Syria accuses Israel of striking from Lebanese airspace

Syria has once again received reports of an “unknown aircraft” strike in the metropolitan province of Damascus. Al-Ihbaria TV Channel reports a strike from Lebanese airspace.

This gave rise to Syrian journalists in the affirmative form to say that the blow was dealt by the Israeli military aviation. It is the Israeli Air Force aircraft that use Lebanese airspace for missile and bomb attacks on the territory of the Syrian Arab Republic.

From the report:

Syria's air defense calculations managed to bring down several fired missiles. The shelling took place around 5:00.

According to some reports, targets for missiles have again become objects that Israel calls belonging to pro-Iranian armed groups. First of all, we are talking about Hezbollah.

Syrian information sources claim that several aircraft missiles reached their goals. In particular, there is a hit in one of the warehouses located south of Damascus.

The Syrian military command confirms the strike by "unknown aircraft". The Israeli Defense Ministry does not comment on the information.

It must be recalled that a few days ago information was confirmed about the transfer of a pair of fifth-generation American fighters to one of the air bases in Jordan. The Pentagon said that these aircraft "will be able to prevent an attack on objects controlled by the US military in Syria."

Comments

[Ros 56]

It is necessary for Lebanon to put an ultimatum, or a ban on attacks by Jewish aircraft in Syria from their airspace or an attack on these aircraft with missiles and responsibility for possible harm to residents lies with the Lebanese government. Stop playing toys.

[military_cat]

Quote: Ros 56

Stop playing toys.

It seems so to you. And those who play toys will continue to play them as usual.

[Aaron Zawi]

You are angry. We with the SAR air defense are just joint exercises. We provide them with targets.

[Pereira]

In this case, we are waiting for the Syrians to learn.
I hope when this moment comes, will you rejoice with us?

[Aaron Zawi]

Quote: Pereira

In this case, we are waiting for the Syrians to learn.
I hope when this moment comes, will you rejoice with us?

By itself.

[knn54]

Aron. We provide (i.e., free of charge) and Israel incompatible things,

[Vitaly gusin]

Quote: Pereira

Will you rejoice with us?

The Saudi A-Arab network claims that the attacks were carried out on high-ranking Iranian military and carried out with the approval of Moscow.
The attack began at 5 a.m. on April 27. Israeli aircraft fired several missiles at the military complex used to store weapons. As a result of the attack on the complex, a series of loud explosions was heard.
The media publish new details of Israeli attacks in the Damascus area.
The attacks were carried out on a cargo with modern weapons, which was recently received by pro-Iranian police.
The Arab network of al-Jadid al-Arabi reports that powerful explosions were heard in the area of ​​the Jarman quarter and military facilities were attacked in al-Mazda, Damascus and Saida Reinab International Airport, 21 people were killed as a result of the attacks, including a senior Iranian officer. It is also reported that despite claims by the regime that its air defense systems “destroyed enemy targets,” Israeli missiles hit the target precisely.
Will you rejoice with us?

[sivuch]

http://otvaga2004.mybb.ru/viewtopic.php?id=2265&p=19
judging by the photographs, there were no secondary explosions

[Vitaly gusin]

Quote: sivuch

judging by the photographs, there were no secondary explosions

Opened, went on and found the following:
Agency SANA publishes photographs of what he claims to be the result of the devastation caused by Israeli bombing in the Hajir area adjacent to the Sayyid Zaynab area, southeast of # Damascus.
Note: The agency itself has confirmed interception of all blows Israel

But this message is real:
After attacks in Syria, Israel is deploying the Iron Dome.
IDF, anticipating possible retaliatory attacks Iranians, in response to the damage, takes precautionary measures, including deploying Iron Dome missile defense batteries in threatened areas.
This is not always done, but only in serious cases.

[sivuch]

That's it . This is the first reliable report after the attack itself. Do not consider all sorts of al-Arabia as such. Because it is possible to quote also such:
Russian and Israeli EW clashed in the sky over Damascus
The SANA news agency reports an attack on Damascus on April 27, which ended in failure for Israel. But the most interesting thing was in the missiles used by Israeli fighters. Russian electronic warfare systems managed to “drop” two upgraded Delilah cruise missiles, which are capable of radio-suppressing enemy air defense radars.
The main objective of these missiles was to knock down missiles launched by the Shell-S and Buk systems, which are on the defensive of Damascus, disrupting the radar, thereby allowing the rest of the missiles to pass unhindered to the targets.
But Damascus, in addition to air defense systems, also protects the Krasukha electronic warfare systems, which played a decisive role in defense. Apparently, the electronics of the Delilah cruise missiles were damaged by Russian electronic warfare and the missiles simply fell, failing to fulfill their mission. All missiles launched, except two, were shot down by air defense, and the remaining missiles did not reach the goal due to disruption of operation, falling a kilometer from important objects.
We will believe too?
Or here it is - SANA Correspondent: 3 civilians were killed and 4 injured as a result of the falling fragments of Israeli rockets at home in the areas of Al-Hajir and Al-Adliya in Damascus.
In principle, it is also possible

[Vitaly gusin]

Quote: sivuch

Or here it is - SANA Correspondent: 3

"Some believe in Mohammed, some in Allah, some in Jesus,"
I personally believe this time the Arab media, very soon we will see satellite images.
"Defense Minister Naftali Bennett said that Israel intends to do away with with an Iranian presence in Syria.
According to Bennett, the Israeli military will attack the Iranian forces in Syria until they leave the country. It is reported by The Times Of Israel.
Bennett's statement came a few days after the next Israeli air strike on Iranian military installations in the suburbs of Damascus.
“We have gone from trying to prevent the concealment of Iran’s military facilities in Syria to crowding it out, and we will not stop... We will not allow the growth of strategic threats at our border, ”Bennett said.
And it turns out.
And you, you can believe the Syrian propaganda, which received a master class from kissel TV.

[sivuch]

Benet needs to grind less with his tongue. He has not yet shown 6 air defense batteries destroyed

[Vitaly gusin]

Quote: sivuch

Benet needs to grind less with his tongue

Well, it’s hard to argue with that, but he’s a politician and it obliges him to speak, otherwise they will forget him, it’s also practiced with you.
Well, you are mistaken with the rest. Iran is not needed in Syria and Putin, and in this both Russia and Israel have a mutual understanding, which we see.
And all the dances with songs around, in modern Russian, these are called PONTS.

Quote: sivuch

He has not yet shown 6 air defense batteries destroyed

This is not a theater that everything needs to be shown. And no one has proven that this is Israel, it is quite possible that this is the Liechtenstein Air Force.

[sivuch]

They simply were not there, these 6 destroyed batteries. It seemed to me that this is understandable to anyone who is even a little versed in technology (Adon Bennett, of course, is not obliged to understand).

[Vitaly gusin]

Quote: sivuch

They simply were not there, these 6 destroyed batteries

I did not write about 6 batteries
But there is enough information in the Russian media.
The purpose of the retaliatory strike of the Israeli Air Force was weapons depots, headquarters, bases and other military installations. At the same time, Syrian air defense tried to repel the attack and fired at Israeli air force planes. Concerning, several Syrian air defense batteries were destroyed.
https://topcor.ru/11996-izrail-nanes-massirovannyj-udar-po-sirii-unichtozheny-batarei-pvo.html?utm_source=warfiles.ru

Israel bombed a Syrian air defense battery near Damascus
Read more at RBC:
https://www.rbc.ru/politics/16/10/2017/59e480639a794742ef6d1ea6

During the attack, the Syrian air defense tried to shell Israeli aircraft, but the IDF destroyed the air forces several batteries of Syrian air defense.
https://gordonua.com/news/worldnews/armiya-oborony-izrailya-atakovala-iranskie-voennye-obekty-v-sirii-1440645.html
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[sivuch]

So I did not say that you. It was Bennett who first blurted out, and only then other trepachki. Here at VO the well-known pan professor also assured that not today or tomorrow pictures will appear.
Do you even understand that a few air defense batteries are just ridiculous? At least because the battery composition is different for each air defense system. For air defense missile systems, for example, these are 4 BM, 2 TZM and 1 PU. And for the battery to be considered destroyed, you need to kill all 4 BM.
Even if it were limited to one battery, then the pictures would have appeared in a couple of days. The only assumption that could somehow reconcile Bennett’s claims with reality is that he was informed about the neutralization of 6 batteries, and he understood this as physical destruction.

[Vitaly gusin]

Quote: sivuch

that he was informed about the neutralization of 6 batteries, and he understood this as physical destruction.

These are nuances
FLYING FLIES AND WILL FLY
DESTROY AND DESTROY AND WILL DESTROY
Until Xer and Hizbullah get out of SYRIA Putin dreams about the same

[Vitaly gusin]

Your request has been answered

The photographs show the headquarters and an underground structure destroyed on the morning of April 27 on the territory of the Al-Maze military airfield, south-west of Damascus. It is noted that this headquarters was already the target of the attack in the fall of 2019, it was subsequently restored, on that day, missile strikes were also carried out on targets in the areas of the settlements of Al-Sayda Zainab, Sakhnaya, Al-Kisua, Al-Adlaya, Al-Hajira. Hits and secondary explosions were recorded, caused by the detonation of explosives in warehouses. As a result of these airstrikes, at least seven people were killed: in the area of ​​Al-Kisua and Sakhnayi, four militants were killed, possibly commanders of pro-Iranian formations or Hezbollah

[Navat]

"Israeli," I say, "the military
Known to the whole world!
Like a mother, I say, and like a woman
I demand them to answer!

Which year I am a widow
All happiness is past
But I stand ready
For the cause of peace!
As a mother I declare to you and as a woman! .. "

[Deniska999]

Well and further? Syria has no leverage.

[antivirus]

I'm not interested in the Lebanese ultimatum, but in the closure of our (and union) markets for amers in response to a possible ban on the export of nuclear fuel.
will there be symmetry?

[Tatyana]

Quote: antivirus

I'm not interested in the Lebanese ultimatum, but in the closure of our (and union) markets for amers in response to a possible ban on the export of nuclear fuel.
will there be symmetry?

Our government with its financial and economic bloc headed by Nabiulina in the Central Bank of Russia to ban Russia from exporting nuclear fuel to the United States will not be able to do this for a long time. To say the least, it will, in principle, not be able to do it from the word "AT ALL"! Not the same capitalists in Russia!
Russia sorely lacks even a national capitalist "elite" - only comprador capitalists.

[businessv]

Quote: Tatiana

Russia sorely lacks even a national capitalist "elite" - only comprador capitalists.

In Russia, there should not be a national capitalist elite for another three generations, and it takes so long for traditions to take shape. But I think that those who are now in power and with resources do not pull on this word. To do this, the psychology of patriotism and social responsibility must be laid in the head, for which a national idea must take place, which will be aimed specifically at social justice, and not at covering and excluding from responsibility thieves and crooks who saw the budget and withdraw money over the hill, where their families live! So it happens with us!

[Tatyana]

Quote: businessv (Vadim)
In Russia, there should not be a national capitalist elite for another three generations, and it takes so long for traditions to take shape. But I think that those who are now in power and with resources do not pull on this word.

Unfortunately, the capitalist to the capitalist - discord! And modern capitalist Russia is far from in a better position.
Therefore, it is not yet necessary to count on the government’s ban on exporting nuclear fuel to the United States - and it is not yet known whether it will have to in the future!

What is the difference between the comprador bourgeoisie and the national? What actions of various sorts of the bourgeoisie benefit the working class, and which do not?
In 2016, Popov Mikhail Vasilievich, Doctor of Philosophy, Professor, President of the Fund of the Working Academy answers these questions. But his answers are not outdated even now.

About the varieties of capitalists. Professor Popov. • 2 oct. 2016 year

[vadim dok]

Since January 2020, the Russian Federation has put at least 4,0 tons of gold in US banks, here’s the answer! Moreover, they put it at a price of about $ 1400 an ounce, and now gold costs more than $ 1700 an ounce, a loss of more than $ 200 an ounce! Financiers!

[Comrade Michael]

Will not be. On the contrary, counter-sanctions want to weaken ...

[businessv]

Quote: Comrade Mikhail

It will not.

So I did not say what would happen! He said it should be.

[Pheasant]

SAR can not put any ultimatums to Lebanon. For the SAR, Lebanon is the only window to the world, and the only source of foreign currency in the country.

[atalef]

Quote: Pheasant

SAR can not put any ultimatums to Lebanon. For the SAR, Lebanon is the only window to the world, and the only source of foreign currency in the country.

Come on - Lebanon is a bankrupt state and it is ruled by a Hezbollah.
Could bring down - would bring down over Lebanon

[atalef]

Quote: Ros 56

It is necessary for Lebanon to put an ultimatum, or a ban on attacks by Jewish aircraft in Syria from their airspace or an attack on these aircraft with missiles and responsibility for possible harm to residents lies with the Lebanese government. Stop playing toys.

Who should set this condition for him, taking into account the fact that hezbollah rules in Lebanon?

[Ros 56]

Strongly said, Hezbollah rules Lebanon and Israeli missiles from Israeli planes are fired from its territory. Conclusion: Israel and Hezbollah brothers forever?
Alexander, so even Kovtun does not lie.

[borberd]

It is precisely because Hezbollah is running the Lebanon, which is why the peace treaty with Israel has not been signed so far, and the state of war remains. Although the Lebanese received proposals for a peace treaty more than once, and even intended to sign it, but ... the Syrians who had occupied Lebanon killed the then president of this country - Gemayel. And the Iranians strengthened the Hezbollah and all subsequent governments were controlled either by Hezbollahs or their allies.

[businessv]

Quote: Ros 56

It is necessary for Lebanon to put an ultimatum, or a ban on attacks by Jewish aircraft in Syria from their airspace or an attack on these aircraft with missiles and responsibility for possible harm to residents lies with the Lebanese government

Who exactly in this mess put ultimatums? Haftaru? Saraju? No one is responsible for and does not undertake anything. What mattresses, nothing was muddied there to create an exemplary country ?! While they are there, nothing decent can be by definition!

[Ros 56]

Dear, buy a card and see where Lebanon and where Libya. And from what side is Haftar together with Saraj?

[businessv]

Quote: Ros 56

Dear, buy a card and see where Lebanon and where Libya

Just do not poke! I apologize to everyone, inattentively read on his own wave.

[Tzar]

This music will be eternal. Well, or until you decide to land a couple of bandits.

[Victor_B]

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[tihonmarine]

Quote: Victor_B

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[atalef]

Quote: Victor_B

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Unanimously, how did it help?

[Stalllker]

They must be landed in Lebanon, and who will do it ?!

[Tzar]

As an option - the conclusion of an agreement on the protection of the Lebanese sky of Syrian air defense (by analogy with the protection of the Baltic sky by NATO countries). But this requires the consent of Lebanon itself and the determination to play big with Syria itself and its allies.

[Roman1970_1]

determination to play big for Syria itself

Syria itself plays big.
Funny.
For Syria, the largest of these is the barmaley in jeeps to lose. Despite the fact that there was some kind of aviation.

[Tzar]

Jeeps have not lost the barmaley for a long time, since 2016, with the exception of cases of jeeps attacking reservists under the cover of a dust storm. Or under the cover of Israeli and American air attacks, this also happened.

[Roman1970_1]

Jeeps haven’t lost the Jeeps for a long time, since 2016,

The conversation was about Syria itself.
From the word itself. And she herself would already cease to exist under the leadership of Assad. Yes, now Syria itself will not defeat barmaley in jeeps

[Tzar]

Quote: Roman1970_1

Yes, now Syria itself will not defeat barmaley in jeeps

Now - she will win. Jeep barmalei remained only in the desert (now it seems that hunting had begun on them) and at-Tanf. In Idlib, they were no longer in jeeps, but in Turkish armored cars and with Turkish weapons, but they could be defeated, only with heavy losses.

[borberd]

Quote: Tzar

Jeeps have not lost the barmaley for a long time, since 2016, with the exception of cases of jeeps attacking reservists under the cover of a dust storm. Or under the cover of Israeli and American air attacks, this also happened.

They did not lose only because of the actions of the air forces, the Syrians themselves, even having aviation, were not able to use it.

[Stalllker]

As an option, send several groups with MANPADS to Lebanon, to the places of possible flight and meet them there on the ground behind the hills? If you wish, you could organize such groups, missiles from aircraft, develop a launcher for them, it would be even better than MANPADS

[Cyril G ...]

Let the Khusits ​​be asked for PU for the RVV R-27T and SU. Everything is transported on a pair of Gazelle vans

[Stalllker]

I don’t think there is anything complicated there, we could do it ourselves. I think our defense industry pores should ponder this topic for sabotage operations. Collapsible launcher for two missiles, missiles also collapsible. Remote control, so that after shooting they would not cover the calculation with return fire.

[sivuch]

That's just this option is probably long calculated

[Grits]

Quote: Tzar

As an option - the conclusion of an agreement on the protection of the Lebanese sky of the Syrian PV

And if Lebanon asks for such protection from Russia, then this will be a decline in the glory of the Jewish Air Force.

[Stalllker]

Our why this hemorrhoids will be refused

[atalef]

Quote: Gritsa

Quote: Tzar

As an option - the conclusion of an agreement on the protection of the Lebanese sky of the Syrian PV

And if Lebanon asks for such protection from Russia, then this will be a decline in the glory of the Jewish Air Force.

I wonder how Lebanon in this case differs from Syria?
Probably the fact that in Syria there are neither Russian troops, nor air defense and air forces.

[Grits]

Quote: atalef

I wonder how Lebanon in this case differs from Syria?

And the fact that our Syria is not particularly eager to defend the sky of Syria. Say, we didn’t agree so and are defending only our bases.
But if there would be a real agreement with Lebanon on the protection of the sky, everything is meticulously spelled out ...

[atalef]

Quote: Gritsa

But if there was a real contract

[Kronos]

They landed one a couple of years ago, the blows did not stop

[Stalllker]

Then, according to probability theory, at least one rocket should have come in)))

[Grits]

Quote: Tzar

Well, or until you decide to land a couple of bandits.

It is advisable that it is over Lebanon. So that the Jews switched to a pig screech. And the point of the gallant flyers of Israel was a little bench press.

[Grits]

Well, they haven’t shot down a Jewish plane yet, but the Jews have already launched an attack - they threw me cons from fear.

[A. Privalov]

The attacks were carried out at the weapons depots of pro-Iranian forces located south of Damascus. Hits and secondary explosions caused by detonation of explosives in warehouses were recorded.

[sivuch]

Source - Syrian opposition sources? Then it’s better - Information is being specified.

[A. Privalov]

It has long been known that before the Israeli attack on military bases in Syria, Hezbollah fighters are called by phone and asked to leave the facility before the operation begins.

Israel warns Hezbollah before launching attacks on terror targets and military bases, trying to avoid human casualties from Hezbollah.

For example, a drone strike on a jeep in which there was Mustafa Murniya (Mugniyah) - the youngest son of the late leader of the Hezbollah intelligence services Imad Mugniyah, and an officer in the Iranian Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps Imad Karimi. Two rockets were fired towards the car, only the second of them hit the target. The car was destroyed, but Murania and the officer who was with him managed to leave the car.
Representatives of the pro-Iranian regional alliance believe that the first missile was deliberately launched past the target in order to let people in the jeep leave it.

(April 23 New York Times article by Ben Hubbard and Ronen Bergman on the Israel-Hezbollah standoff)

[dzvero]

I understand that the east is a delicate matter, but here the pattern break and the slate cognitive dissonance are direct Is hesball still an Israeli child and you feel sorry for him?

[A. Privalov]

Quote: dzvero

I understand that the East is a delicate matter, but here the pattern break and the slate cognitive dissonance are straightforward Is it that the hesbola is still an Israeli child and you feel sorry for him?

Quote: Stalllker

Those apparently do not always pick up the phone, casualties among soldiers are not uncommon during such attacks

This is, first of all, a sign to Iran.
Israel attributed to many children, not to get used to.
The most stubborn do not listen to calls. Well, you won’t persuade everyone. Although, when some Hizbala commander receives a call where he is addressed by name and they say that after 20 minutes he will be banged, it works, I assure you. It is possible that he is washed off, but does not warn anyone he does not want. There, after all, the salary is divided into those who remained alive.
Israel and Gaza warning civilians of upcoming attacks.
So, dear dzvero (Ivo), apparently the time has come to change the template ideas about what is happening.

[dzvero]

Yes, the move is rather non-standard and, possibly, successful. Mental pressure in action ... Thanks for the info!

[A. Privalov]

Quote: dzvero

Thanks for the information!

You're welcome!

[Stalllker]

Those apparently do not always pick up the phone, casualties among soldiers are not uncommon during such attacks

[tihonmarine]

Quote: A. Privalov

It has long been known that before the Israeli attack on military bases in Syria, Hezbollah fighters are called by phone and asked to leave the facility before the operation begins.

Let them figure it out on their own, "east is east".

[gabonskijfront]

Such are the rules of the game, Israel is watering Hezbollah for the watering of that Israel. They probably warn our people, but this information does not go to Hezbollah’s side, everyone understands and agrees, otherwise this exquisite football would turn into a mess, which no one wants.

[A. Privalov]

Quote: gabonskijfront

Israel is watering Hezbollah for watering that Israel.

Bandyuki at our northern borders are quiet. Last time, Hezbollah climbed into Israel 14 years ago. Since then, its leader, Sheikh Nasrallah, does not stick his nose out of the bunker. All films with slogans for raising the spirit sends out and nothing more.

[surf dude]

Bombed a couple of Barmalean objects, Russia is clearly aware of what to strain then?

[prior]

Quote: gabonskijfront

Israel watering Hezbollah for watering that Israel

I tried to imagine Israel "soaked" by Hezbollah - it looks.

[sivuch]

Generally speaking, in Israel, every child, starting with the whale Daled (i.e., 4th grade), knows that the second Lebanese war was lost. But, NYA, all conclusions were made and the mistakes corrected.

[Krasnodar]

Quote: sivuch

Generally speaking, in Israel, every child, starting with the whale Daled (i.e., 4th grade), knows that the second Lebanese war was lost. But, NYA, all conclusions were made and the mistakes corrected.

Rather, from China, Yod Dalet (14th grade) or the second year of military service. Especially during the visits of the Alawite village, annexed to Israel during the Second Lebanon (the first 2 hours of the war, including 2 1/2 hour cleansing from Hezbollah fighters)

[sivuch]

Well, I don’t know, my son was then 12 years old and they already had conversations at school

[Krasnodar]

I also consider her very crookedly held. But the lost - no.

[bobwings]

Lost is a big word. Given that the border with Lebanon, the past 14 years is much calmer than 36 years before, and Nasrallah does not protrude from the bunker, we can say that the goals of the war have been achieved. And if they are achieved it means that the war is won. No one set a goal to seize Lebanon or destroy Hezbollah ....
It’s another matter what efforts and sacrifices were made, but conclusions were made here, the main ones being successfully applied - the Iron Dome and Trophy.

[sivuch]

.No one set a goal to seize Lebanon or destroy Hezbollah ....
Well, no one didn’t even set it up, but the public did not know this and expected (in my opinion, quite reasonably) the complete destruction of Hezbollah as a military-political organization, if possible together with the physical liquidation of Nasrallah himself. Even such a song appeared - yalla, yalla ... .im a hezbollah stake. And threats in the newspapers that the very mention of the name Nasrallah will be a signal for a corresponding urge from other terrorists.
As for the goals of war, this is called treatment worse than the disease. As far as I remember, as a result of the previous shelling, there were no victims, and the material damage was small.
And after this conflict there was everything - both human (including among the civilian population) and material and reputational.

[Krasnodar]

Shaw war was fought through the last section of the digestive tract. But ended with Israeli acquisitions.

[bobwings]

You never know what they wrote in the newspapers.
The army did not have a directive to destroy Hezbollah, but only to clean up the south of Lebanon, preferably before Litani, thereby receiving cards in hand to free the soldiers from captivity.

[sivuch]

Of course, now we can say that we were not going to. Moreover, the apartment broker, stock seller and florist themselves did not know what they wanted.
This is corny from the wiki
Approaches to resolving the conflict at the international level -
The United States expresses Israel’s position - a truce (ceasefire) is impossible without addressing the causes of the current conflict - Hezbollah must first be disarmed and expelled from the border with the participation of foreign peacekeepers, preferably under the auspices of NATO.
Disarmed and expelled?

[qobnvmog]

Quote: sivuch

Oh, well - no one put it? But the public did not know this and expected

And I authorized you to report for the entire "public". Not a grateful job for the entire Israeli "public" to speak out, even Bibi cannot do that.

[Mountain shooter]

It is very difficult to use air defenses from the territory of a neighboring country ... and the mountain range does not allow "blasting" bandits over the coast ... And the range ...

[bobwings]

For a bad dancer ....

[sivuch]

Do you need a good one? I'm not so

[Zeev Zeev]

And why use the airspace of Lebanon, if the southern suburbs of Damascus can be naughty from Israeli airspace? And the missile’s approach time is less, and there are no mountains on the route.

[Cyril G ...]

As an option, so that the hefty SAM missiles of long and medium range do not fly across Israel ...

[Zeev Zeev]

Already flew these missiles. And they were shot down on the road.

[Cyril G ...]

Not everything is taken away as I recall. However, am I wrong or what?

[Zeev Zeev]

Not all. But the majority. And the response was sawed by Assad’s air defense missile system

[Cyril G ...]

For all the time I saw only broken PU of two hundred and broken SNR. However IMHO you will not achieve anything with these injections.

[3danimal]

Of course, if the generous (not against the Russians) leadership of the Russian Federation will continue to pay for the supply of weapons.

[atalef]

Quote: Cyril G ...

As an option, so that the hefty SAM missiles of long and medium range do not fly across Israel ...

It seems that this is the only thing that prevents them

[Professor]

Syria's air defense calculations managed to bring down several fired missiles. The shelling took place around 5:00.

Syrian information sources claim that several aircraft missiles reached their goals. In particular, there is a hit in one of the warehouses located south of Damascus.

As always. "The air defense worked normally, but the guarded target was destroyed."

[sivuch]

Well, suppose there is no specific information yet, only from opposition sources. But, apparently, something was freaking out. I hope, not like last time - with expensive runways.

[Pvi1206]

Israel is bombing Syria ... the "world community" is deafly silent ... all the media belong to These ... I imagine what kind of gevalt will rise if Israel starts bombing "unknown" planes ...

[bobwings]

Yes, you're right, all the media belong to us, especially VO.
And we bought all the bath brooms just now ...

[indy424]

yeah. I'm going to have a drink with the Rockefellers and the Rothschilds

[bobwings]

When will they start? You promise everything, but promise.
It seems to me that the blasting will begin at the airfields from where these planes take off.

[demo]

I am not even embarrassed by the fact that Israel, regardless of what is happening in the world and in neighboring territories, continues to bend its line.
I am confused by something else.
In Syria, there are people who leaked information to Israel.
Moreover, these citizens are not ordinary inhabitants, but rather high-ranking officials.
Well, and where does the security service of Syria look.
Over the past 30 years, it was possible to identify and identify the perpetrators of all informed persons?
Reveal publicly with the removal of the head from the body.
You look and diminished mercenary accomplices.
And there let Israel from its territory look for a needle in a haystack.

All the same, the Arabs are completely noiseless.

[bobwings]

Well, Russia supplies the Old, it’s understandable. Iran and Hezbollah in the SAR of Russia have long been superfluous competitors, and they are squeezing them out with the hands of Israel. Otherwise, they would have intervened a long time ago, if not with missile launches, then at least totally suppressed the ether by means of the Reb, which have traditionally been strong in the VKS.

[demo]

Even to me, an amateur, one thing is clear.
Without Hezbollah and Iran, it will not be possible to cope with the "Turkish partners".
Otherwise, a direct military clash or retreat.
A retreat for Putin is to put an end to his future plans.
And so he has a situation - nowhere worse.
And a direct collision is even more hemorrhoids.
Therefore, he must protect and cherish his "allies".
The conclusion from here is that your attempt to lead the search in the other direction failed.
We are looking for the enemy (enemies) inside Assad’s environment.
And chop heads.
"Let's not shift responsibility from a" healthy "head to a" sick "one. (Dark joke)

[bobwings]

Cope with one of NATO’s strongest armies, the regular Turkish army, it will not work with Iran and its Hezbalon henchmen. These are not jihadists at the corners of guided bombs to burn out. The power option in Idlib is not a solution, you will have to agree on any one. There are too belligerent assistants from Ksir and Hezbollah, moreover, inciting the Syrians, this is only a burden. Islamic fanatics, no matter what denomination they belong to, whether Shiites or Sunnis, for Russia in the long run are not allies but enemies.

[demo]

First.
No one is talking about long-term alliance.
About matching goals, at the moment - yes.
Second.
Henchmen or not is a question.
The third.
Fanaticism is sometimes not even harm, but benefit.
Magnitogorsk and DneproGES, in principle, were built by fanatics.
And what is harmful or dangerous?
Fourth.
A bomb is basically the same as a jihadist, that a regular army soldier is burned.
And the last.
The presence in the territory of sovereign Syria of foreign contingents who were there not by invitation, but as a result of the intervention, does not imply any other option, except for force.
Regrettably, an armed conflict cannot be avoided.
Only Edik will give Allah the soul, or he will be put behind bars.
The guy bit a bite and does not see the banks.

[bobwings]

About Edik - Amen! It is high time for him to hell.
The Americans also once had situational allies in Afghanistan, how it ended everyone knows. Allies need to choose close in spirit and values.
Hezbollah's standard of concept is the henchman and the main destabilizing force in Lebanon. Under the Iranian tune, he holds the country in mittens, creating an imaginary image of Israel as Kashchei from fairy tales. If not for them, Lebanon would have long ago signed a peace with Israel, as Egypt and Jordan did, and soon the countries of the gulf will do as well. There are no territorial conflicts between Israel and Lebanon.
All this tension is fueled exclusively from Tehran. They are the main springboard against Israel, do not care about ordinary Lebanese.
The fanaticism of creation is far better than the fanaticism of destruction inherent in Islamic radicals, which are the Hezbalons and Ksir.
The army on the soldier whose bomb fell will not rave with foam at the mouth and scream Alahakbar, it will simply drop an even larger bomb on the enemy. Turkey has such opportunities, nobody needs Black tulips from Syria.
It is necessary to look at things pragmatically, Turkey is also a victim of circumstances. She cesspool like Idlib, in other conditions, it's like a hare's fifth leg. If a big mess starts, the chance that they will leave from there will tend to zero. At least because of self-esteem. So you have to agree

[demo]

Hezbollah's standard of concept is the henchman and the main destabilizing force in Lebanon. Under the Iranian tune, he holds the country in mittens, creating an imaginary image of Israel as Kashchei from fairy tales.

Just do not sculpt from Israel the image of such a "fluffy white bunny" from fairy tales to children for a future dream.
Israel is a rather fierce state that does not reckon with any prohibitions, often uses disproportionate force, does not reckon with any incidental losses both in the enemy’s manpower (and not only), and in the destruction of its material resources, acting only in its own interests.
I am not discussing why this is so.
I state the facts.

So it’s allowed to condemn someone who is even a cut above the condemned.
A better order of the whole.
"Do not judge, but you will not be judged."

If not for them, Lebanon would have long ago signed a peace with Israel, as Egypt and Jordan did, and soon the countries of the gulf will do as well.

One can only admire and applaud the diplomatic skills of the Israeli Foreign Ministry.
Just yesterday, literally, Egypt, Jordan, the SA and many others dreamed of dusting Israel, and today Arabs and Jews are brothers forever.
Bravo.
And the most interesting thing is that Israel itself did not hit a finger in order for such metamorphoses to occur.
Oh well.
Do we know how such successes are achieved?
So, as soon as the power of the corrupt Arabs changes in one country or another (can this be ruled out?), All the contracts will be sent to the shredder.
And in Israel, the top leadership knows very well the essence of the Arab.
But the Arabs do not suffer from childish infantilism about Israel.
All the most interesting is yet to come.

[bobwings]

Absolutely right, the fierce is not considered, But ... always is the answer to the threat. Do not threaten and you will not be beaten ... Lebanon and Israel have nothing to share without Hezbollah.
Israel has peace with pragmatic Arab dictators, they are the natural ruling force in this culture. As long as they are strong and stable enough, I hope this will continue to be the case. In Egypt, there was an attempt to change power, nothing came of it.
The people of these countries are as much as anti-Semitic that the world will always be cold, but even so.
With Russia, judging by the comments under any article mentioning Israel and the Jews, the situation is similar.

[Vitaly gusin]

Quote: demo

We are looking for the enemy (enemies) inside Assad’s environment.
And chop heads.

Or maybe only one
OCTOBER 13, 2019 I WRITTEN
Let's all analyze what happened together.
In order, the international meeting in Ankara. 16 September 2018
Leaders of Russia, Iran and Turkey:
“The illegal presence of American troops on Syrian soil threatens its territorial integrity and national sovereignty as an independent state, a member of the UN. The US president spoke last year of his decision to withdraw troops from Syria, but this did not happen. "American forces should leave this region as soon as possible - so that the sovereignty of Syrian equality spread throughout the country,"
Today, Trump did what was requested.
Vladimir Putin called for the liberation of Syria from the presence of foreign military contingents. According to him, the appeal applies to all states whose military is not legitimately located on the territory of the Arab Republic.
Russia is by invitation.
Iran is under proclamation.
Turkey and the USA are not legitimate.
The USA left and Turkey remained, which may leave Syria, but only after it returns 30 mils to the 2 km zone. Syrian refugees from Turkey.
And this is the bulk who do not support Assad, as you know, they have no documents and there are not a few bearded ones.
And now the fun begins.
There will begin to flock from other areas and another hot enclave will form.
The Kurds will want to go back and a new war will begin.
Having reached its goal, Turkey may possibly leave Syria, but again and again, if it considers it necessary, it will carry out operations.
Iran, with its salicylates, after losing about 3 Hizbullah militants in the war, is unlikely to abandon the construction of military bases around Israel, following the example of Lebanon, and Israel will continue to destroy them.
If you noticed after meeting with Putin, Israel stopped striking, it gives Putin the opportunity to calmly solve his tasks (just don’t write that you were scared) because then you have to change your point of view.
And this will be until ALL and again ALL, without exception, leave Syria and there, under the control of the UN and other interested countries, REAL elections will be held and only after that all interested countries, under the leadership of the International Development Bank, will begin to restore Syria.
In the meantime, everyone uses it as he wants, regardless of the people of Syria, and this is the rake of Afghanistan.
6 MONTHS HAPPEN AND WHAT CHANGED?

[demo]

In Syria, Russia shows the most low-cost version of the war.
And, accordingly, the most ineffective.
And the fact that she takes such friends as "fellow travelers" is because there are no others.
So there is a certain bitter truth in your words.
It seems to me that a victory in Syria, even if it does take place, will be "Pyrrhic" for Russia.
Especially against the background of all other world events.
The protracted voyage of our VKS may turn out to be a shot in the water.
And, as has happened more than once, someone else will take advantage of our successes.

[Vitaly gusin]

Quote: demo

In Syria, Russia shows the most low-cost version of the war.

You can not be a little pregnant.

Quote: demo

The protracted voyage of our VKS may turn out to be a shot in the water.

God forbid, that would be in the water, but the fastest way to keep up with all the events that are happening today.
And today there is a reason, the coronavirus, and we need to use it, we basically experienced everything that could be tested and verified. You can leave these savages and let them understand themselves.

[Vitaly gusin]

Quote: demo

In Syria, there are people who leaked information to Israel.

And where there are no such people, it all depends on the amount.
And what do 10 reconnaissance satellites do, which constantly transmit information and photos that are sometimes uploaded to you.

[demo]

Naturally there is.
And, most likely, they will.
But they must either be removed from power, or destroyed.
But 10 satellites - this is not a solution to the problem.
The satellite does not see well when it is cloudy, with dust storms, with fog, at night.
And even the presence of streaming video in HD quality is not a guarantee that you can make a 100% conclusion about the presence or absence of something.
Those. errors will always be.
At the same time, an extensive network of underground communications can reduce the risk of the destruction of something important.
So field spies are the most reliable information base.

[Vitaly gusin]

Quote: demo

At the same time, an extensive network of underground communications can reduce the risk of the destruction of something important.

The pictures are clearly visible the tunnelsleading into two large hangars (in the picture they are marked in red)

Judging by these images, the construction of military facilities continued on the territory of the base. This time special attention to the fortified underground tunnel about 120 meters long, up to 5 meters wide and about 4 meters deep.

Iran is digging underground tunnels on the border of Syria and Iraq, designed to smuggle weapons, militants and missile storage. This is evidenced by photographs taken from satellites
[Center][/ cente

Quote: demo

So field spies are the most reliable information base.

But still, Stirlitz is more reliable.

[Comrade Michael]

Well, what are the people breaking spears? In my personal, perhaps incompetent opinion, there is less and less sense in our gatherings in Syria ... And in general, in any long-term military campaign, if you have a half-dead economy, there is no point ... In 4 years we reached Berlin once ... Through half of Europe ... I suppose that connoisseurs of "cunning plans", "hybrid wars" and other sacrileges aimed at concealing the weakness of the state and its management will attack me, but still I will remain with my personal opinion ...

[Krasnodar]

One of the goals of the presence of the RF Armed Forces in Syria is to influence oil prices through the intensification of military operations in the military forces or the support of one or another side by the air forces.

[Zeev Zeev]

And greatly did this intensification help raise the price of oil? In 2014, oil was 100 bucks, now about 20.

[Krasnodar]

No, but any war in the war on oil means oil prices go up from the current market

[Zeev Zeev]

This is fundamentally a false statement when it comes to countries that do not play a significant role in the oil market. Syria, for example.

[Krasnodar]

Ira and south and east

[Zeev Zeev]

That is, until there is a war in the Gulf itself, there will be no hesitation up.

[Krasnodar]

Not necessarily the bay itself - Iraq

[Zeev Zeev]

Iraq, too, no longer plays a big role. During the war with GIVE, oil did not take off very much, and after that did not drop much.

[Krasnodar]

Once again, other factors play a role in oil pricing, however, during military operations, oil is not strong, but takes off
With volumes of Russian production, every dollar plus is tens of millions of tanks

[demo]

Here is a graph of oil prices from 2017 to 2020.
There were wars and economic downturns.
But prices did not rise sharply and did not fall sharply.
I remember that a fall of 1-2 dollars was perceived as a tragedy.
And today is ......
Pricing processes are driven by other factors. More precisely, the initiators of the causes.

[Krasnodar]

Once again, the main reasons are:
1) Demand
2) Production volume
3) Other
a) The volume of oil reserves of the main consumers
b) Force Majeure. BV wars, political decisions of leading and oil-producing countries, etc.
Database control - in Russian production volumes - this is a lot of money

[demo]

Before the latest fatal events, the oil situation should have been stable.
1. Demand is constant, predictable.
2. Volume - constant, controlled.
3. Other - there are ambiguities.
4. Force majeure he is in Africa .....
So.
What influenced the price jumps of $ 20-30 over three years?
It is interesting to hear your opinion.

[Krasnodar]

1) Heh. No one expected such volumes of oil shale production of one of the main consumers of oil - the United States
2) There cannot be a constant controlled volume - the American shale has confused cards for everyone, since 1973 there has been no unity among oil-producing countries
3) The price of oil futures is adjusted by reports on oil reserves in the USA, China, etc.
4) Force - major - leave the pandemic, it is in Africa ..
The fighting, the attack on Aramco, etc.
The last three years - the US-China "trade wars", the reduction in the cost of oil shale production, military operations in the BV

[demo]

Approx.
Is accepted.

[Comrade Michael]

no longer worked. in the short term, yes. but after 4 years there is no point ...

[Krasnodar]

Why didn’t it work? )))
This affects pricing but is not a major factor.

[atalef]

Quote: Gritsa

Quote: Tzar

Well, or until you decide to land a couple of bandits.

It is advisable that it is over Lebanon. So that the Jews switched to a pig screech. And the point of the gallant flyers of Israel was a little bench press.

For the time being, you screech in a squeal of pigs, with a frequency of about once or twice a week.
Over the years so 7
How many hits have there been?
It seems like the 400th

[Krasnodar]

That for Israelis a routine, for people writing in VO is an event)).

[Comrade Michael]

I’m more worried that we are losing one political and economic battle after another, and these are not cunning plans to lure the enemy, but simply mediocre defeats ...... This will lead to the curtailment of already thin military programs ... (if we discard boastful husk on Russian TV) ... And yes, we lose by raising white flags, signing humiliating compromises. And our industry has not risen either in the past 20 years or in the last 5 .... Therefore, we cannot even beat our allies and Idlib and periodically bomb Khmeimim drones. Because in reality we are weak. Our propaganda only immobilizes our population, worsens its quality, and does not affect the enemy in any way. Because propaganda goes after deeds, but no deeds.

[Krasnodar]

What is a political battle and what should interest me?
Who are "our allies"? On the territory of the SAR, since the beginning of the 80s, they tried to open a base of the USSR Armed Forces. I don't remember Iranians, Syrians and other cheto either in 2008, or in two Chechens (except for Arab mercenaries who did not participate on the Russian side). Rather, the aborigines, who are helped for the deployment of the base on their territory.
The economic battle - what is it? The economy is weak, we have to work on it, and when working with everyone you need to be friends, not to fight ...

[Comrade Michael]

We must be friends not with everyone (and with no one), like our government, but with our people first of all ... Including, raising their creative competencies, giving us the opportunity to grow ....

[Krasnodar]

The government should not be friends with the people.
The government should serve the people.

[Golovan Jack]

Quote: Krasnodar

The government should serve the people

How's that?

[Krasnodar]

Raising the quality of life and the level of safety of the population in all spheres of life.
You are the founder of the company. You have chosen from different candidates the General Director (chairman of the board of directors) and the head of marketing, security, production, the head of the legal department. What do you expect from people to whom you pay salaries? Increases in income, minimal damage to the enterprise during crisis situations and negative changes in market conjuncture, etc.
The same thing with the government.

[Golovan Jack]

Quote: Krasnodar

You are the founder of the company

The problem is that in this case, the "founder" is a team consisting of completely heterogeneous and multidirectional personalities. And the assessment of each of these personalities is deeply subjective. Therefore, with any "director" among this team there will be people dissatisfied with them, the director. And then - from the classics:

Quote: A&B Strugatsky, Doomed City

- Sorry ... - Izzy absentmindedly rubbed a puddle on the tablecloth with a napkin. “It's arithmetically clear,” he said. - Let the dissatisfied make up only one percent. If there are a million people in the City, it means ten thousand dissatisfied. Even a tenth of a percent - a thousand dissatisfied. How will this thousand make noise under the windows! .. And then, mind you, after all, it’s not quite happy. It’s only quite dissatisfied. And so, after all, everyone lacks something. You know, he’s satisfied with everything, but he doesn’t have a car. Why? He, you know, on Earth is used to a car, but here he doesn’t have one and, most importantly, is not expected ... Can you imagine how many there are in the City?

[Krasnodar]

Cool passage
Ok - I agree, let not the founder, but the meeting of shareholders of OJSC. Opinions are different, people are different, but if the management of the company does not give profit or does not minimize the consequences of, say, the global economic crisis for shareholders, then it does not serve the interests of shareholders well.

[Golovan Jack]

Quote: Krasnodar

if the management of the company does not make a profit or does not minimize the consequences of, say, the global economic crisis for shareholders, then it poorly serves the interests of shareholders

My heart senses that with these coronaviruses we will now see a lot of enterprises where the management will be "bad".

It should be noted that governments, for example, Israel or Sweden (good) work in quite greenhouse conditions compared to the government of the Russian Federation (bad).

At the same time, mind you, I am not saying that the government of the Russian Federation is all ardent professional patriots. Not at all. But the conditions in which the "enterprise" is located should also be taken into account when assessing the actions (and their results) of the "management". IMHO.

[Krasnodar]

So I do not argue - even the mentality of the peoples is different)). And yes - if the Swedish conditions are quite hothouse (Israeli - from which boudun? ), then the Russians are another song. The country is young, it took many years to bring life into a tolerable form, now it is a continuous struggle with a bunch of misfortune, from sanctions to a pandemic.

[Golovan Jack]

Quote: Krasnodar

Israeli - from which Budun?

Everything is debugged. Fit, sanded, oiled ... works. I'm talking about the state machine now.

In the Russian Federation, this is not so: so far everything has been assembled on the knee, processed with a rasp and made to spin. It creaks, but it seems to be going — personally, I have been observing some (small, yes) progress over 30 years. If he creaks for another 100 years, it will be like in Sweden. May be

[Krasnodar]

Everything is debugged. Fit, sanded, oiled ... works. I'm talking about the state machine now.

Not really, not everything, not everywhere)).
For the 18 years that I visited, and now I live, in Russia - progress is really on the face.

[Golovan Jack]

Quote: Krasnodar

For the 18 years that I visited, and now I live, in Russia - progress is really on the face

Vo-in ... and schA will come running oppy and instruct the minuses ... well, let them amuse themselves, what to take from them

[Krasnodar]

Well, people have no other joy, besides the minuses, in life - sho zrobit

[Comrade Michael]

They have been sitting on our neck for more than 20 years already, only in North Korea they are sitting more ... And all to no avail for us. Staying already by all accounts. Club of pensioners ... And whom are they dragging everywhere as successors and bosses? Children of friends ... And many will disagree with you ... No matter how half the population ... Just do not tell about how it chose. Everything is already known to the babies about the elections.

[Golovan Jack]

Quote: Comrade Mikhail

all for no use to us

And who are you?

Quote: Comrade Mikhail

very many disagree with you ... No matter how half the population ...

Brave claim. The survey was carried out, or with your finger in ... well, may there be sky?

Quote: Comrade Mikhail

already even babies know everything

I am glad that you finally understood what even babies know.

I have a big request - leave me alone, plz. There is a (big) cloud of characters with whom you will definitely find a common language. With me you will definitely not find him

[Comrade Michael]

I don’t need a common language with you. You have your own opinion. I have mine. And it's solid. I have nothing to write paragraphs here.

[A. Privalov]

The London-based Al-Sharq al-Awsat newspaper:

The recent visit by Iranian Foreign Minister Mohammad Javad Zarif to Damascus and his negotiations in medical masks with the leadership of Syria are a reflection of the intensification of the struggle between Tehran and Moscow for dominance in Syria. Russia managed to find mutual understanding with all foreign players: the USA, Turkey and Israel, Iran cannot count on it.

In general, lately it seems that the Russian Federation is already looking for a beautiful excuse, as it were, to get out of Syria. Five years, human losses, equipment, finances ... A lot of things went there, they helped Bashar as much as they could, sometimes tearing themselves away, and apparently not feeding the horse. It is time and honor to know, as they say.
https://inosmi.ru/politic/20200420/247296126.html

[Golovan Jack]

Quote: A. Privalov

It's time and honor to know, as they say

How is this visible? In the article under the link, there is not a word about "preparing to leave," but rather "preparing to put pressure on Assad."

Quote: A. Privalov

lately it seems that the Russian Federation is already looking for a beautiful excuse, how to get out of Syria

Dream, dream ...

[A. Privalov]

Quote: Golovan Jack

Where does this come from?

Roman, let's get back to this issue a bit later. And for now, read this article here. Just as an occasion for reflection.
https://svpressa.ru/politic/article/263692/

[Golovan Jack]

Quote: A. Privalov

let's get back to this issue a bit later

Easy ... and better after the fact.

Quote: A. Privalov

And for now, read this article here. Just as an occasion for reflection

I looked through it fluently ... well, "pisses on the water", so what?

You see ... I don’t have much free time to do fortune telling on this whole, ahem, thicker. They demand work from me, now even more than when I went to the office every day.

Therefore, I prefer to be an outside observer

But I still have the impression that no one will "come out" from anywhere. But that Assad will be replaced by someone more popular and sane - well, let's just say, it seems to me so

[senima56]

And where is our mighty S-300 ?! Or was it delivered to Syria "for furniture" ?! We would have shot down one or two Israeli fighters, of course, in a scream! But they would definitely stop flying!

[Mite]

Quote: senima56

And where is our mighty S-300 ?! hi Or they put it in Syria "for furniture" ?!

Yes, they already erased the start button there .. from impatience .. There is no order.

[Comrade Michael]

And the point is the bench press for the consequences ... At the decision maker

[Old26]

Quote: Tzar

As an option - the conclusion of an agreement on the protection of the Lebanese sky of Syrian air defense (by analogy with the protection of the Baltic sky by NATO countries). But this requires the consent of Lebanon itself and the determination to play big with Syria itself and its allies.

Syrian air defense would protect their own sky, and not conclude treaties to protect the Lebanese sky.

Quote: Stalllker

As an option, send several groups with MANPADS to Lebanon, to the places of possible flight and meet them there on the ground behind the hills? If you wish, you could organize such groups, missiles from aircraft, develop a launcher for them, it would be even better than MANPADS

There is an old hunting parable. The bottom line is that the hunter has one path, the game has hundreds.
The coastline of Lebanon is approximately 250 km. How many groups of fighters with MANPADS need to be placed? 23-25 ​​groups of 2-3 arrows with MANPADS. It will take almost a hundred anti-aircraft gunners. And as you find an Israeli plane approaching the coast at ultra-low altitude. Especially at night. And to come up with something makeshift - it means to waste money. The meaning in such installations is zero ...

Quote: Cyril G ...

Let the Khusits ​​be asked for PU for the RVV R-27T and SU. Everything is transported on a pair of Gazelle vans

Yeah. And will supplies be on the bottom of the Red and Mediterranean Sea (and on the bottom of the Suez Canal)? The Hussites themselves live on handouts from Iran, where they can deliver someone else. In addition, there is nothing ...

Quote: Stalllker

I don’t think there is anything complicated there, we could do it ourselves. I think our defense industry pores should ponder this topic for sabotage operations. Collapsible launcher for two missiles, missiles also collapsible. Remote control, so that after shooting they would not cover the calculation with return fire.

Dzhigit launcher. Not ... Haven't you heard ???. And the collapsible rocket is generally a masterpiece. Tell me more that the fuel and explosives in the rocket should be such that one could buy at any pharmacy ... And remote control. Also a masterpiece. You will also check remotely. Via video channel or via fiber optic ???

Quote: Gritsa

Quote: Tzar

As an option - the conclusion of an agreement on the protection of the Lebanese sky of the Syrian PV

And if Lebanon asks for such protection from Russia, then this will be a decline in the glory of the Jewish Air Force.

Lebanon? In Russia? Well, you and the storyteller. Then, as an assumption, think up that they will ask for protection, well, for example .... The United States ....

Quote: demo

The presence in the territory of sovereign Syria of foreign contingents who were there not by invitation, but as a result of the intervention, does not imply any other option, except for force.

So, now Syria and the Americans toenail, not just the Turks ??? Is there a force to inflict at least one blow at the place of deployment of the Turkish or American armed forces, and not enough barmalei? Or will they think that the Russian aerospace forces will cover them? No. It was clearly stated to the Syrians that she would deal with her neighbors herself, without our help

[Mite]

Israel began to celebrate its holiday .. Hold on Syria!

[muham]

Quote: Tick

Hold on to Syria!

And what will Syria hold on to?

[Mite]

Quote: muham

Quote: Tick

Hold on to Syria!

And what will Syria hold on to?

For Russia, and the rest is not your mind ...

[muham]

Quote: Tick

the rest is not your business.

Then I look where Mikhan Russia brought. With that kind of mind, you should be in charge of the state, and not a sofa to drive syudy here.

[strelokmira]

How is the s-300 doing then?

[muham]

Quote: strelokmira

How is the s-300 doing then?

That's why it’s doing ...