NGO named after Lavochkina began the creation of a booster block for the Soyuz-5 rocket

A new Frigate-SBU booster block for the promising Soyuz-5 rocket will be ready within three years, work on its creation has already begun. This was announced by the Director General of the NGO named after Lavochkina Vladimir Kolmykov.

The Lavochkin NGO began to create a new booster block for the Soyuz-5 rocket; its creation will require minimal financial costs. The new block is created on the basis of the existing Frigate-SB and will differ in the size of the dumped tanks. Three years are allotted for the development of the Frigate-SBU block.

When launched from the Baikonur cosmodrome, Soyuz-5 with Frigate-SBU is capable of launching a cargo weighing 2,5 tons into a geostationary orbit, and up to 5 tons of cargo into a geo-transitional orbit equivalent to launching from the Kuru cosmodrome

- said Kalmykov.

It is noted that fundamental changes in the design and instrumentation of the new unit are not required; they are completely similar to the Frigate-SB upper stage, which was used four times to launch Zenit missiles. Frigate-SBU’s new development will be a dropping block of tanks, the volume of which will change based on the size of the new missile. It is emphasized that the layout, power and pneumohydraulic circuits will be completely taken from the Frigate-SB upper stage.

Recall that the latest two-stage medium-class launch vehicle Soyuz-5 is being developed, including for launching the Federation manned spacecraft.

Comments

[Pvi1206]

The new Fregat-SBU upper stage for the promising Soyuz-5 rocket will be ready within three years,

Everything is very slow ... in the USSR, over such a period of time, a new aircraft was launched into mass production ...

[stalki]

Everything is very slow, just develop new dimensions. I may not compare very well, but it is approximately similar to the development of a new body for a car, the nightcap is still in a different shape. What is so difficult for specialists? I do not understand.

[Igor Borisov_2]

It is noted that there is no need to make fundamental changes to the design and instrumentation of the new unit, they are completely analogous to the Fregat-SB upper stage, which was used four times to launch Zenit missiles. The new development of the "Fregat-SBU" will be a dumping block of tanks, the volume of which will change based on the size of the new rocket. At the same time, it is emphasized that the layout, power and pneumohydraulic schemes will be completely taken from the Fregat-SB upper stage.

If there are no fundamental changes, do you really need THREE years to develop a block of tanks ???

[knn54]

Vladimir Kalmykov is not Semyon Alekseevich Lavochkin. The term for "effective managers" is quite. During this time on the Internet (and not only), and not that can be found.

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Quote: Igor Borisov_2

If there are no fundamental changes, do you really need THREE years to develop a block of tanks ???

Acceleration Blocks do not fly without rockets. The rocket for this upper stage is in the year 2023, and therefore for three years.

[dzvero]

Probably, trials including and test launches in orbit.

[Same lech]

I don’t even know what to say ... there were so many plans with new missiles, blocks ... and it feels like we are marching around ... that the Russian cosmonautics ... civilian cosmonautics are in our full corral ... there are no special achievements.

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Quote: The same Lech

I don’t even know what to say ... there were so many plans with new missiles, blocks ... and it feels like we are marching around ... that the Russian cosmonautics ... civilian cosmonautics are in our full corral ... there are no special achievements.

Don't know, don't tell. We already have another Progress-MS transport and cargo spacecraft flying to the ISS tomorrow:

And in the near future, about a month later, launches of new GLONASS-K navigation satellites begin, the prototype of such serial devices has already successfully worked in orbit for about 5 years and continues its service.

At the same time, on April 16, 2020, the Spektr-RG astrophysical observatory became the first domestic spacecraft to fly around the Lagrange point L2. It took him half a year to do this: on October 22, 2019, the Spectra-RG engines performed a correction maneuver, after which the spacecraft entered a working orbit around L2. During this time, the Earth made a half-revolution around the Sun, and the scientific instruments of the observatory managed to calibrate the instruments and test observations, and then inspect more than half of the celestial sphere. Work continues!

Projection of the trajectory of the Spektr-RG spacecraft onto the ecliptic plane. The dotted line indicates the orbit of the Moon. Green squares indicate the moments of three trajectory corrections during the flight: K1, K2, K3. Orange indicates the moment of "closure" of the working orbit after a complete revolution (the orbit is not closed). Red circle - spacecraft position six months after entering the working orbit

[Same lech]

Good luck with these launches.
But I think that the ISS does little good to Russia ... name the real return of the ISS for our economy ... another thing is Glonass ... we cross ourselves and spit three times over our shoulder so that there is no repeated history with 17 satellites in 2017.

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Quote: The same Lech

Good luck with these launches.
But I think that the ISS brings little benefit to Russia ...

You are mistaken. The main crew of the ISS-63 has planned more than 50 space experiments and research on board.

Quote: The same Lech

name the real return of the ISS for our economy ... another thing is Glonass ...

With the arrival of the MLM-U "Nauka" module on the ISS, the capabilities of pilot production will expand on the ISS RS. The module itself is now in a vacuum chamber for testing. Preparations are underway for sending it to the cosmodrome.

Quote: The same Lech

we cross ourselves and spit three times over our shoulder so that a repeat story with 17 satellites in 2017 does not happen.

This was a latent software error in the Fregat spacecraft, associated with the location of a particular cosmodrome. After that, all launches of the RB were successful.

[Vasyan1971]

New Upper Stage "Fregat-SBU"

Oh, they will wait for a lawsuit from non-brothers for illegal use of the SBU ® trademark ...

[Piramidon]

Quote: Vasyan1971

New Upper Stage "Fregat-SBU"

Oh, they will wait for a lawsuit from non-brothers for illegal use of the SBU ® trademark ...

This "SBU" index evokes very unpleasant associations. For some reason it is not written how it is deciphered.

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Quote: Piramidon

This "SBU" index evokes very unpleasant associations. For some reason it is not written how it is deciphered.

SBU - Reset Tank Advanced

[Errr]

Сthrown Бlock tanks Уperfected.

[Rostislav Prokopenko]

Stop talking about new blocks and ships!
You have to run at least one!

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Quote: Rostislav Prokopenko

Stop talking about new blocks and ships!
You have to run at least one!

RB "Fregat" of various modifications has 85 launches.

[Mayak-SH-7]

Agreed date for sending the Lender hopper to the moon - July 21, 2021.
The automatic interplanetary station developed by the Ukrainian design bureau Yuzhnoye and Yuzhmash together with the British space startup SpaceBit will go to the moon on the American Vulkan Centaur heavy-duty launch vehicle, reports LigaNet.

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Quote: Mayak-SH-7

will go to the moon on the American Vulkan Centaur heavy-duty launch vehicle

Here it will go on the "launch vehicle" But the Volcano had problems. In your photos - a logo, at an exhibition with mock-ups, then a beautiful cartoon in Northrop grumman when assembling Antares with a Swan, which takes off on our RD-181's. What did you brag about?

[lvov_aleksey]

Quote: The same Lech

Good luck with these launches.
But I think that the ISS does little good to Russia ... name the real return of the ISS for our economy ... another thing is Glonass ... we cross ourselves and spit three times over our shoulder so that there is no repeated history with 17 satellites in 2017.

for those who don’t know this technology, even star-striped ones don’t have them, for example overalls, but there’s nothing to say about spacesuits, they just copy. And the engines can’t even copy ...)))

[Sniper Amateur]

Yeah. Here are just "stars and stripes" - bypassed you on rocket engines in almost all respects.

[Disant]

Amateur, well, you at least write what articles you mean in rocket engines, so that people know. And then the Rassians trade in both conventional rocket and ion engines, and maybe they don’t know?

[Sniper Amateur]

Purely offhand: solid propellant rocket engines, reusable liquid propellant rocket engines, methane liquid propellant rocket engines ...

[Disant]

if you remove the use for military purposes (RTTT passes the launch site faster):
are they selling them to someone?
no, because it’s expensive. What do they give? Power increase of 5 percent. Are there such expensive tasks to justify the increase in this power? no. (they actually sell delivery to the satellite’s orbit - yes, but they don’t sell engines. And the market in space is a fiction)

Reusable rail - are they that sit themselves vertically? Does it make sense to drag half-filled tanks down? - it is better to pull out the payload into orbit with inexpensive, reliable, reliable ones. As I understand it, reusable verticals are the future deadlock. If down by parachute - you can beat or dunk. It is necessary with the wings down, and this is a completely different story, that is, get the bast and start over.
I'm probably wrong, so mind

[Sniper Amateur]

if you remove the use for military purposes (RTTT passes the launch site faster):
are they selling them to someone?
no, because it’s expensive. What do they give? Power increase of 5 percent. Are there such expensive tasks to justify the increase in this power? no.

Space Shuttle, Space Launch System
Solid Rocket Booster thrust level rocket engine - failed.

the market in space is a fiction

Given that the total number of commercial and partial-commercial launches is already four-digit? Wow, what an interesting point!

As I understand it, reusable verticals are the future deadlock. Gotta with wings down

You understand that. And there is no consensus among experts. And it was not even then, when my parents still walked under the table, and all kinds of "shuttles" were a megatrend. In any case, Musk is doing very well so far, not only in terms of technology, but also in terms of competition in the cost of launches.

[Disant]

so far, you and Mask are pretty good at writing articles on the wiki and linking to them — that bolt has been tested, that nozzle has been tested — and Tesla’s somersaulting car in open space and American astronauts flying into orbit in the Unions for nearly a dozen years old.
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The shuttle with its solid fuel sides placed the same load into orbit as the Buran. Moreover, after the shuttle was built for its intended purpose (by load), it was not used - the satellites were launched with conventional missiles. because both the shuttle and the snowstorm in these enormous sizes are a dead end. Why pay more?
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According to SLS - this is the past future. Repeat the Fifty Trick

[Sniper Amateur]

so far, you and Mask are pretty good at writing articles on the wiki and linking to them — that bolt has been tested, that nozzle has been tested — and Tesla’s somersaulting car in open space and American astronauts flying into orbit in the Unions for nearly a dozen years old.

Ага. A two-digit list (and the first digit there is not a single unit) of successful launches Mask - bring?

The shuttle with its solid fuel sides placed the same load into orbit as the Buran. Moreover, after the shuttle was built for its intended purpose (by load), it was not used - the satellites were launched with conventional missiles. because both the shuttle and the snowstorm in these enormous sizes are a dead end.

Not "the same". More.
List of satellites launched by "shuttles" - give?

According to SLS - this is the past future. Repeat the Fifty Trick

These are the Moon and Mars. What you can't. Even in long-term plans. As if DOR did not puff out the eaten cheeks. Therefore, all you have to do is whistle (exposing yourself to a ridiculous laughing stock) "And we don't need this!"

[Disant]

that is, we slipped from a dispute in sales and success in engines to the number of starts?
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You don’t want to answer the question, but you want to argue pointlessly, throwing Wikipedia without comparison - you want to.
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Therefore, all you have to do is whistle (exposing yourself to a ridiculous laughing stock) "And we don't need this!"

“Yes, we don’t need this for such loot,” said the Americans and first cut the shuttle program every 10 times, and then repeated it again, closing the shuttle program.
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Moon and Mars? what is the moon and mars? have you ever kept a billion dollars in your pocket? and on SLS - maybe 35 billion will be allocated to stick a flag in the moon - after all, all other programs related to SLS have already been cut again, as with the shuttle. "Yes, for such loot, we don't need it," said the Americans.
Nobody will return from Mars - look at the latest information on galactic radiation, on the Moon - again a maximum of several days, and go home so that the fins do not stick together. You write about SLS, right?
Americans need manned ships, I’ll support them, but to insure the Alliances, and not to fantasize about plowing outer space.
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The programs of leading corporations are at an impasse - where to go next, so that there is light at the end of the tunnel and that there is a drink.
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and about the shuttle loads - yes, please, discard that they drove such an enormous huge, except for Hubble and his repair program - that was really a success

[Sniper Amateur]

that is, we slipped from a dispute in sales and success in engines to the number of starts?

Did you decide to get off?
So I can give you the statistics of commercial launches as well. I have to sit in the office until morning, and with the Chef I usually do not .. more than four times on duty .. I worry - he’s a little bit older - so I have a lot of free time.

"Yes, for such loot, we don't need it," said the Americans and first cut the shuttle program every 10

From what "previdnik" stele "(stele is a ceiling in Ukrainian) these" 10 times "were taken - can't you tell?

Nobody will return from Mars - look at the latest information on galactic radiation, on the Moon - again a maximum of several days, and go home so that the fins do not stick together. You write about SLS, right?

You know, the "arguments" of a chela who confuses galactic cosmic rays and the solar wind are not interesting to me. I learned the difference between them in the 11th grade of a rural school.

Leading corporation programs at a standstill

Did you say that? And someone confirmed the status of AI? Even if at least bullshit at the level of Dima "Chubby Cheeks" Rogozin?

and about the shuttle loads - yes, please, discard that they drove such an enormous huge, except for Hubble and his repair program - that was really a success

You open:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Space_Shuttle_missions
- you click on internal links to orbital missions one by one, pass texts through Google Translate - and enjoy it with pleasure!

[Disant]

from this footcloth!
the answer for the sale of engines, as I understand it, will not be - eat a stupid number of starts. In short, a failure on your part.
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SO CALLED commercial launches do not reflect reality. Something I did not hear calls to KIM Jong-un about launching satellites - but he would launch the cheapest one - training + passing load + interesting orbit.
You understand - corporations rule flights, nobody gives their bread - there is a lot of loot, and we are hung on our ears with the cost of this, the cost of this. We have import launches that go to those orbits where they (zapadentsy) can’t get it, or it really did, because the brothers in their minds are tearing three skins.
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by galactic radiation, I see that you also have nothing to say, but in the meantime this factor hits all cosmic matters. All all space programs will be reviewed. From the SLS, there was only a stupid flight to the moon with a flag - and after all, there should be an American lunar missile meeting! orbital station. From all this splendor there was a zilch in the form of another flag on a stick - the Americans themselves had already announced.
Orion, like the Federation, for long-distance flights is poorer. There’s nowhere to fly - the people of Khan. Then why do these excess tadpoles in orbit - the Union copes well and, most importantly - is reliable and tested in battle.
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[Sniper Amateur]

the answer for the sale of engines, as I understand it, will not be - eat a stupid number of starts. In short, a failure on your part.

Yah? Exactly - right failure?
Launches are not important, but is the supply of engines important? Come up with something smarter. Chessn word!

SO CALLED commercial launches do not reflect reality. Something I did not hear calls to KIM Jong-un about launching satellites - but he would launch the cheapest one - training + passing load + interesting orbit.

What are the load capacity and reliability? What is the range of parameters of possible orbits? Acceleration block - is there? How often can launches occur? Otozh bo ...

by galactic radiation, I see that you also have nothing to say, but in the meantime this factor hits all cosmic matters.

When you bring me a proof for AI, stating that the role of galactic cosmic rays inside the asteroid belt is at least remotely comparable to the contribution of the "solar wind" - then let's talk.

From the SLS there was only a stupid flight to the moon with a flag

Why is NASA completely unaware of this? And continues the program of the lunar inhabited orbiter and the manned Martian?

[Disant]

about the shuttle loads - the involvement of the shuttle itself and in general its effectiveness.
in the same place, in your favorite Wikipedia - there were a bunch of tasks for the shuttle during the design.
The output is 135 fucking expensive launches in 30 years of use. But they planned 25 a year. of these 135 - two disasters, about 10 first training, 20 pieces - to dock with the ISS and the World as a truck) this is cheap!) - but in fact these are auxiliary missions. The Americans were digging the earth right with their nose - they were looking for and inventing tasks for the shuttles.
The loads were always small - all sorts of research and communication satellites - several tons each.
Of course, the exception was Hubble + repairs and two more flights with the same heavy 20-tonne expensively priced reconnaissance satellites (I no longer found on the list you proposed) - one of the normal tasks of the shuttle. And, for some reason, he did not carry them anymore. And other comrades drove: Titan-3, Titan-4, Titan-34, Delta-4 - a total of 20 satellites that the shuttle was supposed to carry. But he could not and just insured.
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But nevertheless, a plus sign of the Shuttle idea was given from the American military - it scared the leadership of the USSR, forced the USSR to get involved in the arms race and the USSR had to develop exactly the same program - the Buran dinosaur, where a lot of folk money was swollen. And we did not print money to the whole world.

[Sniper Amateur]

The loads were always small - all sorts of research and communication satellites - several tons each.
Of course, the exception was Hubble + repairs and two more flights with the same heavy 20-tonne expensively reconnaissance satellites (I no longer found in the list you proposed)

ISS Modules - Where Lost?
But with what one can agree - that the "Shuttle" really did not justify itself. Large orbital rocket planes are a dead end (what did you say about "wings are needed"? ). Plus, no one expected such a pronounced trend towards miniaturization and an increase in the service life and reliability of payloads. By and large - TKS "Earth-Space" with such a total mass of withdrawn monitors - becomes necessary only now. And even that much with the wrong frequency of starts. on which the Shuttle was planned.

[Disant]

ISS modules - tell me the shuttle launch numbers.
about the wings - I'm not talking about back and forth into orbit, but about the sides and about the first stage in general.
https://spaceflightnow.com/2020/03/10/nasa-inspector-general-says-sls-moon-rocket-costs-continue-to-climb/
SLS - already overrun by 30 percent of the budget. If trump stands, then he will give to the flag.
https://www.space.com/nasa-remove-lunar-gateway-artemis-critical-path.html
and they waved the handle of the lunar orbital station
and here’s the answer in the same vein about radiation. almost fresh
Vyacheslav Shurshakov, head of the radiation safety department of manned space flights at the IMBP:
https://ria.ru/20191227/1562889927.html
source - the head of the Department of Space Radiobiology and Pharmacology and the Laboratory of Radiation and Extreme Neurophysiology of the SSC RF of the Institute of Biomedical Problems of the Russian Academy of Sciences Andrei Sergeevich Shtemberg.
all colonizations are shattered:
https://www.radiorus.ru/brand/63253/episode/2146174
hope you are satisfied?

By and large, the Earth-Space TCS with such a total mass of withdrawn PNs is only needed now.

nothing to run - we all die

[Sniper Amateur]

and here’s the answer in the same vein about radiation. almost fresh
Vyacheslav Shurshakov, head of the radiation safety department of manned space flights at the IMBP:
https://ria.ru/20191227/1562889927.html
source - the head of the Department of Space Radiobiology and Pharmacology and the Laboratory of Radiation and Extreme Neurophysiology of the SSC RF of the Institute of Biomedical Problems of the Russian Academy of Sciences Andrei Sergeevich Shtemberg.
all colonizations are shattered:
https://www.radiorus.ru/brand/63253/episode/2146174
hope you are satisfied?

No, not satisfied. I always want more sex.
And now, in addition to jokes: NASA estimates the dose of radiation when flying to Mars and staying on it and in orbit around it for 2-3 months. - at ~ 1 Sv (100 rem). According to the military directory: I — the easiest degree of radiation, which is almost guaranteed to be cured by modern medicine — begins with more than 100 rem. And a person can survive and receive up to 600 rem.
PS Some of my answers to you have been rubbed. I hope you read them.

[Disant]

it was necessary to listen to the audio broadcast carefully, and not rewind -
we are not talking about solar radiation - galactic radiation hits a wider range of particles, leading to astronaut disorientation and more serious consequences DURING flight. Automation can bring corpses back.
And so yes - a one-time lucky astronaut will be treated and die already on the ground.

[Sniper Amateur]

a one-time lucky astronaut will be treated and die already on the ground.

What was the likelihood that Gagarin would return alive? 0,33 or 0.63? And what was the competition? 100 or 200 people for each vacancy in the first part of the Soviet cosmonaut corps?

[Disant]

I hear about probability for the first time.
and how can one compare the operability of technology (in the case of Gagarin) and the natural phenomenon of a cosmic scale that has existed since the formation of the universe? Then it is necessary to compare the technique, then and today.
yes, when flying in deep space, in addition to galactic radiation, there will also be additional radiation from the ship's skin

[Sniper Amateur]

It is necessary to compare in this case not "technique and" phenomenon of scale ", but risk vs. motivation. KMK, in order to be the first people on Mars - there are more than enough people who are ready to take the risk of almost certain death for this. it will be cooler than Armstrong and Gagarin at least.When I was at the front, I happened to see (and even have the honor of being friends and ) lads and girls who are ready to go (and actually go) to certain death without any expectation that "their name will be inscribed in the history of Ukraine in gold letters." And here it will really be Golden Letters. In the history of not a small Ukraine, but the whole of Mankind, damn it! This will only cover the first manned flight to some Alpha-Centauri. I would - fly! And well, all nafig - and the Galaxy and academic practice!

[Disant]

Well, if it was about coolness, then I have nothing more to object to.
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You understand, you can load a thousand young healthy people at least on one flight and send them to Mars or much further, while putting a thousand-year-old pure gold memorial during their lifetime. And there will be no need to look for anyone - the motivation will not be fame, fame, narcissism or some kind of calculation - it will be enough to wear the spacesuit and a new patch on the sleeve.
With the same success, you can start on the Sun, having received a grateful wow from contemporaries and descendants.
And this act will in no way stand not only on a par with the flight of the first person into space or landing on the moon, but not even on one board - it will be a simple murder.

[Sniper Amateur]

And this act will in no way stand not only on a par with the flight of the first person into space or landing on the moon, but not even on one board - it will be a simple murder.

The fact of the matter is that for Humanity - it really will be "not on the same board. "And 100500 times higher. Whatever the Russians blather about this.

[Sniper Amateur]

these are technologies, even star-striped ones don’t have, for example overalls, but there’s nothing to say about spacesuits, they only copy

Peacocks, you say?

The Sokol-M spacesuit will be manufactured using foreign components (polyurethane films, airtight zippers), otherwise it will not be reusable. The spacesuit can be developed entirely from Russian components, but in this case it will be designed not for 10, but for one or two flights (Russian-made rubber quickly ages and wears out, airtight zippers are not produced at all), and will not have the ability to adjust for different heights astronauts.

[Disant]

What is this quote about Sokol-M from the category I’ll go to dig the sea? where is she from? hope the source is trustworthy?

[Sniper Amateur]

Precisely that "I will shock the sea". But you - he is supposed to believe.
Since these "seamen" are none other than RIA Novosti:
https://ria.ru/20190829/1558028564.html

[Disant]

Precisely that "I will shock the sea". But you - he is supposed to believe.
Since these "seamen" are none other than RIA Novosti:
https://ria.ru/20190829/1558028564.html

got it. willingly believe. plus you for the link to the article.
It is necessary to somehow justify to the Americans the high cost of delivery to the ISS - these are spacesuits for rescue during depressurization of the descent vehicle or in orbit, and not for spacewalks.
And so maybe the Americans will let their gum feel - and what if?
This is technical intelligence. This is an excuse. These falcons are a hundred years old at lunch — they have already been modernized to death.
It is clear that the Americans will not let you just feel it - they only have money on their mind

[lvov_aleksey]

Quote: Sniper Amateur

Purely offhand: solid propellant rocket engines, reusable liquid propellant rocket engines, methane liquid propellant rocket engines ...

articles pliz

[Sniper Amateur]

Was Wiki banned? Okay, I’ll help.
https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%91%D0%BE%D0%BA%D0%BE%D0%B2%D0%BE%D0%B9_%D1%83%D1%81%D0%BA%D0%BE%D1%80%D0%B8%D1%82%D0%B5%D0%BB%D1%8C_%D0%9C%D0%A2%D0%9A%D0%9A_%D0%A1%D0%BF%D0%B5%D0%B9%D1%81_%D1%88%D0%B0%D1%82%D1%82%D0%BB
https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%9C%D0%B5%D1%80%D0%BB%D0%B8%D0%BD_(%D1%80%D0%B0%D0%BA%D0%B5%D1%82%D0%BD%D1%8B%D0%B9_%D0%B4%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B3%D0%B0%D1%82%D0%B5%D0%BB%D1%8C)
https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/Raptor_(%D1%80%D0%B0%D0%BA%D0%B5%D1%82%D0%BD%D1%8B%D0%B9_%D0%B4%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B3%D0%B0%D1%82%D0%B5%D0%BB%D1%8C)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BE-4

[Disant]

That's just the point - that for Humanity - it really will be "not on the same board." And 100500 times higher. Whatever the Russians blather about this.

Well, and talked. Well you are all about space and space, you would immediately start from this.
I feel sorry for you. I wish you success in academic practice. bye

[Sniper Amateur]

And good luck to you, sex, money!