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What will happen to the contributions of the Russians, why were everyone afraid of Kudrin's words?

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The recent speech by the head of the Accounts Chamber, Alexei Kudrin, who allowed the government to raise private funds, scared many Russians who still have some savings in banks.


According to the head of the Accounts Chamber of the Russian Federation, Russian citizens hold a total of 30 trillion rubles in financial institutions. The state could use this money as a loan in the domestic market. After this statement, all investors became worried. Many Russians even rushed to urgently withdraw their funds from bank accounts.

These words of Kudrin caused a rather critical reaction from experts. So, the well-known sociologist and economist, scientific director of the All-Russian Center for the Study of Public Opinions, Joseph Diskin, in jest even hesitated to the health of the head of the Accounts Chamber, while emphasizing the irresponsibility of such statements.

After such a negative reaction from society, Alexei Leonidovich had to make excuses: they say that he didn’t mean it at all, but spoke only about the possibility of buying a public debt by banks.

In an interview, RBC said about the usual practice of banks in all countries to invest surplus funds, including deposits of individuals, in government bonds. Someone regarded this as a recommendation to withdraw the money of depositors - this is absurd. Of course, this is not the case,

- wrote Alexei Kudrin on his Twitter.

Later, the head of Sberbank of the Russian Federation German Gref joined in the excuses of Kudrin. He emphasized that Kudrin clearly didn’t mean it that way, “and it’s impossible to take savings from citizens.” Gref assured that Sberbank is the most reliable place to store money. But doubts have already appeared among citizens.

Those who are older, remember well what happened to the savings of Soviet people, who at once lost all their savings. Nobody then compensated anything to them on a scale comparable to the purchasing power of savings. By the way, the same Gref himself recalled this sad page from our past and said that the authorities allegedly received vaccination from such actions forever. But is it really so? We cannot know.

However, any words of responsible persons about the savings of citizens cannot but bother ordinary people. Especially after Vladimir Putin has already decided to tax 13% of income on bank accounts of more than 1 million rubles (however, the tax will be levied only if interest exceeds the Bank of Russia key rate).

As always, it is the poor Russians who are most worried. Indeed, the real rich, oligarchs, and even just wealthy entrepreneurs and officials, have foreign accounts and diversified investment portfolios in which funds are distributed between deposits, currency, gold, securities, and property in the form of real estate residential and commercial, land.

For the average layman, an account of 1-2 million rubles, which he saved all his life or received from the sale of an inherited apartment, is the only wealth and it is clear that he will be very worried for his safety. Therefore, it is difficult to disagree with the position of Diskin: representatives of the authorities, and the head of the Accounts Chamber also refers to those, should not even joke in this spirit. After all, these words can be very painfully perceived by the population, and it will commit irreparable acts.

By the way, what really can be advised to Russians, even those who have small savings, in such a situation - to keep their funds in rubles and in foreign currency, both in banks and in cash. It’s better to be safe than lose everything.
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  1. Altona
    Altona April 22 2020 10: 55 New
    78
    From these rats everything can be expected, from them it will become.
    1. DEDPIHTO
      DEDPIHTO April 22 2020 10: 58 New
      55
      They have already taken pension savings of citizens, supposedly, by freezing them, so yes, everything can be expected from these ..
      1. Svarog
        Svarog April 22 2020 11: 00 New
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        Quote: DEPHIHTO
        They have already taken pension savings of citizens, supposedly, by freezing them, so yes, everything can be expected from these ..

        Here you can’t even expect, here you can be sure when everything will be bad, without hesitation they will throw it. We have gone through this over the past 30 years.
        1. carstorm 11
          carstorm 11 April 22 2020 11: 17 New
          -44
          recall who threw 30 years ago?)
          1. Malyuta
            Malyuta April 22 2020 11: 27 New
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            Quote: carstorm 11
            recall who threw 30 years ago?)

            ebony Putinism. the first threw the whole country, and the second - Peter.
            1. carstorm 11
              carstorm 11 April 22 2020 11: 41 New
              -38
              come on?))) seriously?))))) the USSR collapsed in '91 and you go and drew a new one for some months as you called there))) we were thrown by those who led the country before the age of 91 and it’s stupid to deny it. we were brought to the age of 91 by all those who called themselves Soviet citizens and led the USSR. so all charges there please.
              1. Malyuta
                Malyuta April 22 2020 11: 47 New
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                Quote: carstorm 11
                so all charges there please.

                Both of these characters were with party cards, so I do not separate them from the newly born reborn adaptors. By the way, the shoigu, the Kirienko, the matvienka and the rest of the Lisovskys, the Prokhorovs and the Shapiro, also from the rednecks of the majors at the Komsomol work.
                Notice, I am objective. hi
                1. Tatyana
                  Tatyana April 22 2020 12: 02 New
                  11
                  By the way, what really can be advised to Russians, even those who have small Savings, in such a situation - to keep their funds in rubles and in foreign currency, both in banks and in cash. It’s better to be safe than to lose everything.

                  Unfortunately, advice on keeping cash in cash does not seem to help. Namely.

                  During the coronavirus pandemic, namely April 17, the State Duma deputies in the second reading finalized the draft on a single database of population information - adopted a law on the digitalization of the population.
                  The EFIR project (Unified Federal Information Register) will contain all data for each person collected from all Russian information systems. So far, it will include more than 30 types of information about the citizen.

                  The single register may enter into force on January 1, 2022. Its holder will be the Federal Tax Service (FTS). The basis of the resource will be more than 500 million records of acts of civil status, since 1926.

                  One of the main goals of creating an EFIR is supposedly in a more accurate definition of people who need targeted state assistance. For fiscal purposes, this database can be used through bank accounts and cash withdrawals.
                  So, it will be possible to compare the declared income and expense and ask citizens questions about the source of income.

                  See in detail - https://atvmedia.ru/news/social/19006
                  1. Tatyana
                    Tatyana April 22 2020 12: 20 New
                    21
                    This idea of ​​digitalization of the population of any country - including the Russian Federation - has a hidden bottom, which was also mentioned by globalist Zbigniew Brzezinski and which Russian political scientists constantly warn about the enslavement of the Russian people by representatives of the highest Russian authorities. We are talking about the total control by socio-economic methods of the political loyalty of the citizens of the country in relation to the policies of those in power in a bourgeois state.

                    “The possibilities of social and political control over the individual will increase.
                    Soon it will be possible to carry out almost continuous monitoring of every citizen and keep constantly updated computer dossiers containing, in addition to ordinary information, the most confidential details about the state of health and behavior of each person.
                    Relevant government agencies will have instant access to these files. The power will be concentrated in the hands of those who control the information, ”- Zbigniew Brzezinski, American political scientist, sociologist and statesman of Polish descent.
                  2. your1970
                    your1970 April 22 2020 15: 19 New
                    -13
                    Quote: Tatiana
                    One of the main goals of creating an EFIR is supposedly in a more accurate definition of people who need targeted state assistance. For fiscal purposes, this database can be used through bank accounts and cash withdrawals.
                    So, it will be possible to compare the declared income and expense and ask citizens questions about the source of income.

                    -так это ж главная задача борцунов с коррупцией - задать вопрос "Почему расходится доход и расход???!!!!".Это ж великая победа оппозиции!!!Или нет?
                    Or is it important only when you need to kick the power, and when suddenly All then it’s not necessary at all ???
                    1. your1970
                      your1970 April 22 2020 19: 13 New
                      -1
                      LTD! 5 minusers - corrupt officials announced lol lol
                    2. V.I.P.
                      V.I.P. April 23 2020 15: 09 New
                      +7
                      ALL ?????? ... ..For you, an example is Tolya Serdyukov and Vasilyev ...... And rubbish about, then, that the law is for ALL in the Russian Federation
                      1. your1970
                        your1970 April 23 2020 23: 24 New
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                        Quote: V.I.P.
                        ALL ?????? ... ..For you, an example is Tolya Serdyukov and Vasilyev ...... And rubbish about, then, that the law is for ALL in the Russian Federation
                        -You didn’t try to read what I wrote before I fell into hysteria? I answered Tatyana at her post

                        Quote: Tatiana
                        So, it will be possible to compare the declared income and expense and ask citizens questions about the source of income.
                        -You AGAINST the opportunity to check corrupt officials?
                      2. V.I.P.
                        V.I.P. April 24 2020 17: 27 New
                        +1
                        There was an opportunity to plant Tolya and Lena ... How Lena sat, everyone knows. Where is Tolia now ... ... Those who are friends and against whom foreigners have imposed sanctions, as well as those who steer all state corporations, no one will check them under any law. Sticks will be cut for those who lay brick or finish the apartment, supposedly illegally)))) ....
                  3. bk0010
                    bk0010 April 23 2020 23: 50 New
                    +4
                    Quote: your1970
                    -так это ж главная задача борцунов с коррупцией - задать вопрос "Почему расходится доход и расход???!!!!"
                    They repeatedly asked this question about various officials. They received a renaming in the Rosreestr records, answers about compote, but not the landing of exposed officials. That is, everyone already understands that these opportunities will be used strictly against the people.
                2. Golovan Jack
                  Golovan Jack April 22 2020 15: 36 New
                  -3
                  Quote: Tatiana
                  So, it will be possible to compare the declared income and expense and ask citizens questions about the source of income.

                  How so?

                  Suppose I’m a computer master ... or a plumber, or just doing repairs. For cash And then I spend this cash arbitrarily ... And who will track my income-expenses?

                  Cancel cash now - unrial. Do you want to - challenge, if not lazy ... you lose all one request
                  1. Polite Moose
                    Polite Moose April 22 2020 16: 22 New
                    10
                    Quote: Golovan Jack
                    Suppose I’m a computer master ... or a plumber, or just doing repairs.

                    Если такая "цифровизация населения" произойдет, то половина России в черный нал уйдет. Может даже и в валютный. Доходы граждане будут показывать минимальные. И налоги с них платить так же по-минимуму. Мы это все уже проходили.
                    1. Golovan Jack
                      Golovan Jack April 22 2020 16: 59 New
                      -3
                      Quote: Polite Elk
                      half of Russia will go into black cash

                      Цитата: Павел Корнев, "Лед"
                      We just learned that black cash should be converted into a white liter, but they’re climbing with tips

                      It inspired request
                    2. Tatyana
                      Tatyana April 22 2020 16: 59 New
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                      Quote: Polite Moose
                      Quote: Golovan Jack
                      Suppose I’m a computer master ... or a plumber, or just doing repairs.

                      Если такая "цифровизация населения" произойдет, то половина России в черный нал уйдет. Может даже и в валютный. Доходы граждане будут показывать минимальные. И налоги с них платить так же по-минимуму. Мы это все уже проходили.

                      В том-то и дело, что следующим шагом в ЦИФРОВИХАЦИИ финансовой системы финансовые капиталисты - банкиры, "хозяева денег" - мечтают completely cancel the cash.
                      In other words, bankers want to own the world and manage entire countries with the help of virtual money from citizens on bank cards.

                      I just did not develop this topic.
                    3. Klingon
                      Klingon April 23 2020 12: 47 New
                      +5
                      in some E-countries this has already happened. In Sweden, the Netherlands, there is almost no cash. The most stubborn and conservative as usual Germans. Reluctantly switch to cashless. In some cafes and shops, especially in villages, you cannot pay with a card. Therefore, riding a bike along the Black Forest, I always drive twenty in cash. - Hunger is not aunt !! wassat
                    4. Altona
                      Altona April 23 2020 21: 20 New
                      +2
                      Quote: Klingon
                      The most stubborn and conservative as usual Germans. Reluctantly switch to cashless.

                      ----------------------
                      "И это правильно", говоря словами известного продажного генсека.
              2. Altona
                Altona April 23 2020 21: 19 New
                -3
                Quote: Golovan Jack
                Suppose I’m a computer master ... or a plumber, or just doing repairs. For cash And then I spend this cash arbitrarily ... And who will track my income-expenses?

                ---------------------------
                Roman, I agree with this for a long time and this is actually happening by the way. Once again, the USSR was a largely non-cash country and this did not help him.
          2. carstorm 11
            carstorm 11 April 22 2020 12: 50 New
            -10
            but I didn’t say to separate anyone. I talked about a particular state.
        2. 4ekist
          4ekist April 23 2020 12: 03 New
          +6
          I can say one thing, trust our rulers (both former and present) - do not respect yourself !!!
        3. Revival
          Revival April 23 2020 16: 34 New
          +2
          You do not slip up your guardianship of the upper classes, even to the point of openness.
          Although, I understand, this work, and the facts are crushing, there’s no maneuver at all, it’s getting harder and harder for you
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    2. AU Ivanov.
      AU Ivanov. April 22 2020 15: 06 New
      -12
      The Communists threw. Pavlovskaya reform. And in 1961 they threw it - they did not get used to it.
    3. Mordvin 3
      Mordvin 3 April 22 2020 19: 47 New
      +9
      Quote: carstorm 11
      recall who threw 30 years ago?)

      Are you talking about Pavlov’s reform? I can remind. They threw those who had fifty dollars and capitals in cash at home with 50 and 100 bills, over 500 in cash. I pulled to my grandfather on skis, what would the news convey, but what's the point? He did not have such stash.
      1. Magistr
        Magistr April 22 2020 19: 59 New
        +9
        Quote: mordvin xnumx
        Quote: carstorm 11
        recall who threw 30 years ago?)

        Are you talking about Pavlov’s reform? I can remind. They threw those who had fifty dollars and capitals of banknotes in cash at home

        Ah Vladimir raised a good topic .. Pavlova was scammed both in the tail and in the mane .. But the smart man was (died of a heart attack, persecuted) He wanted to knock out all thieves and other prokhendeys (underground guilds, Titov, Khodorkovsky, Berezovsky, etc.) with this reform .d.)
        Ведь наличку выкачивали эти "бизнесмены" из страны заваливая экономику на бок ..
        Но увы инфа ушла раньше чем началась реформа и пострадали в основном работяги и те кто на севере вкалывал..и т.д. А эти черти все успели обменять и легализовать ..И началось долой КПСС и т.д. Это все еще расследовать нужно ,кто сдал реформу Павлова ..Как вспомню так противно на душе ..Вот вой то стоял злорадный на весь Союз "Смотрите как вас коммунисты ограбили и т.д." Помните такое ?
        1. Mordvin 3
          Mordvin 3 April 22 2020 20: 07 New
          +5
          Quote: Magistr
          But alas, the info left before the reform began

          Not really gone. I recall the cases when legalists offered millions (there were such rumors) for letting them go free for a week. There were also reports about heaps of torn stewards and fifty dollars in the trash, and my mother told me how one blind person from their enterprise gave some non-Russian change in the market, instead of 5 rubles - half a hundred. He was not aware that blind people feel money by touch.
          1. Magistr
            Magistr April 22 2020 21: 41 New
            +9
            Quote: Mordvin 3
            Not really gone. I recall the cases when legalists offered millions (there were such rumors) for letting them go free for a week. There were also reports about heaps of torn stewards and fifty dollars in the trash, and my mother told me how one blind person from their enterprise gave some non-Russian change in the market, instead of 5 rubles - half a hundred. He was not aware that blind people feel money by touch.

            It was like that and near Sberbanks, suspicious individuals roamed around with packs of 50-100 rubles offering to exchange for half the price ..
            And then the sabotage in the country began and everything disappeared in the shops .. Traders arranged for usurers and away we go Down, etc. They did not spare money on rallies and other cries ..
            The result we know EVERYTHING!
            The USSR collapsed and suddenly everything appeared, but at a commercial price .. Beautifully they threw us bastards and enriched ourselves fantastically ..
            1. Mordvin 3
              Mordvin 3 April 22 2020 21: 56 New
              +3
              Quote: Magistr
              The USSR collapsed and suddenly everything appeared

              Well, not at once all of a sudden ... I remember how my friend in the early 90s became right to download in the store. There was more ice on the legs than the legs themselves. In general, we didn’t buy a leg, and the saleswoman rested from breaking ice from these legs.
              1. Pilat2009
                Pilat2009 April 23 2020 17: 12 New
                +1
                Quote: Mordvin 3
                Well, not at once all of a sudden ...

                For real sake of interest, I went to the store for the next day, and there was a smoked sausage and ice cream of 20 rubles each, a glass and beer in cans imported. I licked and left
        2. NICK111
          NICK111 April 23 2020 12: 15 New
          0
          Dear Magistr, I do not agree with you.
          My cashier brought from Promstroibank Tallinn paycheck to the entire plant entirely 50s!
          And the staff was at that plant for 2 thousand people.
          What have they done? What speculators are they?
        3. Essex62
          Essex62 April 24 2020 00: 29 New
          0
          Еще одна ,великолепно проведенная, операция наших друзей .С водружением, на кремлевский табурет, зазсланного казачка они тут гуляли как дома. Реформа по изъятию зарождавшейся буржуазной нечисти смысл имела противоположный объявленному. Раскачать народ на недовольство Советской властью, которая уже ,по сути таковой не являлась. Выкосили увольнениями и убийствами реально советских руководителей и вычистили аппарат Конторы,заполнив карьеристами-перерожденцами. Не чего у Павлова получиться, задуманного, не могло .Скорее его в темную играли. На словах-то звучало-"больше социализма". А может и знал, теперь не спросишь.
  2. ancient
    ancient April 22 2020 13: 17 New
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    Quote: Svarog
    Here you can’t even expect, here you can be sure

    Абсолютно верно, так как - "....Дефицит федерального бюджета России в 2020 году может составить порядка 5,6 трлн рублей вместо планировавшегося ранее профицита в 900 млрд. При этом прогнозный уровень поступлений в бюджет составляет 15,2 трлн рублей, а общая сумма планируемых расходов - 20,8 трлн", сообщает в понедельник газета "Известия" со ссылкой на источник, близкий к правительству.

    Official sources report bad news not directly, but with reference to unofficial sources.
    It has long become a management style, so a TASS message with reference to Izvestia could well be equated with official information. wink
    Well, then ... it's just ... well, or as always wassat
    1. Digital error
      Digital error April 23 2020 23: 05 New
      -1
      Quote: ancient
      Deficit of the federal budget of Russia in 2020

      А до него были "профицитные" 2018-й и 2019-й годы, повышение НДС, "обнуление" пенсионных выплат за 5 лет, изъятия у "полковников Захарченко".
      Money heaps, do not believe TASS with reference to Izvestia hi
      1. Metallurg_2
        Metallurg_2 April 24 2020 18: 26 New
        +1
        Денег завались, но только все они у "нужных" людей.
  • knn54
    knn54 April 22 2020 11: 29 New
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    Today the trend is Zeroing.
    1. Malyuta
      Malyuta April 22 2020 11: 48 New
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      Quote: knn54
      Today the trend is Zeroing.

      Many will have to multiply by zero. am
      1. DEDPIHTO
        DEDPIHTO April 22 2020 14: 52 New
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        Quote: Malyuta
        Quote: knn54
        Today the trend is Zeroing.

        Many will have to multiply by zero. am

        So have already taken care of the powerful ...
        Quote from the news point
        The Russian government has prepared a bill expanding the powers of the police. The police can get the right to open cars, cordon off residential buildings and protect venues for public events, and in addition - shoot in case of any danger.
        Where are the Zaputinians who squealed that our police themselves are politeness and in Omerika everything is much worse, there the policemen immediately make fun of defeat. Well, and to what extent? winked
        1. Lexus
          Lexus April 22 2020 15: 01 New
          11
          The police can get the right to open cars, cordon off residential buildings and protect venues for public events, and in addition - to shoot in case of any danger.
          Право "стрелять" деньги, "вскрывать" и шарить по карманам граждан, очевидно, уже воспринимается, как само-собой разумеющееся. Не только полицией.
        2. Alf
          Alf April 22 2020 19: 15 New
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          Quote: DEPHIHTO
          The police may gain the right to open cars, cordon off residential buildings and enclose venues for public events,


          Особенно "шикарно" звучит последний абзац.
          1. Lexus
            Lexus April 22 2020 22: 16 New
            +4
            Василий, приветствую! Они и так скоро последнее "усовершенствуют". Традиционные карманники с голодухи помрут. lol
            1. Alf
              Alf April 23 2020 18: 23 New
              +1
              Quote: lexus
              Vasily, welcome!

              Good evening ! hi
      2. Mordvin 3
        Mordvin 3 April 22 2020 19: 33 New
        +7
        Quote: Malyuta
        Many will have to multiply by zero.

        Today I went to the bank. Cash withdrawal - a maximum of 15 thousand rubles. They say there is no money.
        1. Malyuta
          Malyuta April 22 2020 19: 48 New
          +8
          Quote: Mordvin 3
          Today I went to the bank. Cash withdrawal - a maximum of 15 thousand rubles. They say there is no money.

          Comrade, we are Demetrius ana .., pah, Nedimon when I warned you, there is no money, but you hold on and you are in a good mood. After all, it was normally cast, directly into granite, but we did not believe him ....
          And now he is suffering, he was removed from his post and sent to swell, so that the people would not inform.
          1. Mordvin 3
            Mordvin 3 April 22 2020 19: 54 New
            10
            Quote: Malyuta
            no money but you hold on

            The ax cries for this freak. My dad died yesterday, but I can’t remove the stash. The buggers are ATM.
            1. Malyuta
              Malyuta April 22 2020 21: 04 New
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              Quote: Mordvin 3
              Mordvin 3

              Accept my sincere condolences ...
            2. Alex bergman
              Alex bergman April 23 2020 03: 32 New
              +5
              The deepest condolences! Hold on! The worst loss!
            3. Revival
              Revival April 23 2020 16: 44 New
              0
              Please accept my sincere condolences ..
    2. Magistr
      Magistr April 22 2020 20: 07 New
      -5
      Quote: knn54
      Today the trend is Zeroing.

      It’s in your minds such zeroing all memory, honor and conscience .. hi
  • Stalllker
    Stalllker April 24 2020 10: 14 New
    0
    Да ни кто их не замораживал, деньги работают и приносят прибыль. У в НПФ за 4 года почти 80т дохода!!! Просто отчисления работодатель в накопительную часть не производит! Вот вся "ваша заморозка", пугают только народ, кто в этом не шарит
  • DenZ
    DenZ April 22 2020 11: 08 New
    +2
    One super-economist (Kudrin) blurted out without thinking, another, always commenting everything (Gref), frightened for his bank, began to reassure everyone. That's all the news
    1. carstorm 11
      carstorm 11 April 22 2020 11: 18 New
      -6
      it is not his bank and was not him. he is just an employee in him.
    2. Kronos
      Kronos April 22 2020 11: 19 New
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      These people are in power and if they said something, it will be the other way around
    3. Leshy1975
      Leshy1975 April 22 2020 11: 42 New
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      Quote: DenZ
      One super-economist (Kudrin) blurted out without thinking, another, always commenting everything (Gref), frightened for his bank, began to reassure everyone. That's all the news

      Well, this is only if you do not know about other news (source Lenta.ru):
      The cost of Russian oil Urals with delivery in Rotterdam fell below 10 dollars. As of the evening of Tuesday, April 21, it was trading at $ 9,5 per barrel, reports The Bell ...
      Earlier it was reported that Europe sharply increased purchases of Saudi oil, for which the kingdom offered record discounts as part of the price war. Accordingly, Russian sales collapsed with shipments by sea. In particular, Poland in April did not buy a single barrel of Urals, so Russia's supplies were limited to pipeline oil, for which there are long-term contracts.
      Well, here's some more news:
      МОСКВА, 20 апреля. /ТАСС/. Дефицит федерального бюджета России в 2020 году может составить порядка 5,6 трлн рублей вместо планировавшегося ранее профицита в 900 млрд. При этом прогнозный уровень поступлений в бюджет составляет 15,2 трлн рублей, а общая сумма планируемых расходов - 20,8 трлн, сообщает в понедельник газета "Известия" со ссылкой на источник, близкий к правительству.

      I myself don’t want to write anything at all today, so I’ll just quote something already ready on this topic (Source: El-Murid blog):
      Проблема в том, что плохая новость, скорее всего, предварительная. Менее оптимистические новости о дефиците бюджета в этом году говорят о 9 триллионах рублей, как о более реалистичной сумме. Речь идет о деньгах в объеме всего фонда национального "благосостояния". Поэтому ни до какого 24 года его не дотянут, разве что чисто символически оставят рубль на счету, чтобы просто он был.
      The most sensitive issue, however, is from what other sources is it supposed to finance a hole in the budget. This, however, is not a hole, but simply a hole from several torpedoes, half a side in size. It is assumed that the missing money will be occupied in the market, and partly from an uncertain source. The problem is that life-giving sanctions, which we do not care, since we have laughing Iskanders, make it impossible to borrow money in foreign markets. So - they can only be found on the inside.
      На внутреннем рынке деньги есть в необходимом количестве только в одном месте: это вклады и сбережения населения. Вот их-то и будут "занимать", обменивая на "бронзовые" векселя. Проще говоря - конфисковывать в любых потребных количествах, пока не закончатся. Сбербанк и был приобретен (за счет этого же самого фонда национального "благосостояния), чтобы во-первых, запустить руку в кубышку Сбербанка, а во-вторых, вывести уважаемых людей, являющихся собственниками Сбера, из числа пайщиков-концессионеров без малейших для них потерь и убытков перед грандиозным гоп-стопом.
      Можно предположить развитие событий - государство будет щедро затыкать пробоины деньгами населения, а когда люди сообразят, что в ближайшем будущем на своих счетах они найдут только повесившуюся церковную мышь, и бросятся спасать кровные, им просто перекроют доступ и возможность обналичивать свои деньги. Под любым предлогом - введут лимиты или вообще запретят "временно" совершать операции со сберегательными счетами. По понятной причине - во-первых, режиму эти деньги нужнее, а во-вторых, если все бросятся снимать, то обнаружат, что снимать-то по большому счету уже нечего.

      PS Well, put everything in one place and draw conclusions yourself. Want, trust Kudrin and Gref. Or vice versa, listen to the opinion of Nesmiyan (El-Murid) hi
      1. Horon
        Horon April 22 2020 11: 54 New
        -1
        Well, this is only if you do not know about other news (source Lenta.ru):
        The cost of Russian oil Urals with delivery in Rotterdam fell below $ 10. As of the evening of Tuesday, April 21, it was trading at $ 9,5 per barrel, reports The Bell ...

        Yes Yes...
        https://nefturals.ru/
        1. Leshy1975
          Leshy1975 April 22 2020 12: 16 New
          +1
          Quote: Horon
          Well, this is only if you do not know about other news (source Lenta.ru):
          The cost of Russian oil Urals with delivery in Rotterdam fell below $ 10. As of the evening of Tuesday, April 21, it was trading at $ 9,5 per barrel, reports The Bell ...

          Yes Yes...
          https://nefturals.ru/

          Yes, yes (source RBC): Tuesday, April 21June futures Brent fell by more than 25% to the North Sea reference grade of oil, to $ 20,7 per barrel. The price of Russian oil Urals at 9:36 Moscow time fell to $ 7 per barrel, and by the middle of the day adjusted to $ 9,5follows from data from Revinitiv.

          Read more at RBC:
          https://www.rbc.ru/business/21/04/2020/5e9ec50f9a7947645f46e9ae
          1. Horon
            Horon April 22 2020 13: 12 New
            0
            I gave a site on which trades in real time are tracked and there is no such data. The maximum drop was yesterday and it was about 15 dollars! I repeat: TRADING IN REAL TIME, and you send me to analysts. Do you also find out the price of bread from analysts or are you still looking at the store yourself? The question is rhetorical, you can not answer.
            1. Leshy1975
              Leshy1975 April 22 2020 14: 25 New
              +7
              Quote: Horon
              I gave a site on which trades in real time are tracked and there is no such data. The maximum drop was yesterday and it was about 15 dollars! I repeat: TRADING IN REAL TIME, and you send me to analysts. Do you also find out the price of bread from analysts or are you still looking at the store yourself? The question is rhetorical, you can not answer.

              And what tools do you watch there in real time?
              If CFD, then this is a contract for difference of prices (Eng. Contract For Difference, CFD) is an agreement between two parties - the seller and the buyer on the transfer of the difference between the current value of the asset at the time of conclusion of the contract (opening a position) and its value at the end of the contract (closing position). Although the form of a contract for difference very similar to a contract for the supply of goodsBut seller is not required to own a real asset, the buyer does not get the right to demand delivery.
              In essence, CFDs are a derivative financial instrument for an underlying asset that allows you to earn income either by raising or lowering the price of the underlying commodity or security.

              Futures (from the English futures contract or the English futures, futures contract or futures contract) - a derivative financial instrument (contract) on the stock exchange of sale of the underlying asset (commodity, security, etc.), at the conclusion of which the parties (seller and the buyer) agree only on the price level and delivery time.

              In this case, futures are more indicative. Because imply the actual supply of oil. And because its oversupply, physical oil is practically nowhere to be stored and it’s expensive now, there are such big drops in futures contracts that are not available for other instruments. Traders simply dump them at a loss, if only not to get involved in the storage of physical oil that is no longer necessary for anyone.

              PS Well, and how do you like it all very much like going to the store and when was the last time you bought bread futures at retail?
              Do you also find out the price of bread from analysts or do you see it yourself in the store?
          2. Pilat2009
            Pilat2009 April 23 2020 17: 18 New
            -1
            Quote: Leshy1975
            a, yes (source RBC): On Tuesday, April 21, the June futures for the North Sea reference grade of Brent oil fell by more than 25%, to $ 20,7 per barrel

            Well, VTI American generally left at -40. The market is full, the vaults are full
      2. DenZ
        DenZ April 22 2020 12: 04 New
        +2
        Quote: Leshy1975
        PS Well, put everything in one place and draw conclusions yourself. Want, trust Kudrin and Gref. Or vice versa, listen to the opinion of Nesmiyan (El-Murid)

        In general, I only wrote about the specific news briefly indicated in the heading of the article, and not generally about the news in principle and not about trust in Kudrin and Gref, I did not write about this and did not hint at it in any way (because I don’t really need both of these characters pleasant (especially Gref)).
      3. Mordvin 3
        Mordvin 3 April 22 2020 19: 40 New
        +5
        Quote: Leshy1975
        they simply block access and the ability to cash out their money.

        Already overlap.
        1. Fan-fan
          Fan-fan April 23 2020 15: 56 New
          +1
          Damn, we need to urgently close the deposit and take the money, it’s better to lie down at home until all this settles down.
      4. Martin
        Martin April 23 2020 18: 50 New
        -1
        Quote: Leshy1975
        Or vice versa, listen to the opinion of Nesmiyan (El-Murid)

        Why is it the other way around? That Kudrin, that El-Murid, that "Lenta.sru" - the famous sources of fakes and shit-throwers.
      5. Campanella
        Campanella April 23 2020 23: 38 New
        +1
        Holiday at the expense of the people, as always!
        Почему-то вспомнилась фраза из 12 стульев " Собираем деньги на ремонт провала!"
        Until these children of Andropov are blamed, there will be nothing good for Russia. The USSR sold, terrible dogs bought Russia.
    4. ancient
      ancient April 22 2020 13: 19 New
      12
      Quote: DenZ
      blurted out without thinking

      Yes Yes.... wassat
      И.. "совершенно случайно" вносятся изменения в Закон о полиции bully .
      https://www.interfax.ru/russia/705418.
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      2. Metallurg_2
        Metallurg_2 April 24 2020 18: 43 New
        +1
        I wonder if it affects ordinary policemen and Rosgvardeytsev (not generals and colonels like Zakharchenko) - they will go to execute orders?
        They say that the army shoots at its people only once. The second time she shoots at strangers.
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  • Malyuta
    Malyuta April 22 2020 11: 16 New
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    Quote: Altona
    From these rats everything can be expected, from them it will become.

    Напёрсточники обязательно всех "кинут"-это их природа, только теперь в качестве "лохов" выступит вся страна.
    1. Lexus
      Lexus April 22 2020 15: 18 New
      +7
      Напёрсточники обязательно всех "кинут"-это их природа

      Их, видимо, не учили в детстве, что держать руки в карманах - плохо, тем более, в чужих. Нам скоро придётся восполнить это упущение. Сначала по рукам, потом по "щам". Как принято в нормальном обществе с карманниками поступать.
      1. Malyuta
        Malyuta April 22 2020 16: 34 New
        +7
        Quote: lexus
        Нам скоро придётся восполнить это упущение. Сначала по рукам, потом по "щам".

        In principle, you can use the French invention with the melodious name of the guillotine.
        1. Lexus
          Lexus April 22 2020 16: 45 New
          +4
          Учитывая масштабы некоторых "личностей" на "лифт-шузах", можно вполне простым садовым секатором обойтись.
  • Vend
    Vend April 22 2020 11: 17 New
    10
    I remember more than once already made moves with the contributions of citizens.
    1. Ross xnumx
      Ross xnumx April 22 2020 16: 02 New
      +7
      Quote: Wend
      I remember more than once already made moves with the contributions of citizens.

      good
      Gref is against it. lol He even thinks that Sberbank indexed deposits and paid compensation ...
      Gref assured that Sberbank is the most reliable place to store money. But doubts have already appeared among citizens.

      And this is pearl !!! fellow
      Later, the head of Sberbank of the Russian Federation German Gref joined in the excuses of Kudrin. He emphasized that Kudrin clearly didn’t mean that "да и изъять сбережения у граждан невозможно".

      But how they can be discounted within one year, we have already seen ... I still remember 15 Soviet rubles (I planned to buy a cooperative apartment).
      request
      1. Malyuta
        Malyuta April 22 2020 16: 27 New
        +8
        Quote: ROSS 42
        .I still remember 15 Soviet rubles (I planned to buy a cooperative apartment).

        Comrade, look at Shashurin’s channel on utub, where he talks about Soviet contributions. It would be interesting to hear your opinion on the subject of the facts he cites. hi
        1. Ross xnumx
          Ross xnumx April 22 2020 17: 45 New
          +6
          Quote: Malyuta
          It would be interesting to hear your opinion on the subject of the facts cited by him.

          Any one of your choice:

          I can’t be responsible for the accuracy of the information he cites one hundred percent, but the soundness of his reasoning corresponds to the statements of many people who held high posts in Soviet and post-Soviet times.
          It is difficult to recognize the government as honest if for more than a quarter century it has been crushing water in a mortar, and theft and fraud continue in the country. All threads lead to the Kremlin, which so intensely whitewashes itself with zeroing, amendments and non-involvement in negative events. Wow! Everything happens on its own ...
          1. Malyuta
            Malyuta April 22 2020 17: 56 New
            +8
            Quote: ROSS 42
            but the soundness of his reasoning matches the statements of many people,

            Согласен, я написал Вам на тему "потерянных" вкладов, а Шашуотн утверждает, что всё в целости и сохранности, вот где интересные факты.
  • Alien From
    Alien From April 22 2020 14: 09 New
    0
    Golden words))))) neither give nor take !!!!!!
  • smart ass
    smart ass April 23 2020 17: 33 New
    -1
    I won’t be surprised if I come to withdraw money from the card, and the ATM says “I’m temporarily not working”, so I took the money in advance, I don’t hold any more money to pay for the phone and the Internet.
    1. Alf
      Alf April 23 2020 18: 40 New
      0
      Quote: Clever man
      and the ATM will say “temporarily not working”

  • fruit_cake
    fruit_cake April 22 2020 10: 57 New
    15
    my relative had 10 thousand Soviet rubles on the passbook, after the 91st year they turned into candy wrappers
    1. Piramidon
      Piramidon April 22 2020 11: 02 New
      18
      Увольнялся из армии в ноябре 91-го. Пока думал, что приобрести на "дембельские" деньги (6тыр.), государство, чтобы я мозги не напрягал, через месяц за меня всё решило.
    2. evgenii67
      evgenii67 April 22 2020 11: 14 New
      +5
      Quote: fruit_cake
      my relative had 10 thousand Soviet rubles on the passbook, after the 91st year they turned into candy wrappers

      Not only your relative, such millions of citizens, including my grandfather. My grandfather wanted to give this money to my parents, they say to help a young family, and they say we can handle it ourselves, and there this money could be enough for a car, as a result, money bye-bye.
      1. Semen Sychev
        Semen Sychev April 22 2020 15: 22 New
        +9
        Sorry, but you wanted a strong state with a strong leader, and here you are, Putin signs all these laws and with a strong hand squeezes the throat of the population. What are you dissatisfied with?
        1. Ross xnumx
          Ross xnumx April 22 2020 16: 06 New
          11
          Цитата: Семен Сычёв
          Sorry, but you wanted a strong state with a strong leader

          We wanted a strong-willed leader, a statesman with honest intentions, who would pursue a social policy to improve the lives of most citizens of the country.
          And we saw grabbers, liars, money-grubbers from a wide variety of perspectives.
          1. Semen Sychev
            Semen Sychev April 22 2020 16: 50 New
            10
            Quote: ROSS 42
            honest statesman

            But excuse me, Putin lied from the first terms. When he defeated the oligarchs, his classmates became billionaires.
            Remind me of Putin’s many years of struggle with rising gas prices, regardless of the price of oil?
            Maybe you forgot about the irremovable Government, when the same faces simply changed their seats after a certain period of time?
            Vladimir Vladimirovich has not cheated on himself and has been pursuing his own policy for 20 years now, what did you want, recall?
            1. Ross xnumx
              Ross xnumx April 22 2020 19: 05 New
              +7
              Цитата: Семен Сычёв
              But excuse me, Putin lied from the first terms.

              That’s why I don’t vote for him ...
            2. Campanella
              Campanella April 23 2020 23: 23 New
              +2
              He really defeated the oligarchs ... strangers and made his own.
              Ghoul in one word.
    3. smart ass
      smart ass April 23 2020 19: 53 New
      0
      And my grandfather had 10 thousand rubles on a book, accumulated on the Volga ... and the money turned into our 10 thousand
  • Svarog
    Svarog April 22 2020 10: 57 New
    18
    The recent speech by the head of the Accounts Chamber, Alexei Kudrin, who allowed the government to raise private funds, scared many Russians who still have some savings in banks.

    When it smells fried, they will throw it without hesitation, as they threw it more than once ..
  • Starover_Z
    Starover_Z April 22 2020 10: 58 New
    11
    He spoke about the usual practice of banks in all countries to invest surplus funds, including deposits of individuals, in government bonds.

    Voucher campaign number 2?! They will freeze deposits and give stamp papers with an oath promise to return everything in NN years ?!
    1. den3080
      den3080 April 22 2020 11: 10 New
      +5
      Quote: Starover_Z
      He spoke about the usual practice of banks in all countries to invest surplus funds, including deposits of individuals, in government bonds.

      Voucher campaign number 2?! They will freeze deposits and give stamp papers with an oath promise to return everything in NN years ?!

      Ltd. I remember these colored candy wrappers of government bonds on which the citizens of the USSR signed up by order, as whole collectives.
      Found them in my grandmother’s dresser after her death. A little, multi-colored and absolutely unnecessary to anyone.
      Kudrin not in vain blurted / threw. We were instructed to probe - fulfilled.

      OFZs have now been launched. Take it. Do not be shy.
      Store under the mattress - not an option (ish che thought up!). You can (need) cancel the circulation of cash in the country - you understand the number, keeping up with progress, about a couple of reports about Sweden (there are shops where cash has not been accepted for several years), again coronavirus to help - spread the infection with banknotes (there was already a report).
      1. carstorm 11
        carstorm 11 April 22 2020 11: 25 New
        -7
        what years? 82? 56? don't even think about losing them. then you will be very sorry. payments on Soviet debts are now frozen, but they are still slowly being bought out by Sberbank and DIA. and sooner or later, the decision to redeem them will have to be made completely. in 15, when we quarreled with Europe, we ceased to recognize the decisions of Strasbourg, but before that, the plaintiffs won all the courts on this subject. google pensioner Lobanov for example.
      2. businessv
        businessv April 22 2020 11: 26 New
        +3
        Quote: den3080
        Found them in my grandmother’s dresser after her death. A little, multi-colored and absolutely unnecessary to anyone.

        And my grandmother constantly exchanged them for rubles with interest, very happy at the same time that there were 200, it became 206! And again, I bought without orders, but also without a collective, too.smile
      3. awdrgy
        awdrgy April 22 2020 12: 09 New
        +4
        And it’s better to stick a chip in your hand or attach it to your forehead, finally your beauty! It’s true then, with health, what kind of garbage thread will happen (and maybe with the soul), but these are trifles, the main thing is then But no infection will catch (die silently and class alone!) You can’t trust anyone even yourself, therefore it’s necessary to withdraw money, although they may depreciate but it’s better than if you suddenly press the button and the account freezes (or as an option the ATM will stop issuing or the bank well, etc.). He also paid cash in Africa!
      4. Ross xnumx
        Ross xnumx April 22 2020 16: 15 New
        +3
        Quote: den3080
        Found them in my grandmother’s dresser after her death. A little, multi-colored and absolutely unnecessary to anyone.

        Surely this is 1982 and 1992 release. And here is 1956:

        The largest loan to strengthen the growth of the national economy was issued in 1956 in the amount of 34 billion. The value of coupons ranged from 10 to 500 rubles. The conditions assumed that at the end of the placement period, the owners will receive either the amount of the cost including interest, or a win. In 1957, the payment of bonuses on loans were suspended. The freeze lasted almost 20 years. The repayment began in 1974 and lasted until 1990. The final settlements were completed in 1991 in December. At present, government debt on securities issued in 1956 is deemed repaid. Perhaps collectors are interested in bonds of 1956, the price will depend on their external condition.
        1. den3080
          den3080 April 22 2020 16: 55 New
          0
          no, there were old rarities, here are the 50s and 60s.
          threw out.
    2. Uncle lee
      Uncle lee April 22 2020 12: 37 New
      +6
      Quote: Starover_Z
      Freeze deposits

      I went, removed the remains and put the car on the paint! repeat
      1. Svarog
        Svarog April 22 2020 13: 23 New
        +6
        Quote: Uncle Lee
        Quote: Starover_Z
        Freeze deposits

        I went, removed the remains and put the car on the paint! repeat

        I heard that interest will be removed from the deposit, immediately went and took everything off. Now cash is more reliable to store, and in cash dollars it is even more reliable ..
        1. Uncle lee
          Uncle lee April 22 2020 13: 28 New
          +3
          Quote: Svarog
          dollars

          Не скажите...Трамп может "заграничные" доллары обнулить....
          Everything is so unsteady, everything can be reset! hi
          1. Svarog
            Svarog April 22 2020 13: 30 New
            +5
            Quote: Uncle Lee
            Quote: Svarog
            dollars

            Не скажите...Трамп может "заграничные" доллары обнулить....
            Everything is so unsteady, everything can be reset! hi

            There is of course such a probability, but it is significantly lower than the zeroed rupe .. hi
            1. Uncle lee
              Uncle lee April 22 2020 13: 34 New
              +4
              100 $ меняли, 50 $ меняли....У нас более предпочтительнее "фазаны" -10000 йен. wink
              1. Alf
                Alf April 22 2020 19: 24 New
                +4
                Quote: Uncle Lee
                100 $ меняли, 50 $ меняли....У нас более предпочтительнее "фазаны" -10000 йен. wink

                Probably now the most reliable currency.

                what
        2. atalef
          atalef April 22 2020 13: 30 New
          -3
          Quote: Svarog
          Quote: Uncle Lee
          Quote: Starover_Z
          Freeze deposits

          I went, removed the remains and put the car on the paint! repeat

          I heard that interest will be removed from the deposit, immediately went and took everything off. Now cash is more reliable to store, and in cash dollars it is even more reliable ..

          Well, freeze - this is unlikely.
          But to withdraw, so as not to pay tax, is stupid.
          Tk income tax.
          At least something will remain, but nothing at all.
          By the way, how does your anti-capitalism fit in with the desire to keep in dollars?
          Separate flies from cutlets?
          As comrade Saahov said
          1. Svarog
            Svarog April 22 2020 13: 31 New
            +9
            By the way, how does your anti-capitalism fit in with the desire to keep in dollars?
            Separate flies from cutlets?

            It fits easily, living with wolves howl like a wolf .. if that tells you something ..
  • AAK
    AAK April 22 2020 10: 58 New
    +3
    Очередная "оговорка по-Фрейду"..."...с каждым днём всё радостнее жить..."
  • Prahlad
    Prahlad April 22 2020 10: 59 New
    +5
    Better pick up before it's too late! This has already happened, debt bonds, etc. It’s better to keep it in foreign currency. And then they can carry out the devaluation.
    1. Sotskiy
      Sotskiy April 22 2020 15: 05 New
      +4
      Quote: Prahlad
      It’s better to keep it in foreign currency.

      laughing We had in our office a foreign currency account in a bank with which we had been working for 15 years. Zero our unforgettable Central Bank of the Russian Federation, a bank in a place with our working capital and another half of the city in addition fellow . В конце ноября продлил лецензию, а в декабре (через три недели) аннулировал. Денежки тю,тю. А теперь конкурсный управляющий будет нам рассказывать сколько потрачено на "управление" и сколько из остатков поделят очередники в течении нескольких лет и в рубликах, а не в валютеlaughing If you now store money in banks, then only in three-liter ones. wink
    2. Campanella
      Campanella April 23 2020 23: 19 New
      +2
      Better to have power! In the meantime, the power has us ...
      And to take away the currency from you, too, 2 fingers on the asphalt.
      Выйдет под камеру скажет "Обстоятельства,прошу понять...срочно всем принести валюту!"
  • sanik2020
    sanik2020 April 22 2020 11: 00 New
    +6
    Do not believe everything that they say, but the word is not a sparrow, you won’t fly out. But the fact that such words flew out may indicate that the authorities are still thinking: how not to offend their own people and how to minimize the crisis by means of the people.
  • alone
    alone April 22 2020 11: 00 New
    14
    Poor people !! How many years already rip off and rob! Anyway, the grabbers are hungry !!

    And why didn’t Kudrin use the accounts of oligarchs and officials? Oh yes, I forgot completely. You can’t offend friends
    1. Altona
      Altona April 22 2020 11: 07 New
      +9
      Quote: lonely
      And why didn’t Kudrin use the accounts of oligarchs and officials?

      ----------------------
      А где кстати его хваленые "подушки безопасности"? По карманам распихали?
      1. alone
        alone April 22 2020 11: 16 New
        15
        Quote: Altona
        А где кстати его хваленые "подушки безопасности"? По карманам распихали?

        And who saw that pillow? what In the same place as the pension fund hi
      2. Svarog
        Svarog April 22 2020 11: 17 New
        +8
        Quote: Altona
        А где кстати его хваленые "подушки безопасности"? По карманам распихали?

        Они себе их под пятую точку готовили и туда же распихают.. При этом провозглашая громкие названия типа "Фонд Народного Благосостояния" или "Народное достояние" , а в реалиях слово "народное" тут не уместно..
  • BREAKTHROUGH READY
    BREAKTHROUGH READY April 22 2020 11: 01 New
    -36
    Liberda still can’t get drunk, sleeps and sees how to once again put his paw on the welfare of the people.
    I hope Vladimir Vladimirovich is in control of the situation, keeps these crafters in check and will be able to protect ordinary people.
    1. Svarog
      Svarog April 22 2020 11: 05 New
      26
      Quote: READY FOR BREAKTHROUGH
      I hope Vladimir Vladimirovich is in control of the situation, keeps these crafters in check

      Not only owns, but controls the situation, under his strict control there is a robbery of the population.
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    3. Altona
      Altona April 22 2020 11: 09 New
      +4
      Quote: READY FOR BREAKTHROUGH
      I hope Vladimir Vladimirovich is in control of the situation, keeps these crafters in check and will be able to protect ordinary people.

      ------------------------
      Vitaly, Christ is Risen! Happy Easter to you! Do not think about mortal ...
      1. Grandfather
        Grandfather April 22 2020 18: 47 New
        +5
        Quote: Altona
        ------------------------
        Vitaly, Christ is Risen! Happy Easter to you! Do not think about mortal ...

        Mikhan’s mash does not end ....
        1. Svarog
          Svarog April 22 2020 21: 24 New
          -1
          Quote: Dead Day
          Quote: Altona
          ------------------------
          Vitaly, Christ is Risen! Happy Easter to you! Do not think about mortal ...

          Mikhan’s mash does not end ....

          Like the number of nicks wassat
    4. Malyuta
      Malyuta April 22 2020 11: 11 New
      16
      Quote: READY FOR BREAKTHROUGH
      I hope Vladimir Vladimirovich is in control of the situation, keeps these crafters in check and will be able to protect ordinary people.

      Hopefully, but it will not help either you or Vladimir Vladimirich.
    5. Don
      Don April 22 2020 11: 12 New
      19
      Quote: READY FOR BREAKTHROUGH
      I hope Vladimir Vladimirovich is in control of the situation, keeps these crafters in check and will be able to protect ordinary people.

      20 лет уже защищает так, что не знаешь куда деться от его "защиты". Особенно в последние годы, вообще пошел в разнос. Даже мизерных, нищенских пенсионных 5 летних выплат лишил, защитник am.
      1. Malyuta
        Malyuta April 22 2020 11: 30 New
        16
        Quote: Donskoy
        20 лет уже защищает так, что не знаешь куда деться от его "защиты". Особенно в последние годы, вообще пошел в разнос. Даже мизерных, нищенских пенсионных 5 летних выплат лишил, защитник

        We’ll be angrier!
        1. bukhach
          bukhach April 22 2020 12: 23 New
          -17
          You and your like-minded anger are already higher than the roof, you urgently need to throw it out, otherwise you will choke. Go to the barricades, tear and throw away the predatory and venal power and you will have happiness and prosperity!
          1. AUL
            AUL April 22 2020 14: 17 New
            11
            Quote: Buhach
            You and your like-minded anger are already higher than the roof,

            Олег, а вам не кажется, что эта злоба небезосновательна ? Люди злятся не просто "из общей говнистости", а по вполне объективным причинам!
            1. bukhach
              bukhach April 24 2020 04: 49 New
              0
              Judging by the responses of the masses, she was offended by a hefty amount, but a little is needed to stir up the adder! laughing Александр,люди имеют право на выражение своих чувств,с этим никто не спорит,подчёркиваю-люди а не тупая злобная толпа живущая не разумом а инстинктом,это первое.Второе: злоба всегда безосновательна,она туманит мозг и превращает людей в толпу,а что такое злобная толпа вам надо объяснять или не надо?В этом был мой посыл на "злее будем".Как видите ,злобность привлекает тут немало кадров и ,очевидно,им мало,хотят быть ещё злее.Как говорится-флаг им в руки и барабан на шею.
              1. AUL
                AUL April 24 2020 09: 32 New
                +3
                Quote: Buhach
                people have the right to express their feelings, no one argues with this, I emphasize, people and not a stupid evil crowd living not by reason but by instinct, this is the first

                Oleg, and by what criterion do you divide the contingent into people and the crowd? Can you bring personalities from both categories?
                1. bukhach
                  bukhach April 26 2020 09: 10 New
                  0
                  If you are not able to recognize the crowd, if you don’t know by what signs it can be distinguished, then I don’t feel sorry for you, because you will easily and naturally become part of the crowd, if you decide to show off your intellect then buy a rooster on the market and, well, you know that do next. wink
                  1. AUL
                    AUL April 26 2020 13: 44 New
                    +1
                    Yes. very arrogant answer, but thanks for coming down!
                    Nevertheless, you did not answer the question (and it seems that you will not answer). Although, it can be assumed that you consider yourself to be people, and those who do not agree with you to the crowd.
                    Incidentally, crowd not always wrong ...
    6. businessv
      businessv April 22 2020 11: 22 New
      +4
      Quote: READY FOR BREAKTHROUGH
      I hope Vladimir Vladimirovich is in control of the situation, keeps these crafters in check

      Of course, he keeps the little crooks in check, it is impossible to control them without a reins, where he sent them, we also see!
      1. Malyuta
        Malyuta April 22 2020 12: 17 New
        15
        Quote: businessv
        Of course, he keeps the little crooks in check, it is impossible to control them without a reins, where he sent them, we also see!

        В какой узде, единственная скрепа ,которая их держит-это компромат о том, кто и сколько своровал и на какие при этом пошёл преступления.А вот тех кто не занёс в общак или кусок проглотил не по ранжиру, тех конечно прилюдно "распнут" и набутылизируют.
        1. businessv
          businessv April 22 2020 19: 23 New
          +4
          Quote: Malyuta
          In what reins, the only bond that holds them is compromising

          So what difference does it make, colleague, what kind of reins and what it looks like - compromising, capital, all one thing - reins!
    7. Alf
      Alf April 22 2020 19: 27 New
      +4
      Quote: READY FOR BREAKTHROUGH
      I hope Vladimir Vladimirovich is in control of the situation, keeps these crafters in check and will be able to protect ordinary people.

    8. Revival
      Revival April 23 2020 16: 57 New
      0
      And you joke so joke!
      Cool trolling! Laughing for a long time!
      1. Alf
        Alf April 23 2020 18: 27 New
        +1
        Quote: Revival
        And you joke so joke!

        But what jokes are there, I want to cry.
        But there are still people who believe in him. I have one in my group, a puncher, who has worked for 50 years already. For Putin, anyone’s mouth will tear and the proofs are all the same — you need to work better, if not Putin, then who. And it’s useless to at least explain something.
        1. Revival
          Revival April 23 2020 18: 29 New
          -1
          Unfortunately, according to observations, there is always a loyal core of 20, 30 percent, which is for any power, even for hell, because power.
          Добровольно рабское мышление. "Жираф большой ему видней"...
  • BISMARCK94
    BISMARCK94 April 22 2020 11: 02 New
    +7
    As practice shows, there is no confidence in banks, it is better to store cabbage in several currencies and under a mattress
    1. carstorm 11
      carstorm 11 April 22 2020 11: 26 New
      -14
      what a dense stupidity ... the probability of losing the amount in rubles even now is scanty so much that you cannot even call an error. all the more, deposits up to 1.4 million ...
      1. BISMARCK94
        BISMARCK94 April 22 2020 11: 45 New
        +8
        Well, yes, minuscule. for example, I am now saving up for new hardware for a computer. Computer components are very dependent on a piece of paper with the American president and the price tags in our stores respond almost instantly. Well, what is more profitable to save?)
        1. carstorm 11
          carstorm 11 April 22 2020 12: 53 New
          -10
          What does your accumulation of iron have to do with it? I talked about deposits in banks and not about the dollar. on iron, you can save yourself a piece of bucks or how much you plan there and in cash. this is not the topic at all.
        2. Alf
          Alf April 22 2020 19: 29 New
          +3
          Quote: BISMARCK94
          Well, what is more profitable to save?)

          In computers. laughing
      2. Revival
        Revival April 23 2020 18: 31 New
        0
        Power in two minutes changes any law! What are 1,4 million? Which DIA?
        Clap and law per day, amendment and no guarantees.
        Please treat with understanding ...
  • Pvi1206
    Pvi1206 April 22 2020 11: 05 New
    +1
    white came - rob, red came - rob ... nowhere to go to the people ...
    1. Pvi1206
      Pvi1206 April 22 2020 11: 06 New
      +3
      everything above 1400000 will be frozen and then forgiven ...
      1. Revival
        Revival April 23 2020 17: 04 New
        -2
        If desired in one day! The click of a button in the Duma and the law on deposits and DIA can easily be canceled (paused / changed), but here: it is reset!
        DIA is asv ..
        1. Pvi1206
          Pvi1206 April 23 2020 17: 15 New
          0
          It would be interesting to conduct such an experiment ... will the people really endure this time too? ...
          1. Revival
            Revival April 23 2020 18: 25 New
            -2
            Our people are such a people that ...
    2. Demon_is_ada
      Demon_is_ada April 22 2020 11: 21 New
      10
      Ну это судьба "мояхатаскрайников" crying Smarter ones join either red or white and participate in the loot section laughing The main thing is to choose the right side and its prospects in the future according to moral convictions ... After joining the whites, you will plunder the people, the red ones - the oligarchs, who in turn are pulled from the people, so to speak - the robbery is looted laughing It's time to decide on ideology or be forever suckers-terpils hi
    3. bukhach
      bukhach April 22 2020 12: 25 New
      -1
      We must go to the green ones, help out, darlings.
  • Pessimist22
    Pessimist22 April 22 2020 11: 06 New
    -6
    Under the communists, government bonds were vparivany, and now they do not know how to shod the population.
    1. businessv
      businessv April 22 2020 11: 19 New
      +6
      Quote: Pessimist22
      Under communists, bonds of state loan

      The most reliable investment, by the way! Suggest a modern alternative! And they didn’t sell, and people bought them with pleasure because they were guaranteed to receive 3% of the deposit, and they could win a prize, and it was always a limited edition!
      1. UserGun
        UserGun April 22 2020 13: 35 New
        -12
        Quote: businessv
        The most reliable investment, by the way! Suggest a modern alternative! And they didn’t sell, and people bought them with pleasure because they were guaranteed to receive 3% of the deposit, and they could win a prize, and it was always a limited edition!


        Угу..."Надёжное"...У моей матери в радикюле лежала пачка облигаций, given to her instead of a salary. And so she lay, until the death of the SS.
        1. Alf
          Alf April 22 2020 19: 31 New
          +1
          Quote: UserGun
          Quote: businessv
          The most reliable investment, by the way! Suggest a modern alternative! And they didn’t sell, and people bought them with pleasure because they were guaranteed to receive 3% of the deposit, and they could win a prize, and it was always a limited edition!


          Угу..."Надёжное"...У моей матери в радикюле лежала пачка облигаций, given to her instead of a salary. And so she lay, until the death of the SS.

          Has your family tried to hand them over?
          1. UserGun
            UserGun April 22 2020 19: 48 New
            -4
            Do you even know the topic?

            P.S. Советую для начала почитать текст постановления ЦК КПСС, Совмина СССР от 19.04.1957 N 435 "О государственных займах, размещаемых по подписке среди трудящихся Советского Союза" чтобы не задавать глупых вопросов.
            1. Alf
              Alf April 22 2020 20: 00 New
              +3
              Quote: UserGun
              Do you even know the topic?

              P.S. Советую для начала почитать текст постановления ЦК КПСС, Совмина СССР от 19.04.1957 N 435 "О государственных займах, размещаемых по подписке среди трудящихся Советского Союза" чтобы не задавать глупых вопросов.

              Before you write nonsense, it is better to find out how the state redeemed these bonds.
              The issue of the 51-52th years was extinguished in the very beginning of the 80s, the newspapers published decrees on cancellation and on which episodes are repaid at what time in any savings bank. And all this without panic and, as they say, in working order. And people, well, except for those who threw them away, quietly cashed them.
              1. UserGun
                UserGun April 22 2020 20: 02 New
                -4
                Hey hey !!!

                "The XXIV Congress of the CPSU even decided to repay in advance from 1974 all internal loans of the USSR issued before 1957. However, for this in the state budget symbolic amounts were allocated in 1.5 billion rubles a yearthat did the repayment of the debt defined in 1957 in 25 billion, very distant perspective."
                1. Alf
                  Alf April 22 2020 20: 05 New
                  +2
                  Quote: UserGun
                  Hey hey !!!

                  "The XXIV Congress of the CPSU even decided to repay in advance from 1974 all internal loans of the USSR issued before 1957. However, for this in the state budget symbolic amounts were allocated in 1.5 billion rubles a yearthat did the repayment of the debt defined in 1957 in 25 billion, very distant perspective."

                  You know better, giggle on ... My family quietly cashed the bonds, and yours giggled.
                  1. UserGun
                    UserGun April 22 2020 20: 11 New
                    -3
                    Well, some part of the URVALA, as they said at that time))) Only now almost all the loans remained outstanding COMPLETELY. Only partially. Including bonds of my mother and many more. And there’s no need to talk about something that you don’t fully know and don’t own.
                    1. Alf
                      Alf April 22 2020 20: 30 New
                      +2
                      Quote: UserGun
                      Only now, almost all loans have remained outstanding in full.

                      Не погасить их тогда мог только тот, кто газет не читал, что было тогда нонсенсом и был глух, как пробка чтобы не слышать разговоры "на лавочке". И соотносить термин "урвать" с сообщениями во всех крупных газетах мог только человек, который очень любил посиделки на кухнях с самиздатом в руках.
                      1. UserGun
                        UserGun April 22 2020 21: 20 New
                        -3
                        Т.е. вы конкретно обвиняете МИЛЛИОНЫ обманутых людей в глухоте и слепоте ?! ))) Продолжайте дальше, в том же духе! Только вот веры после этого больше не станет. Обутые "святой" эсэсэрией, на почве государственных займов, это факт исторический, как не пытайся доказать обратное.
                2. Alf
                  Alf April 22 2020 21: 56 New
                  +1
                  Quote: UserGun
                  займов СССР, выпущенных до 1957 года. Однако для этого в государственном бюджете выделялись символические суммы в 1.5 млрд рублей в год, что делало погашение долга, определенного в 1957 году в 25 млрд рублей,"

                  В 1974 году было выделено, по Вашим словам, "символическая" сумма в 1,5 миллиарда.
                  Debt in 1957 was estimated at 25 billion.
                  The first question is, what happened to money in 1961?
                  The second question is, if in the 57th year the debt was 25 billion, then what did it become in 1974?
                  The answer for those who are not able to count is 2,5 billion.
                  The last question is, if the debt was estimated at 2,5 billion, and 1,5 billion was allocated per year, then over how many years this debt should have been repaid?
                  If it’s bad with an oral account, then I’ll say in two years, which was done.
              2. UserGun
                UserGun April 22 2020 20: 05 New
                -2
                In 1982, a new freely circulating 20-year domestic winning 3% loan of 20 billion rubles was issued, which was sold to the population through savings banks for cash. The owner of the winning bond with a face value of 10 thousand rubles received the right to an extraordinary purchase of the Volga car, and 5 thousand rubles - the car Zhiguli or Moskvich. It was planned to exchange for a loan in 1982 in 1986, which did not go into circulation in 1966 loan bonds.
                This was the last domestic loan in the history of the USSR, remaining outstanding, like all other loans, as a result of the collapse and collapse of the Soviet Union. Even if the Soviet Union continued to exist, there was no hope of paying off his domestic loans.
      2. AU Ivanov.
        AU Ivanov. April 22 2020 15: 12 New
        -4
        Ага, с удовольствием. Это называется "добровольно- принудительно" и попробовали бы вы не купить на определенную часть зарплаты эти самые облигации. Старшее поколение рассказывала, как это было добровольно и с каким удовольствием.
        1. Essex62
          Essex62 April 24 2020 01: 09 New
          +2
          Не надо свистеть. Заставить рабочего человека что-либо сделать, тем более вырвать из семейного бюджета, даже небольшую сумму ,у начальничков не было ну ни какой возможности. За каждый "червонец", кровный могли послать в путешествие, хоть директора,хоть парторга. НЕ было рычагов воздействия у начальства. Так по мелочи, ноль почти. Госслужащим и особенно торгашам ,в этом плане тоскливей приходилось.Их могли и заставить. Вот это старшее поколение Вам наверно и рассказывало.
          Any government seeks to milk the stash of the population, with a more or less degree of arrogance and treachery. Soviet paid and returned. And people didn’t particularly strain such things confidently looking into the future.
    2. Alf
      Alf April 22 2020 19: 31 New
      +4
      Quote: Pessimist22
      Under the communists, government bonds

      You will still laugh, but THAT the state paid off your debt-bonds on time and in full.
      1. UserGun
        UserGun April 22 2020 19: 56 New
        -1
        Of course of course!!!

        "19 апреля 1957 года ЦК КПСС и Совет министров СССР приняли постановление «О государственных займах, размещаемых по подписке среди трудящихся Советского Союза», согласно которому выпуск новых займов прекращался, платежи по размещенным ранее займам were delayed by 20 years and winning runs were canceled. Payments were supposed to resume in 1977 year и вестись ежегодными равными платежами на протяжении еще 20 лет"

        Hospadya, would you at least start to enlighten something ....
  • Thrifty
    Thrifty April 22 2020 11: 07 New
    +8
    But let the country's savings bank return the currency illegally exported from the country, and convert it partially into rubles! Enough to recreate the economy from scratch!
  • tatra
    tatra April 22 2020 11: 11 New
    10
    This anti-Soviet power has accustomed the Russian people to the fact that it can only be trusted when it promises to make people bad. She always honestly fulfills these promises.
    1. AUL
      AUL April 22 2020 14: 29 New
      +5
      Не "сделать плохо народу", а "непопулярное решение"! Но, конечно, ради блага этого самого народа. wink
  • Alexy
    Alexy April 22 2020 11: 13 New
    +5
    They are people from another planet and the problems of ordinary people are unfamiliar to them.
    1. aries2200
      aries2200 April 22 2020 11: 21 New
      +5
      then it is either a predator or a stranger ... therefore, liquidation is necessary !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
  • businessv
    businessv April 22 2020 11: 16 New
    +3
    Later, the head of Sberbank of the Russian Federation German Gref joined in the excuses of Kudrin. He emphasized that Kudrin clearly did not mean that.
    Нужно было ему ещё добавить, что ,- "мы с сотоварищами всегда говорим не то, что имеем в виду, а делаем тоже совсем не то, что нужно!"
  • aries2200
    aries2200 April 22 2020 11: 20 New
    +2
    Hey!! who is there nearby kinky Kyle on the head give !!!! how many people can be rubbed !! ??
    1. OLEG_ZOTOV
      OLEG_ZOTOV April 22 2020 14: 04 New
      +4
      Quote: aries2200
      Hey!! who is there nearby kinky Kyle on the head give !!!! how many people can be rubbed !! ??


      There are several types around him, but hardly any of them will give him a head ...




  • ZVS
    ZVS April 22 2020 11: 21 New
    +3
    Let the crooks who stole in the 90s and continue to steal now, and profit from their own people sponsor the state. The old people will accumulate the unfortunate half-lyama for the funeral, and the state will take this money from them? There are grefs, Putin’s friends - the billionaires Sechin and Miller, and not only that, let money be taken from them. And still it is necessary to reduce government spending on the same general directors of state-owned companies, deputies of all stripes, on the maintenance of Putin's residences throughout Russia, to reduce the state apparatus (there are twice as many loafers here than there were in the USSR). And thus fill the budget. It will be a lot of money.
    1. your1970
      your1970 April 22 2020 15: 31 New
      -8
      Quote: SU
      reduce the state apparatus (loafers here are twice as many as in the USSR).
      -agu ... only now, you forgot about the district committees, city committees, regional committees, regional committees .... who had many times more power than the village councils, village councils, city councils and the like ... two parallel apparatus of government in the USSR was .. and this is not mentioning the apparatus of all levels of the Komsomol and trade union committees
      1. ZVS
        ZVS April 23 2020 14: 48 New
        +1
        The idiot, all regional committees, district committees and were the state apparatus that were part of the territorial administration.
        1. your1970
          your1970 April 23 2020 22: 57 New
          -3
          Quote: SU
          The idiot, all regional committees, district committees were state apparatus included in the management of territories.
          -o smart erupted ..
          Have you heard about the Soviets ??? ah no?
          So formally according to the Constitution of the USSR 1977
          - "Статья 2. Вся власть в СССР принадлежит народу.
          The people exercise state power through the Soviets of People's Deputies, which make up the political basis of the USSR.
          All other (!!!!) state (!!!!) authorities (!!!!) controlled (!!!) и подотчетны Советам народных депутатов."

          And now clever head off (surely ??) we turn on and remember that in each settlement there were separately a district committee and a district council, a city committee and a city council, and so on. Moreover, both of these offices always sat in DIFFERENT buildings and usually the party building was richer. And the staff of the party committee was bigger and better garage- Volga 24 and 31 were laid by him, and the Soviets drove on the remains until Victory in the early 80's ..
          And now we recall any Soviet film and it turns out that there was power - not from the Soviets, and from 1 secretary of the local party committee. Because it was he who ran to complain to, he set the time for sowing / harvesting, he executed and had mercy. And I would see how the council would blame against 1 secretary.
          By the way, it was then that everyone didn’t give a damn what was written in the Constitution ...

          2 parallel structures of power is exactly what I wrote about when you fell into anger ...

          And I repeat this, I still don’t touch the Komsomol with my apparatus, Trade unions with my apparatus, the Army with liberated party organizers (and a position no lower than colonel in the regiments), and a bunch of functionalities

          Approximately 70% percent now the state apparatus is less than under the USSR and then only at the expense of customs and tax (which did not exist before) - there wouldn’t be them; the ratio of the state apparatus in terms of area and population would be like in the USSR.
          All other state bodies were under the USSR, all ..... if you strain and remember, remember ..
          1. ZVS
            ZVS April 24 2020 17: 46 New
            +1
            Do you yourself have any idea who owned the power in the country in matters of economy and government? Different buildings ... laughing The buildings are different, and the power structure was the regional committees, city committees, district committees. Does the executive branch always report to the state plan to whom? Before the committees of the party, which took an active part in the implementation of this plan, because and they were asked by higher party structures.
            1. your1970
              your1970 April 24 2020 21: 57 New
              -1
              Quote: SU
              Do you yourself have any idea who owned the power in the country in matters of economy and government? Different buildings ... The buildings are different, and the power structure was the regional committees, city committees, district committees.

              1) Two control units ...
              2) even then everyone was spit. on Article 2 of the Constitution of the USSR (another word is obscene, but banned)
              So why are you surprised TODAY- if a THEN one power was written in the Constitution, but in fact others had power .....

              Z.Y. and I don’t need about the structure of power then- I lived then and I remember everything perfectly
  • Nikolaevich I
    Nikolaevich I April 22 2020 11: 35 New
    +5
    Доллары,евро покупать уже поздно..."поезд ушёл" ! На протяжении ряда лет (в последнее время) выгодным "вложением средств" считается приобретение драг.металлов...но и тут есть свои "нюансы",которые не всех устраивают...да и в данном случае тоже действует правило:"раньше надо было думать !"...
  • regdan
    regdan April 22 2020 11: 36 New
    +2
    No faith in Russia, no faith in Russia ...
  • Oleg Skvortsov
    Oleg Skvortsov April 22 2020 11: 39 New
    +4
    Who is keeping accounts now? In glass jars it is necessary - verified by a hundred years of experience. And they will necessarily rob - a matter of time ...
    1. your1970
      your1970 April 22 2020 15: 32 New
      -4
      Quote: Oleg Skvortsov
      Who is keeping accounts now? In glass jars it is necessary - verified by a hundred years of experience. And they will necessarily rob - a matter of time ...
      - in the country 57 million deposits in the amount of more million ...
  • Chaldon48
    Chaldon48 April 22 2020 11: 48 New
    +3
    Why did our officials choose Twitter as a mouthpiece for all kinds of statements, is it that Trump influenced them so much?
  • 23424636
    23424636 April 22 2020 11: 54 New
    -1
    to keep money in the bank over 1 million rubles can persons who have funds significantly higher than these amounts. The game on deposits. Well, so-so occupation. Will not be robbed but will give a tip.
  • samarin1969
    samarin1969 April 22 2020 11: 57 New
    +8
    Who will believe after Pavlov, Gerashchenko, Yeltsin ... laughing... Yes, and there were statements in 2014 that those who buy a dollar at 35 will lose ...
    У нашего правительства надежда только на вирус. Тот не признаёт "тихих валютных гаваней". Лупит по всем. Напечатать 5трлн даже для США рискованно. Только это сейчас держит курс. Иначе было бы уже и 200, и 250.
  • Fedorov
    Fedorov April 22 2020 11: 57 New
    +4
    But somehow I don’t care, I keep in 3-liter jars, I transfer it to gold .. and I wanted to spit on Gref and Kudrin. hi
    1. Fedorov
      Fedorov April 22 2020 12: 12 New
      +3
      Хотя с Кудриным у ВВП какая-то странная "любовь, то увольняет, то назначает..
      1. Svarog
        Svarog April 22 2020 21: 28 New
        -1
        Quote: Fedorov
        Хотя с Кудриным у ВВП какая-то странная "любовь, то увольняет, то назначает..

        Love is evil .. love and ..
    2. DEDPIHTO
      DEDPIHTO April 22 2020 20: 27 New
      +2
      Quote: Fedorov
      But somehow I don’t care, I keep in 3-liter jars, I transfer it to gold .. and I wanted to spit on Gref and Kudrin. hi

      And then where is the gold? what To buy scrap at the price of shag? request
    3. bk0010
      bk0010 April 24 2020 00: 02 New
      0
      How to translate into gold? What kind of gold? Share, please, really interesting.
  • Atlant-1164
    Atlant-1164 April 22 2020 12: 05 New
    13
    помоги нам всемогущий Короновирус избавиться от этих "наростов".. на теле моей Родины!!
  • Ferdinant
    Ferdinant April 22 2020 12: 05 New
    +4
    The government apparently believes that the people in the face of their homeland are in eternal debt.
  • meandr51
    meandr51 April 22 2020 12: 06 New
    +2
    Roosevelt did just that in the United States during the Great Depression. All gold and currency were confiscated.
    1. Errr
      Errr April 22 2020 18: 46 New
      +1
      Quote: meandr51
      Roosevelt did just that in the United States during the Great Depression. All gold and currency were confiscated.
      In presidential decree No. 6102 of April 5, 1933, it was a ban on the secret accumulation of exclusively gold coins, gold bullion and gold certificates (http://coinhobby.ru/ukaz-6102/). О конфискации какой-либо валюты там и речи не было. Последнюю в 20-е - 30-е годы прошлого века усиленно собирали с "несознательных" граждан СССР чекисты. Рузвельт в этом участия не принимал. smile
  • Engineer
    Engineer April 22 2020 12: 22 New
    +4
    keep your funds in rubles and in foreign currency, both in banks and in cash.

    Only in currency, only in cash. For 12 years of storage of savings, not a single failure.
    Rubles should only accumulate during an acute crisis as it is now. As soon as the rate stabilizes, march to the bank for worthless cut green paper. Euro is possible, but it’s better not to get involved in it much.
  • Undecim
    Undecim April 22 2020 12: 23 New
    +4
    Он подчеркнул, что Кудрин явно не то имел в виду, "да и изъять сбережения у граждан невозможно".
    Since when has the withdrawal of savings from citizens become impossible? What are the obstacles to this? Has the paragraph been amended in the Constitution?
  • smphantom
    smphantom April 22 2020 12: 38 New
    0
    ..."Как всегда, больше всего беспокоятся именно небогатые россияне..."
    As always, it is the RICH Russians who are most worried, because they HAVE something to lose! laughing
  • bukhach
    bukhach April 22 2020 12: 39 New
    -5
    Надо же,не подозревал как много у нас,судя по комментариям,зажиточных людей,и откуда,казалось бы,при правлении антинародного режима,когда основная масса "простого"народа живёт от получки до получки.Чего ему,горемычному ,слова Кудрина?Сочувствую состоятельным,столько проблем от больших денег-не позавидуешь.Крепись средний класс,борись,не сдавайся!
    1. bukhach
      bukhach April 24 2020 05: 02 New
      0
      Why, daddies!? I’m mine, bourgeois! I also don’t know what to take — gold, diamonds, and currency — so that they save my hard-earned money! sad
  • New Year day
    New Year day April 22 2020 12: 53 New
    +7
    If you started talking about it, then sooner or later they will do it. You cannot believe these gentlemen
  • CommanderDIVA
    CommanderDIVA April 22 2020 13: 14 New
    +3
    The abyss between those in power and the people is wider and deeper, while at the same time the destructive actions of state power bodies in the regions and other municipalities sometimes embitter the people, the mediocre personnel policy of our government regarding the governor corps and representatives of federal executive authorities in the regions is striking , especially in the sphere of social programs and medicine, I would personally speak with each candidate for governors on the spot of GDP
    1. OLEG_ZOTOV
      OLEG_ZOTOV April 22 2020 13: 55 New
      +5
      striking talentless personnel policy of our government regarding the governor’s corps

      I would have personally interviewed each candidate for governor in place of GDP


      Why should Putin talk with his former guards, whom he has known for ten years?

    2. Sergej1972
      Sergej1972 April 22 2020 23: 34 New
      0
      The sphere of social and medicine (except for large interregional centers) is run by regions. Federal structures in the regions include structures of Rospotrebnadzor and Roszdravnadzor.
    3. Revival
      Revival April 23 2020 18: 38 New
      -1
      So he is talking
  • Litvinov
    Litvinov April 22 2020 14: 09 New
    +4
    "Позже к оправданиям Кудрина подключился глава Сбербанка РФ Герман Греф. Он подчеркнул, что Кудрин явно не то имел в виду, "да и изъять сбережения у граждан невозможно". Греф заверил, что Сбербанк – самое надежное место для хранения денег. Но сомнения у граждан уже появились. "

    Как это "невозможно изъять"? Очень даже возможно! Где пенсионные накопления? Где средства от продажи ресурсов?
    One Gauleiter erupted, others rushed to dismantle him hastily. As a citizen, I have no doubt! Will be taken! Right!
  • veritas
    veritas April 22 2020 14: 29 New
    +7
    Kudrin behaves strangely, however, like his cartridge. One gets the feeling that they want to get rid of the deposits of the population in banks.
    1. Alf
      Alf April 22 2020 19: 36 New
      +2
      Quote: veritas
      One gets the feeling that they want to get rid of the deposits of the population in banks.

      They would love to get rid of the population, but the Russian people are genetically very tenacious.
      1. veritas
        veritas April 22 2020 20: 30 New
        +3
        Quote: Alf
        They would love to get rid of the population, but the Russian people are genetically very tenacious.

        But we must admit that judging by the demographics, they still have successes.
        1. Alf
          Alf April 22 2020 20: 32 New
          +2
          Quote: veritas
          Quote: Alf
          They would love to get rid of the population, but the Russian people are genetically very tenacious.

          But we must admit that judging by the demographics, they still have successes.

          This is not much of what they succeeded in, although not, the Great Patriotic War is to blame for the failure of demography.
          1. veritas
            veritas April 22 2020 20: 35 New
            +6
            Quote: Alf
            This is not much of what they succeeded in, although not, the Great Patriotic War is to blame for the failure of demography.

            Yes, it’s already there, Ivan the Terrible is to blame for the fact that a curiously guilty person is quickly appointed, but for some reason, everyone is looking for them in the past. But there would be no look around, but in the mirror.
            1. Alf
              Alf April 22 2020 20: 41 New
              +2
              Quote: veritas
              And there wouldn’t be around to see

              Why watch something, only friends are around.
              1. veritas
                veritas April 22 2020 20: 48 New
                +5
                Quote: Alf
                Quote: veritas
                And there wouldn’t be around to see

                Why watch something, only friends are around.

                Mutual responsibility. These friends would be for a causal place, but to the museum.
                1. Alf
                  Alf April 22 2020 20: 59 New
                  +2
                  Quote: veritas
                  Quote: Alf
                  Quote: veritas
                  And there wouldn’t be around to see

                  Why watch something, only friends are around.

                  Mutual responsibility. These friends would be for a causal place, but to the museum.

                  "Ваших бы друзей, да в наш музей"-реклама кунсткамеры.
      2. Campanella
        Campanella April 23 2020 23: 04 New
        +2
        Ошибаетесь,им конечно все не нужны Но как они без рабов? В 90е ещё хохма ходила "Мне для счастья нужно пару рабов"
        In connection with inflation, the number of slaves should be greater, and even the president and others millions.
  • Bomb
    Bomb April 22 2020 14: 37 New
    +6
    OPG it in Africa OPG ...... as they already got everyone!
  • qobnvmog
    qobnvmog April 22 2020 15: 10 New
    +5
    Ну, давеча как Греф заявил, что "нет инструментов" раздать населению деньги, как это делает США.
    Судя по словам Кудрина взять у населения деньги "инструменты" есть. Похоже это единственные "инструменты" которые когда либо были у правителей России.
  • Semen Sychev
    Semen Sychev April 22 2020 15: 15 New
    -10
    What kind of liberoid alarmist moods? The state knows better than us. He will not allow any grefs to seize folk money
    1. Freemason Mason
      Freemason Mason April 22 2020 15: 24 New
      14
      Зря Вы написали "ОН" с большой буквы, это позорное ботоксное чучело уже как несколько лет лишилось последних остатков уважения со стороны здравомыслящей части населения России
      1. Greenwood
        Greenwood April 22 2020 16: 11 New
        +9
        Right now, putinoids will come running and explain to you in a popular way how they love and respect him and want to leave the reign for a couple of terms. lol
      2. Semen Sychev
        Semen Sychev April 22 2020 16: 13 New
        -1
        Quote: Freemason
        for several years now

        Why so? His policy has not changed one iota. How so? Did his successive actions finally reach those who elevated him to Olympus all his 20 years of rule?
    2. strelokmira
      strelokmira April 22 2020 16: 08 New
      -1
      Of course, just as he had paid off the state’s debts to the population over 20 years wink
    3. Revival
      Revival April 23 2020 18: 40 New
      -1
      Did they come out of a coma or did the temperature jump to 47?
    4. Varyag71
      Varyag71 April 24 2020 07: 53 New
      -1
      but you are fabulous
  • Krasnodar
    Krasnodar April 22 2020 17: 32 New
    +2
    Clever man Kudrin - raised a panic so that the money lying dead weight flowed into the consumption chain laughing
    1. DEDPIHTO
      DEDPIHTO April 22 2020 20: 09 New
      +3
      Pulling money out of the bank does not mean at all .. hmm .. consumption. tongue Especially if it's money and not confusing candy wrappers. winked
      1. Krasnodar
        Krasnodar April 22 2020 20: 56 New
        0
        Очень малое число людей способно держать деньги "под матрасом", ничего не тратя. Поэтому банковские депозиты для большинства являются некой психологической иллюзией делания денег из ничего - денежки лежат, проценты тикают. На западе с этим разобрались снижением процентной ставки (в итоге - подорожание жилья laughingbecause it became more profitable to invest in real estate), here - Kudrin hinted and went
    2. Engineer
      Engineer April 22 2020 21: 36 New
      +2
      raised a panic so that the money lying dead weight joined the consumption chain

      On the contrary, bank deposits either work actively (I hope that banks invest for you is not new) or ensure the stability of the bank - an irreducible stock of monetary assets that contributes to its stability, positively affecting the stability of the economy
      But when citizens take deposits, they will not make any purchases in bulk. For Keynes also noted that during a crisis, people tend to accumulate. They will put off waiting for even worse days. As a result, a vicious circle - the population withdraws money for storage - the decline in consumption - the decline in business activity - the intensification of the crisis - we save even more money
      This is almost the worst thing you can do in this situation.
      1. Krasnodar
        Krasnodar April 22 2020 21: 45 New
        -2
        laughing
        Western experience has shown another
        1. Engineer
          Engineer April 22 2020 21: 48 New
          0
          Here, the key to understanding is context. And such a context is a crisis. At other times, options would be possible.
          1. Krasnodar
            Krasnodar April 22 2020 21: 56 New
            0
            As far as I remember - the economic crisis began at zero in Israel - the specialist lowered the interest rate for the unprofitability of storing money in banks. Investors began to buy apartments - more profitable. The boom of construction and everything around it began. The crisis has been overcome.
            1. Engineer
              Engineer April 22 2020 22: 08 New
              +1
              Economics economy is different. In Russia, the average size of deposits is too small to acquire real estate. Second, during the crisis period, we collapse Housing prices - it is clearly visible from the statistics on cyan for 2014-2015. That is, in our conditions this is a bad investment. Third, 15 years have passed since the beginning of the XNUMXs; the new generation prefers rented housing for a number of reasons. This is a global trend.
              What to spend a conditional contribution of 500 thousand in Russian conditions? Food and medicine? So this is an inelastic product. Therefore, everything will go into small capsules further worsening the situation.
              1. Krasnodar
                Krasnodar April 22 2020 22: 25 New
                -1
                In 2014-15, prices froze - then went up interest by 30. The hut, which I bargained for in Krasnodar for 7 in the 15th, now costs 10 - if you quickly throw it off. If you wait - from 12 to 14.
                For instance. What I was offered in 2015 at the Khamovnichesky Val in Moscow for 14 now costs 18-20.
                Etc.
                Statistics of Cyan is a fairly objective thing - but by chance I'm in the subject.
                A conditional contribution to 500 thousand can now only be eaten - right. But she won’t go to the pods - she will go to the maintenance of pre-crisis consumption in 70% of the withdrawn deposits.
                1. Engineer
                  Engineer April 22 2020 22: 41 New
                  +1
                  Here are the statistics for Moscow

                  https://www.irn.ru/gd/?class=all&type=1&period=0&grnum=1&currency=0&select=period
                  Prices are not froze- they just fell. At the same time, a return to the 2014 indicators did not occur until now.
                  About the egg capsule or not. The crisis psychology described by me is what old Keynes got the Nobel for. When the situation is felt as extreme, people cease to maintain the level of pre-crisis consumption.
                  1. Krasnodar
                    Krasnodar April 23 2020 01: 06 New
                    0
                    Cost - once again, depending on where in Moscow
                    Pre-crisis consumption of the bulk of the loaned population and deposit holders - i.e. The secured public varies.
                    Someone does not buy another new Ipone, someone is reviewing the diet.
                    Someone takes a simple gelding instead of AMG, someone puts off buying a car
                    Someone rents an apartment and drives out to a cheaper varic
                    Someone takes out deposits and buys a bunch of apartments in a zero cycle from a reliable developer
  • Voltsky
    Voltsky April 23 2020 10: 28 New
    +1
    What will happen to the contributions of the Russians, why were everyone afraid of Kudrin's words?


    because the bulk of the biomass is a little debility
  • Pavel57
    Pavel57 April 23 2020 12: 05 New
    -1
    Any state in wants to solve its problems and addresses the hoof of its predecessors. And in the USSR, the withdrawal of money under various pretexts and different mechanisms was a regular occurrence. And in the post-Soviet period, we remember that there is already a reflex, like Pavlov’s dog.)))
  • Dzafdet
    Dzafdet April 23 2020 15: 28 New
    0
    I was in St. Petersburg for courses at the end of the 90th year. There, long before the Pavlovian reform on the radio market, businessmen exchanged 50 rubles for 25. I also looked and thought: what is the trick? And I understood only when I heard about reform. But what the Jews are now thinking up is a question ...
  • Dzafdet
    Dzafdet April 23 2020 15: 37 New
    +2
    For a long time, our government building was not shot from tanks. At the same time, the State Duma and the Federation Council should be combed ...
  • KJIETyc
    KJIETyc April 23 2020 16: 55 New
    0
    Quote: Tatiana
    Quote: Polite Moose
    Quote: Golovan Jack
    Suppose I’m a computer master ... or a plumber, or just doing repairs.

    Если такая "цифровизация населения" произойдет, то половина России в черный нал уйдет. Может даже и в валютный. Доходы граждане будут показывать минимальные. И налоги с них платить так же по-минимуму. Мы это все уже проходили.

    В том-то и дело, что следующим шагом в ЦИФРОВИХАЦИИ финансовой системы финансовые капиталисты - банкиры, "хозяева денег" - мечтают completely cancel the cash.
    In other words, bankers want to own the world and manage entire countries with the help of virtual money from citizens on bank cards.

    I just did not develop this topic.

    и что ? Ты когда с алика по безналу заказываешь очередные трусы не сильно переживаешь за то, что тобой "владеет хозяин денег".
  • Campanella
    Campanella April 23 2020 21: 36 New
    0
    Everything that soars in the minds of this power breaks out sooner or later.
    Kudrin blurted out in the simplicity of his soul, but even without that we know what our anti-people’s government is capable of.
    So if there is no money left in the state, there is no doubt that they will get into our pocket. I would understand this if the government really tried for the people ... But you see the hedgehog who needs to live well in Russia!
  • naburkin
    naburkin April 23 2020 22: 11 New
    0
    Quote: mordvin xnumx
    Quote: Malyuta
    no money but you hold on

    The ax cries for this freak. My dad died yesterday, but I can’t remove the stash. The buggers are ATM.

    Please accept my sincere condolences.
    And you have to bury the banking reptiles alive for this, under the video.
  • pristav
    pristav April 23 2020 23: 22 New
    0
    What is the average salary in Russia 2020 https://wpristav.ru/dir/0-0-1-33-20

  • ZAV69
    ZAV69 April 23 2020 23: 30 New
    0
    And what is actually all so excited? The fact that this was spoken by the liberalist Kudrin?
    So he did not say anything new, this is written in any textbook of economics. The bank attracts money at a small percentage. These are passive accounts in the bank balance sheet. Then he gives this money out with loans at a large percentage, invests in stocks, buys and sells currency. These are active accounts. This lives. Bonds of a public debt banks bought all life sold. In 2008 they bought and sold T-bills. Which banks were very keen on it, they burnt out. Remembering everything SBS-Agro?
    So why are you guys so excited then?