The development of a new electronic warfare system has begun in Russia

In Russia, the development of a new electronic warfare system designed to combat hypersonic aircraft began. This is reported by "Izvestia" with reference to a source in the military-industrial complex.

According to the source, work on the creation of a new electronic warfare system has already begun. Among the requirements for the new complex is the ability to interfere with all existing and promising hypersonic missiles and devices. The purpose of such a system will be to protect important military and civilian facilities, including launchers of ICBMs.

According to the publication, the complex will suppress sighting devices of hypersonic devices in the final section of the flight path. It is argued that the system will be able to neutralize ammunition with optoelectronic, radar and satellite homing heads.

(...) the system should not allow hypersonic ammunition to hit targets even when they break through air defense and missile defense systems

- says the publication.

Recall that the development of hypersonic weapons engaged in many countries. To date, Russia and China have announced the development of such weapons, the United States is at the testing stage.

Comments

[_Ugene_]

but what if the speed of the aircraft is higher then what are some fundamentally different electronic warfare equipment needed? where does the speed of the aircraft generally? compared with the speed of propagation of em waves, which effect, that is supersonic, that hypersonic aircraft, what's the difference?

[Starover_Z]

It has been written many times here that at a flight speed at hypersonic speeds around the aircraft, a plasma sheet is formed through which no homing heads work, and external control also does not work. How, then, will the electronic warfare system work?

[_Ugene_]

those. they want to say that it is possible to overcome this plasma cloud by electronic warfare, and even from a great distance? Well then, what is the problem of external control of hypersonic aircraft? they would then be controlled normally

[venik]

Quote: Starover_Z

It has been written many times here that at a flight speed at hypersonic speeds around the aircraft, a plasma sheet is formed through which no homing heads work, and external control also does not work. How, then, will the electronic warfare system work?

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The trick is that it is the "plasma cloud" that can be a kind of receiving "ANTENNA"!
No more, no less!

[gridasov]

Nothing like this! It will be possible to work only with polarized parts of a flying object, namely those parts between which plasma appears as a cloud, but also as the so-called breakdown of the electronic magnetic circuit.

[venik]

Quote: gridasov

Nothing like this! It will be possible to work only with polarized parts of a flying object, namely those parts between which plasma appears as a cloud, but also as the so-called breakdown of the electronic magnetic circuit.

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Why would it all be? Ionized gas interacts quite well with electromagnetic waves!

[gridasov]

In this case, the ionized gas is in a turbulent and more dynamic state. The processes are not just turbulent with a high degree of ionization and surface and their state is variable. Therefore, I have written many times that such complex processes can be considered mathematically modulated only using the function of a constant value of the number. Since everything is in a dynamic state and these transformations must be considered and as complex and as algorithmically related. Therefore, I don’t think that such a gas in this state can be overcome by any level of electronic magnetic disturbances, unless by the level of control of neutrino fluxes.

[pmkemcity]

Brilliant!

[gridasov]

Today, all night, I was half asleep comprehending the operation of the lamp triode, and then I remembered Bolotov's words that he provided the house with a small light bulb. And everything is very, it turns out to be logical and simple. An incredible power generator can be triggered by a very small filament. And the most important thing in my research is the ability to create a replacement for the permanent magnet. Therefore, it is incredibly important in the initial data of the fundamental foundations
analysis, to change one small detail of the process in order to get incredibly interesting solutions at other levels. More importantly, poverty and lack of money allows you to suck the idea for so long and so deep that it remains only to implement these solutions, rather than experimenting for years in a dumb

[pmkemcity]

in my research this is the possibility of creating a replacement for the permanent magnet

poverty and lack of money allows you to suck the idea for so long and so deep

[gridasov]

I watched the insaid job doc film recently and make an unambiguous conclusion that the history of mankind is the history of individual schemes and adventures of the intellect of individuals and the rest of the herd. The schemes shown in the film were also applied in the Russian financial sphere and others. When forming the oligarchy. The dominant intelligence of Americans presses everyone else and this is obvious

[pmkemcity]

Quote: gridasov

adventurous intelligence of individuals and the rest of the herd.

[Svetlana]

Quote: _Ugene_

those. they want to say that it is possible to overcome this plasma cloud by electronic warfare, and even from a great distance? Well then, what is the problem of external control of hypersonic aircraft? they would then be controlled normally

Nobody wants to say anything. "Development has begun" can also mean that research has begun on "ways and methods to overcome the plasma cocoon formed ...."
These are just the first steps.

[gridasov]

It is necessary to work with methods of increasing the energy density or, in other words, magnetic force flows. And what is called the electronic magnetic waves scale is children's games.

[pmkemcity]

Quote: gridasov

It is necessary to work with methods of increasing the energy density or, in other words, magnetic force flows.

If you hold the palm of your right hand so that the magnetic lines of force of the field enter into it, and the bent thumb would indicate the direction of movement of the conductor, then the four fingers extended will indicate ...

[gridasov]

And this is all that a person is capable of when calculating magnetic force flows! And it's awful

[pmkemcity]

And this is all that a person is capable of when calculating magnetic force flows! And it's awful

In!!!

[Peter Tverdokhlebov]

In fact, to combat plasma, you can create a plasma extinguishing device with cryogenic liquid or antennas that are resistant to high temperatures. Most likely, such a system is used in the guided combat unit of the Vanguard missile system.

[gridasov]

On the contrary! It is necessary to increase the work of the plasma phenomenon. But not hot plasma, but so-called cold! To do this, you must at least understand what is plasma and its various levels

[knn54]

Hypersonic missiles REFINE the location of the target in the final section of the flight when the speed is not so high ..

[Kalmar]

Quote: knn54

Hypersonic missiles REFINE the location of the target in the final section of the flight when the speed is not so high ..

But it is precisely at the final site that they will be opposed by electronic warfare equipment? In this case, if we return to the topic of the article, it is not clear how EWs for hypersonic missiles differ from any others.

[max702]

Somehow, after the attack of Turkish UAVs, the EW legend pretty much faded ... Of all that about the EW they stated earlier these attacks should not have been in principle, but it turned out differently ... So doubts torment vague ..

[neri73-r]

Quote: max702

Somehow, after the attack of Turkish UAVs, the EW legend pretty much faded ... Of all that about the EW they stated earlier these attacks should not have been in principle, but it turned out differently ... So doubts torment vague ..

And who said that against the Turks (UAVs) used electronic warfare? And used modern electronic warfare?

[max702]

Quote: neri73-r

Quote: max702

Somehow, after the attack of Turkish UAVs, the EW legend pretty much faded ... Of all that about the EW they stated earlier these attacks should not have been in principle, but it turned out differently ... So doubts torment vague ..

And who said that against the Turks (UAVs) used electronic warfare? And used modern electronic warfare?

So a question then why did not apply? Losses are real and not small .. That is, we can hoo, but do not want to do this? EW, as it were, are the softest weapons. as options to shoot down everything and everything, to destroy airfields and bases, to watch how UAVs destroy allies, and maybe something can fly by itself .. And all this with the possible effective use of electronic warfare .. Where are the big risks?

[neri73-r]

Quote: max702

So a question then why did not apply? Losses are real and not small ..

So, did our troops shell? Whose losses? Do not think of air defense, get it! There was no electronic warfare needed, or not so much electronic warfare, but how much military air defense! As soon as they dragged her, the UAV began to pour in, the Turks went to negotiations!

[max702]

Quote: neri73-r

and military air defense! As soon as they dragged her, the UAV began to pour in, the Turks went to negotiations!

That is, EW can not affect drones .. Well, we can write it down .. But then, how is it to influence hypersound? About what is written in the article, if we can not affect the UAV? Why then these empty talk? They couldn’t deliver interference to the UAV, to bring down target designation, too, to take control even more so .. Why then electronic warfare, if there is no sense from it?

[Peter is not the first]

Idlib’s problem is not that EW did not help there in the fight against Turkish drones, but was there EW from Turkish opponents at that moment?
The fact that she was in the area of ​​the Russian base Khmeimim does not mean anything, since any weapon and counter-weapon have a radius of destruction and it is not as large as we would like.

[max702]

So yes, only if we recall what statements were made on the range and capabilities of electronic warfare ... Syria is not Russia and the distances there are by no means outrageous .. They could have fully engaged themselves, but was there any sense ..

[Grigory_45]

Quote: Peter is not the first

Was there any EW from Turkey’s opponents at that moment?

so after all ... Turkey’s preparations for war were seen by everyone. The Turks themselves did not hide that. And the electronic warfare systems, as far as I know, are not made in the form of a structure with piles buried in the ground for ten meters. It’s completely mobile. And electronic warfare systems are a defensive tool. The transfer of them would have no effect on the escalation of the conflict for the worse.

[Grigory_45]

Quote: neri73-r

So, did our troops shell? Whose losses?

But how do you comment on the rocket attack on the Syrian air base Shairat? Some have hinted that the Tomahawks that were not flying were shot down by Russian electronic warfare systems.

[_Ugene_]

So a question then why did not apply? Losses are real and not small .. That is, we can hoo, but do not want to do this? EW, as it were, are the softest weapons. as options to shoot down everything and everything, to destroy airfields and bases, to watch how UAVs destroy allies, and maybe something can fly by itself .. And all this with the possible effective use of electronic warfare .. Where are the big risks?

There is some confusion in people's heads. We stated from the very beginning that we are helping to fight terrorists in Syria, we never promised Assad assistance in the war with other states, this is not our business, they have this massacre in the east for tens of years and can still reach hundreds, we need to there is no reason to interfere, therefore, we do not climb. Therefore, the S-400 does not shoot down Israeli aircraft, and the electronic warfare will not jam the Turkish UAVs, and will not continue to shoot down and jam.

[max702]

Quote: _Ugene_

and will not knock and jam further.

And what about this As soon as they dragged her, the UAV began to pour in, the Turks went to negotiations! That is, you can shoot down (tightly) and you can’t influence the electronics .. As in the first case, Turkey’s losses are much more apparent than in the second, it would be just something our UAVs didn’t work and that’s all. ..How that the level of intervention is not comparable .. Or did the Turks solely and independently launch the Syrians massively? Do Turks believe in that?

[_Ugene_]

we can help with technology and advice, as we do, but very limitedly, because we ourselves are not rich, we ourselves will not fight with any states there

[Piramidon]

Quote: max702

But what about this? As soon as they dragged her, the UAV began to pour in, the Turks went to negotiations! That is, you can shoot down (tightly) and you can not affect the electronics.

The Syrian air defense systems were pulled up, and the Syrians themselves there were dealing with the Turks, but Syria did not have EW funds. And ours do not meet in this Turkish-Syrian conflict. Only Turkish barmaleis are urinated.

[Grigory_45]

Quote: _Ugene_

We stated from the very beginning that we are helping to fight terrorists in Syria, we never promised Assad assistance in the war with other states, this is not our business, they have this massacre in the east for tens of years and can still reach hundreds, we need to there is no reason to interfere, therefore, we do not climb. Therefore, the S-400 does not shoot down Israeli planes, and the electronic warfare will not jam the Turkish UAVs, and will not continue to shoot down and jam.

not so long ago for exactly the same comment I grabbed almost two dozen minuses. Let's see what the reaction will be to your ...
sometimes such miracles happen that you give life - inadequate in the pros, intelligent people in the red ...

[_Ugene_]

honestly, I don’t really understand the meaning of these minuses and pluses, never looked at them, do I have something to increase from them or decrease?

[Grigory_45]

Quote: _Ugene_

Do I have something to increase from them or decrease?

if you live a real life - then no. But for network addicts, this is very important.

Quote: _Ugene_

honestly I don’t really understand the meaning of these minuses and pluses

I personally do not care for them. But the meaning was different. That the same thoughts and comments sometimes have completely different perceptions. And that says a lot about the level of the public. Like a litmus test.
Although a few years ago, Waugh was a completely different site, there were many more literate people, topics were discussed on a completely different level. Nowadays there are a lot of illiterate balabols who simply earn plus signs and put "-" not for the comment, not for its meaning, but simply because "I don't like the mug" (or the insult is sitting, and revenge is so sweet in the form of a minus)))

[neri73-r]

Quote: _Ugene_

but what if the speed of the aircraft is higher then what are some fundamentally different electronic warfare equipment needed? where does the speed of the aircraft generally? compared with the speed of propagation of em waves, which effect, that is supersonic, that hypersonic aircraft, what's the difference?

Apparently, the reaction speed (from detection to the start of exposure) and the speed of exposure (suppress in a short time) are important.

[Grigory_45]

Quote: neri73-r

The reaction speed is apparently important (from detection to the beginning of exposure)

Explain what you mean? EW complex - this is not the same air defense system

Quote: neri73-r

and speed of exposure

hmm ... somehow miraculously managed to disperse the radio waves, they reach the target faster ??? What for???
What is the speed of propagation of radio waves? The correct answer: in air a little less than the speed of light. What is compared with this supersonic, hypersound at least 5M, at least 100M ???

[Pvi1206]

We are working ahead of the curve ... and this is good ...

[sanik2020]

Well, all this is for the future, but now we need something more serious in Syria. The other day, Israeli aircraft invaded Syrian airspace and launched a missile strike. Syrian air defense fired at them from the BUK air defense system but didn’t hit, they reported that it was due to powerful electronic countermeasures. So when solving strategic issues, I would like something to not forget about the most closely needed.

[gabonskijfront]

Russian REB jamming enemy systems is still under development.

[Atlant-1164]

The armament of the Russian troops received the unique electronic warfare systems "Palantin", "Divnomorye" and "Tirada-2C"

In recent years, more than 600 new generation systems have entered the Russian EW troops. For the troops created 19 of the latest models of special electronic warfare equipment. This significantly expanded the range of affected radio electronic means of the likely enemy and increased the range of radio suppression by 3,5 times.

The share of modern complexes in the EW troops reached 67%. It is planned that by 2021 the level of their equipment with new equipment will be 70%.

[Vita vko]

Even if we allow the fantastic result of the work of Russian foreign intelligence in the hands of which the technology of promising guidance systems for hypersonic weapons of the United States fell, then as a result of using the electronic warfare complex it will be possible to deflect the first missile from the defended object. That's just the result will be 50 to 50, because The missile’s computing complex will decide either to continue flying with the help of an inertial guidance system, then the probability of hitting the target will decrease by a couple of percent, or the system will switch to direction finding on the interference source and then 100% of the electronic warfare system will come to an end.
Although the very purpose of publishing Izvestia of such information is quite obvious, despite the absurdity from a military-technical point of view.

[Azazelo]

Now they can disconnect communications on the whole planet?

[sniperino]

Quote: Azazelo

Now they can disconnect communications on the whole planet?

Include on schedule, debtors - a penalty + ban (a year without communication). Since such capitalism on the planet ...

[Dysindich]

Quote: _Ugene_

but what if the speed of the aircraft is higher then what are some fundamentally different electronic warfare equipment needed? where does the speed of the aircraft generally? compared with the speed of propagation of em waves, which effect, that is supersonic, that hypersonic aircraft, what's the difference?

And you, take an interest in the problems of controlling hypersonic objects (rockets) - you’ll figure it all out yourself :-)
There is a difference, and it is fundamental.

[gregor6549]

What does this passage "Development started ...." mean and what is the purpose of such statements? Scare a potential enemy? So you hardly scare him with such a message. He already realized a long time ago that in Russia great attention is paid to the means and methods of electronic warfare and is taking appropriate measures of a technical and organizational nature. And to please the Russian man in the street with sensational messages is also superfluous. And so joy sometimes beats over the edge, giving rise to myths and legends. One story with Cook and Khibiny is worth something. And in general, electronic warfare is such an area of ​​activity that does not like unnecessary noise, especially if there are no reasons for this noise yet.

[Grigory_45]

In Russia, the development of a new electronic warfare system designed to combat hypersonic aircraft began.

another hypersonic game. What is the fundamental difference for electronic warfare systems, a supersonic device or a hypersonic? Yes, nothing.

The speed of the target is important for the SAM, imposes requirements for the resolution and accuracy of the radar, for the reaction time of the complex, for the energy characteristics of missiles, etc.

[Star Trek]

The new electronic warfare complex will be developed on the basis of optical photophotonics on quantum integrated circuits with artificial intelligence.
And the development will be completed in 2027, it will be the most powerful and advanced electronic warfare system with the principle of action on quantum radio photon cameras.
Adoption is expected closer to 2030 after the completion of the state test cycle.