US Air Force choose between hypersound and stealth

The U.S. Air Force may arm the new F-15EX Eagles fighter with a supersonic missile. This will happen if Congress approves the purchase by the military of modernized fighters.

Air Force Major General David Krumm, in an interview with Air Force reporters, said new fighter jets could be launching pads for restraining hypersonic weapons.

The F-15 fighter has been operated by the US Air Force for nearly 50 years. F-15EX aircraft manufactured by Boeing.

They have already become considered part stories, but in 2018, information leaked to the press about a possible Pentagon purchase of 144 such military vehicles, which caused heated debate. Most of these fighters will replace the obsolete F-15Cs used since nine in the nine squadrons, three of which belong to the Air Force, and six to the National Guard.

The new aircraft, compared with the previous model, boasts improved sensors and avionics. In addition, he is able to carry more weapons on board. The old F-15Cs, according to Krumm, will not survive until the 2030s due to metal fatigue.

The main disadvantage of the new aircraft is that it does not have invisibility for radars. On the other hand, it is cheaper than the less noticeable F-35 and is capable, unlike it, of carrying powerful hypersonic missiles on board.

Krumm believes that it will be advisable to use the new fighters “in one bundle with the stealth F-35 and F-22,” choosing the main unit of the tactical link.

The tactics for sharing them with the F-22 Raptor are also developed for the F-15C. The Eagles, with their more powerful radars and heavier missile loads, will fly behind the Predators, who are evading radars, helping to find targets for the F-22 and launch missiles at the targets.

US Air Force F-15C pilots can retrain on the F-15EX in just six months.

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[Mavrikiy]

The United States chooses between hypersound and stealth, believes that it will be advisable to use new fighters "in conjunction with the stealth F-35 and F-22," choosing the main unit of the tactical link.

We don’t care who to fry on infrasound.

[Navat]

Quote: Mavrikiy

The United States chooses between hypersound and stealth, believes that it will be advisable to use new fighters "in conjunction with the stealth F-35 and F-22," choosing the main unit of the tactical link.

We don’t care who to fry on infrasound.

Mauritius, you forgot to shout Hurray three times from your sofa

[Sky strike fighter]

Air Force Major General David Krumm, in an interview with Air Force reporters, said the new fighters could become launching pads for deterring hypersonic weapons.

Could have been if the U.S. Air Force had a Dagger, but the Americans don’t have it, so I'm sorry.

[bars1]

AGM-183A will be screwed when it is adopted.

[Avior]

Lockheed Martin AGM-183A ARRW
They do.
https://topwar.ru/160920-ajeroballisticheskaja-raketa-agm-183a-arrw-ssha-sokraschajut-otstavanie.html

[Sky strike fighter]

So how much will the AGM-183A ARRW weigh, will it be tested with the B-52H? Will the F-15 pull it?

[Avior]

Pull it will pull, F15e combat load of about 11 tons, but geometrically how - I do not know

[shahor]

Quote: Sky Strike fighter

So how much will the AGM-183A ARRW weigh, will it be tested with the B-52H? Will the F-15 pull it?

The dagger will weigh less - other materials and filling. And he would have pulled a pair of F-15 EX rockets ... But why? He will pull 4 AGSM-158 ... It will be more efficient. In the United States, now only the lazy does not develop hypersound - with Norwegians with a ramjet engine, Sierra Nevada showed tests of a solid fuel engine. The choice will be.

[Grigory_45]

Quote: shahor

And would pull a F-15 EX pair of such missiles

geometrically - no more than one, under the belly between the nacelles. . And that is debatable, Eagle is lower than the 31st, and ARRW is about the size of a dagger (lengths 6-6,5 m, diameter 800-900 mm). And the wing pylons can not withstand the load (ARRW weighs from 2 to 3 tons)

[shahor]

Quote: Gregory_45

And the wing pylons can not withstand the load (ARRW weighs from 2 to 3 tons)

Well. Of course, you can probably dodge and shove the uncanny into the F-15, but why? They shoved it into Mig to save KB. And so, they ruined the magnificent interceptor. The F-15 is already well armed, in 2-3 years it may and will have hypersound, if necessary.

[NN52]

By the way, they "muddied" not only the F-15EX, but also the F-15CX (single)

That's about)
Actively promote both versions ..

[shahor]

Quote: NN52

F-15cx

Isn't that Silent Eagle? But they refused it, there were no orders.

[Grigory_45]

Quote: shahor

Isn't that Silent Eagle?

F-15SE Silent Eagle - double, created on the basis of the Strike Needle

F-15CX - single
F-15EX - twin versions of the F-15X

[shahor]

Quote: Gregory_45

F-15SE Silent Eagle - double, created on the basis of the Strike Needle

Thanks for clarifying.

[A. Privalov]

I was very surprised to read the article. It is authentically known that the Pentagon's budgetary application for 2020 already included the purchase of eight F-15EX, which was allocated 1 billion green. Rummaged through the net - for sure!
As they say in the Middle East: "A herring has long been wrapped in this news.", Because the news, everything told in the article, was exactly a year ago.
For those interested in google to help:
https://www.airforcemag.com/strategic-planner-f-15s-save-downtime-for-readiness-could-be-hypersonics-platform/

[Grigory_45]

Quote: A. Privalov

It is known that the Pentagon’s budget application for 2020 already included the purchase of eight F-15EX, for which 1 billion green was allocated.

Yes, the application was. Only I met information about 12 aircraft, for the same amount of 1 billion.

[A. Privalov]

Quote: Gregory_45

about 12 aircraft, for the same amount of 1 billion.

12? You can and 12.

[FIR FIR]

It reached the Americans that they were so lacking in our SU-34 and MIG-31.
You can’t hang a lot on the F35.
Once again I am surprised what modernization potential
cars 70-80 years. 50 years behind, and they all rule.

[Sky strike fighter]

In addition, the Mig-31 speed record among fighters has not been broken.

[FIR FIR]

And it seems they will not beat (in the version with the pilot).

[Grigory_45]

Quote: Sky Strike fighter

In addition, the Mig-31 speed record among fighters has not been broken.

MiG-25 is faster.
Where and when did the MiG-31 set a speed record? What is he like?
Altitude record - yes, beyond the 31st, in 1977 under the leadership of Alexander Fedotov

[shahor]

Quote: FIR FIR

50 years behind, and they all rule.
Reply
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A complaint

The Ori made an F-15 aircraft with new potential - a new avionics with the world's most powerful on-board computer, new more powerful and economical engines, increased payload by 2 tons, conformal fuel tanks, new weapons suspension units, etc. To date, 24 cars have been sold to Qatar (with Israeli avionics) and 30 to the Saudis. Now Israel is negotiating, it is buying a squadron, 25 cars. To work with the F-35.

[Navat]

On the F-35, you can hang a lot of things, but under the wings, and then he will lose his stealth. This loading option is relevant after the destruction of enemy air defense

[Thrifty]

Yes, it reminds of the anecdote when God brought Eve to Adam and suggested "choose your wife"! The choice is the same! A heavy missile can be supersonic, with a long range, and a hypersonic missile is a huge opportunity for reconciliation, so you need to choose the moment that you need in this situation. ...

[knn54]

A bit off topic.
At one time, the railway was not fully electrified. And often diesel locomotives were "exchanged" for electric locomotives and vice versa. Usually on suburban routes.
Night. A train stopped at the railway station. The window of one of the compartments opens:
- Tell me, what is this station?
- Odessa.
“Why are we standing so long?”
- The engine is changing.
“And what are they changing for?”
- How on what? Steam engine on a steam locomotive.
- Well, what are you, then this is not Odessa.

[Whirlwind]

Choose something for a long time ...

[Uruguay]

The U.S. Air Force may arm the new F-15EX Eagles fighter with a supersonic missile. This will happen if Congress approves the purchase by the military of modernized fighters.

But what about the F-35 -22? Almost a trillion bucks have already gone into these fighters (development) .. It’s hard now for the Amers, they rush about like wolves driven!
Russia is too tough for them now .. Too early the victory over the USSR began to be celebrated and the medals inflated ..

[Boratsagdiev]

The author, but can a reference to the source?
Or is it completely a VO creation?
F-15s are no longer available since 2004, only the remaining ones are being modernized (there was a plan for a complete failure and the transition to F-22)

[Avior]

are issued
Emirates, Korea, Singapore purchased. there are orders from Israel and the US Army

[EXPrompt]

Very funny article ..
What do they choose there?
From a country that delivered anti-ship missiles in 2019 with a subsonic speed of Mach 0,93. It’s very funny to wait a year for a rocket even supersonic, not to mention hypersound.
It is especially comical to talk about hypersonic rockets on an outdated morally Boeing f15

[fa2998]

Quote: figvam

Quote: Gray Brother

He will dump all this on a dodge maneuver.

The F-15EX will be the first to die, as compared to the F-35 and F-22 they will glow like a Christmas tree.

But don’t you shine for a moment? And don’t worry about the speed and ceiling, the rocket will fix it. And in general, what is the article about? With such a budget and a printing press, you can afford this and that.
We are trying to do this, a dagger and a su 57, and the possibilities are more modest.

[Grigory_45]

US Air Force may arm new F-15EX fighters Eagles

the authors are not able to spell the name of the plane correctly - Eagle. In addition, EX was created on the basis of the Strike Eagle, and the full name is F-15EX Advanced Eagle

[Peter is not the first]

It is difficult for Americans to choose whether they are "smart" (stealthy) or "beautiful" (they have ... high-speed missiles on board.

[Ax Matt]

"The US Air Force may arm the new F-15EX Eagles with a supersonic missile ..."
I often find in articles around the world that the authors do not bother to understand the difference between "hypersonic" and "supersonic" missiles in this case. Well blurted out. wrote. So what? Author! In which resource are you publishing the article? It is a shame to confuse terminology!
You don’t perceive such articles from the word EVERYTHING!