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The development of a new electronic warfare system has begun in Russia

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The development of a new electronic warfare system has begun in Russia

In Russia, the development of a new electronic warfare system designed to combat hypersonic aircraft began. This is reported by "Izvestia" with reference to a source in the military-industrial complex.


According to the source, work on the creation of a new electronic warfare system has already begun. Among the requirements for the new complex is the ability to interfere with all existing and promising hypersonic missiles and devices. The purpose of such a system will be to protect important military and civilian facilities, including launchers of ICBMs.

According to the publication, the complex will suppress sighting devices of hypersonic devices in the final section of the flight path. It is argued that the system will be able to neutralize ammunition with optoelectronic, radar and satellite homing heads.

(...) the system should not allow hypersonic ammunition to hit targets even when they break through air defense and missile defense systems

- says the publication.

Recall that the development of hypersonic weapons engaged in many countries. To date, Russia and China have announced the development of such weapons, the United States is at the testing stage.
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  1. _Ugene_
    _Ugene_ April 23 2020 13: 12 New
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    but what if the speed of the aircraft is higher then what are some fundamentally different electronic warfare equipment needed? where does the speed of the aircraft generally? compared with the speed of propagation of em waves, which effect, that is supersonic, that hypersonic aircraft, what's the difference?
    1. Starover_Z
      Starover_Z April 23 2020 13: 28 New
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      It has been written many times here that at a flight speed at hypersonic speeds around the aircraft, a plasma sheet is formed through which no homing heads work, and external control also does not work. How, then, will the electronic warfare system work?
      1. _Ugene_
        _Ugene_ April 23 2020 13: 34 New
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        those. they want to say that it is possible to overcome this plasma cloud by electronic warfare, and even from a great distance? Well then, what is the problem of external control of hypersonic aircraft? they would then be controlled normally
      2. venik
        venik April 23 2020 13: 48 New
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        Quote: Starover_Z
        It has been written many times here that at a flight speed at hypersonic speeds around the aircraft, a plasma sheet is formed through which no homing heads work, and external control also does not work. How, then, will the electronic warfare system work?

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        The trick is that it is the "plasma cloud" and can be a kind of receiving "ANTENNA"!
        No more, no less! request
        1. gridasov
          gridasov April 23 2020 14: 26 New
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          Nothing like this! It will be possible to work only with polarized parts of a flying object, namely those parts between which plasma appears as a cloud, but also as the so-called breakdown of the electronic magnetic circuit.
          1. venik
            venik April 23 2020 19: 56 New
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            Quote: gridasov
            Nothing like this! It will be possible to work only with polarized parts of a flying object, namely those parts between which plasma appears as a cloud, but also as the so-called breakdown of the electronic magnetic circuit.

            ========
            Why would it all be? Ionized gas interacts quite well with electromagnetic waves!
            1. gridasov
              gridasov April 23 2020 20: 18 New
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              In this case, the ionized gas is in a turbulent and more dynamic state. The processes are not just turbulent with a high degree of ionization and surface and their state is variable. Therefore, I have written many times that such complex processes can be considered mathematically modulated only using the function of a constant value of the number. Since everything is in a dynamic state and these transformations must be considered and as complex and as algorithmically related. Therefore, I don’t think that such a gas in this state can be overcome by any level of electronic magnetic disturbances, unless by the level of control of neutrino fluxes.
              1. pmkemcity
                pmkemcity April 24 2020 05: 23 New
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                Brilliant!
                1. gridasov
                  gridasov April 24 2020 09: 31 New
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                  Today, all night, I was half asleep comprehending the operation of the lamp triode, and then I remembered Bolotov's words that he provided the house with a small light bulb. And everything is very, it turns out to be logical and simple. An incredible power generator can be triggered by a very small filament. And the most important thing in my research is the ability to create a replacement for the permanent magnet. Therefore, it is incredibly important in the initial data of the fundamental foundations
                  analysis, to change one small detail of the process in order to get incredibly interesting solutions at other levels. More importantly, poverty and lack of money allows you to suck the idea for so long and so deep that it remains only to implement these solutions, rather than experimenting for years in a dumb
                  1. pmkemcity
                    pmkemcity April 24 2020 10: 10 New
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                    in my research this is the possibility of creating a replacement for the permanent magnet


                    poverty and lack of money allows you to suck the idea for so long and so deep

                    1. gridasov
                      gridasov April 24 2020 11: 06 New
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                      I watched the insaid job doc film recently and make an unambiguous conclusion that the history of mankind is the history of individual schemes and adventures of the intellect of individuals and the rest of the herd. The schemes shown in the film were also applied in the Russian financial sphere and others. When forming the oligarchy. The dominant intelligence of Americans presses everyone else and this is obvious
                      1. pmkemcity
                        pmkemcity April 24 2020 11: 18 New
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                        Quote: gridasov
                        adventurous intelligence of individuals and the rest of the herd.

      3. Svetlana
        Svetlana April 23 2020 14: 19 New
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        Quote: _Ugene_
        those. they want to say that it is possible to overcome this plasma cloud by electronic warfare, and even from a great distance? Well then, what is the problem of external control of hypersonic aircraft? they would then be controlled normally

        Nobody wants to say anything. "Development has begun" may also mean that research has begun on "methods and techniques for overcoming the plasma cocoon formed ...."
        These are just the first steps.
        1. gridasov
          gridasov April 23 2020 14: 29 New
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          It is necessary to work with methods of increasing the energy density or, in other words, magnetic force flows. And what is called the electronic magnetic waves scale is children's games.
          1. pmkemcity
            pmkemcity April 24 2020 11: 13 New
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            Quote: gridasov
            It is necessary to work with methods of increasing the energy density or, in other words, magnetic force flows.

            If you hold the palm of your right hand so that the magnetic lines of force of the field enter into it, and the bent thumb would indicate the direction of movement of the conductor, then the four fingers extended will indicate ...
            1. gridasov
              gridasov April 24 2020 11: 14 New
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              And this is all that a person is capable of when calculating magnetic force flows! And it's awful
              1. pmkemcity
                pmkemcity April 24 2020 11: 25 New
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                And this is all that a person is capable of when calculating magnetic force flows! And it's awful

                In!!!
      4. Peter Tverdokhlebov
        Peter Tverdokhlebov April 23 2020 16: 56 New
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        In fact, to combat plasma, you can create a plasma extinguishing device with cryogenic liquid or antennas that are resistant to high temperatures. Most likely, such a system is used in the guided combat unit of the Vanguard missile system.
        1. gridasov
          gridasov April 24 2020 09: 39 New
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          On the contrary! It is necessary to increase the work of the plasma phenomenon. But not hot plasma, but so-called cold! To do this, you must at least understand what is plasma and its various levels
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    3. knn54
      knn54 April 23 2020 13: 48 New
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      Hypersonic missiles REFINE the location of the target in the final section of the flight when the speed is not so high ..
      1. Kalmar
        Kalmar April 23 2020 14: 40 New
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        Quote: knn54
        Hypersonic missiles REFINE the location of the target in the final section of the flight when the speed is not so high ..

        But it is precisely at the final site that they will be opposed by electronic warfare equipment? In this case, if we return to the topic of the article, it is not clear how EWs for hypersonic missiles differ from any others.
    4. max702
      max702 April 23 2020 14: 41 New
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      Somehow, after the attack of Turkish UAVs, the EW legend pretty much faded ... Of all that about the EW they stated earlier these attacks should not have been in principle, but it turned out differently ... So doubts torment vague ..
      1. neri73-r
        neri73-r April 23 2020 15: 22 New
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        Quote: max702
        Somehow, after the attack of Turkish UAVs, the EW legend pretty much faded ... Of all that about the EW they stated earlier these attacks should not have been in principle, but it turned out differently ... So doubts torment vague ..

        And who said that against the Turks (UAVs) used electronic warfare? And used modern electronic warfare?
        1. max702
          max702 April 23 2020 15: 28 New
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          Quote: neri73-r
          Quote: max702
          Somehow, after the attack of Turkish UAVs, the EW legend pretty much faded ... Of all that about the EW they stated earlier these attacks should not have been in principle, but it turned out differently ... So doubts torment vague ..

          And who said that against the Turks (UAVs) used electronic warfare? And used modern electronic warfare?

          So a question then why did not apply? Losses are real and not small .. That is, we can hoo, but do not want to do this? EW, as it were, are the softest weapons. as options to shoot down everything and everything, to destroy airfields and bases, to watch how UAVs destroy allies, and maybe something can fly by itself .. And all this with the possible effective use of electronic warfare .. Where are the big risks?
          1. neri73-r
            neri73-r April 23 2020 15: 49 New
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            Quote: max702
            So a question then why did not apply? Losses are real and not small ..

            So, did our troops shell? Whose losses? Do not think of air defense, get it! There was no electronic warfare needed, or not so much electronic warfare, but how much military air defense! As soon as they dragged her, the UAV began to pour in, the Turks went to negotiations!
            1. max702
              max702 April 23 2020 15: 56 New
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              Quote: neri73-r
              and military air defense! As soon as they dragged her, the UAV began to pour in, the Turks went to negotiations!

              That is, EW can not affect drones .. Well, we can write it down .. But then, how is it to influence hypersound? About what is written in the article, if we can not affect the UAV? Why then these empty talk? They couldn’t deliver interference to the UAV, to bring down target designation, too, to take control even more so .. Why then electronic warfare, if there is no sense from it?
              1. Peter is not the first
                Peter is not the first April 23 2020 16: 05 New
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                Idlib’s problem is not that EW did not help there in the fight against Turkish drones, but was there EW from Turkish opponents at that moment?
                The fact that she was in the area of ​​the Russian base Khmeimim does not mean anything, since any weapon and counter-weapon have a radius of destruction and it is not as large as we would like.
                1. max702
                  max702 April 23 2020 16: 15 New
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                  So yes, only if we recall what statements were made on the range and capabilities of electronic warfare ... Syria is not Russia and the distances there are by no means outrageous .. They could have fully engaged themselves, but was there any sense ..
                2. Grigory_45
                  Grigory_45 April 23 2020 17: 56 New
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                  Quote: Peter is not the first
                  Was there any EW from Turkey’s opponents at that moment?

                  so after all ... Turkey’s preparations for war were seen by everyone. The Turks themselves did not hide that. And the electronic warfare systems, as far as I know, are not made in the form of a structure with piles buried in the ground for ten meters. It’s completely mobile. And electronic warfare systems are a defensive tool. The transfer of them would have no effect on the escalation of the conflict for the worse.
            2. Grigory_45
              Grigory_45 April 23 2020 17: 53 New
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              Quote: neri73-r
              So, did our troops shell? Whose losses?

              But how do you comment on the rocket attack on the Syrian air base Shairat? Some have hinted that the Tomahawks that were not flying were shot down by Russian electronic warfare systems.
          2. _Ugene_
            _Ugene_ April 23 2020 16: 43 New
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            So a question then why did not apply? Losses are real and not small .. That is, we can hoo, but do not want to do this? EW, as it were, are the softest weapons. as options to shoot down everything and everything, to destroy airfields and bases, to watch how UAVs destroy allies, and maybe something can fly by itself .. And all this with the possible effective use of electronic warfare .. Where are the big risks?

            There is some confusion in people's heads. We stated from the very beginning that we are helping to fight terrorists in Syria, we never promised Assad assistance in the war with other states, this is not our business, they have this massacre in the east for tens of years and can still reach hundreds, we need to there is no reason to interfere, therefore, we do not climb. Therefore, the S-400 does not shoot down Israeli aircraft, and the electronic warfare will not jam the Turkish UAVs, and will not continue to shoot down and jam.
            1. max702
              max702 April 23 2020 16: 55 New
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              Quote: _Ugene_
              and will not knock and jam further.

              And what about this As soon as they dragged her, the UAV began to pour in, the Turks went to negotiations! That is, you can shoot down (tightly) and you can’t influence the electronics .. As in the first case, Turkey’s losses are much more apparent than in the second, it would be just something our UAVs didn’t work and that’s all. ..How that the level of intervention is not comparable .. Or did the Turks solely and independently launch the Syrians massively? Do Turks believe in that?
              1. _Ugene_
                _Ugene_ April 23 2020 17: 38 New
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                we can help with technology and advice, as we do, but very limitedly, because we ourselves are not rich, we ourselves will not fight with any states there
              2. Piramidon
                Piramidon April 24 2020 20: 48 New
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                Quote: max702
                But what about this? As soon as they dragged her, the UAV began to pour in, the Turks went to negotiations! That is, you can shoot down (tightly) and you can not affect the electronics.

                The Syrian air defense systems were pulled up, and the Syrians themselves there were dealing with the Turks, but Syria did not have EW funds. And ours do not meet in this Turkish-Syrian conflict. Only Turkish barmaleis are urinated.
            2. Grigory_45
              Grigory_45 April 23 2020 17: 59 New
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              Quote: _Ugene_
              We stated from the very beginning that we are helping to fight terrorists in Syria, we never promised Assad assistance in the war with other states, this is not our business, they have this massacre in the east for tens of years and can still reach hundreds, we need to there is no reason to interfere, therefore, we do not climb. Therefore, the S-400 does not shoot down Israeli planes, and the electronic warfare will not jam the Turkish UAVs, and will not continue to shoot down and jam.

              not so long ago for exactly the same comment I grabbed almost two dozen minuses. Let's see what the reaction will be to your ...
              sometimes such miracles happen that you give life - inadequate in the pros, intelligent people in the red ...
              1. _Ugene_
                _Ugene_ April 23 2020 18: 05 New
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                honestly, I don’t really understand the meaning of these minuses and pluses, never looked at them, do I have something to increase from them or decrease?
                1. Grigory_45
                  Grigory_45 April 23 2020 18: 48 New
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                  Quote: _Ugene_
                  Do I have something to increase from them or decrease?

                  if you live a real life - then no. But for network addicts, this is very important.

                  Quote: _Ugene_
                  honestly I don’t really understand the meaning of these minuses and pluses

                  I personally do not care for them. But the meaning was different. That the same thoughts and comments sometimes have completely different perceptions. And that says a lot about the level of the public. Like a litmus test.
                  Although a few years ago, Vaud was a completely different site, there were much more literate people, the topics were discussed at a completely different level. Now it’s full of illiterate balabol just earning pluses and putting “-” not for comment, not for its meaning, but simply because “mug is not pleasant” (or insult is sitting, and revenge is sweet in the form of a minus)))
    5. neri73-r
      neri73-r April 23 2020 15: 21 New
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      Quote: _Ugene_
      but what if the speed of the aircraft is higher then what are some fundamentally different electronic warfare equipment needed? where does the speed of the aircraft generally? compared with the speed of propagation of em waves, which effect, that is supersonic, that hypersonic aircraft, what's the difference?

      Apparently, the reaction speed (from detection to the start of exposure) and the speed of exposure (suppress in a short time) are important.
      1. Grigory_45
        Grigory_45 April 23 2020 18: 08 New
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        Quote: neri73-r
        The reaction speed is apparently important (from detection to the beginning of exposure)

        Explain what you mean? EW complex - this is not the same air defense system

        Quote: neri73-r
        and speed of exposure

        hmm ... somehow miraculously managed to disperse the radio waves, they reach the target faster ??? What for???
        What is the speed of propagation of radio waves? The correct answer: in air a little less than the speed of light. What is compared with this supersonic, hypersound at least 5M, at least 100M ???
  2. Pvi1206
    Pvi1206 April 23 2020 13: 13 New
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    We are working ahead of the curve ... and this is good ...
  3. sanik2020
    sanik2020 April 23 2020 13: 19 New
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    Well, all this is for the future, but now we need something more serious in Syria. The other day, Israeli aircraft invaded Syrian airspace and launched a missile strike. Syrian air defense fired at them from the BUK air defense system but didn’t hit, they reported that it was due to powerful electronic countermeasures. So when solving strategic issues, I would like something to not forget about the most closely needed.
  4. gabonskijfront
    gabonskijfront April 23 2020 13: 23 New
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    Russian REB jamming enemy systems is still under development.
  5. Atlant-1164
    Atlant-1164 April 23 2020 13: 41 New
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    The armament of the Russian troops received the unique electronic warfare systems "Palantin", "Divnomorye" and "Tirada-2C"

    In recent years, more than 600 new generation systems have entered the Russian EW troops. For the troops created 19 of the latest models of special electronic warfare equipment. This significantly expanded the range of affected radio electronic means of the likely enemy and increased the range of radio suppression by 3,5 times.

    The share of modern complexes in the EW troops reached 67%. It is planned that by 2021 the level of their equipment with new equipment will be 70%.
  6. Vita vko
    Vita vko April 23 2020 13: 44 New
    +2
    Even if we allow the fantastic result of the work of Russian foreign intelligence in the hands of which the technology of promising guidance systems for hypersonic weapons of the United States fell, then as a result of using the electronic warfare complex it will be possible to deflect the first missile from the defended object. That's just the result will be 50 to 50, because The missile’s computing complex will decide either to continue flying with the help of an inertial guidance system, then the probability of hitting the target will decrease by a couple of percent, or the system will switch to direction finding on the interference source and then 100% of the electronic warfare system will come to an end.
    Although the very purpose of publishing Izvestia of such information is quite obvious, despite the absurdity from a military-technical point of view.
  7. Azazelo
    Azazelo April 23 2020 13: 51 New
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    Now they can disconnect communications on the whole planet?
    1. sniperino
      sniperino April 23 2020 17: 28 New
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      Quote: Azazelo
      Now they can disconnect communications on the whole planet?
      Include on schedule, debtors - a penalty + ban (a year without communication). Since such capitalism on the planet ...
  8. Dysindich
    Dysindich April 23 2020 14: 47 New
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    Quote: _Ugene_
    but what if the speed of the aircraft is higher then what are some fundamentally different electronic warfare equipment needed? where does the speed of the aircraft generally? compared with the speed of propagation of em waves, which effect, that is supersonic, that hypersonic aircraft, what's the difference?

    And you, take an interest in the problems of controlling hypersonic objects (rockets) - you’ll figure it all out yourself :-)
    There is a difference, and it is fundamental.
  9. gregor6549
    gregor6549 April 23 2020 16: 19 New
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    What does this passage mean, "Development has begun ...." and what is the purpose of such statements? Scare a potential adversary? So you are unlikely to scare him with such a message. He had already realized for a long time that much attention was paid to the electronic warfare systems and methods in Russia and was taking appropriate technical and organizational measures. And to please the Russian inhabitant with sensational messages is also superfluous. And so joy sometimes beats over the edge generating myths and legends. One story with Cook and Khibiny is worth it. In general, electronic warfare is such an area of ​​activity that does not like excess noise, especially if there is no reason for this noise yet
  10. Grigory_45
    Grigory_45 April 23 2020 17: 35 New
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    In Russia, the development of a new electronic warfare system designed to combat hypersonic aircraft began.
    another hypersonic game. What is the fundamental difference for electronic warfare systems, a supersonic device or a hypersonic? Yes, nothing.

    The speed of the target is important for the SAM, imposes requirements for the resolution and accuracy of the radar, for the reaction time of the complex, for the energy characteristics of missiles, etc.
  11. Star Trek
    Star Trek April 25 2020 00: 28 New
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    The new electronic warfare complex will be developed on the basis of optical photophotonics on quantum integrated circuits with artificial intelligence.
    And the development will be completed in 2027, it will be the most powerful and advanced electronic warfare system with the principle of action on quantum radio photon cameras.
    Adoption is expected closer to 2030 after the completion of the state test cycle.