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U.S. Armed Forces combatants receive first submarine transporter

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U.S. Armed Forces combatants receive first submarine transporter

The US Special Operations Command (USSOCOM) received the first Dry Combat Submersible (DCS) submarine transporter. This was reported by the press service of the General Atomics Corporation.


As reported, the new device is a carrier of the "dry type", i.e. combat swimmers are isolated from sea water and breathe the air of the submarine. Capacity - 2 crew members + eight combat swimmers with additional equipment. According to official information, the total underwater displacement is 30 tons, length - 12 meters, autonomy and time spent under water for 24 hours, range in underwater position 60 miles at a speed of 5 knots, immersion depth (working) - more than 36 meters, limit - 100 meters.

The electric motor is powered by a modular lithium-ion battery type Lithium-ion Fault Tolerant (LiFT).


The device is designed to transport combat swimmers of the Special Operations Forces. The device can be based on board surface ships and nuclear submarines. DCS was developed to replace the ASDS submarine, built by Northrop Grumman in one model in 2000, but ultimately considered unsuccessful. The reason for the failure was too large - a length of 20 meters and a displacement of 60 tons.

Currently, the American MTR received only one of the three units ordered in 2016, the tests of the second were reported in July 2019. No information is available on the third vehicle, but it is reported that if all three mini-submarines are tested successfully, a significant number of such vehicles can be ordered.
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  1. Amateur
    Amateur April 25 2020 16: 51 New
    +4

    Unfortunately shit-boats all boats "sawed"
  2. rocket757
    rocket757 April 25 2020 17: 00 New
    +6
    Everything is natural. They developed capacious batteries of acceptable dimensions, they will certainly find use in the sun.
    A lot of developments are slowed down precisely because of the lack of the necessary energy sources.
    1. Aag
      Aag April 25 2020 17: 13 New
      +2
      The same conclusion was drawn from the article, but the battery is also lagging behind. wherever a powerful, capacious, small-sized (:-)), autonomous energy source is required. Unfortunately, it is needed almost everywhere.
      1. rocket757
        rocket757 April 25 2020 18: 47 New
        +1
        The production of batteries, batteries, very "dirty", harmful.
        Classic types of batteries are already at the limit of their capabilities, you have to wait for something else.
        1. Aag
          Aag April 25 2020 18: 59 New
          +2
          Only here? More and more countries with less natural, human resources solve this problem ...
          1. rocket757
            rocket757 April 25 2020 19: 19 New
            +1
            Have you seen what dumps of TECHNICAL WASTE were formed in the countries of the "third world" ??? After all, these are real facts ..... green, "frantic Gretta" there a foot! And why actually?
            By the way, and there is no significant production of something significant in those countries! This is me, by the way.
            In short, fairy tales about the cleanliness of production of such "dirty" products as batteries, to a country, only full believes ... naive! They dump their waste somewhere far away, that's all their "purity"! Yes, another option is to build dirty production far away from your trimmed lawn.
            Okay, this is the "lyrics". We have the production of batteries .... but there, too, everything is not in order, as well as many where else we have. This is just an objective reality. It is hoped that this will finally change.
            1. Aag
              Aag April 25 2020 19: 35 New
              +4
              Well, then the Irkutsk region is a country of the 4th world ... (BRAZ, Shelekhov electrolysis, "Radon" is a cemetery of radioactive waste, plus the consequences of the Soviet underground nuclear explosives). And, yes, they made a lot of noise last year with floods, before this, by fires ... I think that the production of popular batteries, against the general background, would be, yes, not pleasant, but justified. Is it not so?
              1. Aag
                Aag April 25 2020 19: 58 New
                +8
                Perhaps I’ll snitch sedition ... About the battery. The wise commander’s regiment of our Strategic Rocket Forces (Poplar), when sending "merchants" to the military enlistment office for conscripts, demanded to calculate those who have connections (parents) at the Svirsky battery factory . Scheme: the soldier is on vacation, 6ST-190 batteries are delivered to the regiment ... And the situation was such that of the entire GPP (training and launch group), of which I was the commander, only one unit (engineering support) could start from of their batteries). The rest, by the method of consistent "lighting" (and the standards are temporary for curtailing, deploying no I haven’t canceled it) .. I remember these years (96-97) when, as a hacksaw, a major, he sawed batteries in banks to make at least two out of six. And the division’s chief engineer shouted: You're stupid, more acid ...
                1. rocket757
                  rocket757 April 25 2020 20: 40 New
                  0
                  Quote: AAG
                  I remember these years (96-97), when already being a major with a hacksaw, I sawed batteries on banks,

                  In my time, all the soldiers were doing this, under the guidance of a maximum ensign. It was still in the SA.
                  Then, and even now, probably, for the sake of showing off, in the “grand calculation" they collect all the best, the whole, leaving everyone else without anything!
                  In general, as always with us, no particular changes are observed precisely in the presence of OWN, such as import substitution. There are objective and no reasons.
                  On the other hand, but a lot where it is very different ??? There are worse situations.
                  Although I want it, Schaub, everything was as it should be.
                  1. Aag
                    Aag April 25 2020 21: 29 New
                    +2
                    So, for the history, at the time of the collapse of the Union, desertion of the rank and file, called up from the former Union republics, was, if not massive, then at least a big problem. Politicians, or a room for educational work (I don’t remember , from what year they renamed, - the same people) were constantly on business trips. They were looking for, persuading, returning. Sometimes, at the risk of their own lives. Imagine, convince the inhabitants of a Caucasian village that their relative should return to serve, so as not to fall under the article. And then it turned out which of the political officer in engineer of human souls, and who is just a talker, stuck.
                    Well, this is lyrics. In fact. In peacetime, the ratio of s / s (soldiers / sergeants) / officers / ensigns was 3: 1. According to the adjusted, about 2: 1. In realities, in particular in my training and launch group, reached to 3:15.
                    There were two accumulators for the entire regiment. They were serviced by about two hundred 6ST-190 batteries. This is only from combat units carrying constant combat duty. Plus transport, engineering ... And all the exhausted terms of operation, storage, even considering all possible extensions .. .
                    Sorry, incurred ...
                    In short, we need batteries! Reliable, good, a lot!
            2. Catfish
              Catfish April 25 2020 20: 55 New
              +5
              Hi victor hi
              It is hoped that this will finally change.

              Unfortunately, over the many years of life in this country, he “managed” to make sure that if something changes here, it is for the worse. Pattern? drinks
              1. rocket757
                rocket757 April 25 2020 21: 06 New
                +4
                Hi Konstantin soldier
                Quote: Sea Cat
                exclusively for the worse.

                You are in vain! We got a bunch of "little joys"! We have built a factory auto-chemistry, so now it, auto-chemistry, is also sold at every corner and automatic washing was opened! Threw denyushku and try to wash the summ !!! As a rule, no one has time!
                If you look, all sorts of pleasant things a whole cart will be typed.
                I won’t remember about the big, important global. Saturday, evening, tomorrow I’m going fishing, I need a GOOD MOOD!
                1. Catfish
                  Catfish April 25 2020 21: 16 New
                  +5
                  Good luck, good friend! hi
                  Take care of yourself and your loved ones. I believe in the best. Happily fish on a good ear. drinks
                  1. rocket757
                    rocket757 April 25 2020 21: 37 New
                    +1
                    Break through, not the first time!
                    And catch the fish for frying .... take a beer "Somovsky" n \ f while it is still normal drinks
                2. the finish
                  the finish April 25 2020 22: 36 New
                  +1
                  Isn't that Grass?
                  1. rocket757
                    rocket757 April 25 2020 23: 31 New
                    +1
                    Quote: finish
                    Isn't that Grass?

                    It is. Two have already been built there. It works, it’s probably an enterprise of "emergency" or a continuous cycle of HA, HA!
                    1. the finish
                      the finish April 29 2020 23: 44 New
                      +1
                      Hello fellow countryman ...!
                      1. rocket757
                        rocket757 April 30 2020 08: 32 New
                        0
                        Welcome soldier
                        I live on Stalingrad land. Just between two cities. This is to ensure that there is no confusion, because Grass, an international company, builds many places. The factory, which is right next to me, in the village of Srednyaya Akhtuba.
                      2. the finish
                        the finish April 30 2020 21: 50 New
                        0
                        City Volzhsky
                      3. rocket757
                        rocket757 April 30 2020 22: 09 New
                        0
                        I work in Volzhsky, I live in a flood plain.
          2. Ros 56
            Ros 56 April 26 2020 09: 11 New
            0
            I didn’t try, since life is so bad?
            1. Catfish
              Catfish April 26 2020 09: 23 New
              +1
              I'll wait until you throw your hooves away. hi
              1. Ros 56
                Ros 56 April 26 2020 11: 18 New
                0
                So I do not complain and do not rush to visit God. So I give way to everyone. hi
                1. Catfish
                  Catfish April 26 2020 11: 24 New
                  +1
                  So speak for yourself, I didn’t ask you for foolish advice. hi
                  1. Ros 56
                    Ros 56 April 26 2020 11: 27 New
                    0
                    And I didn’t advise anything, I just asked a question. So here you are wrong.
                  2. Catfish
                    Catfish April 26 2020 11: 36 New
                    +1
                    Guess who asks such questions? No? Well, okay, I, in principle, do not give a damn about the question and the "master".
    2. NordUral
      NordUral April 25 2020 22: 27 New
      -3
      They decide, Alexander, they decide. At the expense of the third world (we are also in it now, do not flatter ourselves, and at our expense).
      1. rocket757
        rocket757 April 25 2020 23: 34 New
        0
        Why so pessimistic. We are still floundering!
        It depends only on ourselves, POWER or we went for a walk.
        1. Mite
          Mite April 26 2020 09: 34 New
          -4
          Quote: rocket757
          Why so pessimistic. We are still floundering!
          It depends only on ourselves, POWER or we went for a walk.

          That's for sure, the main thing is not to whine, but to work .. And the rest will follow!
          1. rocket757
            rocket757 April 26 2020 11: 17 New
            0
            You can just work, of course! I'm talking about something else.
            Even now, especially NOW, there is an opportunity and time to find colleagues and begin to learn to be TOGETHER!
            The pandemic will end, and the lump of problems that are piled on us, the working people will only grow.
            Now it’s clear that it’s better for the authorities not to interfere with the fight against the infection !!! But then I have to get together and ask from the upper and "servants of the people" WHY WE BECOME WORSE, when up there, everything is not so bad. We are a single country, or they are on their own.
            It seems to me that it itself does not follow! We need to solve this problem ourselves, TOGETHER!
            1. Mite
              Mite April 26 2020 13: 30 New
              -1
              Quote: rocket757
              It seems to me that it itself does not follow! We need to solve this problem ourselves, TOGETHER!

              Okay, you're right, but I don’t want to take up the pitchfork .. And you have to see, judging by those who are here on the site, our brains rivet a drop of poison every day .. hi
              Quote: rocket757
              You can just work, of course! I'm talking about something else.

              And I'm about the same .. you can work in different ways!
              1. rocket757
                rocket757 April 26 2020 13: 54 New
                0
                Just rebel .... no prospects, even greater discord in society can occur.
                You can act in stages. Begin to unite according to fastening principles, around understandable and feasible ideas in this situation.
                After all, the main thing is US will unite, feel like a real force and return to YOURSELF understanding that WE are the COUNTRY!
                There are no special illusions, but you need to try. Lying on the couch, indulging in fantasies, plopping the keys, you will never achieve anything.
                Uppercase, like the truth, but even this is not going to be realized in any way ... about rebellion, revolution, there is nothing to talk about yet.
        2. NordUral
          NordUral April 26 2020 12: 09 New
          -1
          Much depends on us, Victor, but not everyone understands this. That’s why they sit in Sydney when you need to get up and act. What has not been done by many in 2018. And now it will be much harder.
          And this doesn’t need anything, they clung like ticks to Russia's natural resources. And until they are sucked all fall off.
          1. rocket757
            rocket757 April 26 2020 12: 25 New
            +2
            And it depends on us, our life will not just become better if we do not fight for it.
            By the way, some part of the “business” still understands that it should not go on like this! Not because they fell in love with us, but because they stopped loving the authorities, simply because the current situation openly interferes with them, in many aspects. We will not become allies, but the passing current may coincide.
            We will not talk about those who stuck to the state / budgetary feeder, everything is clear and final there. But those who are in "free swimming" have a lot to show up.
            In general, at the initial stage, everyone needs to get together, but remembering the lessons of history ... it is always useful.
            1. NordUral
              NordUral April 26 2020 13: 58 New
              0
              I agree, it’s a pity that there are already many years, but I won’t sit still until I have strength. The main thing is that the opposition leaders come to an agreement and a united front.
              1. Mite
                Mite April 26 2020 14: 07 New
                -1
                Quote: NordUral
                I agree, it’s a pity that there are already many years, but I won’t sit still until I have strength. The main thing is that the opposition leaders come to an agreement and a united front.

                But who is against this .. The bourgeois already got ALL! Nothing good, only crises alone and rob the bastards is already godless .. And they also teach us life and patience in their media. negative
                1. NordUral
                  NordUral April 26 2020 17: 39 New
                  -2
                  They got it, and some vote for these, while others quietly do not resist without coming to the polls. And partly for it.
              2. rocket757
                rocket757 April 26 2020 14: 09 New
                0
                There is no way with the opposition!
                The visible part of this .... fraternity, the nationwide will not be in any way. Even having united, he will be able to represent a small part of the citizens! This is the kind of “trust” they have earned in society and all this by themselves! no power could achieve this b.
                This, of course, is my opinion. Right or wrong, this is not yet known to anyone.
                Real events are needed to understand this. In the meantime, the opposition is either trying to make a mess, or dancing under the flags, which are less and less interesting for the people.
                1. NordUral
                  NordUral April 26 2020 17: 41 New
                  -1
                  Victor, why not try to vote for Grudinin? What did the people risk with his victory? But the country was silent and we have today.
                2. rocket757
                  rocket757 April 26 2020 18: 24 New
                  0
                  Grudinin appeared as .... appeared shorter.
                  There has always been a request for change in society, because it’s not easy for the common people! But again, well, I don’t believe that it is possible to win in our country by giving blah, blah, no matter how pleasant they were, incidentally blaming the authorities on what the light stands.
                  We need real deeds, we need real deeds, we need ... how to express it, and APPEARABLE TO ALL TO DONATION for the sake of an idea, a people, a country!
                  The key here is REAL and visible, also understandable to every ordinary person.
                  The people, society, the mass are inert, and we have all been deceived many times !!! There is also frustration and fear, but will it not get worse.
                  If for simple reasons, daily deeds and actions of various sizes are needed for the sake of the people, society, country. When enough positive matters are gathered, it will surely turn into a positive attitude and the belief that it is OUR and for us.
                  Still need to unite around you, and not set against others.
                  Something like this ... however, this is all described in textbooks and it is surprising that no one will take into account the experience of their ancestors.
                3. NordUral
                  NordUral April 26 2020 18: 58 New
                  -2
                  Victor, and you "village" Grudinina "is not an argument that it works? And it works successfully.
                4. rocket757
                  rocket757 April 26 2020 19: 44 New
                  0
                  The country is not a village, not even a city, even the largest.
                  I don’t even trust any "hell out of the box".
                  Suppose Navalny, a provocateur, but in fact an empty place, but with its HISTORY! Having examined it, we can assume, with a high degree of probability, what can be expected.
                  You can neglect the concept of political struggle, but since the process of leadership of a large country is to a large extent it is, I do not want to see at the head of the country a complete ... hint of humor in this muddy sphere. There is much more to be shown and proved in advance that a mass of voters would believe in a specific figure. Pleasant words alone are not enough.
                  There is a great distrust in society of everyone and everything. It’s difficult to reverse this situation.
                5. NordUral
                  NordUral April 26 2020 20: 33 New
                  -3
                  Victor! KGB lieutenant colonel can rule the country, but not a successful entrepreneur?
                  Lukashenko led either the collective farm or the state farm. And he successfully leads Belarus. I think that he would also successfully lead the Union State, but they didn’t give it, they found it.
                6. rocket757
                  rocket757 April 26 2020 21: 16 New
                  0
                  Other story. GDP was not selected for the highest position in the state. He was PUT IN HIM. You understand, if there were elections, we would have a completely different top. It was later, the SYSTEM worked on his image and he was able to more, less legally establish himself in the top post.
                  The system worked clearly, but we did not manage to tweet! It was so bad for us that the people didn’t want to think about it with either other.
                  I’m not sure that the situation has changed so much, but more and more people began to think about the prospects, and the next generation of voters has grown up !!! And it can be, or rather will be, a big unexpected person for the authorities! They are, for the most part, not their fans!
                7. NordUral
                  NordUral April 26 2020 21: 18 New
                  -2
                  I hope that the children are smarter than us. Us are those who profiled the Union.
                8. rocket757
                  rocket757 April 26 2020 21: 21 New
                  0
                  I do not want to guess. Painfully different events are taking place.
                9. NordUral
                  NordUral April 26 2020 21: 24 New
                  -2
                  Yes, Victor, and some more.

                  You, I think, know about the amendment to the law on police. And fascism is knocking on our yard.
                10. rocket757
                  rocket757 April 26 2020 21: 28 New
                  0
                  Ordinary capitalism, when power and wealth are sunken, do not feel beneath .... nothing but hatred from those whom they rob. They will protect the appropriated.
                  But then again, we released these "servants of the people" upstairs ...
                11. NordUral
                  NordUral April 26 2020 21: 33 New
                  -2
                  I agree, we are to blame, and the murdered country remains for children and grandchildren, young. And I do not want to die with the consciousness of this fact. But how to wake people up? Maybe these will do it themselves. I'll see.
  3. NordUral
    NordUral April 26 2020 17: 47 New
    -2
    No, Victor, changes in the country will be under the red flag.
    Real events will not be delayed - the authorities are trying to give the law enforcement agencies unprecedented rights to suppress any disagreement with its actions.
  4. rocket757
    rocket757 April 26 2020 18: 31 New
    0
    All real events should be REALLY PREPARED !!! They are trying to organize something serious, building their strategy on the next mistakes, schools of power are held, in such a large country, with a very fragmented and inert population ..... empty chores.
    We have to work hard, do real things and ... further on the textbook.
  • September XNUMXrd
    September XNUMXrd April 25 2020 17: 21 New
    -7
    In the Russian Federation, this will not happen soon. Liotech batteries are not suitable, but there are no others. Unless, if they make pedals and an external screw drive for the crew and passengers.
    1. Peter is not the first
      Peter is not the first April 25 2020 19: 45 New
      +2
      I don’t know whether they are suitable or not, but according to one version of the accident at Losharik, a lithium battery from Liotech was ignited. Of course, the information from this of course turns out to be twofold: Firstly, there are shortcomings in the production technology of Russian batteries, and secondly, they are there, and they are used on our submarines, and not just in Japan. Without trial and error, although it hurts, there is no victory.
  • APASUS
    APASUS April 25 2020 17: 23 New
    +1
    Here's a storehouse of ideas for where to invest, for our industry. Miniature power supplies, powerful batteries, steels, alloys and finished products
    1. NordUral
      NordUral April 25 2020 22: 29 New
      -2
      The rotten top of the Russian Federation is not necessary. Rather, on the contrary, or rather, rather, on the contrary.
  • Pashhenko Nikolay
    Pashhenko Nikolay April 25 2020 17: 33 New
    0
    This is how to base it on an atomic boat? And this device is only suitable for a terrorist attack, because how can it be launched from a surface ship 60 miles from the base of a potential enemy? Who will allow it?
    1. Sky strike fighter
      Sky strike fighter April 25 2020 17: 48 New
      +2
      This is clearly demonstrated on the infographic MAPL Virginia at the link below.
      Virginia nuclear submarines are designed to deal with submarines in depth and for coastal operations. In addition to standard armament, the boat also has equipment for special operations - uninhabited underwater vehicles, airlock for light divers, deck mount for a container or a very small submarine.

      https://vpk.name/library/f/virginia-apl.html
    2. NordUral
      NordUral April 25 2020 22: 30 New
      -3
      There are no problems, do what you need. There would be a desire and what to lower.
  • knn54
    knn54 April 25 2020 17: 44 New
    0
    This "Piranha" through intermediaries tried to acquire Pablo Escobar. But the deal fell through
    Even before the war, the OsTechBuro had developed a mini-boat. One of them, captured in the Crimea, simply shocked the Germans and Italians. But all the SECRET documentation was gone.
    And the developer of the Malachite Design Bureau is waiting for VNEU,
    1. Victor67
      Victor67 April 25 2020 18: 09 New
      -3
      Are you thumping? The Finnish option - to get drunk on Friday and smoothly drain until Sunday is very dangerous for health. Better every day a little before dinner ...
      Yes, Pablo Escobar failed in 1993, if that))), the Malachite Design Bureau is waiting for VNEU by mail, in the elderberry garden, and in Kiev - uncle!
    2. Zementbomber
      Zementbomber April 26 2020 01: 05 New
      0
      Even before the war, OsTechBuro had developed a mini-boat. One of them, captured in Crimea, simply shocked the Germans and Italians.

      And even three boats on two projects. And even laid a series of 10 more. But these were torpedo SMPLs (well - a firewall option was also provided). And the “Pygmy” did not make any impression on the Italians. Moreover, it was "gutted" by that time.
  • sergo1914
    sergo1914 April 25 2020 18: 16 New
    +3
    Quote: knn54
    just shocked the Germans


    The creators of Seehund, Hecht, Bieber, Molch?
    1. Simple
      Simple April 26 2020 11: 01 New
      0
      Pablo Escobar's “guests” were softer.
      If the German "guests" a little soften, it is possible and not "just like everyone else" to do.
      smile
  • Pandiurin
    Pandiurin April 25 2020 18: 21 New
    +1
    Quote: September XNUMXrd
    In the Russian Federation, this will not happen soon. Liotech batteries are not suitable, but there are no others. Unless, if they make pedals and an external screw drive for the crew and passengers.


    It seems that there were plans to organize the production of lithium-titanium batteries for urban public transport ...

    Such batteries can be used in different ways.
    Unfortunately, I do not know how these plans ended or in the stage ...
    1. Sky strike fighter
      Sky strike fighter April 25 2020 18: 28 New
      0
      So they sort of cope with special tasks and without a battery. I think it doesn’t matter.
      A year after the delivery of the Yantar research ship to the specialists of the GUGI of the Russian Navy, it accepted one of the most classified nuclear submarines into the fleet. BS-64 “Moscow Region” stood on the stocks of the shipyard for 16 years and during the long reconstruction period turned from a strategic underwater cruiser into a special-purpose submarine. As part of the conversion, the submarine was deprived of the famous "hump" - part of the hull designed to accommodate mines with ballistic missiles, and in its place appeared "compartment for docking" of small-sized deep-sea vehicles.


      Operators in special compartments can use several types of deep-sea vehicles to perform tasks, including both the “light” underwater reconnaissance “Klavesin” and their upgraded version “Klavaysin-2R-PM”, and specialized nuclear-powered deep-sea stations of the 1910 projects Sperm Whale ”, 1851“ Halibut ”and 10831“ Losharik ”.


      detailed information about the K-329 Belgorod crew, for obvious reasons, is not available, the nuclear submarine capable of conducting both reconnaissance and strike missions has already aroused great interest not only among domestic specialists, but also among the American military. Increased attention to the nuclear submarine K-329 is associated primarily with the “payload”.

      http://genocid.net/%D0%B0%D0%BF%D0%BB-%D1%81%D0%BF%D0%B5%D1%86%D0%B8%D0%B0%D0%BB%D1%8C%D0%BD%D0%BE%D0%B3%D0%BE-%D0%BD%D0%B0%D0%B7%D0%BD%D0%B0%D1%87%D0%B5%D0%BD%D0%B8%D1%8F-%D0%BA-329-%D0%B1%D0%B5%D0%BB%D0%B3%D0%BE%D1%80%D0%BE%D0%B4-%D1%83%D1%81%D0%B8%D0%BB%D0%B8%D1%82-%D0%BF%D0%BE%D0%B4%D0%B2%D0%BE%D0%B4%D0%BD%D1%8B%D0%B9-%D1%84%D0%BB%D0%BE%D1%82-%D1%80%D0%BE%D1%81%D1%81%D0%B8%D0%B8-%D0%BE%D1%81%D0%BE%D0%B1%D0%BE%D0%B3%D0%BE-%D0%BD%D0%B0%D0%B7%D0%BD%D0%B0%D1%87%D0%B5%D0%BD%D0%B8%D1%8F/
      1. Aag
        Aag April 25 2020 19: 18 New
        +2
        Ely-Paly, I'm already so old (wise) that I know that I know nothing!
        Among other things, we trade in start-up and charging devices: the dimensions of a smartphone (IP-68, of which type I write BV-6000). I admit, for me (after all, an engineering degree) there was a shock. Charging time (about 1,5 hours), wire cross-section (well, not more than 2,5 mm square.) - starts a diesel engine of 15 liters, a Gazelle gasoline in 20-2 degrees of frost. All without preheating ...
        1. Mordvin 3
          Mordvin 3 April 25 2020 19: 59 New
          -1
          Quote: AAG
          Charge time (about 1,5 hours), wire cross-section (well, no more than 2,5 mm square) - starts a 15-liter diesel engine, a Gazelle gasoline in 20-2 degree frost. Everything without preheating ...

          And I charge for an hour and a half .. sad
          1. Aag
            Aag April 25 2020 20: 00 New
            +1
            Charge what?
            1. Mordvin 3
              Mordvin 3 April 25 2020 20: 01 New
              0
              Quote: AAG
              Charge what?

              The phone ... laughing
              1. Aag
                Aag April 25 2020 20: 07 New
                +1
                I’m less. The question is different: can you start a diesel engine from it? More specifically, about capacity, survivability, battery and controller returns (where now without them)?
                1. Mordvin 3
                  Mordvin 3 April 25 2020 20: 55 New
                  0
                  Quote: AAG
                  Can you make a diesel engine from him?

                  I can do it. He worked as a mechanic for 12 years at the ZiL branch.
                  1. Aag
                    Aag April 25 2020 21: 34 New
                    +2
                    Do not share your experience?
                    Call on the smartphone smartphone, do not offer! drinks
                    1. Mordvin 3
                      Mordvin 3 April 25 2020 21: 36 New
                      0
                      Quote: AAG
                      Do not share your experience?

                      Easy. I’m a bridge-cabinman.
                      1. Aag
                        Aag April 25 2020 21: 42 New
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                        I’ll clarify the question. How to launch amperes into the wires (conductors) of the missing section. Maybe I missed it, Ohm’s law was also reset?
                      2. Mordvin 3
                        Mordvin 3 April 25 2020 21: 48 New
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                        How to launch the amperes into the wires (conductors) of the missing section.

                        I was not an electrician. More precisely, but not at all.
                      3. Alexander mosin
                        Alexander mosin April 26 2020 01: 35 New
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                        A maximum of 2,5 mm wire can withstand about 20 A at 230 Volts. To start something should be enough.
                      4. Aag
                        Aag April 26 2020 06: 38 New
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                        "A maximum of 2,5mm wire can withstand about 20A at 230 Volts."
                        A single-core copper wire with a cross-section of 2,5 mm square (VVG 2 * 2,5), this is how the sockets in residential buildings are recorded, nominally holds 25 A. It is accordingly protected by a 25 A automatic machine. The starting current of the car starter is an order of magnitude (in ten times) more. It's at least ...
                      5. Grim Reaper
                        Grim Reaper April 26 2020 07: 11 New
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                        Quote: AAG
                        "A maximum of 2,5mm wire can withstand about 20A at 230 Volts."
                        A single-core copper wire with a cross-section of 2,5 mm square (VVG 2 * 2,5), this is how the sockets in residential buildings are recorded, nominally holds 25 A. It is accordingly protected by a 25 A automatic machine. The starting current of the car starter is an order of magnitude (in ten times) more. It's at least ...

                        Correct you. 2.5 a current of 100-150 A will calmly stand out. When turned on for a few tens of seconds. Then, of course, to dust.
                        And by the way, VVG, two-core, 2.5 holds up to 21. When laying is not not in the air. At this temperature increase is allowed up to 80 degrees. Why, so far, the saying is kept among electric shocks: “square per kilowatt” True, I have worked in the last 15 years (6) on 10-110-XNUMX. And we have slightly different sayings. But you will not understand them.
                      6. Aag
                        Aag April 26 2020 16: 25 New
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                        "... by the way, VVG, two-core, 2.5 holds up to 21"
                        You are mistaken: 21A, this is for three-core. Two single-core-27A ...
                        "But you will not understand them."
                        Maybe. But I would not say so categorically. Not long ago, but the 4th group was over 1000V.
                      7. Alexander mosin
                        Alexander mosin April 27 2020 16: 04 New
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                        You are mistaken: 21A, this is for three-core. Two single-core-27A.

                        What is the difference how many vein? The machines are placed on each separate wire, if it is 5 to 2,5, for example, where 3 are phases, 1 neutral and 1 ground. At 3 vein 1 phase. At 2,5mm in Germany they put 20A, and in Switzerland 16A. Machine guns at 21, or 27A have never seen in 25 years.
                      8. Aag
                        Aag April 27 2020 20: 17 New
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                        "What's the difference how many vein?"
                        Sometimes it’s significant. The way of laying (open, in the pipe, wound), the conductor itself (the composition of copper, according to GOST or TU is roughly determined by its flexibility) ... That is, there are a lot of factors. To your question, the number of wires affects mutual heating under load.
                        As for circuit breakers in different countries. Did I write about circuit breakers on 21,27A? I got the data from the tables with SNIP, PUE ... And then the task of designers, installers so that the calculated load of the wire, cable does not fall below the threshold of devices protection ... We had a batch of heat guns of 3 kW-x. There, 3 * 63A submachine guns went as protection and TEN switches! That is, what a lot (by the way, these submachines often burned out, burned out, at full serviceability of two heating elements of 1,5kW which they switched, protected).
                      9. Alexander mosin
                        Alexander mosin April 27 2020 20: 41 New
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                        What does it mean sometimes?)) In electrical engineering there are no such concepts, everything is strictly laid out there, and the safety regulations, as we know, are written in blood. I didn’t ask you any questions, because I have a German diploma and 25 years of experience. You did not understand what I wrote to you, I meant that a flexible 2,5mm can withstand more A than solid. It is not clear what you meant by 3 * 63A, did you mean the machine so that the cable does not burn out, or Fi, knocking out with an error of 30mA? If the cable was heated, and then the Machine was knocked out, this is one problem and most likely we are talking about the Machine 3 * 63A, it is 5 * 16mm flexible, or 5 * 25mm should be solid. If it simply knocks out, although the cables are quite thick and do not heat up, then what about Fi? 1,5kW for 63A and did they fly out ??
                      10. Aag
                        Aag April 28 2020 07: 10 New
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                        "... What's the difference how much vein?"
                        Isn't that a question?
                        Sometimes, it means that under some conditions this will not be critical, under others it will. I hope that having 25 years of experience, you will agree with me. Although a German diploma may not allow you to do this wink (Soviet diploma, 40 years of practice) ...
                        Having written about the Avomat at 63A (not differential automata (!) - why are you writing about 30mA?), I just wanted to say that in our realities, the Chinese do not bother with “safety regulations”, and just common sense. it was on hand: three automatic machines of 63A each (1-fan, 2-TEN 1,5kW, 3-TEN 1,5kW). Moreover, the machine was of such filthy quality that it simply burned out (the terminals were normally tightened).
                        Yes, and let's distinguish a stranded wire from a lot of wire (which you call flexible).
            2. Alexander mosin
              Alexander mosin April 27 2020 15: 59 New
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              I wonder what puts the cons? On 2,5mm in Germany they put 20A automatic machines, in Switzerland in general 16A. At 25A, 2,5mm wire, if it is solid, will burn, 25 to 230 is more than 5KV !! Electricity is not a toy, and there is nothing for any "craftsmen" to do there, for 25 years it has seen enough. Starting current is of course an order of magnitude greater, but the voltage is 20 times lower.
            3. Aag
              Aag April 28 2020 08: 04 New
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              "Starting current is of course an order of magnitude greater, but the voltage is 20 times lower."
              The voltage, in this case (when starting the engine), does not bother us much, the insulation will not break (12 or 24V). The main thing is that it doesn’t break below certain limits. But just for this we need conductors of a larger cross section, and, if possible shorter length.
              I had a chance to “light” the MAZ-7917. KG cables (I don’t remember the cross-sections, but the diameter is comparable to the diameter of the tow rope), the length (forced) is more than 25 meters. An impressive sight is how these two “snots” repel each other! Not every fighter will hold . hi
  • NordUral
    NordUral April 25 2020 22: 33 New
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    I recently saw an electric bus in St. Petersburg, the batteries look like on the roof (route 128), maybe they are testing it
  • Mwg
    Mwg April 25 2020 19: 18 New
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    Is he covered with dermantine with wallpaper cloves? )))))))))))))
    1. Mordvin 3
      Mordvin 3 April 25 2020 20: 00 New
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      dermantin wallpaper studs studded?

      Foreign and provocation ...
    2. Mordvin 3
      Mordvin 3 April 25 2020 21: 38 New
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      Quote: MVG
      Is he covered with dermantine with wallpaper cloves? )

      Somehow they sent ZIL to Cuba. While swam, the entire lining screwed up.
  • Aag
    Aag April 25 2020 21: 55 New
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    [quote = AAG] I am less. The question is different: can you start a diesel engine from it?

    Why then intrigue:
    "Easy"?
    1. Mordvin 3
      Mordvin 3 April 25 2020 21: 57 New
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      Can you make a diesel engine from him?

      Of course I can.
      1. Aag
        Aag April 25 2020 22: 01 New
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        Still keep the intrigue! ...
    2. Aag
      Aag April 25 2020 22: 00 New
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      In general, I was hoping to read about combat swimmers in an article. What and how, where, plan to do ...
      To drill the bottoms of tankers with Russian, or what other oil?
      1. Mordvin 3
        Mordvin 3 April 25 2020 22: 06 New
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        Quote: AAG
        In general, I was hoping to read about combat swimmers in an article. What and how, where, plan to do ...

        I can recommend it. A. Negrivoda. "Swat against pirates."
        1. Aag
          Aag April 25 2020 22: 07 New
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          Thank you. Is it about ours, or about cats?
          1. Mordvin 3
            Mordvin 3 April 25 2020 22: 10 New
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            Is it about ours, or about cats?

            Yes, this is about ours. How the Americans failed them.
            1. Aag
              Aag April 25 2020 22: 11 New
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              Thanks again, if I have the time I’ll look. hi
              1. Mordvin 3
                Mordvin 3 April 25 2020 22: 14 New
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                Thanks again, if I have the time I’ll look. hi

                There, Americans overwhelmed all our seals. One left. When lifting a torpedo.
  • Charik
    Charik April 25 2020 23: 10 New
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    I don’t understand where the article went, a couple of days ago was about the fact that everything is bad with torpedo weapons in our fleet?
    1. beeper
      beeper April 26 2020 00: 48 New
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      Quote: Charik
      I don’t understand where the article went, a couple of days ago was about the fact that everything is bad with torpedo weapons in our fleet?

      hi Charik, the article you were looking for was titled "When will the Russian Navy get modern torpedoes?" winked
      If yes, then look for it in the VO - Armament section, April 23, 2020.
      1. Charik
        Charik April 26 2020 14: 25 New
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        He finds through the search, as well as news and opinions, I flipped through everything, I don’t see
        1. beeper
          beeper April 26 2020 14: 56 New
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          https://topwar.ru/170507-kogda-rossijskij-vmf-poluchit-sovremennye-torpedy.html
          hi Just in the VO menu, open not the "News" section, but the section Armament and an article about torpedoes (after all, the very first thing that comes to mind: torpedoes are weapons!) there, as I wrote to you yesterday. smile
          And it could be in the "Analytics" section or in some other, for example, in the sections "Opinion", "History", ...! yes
  • Charik
    Charik April 25 2020 23: 12 New
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    Lithium-ion Fault Tolerant-tolerant batteries or what?
    1. VicktorVR
      VicktorVR April 26 2020 11: 02 New
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      Tolerance seems to have initially meant tolerance. Not to anything specific, but in general.
      Here it’s rather “broken off” -resistant :)
  • Zementbomber
    Zementbomber April 26 2020 00: 58 New
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    To the author - DOWN. negative This is no longer a transporter. This is a transport submarine launch launch vehicle. A completely different - and much higher - level.
  • Allegro
    Allegro April 26 2020 10: 41 New
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    Interesting of course. So big and for 2 people. So I understand the rest of the "divers" just cling.
    Only 60 miles, very little for that size (one way 30) i.e. they unloaded from NK, and already everyone saw you. More like an evacuation tool after a quest
  • VicktorVR
    VicktorVR April 26 2020 11: 00 New
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    BTR underwater. It looks like a killer whale. But rivets / screws on the "face" spoil all the beauty :)