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Reasons why Kyrgyzstan is not admitted to the Customs Union

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After the speeches of the Kyrgyz leader Almazbek Atambayev that Russia did not pay Kyrgyzstan for using the airfield in Kant, and also that this air base could be closed forever for Russia, it seems that the Kyrgyz authorities began to sober up. Thus, at a recent meeting of the Chairman of the Cabinet of Ministers of the Republic of Kyrgyzstan, Omurbek Babanov, with the Russian Prime Minister Dmitry Medvedev, it suddenly turned out that official Bishkek has no financial claims to Moscow and, moreover, is even going to join the Customs Union. At the same time, Babanov even confirmed that Kyrgyzstan has already chosen its way (obviously, to join the CU), and it remains only to adjust the time interval to reach the final point of this path.

And now the members of the Customs Union (Russia, Kazakhstan and Belarus) face the question: whether to take or not to take ... In other words, whether to provide Bishkek with reliable guarantees that Kyrgyzstan will soon become a full member of the CU on the same principles that guide countries him already logged on.

On the one hand, the following may seem: but what, they say, is there to think, of course, you need to give the Kyrgyz leadership such guarantees, otherwise ... And as “differently”, supporters of the idea of ​​Kyrgyzstan’s immediate accession to the Customs Union bring about the following argument: the same Honorable Almazbek Atambayev which quite often allows itself in the foreign policy of “heart throwing”, in case of refusal of Moscow, Minsk and Astana, can declare its rapprochement with the Americans. That is, the president of Kyrgyzstan can offer the Americans to remain at the military base in Manas after the 2014 of the year (after the withdrawal of the NATO contingent from Afghanistan). But today, ”say supporters of the idea of ​​an immediate rapprochement,“ Atambayev still continues to say that the Americans will have to transfer Manas to the direct use of Bishkek. However, the Kyrgyz president differs in that in the most surprising way he can simultaneously send representatives to Moscow to agree on Kyrgyzstan’s accession to the Customs Union and at the same time have a kind of dialogue with the US representatives about what there are, they say, on which "Manas" can remain American.

So, these "certain conditions" can be the transformation of the base at Manas, which now, like the facility in Ulyanovsk, is called the NATO Transit Center, at GMTU. Under this terrible abbreviation hides a civilian international transport hub, which may be deployed in Manas. By the way, the American side in the person of Robert Blake (Assistant Secretary of State) declares that, despite the withdrawal of its contingent from Afghanistan, I would like to retain Manas. Apparently, now the parties will practice what name to think of this object so that the presence of American citizens in military or civilian clothes in it does not cause concern, say, to Moscow (well, if Moscow’s opinion in this regard, someone is going to take into account ...)

In principle, one can try as much as possible to accuse Mr. Atambayev of playing two cards (Moscow and Washington) to extract benefits in relation to Kyrgyzstan, but we must not forget that we have our own Achilles heel in the form of the NATO TSC in Ulyanovsk ... If Moscow can talk about “Ulyanovsk profits”, then why not talk about “the profits of the Manas” Kyrgyz authorities?

In this regard, Atambayev’s desire to earn money on the interests of Americans in Central Asia (although Ambassador McFaul has assured everyone that such a concept as “US interests” is generally a contrived thing) cannot cause negativity by definition. “Ulyanovsk Syndrome” the opportunity to earn money on American trucking - as it turned out, the thing is infectious ... And whoever picked up this infection from (Moscow from Bishkek or Bishkek from Moscow) can be argued for a very long time.

But if so, then it turns out that the acceptance or non-acceptance of Kyrgyzstan into the Customs Union is a thing that is far from political background. The main thing that can become an obstacle to the entry of this state into the union, in which Belarus, Kazakhstan and Russia already belong, is a purely economy. And she, it must be admitted, in Kyrgyzstan is clearly far from even overly averaged parameters of the Customs Union.

But the Customs Union is still an organization that is called upon to bureaucratize (as far as it is possible in today's realities) a system of mutual trade, and therefore a single customs space, seemingly, should, by definition, benefit. There is a truth, and here is a nuance: simplification of customs procedures with the same Kyrgyzstan, as experts believe, may entail an even greater influx of labor migrants from this Central Asian state, for example, to Russia. With all due respect to Kyrgyzstan, while the standard of living here is much lower than in any of the three countries of the Customs Union, which means that the classical law can work: people can simply go to a place where life is better if customs barriers are removed. But we must not forget that today Kyrgyzstan appears in many reports as a solid transit point for Afghan heroin (and that very base in Manas can play a significant role here). And getting another drug source, and even with self-destruction of the barriers to drug trafficking across the territory of Kyrgyzstan, is already a matter of real concern.

Apparently, the economy and drug traffic are the reasons why the full-fledged entry of Kyrgyzstan into the Customs Union is still being postponed. But, as they say, the Kyrgyz authorities decided to take the initiative here too. So, last week, the very Omurbek Babanov, who held a meeting with Dmitry Medvedev, decided to arrange a cardinal purge in the Kyrgyz State Drug Control Service. Several high-ranking drug police officers have lost their posts: Vitaly Ozoraliev (head of the Kyrgyz Republican Drug Control Service), Damir Sagynbayev and Daniyar Otorbaev (both are Ozoraliev’s deputies). It is reported that control over the activities of the State Drug Control Service itself was entrusted more than a year ago by Atambayev himself, and during this time the hard-hitting aspects of the work of the top managers of the DSCC were found out. However, it should be noted that the dismissed themselves said that they were removed from their posts only on the basis of the gossip of the enemies. In general, lies and provocation ... Well, what was left for them to say: was it really possible that the prevention of drug trafficking through the territory of Kyrgyzstan was part of their earnings ...

In general, with all the rough edges of Moscow’s relations with official Bishkek, one can expect that the “road map” will lead to the fact that Kyrgyzstan will still become the fourth member of the Customs Union. Well, what will this accession result in? This is already a question ... The main thing is that the Customs Union does not turn into an analogue of the Eurozone as a result, where the entrances are brought to the point that the authorities of some European countries today do not know how from this “special regime zone” insolvent comrades "gently ask" ...

Materials used:
http://www.rg.ru/2012/07/26/drugs.html
http://www.odnako.org/blogs/show_19973/
http://www.km.ru/v-rossii/2012/07/26/geopoliticheskaya-strategiya-zapada-v-otnoshenii-respublik-bsssr/bishkek-mechets
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  1. Jipo
    Jipo 31 July 2012 08: 32
    +28
    To me, the leadership of Bishkek reminds me of the characters from "The Twelve Chairs" who dance on the pass and shout to passing tourists - "Give Dengi!" To eat a barbecue. Whoever gives more is a friend. I just want to say - Such friends for ..... th and in the museum.
    1. dreamer
      dreamer 31 July 2012 10: 07
      +17
      I don’t know, in all the news reports about the meeting of the LADY and Babanov it was announced as a "checkpoint" and "ineffective". Russia insisted on paying off the debt of $ 500, or rather, repaying it with shares of Kyrgyz enterprises and, in particular, the Dastan enterprise, and the Kyrgyz tried in every possible way to move away from this topic and asked for loans. It was stated that Russia does not want to deal with Atambayev and Babanov, because they are "caliphs for an hour" and are waiting for the elections and, based on their results, will build relations with the leadership of Kyrgyzstan
      1. Nir
        Nir 31 July 2012 17: 59
        -11
        And you give the visa regime cheers comrades .... let's drive komenty type in the neck of all the Gaster from Russia or Stop feeding the Asians black ... oh ... and like, where are they going to beat us like that.
        1. hrych
          hrych 31 July 2012 19: 06
          +3
          Isn’t it yourself disgusting to be despicable Gaster or to bite a very-very-high buzz?
          1. Nir
            Nir 31 July 2012 19: 12
            -16
            Quote: hrych
            Isn’t it yourself disgusting to be despicable Gaster or to bite a very-very-high buzz?

            Come on, today Gaster’s hosts are tomorrow, the experience of Europe shows exactly that. And since it has already been written earlier, we are mastering new respected territories, we are learning from Chinese merchants how to increase the arial habitat, so to speak.
            1. hrych
              hrych 31 July 2012 19: 41
              +8
              Something I did not see such an experience, as they lived in the medieval castles of Koburga, Grimaldi and other aristocracy with the pope, they live like that, and Romanians and Turks, as they cleaned the sewers, they clean them. And the Chinese comrades with their experience, as it were, did not come to you, they have a demographic problem, they eliminate girls at birth, as a result, up to hundreds of millions of young Chinese men will not be able to find half, if not from their frail neighbors. Russia is a nuclear country, they won’t climb, it’s not possible to win Vietnam, but in Central Asia there is something to profit from, even without fear.
              1. Nir
                Nir 1 August 2012 08: 05
                -3
                Quote: hrych
                Something I did not see such an experience, as they lived in the medieval castles of Koburga, Grimaldi and other aristocracy with the pope, they live like that, and Romanians and Turks, as they cleaned the sewers, they clean them. And the Chinese comrades with their experience, as it were, did not come to you, they have a demographic problem, they eliminate girls at birth, as a result, up to hundreds of millions of young Chinese men will not be able to find half, if not from their frail neighbors. Russia is a nuclear country, they won’t climb, it’s not possible to win Vietnam, but in Central Asia there is something to profit from, even without fear.

                He smiled ... well, at the expense of the girls, it will be more convenient for them there for you and not only to them, it’s already so clear lol as for nuclear weapons and so on, crap dear, yes yours from the Kremlin have already sold the same Chinese comrades for a long time; what kind of war are they teeming with you and their problems with brides are decided that it’s not marriage to the Far East so the Chinese groom, since normal guys not really drinkers left.
                1. hrych
                  hrych 1 August 2012 09: 11
                  +5
                  According to statistics, there are 60 thousand Chinese, no need to push dezu, and the reason for the visa regime, which you are so afraid of, was the period when the reception centers were overflowing with Chinese and Vietnamese, and in general, their desire for creeping capture had already been stopped. If you listen to some connoisseur with an Uzbek rag, "there are no more normal guys who don't drink properly" in Russia, what kind of nonsense are these massive marriages with the Chinese, a couple of cases no more. I don't have a single friend, a drunk, if they can drink well, not drunks, normal families, good work, in general in Russia there are too many young people with higher education. The Russians gave the shit cleaning to Gaster not because they got drunk, but because they themselves disdain. There is a certain percentage of degraded personalities, but believe me, it is not more than that of the Germans, and even more so of Central Asians. And the fact that Russia is in its sixtieth year without a big war is only thanks to our geniuses, rocket scientists and nuclear specialists, and China is crap but has not reached our current level. And what you call nuclear weapons crap is completely in vain, nuclear energy is not for you to burn dung.
                  1. Nir
                    Nir 1 August 2012 09: 38
                    0
                    Quote: hrych
                    If you listen to some connoisseur with an Uzbek rag, in Russia "there are no normal guys who don't really drink",

                    You’ll listen to a connoisseur with the Russian Federation with a rag, so in Wed Asia some illiterate muddy guys in dressing gowns and skullcaps go ...
                    ps
                    These are reputable templates. Like this wink
                    1. hrych
                      hrych 1 August 2012 10: 13
                      +5
                      That's right, in the mountains they copulate with donkeys, and they erect a slander on the whole people, and the level of culture and intelligence of migrant workers does not add respect to the people. In Central Asia, for me, at least, the standard of Turkmenistan, Bashi created a khanate, but the people are not poor and do not go to fight for a foreign land, and your Karimov sent to the people ... although you have enough minerals to provide at least people work and prosperity. In general, if you look, then if you introduce a visa regime, then, frightening you, Russia and Karimov will fly by sausage.
                  2. Nir
                    Nir 1 August 2012 16: 39
                    -1
                    Quote: hrych
                    according to statistics, 60 thousand, it’s not necessary to push the desa,

                    Did you believe what you wrote? The Chinese probably are only in the area of ​​the Teply Stan in Moscow for more than 60 thousand. I generally keep quiet about DalVost, dear desu, you are pushing, or is it your mantra like the Chinese of all that ... and so on. lol
                2. Evil Tatar
                  Evil Tatar 1 August 2012 12: 32
                  0
                  Quote: Nir
                  that you are teeming with and your problems with brides decide that it’s not a marriage in the Far East that is a Chinese groom, since there are no normal guys who do not drink properly.

                  Let your tongue dry, friend - ban named ...
                  You drive the bullshit without knowing what to play about.
                  You nnnnada yourself try to live with the Chinese as a wife, that's how the mixture will turn out ...
                  Although what mixture? All of you on one face, that Asians, that talkers ...
                  But not all Asians are talkers, I know for sure. Among them there are also och sensible people ...

                  How unlucky you are, chatterbox ...
                3. Region-25.rus
                  Region-25.rus 24 August 2012 17: 31
                  0
                  In part I have to agree! ((Alas! The Far East region, like even Siberia .... almost the fiefdom of the (unofficial) "guests" from the "Celestial Empire"! am
            2. Grumbler
              Grumbler 31 July 2012 22: 49
              +4
              Quote: Nir
              Come on, today Gaster’s hosts are tomorrow, the experience of Europe shows exactly that. And as already written earlier, we are mastering new territories
              Wonderful "comment" of the representative of Gastarbeiterstan, for his frankness +. Those who like to fraternize with these comrades should remember that wherever you kiss them ... they will have a jop everywhere !!!
              1. Nir
                Nir 1 August 2012 08: 08
                -3
                Quote: Grunt
                Wonderful "comment" of the representative of Gastarbeiterstan, for his frankness +. Those who like to fraternize with these comrades should remember that wherever you kiss them ... they will have a jop everywhere !!!

                Jopa is not a jopa, but as they say lol . What do you think they should express gratitude to you or something for how they live there in bestial conditions and even throw them when they have to pay their salaries, they just call the FMS for grandmas and disperse unnecessary workers.
                1. Grumbler
                  Grumbler 1 August 2012 19: 14
                  +3
                  Quote: Nir
                  What do you think they should express gratitude to you or something for how they live there in bestial conditions and even throw them when they have to pay their salaries, they just call the FMS for grandmas and disperse unnecessary workers.
                  Their gratitude is absolutely on the side to me, I do not like so let these "plasterers" stay at home and live in ideal conditions, or are formalized as it should be and pay taxes in accordance with Russian legislation, then there will be no such excesses. And Russians are thrown at the "grandmothers" ...
                  In general, I myself am one of the Russian builders listed in the Red Book, therefore I know the situation from the inside, I am often given Central Asian "allies" to the brigade and I can tell a lot of interesting things ... and in my memory there was not a single case of non-payment of earned , although there are a great many rumors about this!
                  1. Region-25.rus
                    Region-25.rus 24 August 2012 17: 41
                    0
                    Quote: Grunt
                    I am often given a team of Central Asian "allies"


                    Imagine the situation - I’m a designer, I’m running an object, the customer hired a team: the foreman is an Armenian, something finished there so cool in Yerevan that two to five are under repair, the foreman is his countryman who doesn’t understand the same way and says Russian through the word, and commands a team that neither in Russian nor even in Armenian a word laughing
                2. Flanker
                  Flanker 1 August 2012 21: 39
                  +2
                  Conditions, dear, they themselves choose and create. If you don’t like it, nobody holds it. And for a modest salary you can live humanly, if you want. They choose their own savings and live in bestial conditions.
                3. Region-25.rus
                  Region-25.rus 24 August 2012 17: 37
                  0
                  Quote: Nir
                  they simply call the FMS for money and disperse unnecessary workers.


                  But here I disagree! The percentage of travel workers is very, very low !!!!!! It's just that our stupid "businessmen" still do not distinguish a finger from a woman .... and therefore they are guided by the price without thinking about quality! And the quality that the "brothers" from Central Asia have that from China ... I just keep silent! There are pleasant exceptions! I do not argue! Now here is one such comrade from China erecting partitions at my facility and leveling with terracotta ... it would be nice to see how he uses it! As the customer put the tiles in the bathroom, as far as my eyes are trained and then .... I was pleasantly surprised! But!!!! This is an EXCEPTION BUT NOT A RULE!
    2. alexg
      alexg 31 July 2012 11: 00
      +22
      Worse than smart enemies - only cunning friends. !!!
      1. foxhaund31
        foxhaund31 31 July 2012 16: 13
        +8
        aleksg, standings !!!!
      2. valton
        valton 31 July 2012 16: 24
        +7
        A betrayer of once, a betrayal and then.
      3. Krasnodar
        Krasnodar 31 July 2012 16: 58
        +6
        and helpful fools who do not know how to think strategically simply because they are petty crooks!
    3. pribolt
      pribolt 1 August 2012 01: 01
      +1
      Quote: JIPO

      To me, the leadership of Bishkek reminds me of the characters from "The Twelve Chairs" who dance on the pass and shout to passing tourists - "Give Dengi!" To eat a barbecue. Whoever gives more is a friend. I just want to say - Such friends for ..... th and in the museum.

      For koment + In Kyrgyzstan over the past 20 years, how many presidents have changed of them I don’t remember who left of their own free will. It’s stupid to build serious relations with Kyrgyzstan now, let’s decide first, crumple.
      As Krasnodar said, I also do not see serious politicians so far only petty crooks. And a new wave of Gaster to Russia? What for?
  2. Deniska999
    Deniska999 31 July 2012 08: 34
    +8
    They also require money from us ..
    1. Recon
      Recon 31 July 2012 08: 46
      +6
      and they themselves must half a billion
  3. Alexander Romanov
    Alexander Romanov 31 July 2012 09: 03
    +6
    Fools rule the world, and the world votes for these fools and even fights and dies. Where is the common sense?
  4. tan0472
    tan0472 31 July 2012 09: 36
    +2
    Small states can be relatively independent only through high technology. If this is not the case, then you have to survive to the best of your skills and abilities (alternately smiling at everyone who needs it).
  5. Middle-brother
    Middle-brother 31 July 2012 09: 43
    +3
    "The same venerable Almazbek Atambaev" did not chew his ties with Mishiko at the same desk? As if they are graduates of the same educational institution

    1. Region-25.rus
      Region-25.rus 24 August 2012 17: 43
      0
      but for an example read this very article from the same site http://topwar.ru/17795-model-predatelstva-gruzii-vo-vremeni.html

      and especially komenty))
  6. Nursultan
    Nursultan 31 July 2012 09: 47
    0
    Do not take in the vehicle. And there are so many Kyrgyzs in Kazakhstan and in other countries of the CU.
    1. lotus04
      lotus04 31 July 2012 11: 52
      0
      Quote: Nursultan
      Do not take in the vehicle. And there are so many Kyrgyzs in Kazakhstan and in other countries of the CU.


      Well yes! And if you take it, what will it give us? The labor force from Kyrgyzstan will become cheaper even more ?! And what else can we get from them, except for even more Gaster !?
      1. Nursultan
        Nursultan 31 July 2012 14: 54
        0
        Quote: lotus04

        Quote: Nursultan
        Do not take in the vehicle. And there are so many Kyrgyzs in Kazakhstan and in other countries of the CU.

        Well yes! And if you take it, what will it give us? The labor force from Kyrgyzstan will become cheaper even more ?! And what else can we get from them, except for even more Gaster !?

        not only cheap labor and big drug traffic will come from there !!! Do you want to open the way for drugs? Now it’s hard to catch drug trafficking, and if they join the TS we ourselves will open the way for them
  7. borisst64
    borisst64 31 July 2012 09: 57
    +1
    At the mention of Kyrgyzstan, right before your eyes is an area where people are alive alive!
  8. Skiff
    Skiff 31 July 2012 10: 05
    +8
    "In principle, you can try to blame Mr. Atambaev as much as you like that he is going to play two cards (Moscow and Washington) in order to gain benefits in relation to Kyrgyzstan, but we must not forget that we have our own Achilles' heel in the form of the NATO TSC in Ulyanovsk ... If Moscow can talk about "Ulyanovsk profit", then why can't we talk about "Manas profit" to the Kyrgyz authorities? "

    And this quote says it all, otherwise we pretend that we are worried that the NATO bases are growing around us, but we don’t notice what is happening inside us. Sheer lies and hypocrisy.
    1. Beck
      Beck 31 July 2012 12: 21
      -2
      Scythian.
      And where did you come from among the patriots. But welcome. I welcome sanity.
      1. Nir
        Nir 31 July 2012 17: 59
        -5
        And you give the visa regime cheers comrades .... let's drive komenty type in the neck of all the Gaster from Russia or Stop feeding the Asians black ... oh ... and like, where are they going to beat us like that.
    2. TAGIR
      TAGIR 1 August 2012 14: 19
      +1
      I want to refute. There is no base in Ulyanovsk, unlike Manas. In Kyrgyzstan, the airfield is completely at the disposal of the Americans and everything is fenced off and guarded by the Americans. In Ulyanov, a transport center is expected. Volga-Dnepr brought containers and reloaded them onto the railway platform (railway line directly to the airport)
  9. Vasily79
    Vasily79 31 July 2012 10: 05
    +4
    Although Belarusians are with the Old Man, they are far from poor, skilled and friendly people. The Kazakhs, too, did not empty-handedly enter the TS and the Kyrgyz with what? Blackmail or Eastern traded? The first gut is thin; the second TS is not a bazaar. Strategic location, so wherever you spit everything is good. Like a fish needs a bicycle.
    1. Alx1miK
      Alx1miK 31 July 2012 10: 54
      +5
      Quote: Vasily79
      Although Belarusians are with the Old Man, they are far from poor, skilled and friendly people.

      We (Russia) are very lucky that the Old Man is still in power. Very lucky, and they too.
      1. 755962
        755962 31 July 2012 11: 37
        +3
        Wait for the elections in Kyrgyzstan, and there it will be seen ..
        1. Vasily79
          Vasily79 31 July 2012 12: 00
          +1
          Eugene, tell me what is attractive to us from an economic point of view?
          1. 755962
            755962 31 July 2012 20: 13
            +3
            Quote: Vasily79
            Eugene, tell me what is attractive to us from an economic point of view?

            The economic side is not the main thing. Kyrgyzstan has become the scene of a clash of foreign policy interests of Russia and the United States.
            1. Vasily79
              Vasily79 31 July 2012 22: 00
              0
              Quote: 755962
              .Kyrgyzstan has become the scene of a clash of foreign policy interests of Russia and the United States.

              This is not an arena for strife, but our truly mutually beneficial work, oddly enough it sounds to us and there are enough Tajiks and fear that they will act there. you don’t worry, the key to Asia lies in Afghanistan, but Syria is serious.
        2. Alx1miK
          Alx1miK 31 July 2012 15: 13
          +3
          It is not known what will be there. One Belarus remained with us, the rest with foam at the mouth are moving to the West.
          1. El13
            El13 31 July 2012 16: 58
            0
            Yes, they do not move west, but flutter between Russia and the West, as during intercourse ... (I mean the elite)
            1. Alx1miK
              Alx1miK 1 August 2012 09: 47
              0
              Quote: El13
              flutter
              facing the West and already "5th point" to the East. STE bad comrades, because of the actions of the elites, the people suffer.
          2. Nir
            Nir 31 July 2012 18: 39
            -8
            Quote: Alx1miK
            It is not known what will be there. One Belarus remained with us, the rest with foam at the mouth are moving to the West.

            And you didn’t ask such a simple question: Why? It’s strange, after all, you kind of (from your own words) feed the whole of Middle Asia + the Caucasus, the most beautiful ones, but who doesn’t want to be friends with you except Belarus, as you write? It’s strange because it turns out ... hmm ... but is something wrong with you? Do not ask such a question? No? but it is necessary, how to say it is necessary Fedya.
            1. Alx1miK
              Alx1miK 1 August 2012 09: 53
              +1
              "Do not do good to people, then you will not get evil" Heard, no? Although, even if enemy hordes are trampled on any country of the former Empire (hell knows which country) we will defend ourselves, even if they hate us with all their bodies. That is why we and VelikoRussi do not cling to little things and see the whole picture.
    2. Nir
      Nir 31 July 2012 18: 01
      -8
      Quote: Vasily79
      Although Belarusians are with the Old Man, they are far from poor, skilled and friendly people. The Kazakhs, too, did not empty-handedly enter the TS and the Kyrgyz with what? Blackmail or Eastern traded? The first gut is thin; the second TS is not a bazaar. Strategic location, so wherever you spit everything is good. Like a fish needs a bicycle.

      And what for on the forum about the empire stink then? Do not, well, do not meddle, why are we raising a buch when the next NATO base appears from scratch with such an attitude? We don’t need a goat slaughter so don’t get horned into music.
      1. Vasily79
        Vasily79 31 July 2012 19: 03
        +1
        Quote: Nir

        And what for on the forum about the empire stink then?

        What empire? The union broke up, you fled, and now we and the extreme cool, I about the economic side and read the comments below
        tm70-71.
        Quote: Nir
        Do not, well, do not meddle

        Yes, you read the article
        Quote: Nir
        why are we raising a buch when the next NATO base appears from scratch with such an attitude?

        And in Manas Magdonalds
        Quote: Nir
        We don’t need a goat slaughter so don’t get horned into music.

        Thank you donkey
        1. Nir
          Nir 31 July 2012 19: 09
          -4
          Quote: Vasily79
          What empire? The union broke up, you fled, and now we and the extreme

          They themselves collapsed and scooped up the wreckage, not our buys and gastrices, but your purebred dads, were booming in Bialowieza wink But like they fled, and what have you and I to catch once we ourselves have destroyed the union. Sorry to ask? thanks, wait, what will we ask for back? hardly the wrong times. Yes, and they got your slogans, we’ll have enough to feed the Middle Asian type, and so we fed ourselves and all in the back of the country. With this approach, you’re dear to us, only Nauru will obey you because their voice is cheaper in the right cases. And the elite of Kyrgyzstan has long been looking westward to the west, then it knows where the gesheft will be more.
          1. Vasily79
            Vasily79 31 July 2012 19: 19
            +1
            You are from Uzbekistan
            1. Nir
              Nir 31 July 2012 19: 23
              -4
              Quote: Vasily79
              You are from Uzbekistan

              No with Papua New Guinea lol Didn’t you try to look at the flag? Born when there. By the way, does this have any sacred meaning for you?
              1. Vasily79
                Vasily79 31 July 2012 19: 37
                +1
                No. Now I understand why such unreasonable aggression. And you will like blackmail.
                1. Nir
                  Nir 1 August 2012 08: 11
                  -2
                  Quote: Vasily79
                  Now I understand why such unreasonable aggression. And you will like blackmail.

                  What aggression dear wink it's funny to me to read the comments of the forum fighters "knowledgeable" in politics and history and who have one answer for everything: the foreigners are to blame for everything, while well, they really want to steer and play the superpower empire tsykay how you like to write on the smaller brothers of their neighbors republics. laughing
                  1. Alx1miK
                    Alx1miK 1 August 2012 10: 03
                    0
                    Quote: Nir
                    foreigners are to blame for everything

                    Open the textbook of the history of Russia (RI, the USSR and indeed) and read, all of a sudden that a new spot.
                    Quote: Nir
                    Born when there.

                    This explains such hatred and misunderstanding of the Russian mentality.
                    Quote: Nir
                    forum fighters "knowledgeable" in politics and history

                    I don’t know how old you are, but you speak like an "advanced" schoolboy. Although I have met 40ka summer fools, there is not much difference. After reading your posts, we can conclude that you have never read the history of Russia. Well, or heard somewhere from afar. If you think that a person who writes on the Internet "glory to Russia" "I fought, I was wounded" "soon all the republics will be reunited" a person must be a schoolboy with a bunch of complexes, then I feel sorry for you, honestly. There are quite mature people on the Internet with well-established views. Especially in this forum. If you want to find "forum fighters" go to the "opposition" forum. This is where the seedlings of such personalities are. Not with someone else's monastery with its own charter, they don't like that here.
                    1. Nir
                      Nir 1 August 2012 10: 30
                      0
                      Quote: Alx1miK
                      Especially in this forum. If you want to find "forum fighters" go to the "opposition" forum. This is where the seedlings of such personalities are. Not with someone else's monastery with its own charter, they don't like that here.

                      And you will see who exactly sits at such forums and shares their views on the country, youth and youth ... the question is when the older generation will go to be replaced by precisely these, the conclusion is lost by the generation of the 90s and instead of understanding they are sprinkling them on the swamp areas and We need a dialogue of recruits and a bunch of Nashists can not do here.
                      1. TAGIR
                        TAGIR 1 August 2012 14: 25
                        0
                        When we grow old, you grow up, and when we die you if you do not grow older, you will not live
          2. Grumbler
            Grumbler 1 August 2012 19: 22
            +1
            Quote: Nir
            And the elite of Kyrgyzstan has long been looking westward to the west, then it knows where the gesheft will be more.
            Again there! My dear fellow, you have to work, the economy of your "camp" needs to be raised, and not to seek out gesheft on the side, then you won't have to go after the "gesheft".
      2. TAGIR
        TAGIR 1 August 2012 14: 21
        0
        You were not asked
  10. anchonsha
    anchonsha 31 July 2012 10: 57
    +5
    What to do with the post-Soviet states, how to act a big, confusing policy. policy. Good USA, they will make anyone their friend for the sake of their interests. And when their interests pass, then they don’t need countries either. Russia cannot do this. So you have to suffer with different Atanbaevs, and they again betray you.
    1. Beck
      Beck 31 July 2012 12: 26
      -12
      Ankhonche.
      Indeed. That you, the great martyr Ankhos, suffer. Spit and rub it. Fence off everything and live yourself. It is quiet when no one is near.
      1. Nir
        Nir 31 July 2012 18: 36
        -6
        Quote: Beck
        Indeed. That you, the great martyr Ankhos, suffer. Spit and rub it. Fence off everything and live yourself. It is quiet when no one is near.

        Yes, he thinks, for our peoples, our forum politician and fighter Anhoshechka
  11. Vito
    Vito 31 July 2012 11: 21
    +3
    Well what can I say, the article almost surprised me! As they say an ordinary Asian bazaar! All of us, dear colleagues, have long noticed how these poor Asian countries behave towards RUSSIA. They periodically try to raise and bargain for themselves all sorts of dividends. You can’t let them go. Not only the USA, but also CHINA is trying to get in and you have to babysit these soyuznichki from time to time and change their diapers.
    And where to go?
    Pampers only need to be tightened sometimes, so as not to be naughty!
    1. Nir
      Nir 31 July 2012 18: 28
      -5
      Quote: Vito
      Well what can I say, the article almost surprised me! As they say an ordinary Asian bazaar! All of us, dear colleagues, have long noticed how these poor Asian countries behave towards RUSSIA. They periodically try to raise and bargain for themselves all sorts of dividends. You can’t let them go. Not only the USA, but also CHINA is trying to get in and you have to babysit and change diapers with these allies from time to time. And where to go? Pampers only need to be tightened sometimes so as not to get too naughty!

      Yes, why not, enough to feed the Asians, we give a visa regime and drive everyone back to the villages, let them live themselves, but isn't it? No? The country, and after all, is a suitable topic, and there is a buy-and-not-as-Asian wink
      ps
      hold your diapers for yourself dear owners do not need.
      1. wow
        wow 31 July 2012 19: 06
        +3
        You need a master, oh, you do. And also in doctors, engineers, teachers and other qualified workforce. I know from my numerous business trips to Frunze, Kant, Lugovaya and others in the 80s. A boss with a "portfolio" - yes, you can do it, but you can work as "specialists", you have to study for a long time and tediously, but there is obviously no desire or ability! I, at least, did not notice such among the indigenous population in the above years.
        1. Nir
          Nir 31 July 2012 19: 16
          -4
          Quote: yo-mine
          You need a master, oh, you do. And also in doctors, engineers, teachers and other qualified workforce. I know from my numerous business trips to Frunze, Kant, Lugovaya and others in the 80s. A boss with a "portfolio" - yes, you can do it, but you can work as "specialists", you have to study for a long time and tediously, but there is obviously no desire or ability! I, at least, did not notice such among the indigenous population in the above years.

          Oh, you are a specialist travel agent. Look at my flag, Kant, Frunze. Where have you found such cities in Uzbekistan? Aryets, well, where are we without you, the white mass is the master. You would be better respected in your barn would have looked, and would have collected your femen from all over Europe and Muscovy back to you, and you have done a bit more as I remember in the sciences of the ancient confusing, and you're talking about doctors and engineers ah ah wink .
          1. hrych
            hrych 31 July 2012 19: 27
            +2
            Well, we Aryans, so what, you go dark, is not bad either. What is the problem? What kind of inferiority complex, not everyone should be white, someone should be yellow and black. Well, you have decided to flog the donkeys, so what, the tradition of the Central Asian peoples, and traditions must be respected.
            1. Nir
              Nir 31 July 2012 19: 33
              0
              Quote: hrych
              Well, we Aryans, so what, you go dark, is not bad either. What is the problem? What kind of inferiority complex, not everyone should be white, someone should be yellow and black. Well, you have decided to flog the donkeys, so what, the tradition of the Central Asian peoples, and traditions must be respected.

              Ai shaitan and well-versed mass wink he even knows about the cattle, he can see and indulge, he has time to keep his memory, he’s a naughty head naughty however lol
              ps
              on the issue of the complex, yes to us personally it’s violet who is of some color, but you don’t and don’t have to write that it’s not so, we know, we saw and heard how they like to throw words like black and white ... lol
              1. hrych
                hrych 31 July 2012 19: 57
                +2
                Have you ever wondered why white people are called pale-faced, and black is black ... who?
                1. slas
                  slas 31 July 2012 22: 34
                  +2
                  Quote: hrych
                  Have you ever wondered why white people are called pale-faced, and black is black ... who?

                  laughing Ai shaitan ai cheered laughing laughing laughing
              2. Jipo
                Jipo 31 July 2012 20: 14
                +2
                So many words .... What are you proving to whom? The fact that Kyrgyzstan behaves like a beggar deny? Or, is it that the grandmothers took and then threw (I mean the American base) is also not true? You can’t say anything about Uzbekistan, of course, but Andijan will repeat again, the press will start, where Karimov will run, right again at the CSTO. Why argue, who is cooler, now everything as a whole is in a big city ... not if Gorbachev had not merged the Union with Yeltsin, I think it would have been better than now, more calmly. And if anyone wants communism, then with our salaries to your Tashkent prices, it would be nice.
                1. Nir
                  Nir 1 August 2012 08: 41
                  -1
                  Quote: JIPO
                  So many words .... What are you proving to whom? The fact that Kyrgyzstan behaves like a beggar deny? Or, is it that the grandmothers took and then threw (I mean the American base) is also not true? You can’t say anything about Uzbekistan, of course, but Andijan will repeat again, the press will start, where Karimov will run, right again at the CSTO. Why argue, who is cooler, now everything as a whole is in a big city ... not if Gorbachev had not merged the Union with Yeltsin, I think it would have been better than now, more calmly. And if anyone wants communism, then with our salaries to your Tashkent prices, it would be nice.

                  And no one proves anything to anyone wink
                  1. Jipo
                    Jipo 1 August 2012 11: 45
                    0
                    Quote: Nir
                    And no one proves anything to anyone

                    Noticeably. smile
                    1. Nir
                      Nir 1 August 2012 12: 50
                      -1
                      Quote: JIPO
                      Noticeably.

                      Because for urapatriots it’s all God's dew, but thinking at the template level, so there’s nothing to break your forehead against a blank wall and prove something to them wink
      2. Vito
        Vito 1 August 2012 00: 53
        +1
        Nir,
        Quote: Nir
        hold your diapers for yourself dear owners do not need.

        Well, you decided in the evening whose diapers you will carry, dear?
        American, al ours, there is another option with the CHINESE!
        And I haven’t talked about guest workers yet (you can see that you really have a complex), my "friends" have many other means of pressure on you! And games with migrants are for the poor!
        But in general you are well done, for all your people keep the defense here! drinks
        1. Nir
          Nir 1 August 2012 08: 15
          -1
          Quote: Vito
          And I haven’t talked about guest workers yet (you can see that you really have a complex), my "friends" have many other means of pressure on you! And games with migrants are for the poor!

          So you have one answer to the Force of Strategic Deterrence by him Onanishchenko except this. Well, how do you still influence the buy then? Well how? Yes, while the forum strategists haven’t come up with anything wink
        2. Nir
          Nir 1 August 2012 13: 12
          0
          Quote: Vito
          But in general you are well done, for all your people keep the defense here!

          Well, thanks for the compliment, I don’t know for everyone or not, but a sober and not blinkered look on the other side of the barricade is also needed on this forum. I understand that many do not like it, but the fact is a stubborn thing that you can’t get anywhere wink
  12. Delink
    Delink 31 July 2012 11: 44
    +1
    Kyrgyzstan does not produce anything, as far as I know. Why do we need it with its low economic level in the TS ?. Just for the sake of amers. So this will not happen until the age of 14. Chasing two hares you will not catch a single.
    1. Vito
      Vito 31 July 2012 11: 57
      +2
      Delink (3), Greetings. Because our Asian "friends" are not so predictable, we should keep our fingers close to their Adam's apple! This is the underbelly of our HOMELAND and it is soft and vulnerable!
      Geopolitics is an interesting and troublesome thing!
  13. romb
    romb 31 July 2012 12: 04
    +3
    With regard to Kyrgyzstan, it is necessary to separate economic prospects from political realities.
    In terms of economics, the entry of Kyrgyzstan into the CU will yield little positive. In particular, we can confidently assume that several hundred thousand citizens of the three countries can remain without work because they will not be able to compete on equal terms with cheap labor from Kyrgyzstan.
    With regard to political processes - Kyrgyzstan should not be lost, because this will give geopolitical "friends" a kind of carte blanche, which in turn will lead to an abrupt increase in extremism throughout the Central Asian region.
    Here you need to very competently "separate the wheat from the chaff".
    1. El13
      El13 31 July 2012 17: 42
      0
      Yes, but the solution to the issue of joining the CU should be attributed to the term for after 2014, setting as one of the conditions the departure of the Americans before, no, no ...
  14. Vasily79
    Vasily79 31 July 2012 12: 13
    +1
    Vito
    Quote: Vito
    Because our Asian "friends" are so unpredictable, we must keep our fingers close to their Adam's apple!

    Special services should be kept, but feed like the USSR is not necessary. And besides, their clans took everything in a row that if you are Russian and have a business, you’ll go or bury him. The megaphone does not know how to get out of a tight 7 years and I generally keep quiet a trifle.
    1. Vito
      Vito 31 July 2012 13: 31
      +2
      Vasily79 (1). Good afternoon, but who argues!
      The special services there must first of all work and what for a long time already!
      The policy of our authorities in relation to their neighbors, too, to put it mildly lame (and on both legs), work in relation to "clients" should be carried out constantly, and not from time to time, when something is brewing again! There are many tools for friendly cooperation, besides the stupid pumping of money into the corrupt elite of KYRGYZIA.
      Will is needed and desire!
      1. Vasily79
        Vasily79 31 July 2012 13: 54
        +1
        I agree, but I’m afraid having come there without tough measures to restore order, I can’t do it, and bringing one clan to power, as in Chechnya, means swelling money and not small but the territory of the Russian Federation. And give them a finger, just the top and influential clans do not know what else to snatch already drunk and I want more. And how do you do business on guest workers, they are sent here with debts and control the money back system, and in reality families receive about 30% of earnings in Russia.
  15. Miha_Skif
    Miha_Skif 31 July 2012 12: 27
    +2
    The situation with Kyrgyzstan has been discussed many times on the site, I do not want to chew the same thing again.
    I personally respect the fact that, despite all the opposition from the most powerful Western machine in the world reorganization (just remember the Osh events, the successful Orange Revolution, the presence of a US military base, total corruption and the collapse of all industry in the country, etc. and etc.), and the people and leadership of Kyrgyzstan are still striving to unite with Russia. Unlike the seemingly fraternal Ukraine, not to mention other states such as Georgia.

    External influence is continuous in the economic, political, ethno-religious, and information spheres (it’s enough to recall how all the liberal Russian media interviewed Atambayev).

    And the effect is very powerful. There are no fools in the State Department. Only a fool can not see the strategic geopolitical position of Kyrgyzstan. Kyrgyzstan is, so to speak, the key to the whole of Central Asia, the very mythical selves, for whom you can dictate your will to the whole region. In Central Asia, water is EVERYTHING. It is in the Kyrgyz mountains that almost all water flows of Kazakhstan and Uzbekistan are formed. The most fertile Ferghana Valley, where a significant part of the population of Uzbekistan is concentrated (I do not remember exactly about a third), is an intermountain hollow surrounded on all sides by Kyrgyz ranges. Well, you can also mention the transit opportunities of Kyrgyzstan ...

    In general, I think that Russia, and especially Kazakhstan, and Belarus, should not hesitate to take all measures to include Kyrgyzstan in the Customs Union and the Eurasian Economic Community.
    1. tm70-71
      tm70-71 31 July 2012 20: 15
      +2
      I beg you, do not take us anywhere
  16. red 015
    red 015 31 July 2012 12: 37
    0
    campaign Medvedev talked to them heart to heart lol
  17. AK-74-1
    AK-74-1 31 July 2012 13: 39
    +1
    It is very unpleasant that people are in power who are often guided by their own mercantile interests. Haggling is a dead end way. Although practice shows the simplest. It is very unpleasant if Kyrgyzstan becomes one more "star" on the star-striped sheet.
  18. valton
    valton 31 July 2012 16: 17
    +1
    "And now the members of the Customs Union (Russia, Kazakhstan and Belarus) face the question: to take or not to take ..."

    A betrayer of once, a betrayal and then.
    1. Nir
      Nir 31 July 2012 18: 46
      -5
      Quote: valton
      "And now the members of the Customs Union (Russia, Kazakhstan and Belarus) face the question: to take or not to take ..."

      Well, well, just take it or not take it ... yes, for the sake of the prestige of this union, you and Timbuktu will accept not only Kyrgyzstan ... it's good to do what we think, Atambayev thinks more and more. climb like tudu or not, or maybe amer type will give more. lol
      1. slas
        slas 31 July 2012 22: 37
        +2
        Quote: Nir
        Or maybe amers will give more.

        will give of course. Glands will massage you
        1. Nir
          Nir 1 August 2012 08: 18
          +1
          Quote: slas
          Glands massage you

          Dreaming Oh well lol And so, for your independent follow-up, it’s better ... or you look at the NATs you want or don’t want to and stuff George with military supplies ... ah ah ah whose cow would moo dear lol
          1. slas
            slas 2 August 2012 08: 39
            +1
            Quote: Nir
            Dreaming Well, well, lol And so, for your independent follow-up, it’s better ..

            Yes, I follow, I follow the mess. I agree. hi But the same mutoten and you have so whose ass ....... laughing laughing laughing
  19. tm70-71
    tm70-71 31 July 2012 17: 21
    +4
    Our gasters in Russia and Kazakhstan already have more than a lemon, (we are only somewhere around 5500000), and as far as the economy is concerned, we can shove you cheap Chinese consumer goods, we don’t know how to wait anymore. There is no point in waiting for the elections, we don’t have normal politicians (I wanted to write honest ones) they will throw it and they will not blink an eye, water resources, there are also a lot of questions, big investments are needed, and who will guarantee that after a while they will not send stars to heaven to look, and until it comes to construction, half will be stolen (to the grandmother don’t go). So what the fuck you hemorrhoids?
    1. Roman Skomorokhov
      Roman Skomorokhov 1 August 2012 08: 41
      +1
      And hell knows! Perhaps just to make things worse. For, as you have noticed, there are no honest politicians, but to wake up one day and find out that something epoch-making performed by China or the USA is under construction is unpleasant.
      Yes, it seems not quite at hand, but still ... A good neighbor is definitely better than a filthy relative, and a bad world is better than a good quarrel. And some quarrel (whose ears stick out from Manas) and know how to buy with giblets.
  20. darkman70
    darkman70 31 July 2012 19: 08
    +1
    I believe that the entry of Kyrgyzstan into the customs union will be beneficial to both states.
    Firstly: entry into the customs union does not affect the influx or outflow of migrant workers from Kyrgyzstan to Russia. Kyrgyz people go to Russia without it. Why should it affect this at all?
    Secondly: it will strengthen economic ties, and since little is produced in Kyrgyzstan, a vehicle in the economic plan of Russia will be even more profitable.
    Thirdly: for some reason, on the Russian site, again everyone forgot that many Russians still live in Kyrgyzstan and Bishkek is also still a Russian-speaking city. Don't they need help?
    True, for this you need to block drug trafficking and the government in Kyrgyzstan must have a constant vector, and not rush about like a weather vane in all directions. And these are not easy tasks.
    1. tm70-71
      tm70-71 31 July 2012 20: 04
      +4
      There are few Russians living in Kyrgyzstan, and all the attempts of your rulers to somehow help us end with embarrassment, the ambassador is the most natural ....... we survive by ourselves, the city, and even everyone speaks Russian, but it's good-for-nothing another road, which is already 20 years old, but only Bishkek and Chui oblast. Our Russian Drama Theater has a lot of debt for energy, even if your embassy would help here, no, they will write off all the dibs. How many Russians will remain in 20 years, if in the beginning 90 we had almost a lemon, and now 300 thousand . of which more than 200 thousand pensioners
      1. SSR
        SSR 31 July 2012 22: 48
        +1
        Dear, with all due respect ... there is still Osh.
        there are Russians there,. but already where there used to be Cossack settlements .. now already in the Jalalabad region .. in places like Arslan-Bob .. villages like Arkhangelsk Nikolskoye .. yes there .. no Russians
        1. tm70-71
          tm70-71 1 August 2012 14: 13
          +1
          Only two thousand Slavs remained in two areas and that’s all .....
  21. SSR
    SSR 31 July 2012 22: 44
    +4
    sorry ... put many cons. and for some comments seropogonikam pluses.
    Here they lit a fucking forum ... Gaster is not Gaster .. yeah, smart-ass atambay ... smart-ass Karimov ... only Nazarbayev with a big letter and Lukashenka ... they are "smart-ass" of all ... plus (and the Aliyevs).
    but in the end ... what? we ate blue chickens ...
    our industry is ruined by us
    our Russians are left in the republics by us.
    our young soldiers died both as Peacekeepers and as Warriors and simply in a crumbling army.
    now what?
    we blame on those whom we ourselves threw in Bialowieza ... such as oh, here we are .. and you are so ungrateful ...
    and these ungrateful ... ate their blue hens ... and lost their young guys in wars ...
    we pissed off a lot ... we need to build again ... but on different principles and foundations.
    1. Nir
      Nir 1 August 2012 08: 20
      0
      Quote: SSR
      sorry ... put a lot of cons. And for some Comments to seropogoniks pluses. Here they lit a shit forum ... Gaster is not Gaster .. yeah atambay smart-ass ... Karimov smart-ass ... only Nazarbayev will write with a big letter and Lukashenko ... they are "smart-ass" of all ... (and the Aliyevs). and in the end ... what? We ate blue chickens ... our industry was destroyed by us, our Russians were left in the republics by us. our young soldiers died both as Peacekeepers and as Warriors and just in a crumbling army. and now what? we blame those whom we threw in the white ... like oh, here we are ... and you are so ungrateful ... and these ungrateful ones .. They ate their blue chickens ... and lost their young guys in wars ... we pissed away a lot ... we need to build anew ... but on different principles and foundations.

      Comrade, where did you find such an adequacy among the super duper geopolitics from the forum? You one big fat plus laughing
  22. Magadan
    Magadan 1 August 2012 04: 43
    +2
    No offense to the Kyrgyz, but I would not like to see frankly weak states in this alliance. At first, we would like to grow stronger ourselves, taking advantage of our more or less promising economies. And then the core has not really been created yet, and already we are starting to talk about taking dwarfs who just need help.
  23. tm70-71
    tm70-71 1 August 2012 10: 56
    +1
    Russian is not a nationality, at least in our country, it’s a state of mind, I know many Kyrgyz and Uzbeks and Kazakhs and Dungans, Uighurs, I’m generally silent about Koreans, whose souls can be said to be Russian. Why, why did they all get education then 20 years ago, the habitat also played its part, I am generally silent about mixed families. If I had English, I would have a soul like the Anglo-Saxons, but this goes for it, although Islam does its job, in this case it is a deterrent. This is my opinion and only mine
  24. Evil Tatar
    Evil Tatar 1 August 2012 12: 58
    +2
    Quote: Nir
    Comrade, where did you find such an adequacy among the super duper geopolitics from the forum? You one big fat plus

    What did I see adequate and immediately mistook for a sweet speech addressed to me?
    Did you feel the fraternal weakness, or rather did you?
    Can all the people of Russia repent before you for the Bialowieza agreements?
    You are cooking!
    These are your "brothers" from the money they paid for, they put together slaughter squads ... But what about from the party treasury of the republic, but because of the hillock ...
    It was they who slaughtered Russians in the capitals of the former Soviet Union republics of the USSR and on the outskirts - men, women, places with children, sometimes not having time to be born, old people with old women, sometimes they also slaughtered their fellow tribesmen in revenge or because of clan concepts, and simply as sane, strong competing neighbors ...
    These are your fellow tribesmen, with your consent they took away housing, throwing Russians out onto the street and I know for sure that not everyone got to Russia alive.
    Piss to touch only the military in uniform ... Why did the "heroes" piss off? Ah-ah-ah, they were afraid to grab them ... They were shaking for the stinking skin ... They even pissed off in a crowd - the humidity in the area was incredible ...

    Now want to go back? Imagine yourself as a host in remote areas of Russia, do you want to buy a new homeland for that?

    Why not? The Russian people are kind, wise, hospitable ... They won’t stick a knife in the back, rather, they’ll give a snout to the snout or burn the hut, but calm down ... Who knows this situation - lives on itself until it runs into human relationships, but women, children - no, no, only according to the routine of the criminal, but it happens all the time, even in Madagascar ... Did you bach such a village, tramp?

    But after all, not every one of you can behave humanly, but everyone can find an end here sooner or later, each his own end ...
    Who is like a man, and who is like a dog ...
    And if you’re not sure that the end will be human, then you won’t be sad at home as a dog ... Sit at your hut, graze your flock, or whatever, don’t come here, man.
    1. Nir
      Nir 1 August 2012 13: 16
      -1
      Quote: Angry Tatar
      And if you’re not sure that the end will be human, then you won’t be sad at home as a dog ... Sit at your hut, graze your flock, or whatever, don’t come here, man.

      So I sit pass and do not worry ... that's just sometimes I laugh at people like you, brainwash lol
      Quote: Angry Tatar
      Can all the people of Russia repent before you for the Bialowieza agreements?

      Repent of your children and grandchildren when they ask and where you profiled a huge country. And it’s been violet for us for a long time. We know how you feel about us lol
  25. Evil Tatar
    Evil Tatar 1 August 2012 13: 37
    +3
    Quote: Nir
    So I sit pass and do not worry ... that's just sometimes I laugh at people like you, brainwash


    Yes, you, son, are just too striped, your trollinny fish eye could not see, and a weak mind simply can not perceive the truth that the elders know ...
    Wait a moment, when the plague touches you personally, when the hard times come, then you will ask your neighbors, and even without looking back you will run under the protection of those who are now crap, a dog.
    I am addressing you this way only because I am not going to tear with the troll and shine with tolerance ... Truncated, in kind of chock?
    1. TAGIR
      TAGIR 1 August 2012 14: 39
      0
      So he probably lives in Russia and Russian fat crack
      1. Nir
        Nir 1 August 2012 17: 08
        0
        Quote: TAGIR
        So he probably lives in Russia and Russian fat crack

        Fat I love it is the most vodka wink , but I don’t live in the Russian Federation, to your happiness, because I don’t want to be an object called "chock" for a long time already I have been living and working in Alaska and in R. Uz.
    2. Nir
      Nir 1 August 2012 16: 58
      0
      Quote: Angry Tatar
      Truncated, in kind chock?

      Well, that's all your gut and crawled out then wink In addition to the fact that the little mind is called chock no matter what. Do you think they offended me or those who live next to me? No dear, you just once again showed who you really are, and you are cattle lol and bydlyache treat everyone thinking that you are somehow special smile
  26. Georgs
    Georgs 1 August 2012 15: 54
    +2
    In fact, if Nashen’s hands leading a little more cared about the welfare of their state, all Asian freeloaders would have stood by the order of three on the right for a long time. Strict regulation of migration flows is a very effective lever of influence in the post-Soviet space.
    1. Nir
      Nir 1 August 2012 17: 14
      0
      Quote: GeorGS
      all asian parasites

      He personally fed these parasites once you write so confidently? The benefactor is not completed.
      1. Roman Skomorokhov
        Roman Skomorokhov 1 August 2012 20: 24
        0
        Dear ... slow down. Think of it as a shot in the air.
  27. Evil Tatar
    Evil Tatar 2 August 2012 03: 20
    +1
    Quote: Banshee
    Dear ... slow down. Think of it as a shot in the air.

    Do you even know how to shoot, moderator of Roma?
    How do you like the suit of the "arbiter of destinies" ... oh))) of the comments flusher?
    Calm down ...
    Did you delete the comments because of the word "CHURKA"?
    Well, well ... It's funny.
    Who did the administrators call editors? Amazing ...
  28. Odinplys
    Odinplys 2 August 2012 03: 43
    +1
    Soon they will be lined up to join the Union ... this is a fact ...
    Let the contribution be paid in the form of a free base for the Union ......