The lead destroyer Zumwalt officially joined the U.S. Navy

The new destroyer head squadron DDG 1000 Zumwalt is officially inducted into the U.S. Navy. The ceremony took place on April 24, 2020 in San Diego.

According to the press service of the American fleet, the decision to introduce the destroyer into the combat force was made after the activation and commissioning of the main combat systems of the ship. Zumwalt is a member of the 1st Test Division of Surface Ships (Surface Development Squadron 1 - SURFDEVRON) of the US Navy Pacific Fleet. Prior to this, the ship was in the testing phase from October 15, 2016, when the destroyer was handed over to the fleet.

It is clarified that the change in the status of the destroyer will not affect either the crew or the fleet itself, except that the ship will be included in the combat structure. As explained in the Navy command, Zumwalt will continue to undergo complex tests, preparing for the advanced tests planned for next year. But according to the results of the expanded plans, it is planned to declare the destroyer to have reached the initial operational readiness and to include it directly in the combat strength of the fleet.

The new generation DDG 1000 Zumwalt lead destroyer was built for the U.S. Navy under a U.S. Department of Defense contract received on February 14, 2008. The official bookmarking ceremony took place on November 17, 2011, launching on October 28, 2013, the first access to the sea for factory sea trials on December 7, 2015. The ship was formally received by the U.S. Navy at the shipyard builder on May 20, 2016, and on October 15, 2016 in Baltimore, the ceremony of the official transfer of the destroyer of the Navy took place.

Recall that initially the Pentagon planned to build a series of 32 destroyers of the DDG 1000 Zumwalt type, but in 2009 it was decided to limit the series to only three ships because of the too high cost (the lead Zumwalt cost $ 4,4 billion). The total cost of the program for designing and building three ships and creating systems for them is now estimated at $ 24 billion.

Currently, the Navy can not decide exactly where to use these warships. If initially they were positioned as effective surface-based means of launching missile strikes, then they decided that they should be used as support ships for landing operations.

Comments

[aszzz888]

(The head Zumwalt cost 4,4 billion dollars).

Dear Tsatska. And silence about the imperfections, have they really eliminated everything?

[mitroha]

So it would be okay "dear tsatka" with unique combat properties. And then you don't understand what is extremely expensive.

[Thrall]

Zumwolt is as much a breakthrough in shipbuilding as this:

[Insurgent]

If initially they were positioned as effective surface-based means of launching missile strikes, then they decided that they should be used as support ships for landing operations.

From the distance at which the destroyer is out of reach for the arrows and spears of the Papuans?

Have you weighed the Wishlist with real possibilities, and changed your mind, revised the "efficiency"?

[NIKN]

Quote: Thrall

the same "breakthrough" in shipbuilding as this

If you evaluate it as a combat unit, then the value here is not great. But the investments in R&D, technology and a lot of things I think are not without benefit (of course, the role of sawing is understandable). Some step towards something new has been made, the rest will have to go through it, and thanks to the Yankees, thanks to them, this path can now be passed "straighter". I believe that all the innovations worked out on this project can be used not only in this industry.

Cons are not mine if that.

[orionvitt]

Quote: NIKNN

But the investment in R&D, technology and a lot of things I think are not without good

R&D is certainly good, even wonderful, but that's bad luck. All these theories about "stealth" have long been buried and are capable of scaring, only scientifically immature, virgin brains of various aborigines.

[3danimal]

And can only the overly strengthened and ossified consciousness be capable of debunking these “theories” in such a categorical manner? Who is hard to get acquainted with the basics of radar and it prefers to "eat" simple stamps?

[orionvitt]

Quote: 3danimal

to debunk these “theories” in such a categorical manner is only capable of overly strengthened and numbed consciousness?

Listen here, being with a "gentle and sensitive", "open and not blinkered" consciousness. Radar is part of my institute specialty (the subject was called "antenna-feeder devices") and it is not for you, talkers who have received a "comprehensive education" on the Internet to judge such things.

[3danimal]

Then it is all the more strange that you say such things.
Do you consider the designers of the Su-57 to be "gentle and sensitive talkers"?
Now important is the ability to learn and seek information.

[orionvitt]

Quote: 3danimal

Do you consider the designers of the Su-57 to be "gentle and sensitive talkers"?

"Stealth", works only against those countries where there is a low level of technology development in the field of weapons. These include the armies of the vast majority of states on the planet. Against Honduras, it will work, against Russia or the United States (?) Not. What I wrote above, that all these tricks are exclusively against the "aborigines".

[3danimal]

Do you understand how stealth works? (Except tele-stamps)

[orionvitt]

Whole institutes are working on this problem, with a huge staff of academicians, in a nutshell it will not work. In terms of "stealth", there are two options, absorption and scattering of radio waves. Construction materials and the geometry of the aircraft itself play a role here. From a detection point of view, these are frequencies, modulation, signal configuration, and most importantly, their processing algorithms. Taking into account the special designs, the transmit-receive antennas themselves. How it works in theory, any person with the education of a radio engineer will tell you, but in fact, the problem is very difficult (most complicated), and not every state can do it. Just as everyone is familiar with the theory of jet propulsion, only a few can build an apparatus capable of flying into space.

[3danimal]

I’ll clarify: how does the reduction in EPR (for cm and decimeter used for accurate modern radars) affect the target detection range?
The answer is: this range decreases in proportion to -4 degrees. Reduce EPR by 64 times, range decreases by 2. Reduce by 300, range decreases by 4.16 times. At the same time, one can receive radio emission from bearings of the enemy radar from a great distance. All this gives a serious tactical advantage. And so modern ships (discussed in an article about them) are trying to make it as inconspicuous as possible (due to their shapes and coatings).
About the meter range radars: they are too bulky and have accuracy that is insufficient for guiding missiles without nuclear warheads. They cannot be installed on an airplane or rocket.
Separation of the receiver and transmitter has the same effect: modern Russian systems on this principle “see” the “invisibility”, transmitting its approximate location in a square of 300x300 meters.

[Mite]

Quote: aszzz888

(The head Zumwalt cost 4,4 billion dollars).

Dear Tsatska. And silence about the imperfections, have they really eliminated everything?

It is unlikely that the raw boat is the same as the F-35 .. There is a lot of money, these are the monsters who are building it. A cast iron!

[3danimal]

However, the pace of construction is envy. Like the Chinese, by the way ..

[Valery Valery]

Currently, the Navy can not decide exactly where to use these warships. If initially they were positioned as effective surface-based means of launching missile strikes, then they decided that they should be used as support ships for landing operations.

Real failure !!! Even a good mine in this game can not be saved.

[Mavrikiy]

The ship was formally accepted The U.S. Navy at the shipyard builder May 20, 2016, and on October 15, 2016 in Baltimore, an official ceremony was held transfer Navy destroyer.

officially entered into battleThe composition of the US Navy. The ceremony took place on April 24, 2020 ........ according to the test resultsinclude directly in the battle fleet composition.
How everything is running then! Me, me. As a freak was born, it will remain so. How much more naphthalene will be transferred to it? Anyway, a mole at the wall will eat.

[Grandfather]

a large ship, a big torpedo!

[Thrall]

Quote: Dead Day

a large ship, a big torpedo!

I even feel sorry for this torpedo. The American naval commanders would probably be glad to sink it themselves. But no, let them suffer further

[3danimal]

Zadornov must be trusted, he said - stupid. Well, business is not bad. And with science. And with shipbuilding.

[Snail N9]

Yes, yes, just like that, "with his caps, his caps", "slippers, slippers, like a cockroach!". "All of us are calibers, mirrors and poseidons!"

[Mavrikiy]

Well, a hat-slipper about a cockroach, why get dirty? Torpedo, to such crap, but sorry. Iron, by definition, can’t swim, it’ll drown itself.

[3danimal]

I hope you are not talking about Kuznetsov?

[Insurgent]

Quote: Valery Valery

Real failure !!! Even a good mine in this game can not be saved.

There would be "Zumwalt", but there is always a good mine.

[mitroha]

Four years drove the ship for $ 4.4 billion to come up with its application. And at the stage of design and construction, this question did not bother anyone? Well, yes, the money went ...

[Mavrikiy]

The lead destroyer Zumwalt officially joined the U.S. Navy

Welcome because the fish also need to eat. $ 4,4 billion, tested from October 15, 2016 to 2021.

But according to the results of the expanded plans, it is planned to declare the destroyer to have reached the initial operational readiness

Quite played up. It is clear that they didn’t decide which pi ..... to sew this sleeve on. We also have nothing to advise.

[Paul Siebert]

Surprisingly - the iron swam!
I could not believe it to the end ...
But, apparently, they spent too many billions.
Even if it drowns, then it will remain in the fleet. Rename the submarine.
The experimental ...

[viktor_ui]

It is easy to find someone else’s and to be a sofa shipbuilder - a strategist of its application ... Faberge are resting. But ask a simple question, can our industry make such a heap-failure ??? Well, for fun ... imagine? I presented and the output turned out to be electric jig (remember it, this burp of our car industry is a freak who is really that). As for me, what’s in my head, that’s what I use because of OUR capabilities. Developers, designers and programmers are still determined with potential, which turned out as a result in hardware. We would have such problems

[_Sergei_]

electric jig (remember it, this burp of our car industry is a freak who’s the right one)

Nothing worse than Nissan-Liaf (it seems so). The only negative (and very bold) price. They promised for 600 thousand, and in the end it went for 1100 thousand. rubles.

[viktor_ui]

NOT worse than ANYTHING ... well then I am the pope.

[Zementbomber]

Zumwalt is a member of the 1st Test Division of Surface Ships (Surface Development Squadron 1 - SURFDEVRON) of the US Navy Pacific Fleet.

And yet, the 1st test surface squadron is still not US Navy combat forces. More thoroughly necessary!

[TermNachTer]

Well, he is a test, but it is believed that the ships in it have reached operational readiness. That is, they can be used for their intended purpose.

[Doccor18]

Grand design and
great failure ...

[mmaxx]

That's when the Americans say it, then we will rejoice. In the meantime, emotions are not necessary

[veritas]

Currently, the Navy can not decide exactly where to use these warships.

This moment is surprising. A dish costs incredible money, and where to use it is not decided. In general, any military equipment is designed for specific tasks.

[Antidote]

Just like with the Mistrals and all kinds of aircraft carriers.

[Oleg Kolsky 051]

Is this iron semi ship or semi submarine? In the network there are shots where "this" at speed buried itself into the water up to the wheelhouse, ugh, then bish up to the superstructure.
It's a pity they canceled the construction of the rest, you need to replace all the "Tikanderogi" and Arly - Zumami.

[mmaxx]

Can I take a look? How many did not look, all the time he was on smooth water. I'm very interested in this question. Since, personally, I have a hunch that taking into account the excess power of the mechanisms, it was made according to the wave-piercing concept. You just need to take a look and evaluate how Zamvolt and any other ship are on a similar excitement.

[mmaxx]

Nowhere did I find the frames of the move on great excitement. And where it was some kind, then with its size about the excitement you can not remember. Again, it is simply hard to believe that the Americans, having a long tradition of the ocean fleet, could have missed such a thing as seaworthiness. Moreover, having pools, etc., etc. On smooth water is very good. Easy and waveless.
Again, when wave-piercing boats were built to cross the Atlantic, they were given just such contours. They also put a ballast tank in the nose. They filled her with excitement. So that the nose does not rise on the wave and pierce it. This required some extra power on the propellers. It was these boats that were the first to cross the Atlantic faster than the United States liner. Nobody complained. There were problems on the planing boats, because the crew was shaking their hearts out for the transition. Why should a ship with a displacement of 14 thousand tons be experiencing any problems? This is, like, a heavy cruiser since WWII. And with a higher board.
The video shows that all deck devices are below deck. Nothing extra sticks out from above. Spatter formation compared to other ships d. B. minimal. The network has footage from a French film about the ocean. You can see how the French frigate goes. Fills everything to hell. Our EM "Admiral Ushakov" is. It's also hard. Battleships, too, did not flutter dry.
For Zamvolt, there may be one problem - icing. Here yeah. But amers have many ships. There is someone to send to the North. But then again ... will there be more problems than others? There is nothing on the deck.

[TermNachTer]

Long and expensive it went into operation.

[Avior]

Zamvolt was the victim of funding cuts. The fleet is used to not counting money, but then break it off.
They made new MK57 launchers, larger than the old MK41, but they didn’t make a single rocket! They made a new gun - there is no ammunition under it, because of the reduction it turned out to be fabulously expensive.
The radar had to be cut, railguns and lasers failed, nothing to put, then what remains? One iron box. A classic example of the fact that the percentage of novelty should be limited, and Zamvolt has everything new!
It was simpler than simple, for example, to start replacing Burke’s nose launcher from 32 μ41 to 16 μ57, to make a batch, we would get a ship with new capabilities in the field of missile defense, long-range supersonic hypersonic air defense, anti-ship missiles and ultra-long subsonic anti-ship missiles and cruise missiles.
The μ57 cell has a 1,7 times larger volume, that is, it allows the use of missiles 2 times more energetic, something that cm-3 is sorely lacking for intercepting ICBMs.
Even if the New Cell did not live up to the hopes of using old missiles in it, there would be no problem, the combat effectiveness of this series of Berkov would have changed insignificantly.
But no, they decided to make the Ship, where the new is everything, and even it doesn’t exist in nature, so they got a zilch at the exit, spending a lot of money.
Now they will actually use it as an experimental one, when there is money to develop missiles for MK57

[voyaka uh]

All missiles launched from mk41 can also be launched from mk57.
So Zumvolt rockets loaded normally.
----
"to begin with, replace the nose launcher Burke from 32 MK41 to 16 MK57" ///
----
Impossible. Do not fit MK57 on Burke

[Avior]

I’m writing, to reduce the number of cells by half, everything would fit, Burke’s total ammunition would decrease from 96 cells to 80, which
The same launcher could be used on the land Idzhis, and not get out, trying to unscrew the impossible from the cell volume.
Normally Zamvolt would be loaded if there were missiles under the MK57, and without it, Burke would be half as much and its combat efficiency would be much greater
As for the rockets, I didn’t hear that the cm-3 fired from MK57, at least according to external data
In fact, on let essm and cm-6.
For this it was necessary to make a frigate of 4-5 thousand tons, it would be eight times cheaper, and similar in capabilities

[voyaka uh]

So far, Zumvolt is roughly equal to Burke.
But it is used for 50% of possibilities.
Three Zumvolts will be used as missile cruisers outside the AUG.
When they test electric weapons, they will put it on these
platforms. Having dozens of Berks, it’s not a sin to have three experimental
platforms for the future as part of the fleet.

[Avior]

It would be more correct to have three warships with unique capabilities
To do this, it simply begs to create a cm-3 version for MK57, it can also be used for land installations, the problem of intercepting ICBMs will be immediately solved, which has been struggling for a long time, throwing out a lot of money, missiles for MK41 simply lack energy for fuel, and MK57 this I’d solve the problem and bring Zamvolt’s radar up to the design level, and I would get a unique Ship specialized in missile defense, where its capabilities would be undeniably superior to Burke.
It would be a ship, which is not a pity to spend money
At the second stage, develop on the basis of accurate and guided missiles land-based MLRS, for this, in fact, you only need a solid fuel accelerator to launch, you get relatively inexpensive long-range missiles in support of the landing, 4 per cell, that is, up to 320 pieces of ammunition, leave the gun for medium range, with a cheaper shell
The ship would have a second function undeniably superior to Burke.
At the third stage, the second gun should be replaced with the MK41 module for air defense missiles and other things, it would free up the MK57 cells for the main task, there are only 80 of them.
Alternatively, leave the second weapon in the expectation of the appearance of lasers or railguns, what the hell doesn’t joke, they will suddenly do it, but then put the short cells of MK41 at least for self-defense, under the ECM, there is enough space for this.
And then a unique Ship would have been conceived, and not a victim of circumcision of financing, as now

[voyaka uh]

The Americans do not need another type of missile defense ship. Aegis meaning on
Burke is that there are a lot of ships and they transmit in a common network
aim each other by shooting sequentially. The first one missed, someone
will hit.
Americans need a cruiser against other surface ships.
He hit the enemy ship from the RCC from afar, swam up and finished off the guns.
That's just with the guns on Zumvolt failed.

[Avior]

As for me, this concept was artificially invented in an attempt to adapt

All of the same missiles can stand on Burks, and Burke can perform the same tasks.
But Burke can do a lot of what the current Zamolvut never dreamed of with his circumcised radar
Americans urgently need missile defense capable of operating on ICBMs
And it was announced on the basis of cm3, but it’s stalled; electronics is not easy to fix the lack of rocket energy
And for MK57, this problem is simply solved

[voyaka uh]

"Americans urgently need an anti-ballistic missile defense missile" ///
----
This has nothing to do with the fleet. Leave the ICBM alone.
sm-3 does not pull to intercept ICBMs. Maximum intercept bdds with
second third attempt.
Take a look at how big the GBI rockets are in Alaska. They are huge.
Zumvolty adapt to changing conditions.
China has become powerful. It’s not a question of supporting artillery landings
fire from ships.
There were tasks to stop the attacks of the Chinese fleet.

[Avior]

Cm3 obviously lacks energy, and therefore there are problems with interception
In MK57, this problem would disappear
The American missile defense system is just one of the important functions of the fleet, the ability to provide it from the right direction very quickly, including against the Chinese with their medium-range ballistic missiles.
And the possibilities of land Ajis would increase dramatically.
But the Chinese fleet cannot be stopped by single ships with practically limited capabilities, like Zamvolt’s, the Americans in this matter are more likely to need a massive inexpensive frigate in addition to the Burks, with the same missiles as Zamvolt would have an effect

[pmkemcity]

Quote: voyaka uh

Americans need a cruiser against other surface ships.
He hit the enemy ship from the RCC from afar, swam up and finished off the guns.

Then the Americans just need to build "other surface ships" ...

[voyaka uh]

“Other surface ships” are smartly built by the Chinese.
Ships of the 1-2 class bake like pies. Tens a year.
There will not be enough three Zumvolt cruisers.

[mmaxx]

Most likely due to the fact that the Burke are just super well-oiled ships, we decided to run ahead and not save. Made everything new. The volume of ideas just accumulated. And it's easier to build experienced ships than to run a series of limited new ones, getting Burke, but a little better.

[prior]

There is such a concept among amateurs to drink - I could not tolerate it.
Zumwalt, in my opinion, also falls under this definition - undercrafting.

[vkd.dvk]

Quote: military_cat

The railguns were canceled after all, but it’s a pity that it would be an engineering miracle. It would be interesting to look at him even out of sheer curiosity.

So look on the Internet for a demonstration of the use of this miracle. It is not possible to come up with more diotism. In VO there is an article on the modernization of artillery guns, caliber 155 mm with a firing range of 100 km. Active-reactive, of course, shells. (And, possibly, with JIPIES management). So, they themselves recognize that the goal of these monsters is not objects, but squares. Interestingly, the shell stuffed with explosives and controlled- and, nevertheless, the area. So, who will the railguns shoot at, a couple of kg copper blanks that have no control and charge? To hit objects? AS? And, even more so, from a ship subject to pitching.

[mmaxx]

On pitching, it’s nowhere easier to debug the shot process. All electrical and electronic. Closes the switch at the right time and that's it. One hundred years as guns shoot from a position without a roll. Trunks stabilization has long been carried out by drives.

[Vladimir Mirniy]

not for beauty, they put him into operation, with their finances will bring to mind.

[vkd.dvk]

Quote: Avior

Zamvolt was the victim of funding cuts. The fleet is used to not counting money, but then break it off.
They made new MK57 launchers, larger than the old MK41, but they didn’t make a single rocket! They made a new gun - there is no ammunition under it, because of the reduction it turned out to be fabulously expensive.
The radar had to be cut, railguns and lasers failed, nothing to put, then what remains? One iron box. A classic example of the fact that the percentage of novelty should be limited, and Zamvolt has everything new!
It was simpler than simple, for example, to start replacing Burke’s nose launcher from 32 μ41 to 16 μ57, to make a batch, we would get a ship with new capabilities in the field of missile defense, long-range supersonic hypersonic air defense, anti-ship missiles and ultra-long subsonic anti-ship missiles and cruise missiles.
The μ57 cell has a 1,7 times larger volume, that is, it allows the use of missiles 2 times more energetic, something that cm-3 is sorely lacking for intercepting ICBMs.
Even if the New Cell did not live up to the hopes of using old missiles in it, there would be no problem, the combat effectiveness of this series of Berkov would have changed insignificantly.
But no, they decided to make the Ship, where the new is everything, and even it doesn’t exist in nature, so they got a zilch at the exit, spending a lot of money.
Now they will actually use it as an experimental one, when there is money to develop missiles for MK57

There is Mikhalkov’s fable that the elephant artist wrote a masterpiece:

Fable Elephant painter [i] [/ i]
The elephant painter painted the landscape,
But before sending him to the opening day,
He invited friends to look at the canvas:
What if it suddenly failed?
Our guests are flattered by the attention of guests!
What criticism will he hear now?
Will not be cruel animal court?
Overthrown? Or will they exalt?
Connoisseurs have come. Elephant opened the picture.
Who got up further, who came closer.
"Well, well, - began Crocodile, -
The landscape is good! But I don't see Neal ... "-
"That Neil is not there, there is no big trouble! -
Said Seal. - But where is the snow? Where is the ice? "-
“Excuse me!” The Mole was surprised.
There is something more important than ice!
The artist forgot the vegetable garden. "
"Oink-oink," the Pig grunt, -
The picture was a success, friends!
But from the point of view of us pigs,
There should be acorns on it. "
All wishes were accepted by the Elephant.
Again he took up the paint
And to all friends as far as possible
I got it with an elephant brush
Depicting snow and ice
And the Nile, and the oak, and the garden,
And even honey!
(In case the Bear suddenly
A picture will come to see ...)
The elephant’s picture is ready,
Friends called the artist again.
Guests looked at the landscape
And they whispered: "Yeralash!"

A friend of mine! Do not be such an Elephant:
Follow the tips, but wisely!
You can't please all your friends
You can only hurt yourself.

Zamvolt is the same landscape, written collectively by different nonsense.

[Vasyan1971]

The lead destroyer Zumwalt officially joined the U.S. Navy

There was no care, a woman bought a pig.
However, someone else's headache ...

[Ros 56]

When to repair and upgrade?

[Pvi1206]

At first they did it, but now they are thinking for what ... they also saw the budget, or what? ...

[Comrade Michael]

How was it accepted? And the "patriots" said he would drown himself, would not accept it, etc ... It couldn't be!

[mmaxx]

The iron just had to sink. With this bummer.

[Reserve buildbat]

It turns out interestingly. 1st Zoom - 4,4 yards of suffocations, and three Zoom - 24 yards - how is it? By the way, as far as I remember, one B-2 costs about 2 yards, so for 24 it was possible to rivet 12 pieces to the existing 20. There would be more sense at times. But they scooped up nepoymi that without weapons, without radar, without PLO (meaning, without what they wanted to stick).
A useless freak came out who barely swims.

[faterdom]

Oh, relsotron, wunderwaffe, ja-ja!

[Freemason Mason]

How many couch experts came running in the comment, scolding Zamvolt in every possible way ... At the same time, news was recently released about stopping work on our Leader. They would be silent in a rag after that, but no - you have to express your valuable jingoistic opinion. And leave the caps

[surf dude]

It’s just interesting that no comment is mentioned on the cut. Understand that this is not Russia, they are building, designing and putting into operation without it. All these cuts - they sit so deep in your selection that without them it is impossible to create / build, etc.? Interest is idle, I see that each post about the introduction of a new one is accompanied by cut comments.

[mmaxx]

Themselves didn’t do nifiga, so cuts are seen everywhere. Shout at any number: "Cut!"

[faterdom]

Quote: surfdude

there they build, design and commission without it

"There" is where, excuse me? Not in the US by chance? Since they are just champions in cutting, they steal more from them on Pentagon orders than they generally allocate for defense.

[surf dude]

Thanks, thanks.

[Login_Off]

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[Marconi41]

The devil knows him, but some of them are not residential. Everything is entirely of iron color, cubes and those eyes are not pleasing. I don’t know how he will show himself as a military unit, but the interior decoration was not impressive. A bunch of monitors on the all-round cameras also made fun. I saw this at the border guards. They put a penny camera and a monitor to it themselves as a rear-view camera and I think for completely different money than that of the Americans.

[mmaxx]

Well, in general, the military on ships on the part of the interior is dull. Everyone has. Sailors, if anything, half-naked heifers hang themselves.
And devices like a digital periscope are considered a very successful thing. You can see everything from one place. And you don’t need to run along the bridges. Especially when they are not

[Marconi41]

Yes, I’m in the know, after all, he served in the Navy for many years, and I’ve seen enough different projects of ships, but such a metal design is too much.

[3danimal]

So the fact of the matter is that a penny camera. If you organize everything correctly, you can get the whole picture.

[pmkemcity]

And then, even their own, "capitalist" rats, they are afraid.

[shadow]

Came in without knocking, flew out without sound

[vkd.dvk]

Quote: mmaxx

On pitching, it’s nowhere easier to debug the shot process. All electrical and electronic. Closes the switch at the right time and that's it. One hundred years as guns shoot from a position without a roll. Trunks stabilization has long been carried out by drives.

And if you think lightly? Shoot at 10 km and 100 km notice the difference? Further. A projectile of 2 tons, loaded with 500 kg of explosives MAY fall 30 meters from the target. The target will be destroyed. A 2 kg copper blank SHOULD not only fall into the target’s contour, but also into a critical area.

[mmaxx]

The railgun has a straight trajectory. You can throw a shell far. There is nowhere to fall at such a range .. And within the limits of this direct shot, there is no need to shoot far. The earth is round. Here range is simply a derivative of speed.
Yes, and did not put this railgun. Why laugh at what is not?
In the 60-70s, we swept bullets. It turned out that at their speed, there is almost no need to make an aim point on moving targets. On a railgun, the projectile speed is very high. The guidance problem is greatly simplified.

[3danimal]

They also intended to fire guided projectiles at great ranges. In the flying "on the sides" before hitting tungsten buckshot.

[mmaxx]

Somehow, after all, they got blanks on satellites and even asteroids (or something there in space)

[vkd.dvk]

Quote: surfdude

It’s just interesting that no comment is mentioned on the cut. Understand that this is not Russia, they are building, designing and putting into operation without it. All these cuts - they sit so deep in your selection that without them it is impossible to create / build, etc.? Interest is idle, I see that each post about the introduction of a new one is accompanied by cut comments.

Of course, cuts for us are a painful phenomenon, so there is so much talk about them. If only because cut is a criminal offense.
One way or another, law enforcement officers are struggling with this. Bad, not satisfactory, but there is hope .....

There are no cuts in our understanding. There is completely legitimized the concept of lobbying interests. You just need not to carry money in a suitcase, but to appoint a representative to the post of congressman or senator. Choose which is better.

[vkd.dvk]

Quote: Freemason

How many couch experts came running in the comment, scolding Zamvolt in every possible way ... At the same time, news was recently released about stopping work on our Leader. They would be silent in a rag after that, but no - you have to express your valuable jingoistic opinion. And leave the caps

Diodes ran in and defended the failed project, which they spent ......... dough on. Penguins refused, but local neighbors protect. The difference in the closure implemented on several copies of the unnecessary glands and at the paper stage, do you distinguish? Paper is microbially small compared to a piece of iron. Paper teaches, moves science, at this stage it is clear what is real and what is not real. Inevitably something will be used. The main thing in moving forward is not to blame without looking back, you will fall, and be able to stop in time.

[mmaxx]

Before drawing conclusions about failure, uselessness, etc., you just need to do nothing and not say anything. Just to think. Let the Americans do it. They are actively trying different ideas. Some are successful, some are unsuccessful. But they will draw conclusions. This is their money, their ideas and their implementation. And we need to look at it from the edge.
An ordinary person will never understand the logic of a rich man.
As if we didn’t have any crap. The same fleet with the army of the times of the Union. If half the trash had not been done, then it would be possible to improve people's lives and the country would be alive.

[Mordvin 3]

Quote: mmaxx

If half the trash hadn’t done,

Somehow people prayed en masse for Japanese audio equipment. So that's it. Recently I bought a Technics deck for a bubble, 97th year of release (this is a Panasonic company, if that), so she chewed about 8 cassettes from me. Filthy rollers. I put it from the Soviet Elegy in '87, it all worked the way.

[mmaxx]

The question is, where are those submarines, planes and tanks? Here is a place for Technics and Elegies in the same place - in a landfill. All is well in place and time.

[3danimal]

Why build life for people if they should not feel sorry for the party and the victory of communism? And the parties in the cap countries must be maintained, and money should be spent on helping (freeloaders) allies ...

[Comrade Michael]

Name at least one of our major projects completed over the past 30 years from the idea to the series (large, not advertising) .... And yes, did anyone consider how much money we spend on these long, endless projects? I think they will never tell about it, because the point is not in their ending .... And yes, paper does not teach anything. All paper without iron is a way to pump out the budget, because you don’t have to really answer for anything ... You always need a real result, not mountains of paper trash. How do I know that? These are my speculations ...)

[vkd.dvk]

Quote: Knights Templar

Let's try to be really objective and imagine for a moment when the ship such an innovation, could be accepted into our fleet?
I’m not talking about whether we need it or not, and I don’t even raise the topic of cutting budget funds. I just want to focus on technology, engineers and workforce. Unfortunately, they were one step ahead in these matters in comparison with the USSR, and now even more so ...

This is the coronovirus data for April 26th. If technology cannot save people, then this is technology for cars, not for people. The price of this civilization and technology is worthless.

[Comrade Michael]

This is about nothing ... Some kind of rude agitation. Can affect carpenters and locksmiths.

[surf dude]

- In Russia, 10000 patients with coronavirus have been identified.
-And how many tests have been done?
.

[vkd.dvk]

Quote: mmaxx

Before drawing conclusions about failure, uselessness, etc., you just need to do nothing and not say anything. Just to think. Let the Americans do it. They are actively trying different ideas. Some are successful, some are unsuccessful. But they will draw conclusions. This is their money, their ideas and their implementation. And we need to look at it from the edge.
An ordinary person will never understand the logic of a rich man.
As if we didn’t have any crap. The same fleet with the army of the times of the Union. If half the trash had not been done, then it would be possible to improve people's lives and the country would be alive.

I worked as a designer for half a life and I know for myself that 80% of mistakes in projects are made at the stage of setting the task. That is, at the very beginning of the work. Zumvolt is a vivid demonstration of that.
All should draw conclusions. Including us, experimenting with railguns. Experiments are permissible. The use of dope in the gland, and even replicated, is criminal.

[Comrade Michael]

Whoever thinks our SU-57s are completely fresh is mistaken .... Research began in the mid-80s ....

[vkd.dvk]

Quote: Comrade Michael

Whoever thinks our SU-57s are completely fresh is mistaken .... Research began in the mid-80s ....

Those who believe that a nuclear reactor and electric vehicle know-how are mistaken. Man has been using fire for 20 thousand years, and the wheel is 10 thousand.

[3danimal]

They learned about the fission reaction and learned to control it all the same recently. Ancestors of five hundred years ago would definitely be called devilry and witchcraft

[vkd.dvk]

Quote: Comrade Michael

This is about nothing ... Some kind of rude agitation. Can affect carpenters and locksmiths.

And who are you?

[vkd.dvk]

Quote: mmaxx

Nowhere did I find the frames of the move on great excitement.

Still would. To drown a piece of iron with a cost in a half-European country ... You are writing something about water cutting. And how, succeeds? I think that if a wave does not throw something onto its surface, then, therefore, it drowns. Pump up in 20 seconds (wave period) and test 10 thousand tons of water? From the nose tank. Correct if I made a mistake. Icebreakers can. But slowly, crawling his nose on the ice and crushing it with a new load. in the tank. And their nose is like that of a duck. Bottom is flat. To make it easier to lay your nose on the ice.
A wave of 5 meters, when hitting the side (and this is possible, isn’t it?) Will damn not only the flat side, which does not reflect a casual wave, but also what is behind it. This is probably why no one saw the behavior of this museum in the wake. Because in the pool with beaches around it is intended to fight. Only in the presence of the media to ....

[vkd.dvk]

Quote: 3danimal

Zadornov must be trusted, he said - stupid. Well, business is not bad. And with science. And with shipbuilding.

If you are supported by everything around you, you take what you need without giving anything to anyone, then it will be good for a fool to do business. Through the continuous printing of blank green paper.

[vkd.dvk]

Quote: mmaxx

The railgun has a straight trajectory. You can throw a shell far. There is nowhere to fall at such a range .. And within the limits of this direct shot, there is no need to shoot far. The earth is round. Here range is simply a derivative of speed.
Yes, and did not put this railgun. Why laugh at what is not?
In the 60-70s, we swept bullets. It turned out that at their speed, there is almost no need to make an aim point on moving targets. On a railgun, the projectile speed is very high. The guidance problem is greatly simplified.

Where to get? The horizon on the water is 25 km. Further, without looking beyond the surface? Or from a drone, accumulating an error in multiple spatial measurements, when the coordinates of many connected objects need to be determined to a millimeter, and angular measurements to microseconds? And everything is dynamic, when ALL satellites, a target, a weapon, and the brains of a belligerent move. You know how to calculate, what should the resolution and ability to aim at a distance of a hundred kilometers? When to miss a meter is not to get AT ALL.

[3danimal]

Therefore, the shot will approximately (conditionally, of course, try to calculate the optimal trajectory) towards the target, and the exact guidance - with the help of the GPS steering wheels.
Against ships and moving targets, this will not work for very long distances.
But at 20km - very much so.

[vkd.dvk]

Quote: 3danimal

Therefore, the shot will approximately (conditionally, of course, try to calculate the optimal trajectory) towards the target, and the exact guidance - with the help of the GPS steering wheels.
Against ships and moving targets, this will not work for very long distances.
But at 20km - very much so.

What are we talking about? No way about the rudders on the railgun shell ,? I, at least about it.