Platforms for petitions. Weapon of Information Warfare


The scandal erupting on the Internet around the abuse between Vasily Utkin and Vladimir Solovyov continues to gain momentum. In fact, quite unexpectedly, Utkin’s very standard training in throwing his own excrement into the information space took on almost all-Russian proportions. Of course, the eternal opposition, disdaining cultural and political hygiene, instantly supported Utkin. The same immediately called Solovyov to the “battle”. (By a new-fangled word we mean mutual swearing of two youngsters who are obviously cowardly to solve the problem in a manly way, without tantrums and prying eyes.) After this, Vasily declared his “victory”, and his associates, apparently, in order to protect their “triumph” fecal wars, in the best traditions of freedom of speech, which are strangled and about which they broadcast from each iron, they made a petition demanding to remove Solovyov from the air.


Platforms for petitions. Weapon of Information Warfare

Vasily Utkin

No, I have absolutely no concern for Vladimir Rudolfovich. He is an experienced person, with excellent connections and legal defense, as they say, God forbid everyone. In addition, he is, to put it mildly, not deprived of finances. But appearing in this scandal of the petition platform is more than curious, which clearly shows that in the information wars they began to use a relatively new tool more often.

Change.org is a robust PR company


All petition platforms that have gained popularity in Russia have foreign roots. For example, the Change.org platform featured in the scandal with Utkin was created by Ben Rattrey from California. Ben was born in a completely poor family, so he had the opportunity to get an education at Stanford and the London School of Economics. As a child, the boy dreamed of becoming an investment banker, and, intending to get his “legitimate” golden parachute at age 35, he was about to go into politics.

But, seeing how fast the Internet is developing and what opportunities the network opens up, in 2007, Ben created the Change platform. Bessrebrenik, who insisted that he wanted to "change the balance between people and large organizations", over the five years of the functioning of his platform, became one of the hundred most influential people (according to Time magazine). I don’t know about the “balance with large organizations”, but Ben corrected his envy, including the financial one.

Now the American Jennifer Dulsky is at the helm of the platform. This active person does not lag behind the owner, and therefore, before she was covered by a wave of altruism (if you are not far enough to believe this), she was and remains a large figure of modern business giants. So, the young lady is a member of the board of directors of WW International, Move, Inc. etc. And in her career luggage, working for monsters like Yahoo! and google.

The “non-profit” organization Change itself is currently a real corporation. It is no secret that large offices such as Amnesty International and the Humane Society directly pay a lot of money to the platform so that their petitions are not just posted on the site, but also go to the top, pop up first in the lists. That is, already at this stage the “change of balance” is limping on both legs, because a carte blanche is open for interested persons not constrained in finances, and a petition of some altruist will be in the backyard.


In this case, only direct email address, first name and surname are required from direct signatories. And therefore, of course, we are not talking about any personalization of the signature under the petition initially. Therefore, a pair of smart guys with certain skills can create a petition in a day and bring the number of signatures to hundreds of thousands. And if the customer is still not offended by the money, then the petition will have an international resonance. A special piquancy of the situation around this platform is given by the fact that the head office of the company is located in San Francisco, i.e. in the "cradle of democracy", which, without blinking an eye, crushes social networks under itself and is carried out by carpet bombing of foreign countries.

Of course, this network activity does not have any legal force, but in fact it is in no way controlled by law. Therefore, any snotty kindergartener can create a petition in the style of "Down with a quiet hour - we hate him." But not everything is so simple ...

Legal norms - nothing, seething masses - everything


Skillfully using the Change.org platform, by the way, according to its own rules, one can easily discredit, under the dressing of "popular opinion" as individuals, as well as entire legislative initiatives and the states themselves. And domestic pro-Western fighters of a near-political clearing quickly realized this. The platform is just a daily celebration of the fighter with the "bloody regime." They called on the Council of Europe to assess whether Russia can change the constitution or not, here they demanded to urgently cancel the army draft, and also demanded the release of all the defendants in the case of the New Greatness, etc. You can meet completely absurd demands - such as the repeal of Article 212 of the Criminal Code of the Russian Federation ("Mass riots"), which is present in the laws of any civilized country.

Of course, quite adequate and even necessary petitions are posted on the platform, the creators of which seek to solve specific problems. However, within this system they function solely as fertilizer for odious political statements that are financially nourished. And the system is so “soundly” woven that the creators themselves admit that they are simply trying to “attract attention”, and apparently they are not going to fight the problem of “cheating” votes. At the same time, the modern world is easily ready to present such a variety of services that the entire system of petition platforms becomes a system of mass manipulation.


The author did not need even two minutes to find a number of sites ready to "help in the promotion of petitions." Of course, for a moderate fee. So, according to one of the sites, 1000 votes will cost only five thousand rubles. Thus, to later come out in the shining armor of the leader of the popular majority, pre-adjusted by one or another office, the author will need no more than one hundred thousand rubles, and depending on the size of the order, they will also make a discount.

In general, the scheme is banal and flat, like a fence. We place a petition, build the bridges we need with a company that is ready to provide their services for its promotion, the number of “Russian citizens” who supported the petition is growing by leaps and bounds, and finally the media is coming out. Pre-grown opposition media, who are ready to see in a couple of hundred pathologically bruised by three hundred varieties of sausage and Bavarian beer "the face of the people", and which absolutely ignore the opinion of the other 140 million, promote this topic. Oil painting ...
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  2. ssergey1978 April 28 2020 05: 26 New
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    The master was offended, the dare to grumble
    1. Stas157 April 28 2020 05: 57 New
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      . In general, the scheme is banal and flat, like a fence. We place a petition, build the bridges we need with a company that is ready to provide their services for its promotion, the number of “Russian citizens” who supported the petition is growing by leaps and bounds, and finally the media is coming out.

      The author believes that Solovyov did not suffer deservedly, but the people really love Solovyov ??

      And I see the exact opposite!

      Petition - honestbut this article whitewashing the most disgusting pro-government propagandist - not really.
      1. military_cat April 28 2020 06: 06 New
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        Platforms for petitions. Weapon of Information Warfare
        Likes on YouTube. The weapon of information genocide.
        1. Insurgent April 28 2020 07: 22 New
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          Quote: military_cat
          Likes on YouTube. The weapon of information genocide.

          And this process has long been not spontaneous but quite definitely controlled yes

          As an example, this picture, but the number of interested parties and beneficiaries is much wider and is not limited to the activities of exclusively hostile special services ...
          1. New Year day April 28 2020 10: 06 New
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            Quote: Insurgent
            the number of interested parties and beneficiaries is much wider and is not limited to the activities of exclusively hostile secret services ...

            better and more efficiently these services are our authorities. don't you find?
            1. Insurgent April 28 2020 10: 14 New
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              Quote: Silvestr
              better and more efficiently these services are our authorities. don't you find?

              It is possible, but with the difference that the services do this with knowledge of the matter and anticipation of the expected result, and the authorities act in an unconsciously instinctive manner without clear guidelines for the future ...
              1. New Year day April 28 2020 10: 23 New
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                Quote: Insurgent
                with the difference that the services do this with knowledge of the matter and anticipation of the expected result, and the authorities act in an unconsciously instinctive manner without clear guidelines for the future ...

                the result is the same! And no matter how it is achieved.
                1. Insurgent April 28 2020 10: 27 New
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                  Quote: Silvestr
                  the result is the same! And no matter how it is achieved

                  no no no Thrice not!
                  Refer to the history of Russia, and see for yourself that the damage that occurs from internal strife in the camp is many times greater than the damage from external interference (exposure).
                  1. New Year day April 28 2020 10: 33 New
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                    Quote: Insurgent
                    personally, that the damage that occurs from internal strife in the camp is many times greater than the damage from external interference (exposure).

                    so who is guilty then? Your statement about foreign intelligence services then disappears itself request
                    1. Insurgent April 28 2020 10: 38 New
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                      Quote: Silvestr
                      so who is guilty then? Your statement about foreign intelligence services then disappears itself

                      belay on what basis did you suggest that the services, seeing the clumsy actions of the authorities, suddenly stopped their activities?

                      There is such an uk.sword: " Burt i dad is easier than beat" yes ("Together it’s easier to beat father too")
                      1. New Year day April 28 2020 11: 19 New
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                        Quote: Insurgent
                        on what basis did you suggest that the services, seeing the clumsy actions of the authorities, suddenly stopped their activities?

                        contradict yourself request
                        Quote: Insurgent
                        the damage that arises from internal strife in the mill is many times greater than the damage from external interference
                        - no doubt!
                        и
                        Quote: Insurgent
                        services do this with knowledge of the matter and anticipation of the expected result, and the authorities act in an unconsciously instinctive manner without clear guidelines for the future ...


                        what is the difference if the result is predicted?
                      2. Insurgent April 28 2020 11: 24 New
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                        Quote: Silvestr
                        what is the difference if the result is predicted?

                        Do you want to find out something, or have you switched to verbiage about anything, but around and around?

                        Or you do not understand / do not assume that the actions of the authorities can somehow be corrected under the influence of some factors (there are a lot of them and not about them now), then the influence from the outside will never cease by itself ...
                      3. New Year day April 28 2020 12: 38 New
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                        Quote: Insurgent
                        Quote: Silvestr
                        what is the difference if the result is predicted?

                        Do you want to find out something, or have you switched to verbiage about anything, but around and around?

                        Or you do not understand / do not assume that the actions of the authorities can somehow be corrected under the influence of some factors (there are a lot of them and not about them now), then the influence from the outside will never cease by itself ...

                        I don’t understand why, during the machinations of the West, the authorities are doing everything to implement these plans?
                        Do not find it strange? And now, “consciously or not,” no one is interested. The important thing is that power helps this process.
                        Does it make it easier for you- Yakovlev, Shevardnadze, hunchbacked, EBN?
                        How can you separate the components in the final result of their actions? Who has tried harder to achieve our result and how important is it now?
                      4. Lexus April 28 2020 14: 52 New
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                        Sylvester, welcome!
                        I don’t understand why, during the machinations of the West, the authorities are doing everything to implement these plans?

                        Elementary! They now have the "Homeland" there and the most valuable. Secondly, the authorities are vitally important, against the background of "breakthroughs", against someone constantly "Hold the thief!" shout. Therefore, in everything, according to the "Russian eaters", the "gas department" and the ungrateful people are to blame. If the first, their true owner and customer of “music”, allowed to “blame themselves” in order to distance themselves from crooks and thieves, then the second, guided for slaughter, doesn’t need to be asked at all ..
            2. Roman123567 April 28 2020 11: 06 New
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              the damage that arises from internal strife in the mill is many times greater than the damage from external interference


              Damage from Putin at times exceeds the damage from foreign intelligence services ??
              I agree ..
              1. Insurgent April 28 2020 11: 19 New
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                Quote: Roman123567
                Damage from Putin at times exceeds the damage from foreign intelligence services ??
                I agree ..

                Your opinion will not remain unappreciated by those who in addition to the stupidity of power, it works to destabilize Russia.

                Reports of the employees of the 83rd center of the IPSO SSO APU on work in Russian social networks to post anti-Russian content.
                Presented are materials that were promoted by the 83rd IPSO Center for Special Operations Forces of the Armed Forces, the dates of their placement, the coverage of the material, responsible employees and the names of the “operations” in which this base propaganda was disseminated, which even after the closed reports of the 83rd IPSO Center causes a negative reaction at the audience.





                1. Roman123567 April 28 2020 11: 36 New
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                  Your opinion will not be left out. those in addition to the stupidity of power working to destabilize Russia.

                  This is not my opinion, but your words ..

                  PS .. although it’s still curious - what will they evaluate at least ??)
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  3. Malyuta April 28 2020 08: 15 New
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    Likes on YouTube. The weapon of information genocide.

    Long live “CHEBURNET” and Rospozornadzor, death to “cart”, “vatsapu”, “vibera” and “yupubu”.
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  • Andrey Mikhaylov April 28 2020 07: 45 New
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    If you don’t like Soloviev or his program. That’s why you speak on behalf of the people. And it’s your comments that are propaganda, Express your opinion but don’t have to decide for everyone and everything, not who did not ask you. Personally, I watch programs with Solovyov and I like them.
    1. Stas157 April 28 2020 07: 58 New
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      Quote: Andrey Mikhaylov
      why do you speak on behalf of the people. And it is your comments and there is propaganda, Express your opinion but no need to decide for everyone and that's it, no one asked you.

      Re-read my comment again and say:
      Where there I spoke from behalf of the people?
      And where did I decide something for everyone?

      If you can’t answer these questions, I will be happy to apologize for your awkward reservation.
      1. Andrey Mikhaylov April 28 2020 08: 08 New
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        I said everything to you in a comment. Cons in your comment, that’s a confirmation. And don’t look at Solovyov, otherwise you will soon suffer moral damage, start demanding from everyone who disagrees with you. Have a nice day.
      2. Sidor Amenpodestovich April 28 2020 09: 47 New
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        And where did you see Soloviev’s whitening? Is it really just that the author, the redist, dared to speak about him in a neutral tone, but he had to - no, he must! - mercilessly brand you a favor?
        You offer the right to exist only to those phenomena that suit you, and everything else is heresy, and should be destroyed? Yes, you are an extremist, my dear!
    2. Malyuta April 28 2020 08: 23 New
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      Quote: Andrey Mikhaylov
      Personally, I watch programs with Solovyov and I like them.

      Look, who's stopping you, here he sent you personal greetings from Italy, where he is imbued with special patriotism and pride for you. hi
      1. Lexus April 28 2020 15: 21 New
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        Look, who's stopping you, here he sent you personal greetings from Italy, where he is imbued with special patriotism and pride for you.

        You don’t understand anything. Cannon is there, and not only, according to special assignment, it goes - to spoil the air. laughing
    3. New Year day April 28 2020 10: 10 New
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      Quote: Andrey Mikhaylov
      If you do not like Soloviev or his program. That is why you speak on behalf of the people

      maybe because nonsense to listen is no longer strength?

      Quote: Andrey Mikhaylov
      Personally, I watch programs with Solovyov and I like them.

      I also "like" them, especially about patriotism
      1. wolf20032 April 28 2020 10: 22 New
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        It is necessary to earn more, and not to envy those who know how to do it.
        1. New Year day April 28 2020 10: 36 New
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          Quote: wolf20032
          It is necessary to earn more, and not to envy those who know how to do it.


          envy it?
          1. Ronald Reagan April 28 2020 10: 41 New
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            Isn't that envy? They earned buns with their labor, and not for the seat on the couch.
            1. New Year day April 28 2020 11: 13 New
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              no buns earned their labor,

              labor paid by the government. After all, money does not smell, right. Especially when zeal is plentifully financed. When working with Covid-19, you don’t have to pay such a sum to a doctor, nurse or nurse, but you need a hollow breach. Ask why students are sent to work in such hospitals, why the medical staff of the same Kommunarka fled. They do not work, they fool around. But these upyri- work. "There is no money, but you hold on" - this is for doctors. This is the social significance in the country.
              1. Ronald Reagan April 28 2020 12: 06 New
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                Do not blame a person for being talented, hardworking and interesting. To each according to his ability. hi
                1. New Year day April 28 2020 12: 20 New
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                  Quote: Ronald Reagan
                  Do not blame a person for being talented, hardworking and interesting. To each according to his ability

                  Then there is nothing to blame on the state of medicine - they themselves deserve
                  1. Igor Aviator April 28 2020 23: 34 New
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                    What about medicine? Something is wrong? At US, in Russia - everything is (almost) normal - the lowest (in the world!) Mortality rate. Conducted sanitary and epidemiological measures give a result - they reached the "plateau" in terms of the growth of infected people - 6000 people per day. The situation is gradually improving. The President today set the task of developing measures to exit the regime of self-isolation. You, in Canada, do not understand!
                2. Leshy1975 April 28 2020 12: 27 New
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                  Do not blame a person for being talented, hardworking and interesting. To each according to his ability. hi

                  An interesting point, the manifestation of "talent":

                  PS What a "talent", the gateway to such "talent" is directly crying, and the gopniks nervously smoke aside.
                  1. Ronald Reagan April 28 2020 12: 48 New
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                    Why are you watching it then? Leave the cactus alone. laughing
                  2. Leshy1975 April 28 2020 12: 58 New
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                    Quote: Ronald Reagan
                    Why are you watching it then? Leave the cactus alone. laughing

                    And where did you get the idea that I'm watching it? Already two or three years, as I do not watch the Fed. channels. I’m not so sophisticated that I would cultivate an abomination and anger.
                    And specifically this passage, I took on the open spaces of the network. What would you, once again give pleasure to his "talent" and hard work. You see, how the like suffers for you, directly not in yourself.
                    Admire, relish - talent. hi
                    Especially in the matter of re-shoes:
                  3. Ronald Reagan April 28 2020 13: 56 New
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                    Do not watch the channels, but admire the "talents" on YouTube. laughing
                    A person simply wraps his skills in money. Shoe changing does not matter, since it will be with money.
                  4. Leshy1975 April 28 2020 14: 37 New
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                    Quote: Ronald Reagan
                    Do not watch the channels, but admire the "talents" on YouTube. laughing
                    A person simply wraps his skills in money. Shoe changing does not matter, since it will be with money.

                    I don’t look, but I’m aware of what is happening, the network is discussing what happened.
                    I never doubt that Soloviev’s ability to stick to money and be able to sell more expensive. But this is precisely shoe change and journalistic (political, moral) prostitution.
                    And that is why he is in the top of the propagandists, and not because:
                    talented, hardworking and interesting

                    The entire list of top journalists-propagandists (Kiselev, Skabeeva, Shein, etc.), as a selection. Are you still sure that they are among the rest
                    talented, hardworking and interesting

                    The very same Dibrov, after the well-known words that it’s enough to suck in power, will hardly be able to count on top programs on the Fed. channels.
                    Or Nevzorov. Yes, a very controversial figure. But Nevzorov (as a journalist and presenter), and Soloviev, even nothing to compare in terms of talent.
                    Or I remember how M. Leontiev, being the host of the program. However, while also demonstrating his "talent", he fiercely branded those who came to Bolotnaya Square and insulted these people in his program.
                    And then it turned sour when Posner invited him to his program. And right in the face he asked (V. POSNER):
                    I wanted to make you an advertisement again. And besides, to say that, obviously, opposite you (since I went to Bolotnaya) - either, either a traitor, or led by a traitor, or a representative of orange slime, since you used all these words. And in front of me is a responsible patriot of Russia. I want to ask, is it right that you are addressing everyone who was there, including me? Or are you in the heat?

                    And that’s all, Leont'ev’s “talent” immediately evaporated. Leontiev bustled and looked frankly sorry.

                    PS All these top propagandists
                    talented, hardworking and interesting
                    exactly as long as they are interesting to the state and sit in their studios, with dummies like Kovtun. Do not look for talent where it is not.
                    They are paid for something completely different. hi
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                    Do not look for talent where it is not.

                  6. Igor Aviator April 28 2020 23: 18 New
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                    Nevzorov, by the way - a scoundrel of the first priority!
                    But Leontiev .... Well, Leontiev could not - a very cultured and adequate person, live on air to tell Pozner that he, Posner, acted as a provocateur and the very thing that G. is! ..! That's why he was chewing a little ... Leontiev is excusable! wink
                    And by the way, something often you worry about Rudolfovich’s money! Do you like to count other people's money? It smells bad!
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                  Well, envy gnaws a man! Other people's money haunt him! After all, it’s unfair and insulting - such money - and past HIS mouth!
              2. Ruslan67 April 28 2020 17: 51 New
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                Admire, relish - talent. hi
                Especially in the matter of re-shoes:

                Look at the air date is not fate? Even in Kiev, Yanukovych In the Crimea, our fleet and no Maidan request Need to fight with that Ukraine? fool
              3. Leshy1975 April 28 2020 18: 19 New
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                Quote: Ruslan67
                Quote: Leshy1975
                Admire, relish - talent. hi
                Especially in the matter of re-shoes:

                Look at the air date is not fate? Even in Kiev, Yanukovych In the Crimea, our fleet and no Maidan request Need to fight with that Ukraine? fool

                Yes, Ruslan, a traitor in 1941 and in 1945, these are two different types.
                In 1941, it was still not clear how it would turn around, so the traitors of 1941 can be understood and forgiven.
                A comparison of Solovyov, Crimea with Poland and Finland? fool
                Quote Solovyov: “God forbid. And how do you imagine this? <...> Firstly, there is no legal basis. Why do you need Crimea? <...> Why not Finland? <...> Why not Poland? <...> Why did we agree with the 1991 section? Well, let's collect the Russian empire ”
                Quote, Soloviev:
                «Do you want to fight with Ukraine? How many Ukrainian and Russian lives are you willing to put on to capture the Crimea, which has long become Tatar territory, the Crimean Tatars. Do you propose to destroy them? ”

                Yes, Ruslan. You Putriots, such weathercocks, the best weathercocks in the world.
                But what about the involvement of the Russian troops in the Crimea? Soloviev directly said that he was against the war with Ukraine. And the use of troops could just lead to this.
                Well point what to do with the Tatar territory of Crimea? What should the ether be like there? To assume that the Crimea has again become non-Tatar territory? fool

                PS You better walk past. fool Really - Why do you need Crimea? If the political wind changes, you are the first to demand its return. Because weathercocks.
              4. Ruslan67 April 28 2020 18: 33 New
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                Quote: Leshy1975
                You Putriots, such weathercocks, the best weathercocks in the world.
                But what about the involvement of the Russian troops in the Crimea?

                Would there be a coup would not involve
                Quote: Leshy1975
                Why not Finland? <...> Why not Poland?

                Need a reason Will be back yes
                Quote: Leshy1975
                Well, and most importantly, what to do with the Tatar territory of Crimea?

                They took away formally asking everyone and not just the Tatars
                Quote: Leshy1975
                Why did we agree with the 1991 section? Well, let's collect the Russian empire ”

                yes And Alaska with Hawaii and Hokkaido too Just wait a bit
              5. Leshy1975 April 28 2020 18: 42 New
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                Quote: Ruslan67
                Quote: Leshy1975
                Why not Finland? <...> Why not Poland?

                Need a reason Will be back


                yes And Alaska with Hawaii and Hokkaido too Just wait a bit


                Very "witty." Especially such a joke should come in the Donbass. I say, Putreots are the best weathercocks in the World.
              6. Ruslan67 April 28 2020 18: 44 New
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                Especially such a joke should come in the Donbass.

                As soon as they stop raving by the People's Republics so immediately Or will we reformat the country under two bits?
              7. Leshy1975 April 28 2020 18: 48 New
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                Quote: Ruslan67
                Quote: Leshy1975
                Especially such a joke should come in the Donbass.

                As soon as they stop raving by the People's Republics so immediately Or will we reformat the country under two bits?

                Which country to reformat? And why is it Donbass stubs, unlike the Crimea? And what, Donbass, has an independent policy and is not controlled from the Kremlin?
              8. Ruslan67 April 28 2020 19: 13 New
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                Quote: Leshy1975
                Which country to reformat?

                Our
                Quote: Leshy1975
                And why is it Donbass stubs, unlike the Crimea?

                Crimea became part of Russia in its administrative borders and not by two circumcised territories
                Quote: Leshy1975
                And what, Donbass, has an independent policy and is not controlled from the Kremlin?

                It is So far that they are allowed to play with subjectivity Until the right moment Or another Maidan, with the removal of the current government in Kuev
              9. Leshy1975 April 28 2020 19: 24 New
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                Quote: Ruslan67
                Quote: Leshy1975
                Which country to reformat?

                Our
                Quote: Leshy1975
                And why is it Donbass stubs, unlike the Crimea?

                Crimea became part of Russia in its administrative borders and not by two circumcised territories
                Quote: Leshy1975
                And what, Donbass, has an independent policy and is not controlled from the Kremlin?

                It is So far that they are allowed to play with subjectivity Until the right moment Or another Maidan, with the removal of the current government in Kuev

                Why it was possible to reformat the country near Crimea, but no longer under Donbass, this is the second question. I am more interested in this:
                So they still give play in the subjectivity from the Kremlin, or are they independent political players? Favorite weather vane pose again? Tell me directly - is Donbass politically independent or not? You yourself convinced me above
                As soon as they stop raving the People's Republics so soon
                Donbass immediately asked for membership in the Russian Federation, and they wanted to hold a referendum on joining. Yes, the Kremlin has banned.
              10. Ruslan67 April 28 2020 19: 31 New
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                Quote: Leshy1975
                Why is it possible to reformat a country near Crimea,

                belay Two subjects entered on a common basis and all
                Quote: Leshy1975
                So they still give play in the subjectivity from the Kremlin, or are they independent political players?

                Independent yes As soon as they recognize that they’re not just what they want, but what they will be told in the Kremlin, they’ll enter right away
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                Donbass immediately asked for membership in the Russian Federation, and they wanted to hold a referendum on joining.
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                Why is it possible to reformat a country near Crimea,

                belay Two subjects entered on a common basis and all
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                So they still give play in the subjectivity from the Kremlin, or are they independent political players?

                Independent yes As soon as they recognize that they’re not just what they want, but what they will be told in the Kremlin, they’ll enter right away
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                Donbass immediately asked for membership in the Russian Federation, and they wanted to hold a referendum on joining.

                Well, I’m more inclined to believe Surkov and Beard, that Donbass is not politically independent. And not your ravings, I'm sorry. Your nonsense is not confirmed by anything, but Surkov is still a figure, until recently, close to Putin. And it’s just overseeing the Donbass, who doesn’t know the true situation for him:
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                more inclined to believe Surkov and Boroday about the fact that Donbass is not politically independent. Not your ravings

                Where did he voice it? In Minsk or Norman format? Formally, they are completely independent request And it will come and a lot bully And who doesn’t like the sexual reform league? wassat
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                more inclined to believe Surkov and Boroday about the fact that Donbass is not politically independent. Not your ravings

                Where did he voice it? In Minsk or Norman format? Formally, they are completely independent request And it will come and a lot bully And who doesn’t like the sexual reform league? wassat

                So I'm interested in the real state of things, and not discuss your sexual fantasies about the Donbass, especially in your favorite format:
                While 152 mm didn’t fly into the bread, they didn’t remember Mother about Russia
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                So I’m interested in the real state of things,

                I wrote to you. Reality has nowhere to go. And the fact that it does not suit such personal problems. There is no ideal and will not be. Moreover, in such a situation
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                So I’m interested in the real state of things,

                I wrote to you. Reality has nowhere to go. And the fact that it does not suit such personal problems. There is no ideal and will not be. Moreover, in such a situation

                Yes, you do not even understand the meaning of the simple word reality, but you are still climbing on others to teach the meaning of the more complex concept of liberal.
                Reality is existing in reality.
                So, the negotiations between Surkov and Beard are a reality, and your unsubstantiated statements about the Donbass are ordinary verbiage.
                The meaning of the word - verbiage, explain?
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                So, the negotiations between Surkov and Beard are a reality,

                yes Which officially does not appear anywhere
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                and your unsubstantiated statements about Donbass-ordinary verbiage.

                Which is visible to everyone except Leshy
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                So, the negotiations between Surkov and Beard are a reality,

                yes Which officially does not appear anywhere
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                and your unsubstantiated statements about Donbass-ordinary verbiage.

                Which is visible to everyone except Leshy

                Reality does not need official recognition. fool
                Vatican, only in 1992 officially recognizedthat the earth moves around the sun. And something that was not recognized before, did it somehow cancel the movement of the planets, the real state of affairs?

                PS So you can get out as much as you like. I told you right away
                You better walk past
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    ultimatum

    Quote: A. Gaidar, “Timur and his team”
    - ... an ultimatum. What is it, I don’t know ... - This is such an international word. They will beat ...

    Inspired: "reproach." Reproach was given by a large, lumpy club belay
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    Present ultimatum in the kidneys, in the kidneys

    It seems that such kidneys do not have a heart .. hi
    One stomach and lower abdomen ..
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    ... like - in a company. By all formal grounds - a typical troll. Steadfast

    With epaulettes and straps and how many of these have been activated recently ..
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    What check? You need to kick them, in your free time ... that's the whole "CheKa"

    Kick and then such a stink begins .. I'm afraid, to be honest khe khe hi
  • Leshy1975 April 28 2020 19: 14 New
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    Goblin, and Goblin? Do you know the first distinguishing feature of a troll? The troll answers a specifically asked question with the same “nightingale”, ahem, a trill, as you just answered now - to a very specific question asked to you:

    But it’s not like a troll, but from the ideological and most dangerous neolibers and other Vlasovites in the fifth column .. You need to be on the alert ..

    Is it for you, Zaputinists, such a distinguishing feature, to put everyone on your team — liberals and Vlasovites? Putin, in his words, is a liberal. And all his entourage and friends of the 90s, there even no words are needed.
    You already somehow manage without me, I'm from another team.
    I will be from the team of red imperials and leftists.
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    Putin, in his words, is a liberal.

    Do you know the meaning of the word?
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    I will be from the team of red imperials and leftists.

    Maoist from Congo or Faithful Polpotovets?
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    Putin, in his words, is a liberal.

    Do you know the meaning of the word?
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    I will be from the team of red imperials and leftists.

    Maoist from Congo or Faithful Polpotovets?

    1) I know exactly what Putin said about his political views, he knows better who he is. And I know the composition of his entourage and their merits in the 90s, by the way, the exploits of Putin, are also partially known. When he was an assistant to Sobchak (say that Sobchak is not a liberal), this is when a criminal case was opened over the theft of funds.
    2) No, I'm just a supporter of one red empire - the USSR. Leave the rest to yourself.
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    And I know the composition of his entourage and their merits in the 90s, by the way, the exploits of Putin, are also partially known. When he was his assistant, Sobchak

    Enlighten me sick crying I lived in St. Petersburg from 93 to 99 in the district administration. Suddenly, I missed something. what
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    And I know the composition of his entourage and their merits in the 90s, by the way, the exploits of Putin, are also partially known. When he was his assistant, Sobchak

    Enlighten me sick crying I lived in St. Petersburg from 93 to 99 in the district administration. Suddenly, I missed something. what

    Enlighten:
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    Sentence of the court in the studio fellow No? recourse From the beach am tongue
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    Sentence of the court in the studio fellow No? recourse From the beach am tongue

    Of course not. And will not be. While the president of GDP. And also it will not be against Chubais and the rest, while they are in power. But while there will be Yeltsin centers and “temples” with the image of “heroes” of the 90s. This is me about Shoigu, including, who promised his friend Gaidar (also not a liberal?) To issue machines in the days of the 1993 coup.


    PS And about the "beach", that is, the country
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    I will be from the team of red imperials and leftists

    Levakov - I agree. Full leftist request

    They have peppers ... um, well - them, so them ... this, by the way, does not cancel your pathological tendency to idle talk.

    Quote: Leshy1975
    deal without me somehow

    Yes, and would be happy - without you, you are tired, buddy, worse than a vegetable, that radish is not sweeter ... but you all hang around here. And while you hang around, you’ll be kicked, so let’s do it without personal insults yes
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    Is it for you, Zaputinists, such a distinguishing feature, to put everyone on your team — liberals and Vlasovites?

    Wait, now I’ll write you in my journal ..)))) bully
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    You already somehow manage without me, I'm from another team.
    I will be from the team of red imperials and leftists.

    Well, the gnoliberasts (Socialist-Revolutionaries, Mensheviks, and other mischief-makers with Kerensky), who in February 1917 broke up the Tsar’s empire and overthrew the Tsar and then unleashed a civil war involving Germans and other anthants across all borders of Russia (even the Japanese, we landed in the Far East and terribly atrocious .. ...?
    Well then you know what the USSR was created and then the same as you again destroyed it with your whining, etc. .. Well, everything is clear with you Lesha, in short, go through the woods and people don’t get bogged down here .. negative
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    Is it for you, Zaputinists, such a distinguishing feature, to put everyone on your team — liberals and Vlasovites?

    Wait, now I’ll write you in my journal ..)))) bully
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    You already somehow manage without me, I'm from another team.
    I will be from the team of red imperials and leftists.

    Well, the gnoliberasts (Socialist-Revolutionaries, Mensheviks, and other mischief-makers with Kerensky), who in February 1917 broke up the Tsar’s empire and overthrew the Tsar and then unleashed a civil war involving Germans and other anthants across all borders of Russia (even the Japanese, we landed in the Far East and terribly atrocious .. ...?
    Well then you know what the USSR was created and then the same as you again destroyed it with your whining, etc. .. Well, everything is clear with you Lesha, in short, go through the woods and people don’t get bogged down here .. negative

    No, I know that the USSR was ruined by specific individuals, many of whom later participated in the seizure of power in 1993: Chubais, Kudrin, Gaidar, Putin, Shoigu and other living people.
    Nothing that this is your team - a team of grave diggers and killers of the USSR.

    And about the whining, this is your favorite stamp number two, after the first number - recording everyone on their liberal team.
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    You Putriots, such weathercocks, the best weathercocks in the world.

    But they still preserved Russia from collapse, to such evil to you .. hi
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    In 1941, it was still not clear how it would turn around, so the traitors of 1941 can be understood and forgiven.
    A comparison of Solovyov, Crimea with Poland and Finland?

    And what a good comparison, Jews always keep their nose upwind .. The same Wasserman won announced the imminent restoration of the USSR ..
    So there’s no claim to us .. Russia is going its own way, albeit wooded with ravines and ambushes, but we will fulfill our task! soldier
    And whoever wags our tail along the way or barks on the contrary, this is not important ..
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    Why did we agree with the 1991 section?

    A snack wink Show me at least one Donetsk militia sample1991 what While 152 mm didn’t fly in, they didn’t remember Mother about Russia. But the Dniester ultras are another song
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    Why did we agree with the 1991 section?

    A snack wink Show me at least one Donetsk militia sample1991 what While 152 mm didn’t fly in, they didn’t remember Mother about Russia. But the Dniester ultras are another song

    Immediately after you show me other 1991 militias - Crimean, Polish, Finnish, as well as militias from Alaska, Hawaii and Hokkaido. Which are you going to attach after the Crimea.
    And the fact that you have a relation to the Russian Donbass at the level
    Until 152 mm flew into the bread

    This of course says a lot. You yourself probably also were in the Donbass, and your meal was not like that of those Russians, but special. I even think that you and Rudolfofich have roughly the same slurp. Not, not by nationality, but by the ability to find a feeding trough.
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    and your slurp is not like that of those Russians,

    Russian-speaking citizens of a foreign state
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    after you show me other 1991 militias - Crimean, Polish, Finnish, as well as militias from Alaska, Hawaii and Hokkaido. Which are you going to attach after the Crimea.

    I forgot about spratland. She is closer to me. Just do not attach after stripping.
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    And people like you are fools and provocateurs! Moreover, stupid provocateurs who are not aware of their provocation!
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    He said everything correctly, to return the Crimea through a war-crime. But through the referendum, it turned out great.
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    I remember about 10-15 years ago when he just appeared on TV he waged some kind of verbal fights and the type wasn’t biased. I really liked him in two moves and puzzled his opponent. but what he is doing on TV now is impossible to watch for an outside observer how much aggression of rudeness towards opponents. the head already hurts from this aggressive pitch. about this little house in Italy, this is a real patriot. not a supporter of Vasya but it is incomparably smaller on TV. that here the author was hooked on the foreign origin of the site with a petition for the machinations of the West, etc., which causes even greater disgust. make a petition on the Russian site and I will spend my 5 minutes
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    At the beginning of the XNUMXs, all these talking heads such as Solovyov, Norkin, Kiselev drowned for the people and denounced the authorities. Then they realized that they did not pay for representing the interests of the people and immediately rushed to bleach this power, because it was ready to pay for it and not it’s not enough. I am extremely suspicious of those people who, in their own words, jump like a flea on shaggy balls. Talent and hard work smells here only in the context of the length of the tongue
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    "earned their labor" Umora ..))

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        Yeah, that one in the city on the hill, the same theft is called nobly - lobbyism. Well, our national idea is not for you, vicious, envious and stupid Ukrainians to discuss.

        What the hell are you talking about. For this "national idea" at all times in Russia, heads were slaughtered and sent to prison. And when this became too much, and it happened, then the time of unrest and revolution came.

        PS Justice is the Russian idea.
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          Justice is the Russian idea.

          Exactly what is an idea. In practice, such a flagrant injustice as in the Russian Federation still look.
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      "earned their labor" Umora ..))

      If you wrote this in the United States and about the United States, you would have been fried in an electric chair for a long time and even a lawyer would not have been given ...
      And we can ...
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    They earned buns with their labor

    Since when has lies become hard work? belay
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      In this case, lies are goods for which there is a great demand. And as a buyer to dispose of the goods, the seller does not care.
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        goods in great demand.

        This is not demand, but an imposed supply. People who do not have access to alternative information absorb this product without filtering. These are mainly retirees.
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          Do not worry. People have a head on their shoulders, and they themselves are responsible for their choice.
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          People have a head on their shoulders, and they themselves are responsible for their choice.

          And let's legalize drugs - people have a head on their shoulders, yet they understand that this is very harmful. wink
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    Isn't that envy? They earned buns with their labor, and not for the seat on the couch.

    Yes. Here, the young Padawan, was also able to earn his own buns. Smog, and earned, but did not sit on the couch:


    PS The tale is a lie, but a hint in it.
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    The key phrase is that you need to earn more, and not to be vain and consider other people's villas in Italy, typical of the Sharikovs, correctly, Professor Preobrazhensky did not like you.
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      The key phrase is to earn more,

      laughing
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          My friend, God forbid, of course, such friends - beggars, learn how to roll a penny into a house, and not envy.

          You have a vicious worldview. The idea of ​​making more money and becoming successful is vicious from the very beginning. How to cut down more money by working as a fireman, doctor, plumber, teacher? Only taking bribes. But these are necessary professions, the need for which is many times higher than the top managers.
          Salaries of working professions should be sufficient to provide a normal (and not existing) living wage to his wife and at least two children.
          Otherwise, society will degrade, morally and demographically.
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            The vicious worldview of those who do not know how to make money accuses others of their problems, but in fact - envies. I do not blame anyone for my problems and do not envy anyone. If I do not have a house in Italy, then this is exclusively my problem. And, by the way, the presence or absence of patriotism has nothing to do with the presence of real estate in the same place. The article is not about the fact that the worker cannot feed two children, however, that I do not see the poor on the streets of Russian cities, as in the nineties. And the workers' salaries are exactly the amount that these workers earn. Personally, I know a welder with a salary of 200000 rubles.
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            those who do not know how to make money blame others for their problems,

            How do you make money as a doctor in a rural hospital? Leave the village, go to Moscow? No, my friend, you need not blame the little earners of envy, while they barely make ends meet. And do not mention welded with s / n in two hundred mowers. For this is an exception. But it should be the other way around. On the ground, people should be able to earn money, and not around the country on a watch.
            It’s not for nothing that I mentioned demography — Russia will die out at such a pace, because it is only for Putin that s / n 17 belong to the middle class. With this money it’s unrealistic to even raise one. Sweet places are one in a hundred at best.
            I’ll repeat your recipe as vicious - you are promoting the wrong ideals.
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            his high salary bothers Solovyov

            And I'm interested, because it is not clear why the hell does a tele-jester make hundreds, if not thousands of times more, of a village doctor. And this is not envy, but a misunderstanding of the system of remuneration of labor, where its social significance is not taken into account at all.
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        And the workers' salaries are exactly the amount that these workers earn.

        I am glad that you live in a blessed land of pink elves. But here, in the real world, everything happens a little bit wrong. Workers are able to “work out” exactly as much as the employer (the capitalist, what can be deceived) is ready to pay them for their ability to work. And he is ready to pay no more than labor, this specialty and qualification, is on the labor market.
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        Personally, I know a welder with a salary of 200000 rubles.

        I wonder how much he will receive if the demand for welders of this qualification falls, and no one needs him? Would he have to admit that he:
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        not knowing how to make money, blames others for his problems, but in fact - envies.
        ??
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      I don’t know about teachers and firefighters. A doctor, especially in a larger city, can get a paid clinic. And an intelligent plumber will always be provided with good earnings, as well as a person involved in the decoration of apartments. Unless, of course, he does well and does not drink everything clean.
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    My friend, God forbid, of course, such friends - beggars, learn how to roll a penny into a house, and not envy. I don’t have a house in Italy, but I don’t blame anyone for this - I’m looking for all my problems in myself, and not in those who have this house. And I recommend you turn on yourself, get out of the couch and do at least something to earn, and not shine here with the face of a moron from a stupid series. And yes, Solovyov does not have Italian citizenship, it is time to know this. I understand that the heir of the ancient Ukrainian nation does not have enough IQ level to dig into the internet and find out, but it’s not my fault - Ukrainians are stupid, vicious, envious, this is probably a national trait.

    Teach me, please, I beg you - how to become a millionaire in the Russian Federation? For starters, you can and in rubles. That I would throw and forget friends of rogue and half-rogue friends, and become your friend. repeat
    And then somehow the minimum wage is not very inspiring, however, like the two at once. Life, some kind of expensive thing, cannot afford it.

    PS Come on, dictate. Just slow down, I'm recording.
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      Do not understand. To do this, you must have a minimum mind. Well, count on the minimum wage - 5 points. You will never even become a penny millionaire.
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      Do not understand. To do this, you must have a minimum mind.

      But what is it, I’m not only not a millionaire, but I haven’t gone out of my mind either.

      PS Ah, and what wonderful tips, how they distributed it. And I am not far away, and already seduced.
      Don’t be angry, Barin, that we should take the orphans and the wretched from us. They did not lead the flog, and thanks for that. hi
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    I recommend you

    For starters - on the "you". Mom didn’t teach? Secondly, I do not need your recommendations.
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    get out of the couch and do at least something to earn money, and not shine here

    Thirdly, do not be rude.
    Fourth, I have more than 40 years of experience, you were not in the project when I started working.
    Fifth, I am self-sufficient, but how close my colleagues and relatives live and work, I am completely not happy.
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    the heir of the ancient Ukrainian nation lacks an IQ level,

    Sixth, my roots are from s. Look, where is it
    Seventh, my IQ has long been appreciated and you will not be comforted
    In the eighth, you would walk in the forest ...
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      Your IQ is appreciated by me immediately and accurately. A humanoid with a level of at least 20, the silvester is shy to use. Do not decrease, do not add. And Ukrainians, i.e. stupid, spiteful and envious, you can be anywhere. This is a lineage, not a place of birth.

      Seryozha, do not you think that in rudeness you are already beginning to cross all sorts of borders. Will you still decide who is human and who is humanoid.
      You are a bastard and cause a feeling of disgust, Seryozha.
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    professor Preobrazhensky

    Do not you yourself and Solovyov, etc., compare with Professor Preobrazhensky.
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        Write the address, and tell me in the face ...

        Typical apologist for the evening bell ringer. As the litter is hysterical and bullied by its opponents, so are its fans. What is pop, such is parish.
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          Write the address, and tell me in the face ...

          Typical apologist for the evening bell ringer. As the litter is hysterical and bullied by its opponents, so are its fans. What is pop, such is parish.

          That's for sure. Today, the defenders of evening M. showed themselves in all its glory. For a long time already there was no such thing at VO - frank rudeness and even a mate, addressed to opponents. Is this not the best illustration that Solovyov (unfortunately not only he alone) cultivates anger and hatred among his audience.
          1. snake April 28 2020 17: 53 New
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            Let us hope that Soloviev reap what he sowed.
  • Roman123567 April 28 2020 11: 09 New
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    Personally, I watch programs with Solovyov and I like them.


    Next article:
    "We do not live in the USSR! Acts of optimizers"
    On the closure of the Angara branch of IAPND

    I did not expect to work so fast ..
  • Malyuta April 28 2020 08: 12 New
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    Quote: Stas157
    The petition is honest, but this article, whitewashing the most disgusting pro-government propagandist, is not very good.

    DUST OF PURE WATER!
    I support all the epithets utkin expressed in the evening. and part-time resident of Lake Como, kneeling for Italian citizenship.
    Quote: Stas157
    and the people really love Solovyov ??

    After a short period of time, the people will express all their sincere and huge loubof to the citizen Shapiro.
    As one famous Ph.D. said: "walked together, hang together"
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      Quote: Malyuta
      I support all the epithets utkin expressed in the evening.

      And I do not support. Why did Utkin offend the monkey by comparing this Judas with her? Even in terms of leveling, Solovyov will give odds to any monkey by a hundred points ahead.
  • Banshee April 28 2020 08: 23 New
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    Quote: Stas157
    The petition is honest, but this article, whitewashing the most disgusting pro-government propagandist, is not very good.


    I agree to 146%. I never thought that a colleague would collapse before defending the mouthpiece of power. Sadly ...
    1. tovarich-andrey.62goncharov April 28 2020 10: 24 New
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      "mouthpiece of power" - do you have any specific complaints or everything at the blah blah blah level?
      1. Roman123567 April 28 2020 11: 19 New
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        An interesting situation ..
        When a person has eyes, like a pig - you can "specifically" accentuate the eyes ..
        When someone’s ears are like a pig’s, it’s possible to “specifically” make claims to the ears’ account.
        Or "specifically" on the nose walk ..

        But when we go to the pigsty, and there is a real pig .. it’s difficult to do something. Specifically, make a claim ..
  • knn54 April 28 2020 08: 43 New
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    "The battle of the Jews" is already getting it.
  • Maverick78 April 28 2020 08: 47 New
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    The article is correct. Take and check. And sideways specifically on Solovyov.
  • NEXUS April 28 2020 09: 40 New
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    Quote: Stas157
    The author believes that Solovyov did not suffer deservedly, but the people really love Solovyov ??

    The author is far from the topic he writes about as the South Pole and the North.
    The reason is the scandal and abuse of Solovyov and Utkin very funny ...
    Journalist Vasily Utkin spoke on the topic of self-isolation in Russia in the context of the coronavirus pandemic.

    “There is only one question:“ State, why the hell am I right now, at this moment? ” I would basically stay at home myself, probably. I sat out in other situations.

    But in the end, for many years, for decades, I’m throwing everything off and taking off a share of your earnings, you take some of the money from me myself, and I will never see it. I mean the so-called Pension Fund. And no one will ever see them, this is completely obvious.

    Is that all for what? In order to have our turnip lost now, they reminded me of some Kipchaks, and on this we parted, or what? That is, at my own expense, in fact, I am sitting at home, I locked myself up, I pay for the apartment, all taxes and so on.

    What's this? What for what did I unfasten taxes every month for thirty years, or what? Somehow I am very disappointed with all this. I don’t need such a state. For nothing, ”Utkin said on the air of the Panopticon program on the Dozhd TV channel.

    After this post, Soloviev attacked Utkin. Not to mention the fact that in a free country everyone has the right to their own personal opinion, the question immediately arises - what did Utkin write wrong about? This is not in defense of Utkin in the scandal with Solovyov, but in the very essence of what he expressed.
    Does the state take care of its citizens who are self-insulating and eating their last money?
    It is clear that this was said through the liberal liberal Rain ... then Nevzorov defended Utkin and so on. Which is coupled with the fact that the "mouthpiece of the Kremlin" (Solovyov) condemned all this and gave such an effect. Urpatriotic Russians do not suit, the liberal side also harvest tons of excrement.
    For me personally, this scandal is anecdotal.
    Two journalists from federal channels srachali on YouTube and Facebook. And two adults, not a kid. The behavior of both is stupid, funny and extremely unprofessional.
    Well, at the expense of Solovyov personally ... I haven’t watched his evening talk for a long time. This Kremlin Shoutbox does not even bother to at least discuss something or invite interesting interlocutors there. Invites one Koftun and together in 5 snouts they kick his entire gear. What a fun.
    1. Roman123567 April 28 2020 11: 21 New
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      But I, in the end, for many years, for decades, throw everything away and give it to you share from my earnings some piece of money you take it from me yourself


      So part of the money goes to this very solozvon ..
      From that and attacked ..))
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    1. Kronos April 28 2020 11: 23 New
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      They are the same citizens and have the right to speak out about Solovyov
  • Hagen April 28 2020 12: 05 New
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    Quote: Stas157
    The author believes that Solovyov did not suffer deservedly, but the people really love Solovyov ??

    Please tell me why you need to love Solovyov? I personally hate him, and his eternal mention of Jewish affiliation causes quite unhealthy feelings. But, regardless of my attitude towards him, the audience in his programs gathers the most venerable. Few, to whom else, come the very ministers who can give first-hand information, bypassing its interpretation by political scientists-impostors. Of course, the ministers do not tell all that I would like to hear. But they don’t even have at least a primitive moron. You hear every time from characters like Kovtun. You can listen to the open air on the "star". In any case, the first time it was announced by an insider that under Poroshenko, NATO paid salaries to senior officers of the Armed Forces of Ukraine. All the other talk shows, I think, can safely skip ears.
    1. Malyuta April 28 2020 12: 14 New
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      Quote: Hagen
      in his programs the most venerable is going. Few, to whom else, come the very ministers who can give information "first hand", bypassing its interpretation by political scientists-impostors.

      You say everything correctly, only it should be noted that they are just impostors and are distinguished by a special degree of cynical, but
      Quote: Hagen
      primitive moron.zma,

      PySy. For the opponent’s quotes, my editorial team is not responsible. hi
      1. Hagen April 28 2020 17: 35 New
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        Quote: Malyuta
        they are just impostors and are distinguished by a special degree of cynical

        "I hate power and money while they are in the wrong hands." wassat
    2. NEXUS April 28 2020 13: 28 New
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      Quote: Hagen
      But, regardless of my attitude towards him, the audience in his programs gathers the most venerable.

      And the most pro-Kremlin, which is the most hypocritical. Or do you recall Chubais, Kudrin or Serdyukov, whom the Kremlin brazenly and cynically covers?
      The audience in the studio should be different with a different view of the problems, and not like the Kremlin’s kenar — five broadcast the same thing, that the Kremlin needs to be broadcast, but one or two (most often from Ukraine) like experts for contrast. Like you see how frostbitten they are, and we Dartanyans.
      Who is Soloviev? Journalist. So from what kind of vegetable is he only heard in the studio? He spread a booth on the federal channel, with swearing, like Sobchag in House-2.
      Or maybe Kiselev is better? Thanks to people like Kiselyov, Solovyov and others like them, the desire to turn on the TV in the evening causes many to gag.
      The same eggs with Nevzorov, Sobchag and so on ...
      Television has long been commercialized and bought either by the opposition or the ruling circles.
      And the people look at and spit on these monkeys. For a long time there are no normal journalists on television. Some are gulp, balabol and empty chimes. Give them seeds in their hands and do not give not to take, grandmother at the entrance.
      1. Hagen April 28 2020 18: 12 New
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        Quote: NEXUS
        Or do you recall Chubais, Kudrin or Serdyukov, whom the Kremlin brazenly and cynically covers?

        I assume that you know about these three from the TV.
        Quote: NEXUS
        Who is Soloviev? Journalist.

        Not only. He is an engineer by education, Ph.D. with practice in schools and universities, including over the hill, an entrepreneur and shareholder of Gazprom since 1998. Narcissistic and rude, do not take away. But smart and has a diverse experience. So you, calling it a vegetable, obviously consider yourself qualitatively better than him. What successes and achievements can you outshine your opponent?
        Quote: NEXUS
        azvel booth on the federal channel

        Go to TV and offer your program. If you claim that Soloviev is a mediocrity, then you have better ideas?
        Quote: NEXUS
        Television has long been commercial

        Therefore, the channel that pays for it sees from it a commercial "way out" sufficient to pay him what is in the pictures of VO.
        Quote: NEXUS
        And the people look at and spit on these monkeys.

        And for the people do not worry. Nobody authorized you to speak on his behalf. I do not spit. What I don't like, I just don't watch. And I’m trying to filter what I’m watching. You, in all the splash of emotions, did not give a practical argument against Soloviev, where he lied or said something that was not in accordance with the state of things. I also do not like him with his frequent hysterical antics and the mention of his own Jewry. But there is something that can be taken into account. It is to take into account, and not blindly trust. Something then can be rechecked by other sources. And all this hatred on the branch - it seems to me not quite the right reaction to the outside world. Some kind of psychosis ... More positive, I think you have to be ..
        1. NEXUS April 28 2020 20: 02 New
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          Quote: Hagen
          I assume that you know about these three from the TV.

          According to their actions, dear. Do you know them personally?
          Quote: Hagen
          So you, calling it a vegetable, obviously consider yourself qualitatively better than him. What successes and achievements can you outshine your opponent?

          Unlike this VEGETABLE, I have achieved my level in the profession, for which I am not ashamed. But this cunning Jew, he doesn’t care today to drown for Putin, and tomorrow will be with the same zeal for Navalny, if he becomes president. Such a journalist with LOW SOCIAL RESPONSIBILITY. Although this is precisely what he differs little from his opponents.
          Quote: Hagen
          Go to TV and offer your program. If you claim that Soloviev is a mediocrity, then you have better ideas?

          Well, Soloviev seems to be calling himself a journalist and apparently piously believes in this. And at the expense of the idea, dear ... well, when in the program, where the essence is, it is a discussion, but you can only hear the invitees, but the host himself ... well, I think this clearly speaks of the level of this host. And if this kind of professional presenter arranges a booth and abuse on the federal channel in prime time, then you need to drive such a clown into the neck from the television with pissed rags, even without the right to settle on the most finished regional canal.
          Quote: Hagen
          You, in all the splash of emotions, did not give a practical argument against Soloviev, where he lied or said something that was not in accordance with the state of things.

          And he doesn’t lie ... he only says half the truth with a certain amount of GMOs. Such a blue thief who is ashamed of the fact that he can’t say everything. He burns fieryly at the expense of Ukraine, about the liberals, about America, but about our helmsmen and their showers, as it is very quiet, few and with lowered eyes.
          Quote: Hagen
          More positive, I think you have to be ..

          Seriously? A friend of mine went into quarantine, sort of like a valuable employee of a company where he worked for 8 years, and when he left quarantine he was unemployed, with two loans and three children with his wife. So, dear, you would not go with your positives on a certain sexual journey away and for longer.
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            Quote: NEXUS
            Seriously? A friend of mine went into quarantine, sort of like a valuable employee of a company where he worked for 8 years, and when he left quarantine he was unemployed, with two loans and three children with his wife. So, dear, you would not go with your positives on a certain sexual journey away and for longer.

            Well, this is the only concrete thing your imagination comes to. "I have one friend ...." - it is enchanting ... Here you are yourself - boor. This is my assessment of you for very specific actions. Everything else you said only confirms to me the assumption that you, sir, are not a very valuable asset of your company.
            Quote: NEXUS
            he doesn’t care, today drowning for Putin, and tomorrow will be with the same zeal for Navalny

            Has tomorrow already arrived? In my opinion, the characteristic of a "vegetable" is much closer to you than to him. And I affirm this on the basis of your specific actions (printed text).
            So take the card to your address, at the same pace. The society of the rational is not your place.
  • 210ox April 28 2020 16: 33 New
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    They stand each other. That Solovyov, that this Utkin ... I want to spit on the TV.
  • Far B April 28 2020 05: 29 New
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    quite standard training of the degraded Utkin on throwing own excrement
    Excuse me, the author, but Solovyov - not degraded? And he never throws excrement? Strange warp.
    The fact that the platform where the petition is compiled - foreign - is an obvious attraction for the ears of an insignificant fact, an owl to the globe. Soloviev really got many of them with his aggressiveness and inadequacy. So signed up. And in general, in RuNet there are a lot of popular sites with foreign registration - blame everyone in the information war? And if the registration of some resource is Russian, but he is against the policy of the current authorities and openly talks about it - is it also an infoway? Or just people take the opportunity to express their opinion. My IMHO - rather, the last option is more likely.
    1. lwxx April 28 2020 05: 51 New
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      I support, already got these "pillars of patriotism" with foreign registration and citizenship - Solovyov Kisilev and other pozner. They learn how to love their homeland, while housing and families themselves are on the hill.
      1. mark2 April 28 2020 07: 22 New
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        That's right. Doloy!
        The patriot must be poor, unshaven, in an alcoholic T-shirt and constantly blame everyone for this, moreover, on the sofa and on the Internet.
        They teach how to love their homeland, but the housing and families themselves over the hill

        So you love the homeland, and it will be grateful to you.
        1. Stas157 April 28 2020 09: 32 New
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          Quote: mark2
          The patriot must be poor, unshaven, in an alcoholic T-shirt and constantly blame everyone for this, moreover, on the sofa and on the Internet.

          So they do not like Solovyov, not because he is simply rich. And for the hypocrisy that he sells for easy money. Probably nobody is paid so much for fooling the population, as the propagandist Solovyov.
          1. veritas April 28 2020 10: 00 New
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            Quote: Stas157
            Probably nobody is paid so much for fooling the population, as the propagandist Solovyov.

            Moreover, taxpayers pay. If commercial organizations paid, then in general questions would not have arisen. And then it turns out that state channels subsidize the government, which takes money from the pocket of citizens.
        2. tovarich-andrey.62goncharov April 28 2020 10: 26 New
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          There are simply more couches. But the mozgoff is less!
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  • Cottodraton April 28 2020 05: 42 New
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    Neither one nor the other impressed me.
    Both stand on opposite sides of the ideological struggle and both work for the interests of their groupings. Therefore, breaking spears here is pointless. It's just srach
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      1. Insurgent April 28 2020 07: 27 New
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        Srach - this is to write with mistakes ... wrestlers here snotty divorced
        Reply

        Your empty comment, not bearing a semantic component, is of course NOT srach?
  • Grading April 28 2020 05: 56 New
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    Kremlebot wrote an article. Jew offended.

    Kremlebots undermine the country from inside, spreading news of nonexistent successes and blabbering problems in key sectors: medicine, science, new technologies, etc. they justify rampant corruption, and not the effectiveness of the bureaucracy of the apparatus, serve the interests of the oligarchy. Kremlebotizm is the sale of the interests of the Motherland for 30 pieces of silver.
  • Ross xnumx April 28 2020 06: 00 New
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    No, I have absolutely no concern for Vladimir Rudolfovich. He is an experienced person, with excellent connections and legal defense, as they say, God forbid everyone. In addition, he is, to put it mildly, not deprived of finances.

    And in appearance you will not say. Therefore, it was necessary to “embed” an article about this propagandist precisely in VO? Vile in communication, two-faced, greedy little man, “loving” Russia from Italy from the shore of Lake Como? Verily:
    I love Russia, but with a strange love;
    My mind is at odds with her ...
    The experience of repainting black to white? Changing attitudes and attitudes towards the individual depending on the position held. A garbage show, where decent people should be ashamed to come. Even in such “Solovyov’s evenings” meetings, the presenters try to somehow explain their views. Here is a “dumb, constant” worship of those in power and a constant reminder to the audience of their involvement in the “God-chosen” ... I have not looked at the word “generally” for almost a year ...
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      Quote: ROSS 42
      A garbage show, where decent people should be ashamed to come.

      If not a secret, what are you watching? Or recommend a look ... Solovyov is not good? Okay .. And what is not ashamed to look from your point of view?
      1. Leshy1975 April 28 2020 12: 36 New
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        Quote: Hagen
        Quote: ROSS 42
        A garbage show, where decent people should be ashamed to come.

        If not a secret, what are you watching? Or recommend a look ... Solovyov is not good? Okay .. And what is not ashamed to look from your point of view?

        Cipollino and Dunno on the Moon, have not yet been declared extremist, it is better to reconsider. Maybe then you yourself can understand what you look. hi
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          Cipollino and Dunno on the Moon, have not yet been declared extremist, it is better to reconsider.

          Are you sure that it is your opinion that interests me? I asked a specific person a question. And you, not understanding the meaning (apparently nothing), decided to insert your "pennies." Not witty ...
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            Quote: Hagen
            Quote: Leshy1975
            Cipollino and Dunno on the Moon, have not yet been declared extremist, it is better to reconsider.

            Are you sure that it is your opinion that interests me? I asked a specific person a question. And you, not understanding the meaning (apparently nothing), decided to insert your "pennies." Not witty ...

            1) Are you here today, fans of evening M, recently registered on the site, were they all riveted in one place? But for all of you, like a carbon copy, one of the main arguments is to question the mental abilities of your opponent.
            2) The chat here is general, not private, they comment everything, everything that seemed necessary to anyone. Found my comment inappropriate - just don't answer.
            3) For the future, prepare some more additional arguments besides
            And you, not understanding the meaning (nothing can be seen)
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              3) For the future, prepare some more additional arguments besides
              And you, not understanding the meaning (nothing can be seen)

              Will have to clarify. The question was not asked in order to decide what to watch. And in order to understand what is important to the opponent, if he, of course, agrees to the discussion. And you begin to teach me how and when to understand something. I a scientist have long understood what I need in this life. I think it’s unlikely that you can expand my horizons with something. And do not be offended, I do not want to curtail your freedom of communication, just everything should be in place.
      2. Retvizan 8 April 28 2020 19: 12 New
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        "If it's not a secret, what are you watching? Or do you recommend watching ... Solovyov is not good? Okay .. But what is not ashamed to look from your point of view?" ...
        To be honest, I didn’t understand at all, then why were the minuses shipped?
        The essence of the question: what do you recommend to see?
        No one advised anything, but the minuses were instructed.))))
        Somehow it’s not right.
        1. Hagen April 28 2020 19: 26 New
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          Somehow it’s not right.

          I don’t get it either. But such a reaction is very revealing. There is a kind of "mainstream opinion." Any question to him means either disagreement or doubt about his righteousness, and therefore the reaction is "whoever is not with me is against me." The denial of this opinion is generally sedition and the occasion of all the car of heaven. A clear sign of a critical thinking deficit. Note that specifics, details, and analysis are extremely rare.
          1. Retvizan 8 April 29 2020 13: 49 New
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            ... "specifics, details, analysis are extremely rare" ...
            Well, it’s hard to disagree with you.
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              Quote: Retvizan 8
              Well, it’s hard to disagree with you.

              You know, I was watching Solovyov, yesterday’s program, in the background. The part that discussed ways to quarantine the economy. Soloviev advocated the transfer of medicine from the regions under state supervision. Prilepin said interesting things from my point of view. Actively participated in the discussion Galushka. Which of the commentators will be able to oppose their ideas with a real example? In this thread, in addition to the emotions of hatred and contempt for Solovyov, I did not see anything. Is this a civilized discussion? Sad ...
              1. Retvizan 8 April 29 2020 16: 56 New
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                They call Solovyov a "propagandist," but they themselves behave like the most ardent and radical propagandists, only "on the other side of the barricade."
                Why so? He has analytical programs, if he has his own head on his shoulders, listen, analyze, check the facts, if in doubt, draw conclusions ...
                Looks like the crowd "and the woman’s yaga is against," has subsided, otherwise we would have slammed the minuses.))))
  • Amateur April 28 2020 06: 04 New
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    Remove from the box Solovyov? Yes, what are you? This can lead to irreversible consequences!
    But your time struck too early
    And the feather of things from his hands fell.
    What a lamp of reason has faded!
    What a heart stopped beating!
    Years passed, passions abated,
    And you have risen high above us ...
    Cry, Russian land! But be proud -
    Since you stand under the sky
    You didn’t give birth to such a son
    And in the bowels did not take her back:
    Treasures of Mental Beauty
    Combined in it were graciously ...
    Mother nature! When would such people
    You sometimes didn’t send to the world
    The field of life has died out ...

    (Nekrasov)
  • nikolaj1703 April 28 2020 06: 15 New
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    Bots vote on this platform. The sense of this petition is ZERO!
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  • Ravil_Asnafovich April 28 2020 06: 15 New
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    Either the general will call the opposition, these two will share something, there’s really nothing to do, give them a broom, and for community service.
  • Li17 April 28 2020 06: 48 New
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    I know this platform, I even registered there, I wanted to demand the creation of a special department for receiving electronic fraud evidence of online purchases. What I noticed: Firstly, 90 percent of the mura in style, save from power, not force the government .... Secondly, a constant run over with the demand for financial assistance, and the "organizer" beats that the project is made purely on donations. Well and most importantly, as the author noted, the site promotion system is clearly debugged. In a word, it is worth recognizing that everything is on top here.
    And here it would be nice for our authorities to learn. To create an alternative site with state resources, where it was really possible to work out problems ... And then, according to the Constitution, we are making noise, but the fact that our government ignores this law ...
    1. kalibr April 28 2020 07: 52 New
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      Quote: lithium17
      And here it would be nice for our authorities to learn. Create an alternative site with state resources, where it was really possible to work out the problems ...

      Words are not a boy but a husband!
    2. Tank hard April 28 2020 09: 04 New
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      Quote: lithium17
      And here it would be nice for our authorities to learn. Create an alternative site with state resources, where it was really possible to work out problems

      They have no time, they earn all their strength ... request
    3. military_cat April 28 2020 09: 13 New
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      Quote: lithium17
      Create an alternative site with government resources
      Quote: kalibr
      Words are not a boy but a husband!
      Quote: Tank Hard
      They have no time, they earn all their strength ...
      You would at least ask a question. For a hundred years now, it has been created by presidential decree https://www.roi.ru/
      1. Li17 April 28 2020 09: 42 New
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        Thank you colleague! Although, as I understand it, this resource, though, despite being tied through public services, is clearly modest in order not to highlight the people’s desire to take up the burden of our government. This explains that this is especially not heard anywhere, even on specialized sites. For the sake of interest, I’ll draw up an application, which before that even had a basement in the public committee of the Ministry of Internal Affairs. So the criterion of truth .....
  • The leader of the Redskins April 28 2020 06: 51 New
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    Apparently, the author (and isn't he the “grandfather Makarii”, by chance what delirium was he carrying here recently?) Is not familiar with Soloviev’s earlier pearls, which he generously distributed to listeners on the air. Arrogantly so, with the arrangement, realizing that a person can not answer him.
    True, Urgant and Grebenshchikov answered. Then the “litter” suffered even more.
  • BISMARCK94 April 28 2020 06: 52 New
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    It is high time to remove him, let him go to Italy, Goebbels unfinished ...
  • Li17 April 28 2020 06: 55 New
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    But I can say one thing about Solovyov and his colleagues. In comparison with similar programs in UkrTV, we look very obscene, there are really leading ones and the participants give us an example! It is curious that my friend, a colleague in Ukraine, often looks ours, and I look at him ... Unfortunately, I have nothing to cover, it reassures me that he has nothing to cover in the mess in the country, which its presenters and participants show!
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      Quote: lithium17
      In comparison with similar programs in UkrTV, we look very obscene, there are really leading ones and the participants give us an example!

      Yes-ah ... But you found a worthy subject to follow ... No words request

      And Maidan, then, is an indicator of the maturity of the state and a model of democracy?
      1. Ingvar 72 April 28 2020 14: 34 New
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        You have found a worthy subject to follow ...

        You shouldn’t be so, and there are some points that were worth taking as an example.
    2. Maverick78 April 28 2020 08: 55 New
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      According to Ukrainian-TV relatively adequate channels - one hand is enough to count. Look, for example, Persian, 5, 24 ... Solovyov still has a lot of growth), but is there any growth?
      1. Li17 April 28 2020 09: 55 New
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        The question is, who is there and what carries this is understandable. And here is how all this is carried by a person. Even Ganapolsky and Kisilev, despite their curvature, look like nerds in comparison with our eagles and eagles!
    3. Olgovich April 28 2020 09: 50 New
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      In comparison with similar programs in UkrTV we look very obscenethere really are presenters and participants they give us an example!

      belay lol
      Nazi UK.propaganda you already ..... role model? fool

      Maybe show Russian experts on their talk shows, as it is on Russian, where frank ukpropagandisty-bastards freely carry Russophobian nonsense? but bring their position to Russian citizens?

      Let me remind you that in Ukraine in general prohibited Russian publications and TV
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      Unfortunately I have nothing to cover, one thing that reassures me is that he has nothing to cover

      So do you think that parity has been achieved? Oh well.
      1. Li17 April 28 2020 14: 42 New
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        Well, here is an example of propaganda. The text breaks out, and then a label is hung up!
  • sabakina April 28 2020 07: 03 New
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    Utkin is similar to Carslson. Buttons on the stomach are not enough.
    1. Ingvar 72 April 28 2020 14: 35 New
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      Utkin is similar to Carslson. Buttons on the stomach are not enough.

      They don’t need buttons, but one bubble of green, paired with Soloviev. To forehead anoint. bully
  • Freeman April 28 2020 07: 05 New
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    Quote: nikolaj1703
    Bots vote on this platform. The sense of this petition is ZERO!

    It's not even about bots. Petitions on Change.org simply do not have legal force, since it is really impossible to verify signatures.
    Maximum. that they can - "raise a wave" in the media. And the media we have, you know whose.

    Create petitions and vote on www.roi.ru
    To vote there, you must register on the website of public services Www.gosuslugi.ru.
    True, with the filing of the petition there is an "ambush", they undergo preliminary moderation.
    But if the petition gains 100 thousand signatures, then it is obliged to be accepted by the state. bodies.

    Read more here:
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    https://360tv.ru/news/obschestvo/pochemu-onlajn-peticii-na-changeorg-ne-imeyut-yuridicheskoj-sily-69008/
    2.
    https://aif.ru/society/law/vne_zakona_no_so_slavoy_est_li_tolk_v_peticiyah_iz_interneta
    1. Servisinzhener April 28 2020 21: 53 New
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      Www.roi.ru has “one fatal flaw”; it is not anonymous. So there are problems with fake initiatives and cheating. I noticed that many of the egregious are doing this from fake accounts created specifically for a specific purpose. Although nothing is new. Ilf and Petrov did not write an empty scene for Ostap Bender to search for a witness. When to the question: Are you a witness? The man turned around and left.
  • parusnik April 28 2020 07: 12 New
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    The show must go on ... It’s necessary to somehow let off steam from the boiler
  • depressant April 28 2020 07: 14 New
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    I saw a photograph and didn’t believe it: was Utkin so? I haven’t watched TV for so long (only news in urgent cases) that they would not have said that it was Utkin, and I would not have known.
  • Alex_59 April 28 2020 07: 15 New
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    The author did not need even two minutes to find a number of sites ready to "help in the promotion of petitions."
    It would be better if the author spent more than two minutes and tried to find out whether these services would be really fulfilled, or whether these are just scammers collecting money. And at the same time - how does the platform itself relate to such a service? Does it track or not? In social networks, such as instagrams, you can be easily banned for cheating likes, subscribers and other activities - the network monitors such activity and fights it. If Change is no more stupid than an instagram, but judging by the defirambs, there a certain mega-rich and cool structure rules everything, that is, people are not stupid, then they should have some mechanisms.
    Well and then, we all know how the elections are held in reality. Where, it seems, according to the passport, votes are cast. And voice wrapping is made easy and simple.
    1. Siberian April 28 2020 07: 46 New
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      I sign petitions (not all, of course, that pour in hundreds daily). Very intrusive letters came with a request for support of only 10, 100 rubles per month or as much as you can. Since I hold completely different, specific things with my money, here I refuse. So they blocked my ability to comment and discuss. Like this.
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    Do you authors here suffer from Solovyov’s ?? What language is that? Youngsters, are cowardly to solve the problem in a manly way, the author is a fan of Zolotov (Rosgv)? Why do not you respect your audience ?? And how to really get rid of this cattle from the screen ?? They also forgot Kiseleva, Sheina, Skabeyeva, well, the same marinka, valka, Zolotova, too, and their legion
  • Alex66 April 28 2020 07: 49 New
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    You can criticize Chenge as much as you like. Solovyov’s programs will not get better from this. It pours Ukraine from empty to empty proving to us that everything is fine with us. And when asked about pensions, he said that Russian citizens are not interested. Rating will be low. So there’s nothing to watch from him; he doesn’t touch the real topics that interest us, the authorities are afraid to hurt.
  • Clueless April 28 2020 07: 58 New
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    If not moderation here, I would say who the author is, and where to go :) That is when Solovyov obscenities, threatens with physical harm is this normal?
    The author is another corrupt Judah.
    1. snake April 28 2020 11: 08 New
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      If not moderation here, I would say who the author is and where to go

      He needs to go to the show to Solovyov and powder the brains of the target audience there. It’s also possible to earn money at Como’s house.
  • Varyag71 April 28 2020 08: 04 New
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    East wind, it’s already been clear to you where your smelly breeze blows
  • Million April 28 2020 08: 11 New
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    I have absolutely no concern for Vladimir Rudolfovich.

    "This" is also called by name middle name ???
    What war? Ask any Russian on the street how he relates to Solovyov, and at best hear foul language
  • nikvic46 April 28 2020 08: 15 New
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    After Soloviev and Utkin publicly talked to each other, they need to wash their mouth with soap and water. This is not a polemic, but a conversation between two bazaar women.
    1. Tank hard April 28 2020 09: 10 New
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      Quote: nikvic46
      After Soloviev and Utkin publicly talked to each other, they need to wash their mouth with soap and water. This is not a polemic, but a conversation between two bazaar women.

      After Matvienko called the citizens of the country trolls and there was nothing for her, a story like Solovyov-Utkin no longer surprises.
    2. sergo1914 April 28 2020 09: 44 New
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      Quote: nikvic46
      After Soloviev and Utkin publicly talked to each other, they need to wash their mouth with soap and water. This is not a polemic, but a conversation between two bazaar women.

      Both are standing each other. From a human point of view, both are still ... A dull snickering slime of power collided with a degraded, deserted person. But in this skirmish, Vasya did Nightingale. Uasya is an evil, but smart and well-read troll. Nightingale in response - only about the physical shortcomings of the opponent. In a verbal duel, Vasya won by knockout.
  • Pvi1206 April 28 2020 08: 26 New
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    they are worthy of each other ... two boots - a pair ...
  • 30143 April 28 2020 08: 37 New
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    I didn’t read the petition, but Solovyov looked to understand the processes in the pro-government elite not only in the evening, but also in the morning on Vesti FM. I can say that for 5 years, Solovyov began to bear. He beguiled the coast. And scum already calls not only Ukrainians, but also the Crimea and some Russians. When people answer him the same, he begins to threaten that "... we will find you by phone!"
    Diagnosis - dizziness from success ...
    And the Russians decide whether to watch it or not themselves
  • Maks1995 April 28 2020 09: 01 New
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    Again, all the glamor of the shore beguiled ....
    And they will not be anything for it ... alas ....
  • Kalmar April 28 2020 09: 06 New
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    All petition platforms that have gained popularity in Russia have foreign roots

    Again, these nonsense about the foreign roots of something there ... "Developed in the West", "servers are located in America" ​​... Damn, well, at least read books about how the Internet works and works in general. It may be possible to realize how the platform differs from the content posted on it.

    PS And the author, I think, wrote this article on a computer assembled in China and running Windows (developed in the USA). Which, in general, gives reason to believe that the article was ordered by either Chinese or American intelligence agencies.

    Skillfully using the Change.org platform, by the way, according to its own rules, one can easily discredit, under the sauce of “popular opinion”, both individuals and entire legislative initiatives and the states themselves. And domestic pro-Western fighters of a near-political clearing quickly realized this. The platform is just a daily celebration of the fighter with the "bloody regime."

    An old fairy tale about how everything is fine with us, and all the "dissatisfied" are just pro-Western insurgents, carefully rocking the boat, unbending clips and shaky foundations. Really so far the new edition of the training manual did not work out? Longing.

    In general, the scheme is banal and flat, like a fence. We place the petition, we build the bridges we need with a company that is ready to provide their services for its promotion, the number of “Russian citizens” who supported the petition is growing by leaps and bounds, and finally the media are coming out

    It's funny that our beloved state, in fact, does everything exactly the same. Look at least Tereshkova with her thousands of letters from "ordinary citizens" who are eager for the presidential nullification. The difference, of course, is in the budgets, as well as in the fact that Change.org is only trying to form some kind of public opinion, and the state simply imposes its will in a notification order, covering it with a fig leaflet of "popular support".
    1. Tank hard April 28 2020 09: 18 New
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      Quote: Kalmar
      Again, these nonsense about the foreign roots of something there ... "Developed in the West", "servers are located in America" ​​... Damn, well, at least read books about how the Internet works and works in general. It may be possible to realize how the platform differs from the content hosted on it.

      And you tell me a stupid with examples, how is it and what? And the fact that such "platforms" are used to pressure certain forces against other forces (and even intrusively extort money from users) - in this particular the author is right.
      1. Kalmar April 28 2020 09: 34 New
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        Quote: Tank Hard
        And the fact that such "platforms" are used for pressure by certain forces

        The platform only makes it possible to express some aggregated opinion, nothing more. No need to demonize it, otherwise we’ll quickly come to the conclusion that certain forces use the Russian language for pressure — will we also puff on it?

        The next point is what is Change.org specifically pushing for? This is not a ROI, the petitions of the changelog have no legal force; in fact, they are purely informative in nature, and with a rather small audience reach: does the people read a lot of people? The author of the article, apparently, really wanted to fight with windmills.

        Finally, what is the percentage of engaged petitions on the changelog? Half? Third? Did someone check, look for beneficiaries and customers? Or is everything as usual: since it’s dissatisfied with something, then, in any case, a mercenary of the State Department?
        1. Tank hard April 28 2020 09: 39 New
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          Quote: Kalmar
          The next point is what is Change.org specifically pushing for? This is not a ROI, the petitions of the changelog have no legal force; in fact, they are purely informative in nature, and with a rather small audience reach: does the people read a lot of people?

          And it all starts small.
          Quote: Kalmar
          No need to demonize it, otherwise we’ll quickly come to the conclusion that certain forces use the Russian language for pressure — will we also puff on it?

          Let's stop "demonizing" everyone, NATO, Soros, others ... Let us dissolve the army and open the borders. After all, the "angels" are around. wink
          1. Kalmar April 28 2020 09: 46 New
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            Quote: Tank Hard
            And it all starts small.

            Quote: Tank Hard
            Let's stop "demonizing" everyone, NATO, Soros, others ...

            I hope you realize that this is already a demagogy from the series "Today you play jazz, and tomorrow you will sell your homeland!"? And perhaps it makes sense to try to stop seeing in every dissatisfied enemy of the people and agent of imperialism?
            1. Tank hard April 28 2020 11: 35 New
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              Quote: Kalmar
              I hope you realize that this is already a demagogy from the series "Today you play jazz, and tomorrow you will sell your homeland!"? And perhaps it makes sense to try to stop seeing in every dissatisfied enemy of the people and agent of imperialism?

              What you wrote is this very demagogy. laughing
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          for April 28 2020 19: 13 New
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          Quote: Kalmar
          and with a rather small audience reach: a lot of people generally read the changelog

          I am sure that 99.9% did not know about its coexistence. This is how hidden advertising is done.
    2. vargo April 28 2020 09: 48 New
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      Damn, well, at least read books about how in general the Internet is arranged and works. It may be possible to realize how the platform differs from the content posted on it.

      There it is written in black and white on the site to whom everything belongs, they don’t hide it, just try to understand how everything works and I think everyone will understand. And if you are so knowledgeable on the Internet, I think it will not be difficult to understand that email as a form of identification of a person is nonsense. There, without links with the management of the site, cheating is easy. Of course, the site is very well connected with the United States, and 90% of the petitions there are about Russia, look, almost nobody needs this site in the United States or Britain. And please do not say that there are no people in the United States who want to create a petition on their pressing problems. I will not believe.
      You protect the site only because you consider it the only mouthpiece against the government, as I think, but this, in my opinion, is like "going after a bandit just not for power." This is also impossible.
      1. Kalmar April 28 2020 10: 02 New
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        Quote: vargo
        And if you are so knowledgeable on the Internet, I think it will not be difficult to understand that email as a form of identification of a person is nonsense.

        But they do not aim to identify someone, because, I repeat, change does not have any legal force. All of his signatures are functionally not much different from likes on YouTube or pluses on this site. Everything else is already the nuances of perception.

        Quote: vargo
        90% of the petitions there are about Russia, look, almost nobody needs this site in the USA or Britain

        According to their own report, the number of registered users in Britain and the USA is much larger than in Russia. Where did you get these 90% - I don’t know for sure.

        Quote: vargo
        You protect the site only because you consider it the only mouthpiece against the government

        Firstly, I do not defend him, I do not take him seriously at all (to the question of the effectiveness of "pressure" on anyone).

        Secondly, I do not consider him any mouthpiece against anything. Another platform where people can share their invaluable opinion (again, it is not much different from this resource).

        Thirdly, if any demand or dissatisfaction with you immediately falls into the category “against power”, then this is the nuance of perception (of yours) mentioned above. Please do not project it on me.
        1. vargo April 28 2020 10: 12 New
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          According to their own report, the number of registered users in Britain and the USA is much larger than in Russia. Where did you get these 90% - I don’t know for sure.

          Everything is simple, it’s enough not to look at reports, but to go through the site and look for petitions from other countries. I was very surprised when petitions against the moments in Russia prevailed in the USA, saying that we see bad things in Russia and we are against it.

          But they do not aim to identify someone, because, I repeat, change does not have any legal force. All of his signatures are functionally not much different from likes on YouTube or pluses on this site. Everything else is already the nuances of perception.


          Everything is so, only he is no longer positioned as likes under a faceless post on the social network, but as a kind of petition, and the informational meaning of such a petition is precisely to make a person perceive voices as real, and not as something frivolous. The thing is how this site appears to the masses. These votes are akin to an interest forum, but they are not positioned like that. I think the opinion can be perfectly shared on platforms for opinions, rather than “for petitions,” where the opinion begins with the words “I like / dislike” and not with the phrase “We demand” (on behalf of the masses). Yet opinion is a personal form of expression, not a group of vague individuals. I think you understand what I'm getting at.
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            Quote: vargo
            It's simple, it’s enough not to look at reports, but to go through the site and look for petitions from other countries

            Those. 90% is not a specific indicator, but your personal feelings based on a cursory inspection of the resource? Well, it’s like that

            Quote: vargo
            I was very surprised when petitions against the moments in Russia prevailed in the USA

            Maybe add specifics? A cursory examination of the latest and most popular petitions did not reveal an influx of "anti-Russian" initiatives.

            Quote: vargo
            The thing is how this site appears to the masses

            And how does he appear? In my experience, most of the masses about him do not even know. Of those who are in the know, units take him seriously. I am not among them.

            Quote: vargo
            I think the opinion can be perfectly shared on platforms for opinions, rather than “for petitions,” where the opinion begins with the words “I like / dislike” and not with the phrase “We demand” (on behalf of the masses).

            And if the opinion is in the demand, why not? Does a citizen have the right to demand something from the government? It has, because we have neither an absolute monarch, nor serfdom (de jure, at least).

            Quote: vargo
            Yet opinion is a personal form of expression, not a group of vague individuals.

            The principle of "divide and conquer," I understand. The worst nightmare for our authorities is if suddenly the citizens begin to express their dissatisfaction not personally (each separately in their kitchen), but somehow, in bulk))
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              Quote: Kalmar
              Those. 90% is not a specific indicator, but your personal feelings based on a cursory inspection of the resource? Well, it’s like that

              Quote: Kalmar
              Maybe add specifics? A cursory examination of the latest and most popular petitions did not reveal an influx of "anti-Russian" initiatives.

              Quote: Kalmar
              And if the opinion is in the demand, why not? Does a citizen have the right to demand something from the government? It has, because we have neither an absolute monarch, nor serfdom (de jure, at least)

              Quote: Kalmar
              The principle of "divide and conquer," I understand. The worst nightmare for our authorities is if suddenly the citizens begin to express their dissatisfaction not personally (each separately in their kitchen), but somehow, in bulk))

              All this written is the very demagogy in which you blame others. laughing
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                Quote: Tank Hard
                All this written is the very demagogy in which you blame others

                Are you sure you know what demagoguery is?
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    I checked this desk a long time ago. Everything is sewn with white thread. It is clear as day that the office for manipulating opinion at the direction of a certain circle of persons. As an IT specialist, I look with laughter at the registration form where email is the only one you can spawn without having to bother too much. But what else is important. I also tried to look for petitions from other countries, the people of other states. And, lo and behold, what was discovered. 90% are petitions from Russia (+ a bit of the CIS) or against any activity in Russia. Well, straight surprising. Where did such an office from the USA get such popularity from here?) I think there are no comments here. For a long time, all who throw links to change.org send me first to learn how to check where they are sending people.
  • Li17 April 28 2020 09: 49 New
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    You have found a worthy subject to follow.

    confuse the situation with prostitution ... By the way, this in our direction just comes from Svidomo just because we are ..... Good and high quality, and the culture of human behavior does not depend on the system. Mr. Soloviev and Mrs. Skabeeva show the manner of conduct and behavior of the level of street showdowns!
  • Alexga April 28 2020 10: 00 New
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    Yes, all these speeches on this site mean absolutely nothing, the main thing is this:
    direct signers only require an email address, first and last name

    database for advertising. And this is money. Everything is simple, just business.
  • New Year day April 28 2020 10: 01 New
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    who absolutely ignore the opinions of the other 140 million

    the author wants to convince that 140 million can’t live without garbage from Solovyov? It is necessary to be objective "East wind". Whoever sows the wind will reap the storm.
    "Pravdoruby" from behind the hill already tired, honestly ... Their task is simple, to make people obedient donkeys
  • veritas April 28 2020 10: 06 New
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    Personally, Solovyov is extremely unpleasant to me. The man who "carries" Europe and the United States, despite the fact that he himself has a residence permit and real estate in Europe. This is a vivid indicator of hypocrisy. Despite the fact that he is extremely rude and arrogant in communication with his audience. And when he interviewed Putin, he did not ask a single serious question, which suggests that he is just a propagandist who works for money and if they give more, he will change hands instantly.
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    Koftun strikes back.
  • sergo April 28 2020 10: 47 New
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    It seems that the author is no longer even the wind, but a hurricane in his head.
  • Roman123567 April 28 2020 11: 04 New
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    Recall that the dispute between the two media personnel began with the fact that Utkin accused the Russian government of insufficient assistance to the country's citizens in connection with the coronavirus epidemic. In response, Solovyov called the sports commentator insane, who “does not need Russia,” and also threatened that he would jump and hit him on the head.

    It seems to be immediately obvious who is normal and who is the Kremlin litter ..
  • Undecim April 28 2020 11: 04 New
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    Is there really nothing more to write about on the thematic site "Military Review" in Russia, how about a squabble of two some Chaldeans from the media and then vigorously discuss which of them is the most unclean monster?
    1. Pane Kohanku April 28 2020 12: 10 New
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      how about a squabble of some two Chaldeans from the media and then vigorously discuss which of them is the most unclean monster?

      It's a little deeper here, Viktor Nikolaevich ...
      I will try to express my own opinion with full respect to the participants and to the administration. hi
      Skillfully using the Change.org platform, by the way, according to its own rules, one can easily discredit, under the sauce of “popular opinion”, both individuals and entire legislative initiatives and the states themselves. And domestic pro-Western fighters of a near-political clearing quickly realized this. The platform is just a daily celebration of the fighter with the "bloody regime."

      The author calls not to trust platforms with petitions.
      As a person far from politics, I try not to get involved with it. The question is that sometimes this same "policy" itself comes to you for discussion. In the face of your friends and acquaintances.
      The other day on the site "Military Review" was published two materials on the state of domestic medicine.
      Specifically, colleagues:
      https://topwar.ru/170418-optimizacija-unichtozhenie-mediciny.html
      и
      https://topwar.ru/170616-my-zhivem-ne-v-sssr-dejanija-optimizatorov.html
      and at the same time I recommend this:
      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C4FABEJL1hs

      If people write this - this is not a call, this is a SCREAM for help. Moreover, it is written that dear people, and not some left Chaldeans, and equated to them.
      If they fail to draw attention to themselves, what should they do? What are the opportunities in our country to express and promote our requests? None. "You are the boss - I’m a dunduk", a system of relationships inherited from imperial times.
      Naturally, I think they will not deal with petitions. Not their way. This is my personal opinion.
      But if they did - it even attracted a bit of attention to themas an indicator. This is the whole value of such an expression. ..... The question is that in our country, such indicators do not give a damn to everyone at the top ...
      And about the Chaldeans - you are right. It would be better if such money was spent on Good Doctors!
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        Colleagues, I completely agree with you. good
        And about the Chaldeans - you are right.

        Any campaigning in the media has long been a "foul smell."
        1. Pane Kohanku April 28 2020 16: 08 New
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          Any campaigning in the media has long been a "foul smell."

          Alexey, I agree!
          And then our "propagandists" have a chance to get completely confused! stop and they’re also paid a salary ...
          https://topwar.ru/170675-na-prizyv-dmitrija-kiseleva-stavit-pamjatniki-krasnovu-otreagiroval-konstantin-semin.html
          и
          https://www.gazeta.ru/social/news/2020/04/27/n_14348443.shtml
          Yes, albeit abstract, but Krasnov sounded ... request Well, it remains to put Pannvitsa and Skuro. You can immediately order an icon! no (it seems that there have already been some slurred attempts to erect a monument to Hitler's Cossacks).
          In such a "strange" time, for some reason, I begin to increasingly respect the monuments to Lenin. Apparently, age! laughing
          1. Lexus April 28 2020 16: 30 New
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            Fools only know how to play cards with “images” and checkers with “monuments”. They are not capable of anything other than, of course, “cutting” and theft.
            https://topwar.ru/170658-shkola-na-distancii-novye-realii-srednego-obrazovanija.html#comment-id-10372983
            In such a "strange" time, for some reason, I begin to increasingly respect the monuments to Lenin. Apparently, age!

            Reason and Wisdom wink. You can only beat shit with an empty head.
  • iouris April 28 2020 12: 27 New
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    Let everyone do their own thing. Utkin - the information war in sports, Solovyov - the information war in all areas. The viewer's business is to switch on time. The television is a great invention: clicked on a button and turns off.
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      I don’t know Utkina; the nightingale is a creature.
  • Radikal April 28 2020 13: 15 New
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    The scandal erupting on the Internet around the abuse between Vasily Utkin and Vladimir Solovyov continues to gain momentum.

    Two "characters" that stand each other. There is nothing more to discuss here. sad
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      Quote: Radikal
      The scandal erupting on the Internet around the abuse between Vasily Utkin and Vladimir Solovyov continues to gain momentum.

      Two "characters" that stand each other. There is nothing more to discuss here. sad

      I, too, am surprised by all this hype that suddenly started ... Yes, let them even fight, they just want to hold some kind of action in the information war from this .. I watch sometimes, but more often I can’t stand it, that Solovyov and even more so this Utkin who he is and who it costs .. Two mongrel from different trenches. And EVERYTHING!
      PS Soloviev, Pozner, Urgant, Kiselev and others. All of them are from one gang .. I want new faces and new opinions !!!!!
  • NordUral April 28 2020 15: 04 New
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    Against the nightingale by anyone (but that does not mean that I always support it, the principle of denial works here) I agree and sign it. Harmless creatures are hard to find in this panopticon of pro-talkers!
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  • strelokmira April 28 2020 18: 38 New
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    Yes, the author of the petition, comments and forbid everything, otherwise they dared to write objectionable laughing
  • skobars April 28 2020 19: 21 New
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    Explain to me at last why I should not treat Solovyov normally. I have one claim to him - a residence permit in Italy. I often watch his programs and I like him. Yes, it leads aggressively to the enemies of Russia, well, it is necessary. The ass does not lick power like Kissel, well, the truth and the current economic issues of Russia is trying not to cover. But he always says that economic policy inside Russia must urgently be changed towards justice. In general, the right man. And behind Donbass is always a wall.
  • awdrgy April 28 2020 19: 30 New
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    I do not know who Utkin is (but apparently not a pleasant person) Solovyov is like Sechin. This is suspicious.
    - And by the way, your neighbor is being taken away,
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    Because he looks like Beria!)))
  • KARAKURT15 April 28 2020 20: 11 New
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    The nightingale has earned itself what awaits him in the near future!
  • 1536 April 28 2020 21: 00 New
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    As the great Soviet sports commentator Nikolai Ozerov said: “We don’t need such a hockey!”
  • Igor Aviator April 28 2020 21: 52 New
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    Oh, how the Libero-State Department garbage has wandered! Shit and flooded! So, hurt - all of them Solovyov for the "living"! Work, Vladimir Rudolfovich! Work, dear, burn this evil! I support!
  • Igor Aviator April 28 2020 22: 08 New
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    Quote: Kalmar
    "Today you play jazz, and tomorrow you will sell your homeland!"

    By the way, yes! The most notorious anti-Soviet leaders in the generation of the 60s, for some reason, were ardent fans of jazz, the so-called "creative intelligentsia." One Bulat Okudzhava, ... what is it! You will be surprised, but the propaganda of jazz (as one of the elements of the "American way of life") in the USSR, the CIA (and Kissinger personally) played a significant role. Seeing this as a serious component in the ideological confrontation. After all, the most effective way to deal with the enemy is to raise his children according to his own understanding. It all started with "harmless" jazz and chewing gums with jeans. By the way, I remember the sensational article in "Komsomolskaya Pravda" - "Blue Bird Stew." I was 19 at that time, and I fully supported the author of the article! I still felt Makarevich’s rotten inside! And looking back, I am satisfied that I was not mistaken in my feelings. I distinguish the enemy from a friend at the level of instinct!
  • Servisinzhener April 28 2020 22: 08 New
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    I wonder how it turns out. Judging by the indignant comments, everything very often negatively relates to Solovyov. And of course no one is watching it. But at the same time in the course of all his statements and events on the programs. Maybe you should turn off the TV when it begins to transmit. You look and your nerves will be calmer.