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In Finland, they tried to justify the creation of concentration camps in Karelia during the war

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In Finland, they tried to justify the creation of concentration camps in Karelia during the war

In Finland, they tried to justify the creation by the Finnish occupation authorities of concentration camps in Karelia during the Great Patriotic War. The newspaper Ilta-Sanomat came out with the appropriate material.


The publication published an interview with Finnish historian Antti Layne, who claims that Russia, which published declassified materials about Finnish concentration camps in Karelia, where the local population was destroyed, "is trying to rewrite history".

They want to make of the Finns fascists who fought on the side of Germany, and for this we need evidence, that is, the history is rewritten again

- he said.

In turn, the author of the publication, Pasi Yaakkonen, stated that the actions of the Finns in Karelia were very different from the actions of the "German invaders", since almost half of the population of Karelia had Finnish roots, which means "they were better treated than Russians." And the goal of creating "internment camps" was not the extermination of people, but the fear that "the Russians would create partisan detachments."

The fact is that out of 83 thousand inhabitants of East Karelia more than half, that is 41 thousand people, had Finnish roots. (...) Camps were created out of fear that the Russian population could start partisan activities and sabotage

- he writes.

In turn, the historian Leine adds that although the Finns divided the population of the occupied territories on a national basis, it "cannot be compared with the massacres of the population by the Nazis."

As follows from declassified documents, in all, in the territory of Karelia, occupied by the Finns during 1941-1944, several dozen camps were created, which contained about 50 thousand people, 90% of which had Slavic roots (Russians, Belarusians, Ukrainians).

On the fact of the massacre of the civilian population of Karelia by the Finnish invaders during the Great Patriotic War, the Investigative Committee of Russia opened a criminal case.
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  1. Observer2014
    Observer2014 April 25 2020 13: 57 New
    -68
    In Finland, they tried to justify the creation of concentration camps in Karelia during the war
    In Russia, many people support retirement genocide. Even sparks fly from under the hooves. And what does this mean? This does not mean that all Finns are bad. This suggests just the opposite. yesMore terrible and more misfortune and horror than Russian to Russian, no one has ever done harm.
    1. sanek45744
      sanek45744 April 25 2020 15: 06 New
      18
      Well, judging by the profile picture, you do not live in Russia and also an empty phrase that does not show anything other than your stupid brain.
      1. Aibolit
        Aibolit April 26 2020 04: 05 New
        -18
        Well, judging by the profile picture, you do not live in Russia and also an empty phrase

        Judging by your opinion, you are a Kremlin boat from the Cahors of the cook Putin, Moodle, I mean.
        Hmmm. The “observer” is definitely not living in the USA ... it’s just that the mutants / occupiers of our homeland do not even have a Mosscoff for traffic analysis.
        Who paid you the highest salary?
        Паси Яакконен заявил, что действия финнов на территории Карелии сильно отличались от действий "немецких оккупантов",

        Citizen of the USSR, Russia T *** Nina (deceased already)
        1. Faina Occupants Cured Teeth
        2. Received a pension as a child of war; subjected to occupation and former in a concentration camp ...
        Мама, моя, ровесница оной Нине: только в 5 лет смогла на ноги встать: БЛОКАДА - <!--filter:-->блин<!--/filter-->. И Зубы СОВЕТСКАЯ, не окупанты финские, власть не лечила...
        Stupid brain (ganglion) is your mutant / occupant of my motherland ...
        1. Mordvin 3
          Mordvin 3 April 26 2020 04: 10 New
          +4
          Quote: Aibolit
          And the SOVIET Teeth, not Finnish invaders, the authorities did not heal ...

          Uh ... Dentists were in the first grade. Then he repaired his mother’s teeth at the enterprise. Is free. I just walked by and went in. This is in the USSR. And they inserted yes, for a fee.
        2. sanek45744
          sanek45744 April 26 2020 04: 34 New
          +5
          and judging by your writings you are down!
    2. tarakan
      tarakan April 25 2020 15: 47 New
      +7
      Умник "наблюдаель" приедь в Латвию и посмотри на наших пенсионеров,сбежишь обратно
      1. Observer2014
        Observer2014 April 25 2020 15: 53 New
        -36
        Quote: tarakan
        Умник "наблюдаель" приедь в Латвию и посмотри на наших пенсионеров,сбежишь обратно

        Also a role model for me. Will there be any offers from Sweden, for example, and other normal socially arranged countries? I’m leaving with pleasure! And it makes you sick with your favorite examples. laughingLast year they threw off my wife’s girlfriend who left for Watsap. They brought home the Spanish Red Cross! For a week. There is my monthly salary. Pursue me to death.
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        2. sanek45744
          sanek45744 April 25 2020 16: 27 New
          +8
          . Ahahah damn who needs you loser, what would you minus only dirty hands on shit. Such shit as you are in the same Switzerland is full, so you will rot in the lead to the end of the day because no one loves traitors.
        3. gvozdan
          gvozdan April 25 2020 16: 29 New
          11
          ready to sell home for cookies and jam? bad boy?
        4. PalBor
          PalBor April 25 2020 17: 28 New
          +8
          If you had seen what social packs we distribute to children from families with eligibility for benefits in our school, you would probably have changed your age and pretended to be a disabled person, judging by the mercantile spirit. Change the flag to two-color, it's time to get out of the shadow.
          1. 17085
            17085 April 25 2020 23: 19 New
            +7
            I am not poor. My family, unfortunately, is not large. My youngest was given rations in kindergarten. I was a little surprised. Not at all trifles. Three boxes clogged with cereals, canned goods, long-term storage milk of 5 liters, juice of 5 liters, I don’t remember how many Nakhodka herring (nobody eats it except me), pasta (well, it’s small loves). The second week in the store only for greens, but I go with fruits.
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        7. ANB
          ANB April 26 2020 15: 32 New
          +2
          . What did the Spanish Red Cross bring them home! For a week. There is my monthly salary.

          Do you have such a small salary?
          1. Mordvin 3
            Mordvin 3 April 26 2020 22: 27 New
            -1
            Quote: ANB
            Do you have such a small salary?

            My salary was twenty times more than the main.
            1. ANB
              ANB April 27 2020 01: 21 New
              0
              . My salary was twenty times more than the main.

              So you compared it with your white part?
              If I buy food for my white, then in a quarter we will not eat so much with the whole family. And there are five of us. Unless, if you buy black caviar. But, I doubt that there was black caviar in the Spanish ration.
    3. zombirusrev
      zombirusrev April 26 2020 21: 30 New
      0
      Читаем книгу А.Дюкова "За что сражались советские люди." и умнеем ...если не сможете тогда к доктору.
  2. svp67
    svp67 April 25 2020 14: 00 New
    34
    They want to make of the Finns fascists who fought on the side of Germany, and for this we need evidence, that is, the history is rewritten again
    - he said.
    В данном случае "переписыванием" занимается данный "историк", но как бы он не старался "черного кобеля не отмыть добела"...
    And in this aspect, the story with a sign in memory of Mannerheim becomes more and more perverted
    1. Insurgent
      Insurgent April 25 2020 14: 16 New
      25
      Quote: svp67
      В данном случае "переписыванием" занимается данный "историк", но как бы он не старался "черного кобеля не отмыть добела"...
      And in this aspect, the story with a sign in memory of Mannerheim becomes more and more perverted


      WITHOUT LIMITATION
      Quote: Learn Colonel Cassad
      The Investigative Committee of the Russian Federation on Finnish war crimes in the USSR.
      Based on the results of the procedural verification and study of archival materials about the mass killings of civilians during the Great Patriotic War in the territory of the Republic of Karelia, a criminal case was opened on the grounds of a crime under Art. 357 of the Criminal Code (genocide).

      It was established that after the invasion of the Karelian-Finnish SSR, the command of the occupying forces and the occupation administration created at least 14 concentration camps designed to contain the ethnic Russian population, living conditions, food standards and labor obligations in which were incompatible with life.

      During the occupation of the region from 1941 to 1944, at least 24 people were detained in these camps, of whom at least 000 civilians died, including more than 8 children, more than 000 prisoners of war were buried alive, put to death in gas chambers, and shot.

      At present, more than 2 former juvenile prisoners of Finnish concentration camps, who are direct witnesses of the atrocities of the German-Finnish invaders, live in Karelia.
      Currently, investigators are carrying out the necessary investigative actions aimed at restoring all the circumstances of the crimes, archival materials attesting to the commission of war crimes and crimes against humanity against the civilian population are being carefully studied.

      The Investigative Committee will continue to continue work aimed at recording and investigating crimes committed by the Nazis during the Great Patriotic War against the peaceful Soviet population. Not a single crime based on the criminal ideas of hatred and racial superiority, even after such a long time, will go unnoticed and unpunished. These crimes are without statute of limitations.

      The official representative of the IC of Russia S. Petrenko

      https://sledcom.ru/news/item/1457585/ - цинк

      This is what happens, now they will not hang Mannerheim memorial boards?

      Well, well, the change in rhetoric is certainly pleasing, instead of trying to succumb to the Finns with the glorification of Mannerheim, now the criminal cases of genocide and the German-Finnish invaders in official statements. Not bad.
      Maybe in a number of other historical issues, the snot will stop chewing and will call a spade a spade.
      It can also be noted that of the state agencies, it is the Investigative Committee more often than others that pleases with harsh rhetoric on historical issues and at least some tough position is visible that, frankly speaking, is far from always manifested in the rhetoric of authorities when it is really needed.
      1. Maks1995
        Maks1995 April 25 2020 21: 12 New
        -9
        Did the Finns have gas chambers? Horror
        1. 17085
          17085 April 25 2020 23: 28 New
          +6
          Quote: Max1995
          Did the Finns have gas chambers? Horror

          No, what are you. Where are the Finns and where is Cyclone B.
          Rather, saunas with blocked ventilation, but more often with axes, knives and hands ... Even those who fled from the Bolsheviks got it. Indeed, those camps ended up without trial or investigation, on a national basis.
          1. zombirusrev
            zombirusrev April 26 2020 21: 33 New
            0
            Even the Poles got it during the Vyborg massacre .. you rejoiced to get out that the Russians were being cut and themselves fell under the knife. Finns slaughtered landed with the Germans and fought during World War I on their side.
      2. boss
        boss April 25 2020 23: 14 New
        +2
        I’m curious, why, right now, the documents about the crimes and concentration camps of the Finns were brought into the light and even EXITED THE CASE, 80 years have passed, just in case!
        New data appeared?
        Why just now ???
        Explain who is in the know.
        Ответы из серии "эти преступления без срока давности", не принимаются, о них было известно изначально.
        It turns out that 80 years of Finns covered?
        What were you waiting for ???
        1. orionvitt
          orionvitt April 26 2020 12: 41 New
          +3
          Quote: patron
          80 years have passed, just in case!

          The Finns were the first to stir up the past in an attempt to justify their crimes. Under the Union, this issue did not arise, remembering that Finland had prematurely withdrawn from the war (managed hard), which accelerated the rout of the Red Army and the Germans in the north. They would sit silently, like Romanians, so no, the Baltic ambition rushing. By the way, the issue of war crimes has not been resolved not only with the Finns, but also with the Hungarians, Romanians and the rest, allies of Nazi Germany.
  3. figwam
    figwam April 25 2020 14: 01 New
    +8
    А целью создания "лагерей для интернированных лиц" было не уничтожение людей, а страх, что "русские создадут партизанские отряды".

    They entered into partisan detachments voluntarily, because for the Russian people, the Finns were invaders.
    1. Vend
      Vend April 25 2020 14: 47 New
      +4
      Quote: figvam
      А целью создания "лагерей для интернированных лиц" было не уничтожение людей, а страх, что "русские создадут партизанские отряды".

      They entered into partisan detachments voluntarily, because for the Russian people, the Finns were invaders.

      With such Finnish rhetoric, Hitler will soon begin to justify.
    2. orionvitt
      orionvitt April 26 2020 12: 43 New
      0
      Quote: figvam
      that for the Russian people, the Finns were invaders

      For the Soviet. And there is already someone Finn, who is Russian, the story spread out.
  4. cost
    cost April 25 2020 14: 03 New
    13
    In total, at least 14 concentration camps for the civilian population were created in the occupied territory of Karelia, not counting the camps for prisoners of war. By the end of 1941, there were about 20 thousand people in them. By April 1942, the number of prisoners reached 24 thousand people, which amounted to about 27% of the total population in the zone of occupation.
  5. fruit_cake
    fruit_cake April 25 2020 14: 04 New
    15
    need to prove that they fought on the side of the Germans? yes he’s sick on his head
  6. Altona
    Altona April 25 2020 14: 05 New
    26
    Не удивлюсь, если завтра прочитаю, что "Наполеон и Гитлер вторгались в Россию с чисто гуманистическими целями". И конечно, финские лахтари резали пленных красноармейцев на лоскуты чисто из "гуманных соображений".
    "Всяк другого мнит уродом, несмотря, что сам у род". Леонид Филатов
    1. tihonmarine
      tihonmarine April 25 2020 14: 23 New
      +5
      Quote: Altona
      Не удивлюсь, если завтра прочитаю, что "Наполеон и Гитлер вторгались в Россию с чисто гуманистическими целями".

      I won’t be surprised either.
      1. novel66
        novel66 April 25 2020 15: 45 New
        +9
        but nothing has changed - are the Americans bombing in vain? no, democracy is
    2. Alexey RA
      Alexey RA April 27 2020 14: 29 New
      0
      Quote: Altona
      Не удивлюсь, если завтра прочитаю, что "Наполеон и Гитлер вторгались в Россию с чисто гуманистическими целями".

      Pffff ... this could be read even in 1942:
      At the same time, Germany is not waging a war against the Russian people and their homeland, but only against Bolshevism. Germany does not encroach on the living space of the Russian people and their national-political freedom. National Socialist Germany Adolf Hitler sets as his task the organization of a New Europe without Bolsheviks and capitalists, in which each nation will be given an honorable place.
      © Vlasov / Malyshkin
      1. Altona
        Altona April 27 2020 14: 59 New
        0
        Quote: Alexey RA
        Pffff ... this could be read even in 1942:

        -----------------------
        Как бы есть нюансы. Процитированное вами печаталось в рамках геббельсовской пропаганды от лица Третьего Райха и Адольфа Гитлера. Потом был разгром гитлеровской Германии и Нюрнбергский трибунал, осудивший немецкий нацизм, его институты и организации. То есть приведенное вами было "условно" Западом осуждено и сегодня снова поднято на щит, тем самым подтверждая, что Гитлер был продуктом Запада и его идеология является составной частью идеологии капитализма.
  7. strelokmira
    strelokmira April 25 2020 14: 06 New
    -4
    Adopt a law to counter the manifestation of fascism in order not to repeat the Second World War. And send troops to the Finns, that's all.
    1. cost
      cost April 25 2020 14: 08 New
      22
      There is a fairly well-known photograph: children behind barbed wire. Above their heads is a sign with the inscription in Finnish and Russian: “Migration camp. Entering the camp and talking through the wire is prohibited under the threat of execution. ” The most disgusting thing is that it is this photo of the little prisoners of the Finnish concentration camp that they periodically try to pass off as photos ... of young Gulag prisoners.
      1. novel66
        novel66 April 25 2020 15: 46 New
        -7
        not justifying bestiality - well, at least they don’t seem to be starving
        1. kjhg
          kjhg April 25 2020 22: 15 New
          +4
          But more than 2 thousand children from which the same died? From diseases?
          1. Mordvin 3
            Mordvin 3 April 25 2020 22: 19 New
            0
            Quote: kjhg
            From diseases?

            I somehow went to a Finnish site. They condole with ours. They say they didn’t want to ...
            1. kjhg
              kjhg April 25 2020 22: 25 New
              +1
              Normal people are everywhere. The history of the confrontation with the Finns in Karelia and near Leningrad began long before the Second World War. There are a lot of skeletons in the closets both with us and the Finns. So that..
              1. Mordvin 3
                Mordvin 3 April 25 2020 22: 30 New
                -3
                Quote: kjhg
                There are a lot of skeletons in the closets both with us and the Finns. So that..

                Somehow I read a Finnish work about the First World War. So here. He wrote that the Red Army did not win, and the Finns did not lose. The score is zero.
                1. Nyrobsky
                  Nyrobsky April 25 2020 23: 25 New
                  +4
                  Quote: mordvin xnumx
                  Quote: kjhg
                  There are a lot of skeletons in the closets both with us and the Finns. So that..

                  Somehow I read a Finnish work about the First World War. So here. He wrote that the Red Army did not win, and the Finns did not lose. The score is zero.

                  In World War I they were part of the Russian Empire when the Red Army was not in sight. Where does the zero score come from? Something beyond the world drives the Finnish writer ...
                  1. Mordvin 3
                    Mordvin 3 April 25 2020 23: 47 New
                    0
                    Quote: Nyrobsky
                    Where does the zero score come from? Something beyond the world drives the Finnish writer ...

                    Look how far he crawled away. Under the nails there is still earth.
                    - It’s not painful that they take care of their own. Looks like they left alive.
                    - Strong guy. Ten meters in his hands crawled.
                    Soldiers with serious faces stood around the dead, looking at him, then Rakhikainen tapped the helmet with his rifle barrel and said:
                    - Hello! Well, tell me, it’s cold in Russian in hell!
                    Vanhala looked around, very few smiled, and he also held back a laugh. Rahikainen began to remove the insignia from the dead.
                    Page 29 from 162
                    “I'll take them.”
                    - Give me one.
                    - Hell no! Too small rank, not enough for everyone. Wait until the larger birds play in the crate.
                    Others made grimaces, but the red plates had already disappeared in Rakhikainen's wallet.
                    “If anyone can prove that he killed him, then I'll give it back.” And better not ask.
                    There were no applicants, and Rakhikainen retained the records. But the initial timidity was already overcome. One of the soldiers took the belt, a beautiful new command belt. Turned out pockets. They found a leather case in which there was a toothbrush, a comb, a set of nail files and a bottle with cologne.
                    Hietanen generously sprinkled cologne on the dirty soldiers' tunics, and they laughed like children. One of the soldiers wagged backwards and said:
                    - Take the line. Two hundred from the nose.
                    Another smeared the cologne with a dirty five over his face.

                    Это "Неизвестный солдат"
            2. zombirusrev
              zombirusrev April 26 2020 21: 35 New
              0
              If not for the Germans, then in Finland the Reds would have won, as in the Baltic states, Hungary, etc.
      2. Alex Justice
        Alex Justice April 26 2020 18: 56 New
        0
        Are the children partisans too?
        1. zombirusrev
          zombirusrev April 26 2020 21: 36 New
          0
          There, on a purely ethnic basis, they were kept until they were transferred to the Germans. And there the Germans were going to either kill, or overtake on foot beyond the Urals.
  8. AU Ivanov.
    AU Ivanov. April 25 2020 14: 10 New
    17
    The Finns atrocities worse than the Germans, against civilians.
  9. IC
    IC April 25 2020 14: 11 New
    -32
    Why, in 75 years? Maybe due to the fact that none of the participants in the events was left.
    And where are the actions of the TFR on the victims on the other side of the border. For example, the construction of the Belomorkanal?
    TFR should continue this practice. Things do not turn around. To Batu, the Poles and the French for the occupation of Moscow, etc.
    1. aleks_29296
      aleks_29296 April 25 2020 16: 56 New
      +2
      Regarding Batu, not a ride. There Ukraine monopolized this topic.
    2. Moore
      Moore April 26 2020 06: 09 New
      +2
      Quote: IMS
      Why, in 75 years?

      Statute of limitations, political expediency, be it wrong? No, we didn’t hear ... We are only aware of GULAG.
      Something will happen when people with quivering hearts and good faces learn about how Stalin appointed the frogs to be the victors of fascism, and handed the Order of Victory to the Romanian Mihai ...
  10. knn54
    knn54 April 25 2020 14: 12 New
    12
    Order No. 132.

    "П.4.. «Ненациональное» население должно было быть сосредоточено в ОПРЕДЕЛЕННЫХ местах, чтобы впоследствии подвергнуться насильственному выселению в районы СССР, оккупированные Германией".
    “Kindred peoples” were understood as Karelians, local Finns, Ingermanlanders, Vepsians, Estonians, Mordovians. The rest of the peoples (and primarily the Russians) fell into the "non-national" population.
    Signed by Karl Mannerheim.
    PS After the victory at Stalingrad, the number of dying in concentration camps began to decrease.
    1. Deck
      Deck April 25 2020 18: 43 New
      -9
      In the spring of 1935, an operation to evict Ingermanland Finns was carried out in the border regions of the Leningrad Region and Karelia. The operation was carried out at the direction of the People's Commissar of Internal Affairs G. G. Yagoda. The total number of Ingermanlanders deported in 1935-1936 is estimated at 26-27 thousand people.
      By the decree of the Military Council of the Leningrad Front No. 196ss dated August 26, 1941, the Finnish and German population of the suburban areas of Leningrad were subject to mandatory evacuation to the Komi Autonomous Soviet Socialist Republic and the Arkhangelsk Region. A total of 44 Ingermanlanders were evicted, of which 737 were placed in the Krasnoyarsk Territory, 17 in the Irkutsk Region, 837 in the Yakut Autonomous Soviet Socialist Republic, 8267 in the Omsk Region, and the rest in the Vologda and Kirov Regions.
      Currently, there are no Finns left on the Karelian Isthmus. Generally.
      Hello to all indignant lovers to delve into the past. By the way, the Finnish archives are open, unlike ours.
      1. Albert1988
        Albert1988 April 25 2020 19: 34 New
        -3
        Quote: Deck
        Currently, there are no Finns left on the Karelian Isthmus. Generally.

        Eye for eye, tooth for tooth, as they say ...
        1. Torak
          Torak April 26 2020 05: 38 New
          +3
          Well this is a lie. There is also, not so much as in the USSR, but there are. Under the USSR, there was generally darkness. And now they are gone because Finland, starting in 90, lured them to a rich life. Bonuses were given such that they couldn’t even dream of local finals .. I know this process in detail. About how Germany accepted Jews. By the way, there was an interesting process. If you are a German who wants to return to Germany, you are a person of the 4th grade! The attitude was terrible! If the Jewish carpet. In the second place were repatriates, then victims of violence.
      2. not main
        not main April 25 2020 22: 00 New
        +5
        Quote: Deck
        Currently, there are no Finns left on the Karelian Isthmus. Generally.

        Совершенно верно! Но вот только по другой причине! Всё дело в том, что все кто хоть как то приближается к"великим финнам" по крови уже давно свалили в Финляндию! Просто Финляндия это северный Израиль! Говорю не голословно, просто я здесь живу.
      3. zombirusrev
        zombirusrev April 26 2020 21: 43 New
        0
        Это чтобы мы не стали всех бывших пособников нацистов вдруг резать. Именно по этому бындеровцев судили на закрытых судах ,как и других кАлобрантов. Ибо если бы сразу после войны открыли архивов, то к примеру некоторых народов бы не было бы уже ибо пришедшие фронтовики бы позаботились об этом.опять же читаем книгу А.Дюкова "За что сражались советские люди."..к примеру фраз "Зимнее волшебство." ни о чем не говорит?
  11. Vladimir_2U
    Vladimir_2U April 25 2020 14: 20 New
    10
    that although the Finns divided the population of the occupied territories on a national basis
    Вообще то лишение свободы по национальному признаку, это один из признаков геноцида. Впрочем то что финны были нацистами, пусть и не все и так ясно. И довоенная Финляндия была тем "колодцем" в который не то что плюнуть, навалить и забетонировать смело можно было.
    1. Siberian
      Siberian April 25 2020 15: 21 New
      +9
      Why were you? Who are they now? Internationalists. Just for a long time no one shook them. They sat in silence, but mischief. Look and listen to their journalists - poisonous saliva - a fountain !!
    2. Deck
      Deck April 25 2020 20: 01 New
      -11
      In general, imprisonment on a national basis is one of the signs of genocide.


      I agree completely. Read the Resolution of the Military Council of the Leningrad Front No. 196ss of August 26, 1941. about the expulsion of the Finns from the besieged Leningrad. 28 thousand in 1942. On the branch above, look. How is righteous anger boiling up there?
      1. Vladimir_2U
        Vladimir_2U April 25 2020 20: 36 New
        +6
        Quote: Deck
        How is righteous anger boiling up there?
        Not really:


        c) explain to the evacuated population that they should bring food (up to 200 kg per family), bedding, linen, shoes, winter clothes, small household utensils (dishes, buckets, knives, forks, etc.); d) small agricultural implements (saw, ax, shovel, etc.). The total weight of baggage (including food) should not exceed 600 kg;
        g) in loading places, allot special premises for evacuated persons for a period of time prior to the supply of vehicles (s); organize trade in food, boiling water, and medical care.

        https://gedenkbuch.rusdeutsch.ru/upload/files/arhivnye_materialy/Deportatsia/038.pdf
        Something I do not recall such concern from the Finns.
        Well, if you turn on the mind, then the Finns and Germans were evacuated FROM the war and its dangers and deprivations. And certainly not in the camps.
        1. Deck
          Deck April 25 2020 21: 07 New
          -11
          Well, if you turn on the mind, then the Finns and Germans were evacuated FROM the war and its dangers and deprivations. And certainly not in the camps.


          Of course not to camps:

          On December 14, 1937, the NKVD Directive on the spread of repression on the so-called “Latvian line” to the Finns was issued. On January 31, 1938, the Politburo of the Central Committee of the All-Union Communist Party of Bolsheviks passed a resolution on the extension of the "operation to smash spy-sabotage contingents" from national minorities, including Finns. On one day, November 1, 1938, 87 Finns were shot in Leningrad “on ethnic grounds”. A total of 10 people were convicted under the “Finnish line”

          Something I do not recall such concern from the Finns


          Something I also do not remember. But you turn on the mind now and come up with something.
          1. Dart
            Dart April 25 2020 23: 08 New
            +1
            so what ... it’s your answer for the White Finns .. you were the first to start ... you didn’t sit well under the tsar, you decided to kick back .. you still regretted, you didn’t drive them to the camps ..
            1. Deck
              Deck April 26 2020 07: 07 New
              -5
              History began as much after the revolution, solely for the struggle for the cause of the proletariat. without any nationalism:
              In the spring of 1919, in the Russian part of the Karelian Isthmus, on the initiative of the Finnish section of the Petrograd Provincial Committee of the RCP (B.), A campaign began to mobilize the Ingermanland population in the Red Army. The mobilization was so difficult that the Bolshevik leadership resorted to extreme measures of coercion: forced labor, the shooting of deserters, confiscation of property and the taking of close relatives hostage. The forcible seizure of food products from peasants was widely used; in addition, 10 cattle were exported from Northern Ingermanlandia to the Novgorod province. Church burned. The village of Mikulainen is spread out with artillery from two destroyers from Shlisselburg. Punitive actions were led by the head of the internal defense of Petrograd, J. X. Peters.
              In your language, the White Finns are a response to the atrocities of the Red Guards with their Jewish and Latvian commissars.
              1. zombirusrev
                zombirusrev April 26 2020 21: 49 New
                +2
                Yeah, but do not think that the actions of the Reds is about the answer to the actions of the White Finns in relation to their Reds and Russians and just Russians. Massacres of rape on national and class grounds. Ours was simply shot by the decision of the Revolutionary Tribunal .. and these were simply raped and slaughtered ... even the white officers prifigely .. and Yudenich refused to help them take Piitari (Petrograd) ..
          2. Cheldon
            Cheldon April 25 2020 23: 33 New
            +1
            Quote: Deck
            Resolution on the extension of the "operation to rout the espionage and sabotage contingents"

            You are not original. Famine in Ukraine will be abruptly. And so, according to this article, thousands were shot and the Finns are a little bit in this number, to my deep regret and sorrow.
          3. Vladimir_2U
            Vladimir_2U April 26 2020 07: 36 New
            +2
            This is the move, start with the wartime directive, screw up with it and jump to 38 years.
            Quote: Deck
            Something I do not recall such concern from the Finns

            Something I also do not remember. But you turn on your mind now and come up with something
            But why invent, evacuating YOUR citizens in wartime with no concern for them, this is not a crime, but imprisoning civilians with inhumane, to put it mildly, content is a crime against humanity, which, incidentally, has no statute of limitations.
            1. Deck
              Deck April 26 2020 09: 01 New
              -6
              "е) в случае оказания сопротивления лицами, подлежащими эвакуации, или отказа от выезда, выявлять и арестовывать зачинщиков"
              "9. Эвакуируемое население направить в следующие области в соответствии с указаниями совета по эвакуации:
              to the Krasnoyarsk Territory ....................... 24 000 people
              Novosibirsk region .................. 24 000 "
              Altai Territory ................................ 12 000 "
              Omsk region ............................... 21 000 "
              Северо-Казахстанскую область ....... 15 000 «"

              Is this your understanding of a voluntary and caring evacuation? After which people were forbidden to return to their homes until the end of the 70s under the threat of reprisals? (State Defense Committee of the USSR No. 6973ss of November 19, 1944, Decree of the Council of People's Commissars of the USSR No. 13925rs of September 19, 1945, Resolution of the Council of Ministers of the USSR No. 5211ss of May 7, 1947 of the year and the decision of the Leningrad Executive Committee No. 9cc of May 11, 1947, Decree of the Council of Ministers of the USSR of August 3, 1948) That they would not dare to return to their native land

              Once again, your quote:
              Actually, imprisonment on a national basis is one of the signs of genocide

              Чем поселки спецпереселенцев с коммендатурами НКВД в тайге на севере Красноярского края лучше "переселенческих лагерей" в Карелии? Может числом умерших от голода и болезней?
              The issue of Finnish war crimes was examined in detail by the Nuremberg Tribunal, the perpetrators were punished. The history of the Finnish genocide in the USSR is still awaiting a fair investigation and sentence.
              1. Vladimir_2U
                Vladimir_2U April 26 2020 10: 10 New
                +4
                Quote: Deck
                Is this your understanding of a voluntary and caring evacuation?
                This is an elementary forethought. And at the same time we are talking about the arrest of possible instigators, and not about the execution, for example.
                Quote: Deck
                Is this your understanding of a voluntary and caring evacuation?
                Voluntary? Not really, but not placement in a concentration camp on suspicion of intent regardless of gender or age. Thoughtful? Quite.
                Quote: Vladimir_2U
                Total weight of baggage (including food) must not exceed 600 kg
                More than half a ton per family, at the expense of the state, this is not even a cat sneezed even today.
                Quote: Deck
                That would not dare to return to their native land
                Well, of course, the native lands, only the Russians were also native to the Russians, those who survived of course after the Finnish concentration camps would be immensely glad to see the Finns. Now the Russian authorities don't give a damn about the feelings, but not then. But for you, who are the Russians compared to the FINS. Well, as usual, for people like you, it's a lie, because:
                Only the following categories of Ingermanlanders were allowed to stay in the Leningrad Region: a) participants in the Great Patriotic War, who had government awards, and members of their families; b) members of the families of military personnel who died on the fronts of the Great Patriotic War; c) labor soldiers and other persons awarded orders and medals of the Soviet Union, and members of their families; d) members and candidates for membership of the CPSU (b) and their families; e) members of families headed by Russians; and e) clearly disabled elderly people who do not have relatives

                Quote: Deck
                Чем поселки спецпереселенцев с коммендатурами НКВД в тайге на севере Красноярского края лучше "переселенческих лагерей" в Карелии
                Может возможностью спокойно заниматься трудом и на хлеб зарабатывать, не за колючей проволокой "переселенческих лагерей"-концентрационных лагерей, по факту, под постоянной угрозой лишения жизни и постоянным, специально организованным, голодом? И чем враньё про север КР для эвакуированных подтвердите?
                Quote: Deck
                The issue of Finnish war crimes was examined in detail by the Nuremberg Tribunal, the perpetrators were punished

                What a lie, and you still write something about the study of history.
              2. zombirusrev
                zombirusrev April 26 2020 21: 50 New
                -1
                DO NOT know what the differences are, so be silent. And study the concept of genocide. Before the dregs drive.
          4. Mordvin 3
            Mordvin 3 April 26 2020 22: 22 New
            0
            Quote: Deck
            A total of 10 people were convicted under the “Finnish line”

            The SS man drove my grandfather to be shot. As the grandfather beat up that you, nemchura, do not feed us, so the SS man was stunned. He stuck a gun in his head, and then changed his mind ..........
      2. Torak
        Torak April 26 2020 05: 41 New
        +3
        Well, firstly, it saved them from starvation. Secondly, there would have been no expulsion from Leningrad and its environs - Leningrad would most likely have been taken and the further development of the Great Patriotic War would have been unpredictable. So everything is right, comrades!
        1. Deck
          Deck April 26 2020 06: 42 New
          -7
          Замечательные оправдания у господ Torak, Владимир_2У. Спасли значит. В таком случае пользуясь вашей логикой финны отправляли "русских коммисаров и диверсантов с семьями" в переселенческие лагеря чтобы "спасти от справедливого народного гнева"?
          Without justifying the Finns (they themselves do not justify themselves, but offer to openly discuss the events of 80 years ago, having opened all the archives), I suggest starting with my own story. And then the words about the genocide may return as a boomerang.
          1. Vladimir_2U
            Vladimir_2U April 26 2020 07: 42 New
            +5
            Quote: Deck
            Remarkable excuses for the gentlemen Torak, Vladimir_2

            What are the excuses to whom? You openly distort the facts, use
            Quote: Deck
            отправляли "русских коммисаров и диверсантов с семьями"
            literally Goebbels words, and then offer
            Quote: Deck
            learn your own story
            . You simply tear out the phrases that are advantageous to you even from the available documents, without worrying that it is easy to check them, let alone jumping from date to date, without bothering with logic at all
          2. zombirusrev
            zombirusrev April 26 2020 21: 52 New
            +1
            We know that, but you feed on anti-Russian and anti-Soviet liberal myths.
          3. Torak
            Torak April 27 2020 00: 00 New
            -1
            My friend, yes you. Your psychiatrist.
  12. Xenofont
    Xenofont April 25 2020 14: 21 New
    +6
    Пора открывать музей "нацистких приспешников и колаборантов" и "всем сестрам по серьгам," в непрерывном режиме вываливать обличительные документы. Пусть не забывают и корчатся.
    1. novel66
      novel66 April 25 2020 15: 49 New
      +5
      only today was an idea
      надо бы музей открыть " арсенал Гитлера" и прославить там всех, кто вкалывал на него в поте морды лица
  13. cost
    cost April 25 2020 14: 21 New
    18
    A separate big topic is the fate of Soviet prisoners of war. Of the more than 67 thousand soldiers and officers captured by the Finns, more than 20 thousand were killed, that is, one in three.
    Modern Finnish historians, recognizing the fact of high mortality of prisoners of war from starvation and deprivation, insist that this was not a practice of targeted extermination, but only a combination of tragic circumstances.
    Не кто иной , как Карл Маннергейм подписал приказ № 132,) смоздании в Карелии концлагерей для военнопленных и местного русскрго населения." по сей день хранящийся в Военном архиве Финляндии. Его четвертый пункт звучал довольно лаконично: «Русское население задерживать и отправлять в концлагеря».. И этому человеку пытались поставить в Питере памятную доску fool
    1. Vasyan1971
      Vasyan1971 April 25 2020 14: 26 New
      +6
      Quote: Rich
      insist that this was not a practice of targeted extermination, but only a combination of tragic circumstances.

      Well yes. It itself somehow, contrary to all selfless humane efforts ...
  14. Caretaker
    Caretaker April 25 2020 14: 23 New
    +5
    так как почти половина населения Карелии имела финские корни, а значит "to them относились лучше, чем к русским"
    Но "к ним" относились хуже чем к финнам. Хорошо, хоть в этом признался.
    The fact that it was necessary to relate to the Russians even worse is indisputable for Pasi Jaakkonen.
    The camps were created out of fear that the Russian population could start partisan activities and sabotage
    Old men, women, children - for the Finnish Nazis were potential partisans.
    Most men of draft age were sent to concentration camps as prisoners of war, and mortality there in the winter of 1941-1942 was as in German.
    They want to make of the Finns fascists who fought on the side of Germany, and for this we need evidence, that is, the history is rewritten again
    The next step will be the assertion that Finland from the first days of the war fought on two fronts, against the USSR and Germany?
    1. boss
      boss April 25 2020 23: 33 New
      +1
      Про "с первых дней" не знаю, но дед служивший с 39го про финнов рассказывал.
      I did not have time to demobilize, as the war began, went through the entire blockade of Leningrad.
      When I asked him a little why he was limping, he told how the Finns shot in the leg and hit.
      So from the first days or from the second, but they fought against ours for sure.
      The finals are worse than the Germans.
      He said that the Germans at the forefront left grub. They raised ours to attack, took the first positions and that’s all. They were too weak and hungry.
  15. Vasyan1971
    Vasyan1971 April 25 2020 14: 23 New
    +2
    They want to make of the Finns fascists who fought on the side of Germany, and for this we need evidence, that is, the history is rewritten again

    Why rewrite it? Everything is written long ago.
    https://sovsojuz.mirtesen.ru/blog/43090945067/Zverstva-finnov-Mannergeyma-na-fronte-byili-podstat-IGIL.-Svidet?nr=1&utm_referrer=mirtesen.ru
    1. Caretaker
      Caretaker April 25 2020 19: 02 New
      +2
      Quote: Vasyan1971
      Why rewrite it? Everything is written long ago.

      Thank. Interesting information.
  16. ODERVIT
    ODERVIT April 25 2020 14: 34 New
    +8
    I do not know how this investigation of the UK will end, but for me, the Finns and their KGM are war criminals who miraculously escaped punishment, following the results of the Second World War. Namely, they held the northern half-ring of the blockade of Leningrad. In the besieged city, my relatives died of starvation, and my parents saved the evacuation. Scum.
  17. Prisoner
    Prisoner April 25 2020 14: 37 New
    0
    Naive. Do they really think that without evidence, without documents, ours would be put to the public’s court? So exhausted, stand and be silent.
    1. Malibu
      Malibu April 25 2020 14: 51 New
      +3
      Quote: Captive
      Naive. Do they really think that without evidence, without documents, ours would be put to the public’s court? So exhausted, stand and be silent.

      They begin to scream, apparently we are not guilty ..! That's what our archives are doing, it was not in vain that they were saved from the vandals of the 90s. They immediately rushed right away to destroy the KGB archives in the former republics of the Union ..
      But their main part was taken out and not allowed to destroy all evil spirits .. And there are interesting docks, who handed over whom and are now in power .. khe khe ..
      Here are the gentlemen of the current elite smukhortit mouth from these documents, who their ancestors were and how they were already introduced into power wink
      We will expose a little to plan to drive into the brain !!!
      1. Caretaker
        Caretaker April 25 2020 18: 59 New
        0
        Quote: Malibu
        ... This is what our archives do, it was not in vain that they were kept from the vandals of the 90s

        Not everything was saved, unfortunately ...
  18. 1536
    1536 April 25 2020 14: 47 New
    +8
    "26 июня 1941 года президент Финляндии Р. Рюти объявил о том, что Финляндия «находится в состоянии войны с СССР». 28 июня 1941 года немецко-финские войска перешли в наступление на Мурманском направлении, начались боевые действия в Заполярье. Кроме того, с целью ведения пропаганды на население СССР начала работу радиостанция в Хельсинки.
    On the night of July 1, 1941, the Finnish army launched an offensive with the goal of reaching Lake Ladoga.
    10 июля 1941 года главнокомандующий финской армией Маннергейм публично поклялся, что «не вложит меч в ножны» и не прекратит войны, пока финские войска не освободят Беломорскую и Олонецкую Карелию." (цитаты взяты из "Википедии", чтобы далеко не ходить за подтверждением того, что финны воевали на стороне нацистской Германии.)
    А в концлагерях финны держали тех, кто был с этим не согласен, а также русских. После подобных публикаций всякого рода финских "историков", а также намеков на то, что Карелия принадлежит Финляндии, я думаю, что финны ни капельки не изменились с тех самых пор их "неучастия в войне на стороне нацистов". И случись что, финские концлагеря могут возобновить свою работу. Иначе зачем говорить и писать всякую чушь?
    1. Brancodd
      Brancodd April 25 2020 15: 04 New
      +4
      Absolutely agree. The Finns have not changed. Only fear held them back.
    2. asynchronous
      asynchronous April 25 2020 17: 12 New
      +9
      Finnish war criminals had to go through a military tribunal and wash away the shame of the Finnish nation with blood.
      Mannerheim was supposed to end as well as his accomplices from Berlin.
  19. rocket757
    rocket757 April 25 2020 14: 49 New
    +2
    Оправдывает своих "белых и пушистых" ...
    Такого экземпляра отправить на месяцок, другой в соответствующее учреждение, да с теми же условиями, которые те "белые, пушистые" практиковали! По другому б запел, если б выжил, конечно.
    Тамошний бред это " припевка" той же песни, которая несётся с "полей" остальной "прогрессивной" кодлы. Так это надо понимать.
    1. Reptiloid
      Reptiloid April 25 2020 20: 32 New
      0
      Greetings, Victor! It would be interesting to know why he suddenly began to make excuses. What is the background.?
      In general, due to the virus and the crisis, Finnish people will suffer damages, because they depend on our trips. As in the 14th year, sanctions were announced, their products, the goods they were going to sell to us, could no longer be sent to us, but they themselves were too much. I had to discount it a lot and sell it myself, so as not to go bad and not to store it. The population was glad, seized for the future. Well, ours, who arrived, bought.
      And what if the Finn decided to pretend to be so shy, ours would hurry to go to feed them?
      1. rocket757
        rocket757 April 25 2020 20: 48 New
        +1
        Hi Dmitry soldier
        To me, in general, to the lantern, what do they think there.
        We must MAKE ourselves respected in everything and always, and this is a COMPLEX business !!! First of all, you need to start respecting yourself!
        1. Reptiloid
          Reptiloid April 25 2020 21: 14 New
          +2
          Self-interest in this is obvious, only no one will believe such excuses. The halfwit considers everyone the same. For 35 years now, a lot of top-level efforts have been made to ensure that there is no respect for our country. In other camps, they do not spit in their rosloe.
          Again, the Finns did not build a wall in Moscow
          1. rocket757
            rocket757 April 25 2020 21: 33 New
            +1
            Everything is complicated \ simple. Start, all the same, will have to ourselves and from ourselves.
  20. Pvi1206
    Pvi1206 April 25 2020 15: 36 New
    -2
    History is what drawed: where they turned, it turned out ... everyone has their own truth ... no one wants to dirty himself, there are others ... therefore, searching for the truth is pointless ... we must strive for the Truth: it is one and absolute ... search and find ...
  21. asynchronous
    asynchronous April 25 2020 15: 43 New
    11
    They want to make of the Finns fascists who fought on the side of Germany, and for this we need evidence, that is, the history is rewritten again


    The Chukhons, having arranged Slavic genocide during the years of the Second World War, tightly fastened themselves together with Nazi fascism.
    Есть в сети издание 1945 года: "Чудовищные злодеяния финско-фашистских захватчиков на территории Карело-Финской ССР" где собраны показания очевидцев и жертв этих зверей.

    Here are some photo charges from this book:





    1. asynchronous
      asynchronous April 25 2020 15: 47 New
      +7
      In continuation


  22. Aviator_
    Aviator_ April 25 2020 15: 46 New
    +8
    Of the Finns they want to make fascists who fought on the side of Germany, and this requires evidence

    What other evidence? Has Finland really fought on the side of the anti-Hitler coalition? Finnish madhouses are open day, not otherwise.
    1. Reptiloid
      Reptiloid April 25 2020 20: 38 New
      -1
      So 1MV can be remembered. Although they were part of the Republic of Ingushetia, they were closer to the Germans. And under the king of taxes they were privileges
      1. Sklendarka
        Sklendarka April 25 2020 23: 12 New
        -1
        Quote: Reptiloid
        So 1MV can be remembered. Although they were part of the Republic of Ingushetia, they were closer to the Germans. And under the king of taxes they were privileges

        You don’t need to remember anything, but you just need to remember !!! that all these
        Lasla and Vistula, Boliks and Leliki, Wahmurks and Krzymylki understand only one language, i.e. when you drive them under a broom.
  23. Amateur
    Amateur April 25 2020 15: 49 New
    -4
    The national popular movement (Isanmaan Kansallinnen Liike), led by Viituri Kosola. ... The leaders of the Movement declared their commitment to the idea of ​​Greater Finland "from the Gulf of Bothnia to the Urals."

    На вкраине - бандеровцы. Почему в финландии не найти несколько нациков с идеей Финляндии до Урала. Тем более от РФовского МИДа ничего, кроме "озабоченности" не увидишь. am
  24. Azazelo
    Azazelo April 25 2020 16: 32 New
    +2
    Well, from the point of view of any European fascist, there were no people in concentration camps, so there were no crimes ....
  25. gvozdan
    gvozdan April 25 2020 16: 51 New
    +4
    That is, in the case of the annexation of Finland, driving the Finnish population to concentration camps out of fear of partisan activity will be the norm.
    1. Aviator_
      Aviator_ April 25 2020 22: 22 New
      +2
      That is, in the case of the annexation of Finland, driving the Finnish population to concentration camps out of fear of partisan activity will be the norm.

      Да, это будет финский "норм". А другое отношение они расценят как слабость.
  26. Grim Reaper
    Grim Reaper April 25 2020 17: 06 New
    +5
    Знаете, есть такой сериал ,что на западе вышел, под именем "неизвестная война". Есть два варианта озвучки.В принципе 95% совпадающие. Да и оставшиеся 5,% не настолько критичны.Там и цифрры совпадают, -+, и прочее. Имхо самый правдивый про ВОВ
    In Soviet times, it was shown every year. But ..... He is forgotten ....
    1. Aviator_
      Aviator_ April 25 2020 22: 24 New
      +2
      This documentary series was shown in cinemas in the late 70s. Very interesting.
      1. Grim Reaper
        Grim Reaper April 26 2020 06: 14 New
        +2
        Quote: Aviator_
        This documentary series was shown in cinemas in the late 70s. Very interesting.

        I don’t remember about cinemas. Well, what to do. request But on TV I remember. Yes, it is quite possible that he went to the theaters. True 20 episodes .... Well, maybe it was. I do not argue.
    2. Roman_vh
      Roman_vh April 25 2020 23: 08 New
      +2
      Victory is on the channel now
      1. Grim Reaper
        Grim Reaper April 26 2020 06: 23 New
        +2
        Quote: Roman_VH
        Victory is on the channel now

        But mnu does not have the Pobeda channel among almost 200 channels, which MTS-TV provides as part of the monthly fee. However, this film is available both on YouTube and on many torrents.
        I'm talking about the fact that since the beginning of the 90s, a huge number of films about the Great Patriotic War shot during the USSR were canceled. About DH. 1-2 channel. sad
  27. APASUS
    APASUS April 25 2020 17: 40 New
    +4
    Now it's fashionable! Finnish historian Antti Laine undertook to rewrite history. Finland was not in alliance with Hitler and, as it were, camps, not quite camps ................
  28. DymOk_v_dYmke
    DymOk_v_dYmke April 25 2020 17: 51 New
    +1
    Fact is that out of 83 thousand inhabitants of East Karelia more than half, that is 41 thousand people, had Finnish roots. (...) Camps were created out of fear that the Russian population might start partisan activities and sabotage

    41 and in fact more than half of 83, Pasi Jaakkonen studied well. fool
    As follows from declassified documents, in all, in the territory of Karelia, occupied by the Finns during 1941-1944, several dozen camps were created, which contained about 50 thousand people, 90% of which had Slavic roots (Russians, Belarusians, Ukrainians).

    То бишь более половины было в лагеря загнано, - и "никакой оккупации"...
  29. Blue fox
    Blue fox April 25 2020 17: 54 New
    +6
    Well, this “ikstorik” was so-so, otherwise he would have known that there were sometimes even more Karelians and Vepsians in partisan detachments, and Soviet Finns than ethnic Russians, especially in units created in the first years of the war. And the dead almost completely, but never surrendered to the Finns.
  30. cniza
    cniza April 25 2020 18: 10 New
    +5
    А целью создания "лагерей для интернированных лиц" было не уничтожение людей, а страх, что "русские создадут партизанские отряды".


    Super argument ...
  31. Alevil
    Alevil April 25 2020 18: 17 New
    +4
    My grandmother (she was then 14 years old) and her relatives got into such a Finnish concentration camp when the Finns captured the city of Lodeynoye Pole on the Svir River. In this concentration camp, my grandmother’s cousin died. The Finns shot and hung even guys from 14 years old. During the escape from the Leningrad region and Karelia, the Finns left many mined fountain pens and even children's toys ... It was the real genocide of the Russian population of Karelia and the Leningrad region.
  32. TAMBU
    TAMBU April 25 2020 19: 13 New
    +4
    Of the Finns they want to make fascists who fought on the side of Germany ...

    new level of cynicism
    "Доблестным" финам про блокаду Ленинграда напомнить?
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      1. Roman_vh
        Roman_vh April 25 2020 23: 20 New
        0
        Эти тупые двоишники даже фамилию правильно написать не могут Кууссинен он был. И ни какого марионеточного правительства на освобождённой территории небыло. Они вошли в уже имевшиеся субъекты Ленинградскую область. Карельскую ССР и Мурманскую область. А тов. Кууссинен готовился в качестве руководителя всей остальной Финляндии если бы вдруг удалось "расшатать режим". Но незадалось. Посему взяли свое, а тов. Кууссинен канул в лету.
        1. not main
          not main April 25 2020 23: 36 New
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          Quote: Roman_VH
          Therefore, they took their toll, and comrade Kuussinen has sunk into oblivion.

          I completely agree! That's just Comrade Kuussinen stands in Petrozavodsk just below the city hall in the beam of the Andropov’s house (the current registry office) and looks at Lake Onega.
          1. Roman_vh
            Roman_vh April 26 2020 09: 58 New
            +1
            And there is a street in Moscow. So what.
          2. zombirusrev
            zombirusrev April 26 2020 21: 58 New
            +1
            Kuusinen fought with cave Finnish nationalism as early as the year 18, and if it had not been for the Germans he would have won.
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    2. Dart
      Dart April 25 2020 23: 17 New
      +3
      So, go repent ... and kiss the White Finns for the indecency that they have been doing since the beginning of the 20th century.
    3. asynchronous
      asynchronous April 25 2020 23: 20 New
      +7
      Well, you don’t remember the Vyborg massacre of 1918, when almost the entire Russian population of the city of Vyborg was shot. By the way, the Finnish commander, at that time, was the same fascist Mannerheim.


  34. Dart
    Dart April 25 2020 23: 27 New
    +4
    Like this!!
    1. asynchronous
      asynchronous April 25 2020 23: 33 New
      +4
      I think these posters will complement your message.


  35. Shadow041
    Shadow041 April 26 2020 00: 21 New
    +2
    A black male is not mine, he will not turn white. That’s how Hitler’s lackeys get washed away
  36. ugrums1961
    ugrums1961 April 26 2020 03: 12 New
    -5
    I am writing to those who are in the pros. And you just screaming on branches about Russia’s homeland did something useful for its citizens, or go to a cohort of hangers-on and rippers in a place with a company of GDP.
    1. Roman_vh
      Roman_vh April 26 2020 10: 01 New
      +1
      Close up, nivapros. We gulp together the GDP with a full spoon from your plate.
  37. jaroff
    jaroff April 26 2020 10: 09 New
    +4
    In the winter of 1941/1942, my future parents were in occupation. Father in Moscow, and mother in Kalinin, now Tver regions. But really close to each other. Both, at different times, recalling that winter, without saying a word, talked about the Finns. It was said that the Finns were atrocious, worse than the Germans.