The authorities of Prague-6: First, we wanted to attach to the monument a tablet with data on the dark pages of Konev’s career

The Czech edition of Aktuálně published material on the situation related to the demolition of the monument to Marshal Ivan Konev. The monument, as previously stated in the Czech Foreign Ministry, was dismantled by decision of the authorities of the Prague-6 region.

The author of the material in a Czech newspaper writes that the monument is treated "with all due respect."

From the article:

It is not damaged, it was covered with a canvas. It is located next to works of art that are owned by private collectors, as well as the state. These items are waiting for them to find a suitable place in the exhibition.

We are talking about a warehouse in the village of Meszyca, which is 15 km from the Czech capital.

Author:

The monument is inside. It is protected from ultraviolet radiation, special technologies help maintain the required temperature and humidity. The territory is guarded around the clock.

With these words, the author of the material in a Czech newspaper is clearly trying to justify the dismantling of the monument and its transportation to the warehouse. The words about “protection from ultraviolet radiation” are perplexing, on the basis that the monument has stood in the open air for decades, and, as it turned out, ultraviolet radiation is definitely not the most important thing that threatened it.

The article reports that the statue will remain in stock until the opening of the XNUMXth Century Museum. When exactly this museum will be opened, no one can say today in the Czech Republic.

Author:

Prague-6 will pay for the storage of the monument all this time. Now it costs her 12 thousand crowns per month (this is about 35 thousand rubles, - approx. “VO”).

The statement of the deputy head of the Prague-6 district is given:

We decided to remove the monument, because supporters and opponents gathered near it, and this led to clashes. And at first we did not want to go for dismantling, but were going to attach a sign to the marshal’s monument telling about the dark pages of his career.

The head of Prague-6, Ondzhej Kolarzh, said that he "repeatedly proposed to Russia to pick up the monument." According to Kolarge, now the municipality has refused to communicate with the Russian Embassy.

Collage:

We proposed to them in August last year to conduct constructive negotiations. And again they offered them a monument. But we never received an answer.

Earlier in Prague, it was announced that they had decided to put personal guards at the Collage "because of threats against him."

Comments

[Valery Valery]

They are just our enemies.

[DMB 75]

Moreover, constant and restless. The exceptions in the form of Ludwik Svoboda and his soldiers only confirm the rule. What they wanted to write there, I wonder ... What kind of crap?

[Insurgent]

Quote: Alex Justice

I read that Konev was still a boor.

What rubbish bin did you find such a reading in?

[Spektr]

In the open, of course. There and not so in a holey heads is born.

[Lipchanin]

Quote: Insurgent

What rubbish bin did you find such a reading in?

On the censor most likely
Or just made up

[Alex Justice]

Type in Google: Konev beat his subordinates with a stick

[AU Ivanov.]

Konev was never a friend of Zhukov. Towards the end of their life, they even almost became enemies.

[Insurgent]

Quote: Valery Valery

They are just our enemies.

Are they the only, and the most sophisticated?

In Lvov, they took hostage the ashes of the Soviet intelligence agent Kuznetsov. What for? | Clear Clear # 600

Video from 24.04.2020/XNUMX/XNUMX

[iouris]

The most dangerous enemy is sitting inside us. This is a medical fact. Let's find the money, make and install a monument in Moscow. And according to external enemies, we must be our ruble.

[Insurgent]

Quote: iouris

for external enemies it is necessary to be our ruble

Not everything can be solved in rubles ...

Just imagine such a picture that Russia would begin to solve the security problem of Crimeans that arose as a result of the Bander-Maidan coup financially, and not in the way that was implemented ...

[mitroha]

That is, you propose to politely resolve the issue?
And maybe our beer will get better

[Lipchanin]

Quote: iouris

Let's find the money, make and install a monument in Moscow.

Yes, they do not sell it !!!
No one !!!
Slovaks asked, they did not sell.
There’s more than one day of conversation about this, but how were you born again

[grandfather_Kostya]

A monument is a memory. Demolition of the monument is equivalent to the destruction of memory. To buy a monument and install it in Russia, it means that the memory of Marshal Konev will remain only in Russia, but not in Prague! This is what some Czechs are seeking. In any case, the monument must remain in Prague in its place! This must be achieved in all possible and impossible ways.

[Atlant-1164]

I think if the indignation will demolish all the monuments and monuments in Russia, the white-shells. which by the way and stole royal gold .. it will be fair!

[Pavel57]

With gold, the story is muddy.

[demo]

1 Settlements
1.1 Buzuluk
1.2 Upper Uslon
1.3 Vladivostok
1.4 Yekaterinburg
1.5 Irkutsk
1.6 Kansk
1.7 Krasnoyarsk
1.8 Kultuk
1.9 Kungur
1.10 Barrow
1.11 Miass
1.12 Mikhailovka
1.13 Nizhneudinsk
1.14 Nizhny Tagil
1.15 Penza
1.16 Ambassadorial
1.17 Pugachev
1.18 Samara
1.19 Syzran
1.20 Tyumen
1.21 Ulyanovsk
1.22 Chelyabinsk

Monuments to our "Czechoslovak partners" have been erected in these populated areas.
In fairness, it should be noted that a number of monuments were erected in honor of the dead Czechoslovakians who fought on the side of the Russian Empire in the First World War.
And part, respectively, in honor of those who fought against the Russian people during the Civil War.
Here you go, figure out which monument to leave and which to demolish.
Or all in one go, to such a mother?

Although the list that I cited clearly characterizes our Russian stupidity.
In the sense that commemorative necropolises are established and calluses eyes exactly where these ghouls shed the blood of our citizens, under the guise of a desire to return to their homeland.

[tihonmarine]

Quote: demo

Here you go, figure out which monument to leave and which to demolish.
Or all in one go, to such a mother?
Although the list that I cited clearly characterizes our Russian stupidity.

Well, on all the monuments and write, the same inscriptions that the Czechs want to make on the monument to Konev, so that our people know who they are and what they did on Russian soil.
In general, it’s time, as in Israel, to create a memorial dedicated to the genocide of the Russian people.

[Andrey Volchkov]

They surrendered like homeless people the glass containers of their allies, specifically Kolchak and his headquarters. Allies, ...

[Yngvar]

"So go and figure out which monument to leave and which one to demolish.
Or all in one go, to such and such a mother? "
Dear demo (Van), perhaps you should not deal with the monuments, BUT you should do the same as with the monument to Konev! Fold them in a single pile under a tarp, hang a sign in memory of the fact that they were not called here! They did not come here for the liberation purpose!
It is clear that the grandchildren of those 70-80 thousand Czechs who served faithfully to Hitler are now in power in the Czech Republic, hence the rhetoric! So, as a warning to them, send a photo of tablets from a heap of monuments under a tarp with a description of the "exploits" of their ancestors in a foreign land ... And then we'll see!

[demo]

Our "driver's hands" have little guts.
I remember how Duterte "caressed" the incumbent president of the United States aloud and pasted a resounding epithet.
Man
And ours will only mumble and remain silent.

[Terenin]

Quote: Atlant-1164

monuments and monuments in Russia, white-cherries

The project of the Ministry of Defense of the Czech Republic “Legions 100”, in which monuments to white-collar workers in Penza and another 15 cities of Russia are erected, is being implemented by the General Staff of the Army of the Czech Republic, Military Historical Institute, Human Resources Directorate, Military Intelligence, Communication Strategy Division, Czechoslovak Legion Community, Ministry Foreign Affairs of the Czech Republic and other government bodies.

The monument to the White Czechs should be supplemented with a plate with their real "dark deeds", and a monument to the Red Czechs should be erected nearby, journalist Oleg Gryaznov said on June 9 on the website of the First Penza portal.

Gryaznova was outraged by the monument to the legionnaires of the Czechoslovak corps (whites) installed at Penza-3 station, as well as the complete absence of references to the Red Czechs, "many of whom laid down their heads here, protecting the Sursk region from their compatriots."

He recalled that the White Czechs treated the legionnaires who shared the views of the Bolsheviks most cruelly. “The most cruel tortures and abuse were applied to them, including over corpses. White Czechs distinguished themselves by looting, which took on a huge scale. Residents of the city who have witnessed these events have recalled those bloody days all their lives, ”Gryaznov said.

IA Red Spring
Read the full article here:
https://rossaprimavera.ru/news/ebc592f0

[Malibu]

Quote: Terenin

The project of the Ministry of Defense of the Czech Republic “Legions 100”, in which monuments to white-collar workers in Penza and another 15 cities of Russia are erected, is being implemented by the General Staff of the Army of the Czech Republic, Military Historical Institute, Human Resources Directorate, Military Intelligence, Communication Strategy Division, Czechoslovak Legion Community, Ministry Foreign Affairs of the Czech Republic and other government bodies.

Eh Genadiy, how it all offends to a pain in the heart .. Can soak these monuments For all our soldiers who died in the Czech Republic? Is there anyone there with a hammer ..? I’m ready to throw off a lawyer, but if only this all happened and tough guys! How much men can mock us and our memory ..

[boriz]

Only a bulldozer!

[Terenin]

Quote: Malibu

Quote: Terenin

The project of the Ministry of Defense of the Czech Republic “Legions 100”, in which monuments to white-collar workers in Penza and another 15 cities of Russia are erected, is being implemented by the General Staff of the Army of the Czech Republic, Military Historical Institute, Human Resources Directorate, Military Intelligence, Communication Strategy Division, Czechoslovak Legion Community, Ministry Foreign Affairs of the Czech Republic and other government bodies.

Eh Genadiy, how it all offends to a pain in the heart .. Can soak these monuments For all our soldiers who died in the Czech Republic? Is there anyone there with a hammer ..? I’m ready to throw off a lawyer, but if only this all happened and tough guys! How much men can mock us and our memory ..

You may be right, but if we do this, we can turn into them, into these "authorities of Prague-6"

[Thrifty]

Just like that, it hindered us and the slaves were immediately removed! We must not forget this Czech shameful deflection under the USA! In order not to help them later in liberating the same us from the occupying forces!

[tihonmarine]

Quote: Valery Valery

They are just our enemies.

All states and entities that were part of the German Empires of the Hohenzollerens and the Habsburgs, such as Hungary, the Czech Republic (Bohemia), Slovakia (Moravia), Croatia, Bosnia and Herzogovina, Western Ukraine, Part of Poland, Latvia and Estonia, they absorbed everything pro-German, and wild devotion on the genetic structure. So, whatever form of government they have, they remain pro-German.

[knn54]

According to the recollections of a tanker (grandson of a neighbor), both Poles and Germans in Prague behaved much more harshly than Soviet soldiers.
But the Czechs "forgot" about it.

[Lipchanin]

Quote: knn54

in Prague, both Poles and Germans behaved much tougher than Soviet soldiers.

The Germans opened fire at the slightest threat, as it seemed to them.
They did not spare cartridges and did not even check how many corpses and wounded were left.
In our soldiers, even flower pots from the windows flew

[Zhan]

Quote: knn54

According to the recollections of a tanker (grandson of a neighbor), both Poles and Germans in Prague behaved much more harshly than Soviet soldiers.
But the Czechs "forgot" about it.

They forgot the main thing, because thanks to Soviet intelligence and our troops, they managed to prevent the destruction of Prague, did not allow the cultural heritage to be destroyed, and the Nazis mined Prague very well.

[sabakina]

On May 5, 1945, three days after the Red Army took Berlin, the Czechs very “timely” raised an uprising in Prague. It soon became clear that the Germans were not going to give up at all and even shot at the rebels. Faced with this unexpected and extremely unfortunate fact for them, the Czechs began to ask for help on the radio.


Prague-based Alexandra Prushova-Flenkova recalled: “On Sunday, we did not tear ourselves away from the radio and listened in tension to the news. Suddenly my father’s voice was heard: “Prague is Czech here. We click on the help of letaki. " Eva Zhampakhova wrote about the appeal of the Czech Radio for help: “Come to our aid ... we are surrounded ... Czech people are dying here !!!” The appeal was repeated in English and, to my surprise, in the already familiar Russian language: “Attention, attention! Says Prague, Prague Says! Send aircraft with tanks! ” The Soviet writer Oles Gonchar, who took part in the last battles in Czechoslovakia, wrote about how the Czech radio announcer cried, asking for help.

https://www.vpk-news.ru/articles/52185

[1536]

So what? Now, if now our military bases were located on the territory of the Czech Republic and Slovakia, then yes, one could recall those heroic days of 1945 without looking back.
And so, any Czech will tell you that it was an NKVD radio station, Soviet intelligence officers worked on it. And, most importantly, the "cradle of European civilization" did not need the "Soviet occupation".
And the Germans, what about the Germans? I think that behind all these Czech desecrations and mockery of the memory of our soldiers, commanders and marshals are Germans and Americans. Without their support or "tacit consent", the Czechs would not have dared to make these stupid provocations under the name "maybe the Russians will swallow, they have nowhere to go." The Germans are smart and careful guys. Thus, they are preparing exactly the same actions to eliminate the memory of the Soviet victory on their territory. Give only a time limit. The Germans are already saying that it is time for them to join the UN Security Council.

[phair]

There even Vlasovites were noted. But they wanted to occupy the Amer zone.

[Sergey S.]

Quote: knn54

According to the recollections of a tanker (grandson of a neighbor), both Poles and Germans in Prague behaved much more harshly than Soviet soldiers.
But the Czechs "forgot" about it.

According to the stories of one of the participants in the operation of 1968, it was not recommended to tell how the Germans acted ...
I haven’t read it openly anywhere.

[Lipchanin]

Quote: Sergey S.

I haven’t read it openly anywhere.

About a month and a half ago I read an eyewitness account of how the Germans put things in order at the airport.
The whole company was multiplied by zero
And about how the Germans opened fire, I still knew in the 60s. Who was there told

[phair]

The rezun has it.

[tihonmarine]

Quote: knn54

But the Czechs "forgot" about it.

Well, between the Poles and the workshops there are long-standing claims to each other. Even Jozef Pilsudski, the 1st head of state of Poland in 1918-1922, generally stated that "the artificially and ugly created Czechoslovak Republic is not only not the basis of European equilibrium, but, on the contrary, is its weak link." As early as 1918, the Poles wanted to expand their state at the expense of Czechoslovakia, claiming a number of territories, they were especially interested in the Teshinsky region. In 1920, Czechoslovak President Tomas Masaryk made a statement that if the conflict over Teshin would not be settled in favor of Czechoslovakia, his republic would take the side of Moscow in the outbreak of the Soviet-Polish war. The Polish leadership, frightened by the prospect of a war on two fronts, made concessions. So the love of the Poles and Czechs is mutual and long-standing, if you haven’t yet been digging for centuries.

[Dmitry Potapov]

Every day we must remind who would be an ally of Hitler!

[hhhhhhh]

Immediately after the anthem in the morning read through all the channels.

[novel66]

it would be necessary to open the museum "Hitler's arsenal" and glorify there everyone who worked hard on him in the sweat of his face

[DMB 75]

He wrote already here - they took Berlin already, and these all worked for the good of their beloved Reich.

[Lipchanin]

Quote: novel xnumx

it would be necessary to open the museum "Hitler's arsenal" and glorify there everyone who worked hard on him in the sweat of his face

Not necessary. It is cheaper in all museums where they have weapons to provide signs like Made in ... "

[novel66]

Nooo, do it concentrated! and invite to the opening of Czechs, French ... next on the list

[Lipchanin]

Quote: novel xnumx

Nooo, do it concentrated! and invite to the opening of Czechs, French ... next on the list

Nope not come

[novel66]

and there is a trick - to declare a protocol event - and someone from the embassy will have to be sent

[Lipchanin]

Quote: novel xnumx

and there is a trick - to declare a protocol event - and someone from the embassy will have to be sent

Well, and see what?
He did not know without it?
They all know very well
But, if there is a sign in each museum, more people, our people, will know who our other enemy was

[novel66]

where are friends there ??? didn’t notice something

[Lipchanin]

But there were once ...

[novel66]

fights are not friends yet

[Lipchanin]

But for the most part ordinary people for the most part treated us well
Those who visited the socialist countries on tour trips said that only in Hungary they noticed hostility
And German children constantly came to our pioneer camp
They were friends so that when they left, both our and their girls cried)
Maybe Grandma Merkel came)))

[novel66]

don't you remember her ??

[Lipchanin]

Quote: novel xnumx

don't you remember her ??

Yes where Almost half a century passed when I last had a rest there with the Germans.
I remember only one girl. She was a little older than me and was called Monica)))
Of course I don’t remember the face
But she seemed to be unable to come to us.
Our twin city was Cottbus. From there they came

[Insurgent]

Quote: Lipchanin

Not necessary. It is cheaper in all museums where they have weapons to provide signs like Made in ... "

And it will be more obvious if some of the steps to the Main Temple of the RF Armed Forces in Alabino, made of captured weapons, are provided with the inscription: "Cast from weapons made by Czech collaborators"...

In the meantime, so ("Limonovtsy", "Other Russia" to the building of the Czech consulate in St. Petersburg):

[Lipchanin]

Well then, not only Czech, but all gayropeysky
All on "merit"

[Insurgent]

Quote: Lipchanin

Well then, not only Czech, but all gayropeysky
All on "merit"

For others, I left:

Quote: Insurgent

some part of the steps

[Lipchanin]

Prudently

[Insurgent]

Quote: Lipchanin

Prudently

There is such a feature
A certain proportion of character, mentality, from Ukrainian (not a small-town ) constituting the roots of the genus ...

[Lipchanin]

Quote: Insurgent

There is such a feature

Damn ... damn .... And here I have nicherta

[Insurgent]

Quote: Lipchanin

Damn ... damn .... And here I have nicherta

Wrong ... Everyone has something ...

[Lipchanin]

Of course have. But deep

[Insurgent]

Quote: Lipchanin

Of course have. But deep

Maybe it's worth digging around?

I can recommend a small infantry (sapper) shovel (MPL) of the 1915 model (I have one with a trophy cover, but without a ring on the handle ...), near Donetsk, at a certain moment, not a little was excavated, and not finely ...

[Lipchanin]

Then alaverdi
Also found

[Insurgent]

Quote: Lipchanin

Then alaverdi
Also found

Sorry, but TM-62, this is not about legs, but about molecules ...

And so that it works, I don’t know how to jump on it (of course, if its fuse is in a special way artificially not finalized )

[Lipchanin]

Yeah you're right small things
Have you heard about a gifted horse and teeth?

[Insurgent]

Quote: Lipchanin

Have you heard about a gifted horse and teeth?

It is unlikely that you will be able to give me a rifle-boltovik, or Te-eM-ku, because you do not have them tangibly.
But the shovel ... I have a shovel, and with a mine ... if you came to the DNI, I think somehow figured it out

[Lipchanin]

Write in hp
I do not want to endure what and how I disagree

[phair]

I heard about cardboard mugs. To nakalymaemy fuse after a few taps plowed. And he won’t take the infantry.

[Insurgent]

Quote: phair

I heard about cardboard mugs. To nakalymaemy fuse after a few taps plowed. And he won’t take the infantry.

You just don't know a lot. Including how elementary the MVP-62 (M) fuse is being finalized, after which it can be used as an ersatz of a push-action anti-personnel mine separately from the TM-62 "carcass", or together with it.

But then it is - VERY BIG ANTI-MANAGEMENT MIN

[phair]

I am a medical service, I may not know. Thank you for the enlightenment. I am in naval aviation 1993.

[Insurgent]

Quote: phair

I am a medical service, I may not know. Thank you for the enlightenment. I am in naval aviation 1993.

To physicians - everyone ,respect , and especially - the military, and the warring ...

[serg.shishkov2015]

The museum will be very large! Iron all over Europe!

[novel66]

we have little space ???

[serg.shishkov2015]

But I'm not talking about that! Such a museum is needed, only a bigger building! and most importantly, in the center! To find it was easy! I have written several times at VO as the Czechs and French worked on the Wehrmacht!

[starley.ura]

I think it’s time to shoot a museum and a film about WWII, for each country. Two obelisks are black with a listing of what and most importantly by whom it was done for the benefit of the Third Reich and a white one with a detailed description of the fight against it. And the size of black and white will be clearly visible and the contribution of all countries. And the series is also in all countries, so that descendants do not forget, and most importantly, by name.

[NICK111]

Quote: novel xnumx

it would be necessary to open the museum "Hitler's arsenal" and glorify there everyone who worked hard on him in the sweat of his face

rather than invite them all to Victory Day celebrations.

[novel66]

invite, and after the parade - to the museum, by surprise

[Lipchanin]

Quote: novel xnumx

invite, and after the parade - to the museum, by surprise

And it’s better to go directly to the crematorium

[Shiva83483]

Prague-6 will pay for the storage of the monument all this time. Now it costs her 12 thousand crowns per month (this is about 35 thousand rubles, - approx. “VO”).

?????????????? is it they believe that such a sum will pay off for the liberation from the fascists? to cram utyrs on "atomic" money so that they know. also to roll out reparations for MTO Fashikov, so as not to be clever

[Uncle lee]

covered with a cloth

UV protected

Territory guarded

What caring!

[novel66]

Tolerasts are all caring! ours to you

[Uncle lee]

Quote: novel xnumx

all caring

Yeah! About your well-being! Ours to you with a brush

[novel66]

and about their fellow soldiers

[Lipchanin]

Quote: Uncle Lee

What caring!

And all this for the monument as a dead poultice
Pasta on the ears of the layman

[Yura]

I propose, no, I just insist that “monuments” with a list of the deeds of these “heroes” and with the obligatory heading “THEY HAVE COME TO KILL HERE” should be attached to each monument to foreign invaders in our country.

[Fitter]

No, let these Czech scum shake and scuffle with fear that the guys from the KGB left for them.

[Lipchanin]

Quote: Fitter

that the guys from the KGB left behind them.

Where from?

[Fitter]

Nothing has changed from changing the tablet :)

[_Ugene_]

this is their monument, it was made with their money, stood on their territory, and they decide what to do with it, what is the conversation about? about Russophobia? so this is not news for a long time

[30143]

But the monuments to the white Poles to tear down. Here eye for eye. What kind of example are we talking about? The most interesting thing is that in Germany all the monuments are well-groomed, reconstruction is constantly underway. And these, like the Poles, have always been mongrel vassals.
And the museum of collaborators of fascism ...
But here is one problem - what about Ukraine? After all, she took an active part in its rout (no one questions this, I think so). And today, even here on the site it is propagandized that Ukrainians are fascists.
I think that all the passions between our countries were provoked by a reluctance to treat with respect for each other's choice. Now I will try to explain.
In my opinion, the Russian authorities could not accept the leaders of Ukraine who were elected by the people. They opposed the emergence of pro-Western politicians. And by any means they tried to push their own, they understood - the former lesson, godfather, etc. .. But the Ukrainian authorities wanted to communicate on an equal footing, they still remembered their influence under Khrushchev and Brezhnev. That's the whole compote or the whole background. The ambitions of each side led to what we have. And many, including forum users, rushed / fit in with their ideologists.

[Lipchanin]

Quote: 30143

In my opinion, the Russian authorities could not accept the leaders of Ukraine who were elected by the people.

And who could pour mud on us
Laziness in the internet to look like parashkin as soon as he did not call us
What impudent lie I did not compose.
We did not forget a piece of iron and covers from passports
Well, the preclown does not lag behind him
And shake their hands ????

[30143]

They then began to water you. And yours were happy to learn. Muscles began to play. They thought that God was seized by the scrotum. Do not learn from the mistakes of others. And with some frequency they step on the same rake - they decided to fight the Saudis. If there was a common border, then still wherever it went. And so one bunch turned out. But they can crap. Starting from the USSR, and then Chechnya.
Yes, dear, Lipchanin, politics and diplomacy are a way to negotiate peace. Unfortunately, it was difficult for both our and your politicians.
And do not say that you were not there. CRIMEA AND Donbass - confirmation of this. Because of your politicians, the people will suffer. Just do not write about import substitution ...

[Lipchanin]

Quote: 30143

They then began to water you.

When later???

Quote: 30143

. And yours were happy to learn.

Who to teach ???
Who stood on the mvdana stage? and who handed out cookies ???
Khokhlyatsky logic
Where is the Maidan and where is Syria?
Moss ran about facts and time
Sign of debeloism ((

[30143]

Well, who fit in for the supposedly pro-Russian Yanukovych-Ssykun?
And what dividends did you earn in the Ukrainian direction? I can not judge how the Russian Federation intervened in the United States, but in Ukraine it has been Kalaputzal since 2008. Well, they brought that more than half of the Russian Federation hate.

[rotmistr60]

The head of Prague-6, Ondzhej Kolář ... suggested last August to conduct constructive negotiations

Yulit is an accomplice of fascism (you can't call it otherwise), probably insomnia began to torment at nights, and in the hallway you can hear the heavy tread of the monument. Ours have declassified and are publishing part of the documents relating to the actions of the Czechs during the 2 MW period, and these actions do not paint them. When some of the documents on the Poles were announced, as they were already turning into pans, it is necessary to open the eyes of the "world community" to the Czechs. It turns out to play with them in friendship.

[Mihail55]

They made a good gift for the anniversary of VICTORY !!!!
And our counter sanctions are canceled ... of course, this does not apply much to the Czechs. But still...
Isn’t it time to move from words to CASE ???

[Fedorovich]

Gay Slavs, their mother ...

[Lipchanin]

Quote: Fedorovich

Gay Slavs, their mother ...

This is no longer "Gay Slavs" but just gays

[begemot20091]

Quote: Dmitry Potapov

Every day we must remind who would be an ally of Hitler!

why did the Czechs surrender without a fight?

All this is puzzling. There were more than ten thousand Czech pillboxes and forts, and on the Mannerheim Line, for example, there were only a few hundred of them. Their quality was also good - it impressed even Hitler, usually with contempt for the Slavs. Czech tanks clearly outnumbered German ones, aviation was comparable in number, and taking into account Soviet military assistance, it was as if not more numerous. The excellent artillery of the "Skoda" is familiar to our army as well - the Wehrmacht fired at us from it. The USSR also tried small arms of the Czechs the hard way. The Czech ZB-26 machine guns for their high combat qualities, the SS troops preferred the German MG and fought with them. Why did the Czechs not dare to fight, surrendering to the German demands? All these centuries they were not so much an ethnos as an ethnic substrate - next to the Germans who actively absorbed this substrate. The only bad thing in this situation was that for some reason the people with such an undeveloped national feeling were given sovereignty, which they did not really need. What is delivered without a fight is often not appreciated. September 1938 is an excellent example of this kind. The main reason for the surrender of the Czechs was not the Munich Agreement. This reason was their unwillingness to do anything for the sake of their independence.

[Lipchanin]

Quote: begemot20091

This reason was their unwillingness to do at least something for their independence.

It's like the Bulgarians here on the site are indignant, "You left us"
How and where "thrown" is not said.
Small children, their parents left on the street ..

[30143]

They have such a mentality - to be under someone! This does not surprise me.

[Lipchanin]

Quote: 30143

They have such a mentality - to be under someone! This does not surprise me.

So they are in all seriousness
I just want to say. "Since you consider yourself an eggplant, so they will treat you"

[cost]

A small excursion into the history of the so-called. "Prague Uprising"
In April 1945, when the outcome of the war was no longer in doubt, Czech politicians thought about the future of the country and their own. They did not want to be listed as German accomplices at the end of World War II. It was decided to start the fight.
In Prague there were several centers of resistance, operating completely independently. The Bartosz Commandant was guided by Britain and the USA, and the Czech National Council by the USSR.
By the end of April 1945, both groups had decided that the time for resistance had finally come. Both the Bartosh Commandant’s Office and the CNS planned to rehabilitate themselves in this way (some from the West, others from the USSR) and end the war in the ranks of the fighters against fascism. There was only one catch: the German garrison stationed in Prague. The garrison was not so big. At the disposal of the commandant (General Rudolf Tussen) was about 10 thousand soldiers deployed directly in the city and about 5 thousand in the vicinity. But these were military units with military experience.
The Czechs could oppose them only with civilian rebels armed with revolvers and hunting rifles. In this situation, the uprising was doomed to failure, if only no one came to the rescue.
But the Americans (parts of General Patton) were 80 km from Prague in the Pilsen region, and the nearest parts of the Russians (troops of the 1st Ukrainian Front) were even further 150 km away, in the Dresden area.
Help came from where no one was waiting for her. On April 29, 50 km northwest of Prague, the 1st ROA Infantry Division appeared under the command of Major General Bunyachenko (Vlasovites), who went to surrender to the Americans. On April 30, representatives of the Bartosh Commandant came to Bunyachenko and asked to support an armed uprising in Prague. Bargaining began, which lasted until May 4. In exchange for support, future rebels promised the Vlasovites after the victory the status of allies and political protection. On the morning of May 5, representatives of the command of the 1st division of the ROA and representatives of the Bartosh Commandant signed a document "On the joint struggle against fascism and Bolshevism." Putting both Czechs and Americans at the same time, Vlasov hoped that at least one bet would be winning.
Having received guarantees of support, the leaders of the Bartosh Commandant's Office on May 5 at about 11 a.m. began an uprising. Other Resistance groups had no choice but to join. By 14 pm, about 1600 barricades were built in the city, calls for help flew on the air.
On the morning of May 6, the advanced units of the Bunyachenko division entered the city. With the advent of the Russian division, the actions of the rebels sharply went uphill. If on the 5th of their position was regarded as catastrophic, then during May 6-7, the Vlasovites occupied the entire western part of Prague and divided the city into 2 parts. The surrender of the German garrison was just a matter of time. And at that time, significant changes took place among the rebels and the situation for Vlasovites became not just bad, but very bad. At the head of the uprising was the Czech National Council, oriented to the USSR.
The leaders of the CNS did not want to “stain” themselves with cooperation with the Vlasovites and stated that they did not recognize the agreements concluded with the Bartosh Comedature, were not going to fulfill them and advised the division soldiers to surrender to the Red Army.
Following the Czechs, the Americans “planted a pig”. On the evening of May 7, intelligence of the 16th American armored division arrived in the city. To an offer to take almost liberated Prague, an American officer replied: “No!” By May 1945, the victorious countries had already divided Europe into zones of “responsibility”. Prague was supposed to become Soviet. For Vlasovites it was a blow. Participation in the uprising lost all meaning for them. On the evening of May 7, Bunyachenko gave the order to cease hostilities and leave Prague. The next morning, the 1st division of the ROA left the city.
The pendulum swung in the opposite direction. The Nazis went on the offensive, the territory controlled by the rebels began to rapidly shrink, and the Czechs could no longer think of the conditions for surrender. The commandant of Prague, General Toussin, was neither a fanatic nor a fool. Germany is defeated, Berlin fell. Americans or Russians (and most likely Russians) will still take the city. In this situation, the general decided not to bother with senseless defense, but to save the lives of the last soldiers left under his command. A parliamentarian was sent to an island controlled by the rebels, and the leaders of the CNS were surprised to learn that they had won and the Germans were ready to surrender Prague to them. May 8 at 16:00, General Toussin signed with the Czechs amicable agreement: leaving heavy weapons in the city, German troops went west to surrender to the Americans, the Czechs pledged not to impede them.
Early in the morning of May 9, troops of the 1st Ukrainian Front entered Prague abandoned by the Germans, having lost 30 fighters killed and wounded in the shootings with SS fanatics in the city.

At the Olshansky cemetery in Prague, 437 Soviet soldiers and officers were buried. Dates of death are May 9, May 10, 12th, until July and August. These are fighters of the Red Army, who died already after the Victory from wounds in the Prague military hospital. They are the true liberators of Prague. If there had been no Stalingrad and Kursk, Leningrad would not have stood and Berlin had not fallen, if in May 1945 the victorious Red Army had not stood 150 km. from Prague, the Czechs would not even have thought of raising an uprising, and the Germans - “capitulating” to them.
Something like that

[Lipchanin]

Dmitry, struck once again
Thank you

[dzvero]

And the official version is so beautiful and all noble. Thanks for the educational program, somehow I was not particularly interested.

[sabakina]

The words about “protection from ultraviolet radiation” are perplexing, on the basis that the monument has stood in the open air for decades, and, as it turned out, ultraviolet is definitely not the most important thing that threatened it

Yes, who will plant him? What will he be? This is a monument! Damn, but the Egyptians don’t even know ... Urgently all the pyramids in the underground storage !!!

[Piramidon]

We decided to remove the monument, because ...

What kind of kindergarten excuses. Three weeks invented.

[prior]

Czechs. You will receive an answer ...... "with all due respect."
None of your "good deeds" will go unpunished.

[begemot20091]

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In my opinion, the Russian authorities could not accept the leaders of Ukraine who were elected by the people. They opposed the emergence of pro-Western politicians. And by any means they tried to push their own, they understood - the former lesson, godfather, etc. .. But the Ukrainian authorities wanted to communicate on an equal footing, they still remembered their influence under Khrushchev and Brezhnev. That's the whole compote or the whole background. The ambitions of each side led to what we have.

what the hell. lived for over 20 years in Ukraine as they were raguli and remained. at any convenient or inconvenient occasion, they were reminded of their importance and that everyone owed them something. thank God they left after 2000. the wife does not even want to remember to this day. if there were a lot of "Russians" in my work environment, then she was more "lucky": some raguli and zapadentsy. neighbors also reminded us on occasion that they were feeding us and were constantly jealous that we had a university education, that our children entered and studied in the best universities of the USSR. And our arguments that it all starts with a family broke down on the hopeless stupidity: "You are Russians, we feed you. Your children did not act on their own ... Now we will live without Muscovites (after 1991), you will stand in line for our products, so no one will be able to feed you. " and there is no need to talk about the friendship of peoples. they are going to work with us. they are on duty in Siberia and Moscow. nobody drives them. ambition, of course, diminished. and all the same, on occasion, snot on his fist shaking over a glass, they sting as Russia squeezes them. although they sit at the table in Russia, they eat in Russia, money is being brought from Russia to Ukraine. well, we forgive them. their soul is servile.

[BMP-2]

And they don’t want to attach a tablet about their dark pages of 1968? Or do they think that in 1968 they did good ???

[rocket757]

These just need to be taught, hard and concrete!
But, as I already wrote, we can do it only WE, ALL TOGETHER. Because the top is not up to it, there are only interes accustomed to observe and not all.

[Deck]

These just need to be taught, hard and concrete!

You can tell your plan. What are you going to do?

[K-50]

ultraviolet is definitely not the most important thing that threatened him.

The monuments of Russian Valor, Glory and self-sacrifice are threatened only by the short memory of those for whose sake they were created.

[1536]

Isn't it time to think about the fact that the Czech ambassador has nothing to do in the Russian Federation? Declare him persona non grata and expel him, along with all his Czechs, from Moscow. In "Prague-6", for example, it is so sweet, as I understand it, to every Czech. There will be fewer quarantine violators, since Czech "diplomats" are likely to be dragged around our capital for no reason, and medical protection against neo-fascism does not help. Why do we need representatives of countries in Moscow that pursue a neo-fascist policy and openly mock the USSR, over Russia, its history, its marshals and people?

[BREAKTHROUGH READY]

With rotting Czechs, everything is clear, they take an example from Ukraine.
But the refusal of the Russian Ministry of Foreign Affairs from the monument is worth considering in more detail. If possible, why didn’t they really evacuate him?

[APASUS]

It would be interesting to know the opinion of the American side on this issue. After all, they crawl with their opinion, on and without reason! Will they cover up their vassals or will they be disguised as our Professor?

[Malibu]

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It would be interesting to know the opinion of the American side on this issue. After all, they crawl with their opinion, on and without reason!

Yes, this is their project to annoy Russia and pit the Czechs ..

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Will they cover up their vassals or will they be disguised as our Professor?

Either "tovayischi from Israel" will be otmazhitsya, so they have quieted down in recent months ..
Waiting for protests, etc. khe khe ..

[really]

Those. YOU refuse the Czechs their own alternative thinking

[bycharashkO]

Dog females are twisted out.

[lexa333]

a man starting with the letter r ..... n.

[lelik613]

"they were going to attach a plaque to the monument ..." Why not attach a plaque to the local entertainers? They quickly felt themselves masters ...

[Malibu]

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"they were going to attach a plaque to the monument ..." Why not attach a plaque to the local entertainers? They quickly felt themselves masters ...

Chekhov, somehow regretted in the archives, but they put so many weapons to the Nazis .. And our soldiers have no less blood on them than on the Nazis ..
It's time to open the archives! And then the neo-liberation here already made a coven on the bones ..

[lelik613]

If you carefully nail it with nails, then the tablets will be to their face.

[Jarserge]

How many Czechs did not "feed" but they were and remain Hitler's allies.

[faterdom]

Onjay Kolarge

It would be necessary to remember this character. To not slip away. During the next hedgehog during the liberation of Europe from the Nazis.

[Gennady Fomkin]

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This reason was their unwillingness to do at least something for their independence.

It's like the Bulgarians here on the site are indignant, "You left us"
How and where "thrown" is not said.
Small children, their parents left on the street ..

And we were "obliged" to feed them from the pacifier all the time. The main thing is that we learned the lesson "Throw and do not feed"

[cniza]

The head of Prague-6, Ondzhej Kolarzh, said that he "repeatedly proposed to Russia to pick up the monument." According to Kolarge, now the municipality has refused to communicate with the Russian Embassy.

Late to make excuses ...

[orionvitt]

In the warehouse, the statue will remain until the opening of the Museum of the XX century.

I will not be surprised if this "museum" is called "the museum of the Soviet occupation." It was already, passed.

[Gennady Fomkin]

The monument is inside. It is protected from ultraviolet radiation, special technologies help maintain the required temperature and humidity. The territory is guarded around the clock ..... The head of Prague-6, Andrzej Kolarge said that "he has repeatedly proposed to Russia to pick up the monument." According to Kolarge, now the municipality has refused to communicate with the Russian Embassy. Head of Municipality Interview “Halo Noviny” with the Chairperson of the Slovak-Russian Society, Jan Čarnogurský.

Halo noviny: Many citizens of the Czech Republic, primarily Prague residents, are outraged by how vile the municipality of Prague 6, headed by the headman Ondřej Kolář, “removed the monument to Marshal I.S. Konev from public space. What do you think of this story?

Jan Charnogursky: In my opinion, it fits into the general picture of Prague's municipal policy, ignorant policy.

- Last year, the Slovak-Russian society sent a letter to the leadership of Prague 6 in which it expressed interest in buying a monument. How did the municipality respond, besides the fact that the proposal was clearly rejected?

- It took some time before we received a response to our proposal. At first he was vague. Then I received another letter from Jan Latsina, the deputy head of Prague 6, who was ordered by the headman Ondřej Kolář to “manage” (this is what I call) the fate of the monument. Lacina wrote that at his suggestion of April 6, the Council of Prague 6 decided to transfer the monument to the Museum of the 6th Century in memory for ten years. What will happen to him later, Mr. Latsina did not write in a letter. If Prague 162 agreed to our proposal, we would have announced a tender in Slovakia among cities where this monument could be put up. We would agree with the municipality of Prague 2014 on the appointment of a Czech forensic art expert who would appreciate the sculpture. Then we would contact the Ministry of the Interior of the Slovak Republic to make the monument in the register of state monuments, according to the law under the number 6/XNUMX Z. z., And start collecting funds for the purchase. During this time, we would either agree with Prague XNUMX on the storage of the monument for six months, while we would settle all the necessary formalities, or transport the monument to this temporary storage in Slovakia. After the monument was erected at a chosen location in Slovakia, we would have held a grand opening. All this we would do after consultation with the Embassy of the Russian Federation in Prague and Bratislava.

[Gennady Fomkin]

http://www.halonoviny.cz/articles/view/53481778 -газета Halo noviny (Чехия): история с Коневым открыла ящик Пандоры.

[Gennady Fomkin]

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And they don’t want to attach a tablet about their dark pages of 1968? Or do they think that in 1968 they did good ???

We still do not recall the exploits of their legionnaires who started a civil war with us. I confirm for Slovakia - the monuments to Soviet soldiers are painted and well-groomed.

[16112014nk]

They decided to give the kolaruzh personal protection "because of threats against him."

Now Onjay will walk and look around.

[Sibguest]

"Earlier in Prague, they said that they decided to attach bodyguards to Kolarzh" because of threats against him. "
In order to somehow lift himself out of the shit that he had done with the demolition of the monument, he spoils the air by the fact that Russia allegedly threatens him.
But who needs this Nazi?

[Tuesday]

What can I say, just unfinished fascists.

[Gennady Fomkin]

Change masks, antiseptics for the monument to Marshal Konev. Instead of honestly stale Chinese masks from Italians

[Retvizan 8]

... "in Prague they said that they decided to attach personal protection to Kolarzh" ...
Why? There is no end to grateful citizens?

[Old Operator]

I don’t drink Czech beer anymore! Absolutely.

[alekc75]

started spinning like a snake in a pan !!! what else would come up ???

[Dmitry Zverev]

Filth filth

[radiootdel4]

They are looking for the dark pages of Marshal Konev. He had one - painfully neatly took Prague. But it was necessary as enlightened Western, the so-called called allies, roll out like some who are Dresden. To come in - and not a single shot in our direction. For no one, only ruins.
And the medal should not have been for liberation, but for the capture of Prague. Well, all the war tanks and other weapons riveted for Hitler ..

[phair]

Stalin knew better. Budapest, yes for the capture ... And Prague ... HZ shorter.

[seregatara1969]

Why protect the monument from ultraviolet radiation? Or don’t my skis go?

[aleh.crai]

I thought Czech friends ... and Czech beer is rubbish and Skoda too ...

[Jarserge]

It would not hurt the Czech people to repent in the dark pages of their history.
Czechoslovakia to the last, before the "liberation", one of the most powerful economic allies of Hitler and the army was noted on our territory, as part of the occupation forces.

[Egor-dis]

In short. Information war and information security remain an empty phrase for the security forces, and others like them. After such actions of the Czech Republic, ANY article about the Czech Republic in the Russian media should begin with the words "... a former ally of Nazi Germany ..." and then in the context of "... a state actively reviving fascism ..." with the obligatory recall of all of them sins starting from the 1st World War and the Civil War on the territory of Russia. For nefig! Why do they remember what they want to remember, and we are forced to forget what they don't like? We must actively pull out all their dirty laundry and, if possible, poke their nose as often as possible.

[lelik613]

Why ex?

[Egor-dis]

Quote: lelik613

Why ex?

Because Hitler is no longer there, just like Hitler's Nazi Germany. When (precisely "when" and not "if") in Europe and, in particular, in Germany, fascism will revive again, the "former" can be omitted.

[nikolaj1703]

"Our business is just - Victory will be ours!" (C). Enemies must be destroyed, the Satellites of the Third Reich - throughout the war they worked on the production of weapons for Hitler. Forgot about the Czechoslovak Liberty Corps, which liberated Prague as part of the troops under the command of I. Konev.

[Charlie]

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1 Settlements
1.1 Buzuluk
1.2 Upper Uslon
1.3 Vladivostok
1.4 Yekaterinburg
1.5 Irkutsk
1.6 Kansk
1.7 Krasnoyarsk
1.8 Kultuk
1.9 Kungur
1.10 Barrow
1.11 Miass
1.12 Mikhailovka
1.13 Nizhneudinsk
1.14 Nizhny Tagil
1.15 Penza
1.16 Ambassadorial
1.17 Pugachev
1.18 Samara
1.19 Syzran
1.20 Tyumen
1.21 Ulyanovsk
1.22 Chelyabinsk

Monuments to our "Czechoslovak partners" have been erected in these populated areas.
In fairness, it should be noted that a number of monuments were erected in honor of the dead Czechoslovakians who fought on the side of the Russian Empire in the First World War.
And part, respectively, in honor of those who fought against the Russian people during the Civil War.
Here you go, figure out which monument to leave and which to demolish.
Or all in one go, to such a mother?

Although the list that I cited clearly characterizes our Russian stupidity.
In the sense that commemorative necropolises are established and calluses eyes exactly where these ghouls shed the blood of our citizens, under the guise of a desire to return to their homeland.

And where is in Yekaterinburg a monument to the so-called "White Czechs", as the Bolshevik women called them. I did not come across and did not hear about such