US Air Force choose between hypersound and stealth


The U.S. Air Force may arm the new F-15EX Eagles fighter with a supersonic missile. This will happen if Congress approves the purchase by the military of modernized fighters.


Air Force Major General David Krumm, in an interview with Air Force reporters, said new fighter jets could be launching pads for restraining hypersonic weapons.

The F-15 fighter has been operated by the US Air Force for nearly 50 years. F-15EX aircraft manufactured by Boeing.

They have already become considered part stories, but in 2018, information leaked to the press about a possible Pentagon purchase of 144 such military vehicles, which caused heated debate. Most of these fighters will replace the obsolete F-15Cs used since nine in the nine squadrons, three of which belong to the Air Force, and six to the National Guard.

The new aircraft, compared with the previous model, boasts improved sensors and avionics. In addition, he is able to carry more weapons on board. The old F-15Cs, according to Krumm, will not survive until the 2030s due to metal fatigue.

The main disadvantage of the new aircraft is that it does not have invisibility for radars. On the other hand, it is cheaper than the less noticeable F-35 and is capable, unlike it, of carrying powerful hypersonic missiles on board.

Krumm believes that it will be advisable to use the new fighters “in one bundle with the stealth F-35 and F-22,” choosing the main unit of the tactical link.

The tactics for sharing them with the F-22 Raptor are also developed for the F-15C. The Eagles, with their more powerful radars and heavier missile loads, will fly behind the Predators, who are evading radars, helping to find targets for the F-22 and launch missiles at the targets.

US Air Force F-15C pilots can retrain on the F-15EX in just six months.
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  1. Mavrikiy April 24 2020 16: 20 New
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    The United States chooses between hypersound and stealth, believes that it will be advisable to use new fighters "in conjunction with the stealth F-35 and F-22," choosing the main unit of the tactical link.
    We don’t care who to fry on infrasound. repeat
    1. Navat April 24 2020 20: 07 New
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      Quote: Mavrikiy
      The United States chooses between hypersound and stealth, believes that it will be advisable to use new fighters "in conjunction with the stealth F-35 and F-22," choosing the main unit of the tactical link.
      We don’t care who to fry on infrasound. repeat


      Mauritius, you forgot to shout Hurray three times from your sofa
  2. Sky strike fighter April 24 2020 16: 29 New
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    Air Force Major General David Krumm, in an interview with Air Force reporters, said the new fighters could become launching pads for deterring hypersonic weapons.

    Could have been if the U.S. Air Force had a Dagger, but the Americans don’t have it, so I'm sorry.
    1. bars1 April 24 2020 16: 38 New
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      AGM-183A will be screwed when it is adopted.
    2. Avior April 24 2020 16: 38 New
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      Lockheed Martin AGM-183A ARRW
      They do.
      https://topwar.ru/160920-ajeroballisticheskaja-raketa-agm-183a-arrw-ssha-sokraschajut-otstavanie.html
      1. Sky strike fighter April 24 2020 16: 41 New
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        So how much will the AGM-183A ARRW weigh, will it be tested with the B-52H? Will the F-15 pull it?
        1. Avior April 24 2020 17: 05 New
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          Pull it will pull, F15e combat load of about 11 tons, but geometrically how - I do not know
        2. shahor April 24 2020 17: 40 New
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          Quote: Sky Strike fighter
          So how much will the AGM-183A ARRW weigh, will it be tested with the B-52H? Will the F-15 pull it?

          The dagger will weigh less - other materials and filling. And he would have pulled a pair of F-15 EX rockets ... But why? He will pull 4 AGSM-158 ... It will be more efficient. In the United States, now only the lazy does not develop hypersound - with Norwegians with a ramjet engine, Sierra Nevada showed tests of a solid fuel engine. The choice will be.
          1. Grigory_45 April 24 2020 22: 22 New
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            Quote: shahor
            And would pull a F-15 EX pair of such missiles

            geometrically - no more than one, under the belly between the nacelles. . And that is debatable, Eagle is lower than the 31st, and ARRW is about the size of a dagger (lengths 6-6,5 m, diameter 800-900 mm). And the wing pylons can not withstand the load (ARRW weighs from 2 to 3 tons)
            1. shahor April 24 2020 22: 55 New
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              Quote: Gregory_45
              And the wing pylons can not withstand the load (ARRW weighs from 2 to 3 tons)

              Well. Of course, you can probably dodge and shove the uncanny into the F-15, but why? They shoved it into Mig to save KB. And so, they ruined the magnificent interceptor. The F-15 is already well armed, in 2-3 years it may and will have hypersound, if necessary.
        3. NN52 April 24 2020 17: 50 New
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          By the way, they "muddied" not only the F-15EX, but also the F-15CX (single)

          That's about)
          Actively promote both versions ..
          1. shahor April 24 2020 22: 58 New
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            Quote: NN52
            F-15cx

            Isn't that Silent Eagle? But they refused it, there were no orders.
            1. Grigory_45 April 24 2020 23: 23 New
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              Quote: shahor
              Isn't that Silent Eagle?

              F-15SE Silent Eagle - double, created on the basis of the Strike Needle

              F-15CX - single
              F-15EX - twin versions of the F-15X
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              2. shahor April 24 2020 23: 35 New
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                Quote: Gregory_45
                F-15SE Silent Eagle - double, created on the basis of the Strike Needle

                Thanks for clarifying.
  3. A. Privalov April 24 2020 16: 32 New
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    I was very surprised to read the article. It is authentically known that the Pentagon's budgetary application for 2020 already included the purchase of eight F-15EX, which was allocated 1 billion green. Rummaged through the net - for sure!
    As they say in the Middle East: “Herring has long been wrapped in this news.”, Because the news, everything told in the article, was exactly a year ago.
    For those interested in google to help:
    https://www.airforcemag.com/strategic-planner-f-15s-save-downtime-for-readiness-could-be-hypersonics-platform/
    1. Grigory_45 April 24 2020 22: 23 New
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      Quote: A. Privalov
      It is known that the Pentagon’s budget application for 2020 already included the purchase of eight F-15EX, for which 1 billion green was allocated.

      Yes, the application was. Only I met information about 12 aircraft, for the same amount of 1 billion.
      1. A. Privalov April 24 2020 22: 53 New
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        Quote: Gregory_45
        about 12 aircraft, for the same amount of 1 billion.

        12? You can and 12.
  4. FIR FIR April 24 2020 16: 34 New
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    It reached the Americans that they were so lacking in our SU-34 and MIG-31.
    You can’t hang a lot on the F35.
    Once again I am surprised what modernization potential
    cars 70-80 years. 50 years behind, and they all rule.
    1. Sky strike fighter April 24 2020 16: 39 New
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      In addition, the Mig-31 speed record among fighters has not been broken.
      1. FIR FIR April 24 2020 16: 42 New
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        And it seems they will not beat (in the version with the pilot).
      2. Grigory_45 April 24 2020 22: 38 New
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        In addition, the Mig-31 speed record among fighters has not been broken.

        MiG-25 is faster.
        Where and when did the MiG-31 set a speed record? What is he like?
        Altitude record - yes, beyond the 31st, in 1977 under the leadership of Alexander Fedotov
    2. shahor April 24 2020 17: 52 New
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      Quote: FIR FIR
      50 years behind, and they all rule.
      Reply
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      A complaint

      The Ori made an F-15 aircraft with new potential - a new avionics with the world's most powerful on-board computer, new more powerful and economical engines, increased payload by 2 tons, conformal fuel tanks, new weapons suspension units, etc. To date, 24 cars have been sold to Qatar (with Israeli avionics) and 30 to the Saudis. Now Israel is negotiating, it is buying a squadron, 25 cars. To work with the F-35.
    3. Navat April 24 2020 20: 10 New
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      On the F-35, you can hang a lot of things, but under the wings, and then he will lose his stealth. This loading option is relevant after the destruction of enemy air defense
  5. Thrifty April 24 2020 16: 48 New
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    Yes, it reminds me of a joke when God led Adam to Eve and suggested "choose your wife!" lol The choice is the same! A heavy missile can be supersonic, with a long range, and a hypersonic missile is a huge opportunity for reconciliation, so you need to choose the moment that you need in this situation. ...
  6. knn54 April 24 2020 17: 38 New
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    A bit off topic.
    Once the railway was not completely electrified. And often diesel locomotives were "exchanged" for electric locomotives and vice versa. Usually on suburban routes.
    Night. A train stopped at the railway station. The window of one of the compartments opens:
    - Tell me, what is this station?
    - Odessa.
    “Why are we standing so long?”
    - The engine is changing.
    “And what are they changing for?”
    - How on what? Steam engine on a steam locomotive.
    - Well, what are you, then this is not Odessa.
  7. Whirlwind April 24 2020 17: 42 New
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    Choose something for a long time ...
  8. Uruguay April 24 2020 18: 15 New
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    The U.S. Air Force may arm the new F-15EX Eagles fighter with a supersonic missile. This will happen if Congress approves the purchase by the military of modernized fighters.

    But what about the F-35 -22? Almost a trillion bucks have already gone into these fighters (development) .. It’s hard now for the Amers, they rush about like wolves driven!
    Russia is too tough for them now .. Too early the victory over the USSR began to be celebrated and the medals inflated .. wink
  9. Boratsagdiev April 24 2020 18: 19 New
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    The author, but can a reference to the source?
    Or is it completely a VO creation?
    F-15s are no longer available since 2004, only the remaining ones are being modernized (there was a plan for a complete failure and the transition to F-22)
    1. Avior April 24 2020 23: 25 New
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      are issued
      Emirates, Korea, Singapore purchased. there are orders from Israel and the US Army
  10. EXPrompt April 24 2020 19: 19 New
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    Very funny article ..
    What do they choose there?
    From a country that delivered anti-ship missiles in 2019 with a subsonic speed of Mach 0,93. It’s very funny to wait a year for a rocket even supersonic, not to mention hypersound.
    It is especially comical to talk about hypersonic rockets on an outdated morally Boeing f15
  11. fa2998 April 24 2020 20: 06 New
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    Quote: figvam
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    He will dump all this on a dodge maneuver.

    The F-15EX will be the first to die, as compared to the F-35 and F-22 they will glow like a Christmas tree.

    But don’t you shine for a moment? And don’t worry about the speed and ceiling, the rocket will fix it. And in general, what is the article about? With such a budget and a printing press, you can afford this and that.
    We are trying to do this, a dagger and a su 57, and the possibilities are more modest. hi
  12. Grigory_45 April 24 2020 21: 11 New
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    US Air Force may arm new F-15EX fighters Eagles
    the authors are not able to spell the name of the plane correctly - Eagle. In addition, EX was created on the basis of the Strike Eagle, and the full name is F-15EX Advanced Eagle
  13. Peter is not the first April 24 2020 21: 50 New
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    It is difficult for Americans to choose whether they are “smart” (inconspicuous) or “beautiful” (have on board ... high-speed rockets.
  14. Ax Matt April 25 2020 16: 14 New
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    "The US Air Force can arm the new F-15EX Eagles fighters with a supersonic missile ..."
    Often I find in near-brain articles that the authors do not bother to understand the difference between "hypersonic" and "supersonic" missiles in this case. Well blurted out. wrote. So what? Author! What resource do you publish the article in? It's a shame to confuse terminology!
    You don’t perceive such articles from the word EVERYTHING!