2
      You seem to have been aroused in your desire to pinch the Kremlin and have confused Forex with Forbes. hi
      1. Maks1995
        Maks1995 April 28 2020 11: 56 New
        +2
        You're right. Wrong. My apologies .
        Please consider what was written by Forbes. I will even plunge it as a token of gratitude)))
  • rocket757
    rocket757 April 28 2020 09: 08 New
    0
    Quote: Mitroha
    I will say both in spirit. WORLDWIDE, the rich will remain rich, and the poor poor. Sugar is sweet. Sky is blue.

    Obvious, not even probable, but it just will be so! As always!
  • Bomb
    Bomb April 28 2020 09: 09 New
    +4
    In Russia there is no middle class, and for those who consider the middle class a population with an average income of 17000 rubles. not everything is in order with the head. Shame and shame.
  • Ross xnumx
    Ross xnumx April 28 2020 09: 10 New
    +5
    If the impoverished rich will still remain rich, and the poor will still be poor, then for the middle class, which is now taking the brunt of the burden, there are serious risks of falling into poverty.

    In vernacular, it sounds like this:
    “While the fat dries, the thin one dies!”
  • 9PA
    9PA April 28 2020 09: 12 New
    +3
    Cap evidence?
  • 1536
    1536 April 28 2020 09: 14 New
    +1
    What is this, a painting in its own impotence or is it "the task is completed"?
  • Vlad7461
    Vlad7461 April 28 2020 09: 17 New
    +1
    Who else would doubt ...
  • Jarserge
    Jarserge April 28 2020 09: 25 New
    +2
    And HSE, as it was a hotbed of Western footmen, will remain so sorry ... it's time to disperse this feeding trough
  • Gennady Fomkin
    Gennady Fomkin April 28 2020 09: 26 New
    0
    Everyone is trying to give birth to something, but freaks are obtained, as if a miscarriage did not turn out at all. You don’t have to wait for another if the parents have an education (and .... you).
  • Fedorovich
    Fedorovich April 28 2020 09: 38 New
    +1
    Ahrinennaya analytics! The audience applauds! No, seriously - what else can these mandavos say if they did everything they can to do this?
  • rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 April 28 2020 09: 43 New
    +1
    Malyuta
    you are comfortable with 124th place in the world in health spending.
    And you let more drool on foreign "ratings". Maybe you will open your eyes a little, swam with "Western democracy" and see where the mortality rate from the coronavirus is in the USA, Europe, and where is Russia? So who is in what place in health care? These are the "experts" that the HSE prepares.
    1. Bomb
      Bomb April 28 2020 09: 53 New
      +1
      Blinded everything into a heap. Mortality, health care costs. Mortality depends, among other things, on the scale of infection. God forbid you to lie down in a city hospital in Russia with some kind of poisoning, your eyes will come out on your forehead from what you saw there. I experienced it on my own skin. I do not think that in 90% of institutions in the country the situation is somehow different in a cardinal way. Medicine, health care on such a day that there is nowhere else. Surgeon, deputy. chapters. doctor, the head of the surgical department and told me so ..... "we are now treating numbers." Moscow, the Vishnevsky Institute - a mess even worse than outside the Moscow Ring Road.
      1. Victorio
        Victorio April 28 2020 10: 36 New
        -1
        Quote: Bomb
        Blinded everything into a heap. Mortality, health care costs. Mortality depends, among other things, on the scale of infection. God forbid you to lie down in a city hospital in Russia with some kind of poisoning, your eyes will come out on your forehead from what you saw there. I experienced it on my own skin. I do not think that in 90% of institutions in the country the situation is somehow different in a cardinal way. Medicine, health care on such a day that there is nowhere else. Surgeon, deputy. chapters. doctor, the head of the surgical department and told me so ..... "we are now treating numbers." Moscow, the Vishnevsky Institute - a mess even worse than outside the Moscow Ring Road.

        ===
        With medicine, problems are almost everywhere, not only in Russia. and with ambulance trouble, medical appointments are going on for months.
        1. Bomb
          Bomb April 28 2020 10: 50 New
          -2
          There is no point in comparing the level of health care in Russia and the USA-Europe as a comrade tries to prove that he is higher here by the example of mortality from coronavirus, if an ordinary pensioner from Ust-Uzhopinsk does not get further than the regional one. Elementary do not give direction in the local clinic.
          1. Victorio
            Victorio April 28 2020 10: 55 New
            0
            Quote: Bomb
            There is no point in comparing the level of healthcare in Russia and the USA-Europe as a comrade tries to prove that he is higher here by the example of mortality from a coronovirus, if an ordinary pensioner from Ust-Uzhopinsk does not get further than the regional one. Elementary do not give direction in the local clinic.

            ===
            You can compare, I wrote to you that the record goes over the months, this is about Latvia. mother in the Kuban is similarly recorded for a week, a maximum of two. Yes, there are nuances, differences, etc., but in fact, the problems are not only in Russia.
            1. notingem
              notingem April 28 2020 13: 07 New
              -1
              Yeah. And ischo in America blacks lynch. And in Russia there
      2. Alex Nevs
        Alex Nevs April 28 2020 19: 28 New
        0
        Exactly. It's time to talk about penguins in the Arctic. There is ice and cold too.
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    3. Victorio
      Victorio April 28 2020 12: 03 New
      0
      Quote: rotmistr60
      Malyuta
      you are comfortable with 124th place in the world in health spending.
      And you let more drool on foreign "ratings". Maybe you will open your eyes a little, swam with "Western democracy" and see where the mortality rate from the US coronavirus is in Europe, where is Russia? So who is in what place in health care? These are the "experts" that the HSE prepares.

      ====
      in terms of the number of special medical institutions under construction / commissioned, exactly ahead of the rest. I suppose that if the people in Russia were more disciplined, the numbers of those infected would be many times less.
  • Guru
    Guru April 28 2020 09: 44 New
    0
    According to the president, a middle class man in Russia is one who has an income of 17 thousand rubles (the same 1,5 minimum wage). And we have about 70% of such. Such statements then caused widespread public discussion.

    then for the middle class, which is now taking the main blow on itself, there are serious risks of falling into poverty.

    Well, here comes the moment of truth. It is clear that "While the fat one is losing weight, the thin one dies of hunger," how Immoral in this statement, not only the President, but also his curators.
  • Zaurbek
    Zaurbek April 28 2020 09: 53 New
    +1
    I can also make such forecasts .... if 80% of the budget revenue is the export of raw materials and commodities .... and the price has collapsed on them, then the final sector of services in the country will collapse. Owners of monopolies will become richer ..... the rest will get poorer.
  • tatra
    tatra April 28 2020 10: 25 New
    +1
    Well, this is the essence of real capitalism - a huge gap in income between a handful of the rich and the majority of the poor. And what is the essence of the "American Dream"? And the fact is that only a very few, due to their intelligence, talent, enormous capacity for work, can break out of the poor into the rich. And those who, on the territory of the USSR, squealed and squealed that the gap in the incomes of the people under the USSR by 3-4 times is bad, this is "equalization", and after the capture of the USSR by them, a huge gap in income between themselves and the people was created.
    1. Alex Nevs
      Alex Nevs April 28 2020 19: 30 New
      0
      Yes, because socialism is communism for a society of people and not parasites. And egalitarianism = utopia.
  • iouris
    iouris April 28 2020 10: 27 New
    0
    That was good news. Soon he will sound bad.
  • BAI
    BAI April 28 2020 10: 29 New
    +1
    In Russia, the rich will remain rich, the poor - poor

    There is no need to be Nostradamus. This trend has been going on since 1991.
  • for
    for April 28 2020 10: 32 New
    +2
    In Russia, the rich will remain rich, the poor - poor

    Probably more precisely the rich are richer, the poor are poorer and there will be more of them. More will become the poor middle class.
  • Prisoner
    Prisoner April 28 2020 10: 43 New
    0
    Goofy! The middle class turned out to be rich and now it’s getting poorer. But I didn’t know. what
    1. Alex Nevs
      Alex Nevs April 28 2020 19: 31 New
      0
      And the local "experts" will ram in your head like this, you will forget the name. laughing Here EVERYTHING with HSE.
  • Gennady Fomkin
    Gennady Fomkin April 28 2020 10: 44 New
    -2
    Quote: Siti58
    If 0. In a country with world resources, people live in poverty, and millions in poverty. This can arrange either fools or enemies. HSE, who are you?

    Sound in the numbers? laughing
  • Gertm
    Gertm April 28 2020 10: 59 New
    -2
    Serious forecast, it seems like a discovery? Etozh need something to figure something out?
  • Gennady Fomkin
    Gennady Fomkin April 28 2020 11: 19 New
    0
    Quote: AU Ivanov.
    And who of these HSE theorists, analysts and experts, was able to open his own business and earn millions? Or can they only scratch their tongues? And the country's economy should be governed not by theorists, but by practitioners. Who know firsthand how money is made.

    It looks like scratching it with "tongue" is their main "achievement" laughing
  • Gennady Fomkin
    Gennady Fomkin April 28 2020 11: 20 New
    -1
    Quote: Victorio
    Quote: Bomb
    Blinded everything into a heap. Mortality, health care costs. Mortality depends, among other things, on the scale of infection. God forbid you to lie down in a city hospital in Russia with some kind of poisoning, your eyes will come out on your forehead from what you saw there. I experienced it on my own skin. I do not think that in 90% of institutions in the country the situation is somehow different in a cardinal way. Medicine, health care on such a day that there is nowhere else. Surgeon, deputy. chapters. doctor, the head of the surgical department and told me so ..... "we are now treating numbers." Moscow, the Vishnevsky Institute - a mess even worse than outside the Moscow Ring Road.

    ===
    With medicine, problems are almost everywhere, not only in Russia. and with ambulance trouble, medical appointments are going on for months.

    Where is it? laughing
  • Gennady Fomkin
    Gennady Fomkin April 28 2020 11: 25 New
    0
    This whole sharaga recalls the preparation of the indigenous administration of the East India Company, which, when receiving from the state, acts against the state. belay
  • faterdom
    faterdom April 28 2020 12: 16 New
    +2
    Thinker! Inveterate human! And the wife is a sight for sore eyes!
  • Ros 56
    Ros 56 April 28 2020 12: 26 New
    +1
    I didn’t think that the rector of the Higher School of Economics is so stupid, you might think that in the states or in any other country, the rich and the poor will switch places. These are our rectors, and we live, he would have a broom in his hands and on the street, just an occupation for his mind.
  • iouris
    iouris April 28 2020 12: 31 New
    0
    Is the HSE rector higher than the president of the Russian Federation? Gee!
  • 4ekist
    4ekist April 28 2020 13: 42 New
    +1
    If the impoverished rich will still remain rich, and the poor will still be poor, then for the middle class, which is now taking the brunt of the burden, there are serious risks of falling into poverty.

    HSE has made a "forecast-analysis". This liberalistic office should be closed for a long time as unnecessary.
    1. Alex Nevs
      Alex Nevs April 28 2020 19: 32 New
      0
      It was. Passed by. Already passed. Use it.
  • NF68
    NF68 April 28 2020 16: 45 New
    +1
    In other countries of the world it will be the same. And if one of the rich people in these countries has lost a lot of money today, then tomorrow or the day after tomorrow these people will take all measures to not only return the previously lost, but also to grab something else.
  • awdrgy
    awdrgy April 28 2020 19: 06 New
    +1
    And no one doubted it