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The People's Deputy of the Verkhovna Rada for the Atlantic Council declared "Putin's war with history"

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The People's Deputy of the Verkhovna Rada for the Atlantic Council declared "Putin's war with history"

The American analytical center Atlantic Council, known for its affiliation with NATO, has released material on Russia and the actions of our state to protect the truth about stories World War II. It is noteworthy that the author of the material for the mentioned analytical center was the well-known Ukrainian deputy Aleksey Goncharenko. The people's deputy of the Verkhovna Rada is a member of the PES faction (Party of European Solidarity), whose leader is the ex-president of Ukraine Petro Poroshenko.


Goncharenko, in an article entitled “Ukraine cannot be neutral in Putin’s war with history,” writes that under Vladimir Putin, “a new cult developed around the Soviet experience in World War II.” This tirade alone suggests that the deputies of the format of Mr. Goncharenko, working in the interests of NATO, are trying to slander the truth about the war, calling it “a war with history”.

Moscow’s reaction to the demolition of the monument to Marshal Konev in the material presented by the Atlantic Council is called “an example of Moscow’s attempts to impose its view of history on another.”

Interesting note ...

But what, then, would call the attempts of modern Kiev to define “the Ukrainian famine and genocide of the Ukrainian people” as famine that swept through many regions of the Soviet Union, including the regions of Northern Kazakhstan, the RSFSR and not only? Or should Russia’s desire to convey the truth about World War II be considered a “war against history” and the lie about the Holodomor cultivated in post-Maidan Ukraine “an exceptional truth and a model of a correct approach to historical science”? ..

Further, Mr. Goncharenko writes that after the coronavirus pandemic, Russia “can secure a significant advantage in the coming (information) war”. Moreover, there is generally a pandemic, the author did not bother to explain. Apparently, Goncharenko decided not to leave the information trend, which consists in linking the pandemic to any events in the world.

Goncharenko for the Atlantic Council:

Ukraine cannot afford to avoid this conflict. But with the current approach of the Ukrainian authorities, - it seems, the “politics of memory" is to avoid controversial historical topics - the country will not remain unharmed. Ukrainians will have to develop and promote their own historical interpretations.
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  1. svp67
    svp67 April 26 2020 10: 45 New
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    Deputy Alexey Goncharenko. The people's deputy of the Verkhovna Rada is a member of the PES faction (European Solidarity Party), whose leader is the ex-president of Ukraine Petro Poroshenko.
    Wherever Alexei did not enter and leave ... in which only factions and most importantly always remains "afloat" ... as that substance that does not sink ...
    1. Mite
      Mite April 26 2020 10: 48 New
      +9
      Quote: svp67
      Wherever Alexei did not enter and leave ... in which only factions and most importantly always remains "afloat" ... as that substance that does not sink ...

      And how many of these we have in Russia too .. Now, before May 9, they are all very activated, pouring mud on Russia and its past ..
      1. Insurgent
        Insurgent April 26 2020 10: 54 New
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        the author of the material for the mentioned analytical center was the well-known Ukrainian deputy Aleksey Goncharenko


        Few Crimeans beat him ...

        1. Sky strike fighter
          Sky strike fighter April 26 2020 11: 05 New
          +3
          The people's deputy of the LIE is lying.
        2. Mordvin 3
          Mordvin 3 April 26 2020 11: 13 New
          +6
          Quote: Insurgent
          Few Crimeans beat him ...

          So this lip-slap? Here ... laughing
          1. Insurgent
            Insurgent April 26 2020 11: 15 New
            18
            Quote: Mordvin 3
            So this lip-slap? Here ...

            IT yes

            But knowing what it is executioner of OdessaI don’t feel like laughing ...
            1. orionvitt
              orionvitt April 26 2020 14: 22 New
              +2
              Quote: Insurgent
              this is the executioner of Odessa

              One from the executioners of Odessa.
            2. Xnumx vis
              Xnumx vis April 26 2020 15: 13 New
              +3
              It’s a pity they didn’t finish Gubastik in Crimea! And Valtsman had to be driven away in Simferopol .. We play all the nobility! ...
        3. hroft
          hroft April 26 2020 11: 14 New
          +6
          Cool video, I just got pleasure
        4. 4ekist
          4ekist April 26 2020 11: 15 New
          +5
          It’s a pity that the living ubl ... yudok.
        5. Mitroha
          Mitroha April 26 2020 11: 30 New
          11
          The people's deputy of VRU is included in fraction PES

          What a self-sufficient phrase.
      2. 4ekist
        4ekist April 26 2020 11: 27 New
        +2
        There are few, but there are. I believe that this is a flaw (or intentional reluctance) of the legislative branch.
      3. Grandfather
        Grandfather April 26 2020 14: 52 New
        +1
        Quote: Tick
        Quote: svp67
        Wherever Alexei did not enter and leave ... in which only factions and most importantly always remains "afloat" ... as that substance that does not sink ...

        And how many of these we have in Russia too .. Now, before May 9, they are all very activated, pouring mud on Russia and its past ..

        exactly ... remember the former "people's deputies" ... as many as nine bodies faded over the hill ...
        1. Lelek
          Lelek April 26 2020 15: 19 New
          0
          Quote: Dead Day
          as many as nine bodies faded over a hill

          hi
          Shedding something they periodically fade, but (like Carlson) return to the Ruins trough (Yaytsenyuh, Mishiko and other creatures).
      4. tihonmarine
        tihonmarine April 26 2020 16: 58 New
        0
        Quote: Tick
        . Now, before May 9, they are very much activated, in pouring mud on Russia and its past.

        There is nothing surprising, the ice on the "planters" has melted, the feces float up, there is a lot of stench from them, but no matter how it stinks, you don't pour foam from your mouth, but the Soviet Victory Flag, which was installed by Soviet soldiers, hangs over the Reichstag.
    2. novel66
      novel66 April 26 2020 11: 03 New
      +6
      normal, for the deputy, we have the same, maybe not so talkative
      1. loki565
        loki565 April 26 2020 11: 05 New
        +3
        Yes, what are the deputies, we have enough of such in VO)))
        1. Mite
          Mite April 26 2020 11: 10 New
          -3
          Quote: loki565
          Yes, what are the deputies, we have enough of such in VO)))

          The cons went out of stream ..))) And yesterday even a sniper from the National Battalion drew herself here, decided to bounce out of a bastard .. negative
          1. Insurgent
            Insurgent April 26 2020 11: 29 New
            11
            Quote: Tick
            Yesterday, even a sniper from the National Battalion drew herself here, decided to bounce out of a bastard ..

            What kind of sniper?
            And How yesterday she was "banished" over you, if you have comments,just for today ?
            1. Mite
              Mite April 26 2020 11: 51 New
              -3
              Quote: Insurgent
              Quote: Tick
              Yesterday, even a sniper from the National Battalion drew herself here, decided to bounce out of a bastard ..

              What kind of sniper?
              And How yesterday she was "banished" over you, if you have comments,just for today ?

              Yes, there was such a thing and she was not pissed off, but about the boilers and how she "had fun" there ... the rest is not important hi
              1. Insurgent
                Insurgent April 26 2020 11: 59 New
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                Quote: Tick
                Yes, there was such a thing and she was not pissed off, but about the boilers and how she "had fun" there ... the rest is not important

                How is it not important? Bandera run around the site as on the Maidan, and "no matter"?

                Give a link to the article, comments, for yesterday.
              2. Insurgent
                Insurgent April 26 2020 12: 21 New
                +7
                Quote: Tick
                Yes, there was such a thing and she was not pissed off, but about the boilers and how she "had fun" there ... the rest is not important


                So the link to the "sniper" I asked for would be?
                1. Mite
                  Mite April 26 2020 15: 18 New
                  -2
                  Quote: Insurgent
                  Quote: Tick
                  Yes, there was such a thing and she was not pissed off, but about the boilers and how she "had fun" there ... the rest is not important


                  So the link to the "sniper" I asked for would be?

                  No, I won’t be banned .. and I won’t raise it .. And you were there too, by the way .. hi
                  And my rating was -4 thousand at once wink So no need to pretend to be "Zelensky".))) (Just kidding)
                  1. Insurgent
                    Insurgent April 26 2020 15: 21 New
                    +6
                    Quote: Tick
                    No, I won’t be banned .. and I won’t raise it .. And you were there too, by the way ..

                    In my life, I've been to a lot. Topic, what article?
          2. 4ekist
            4ekist April 26 2020 11: 30 New
            +2
            Did you send her on a long erotic journey?
            1. Insurgent
              Insurgent April 26 2020 11: 37 New
              +9
              Quote: 4ekist
              Did you send her on a long erotic journey?

              Yes, he drives, obviously with a drink, he was not on the site yesterday ... The first comment, generally in his "life", this morning yes .

              fool some kind or provocateur ...
            2. Mite
              Mite April 26 2020 11: 54 New
              -6
              Quote: 4ekist
              Did you send her on a long erotic journey?

              That's right, and then they also sent me ..))) wink
      2. 4ekist
        4ekist April 26 2020 11: 20 New
        0
        .... The people's deputy of the Verkhovna Rada is a member of the PES faction (European Solidarity Party), whose leader is the ex-president of Ukraine Petro Poroshenko ...

        The name of the party PES does not quite correspond to these figures, PIG would be better.
      3. tihonmarine
        tihonmarine April 26 2020 16: 59 New
        +1
        Quote: novel xnumx
        normal, for the deputy, we have the same, maybe not so talkative

        That's what the deputy is to "brehat".
    3. Olgovich
      Olgovich April 26 2020 11: 06 New
      +9
      Quote: svp67
      Wherever Alexei did not enter and go out ... in which factions only and most importantly always remains "afloat" ... as that substance, which

      This disgusting creature known to those. what did the laudatory report against the background of those who died in the House of Trade Unions on May 2 in Odessa.

      It's enough. to know everything about him. .
      1. Insurgent
        Insurgent April 26 2020 11: 11 New
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        Quote: Olgovich
        This disgusting creature is known to those. what did the laudatory report against the background of those who died in the House of Trade Unions on May 2 in Odessa.

        It's enough. to know everything about him. .


        No, not all ...

        He not only cynically commented on what was happening, but was also among the initiators of the arson.

        And this is a completely different qualification.
    4. knn54
      knn54 April 26 2020 11: 48 New
      +1
      -VRU for the Atlantic Council.
      You can not comment further.
    5. NKT
      NKT April 26 2020 14: 28 New
      0
      As Gaft said in the movie "Garage":
      My incorruptible, to betray in time - it is not to betray, it is to anticipate!

      Although this phrase was spoken before him, it was simply rephrased in the film.
    6. Lelek
      Lelek April 26 2020 15: 13 New
      0
      Quote: svp67
      Where Alex just did not enter and did not go ...

      hi
      And he is like a flea - he will use all the bitches and dogs. And how many such fleas in Russia have divorced. DUST (ohm) them, DUST (ohm). yes
    7. akunin
      akunin April 26 2020 17: 33 New
      0
      Quote: svp67
      Where Alex just did not enter and did not go

      I will clarify a little: "Where Alexei just did not enter and did not leave ...", and so "he p ... rast, he will sell his homeland."
  2. Sergey S.
    Sergey S. April 26 2020 10: 50 New
    +5
    Ukrainians will have to develop and promote their own historical interpretations.

    Interpretations of history are not difficult to compose.
    To indulge in front of yellow reporters is very easy.

    Then we must defend with weapons in hand ...
    Are Ukrainians ready for this?
    In the meantime, they are all the bitter laughing stock of insane cowardly clowns.
    1. orionvitt
      orionvitt April 26 2020 14: 42 New
      +2
      Quote: Sergey S.
      Interpretations of history are not difficult to compose.

      Already where they compose, it is only not in Russia. I don't understand what has to do with "Putin's interpretations". Everything that I was taught 50 years ago, in the Soviet school, fully corresponds to the position of Russia regarding the Great Patriotic War today. New facts are being made public, so this is not a rewriting, but an addition to what is already known. Only under the "totalitarian USSR", absolutely everyone (both the "democratic" west and not very democratic east), were categorically in agreement with the generally accepted history, but here on you. The union was gone, so many people crawled out of history.
      Then we must defend with weapons in hand ...
      Totally agree with you. And the saddest thing to do is. But it always has been, in a different way.
  3. PalBor
    PalBor April 26 2020 11: 05 New
    +7
    As I understand it, this is the Goncharenko who filmed himself joyful against the background of those killed in the Odessa House of Trade Unions? Is he also an outstanding political scientist and historian? He is such a charming fighter for freedom and truth (no) that our "handshake" representatives of the "creative intelligentsia" gave him some kind of prize.
    Unfortunately, lately there is a feeling that only carpet bombing and mass shootings will save Ukraine.
    1. Lelek
      Lelek April 26 2020 15: 29 New
      +1
      Quote: PalBor
      Unfortunately, lately there is a feeling that only carpet bombing and mass shootings will save Ukraine.

      hi
      These are the most extreme measures. But what is noteworthy is that the eastern and southeastern regions are increasingly beginning to understand that the "west" blinked at them and that they will survive (in the literal sense) only in contact with Russia, which has been dying for the last decade.
  4. Gardamir
    Gardamir April 26 2020 11: 10 New
    -2
    "Good article. Where the cockles are mixed and the Americans are no longer arguable. That is, if someone is dissatisfied with the fact that the Mausoleum is being hung with rags on May 9, they are already supporters of the State Department. Those who are unhappy that Victory Day was postponed to the invented day of September 3, are they also enemies?
    For example, the presidents of Russia and the USA talked yesterday. But the network is pumping up the situation.
    1. military_cat
      military_cat April 26 2020 11: 23 New
      +3
      This question is also interesting. "The law on the postponement of the date of the end of the Second World War from the second to the third September" - is it a falsification of history? Why yes / no?
      1. sleeve
        sleeve April 26 2020 12: 11 New
        +3
        But I wonder what really motivates the transfer?
      2. Uncle lee
        Uncle lee April 26 2020 12: 16 New
        +1
        Quote: military_cat
        Why yes / no?

        Victory Day over Japan (September 2) is a public holiday in the USSR established by Decree of the Presidium of the Supreme Soviet of the USSR of September 1945, 3 "On declaring September 1945 as the Victory Day over Japan" in honor of the USSR victory in the 1945 Soviet-Japanese War. Only two years remained inactive - in 1946 and XNUMX.
        1. Avior
          Avior April 26 2020 12: 54 New
          -3
          I do not remember such a holiday in the USSR in general
          1. Uncle lee
            Uncle lee April 26 2020 13: 00 New
            0
            Quote: Avior
            I do not remember

            September 3, we always celebrate this Day (Sakhalin, Kuril Islands). And in the South there is a huge museum for the liberation of Sakhalin and the Kuril Islands from the Japanese invaders.
        2. military_cat
          military_cat April 26 2020 13: 59 New
          -1
          Quote: Uncle Lee
          established by decree of the Bureau
          Ok decree, good. And on what day is the war over?
      3. Golovan Jack
        Golovan Jack April 26 2020 19: 38 New
        -2
        Quote: military_cat
        This question is also interesting. "The law on the postponement of the date of the end of the Second World War from the second to the third September" - is it a falsification of history? Why yes / no?

        Initially, in 1945, the Supreme Soviet of the USSR declared the victory day over Japan precisely September 3. The same date is indicated on the reverse side of the medal "For Victory over Japan", which was awarded to participants in the battles. However, already in 1947 this day became a working day, and eventually it was forgotten as a holiday

        1. Red Dragon
          Red Dragon April 26 2020 20: 38 New
          0
          So the war with Japan, like World War 2 as a whole, ended kind of like signing the surrender of Japan aboard the battleship Missouri on September 2, 1945. And here is the date that the Supreme Soviet of the USSR defined as the date of Victory over Japan, if the surrender was on September 2? belay That is the question, in my opinion, the dear military_cat is asking. fool
    2. your1970
      your1970 April 26 2020 11: 56 New
      +8
      Quote: Gardamir
      Victory Day was moved to a fictitious day on September 3

      Victory Day no one anywhere could not stand ...
      September 3 as the day the war ended was adopted under Stalin. In your opinion, a return to the Stalin date is bad ???
      1. Mite
        Mite April 26 2020 12: 26 New
        +3
        Quote: your1970
        Nobody endured Victory Day ...

        We will celebrate as it should, but without a parade .. We will remember our grandfathers and great-grandfathers, recall their stories and tell our children grandchildren, we will watch films about the war with the whole family and the same parade soldier

        so in vain the neolib are howling here suit ..
      2. Gardamir
        Gardamir April 26 2020 12: 29 New
        -1
        In your opinion, a return to the Stalin date is bad ???
        That is, Putin, as a faithful Stalinist, returns all of Stalin's, collective farms, social justice. Will they give out money to everyone self-made, and will oligarchs be dispossessed? This date was accepted only a month ago. And recently they said that the Union was considered the day of victory over Japan on September 2.
        1. your1970
          your1970 April 27 2020 18: 20 New
          0
          Quote: Gardamir
          That is, Putin, as a faithful Stalinist,

          What scares me the most is that you think Putin alone is to blame ....
          What was to blame for a start was Gorbachev, to whom the entire Communist Party (all 16 million !!!) unitedly handed over all the power and then looked into his mouth, then Yeltsin and only then Putin, this is not interesting to you ...
          Have you ever wondered - where will go for example 54 farmers who own all 340 hectares of agricultural land in our area?
          Here I have a feeling - that there where to and in 1918-25 - either to burn under a machine gun or a new power / to shoot windows at night ...
          Just do not have to sing that only large-scale industry is being nationalized, what should be cultivated on collective farms if land is not nationalized?
          And exactly the same thing will happen in the industry of commerce and other
          If you leave the small owners, it will be the same as at the end of the NEP. After all, it was also due to fierce corruption by small owners of civil servants and red directors ....
          You cannot get off with Gazprom alone ....
      3. DNS-a42
        DNS-a42 April 26 2020 13: 18 New
        0
        Quote: your1970
        return to the Stalin date is bad ???

        Under Stalin:
        September 2 - WWII end day.
        September 3 is the day of victory over Japan.

        Under Putin:
        September 3 - WWII end day.

        And where is the coincidence?
  5. Pacifist with AK
    Pacifist with AK April 26 2020 11: 16 New
    +3
    One of Sharia’s favorite victims of brutal sexual abuse!

    Time and place, I hope, is not worth voicing ...............
    1. The comment was deleted.
  6. rocket757
    rocket757 April 26 2020 11: 21 New
    +1
    Shaw there to discuss, such frames easily get the position IN-OUT. And there is NO more.
    1. Mite
      Mite April 26 2020 12: 20 New
      -3
      Quote: rocket757
      Shaw there to discuss, such frames easily get the position IN-OUT. And there is NO more.

      I also think so .. They are there in Kiev, like scorpions in one bank .. Soon they will begin to sting each other .. It is precisely this that Russia is seeking! hi
      1. rocket757
        rocket757 April 26 2020 12: 30 New
        +1
        The people there, themselves, are tearing apart their extreme.
        There those who have at least some kind of mood for the unification of the country will never be allowed to power.
  7. Ham
    Ham April 26 2020 11: 32 New
    +2
    have sunk to the "analytical center" if they have Lech Goncharenko as an "analyst" ....
    this is the bottom
  8. Sergey269
    Sergey269 April 26 2020 11: 42 New
    +1
    The sonorous, and most importantly fair name, Dog! He barked, changed his shoes, most importantly, earned a bone ...
  9. gabonskijfront
    gabonskijfront April 26 2020 11: 58 New
    +1
    Ukraine and Russia are two mutually exclusive projects, either we or they. We just need to recognize this and plan for the long term according to this. Our goal is the liquidation of the Ukraine project.
  10. iouris
    iouris April 26 2020 12: 01 New
    +1
    Goncharenko is not a "people's deputy" but an oligarchic protege, a well-known political criminal. He is not an intellectual. "War on history" is an empty concept. In essence, it is more correct to talk about some attempts to revise meanings, this is also called opportunism. It is unlikely that they will be successful without leaving the United States.
  11. sleeve
    sleeve April 26 2020 12: 05 New
    0
    But why are they all fighting with Putin? What is Hollywood psychiatry to impersonate all bad things with one person? Well, so that the main villain was. Or will this desire self-exalt? Then he is automatically rescued greatness. Probably a local booth with a remote control from the same place. Professional overseers, they are slaves at heart, so they dream of licking the owner's paw. I don’t understand they really think that Putin disappears and everything will go according to their old unfinished scenario? Will it all win back and we bow again and turn out our pockets? Earlier it was clear that by smearing the Mvtinsky fence with tar they seemed to be for the Russian people. But now the machine is driving over all of us. Means simply devalue already for all progressive humanity? Some kind of "reasonable liberal" with a weak heart will come instead of BB ... well, let them start tearing up forever, and around the standing ovation, finally these monsters?
    1. sleeve
      sleeve April 26 2020 12: 06 New
      +1
      Local booth with a cult. I apologize.
  12. Yury Siritsky
    Yury Siritsky April 26 2020 12: 11 New
    0
    Any shit once in the deputies considers it his duty to pour their contents on display.
  13. Ros 56
    Ros 56 April 26 2020 12: 24 New
    +1
    Well, what did you want from an agent of the Verkhovna Rada, so he lies like a gray gelding. Well, just a savage Bandera.
  14. Junior Private
    Junior Private April 26 2020 13: 46 New
    -1
    Quote: Sergey S.

    Then we must defend with weapons in hand ...
    Are Ukrainians ready for this?

    No. Not ready. Ukrainians, of whom the majority, are not able to deal with a clear minority of Bandera evil. So the people deserve what they deserve.
  15. Fedorovich
    Fedorovich April 26 2020 16: 49 New
    0
    Party PES ... I alone want to add two more letters?
  16. venaly
    venaly April 26 2020 17: 16 New
    0
    People's Deputy of the VRU, People's Deputy of the SRU. There are enough of such jokes in the fallow land. There is also such a body - NABU. There, exactly in the middle of the letter "E" is missing.
  17. Indifferent
    Indifferent April 26 2020 17: 20 New
    -1
    Who is this People's Deputy to devote so much time and effort to him? Today he is, and tomorrow he is nobody's name. Another would be to comment on the "statement" of the cleaning lady from the Rada!
  18. st2st
    st2st April 26 2020 20: 00 New
    +2
    Maybe I’ll express a seditious thought, but I’m very, very sorry that in today's Russia there is no liquidation department in power structures. It does not matter, in the SVR, or in the GRU. An example of the destruction of the lackey of the Nazis Bandera, and his henchmen, is the best confirmation that in the USSR they knew how to bring the mrazota to zero. Oh, how much work there, in Independence. The late NI Kuznetsov, would be tired of working. There are a lot of them, not enough, and their grandchildren. Oh, how many ...
    1. Leonidych
      Leonidych April 26 2020 20: 20 New
      +1
      It's a shame that such scum walks on the ground.
  19. APASUS
    APASUS April 26 2020 21: 09 New
    0
    I love these stories when a medical doctor by training teaches the whole world to interpret history! Relying in the meantime, not on facts or historical documents, but on the political situation.
    Also, they found me a yard expert on the history of the Great Patriotic (World War II) war? good
  20. Aborigen4ik
    Aborigen4ik April 27 2020 04: 18 New
    +1
    I’m lying, Dog ... Some kind of bacchanalia ...
  21. Sergey Afanasyev_2
    Sergey Afanasyev_2 April 27 2020 13: 31 New
    0
    Oh, stop saying that! Found someone to look at! Have you ever seen Mokrits?