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Slovakia is ready to erect a monument to Marshal Konev, demolished in Prague

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Slovakia is ready to redeem a monument to Konev dismantled in the Czech Republic. Prague rejected this offer.


About your attitude to this stories in an interview with the Czech edition of Halo noviny, the Slovak politician Jan Charnogursky, who holds the post of chairman of the Slovak-Russian society, told.

He believes that the demolition of the monument to Marshal Konev fits into the general trend of the ignorant policy of the municipal authorities of Prague. And when the Slovak-Russian society invited the municipality of Prague-6 to acquire the monument, the Czech side hesitated with an answer, and then refused. She referred to the decision to transfer the monument to the Museum of the XNUMXth Century.

Czarnogursky said that if the answer was positive, the municipality of Prague-6, a tender would be held between the cities of the country for the right to erect a monument in Slovakia. This would be followed by a fundraiser for the purchase of the monument, delivery to the installation site and the grand opening. Naturally, this issue should first be discussed with the Russian Embassy in Bratislava.

In Slovakia, they remember that Marshal Konev made his way through the Carpathians in 1944 to help the national anti-Hitler uprising. And, of course, they don’t forget that under the command of the Marshal the Czechoslovak Army Corps fought along with Soviet soldiers for the liberation of their country.

Therefore, annually on April 4, on the day of the liberation of Slovakia, ceremonies are held at the military cemetery in Slavin with the participation of the country's top leadership. Unfortunately, this year, because of the coronavirus pandemic, we had to confine ourselves to laying flowers on the heads of government and parliament.
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  1. Lipchanin
    Lipchanin April 24 2020 19: 40 New
    40
    , the Czech side hesitated, and then refused

    We waited for the teams from the curators and complied with the order
    1. Gray brother
      Gray brother April 24 2020 19: 47 New
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      Quote: Lipchanin
      We waited for the teams from the curators and complied with the order

      For information.

      Especially if you recall the contribution of the Czech Republic)))
      1. Lipchanin
        Lipchanin April 24 2020 19: 48 New
        +5
        Well, so I wrote about this request
        1. Gray brother
          Gray brother April 24 2020 19: 50 New
          +6
          Quote: Lipchanin
          Well, so I wrote about this

          There are people who don’t like what you wrote, they’re out of the ordinary.
          1. Lipchanin
            Lipchanin April 24 2020 19: 54 New
            12
            Quote: Gray Brother
            There are people who don’t like what you wrote, they’re out of the ordinary.

            А это мои "поклонники" laughing
            They follow me along all branches like a pop star laughing
            Only those autographs beg, and these stupidly minus laughing
            1. Gray brother
              Gray brother April 24 2020 20: 09 New
              18
              Quote: Lipchanin
              А это мои "поклонники"

              )))

              There is no information on topwar yet - an insignificant resource, but all the secret sooner or later becomes apparent.
              1. Lipchanin
                Lipchanin April 24 2020 20: 22 New
                11
                And when they see my nickname, speechless.
                Silently minus and in ambush, waiting for the next post laughing
              2. Nyrobsky
                Nyrobsky April 24 2020 22: 36 New
                19
                Quote: Gray Brother
                There is no info on topwar yet - insignificant resourcebut all the secret sooner or later becomes apparent.

                Справедливости ради и не рекламы для, но по посещаемости ВО держит первое место среди сайтов по военной тематике. Больше 20 млн.в месяц. Тут какой только паствы из "дружественных стран" не пасётся и наверняка эти крендельки из украинского ИПСО присутствуют.Как то так winked
                1. Gray brother
                  Gray brother April 24 2020 22: 56 New
                  +5
                  Quote: Nyrobsky
                  In attendance, VO holds first place among military-related websites.

                  For the most part they are sitting on Ukrainian home resources, well, and in social networks - there is generally a bacchanalia, but I can’t say that it is one-sided, however, I dare to say that the enemy is very wooden there, it’s easy to put them into components.
                  Although this hat is now enough for many to clog the brain, from a lack of education and horizons.
          2. venik
            venik April 24 2020 21: 49 New
            +8
            Quote: Gray Brother
            There are people who don’t like what you wrote, they’re out of the ordinary.

            ======
            good С "языка сняли"! Только хотел написать: "КТО "тапочками швыряется"?"..... Похоже - "свидомые нацпатриоты" из всех щелей полезли! Гадить по мелкому - это вполне в ИХ стиле! drinks
            1. Gray brother
              Gray brother April 24 2020 21: 52 New
              +9
              Quote: venik
              Похоже - "свидомые нацпатриоты" из всех щелей полезли!

              Tse bugs. They’ve been sitting in the cracks here for a long time.
              https://asd.news/articles/voyna/pauki-v-odesskoy-banke/
              1. Terenin
                Terenin April 25 2020 00: 11 New
                +7
                Quote: Gray Brother
                Quote: venik
                Похоже - "свидомые нацпатриоты" из всех щелей полезли!

                Tse bugs. They’ve been sitting in the cracks here for a long time.
                https://asd.news/articles/voyna/pauki-v-odesskoy-banke/

                Сергей, и Вы хотите, что бы с этими "датами нарождения" они вступали с нами в дискуссию? О, чем?... Я, вас "умоляю" winked



      2. Lord of the Sith
        Lord of the Sith April 24 2020 20: 34 New
        14
        God forbid, they will also erect a monument to the ROA, which participated in the Prague uprising, this will be a real spit and a stone in the garden.
        1. Gray brother
          Gray brother April 24 2020 20: 37 New
          +2
          Quote: Lord of the Sith
          God forbid, they will erect a monument to ROA

          So that's the point. I will tell you more.
          “We are not moving”: how the Russian embassy changed its address in Prague
          The Russian Embassy in the Czech Republic issued a statement on the change of address
          Angelina Milchenko 19.04.2020/16/34, XNUMX:XNUMX

          The Russian diplomatic mission in the Czech Republic explained the change in its address. This happened after the Prague City Hall decided to rename the Pod Kastany Square, where the Embassy is located, to Boris Nemtsov Square. Diplomats noted that changing the address does not mean moving. According to them, this event is "deliberately trying to give a political sound."
          1. Lord of the Sith
            Lord of the Sith April 24 2020 20: 42 New
            +6
            Surrounded by devils to the fullest. I wonder how the Yankees put pressure on the Czech Republic, that they are so bent?
            1. Gray brother
              Gray brother April 24 2020 20: 47 New
              +4
              Quote: Lord of the Sith
              I wonder how the Yankees put pressure on the Czech Republic, that they are so bent?

              The parliamentary republic is the same. The key parliamentarians are fed so much that they are ready to substitute Prague for a nuclear strike - if only they would pay adequately and provide transport on time.

              The classic scheme.
              1. Roman1970_1
                Roman1970_1 April 24 2020 21: 08 New
                -17
                ready to substitute Prague for a nuclear strike

                Under whose nuclear strike.
                Do not write nonsense.
                Or do you call your bunch a nuclear strike.
                1. Lord of the Sith
                  Lord of the Sith April 24 2020 21: 21 New
                  12
                  Catch the addict! laughing
                2. Gray brother
                  Gray brother April 24 2020 21: 22 New
                  12
                  Quote: Roman1970_1
                  Under whose nuclear strike.
                  Do not write nonsense.
                  Or do you call your bunch a nuclear strike.

                  I had to introduce. What they do not give a damn about their country and people, any whim of the sponsor can be paid for with the provided opportunities.
                  Do you have anything to show me except physiological features?
                  Come to the master feeding trough, sickly! Ahahahaha!
              2. Amin_vivec
                Amin_vivec April 26 2020 12: 30 New
                +1
                I think there was no pressure, the classic licking of the fifth point.
          2. Metallurg_2
            Metallurg_2 April 25 2020 10: 25 New
            +5
            Could Borya Nemtsov, who began his career, think like the six of the Nizhny Novgorod bandit Klementyev that so many squares and streets will be named in honor of him.
            1. Dingo
              Dingo April 25 2020 20: 25 New
              +1
              Там еще банк "БНД" засветился... Ну, это когда Боря губером Нижнего стал... Мутная история. Мерзкая...
        2. iouris
          iouris April 24 2020 21: 18 New
          -3
          Maybe in this way the Czechs want to force the Russian Federation to change the flag?
        3. Local from the Volga
          Local from the Volga April 24 2020 23: 35 New
          -1
          and so unreal ?!
        4. cost
          cost April 25 2020 04: 04 New
          +8
          Monument to Konev dismantled in the Czech Republic

          This is actually not a monument to Marshal Konev
          Памятник чехословацких скульпторов Зденека Крыбуса (автор статуи) и Вратислава Ружичка (автор памятника), установленный правительством ЧССР 9 мая 1980 года на пражской площади Интербригад, называется - "От благодарных жителей Праги войскам 1-го Украинского фронта Красной армии под руководством маршала Конева за спасение Праги от разрушения нацистами во время Пражского восстания 1945г."

          In this context, the demolition of this monument looks even more vile - the demolition of this monument is not by the grateful descendants of the grateful residents of Prague, those who created this monument are trying to belittle and distort the role of the Red Army in the minds of the younger generation.
      3. tihonmarine
        tihonmarine April 25 2020 08: 46 New
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        Quote: Gray Brother
        Especially if you recall the contribution of the Czech Republic

        Вклад Чехии во ВМВ очень большой. За годы войны чешская промышленность выпустила четверть танков и автомобилей от общей численности танков и автомобилей Вермахта, 1.4 млн. единиц обычного стрелкового оружия, пулеметов-62 тыс., орудий и минометов - около 4 тыс. – это все Чехословакия.работа чешских заводов по вооружению Вермахта велась бесперебойно вплоть до мая 1945 года. Только за январь-март 1945 года чехи изготовили для Вермахта 1136 единиц бронетехники (в основном САУ), что составило почти треть всей выпущенной Германией бронетехники (3922),и лишь за 4 дня до официальной победы Советского Союза «братья-чехи» остановили свою работу.После войны Чехия стала страной-побратимом Советского Союза и то, что в годы войны она была оружейной кузницей Вермахта, было благополучно забыто. А я сколько раз повторял и повторяю, несмотря на то что опять окажусь в минусах ( но зато видно отношение современного человека к ВОВ). "Не нужно было их освобождать", хорошими делами не будет счастлив человек. ОНИ нашу доброту не поймут, а вот обгадят всегда.
        1. DMoroz
          DMoroz April 25 2020 11: 35 New
          +2
          да уж, если бы не их "восстание" то медаль была бы не за "освобождение", а за взятие Праги
          1. Dingo
            Dingo April 25 2020 20: 33 New
            +1
            Вот именно! Вовремя подсуетились... Или просто "За Прагу"...
        2. Altona
          Altona April 25 2020 15: 04 New
          +4
          Quote: tihonmarine
          During the war years, the Czech industry produced a quarter of tanks and cars

          ----------------------
          Почему только за годы войны? Я давно уже писал в комментариях, что 22 июня 1941 года Гудериан вторгался в СССР на гусеницах и чешских танков. Это же не является каким-то секретом, просто это никогда не выпячивалось. А так, сегодня полно "победителей"-французы, чехи, румыны, поляки, не умаляя конечно заслуг Армии Людовой. Хотя по-настоящему с Гитлером в Европе воевали только сербы и греки. Румынская армия вообще "самая сильная", она дошла с Гитлером до Волги и со Сталиным до Берлина.
        3. cat Rusich
          cat Rusich April 25 2020 19: 57 New
          +1
          Czech Republic (Kingdom of Bohemia) from 1212 an integral part of the Holy Roman Empire until 1806. Since 1806, an integral part of the Austrian Empire, later Austria-Hungary until 1918. Protectorate of Bohemia and Moravia from March 16, 1939 to May 13, 1945 The Czechs for many centuries under the Germans-have become accustomed ...
          1. Altona
            Altona April 25 2020 21: 29 New
            0
            Quote: cat Rusich
            The Czechs for many centuries under the Germans-have become accustomed ...

            -------------------------
            Nobody argues, I wrote about this before, that these are very Germanized Slavs. When all this canoe with the monument began.
    2. Uruguay
      Uruguay April 24 2020 19: 48 New
      +3
      Quote: Lipchanin
      , the Czech side hesitated, and then refused

      We waited for the teams from the curators and complied with the order

      Looks like someone will increase them in the structure of NATO..nits!
      1. Lipchanin
        Lipchanin April 24 2020 19: 50 New
        +6
        Quote: Uruguay
        Looks like someone will increase them in the structure of NATO..nits!

        Come on. Put a cookie, pat on the shoulder and that's enough
        How many monuments have the Skakuasas demolished, and so what?
        Further driven into bondage
    3. Vend
      Vend April 25 2020 13: 24 New
      +2
      Quote: Lipchanin
      Slovakia is ready to redeem a monument to Konev dismantled in the Czech Republic. Prague rejected this offer.

      I think this is different. We thought and understood that after some time it would be necessary not only to apologize, but also to restore it to the place so that the apology would be accepted.
  2. Gray brother
    Gray brother April 24 2020 19: 43 New
    0
    Will be punished for it. And the Slovak-Russian society will be declared a terrorist organization.
    1. Uruguay
      Uruguay April 24 2020 19: 56 New
      -2
      Quote: Gray Brother
      Will be punished for it. And the Slovak-Russian society will be declared a terrorist organization.

      And agents of the Kremlin .. This is an old Anglo-Saxon pattern hi
      But Russia still needs tougher to answer this fact of vandalism .. Again, keep silent? And you know why? Because in Prague there are a lot of real estate and kids of our powerful
      The State Duma is silent and even Zhirinovsky has quieted down .. That's how the men and politics are done .. And our people and those whose relatives died during the liberation of Prague (without the support of long-range artillery, Konev’s order)) such a spit in the soul and on the graves ..
      Well next time, in which case ...
      1. Gray brother
        Gray brother April 24 2020 19: 59 New
        +1
        Quote: Uruguay
        But Russia is still tougher to answer this fact of vandalism ..

        I don’t even know, something Czech can be demolished?
        Вы знаете, я думаю что сейчас, в связи с объективными обстоятельствами, наступит сильно голодное время и тут, как говорится: "война придёт - хлебушка попросишь".
        1. Lipchanin
          Lipchanin April 24 2020 20: 23 New
          +8
          Quote: Gray Brother
          I don’t even know, something Czech can be demolished?

          Monuments stand to Czech legionnaires
          1. Gray brother
            Gray brother April 24 2020 20: 31 New
            +3
            Quote: Lipchanin
            Monuments stand to Czech legionnaires

            The state machine is a huge rusty tank, it will grind everything for any reason. And when he gets up a stake, then people start to get angry and push him.
            Mannerheim’s board was also hung, and now the date of the genocide has been brought up on dates without statute of limitations.
          2. Peter is not the first
            Peter is not the first April 24 2020 21: 46 New
            +3
            Наши власти сами виноваты, что так запутано составили "Договор о дружбе и ..." между РФ и Чехией:

            Everything is clear with the graves, they must not be touched and they must be monitored and protected, which is why we have no right to destroy the graves of Czech legionnaires.
            А вот, что такое: "Воинские памятники другой Договаривающейся Стороны"? Во-первых, я не нашел нигде определения как "воинский памятник" в законодательстве (я для себя отношу памятник Конева к воинским памятникам, так как он посвящен войну). А во-вторых, есть ещё слова о "... другой Договаривающейся Стороны". И получается раз памятнико Коневу устанавливался не Россией, и не СССР, то он и не подпадает под защиту этого договора.
            So, as always, we ourselves, out of kindness of heart, laid a mine for ourselves, which they used.
        2. Uruguay
          Uruguay April 24 2020 20: 36 New
          +1
          Quote: Gray Brother
          I don’t even know, something Czech can be demolished?

          Well, let's say memorials to white-collars in Russia Remember this?
          Quote: Gray Brother
          Вы знаете, я думаю что сейчас, в связи с объективными обстоятельствами, наступит сильно голодное время и тут, как говорится: "война придёт - хлебушка попросишь".

          Soon they will bark and ask for help .. Help and then again the persecution will begin with a malicious smile negative
          1. Gray brother
            Gray brother April 24 2020 20: 38 New
            +4
            Quote: Uruguay
            Well, let's say memorials to white-collars in Russia Remember this?

            Yes. Let them stand in the cemetery, we are not at war with the dead.
            1. Uruguay
              Uruguay April 24 2020 20: 56 New
              0
              Quote: Gray Brother
              Quote: Uruguay
              Well, let's say memorials to white-collars in Russia Remember this?

              Yes. Let them stand in the cemetery, we are not at war with the dead.

              You are right .. Not ours it is! hi
          2. APIS
            APIS April 25 2020 11: 28 New
            +3
            Well, let's say memorials to white-collars in Russia Remember this?

            They can’t be demolished, but no one can forbid to place information there that these Kolchak allies died during punitive raids and marauding of civilians.
            It is only unlikely that the current leaders will have the courage.
        3. AK1972
          AK1972 April 25 2020 10: 22 New
          +2
          Quote: Gray Brother
          I don’t even know, something Czech can be demolished?

          Общественный Совет при МО РФ предложил переименовать станцию метро "Пражская" в станцию имени маршала Конева". По моему отличное предложение, и уменьшенная копия статуи обязательно должна стоять на этой станции. Можно также ресторан "Прага" переименовать в "Братиславу". А лучше всего запретить импорт чешского пива (я, например это переживу), вот это будет действительно достойный ответ Чемберлену.
        4. Souchastnik
          Souchastnik April 25 2020 13: 25 New
          0
          I don’t even know, something Czech can be demolished?

          You can refuse Czech beer laughing
        5. Dingo
          Dingo April 25 2020 20: 41 New
          +1
          ..."белочехам" до фига памятников и мемориальных досок ... С их мятежа и началась гражданская война в Советской России. Так, к слову...
      2. Lipchanin
        Lipchanin April 24 2020 20: 31 New
        0
        Quote: Uruguay
        Because in Prague there are a lot of real estate and kids of our powerful

        Who exactly and where?
        Not tired yet?
        Now in America, then in England, then throughout geyrop.
        Now it is already in the Czech Republic
        request
        1. Uruguay
          Uruguay April 24 2020 20: 40 New
          0
          Quote: Lipchanin
          Quote: Uruguay
          Because in Prague there are a lot of real estate and kids of our powerful

          Who exactly and where?
          Not tired yet?
          Now in America, then in England, then throughout geyrop.
          Now it is already in the Czech Republic
          request

          In the Czech Republic, many people in power have our real estate and business .. You did not know this? I’m sorry, but why are the Czech authorities behaving so brazenly and our government is simply howling ..? They are afraid that they will lose and most importantly they will tell who and what has .. That's scary!
          1. Lipchanin
            Lipchanin April 24 2020 20: 59 New
            -1
            Quote: Uruguay
            In the Czech Republic, many of those in power have our real estate and business

            Can one be more specific? Who exactly?
            ..You didn't know that?

            Where from? request
            I have no connections in the Czech Republic request
            and why the Czech authorities behave so impudently

            And do the Sumerians and tribalts kiss us in a hickey?
            Или и там у наших "власть имущих" особняки в собственности?
            t and our power just howls ..?

            Кто именно "подвывает"? Фамилии в студию
          2. Xnumx vis
            Xnumx vis April 24 2020 21: 10 New
            +2
            Quote: Uruguay
            Quote: Lipchanin
            Quote: Uruguay
            Because in Prague there are a lot of real estate and kids of our powerful

            Who exactly and where?
            Not tired yet?
            Now in America, then in England, then throughout geyrop.
            Now it is already in the Czech Republic
            request

            In the Czech Republic, many people in power have our real estate and business .. You did not know this? I’m sorry, but why are the Czech authorities behaving so brazenly and our government is simply howling ..? They are afraid that they will lose and most importantly they will tell who and what has .. That's scary!

            What are you doing !! ???? And the fact that different Americans and the French have property in Russia: ce zrada, chi peramoga ??? In Sevastopol, they have property and South Africa and Israel and the United States, France, etc. etc. ... Most of the land in Sevastopol is held by citizens of Ukraine (1875), Kazakhstan (129), Belarus (60), Germany (44), Moldova (42). Sevastopol land is owned by citizens of Israel, the USA, France, and Great Britain.
            https://sevastopol.su/news/skolko-sevastopolskoy-zemli-prinadlezhit-grazhdanam-ukrainy-i-ssha
  3. Vasyan1971
    Vasyan1971 April 24 2020 19: 48 New
    +7
    In Slovakia, they remember that Marshal Konev made his way through the Carpathians in 1944 to help the national anti-Hitler uprising.

    Wow, haven't you forgotten yet? Well done.
    1. Lipchanin
      Lipchanin April 24 2020 19: 51 New
      +3
      Quote: Vasyan1971
      Wow, haven't you forgotten yet? Well done.

      Slovaks have always treated Russians well
    2. Gray brother
      Gray brother April 24 2020 19: 54 New
      -1
      Quote: Vasyan1971
      Wow, haven't you forgotten yet? Well done.

      The main thing is to rise in time. But in general, the presence of people soberly evaluating history is encouraging, it is a pity that there are fewer of them.
  4. Alex bergman
    Alex bergman April 24 2020 19: 49 New
    +2
    The monument must be taken to Russia! Put in front of the Czech Embassy with the mandatory renaming of the installation site (street, square, square, park, etc.) named after Konev!
    1. Lipchanin
      Lipchanin April 24 2020 20: 02 New
      +2
      Quote: Alex Bergman
      The monument must be taken to Russia!

      Need is needed.
      Yes, do not give request
      She referred to the decision to transfer the monument to the Museum of the XNUMXth Century.
      1. Crimean partisan 1974
        Crimean partisan 1974 April 25 2020 08: 03 New
        0
        Need is needed.
        Yes they don’t give ...... a copy can be made
        1. Lipchanin
          Lipchanin April 25 2020 08: 09 New
          +1
          Quote: Crimean partisan 1974
          ... a copy can be made

          Can. But we are talking about the monument itself. How about a symbol.
          A copy, she is a copy
          1. Crimean partisan 1974
            Crimean partisan 1974 April 25 2020 08: 24 New
            0
            A copy, it’s a copy ..... it’s clear that the reproduction of the Mona Lisa is not the same as the original, but when the Victory Monuments were made in osteurops, no one thought that VANDALISM would be in the brand for Western culture in the future. we expect which monument is next in line in ostherope, if this is the time to start to show concern
  5. Pvi1206
    Pvi1206 April 24 2020 19: 51 New
    +1
    In the leadership of all levels of our former friendly countries, the West has deliberately planted such cardboard fools ... well, the people, of course, could have opposed ... the memory is short ... the veterans are leaving ... the youth has already been brought up in hostility towards Russia. ..
  6. antivirus
    antivirus April 24 2020 19: 59 New
    +1
    and remembers the world saved ....
    ..and sees the world of well-fed boors ...
    ..in the windows of bourgeois Prague ...
    1. Lipchanin
      Lipchanin April 24 2020 20: 24 New
      +2
      Quote: antivirus
      and remembers the world saved ....

      Forgets already request
  7. 1536
    1536 April 24 2020 20: 02 New
    +1
    Why is it necessary to free Czech territory from fascism with enviable frequency?
    1. Lipchanin
      Lipchanin April 24 2020 20: 25 New
      +1
      Quote: 1536
      Why is it necessary to free Czech territory from fascism with enviable frequency?

      Only its territory?
  8. knn54
    knn54 April 24 2020 20: 02 New
    +3
    In 1993, an international agreement was concluded between the Russian and Czech parties on mutual responsibility for the preservation of monuments located in our territories. The demolition of the monument, the contract was unilaterally terminated by the Czech side.
    In addition to concern, no response was followed ...
    1. Lipchanin
      Lipchanin April 24 2020 20: 25 New
      -1
      Quote: knn54
      In addition to concern, no response was followed ...

      What are you waiting for?
      1. Crimean partisan 1974
        Crimean partisan 1974 April 25 2020 08: 12 New
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        And what are you waiting for? .... in vain you are. expressing concern is a very insidious event. for example, a tea house when expressing concern, then there will be some kind of infection. for example, there were graters with Taiwan and chicken flu appeared immediately when the tea house expressed concern over the Spratly archipelago swine flu immediately appeared. China has expressed concern about the shaking of the global economy led by the striped and those are on the ... crown. so concern is very insidious
  9. Thrifty
    Thrifty April 24 2020 20: 03 New
    0
    All this is good, but how to return the monument to Russia? They put him in some kind of zagashnik, where it might not be standing, but lying around, and covered with a patina, and then quietly let them go for re-melting! It is necessary to put pressure on the Czechs, demand to sell at least a monument, but not wait for stones from the sky! !!
    1. Aaron Zawi
      Aaron Zawi April 24 2020 20: 12 New
      +5
      Quote: Thrifty
      All this is good, but how to return the monument to Russia? They put him in some kind of zagashnik, where it might not be standing, but lying around, and covered with a patina, and then quietly let them go for re-melting! It is necessary to put pressure on the Czechs, demand to sell at least a monument, but not wait for stones from the sky! !!

      No way. This monument was created by a Czech sculptor with money raised by the citizens of Prague. Set to the liberation of Prague 35. He is even de jure completely Czech.
      1. Uruguay
        Uruguay April 24 2020 20: 47 New
        -1
        Quote: Aron Zaavi
        No way. This monument was created by a Czech sculptor with money raised by the citizens of Prague. Set to the liberation of Prague 35. He is even de jure completely Czech.

        Taki yes Aron, here the exact infa .. hi
        Who handed over the money, they can take it away, this is according to legal canons Well, and humanly as well, the memory of saving the city from destruction!
      2. Unknown
        Unknown April 24 2020 20: 58 New
        0
        I completely agree with you, a Czech monument, and you should not talk about it. With the departure of the USSR from the world stage, we had to expect the demolition of all the monuments to our generals in Eastern European countries. Really, someone, thought that these monuments will be forever? a big mistake. now we should be worried about a different issue, and if our military burials begin to tear, this could be. the more examples there are- the demolition of burial places for Soviet soldiers in Norway, in -50 years. here it is necessary to think about it, and work ahead of the curve. and with the Czechs, God be their judge, one should not be surprised, they have such a mentality. 371- year under Austria-Hungary they left their imprint on the Czechs. The Hasechka in a “seamstress” has such a character, Lieutenant Lukash, who very well reveals the character of the Czechs. so the Czechs, like these, and they don’t like us. one should not be surprised, but one must keep an eye on them.
    2. Lipchanin
      Lipchanin April 24 2020 20: 28 New
      +1
      Quote: Thrifty
      We need to put pressure on the Czechs, demand to sell at least a monument,

      They did not give us. Slovaks too
      . And when the Slovak-Russian society invited the municipality of Prague-6 to acquire a monument, the Czech side hesitated with an answer, and then refused. She referred to the decision to transfer the monument to the Museum of the XNUMXth Century.
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    1. Andrey Koptelov
      Andrey Koptelov April 24 2020 20: 31 New
      -10
      And when there is money, there is no problem, I took out a gold card with a limit of lam per day, you get a buzz ...
  11. cniza
    cniza April 24 2020 20: 50 New
    +1
    Slovakia is ready to redeem a monument to Konev dismantled in the Czech Republic. Prague rejected this offer.


    This is not Prague, this is minke whales ...
  12. APASUS
    APASUS April 24 2020 20: 52 New
    +5
    The Americans are systematically and stubbornly trying to rewrite history. To reduce the merits of the USSR and to increase their contribution to the Victory. And as for Prague 6, the slaves are not asked for opinions, they are simply informed!
  13. Avior
    Avior April 24 2020 20: 56 New
    -1
    26 декабря 2019 года
    18:00 MSK
    TASS is authorized to declare:
    Zakharova said that the monument to Konev should not be moved from Prague

    MOSCOW, December 26. / TASS /. Russia is grateful to the ex-Prime Minister of Slovakia, Jan Charnogursky, for the proposal to transfer the monument to Marshal of the Soviet Union Ivan Konev to the Slovak Republic, but proceeds from the fact that he should remain in Prague, where he was installed. This was announced on Thursday at a briefing by the official representative of the Russian Foreign Ministry, Maria Zakharova.

    "Мы признательны экс-премьеру Словацкой Республики Чарногурскому, который обратился к муниципальным властям Праги-6 (района чешской столицы - прим. ТАСС) с предложением выкупить установленный в этом районе памятнику маршалу Советского Союза Коневу с целью его переноса и установки в Словакии, - сказала она. - Вместе с тем мы подтверждаем нашу позицию в отношении памятников, они сохраняют свой смысл в привязке к тем местам, где происходили исторические события, в честь которых они установлены"

    https://tass.ru/politika/7430207
    Four months have passed, however ...
    He remembers his proposal, doesn’t he have a position on the Russian Foreign Ministry?
    Unclear....
  14. Alexander Chirukhin
    Alexander Chirukhin April 24 2020 21: 12 New
    -5
    Russia does not need it
  15. Gardamir
    Gardamir April 24 2020 21: 18 New
    -9
    Here
    https://eadaily.com/ru/news/2019/09/26/vsled-za-pribaltikoy-pod-ryazanyu-demontirovali-pamyatnik-sovetskim-voinam
    or here
    https://fedpress.ru/news/77/society/2350522
    well and here
    https://mbk-news.appspot.com/suzhet/snos-i-zabyte-kak-v/

    Now pretend to be patriotic.
    1. businessv
      businessv April 24 2020 23: 37 New
      +3
      Quote: Gardamir
      Now pretend to be patriotic.

      Факты вопиющие, только не пойму, для чего Вы приклеили этот цинично-уничижительный призыв, коллега? Считаете, что кроме Вас патриотов нет, только "патриотики"? Реакция жителей в одном случае, а Хинштейна в другом (о сносе он тоже узнал от жителей), вполне говорит об обратном, так что не надо пытаться унижать людей!
      1. Gardamir
        Gardamir April 25 2020 08: 43 New
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        кроме Вас патриотов нет, только "патриотики"?
        And it's not about me, if this is at home, it may be enough to spit in others. First, you need to restore order in your own country. We allow the demolition of monuments, at home, here are the foreign partners and support the initiative of the party of the government and the president.
        1. businessv
          businessv April 25 2020 12: 50 New
          +2
          Quote: Gardamir
          And it's not about me, if this is at home, it may be enough to spit in others.

          So who against something, the colleague ?! Please express yourself more clearly, because it sounded like you were addressing us in such an unusual way and in determining our status! Any patriot is outraged by the unjust things that are happening in his country mainly from the lack of thought of bureaucrats and the desire to please the leadership, but when this happens regularly, something needs to be done with this - for example, change power!
  16. iouris
    iouris April 24 2020 21: 23 New
    +1
    Russian diplomacy has led itself to a standstill. There is only one way out: a complete change of symbols and meanings.
    1. Dingo
      Dingo April 25 2020 20: 58 New
      +1
      Видать, сильны традиции "козыревщины" в российском МИДе..
  17. ltc35
    ltc35 April 24 2020 22: 11 New
    +1
    Quote: Gray Brother
    Quote: Uruguay
    But Russia is still tougher to answer this fact of vandalism ..

    I don’t even know, something Czech can be demolished ?.

    Торт "Прага" переименовать laughing
    But seriously, do not pay attention to the actions of mongrels. Only weaklings fight with monuments for the host’s approving word.
  18. poquello
    poquello April 24 2020 22: 12 New
    -1
    That's the bad thing, they wanted, but they did not sell them. )))))
    So they really wanted to ..., religion didn’t allow them to make, order, etc.
  19. 1536
    1536 April 24 2020 22: 22 New
    +1
    Quote: Alex Bergman
    The monument must be taken to Russia! Put in front of the Czech Embassy with the mandatory renaming of the installation site (street, square, square, park, etc.) named after Konev!

    Чехи настолько охамели, что не отдают памятник. Поэтому, может быть, отлить его копию, которую, действительно, надо поставить напротив посольства "шахматной республики" в Москве. Пусть знают, что к ним маршал Конев уже пришёл!
  20. DPN
    DPN April 24 2020 23: 04 New
    -1
    The monument is then the Soviet commander, but in Russia the Soviet is not something of a glory.?
  21. businessv
    businessv April 24 2020 23: 27 New
    +2
    Therefore, annually on April 4, on the day of the liberation of Slovakia, ceremonies are held at the military cemetery in Slavin with the participation of the country's top leadership.
    Here at such events, the attitude of countries and residents towards each other is checked! Some demolished, others are ready to raise funds for the purchase and installation! Bravo Slovakia! Much poorer than the Czech Republic, therefore, apparently more conscientious! Thank!
    1. BREAKTHROUGH READY
      BREAKTHROUGH READY April 24 2020 23: 44 New
      0
      Much poorer than the Czech Republic, therefore, apparently more conscientious!
      The level of economic development of the country is approximately at the same level.
      1. businessv
        businessv April 25 2020 00: 04 New
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        Quote: READY FOR BREAKTHROUGH
        The level of economic development of the country is approximately at the same level.

        This is now, after entering the euro zone. Slovakia lags constantly because most of the industry at the time of separation was in the Czech Republic. Slovakia had to make much more efforts to equalize the situation and reduce the backlog from the Czech Republic in economic development from about 25% to 10%.
  22. Local from the Volga
    Local from the Volga April 24 2020 23: 38 New
    +4
    Да не надо ничего делать, а только поднять наличие недвижимости в Праге и Карловых Варах у наших "слуг народа"! Там и ответить можно жестко без стеснения! Мечты... Вообще перестали мышей ловить ! что-то начинает надоедать!!!
  23. tatra
    tatra April 25 2020 00: 10 New
    0
    The Belochekhs demolished the monument to Konev, and seized it with a death grip. Inactive, very mildly speaking.
  24. Pavel57
    Pavel57 April 25 2020 00: 45 New
    -1
    An interesting step by Slovaks in any way. Slovaks have always treated Russia better than Czechs. Although they fought on the side of Germany.
    1. Avior
      Avior April 25 2020 08: 44 New
      -1
      More precisely, not Slovaks, but one Slovak.
      This is his personal initiative.
      hi
    2. businessv
      businessv April 25 2020 12: 55 New
      0
      Quote: Pavel57
      Although they fought on the side of Germany.

      On the German side, one way or another, at the beginning of the Second World War in 1941, almost all the countries of Europe fought, colleague!
      1. Dingo
        Dingo April 25 2020 21: 07 New
        +1
        Vadim - one clarification. The only country that NEVER has ever fought with us is Serbia.
        1. businessv
          businessv April 25 2020 23: 03 New
          0
          Quote: Dingo
          The only country that NEVER has ever fought with us is Serbia.

          Yes, we have always had a special relationship with Serbia, that's true. All the more offensive is the uselessness of the march of our paratroopers in 1999! And Slobodan Milosevic’s appeal to the Slavs is still relevant: “Brothers, remember the fate of Yugoslavia. Do not let me do the same to you. ” He did not say a word about the surrender of Yugoslavia to Russia by the West.
  25. Gennady Fomkin
    Gennady Fomkin April 25 2020 05: 56 New
    -1
    The mayor of Prague is not only a scoundrel, he is also a coward.
    1. businessv
      businessv April 25 2020 13: 00 New
      0
      Quote: Gennady Fomkin
      The mayor of Prague is not only a scoundrel, he is also a coward.
      Not Prague, but one district of Prague. Local government of Prague-6.
  26. Gennady Fomkin
    Gennady Fomkin April 25 2020 06: 02 New
    0
    Czechs, such Czechs ...

    I remember there was a story when Czech Protestants defended Prague (the birthplace of Protestantism) from the Spanish Catholics (the Battle of the White Mountain), and the Prague quartermaster turned to give them shovels for the construction of field fortifications. For it is not supposed.

    The result is a lost battle and Catholic Prague ... laughing
  27. Gennady Fomkin
    Gennady Fomkin April 25 2020 06: 13 New
    0
    Quote: Pavel57
    An interesting step by Slovaks in any way. Slovaks have always treated Russia better than Czechs. Although they fought on the side of Germany.

    Slovakia declared war on the USSR on June 23, 1941 and sent two infantry divisions, three artillery regiments, and a tank battalion to Ukraine and Belarus. Plus - one aviation regiment (41 fighters and 30 bombers). However, the Slovaks did not show themselves as their command wanted: they tried to evade the fire, and very often surrendered to the Red Army. So, an entire infantry battalion, a howitzer battery and an air service division once crossed over to our side along with weapons. The irretrievable losses of the Slovak side amounted to almost 7 thousand people.
  28. Ros 56
    Ros 56 April 25 2020 07: 24 New
    +1
    A lesson for us for life, we never need to raise fascist mongrels to their level, they should remain those who were almost all of Europe - Hitler lackeys and should live accordingly, and all the best to the winners.
    1. Pavel57
      Pavel57 April 25 2020 09: 34 New
      +3
      It seems that you can’t wash a black male to white.
  29. vkd.dvk
    vkd.dvk April 25 2020 10: 39 New
    0
    Quote: Uruguay
    Quote: Gray Brother
    Will be punished for it. And the Slovak-Russian society will be declared a terrorist organization.

    And agents of the Kremlin .. This is an old Anglo-Saxon pattern hi
    But Russia still needs tougher to answer this fact of vandalism .. Again, keep silent? And you know why? Because in Prague there are a lot of real estate and kids of our powerful
    The State Duma is silent and even Zhirinovsky has quieted down .. That's how the men and politics are done .. And our people and those whose relatives died during the liberation of Prague (without the support of long-range artillery, Konev’s order)) such a spit in the soul and on the graves ..
    Well next time, in which case ...

    Arithmetic was not given to you at school. Therefore, you can’t even approximately calculate the amount of property in Russia and compare with what was transferred there. If you had the opportunity (mental and informational), you would not write nonsense.
  30. vkd.dvk
    vkd.dvk April 25 2020 12: 30 New
    0
    Quote: Rich
    Monument to Konev dismantled in the Czech Republic

    This is actually not a monument to Marshal Konev
    Памятник чехословацких скульпторов Зденека Крыбуса (автор статуи) и Вратислава Ружичка (автор памятника), установленный правительством ЧССР 9 мая 1980 года на пражской площади Интербригад, называется - "От благодарных жителей Праги войскам 1-го Украинского фронта Красной армии под руководством маршала Конева за спасение Праги от разрушения нацистами во время Пражского восстания 1945г."

    In this context, the demolition of this monument looks even more vile - the demolition of this monument is not by the grateful descendants of the grateful residents of Prague, those who created this monument are trying to belittle and distort the role of the Red Army in the minds of the younger generation.

    Any monument is a Symbol. And, if this were not an image in the metal of a person, but, for example, a plate, or a pillar, put IN NAME, it would be as insulting to us as the demolition of a monument.
  31. Gennady Fomkin
    Gennady Fomkin April 25 2020 13: 03 New
    -1
    Quote: businessv
    Quote: Gennady Fomkin
    The mayor of Prague is not only a scoundrel, he is also a coward.
    Not Prague, but one district of Prague. Local government of Prague-6.

    Is it like the head of the district center began to speak out against the president? laughing Was there enough authority? lol Not a senny cap.
  32. maxim1987
    maxim1987 April 25 2020 15: 33 New
    +2
    Quote: tihonmarine
    Quote: Gray Brother
    Especially if you recall the contribution of the Czech Republic

    Вклад Чехии во ВМВ очень большой. За годы войны чешская промышленность выпустила четверть танков и автомобилей от общей численности танков и автомобилей Вермахта, 1.4 млн. единиц обычного стрелкового оружия, пулеметов-62 тыс., орудий и минометов - около 4 тыс. – это все Чехословакия.работа чешских заводов по вооружению Вермахта велась бесперебойно вплоть до мая 1945 года. Только за январь-март 1945 года чехи изготовили для Вермахта 1136 единиц бронетехники (в основном САУ), что составило почти треть всей выпущенной Германией бронетехники (3922),и лишь за 4 дня до официальной победы Советского Союза «братья-чехи» остановили свою работу.После войны Чехия стала страной-побратимом Советского Союза и то, что в годы войны она была оружейной кузницей Вермахта, было благополучно забыто. А я сколько раз повторял и повторяю, несмотря на то что опять окажусь в минусах ( но зато видно отношение современного человека к ВОВ). "Не нужно было их освобождать", хорошими делами не будет счастлив человек. ОНИ нашу доброту не поймут, а вот обгадят всегда.


    не помню чьи слова "Прощеные ненавидят сильнее чем побежденные"
    1. Dingo
      Dingo April 25 2020 21: 23 New
      0
      "...Не бойся врагов-в худшем случае убьют. Не бойся друзей -в худшем случае предадут. Бойся равнодушных. Они не убивают и не предают - но с их молчаливого согласия происходят на земле все предательства и убийства... ". Юлиус Фучик. "Репортаж с петлей на шее".
  33. Pavel57
    Pavel57 April 25 2020 16: 27 New
    0
    Quote: businessv
    Quote: Pavel57
    Although they fought on the side of Germany.

    On the German side, one way or another, at the beginning of the Second World War in 1941, almost all the countries of Europe fought, colleague!

    Quote: businessv
    Quote: Pavel57
    Although they fought on the side of Germany.

    On the German side, one way or another, at the beginning of the Second World War in 1941, almost all the countries of Europe fought, colleague!

    Slovakia fought, but the Czech Republic, as a state, did not.
    1. cat Rusich
      cat Rusich April 25 2020 20: 36 New
      0
      Протекторат Богемии и Моравии 16 марта 1939г - 13 мая 1945г. Чехи были составной частью 3-го Рейха. Вооружённые силы протектората Богемии и Моравии созданы 25 июля 1939г - 12 батальонов по 480 "штыков". Командир (генерал-инспектор) Ярослав Эмингер - бывший бригадный-генерал чехословацкой армии. С 5 марта 1945г формировалась чешская рота СС - набрали 70 "штыков" добровольцев. Чешские "эсэсовцы" подавляли Пражское восстание, потом ушли в американскую зону оккупации, вступили во Французский Иностранный Легион, некоторые дошли до Индокитая (битва в "Долине глиняных кувшинов"), воевали во Вьетнаме.
  34. Astra wild
    Astra wild April 25 2020 17: 19 New
    +1
    The other day, we have recorded Slovaks as villains, but in reality they are more decent than the Prague authorities
  35. Zum
    Zum April 26 2020 13: 51 New
    0
    Чехи взяли в "плен" памятник Маршалу Коневу.........и теперь пытаются торговаться......тем самым напоминая всему миру, что есть такое государство ...........Чехия........ибо на европейской арене, они не игроки.....Сложившаяся ситуация, еще раз показывает мелочность и бестолковость современной Европы..........
  36. idkwho
    idkwho April 26 2020 14: 17 New
    0
    Not Slovakia, but a pro-Russian politician who will yap as the Kremlin instructs him

    he once opposed the sanctions that imposed on Russia for the theft of Ukrainian territory.
  37. Astrey
    Astrey April 26 2020 15: 32 New
    0
    Respected the Slovaks even more. How do they manage to maintain dignity in our time? Well done!