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Oil is becoming increasingly difficult to call "black gold"

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After yesterday’s crushing collapse in oil prices, which has become regular for a short time, the word “black” can be applied to various days of the week: “black Tuesday”, “black Wednesday”, etc. The crisis in the oil market, which they are now trying to explain with the coronavirus pandemic, is turning into a protracted phenomenon, with no-one making forecasts on the completion dates.


At 6:00 Moscow time, the price of Brent crude oil was $ 18,4 per barrel. Against this background, the WTI and Urals brands are trading at extremely low levels, which on some days even go through zero.

The OPEC + deal, which was presented as “successful” and which was supposed to remove the problem of overstocking oil storage facilities, did not solve the problem in the end. Many oil companies are announcing that storage capabilities are already at their limit. This leads either to the need to literally get rid of oil at bargain prices, or to abandon production on previous conditions.

In this situation, they see for themselves the advantages of the country, which are oil importers. But there is a nuance here. It would seem that they should “contribute” to the increase in oil demand. But so far nothing of the kind is happening. The global economy and turbulence in industry continue to fall, too.

Our country, due to “garbage” oil prices, receives less than billions of rubles in the form of tax revenues from the activities of oil companies. At the same time, some experts believe that only speculation in the oil market is to blame for everything.

In any case, the situation is such that it is hardly possible to call oil “black gold” today. At least it’s difficult - based on both its price and demand.
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  1. DEDPIHTO
    DEDPIHTO April 22 2020 06: 39 New
    30
    . At the same time, some experts believe that only speculation in the oil market is to blame for everything.
    Already the Kremlin is blaming the speculators with might and main, forgetting about their own “breakthrough” laughing Such naive Kremlin rulers, they did not know that in market economies, speculators are its integral part. wassat
    1. Zhan
      Zhan April 22 2020 06: 45 New
      14
      Quote: DEPHIHTO
      . At the same time, some experts believe that only speculation in the oil market is to blame for everything.
      The Kremlin is already blaming the speculators with all their might, forgetting about their own “breakthrough” laughing Such naive Kremlin rulers, they did not know that in market economies, speculators are its integral part. wassat

      What are you talking about! These dreamers have replaced the word speculation with the very convenient word "Business" ... smile
      1. kjhg
        kjhg April 22 2020 07: 13 New
        30
        It's time to remember the words of Volodin: not oil and gas is our advantage. Our advantage is Putin. Moreover, of course, he modestly kept silent that, in addition to Putin, he also meant the oligarchs with their court servants from United Russia, including himself beloved. So maybe it's time to sell Putin and all his gang instead of oil and gas? It is time, it seems to me, since they are a national treasure. Who has any suggestions?
        1. Pereira
          Pereira April 22 2020 07: 15 New
          21
          Yes, as long as Volodin has Putin, he has an undeniable advantage.
          1. knn54
            knn54 April 22 2020 09: 16 New
            +3
            Greta Tunberg is to blame.
            1. Pereira
              Pereira April 22 2020 10: 38 New
              +3
              Everyone thought that Greta was stupid. Nothing like this. She quickly reported that she had become infected with a coronovirus and was no longer flashing. And in her absence, the civilized world has already appointed the guilty.
        2. The comment was deleted.
          1. OLEG_ZOTOV
            OLEG_ZOTOV April 22 2020 09: 51 New
            +1
            Quote: Malyuta
            Comrade, for these thimbles no one will give a penny, after all, it's like selling a bubonic plague.


            The patriots have failed. For twenty years in a row they were eager to fight and were ready to sacrifice themselves in the construction of Great Russia. But when their hour came and the Nautical Leader found the right angle of attack for Amirek and her sixes, where it hurts, the patriots gave the back and pretended to be rags. And it was they who bet the first signs of a decline in their own level of comfort in the face of peaceful confrontation. Imagine how the National Leader felt, who had previously enjoyed wide popular support, it’s like collectively hammering the arrow and finding out that he came there alone. The patriots demanded war, and when the smell of fried was smelled, they did not show up at the recruiting station. And these people swore to go to the front. As a result, the patriot turned out to be a cowardly opportunist. These fighting "patriots" at a difficult moment for the country did not even deign to spend an extra 15 minutes at the machine. And they still remember Stalingrad, it's amazing how the Veterans don't spit in their hypocritical hari. Naturally, such a people did not receive help from the National Leader, whom the people essentially betrayed and abandoned, leaving their support in the form of posts on the forums. Now reap the fruits of your puny nature.
            1. Pereira
              Pereira April 22 2020 10: 36 New
              +6
              What is it about and about?
              1. Malyuta
                Malyuta April 22 2020 10: 38 New
                +9
                Quote: Pereira
                What is it about and about?

                These are subconscious games. wassat
                1. Pereira
                  Pereira April 22 2020 10: 42 New
                  +4
                  I believe that he learned about mobilization at the OBS news agency, came to the military registration and enlistment office, and he was locked on his stick, and the military commissar self-isolated in the tank.
                  1. Malyuta
                    Malyuta April 22 2020 10: 49 New
                    +7
                    Quote: Pereira
                    I believe that he learned about mobilization at the OBS news agency, came to the military registration and enlistment office, and he was locked on his stick, and the military commissar self-isolated in the tank.

                    district committee closed, everyone went to the front.
        3. aybolyt678
          aybolyt678 April 22 2020 09: 23 New
          +5
          Quote: kjhg
          not oil and gas is our advantage. Our advantage is Putin.

          this advantage considers separately foreign from domestic policy. But the quartermaster won the war.
          It is a pity that people are not considered an advantage. They did not create conditions for self-realization for them.
        4. Jura 27
          Jura 27 April 22 2020 11: 37 New
          +1
          [/ quote] Who has any suggestions? [quote]

          We don’t have enough money to pay extra for transferring them over a hill. And cheaply they won’t take them.
    2. Zhan
      Zhan April 22 2020 07: 02 New
      +3

      Here is an interesting analysis of what happened ..
    3. Altona
      Altona April 22 2020 08: 13 New
      +9
      Quote: DEPHIHTO
      Already the Kremlin is blaming the speculators with might and main, forgetting about their own “breakthrough”

      -------------------------
      Reset to zero, so full. In general, it was stupid to play in the oil casino, our "lucky" tsar came out of it in his underpants, "energy" king. laughing
      1. DEDPIHTO
        DEDPIHTO April 22 2020 08: 18 New
        17
        laughing This grandmaster only play checkers, giveaways. My only concern is that all the people will have to take off this igloo’s clothes,
        1. spirit
          spirit April 22 2020 10: 11 New
          +7
          This is all multi-path:
          Now we’ll find the bottom and bounced back to the hundredth, probably the Grandmaster thinks so laughing
          1. alone
            alone April 22 2020 11: 36 New
            +6
            "Putin has taken up the problems in the oil market," said Peskov .. fellow

            Oil went negative belay Maybe this is the problem? recourse
      2. Sergey Nemov
        Sergey Nemov April 22 2020 08: 55 New
        14
        Quote: Altona
        our "lucky" king came out of him in only his underpants, an "energy" king.

        The king was naked, only many did not want to see this.
    4. Malyuta
      Malyuta April 22 2020 08: 18 New
      11
      Quote: DEPHIHTO
      Such naive Kremlin rulers, they did not know that in market economies speculators are an integral part of it

      Speculators are their political creed, and in this context it is an excuse for their own stupidity and greed.
      1. alexmach
        alexmach April 22 2020 09: 11 New
        +1
        and in this context it is an excuse for one's own stupidity and greed.

        Yes, no, also not a fact. What could they do to avoid this fall? Obviously, oil demand fell for objective reasons. It was not possible to keep it and the oil price at the previous production volumes. Well, think about it, got excited with these OPEC and the SA, well, got excited a bit, corrected for a month. Well, the markets reacted nervously, so what? then it was nervous, and now they are quietly falling for themselves for objective reasons.
        Until the real sector "digests" the accumulated surpluses, the price will not go up, and this is not a quick matter. Do not wait until the end of the year.

        And the fact that the whole economy is only tied to oil .. well, this is a problem from the Soviet era only aggravated in Russia.
        1. Pacifist with AK
          Pacifist with AK April 22 2020 17: 25 New
          +1
          Thank you, Alexander, for the calm, reasoned, understandable comment!
          -------------------------------------------------- -------------------------------------------------- ---------
          Quietly, neurotics with tantrums will now fly)))))))))) ......
    5. den3080
      den3080 April 22 2020 08: 43 New
      +1
      1. As soon as a goat climbed into the garden this was to be expected.
      "Goat" - the United States, "climbed into the garden" - began to supply oil for export.
      Obama lifted embargo on free US oil exports And away we go ... over the bumps.
      The embargo existed for 40 years, since 1975, from the time of the first oil crisis, when the Arabs introduced their embargo on oil supplies to Western countries (in 1973), in connection with the conflict in the Middle East.
      A strategic product for many countries, and the economy of dozens of countries is based on the revenue from sales of this particular product; this is literally the cornerstone for all OPEC and +++++ members.
      The lifting of the embargo on US oil exports and, as a consequence, the inevitable crisis of overproduction is the first act of the Marlezon ballet.
      After that, it remained to give acceleration to the broken “boulder”.

      2. The second act of the “Marleson ballet” we are observing now.
      The perfect picture is not a very scary virus. With a slight mortality, but panic is global. The Boulder rushed from the mountain, dragging the rest.

      More than 17 million people die from cardiovascular diseases every year in the world. Compare with the results of the "work" of the coronavirus, with the numbers that are broadcast from each iron. Think about it.

      3. Take away and redo everything, preferably without a "hot" war.
      The guys play for a long time. And this is not Trump / Obama or C, and certainly not GDP. The aforementioned leaders - like frogs on the preparation table, brought an electric discharge to the foot - the foot twitched.

      Who are the “guys”? I think that there are only a few of them. The notorious Rothschilds, the Rockefellers, quite possibly the British royal family.
      2-3 family clans, with a family and business history of several centuries.

      This is not a conspiracy of terrible villains who, in super-secret meetings, think about how to plague mankind and giggle viciously at a secret refuge.
      These are quite normal, decent, virtuous and educated people, even philanthropists are quite imagined.
      But they managed to be at the top of the "food chain" for hundreds of years ... monarchies, revolutions, colonial empires, world wars, a parade of independence and more.
      And they know how to adapt better than anyone. Moreover, from some time they adapt (shape) this world for themselves. The goal is to stay at the top of the food chain for as long as possible.

      The rest are material and tools, or simply “food”.
      And nothing personal, as they say. It is just business and just life.
      Something like that.
      1. Snail N9
        Snail N9 April 22 2020 08: 53 New
        +5
        Who are the “guys”? I think that there are only a few of them. The notorious Rothschilds, the Rockefellers, quite possibly the British royal family.
        2-3 family clans, with a family and business history of several centuries.

        Clan family Baruch ..... wink
        I remember that I was just shocked by the film "The Last Judgment" with Christopher Lambert in the title role.
        1. Sergey Nemov
          Sergey Nemov April 22 2020 09: 05 New
          +7
          Quote: Snail N9
          I remember that I was just shocked by the film "The Last Judgment" with Christopher Lambert in the title role.

          There are many film variations on this conspiracy theological theme.
          Of course, there is something in this, but only the class approach and the class struggle can be opposed to them.
          1. aybolyt678
            aybolyt678 April 22 2020 13: 51 New
            +3
            Quote: Sergey Nemov
            but they can only be opposed with the class approach and the class struggle.

            There is a problem with classes .. people are amazingly easy to fly from class to class. Also, the problem of class organization sad If all offended were workers! otherwise all self-employed consumers sad lol sad
        2. den3080
          den3080 April 22 2020 09: 52 New
          0
          Quote: Snail N9
          Who are the “guys”? I think that there are only a few of them. The notorious Rothschilds, the Rockefellers, quite possibly the British royal family.
          2-3 family clans, with a family and business history of several centuries.

          Clan family Baruch ..... wink
          I remember that I was just shocked by the film "The Last Judgment" with Christopher Lambert in the title role.

          I only watch news on TV and popular science channels, so I don’t know which baruch-marukh :)
          but the sharing is already in full swing :) and this does not happen spontaneously (tugging and reflection of the authorities of various countries - it doesn’t count, this is just the background).
      2. awdrgy
        awdrgy April 22 2020 12: 24 New
        +2
        So if their "that" then everything will be "ok"?
      3. Wolf
        Wolf April 22 2020 12: 30 New
        +2
        You are completely right, the coronavirus is part of this game, and the quarantine measure does not meet the needs
  2. Mitroha
    Mitroha April 22 2020 06: 40 New
    0
    "Everything will pass, this will also pass"
    © Ring of King Solomon. wink

    Oil, and without any pandemics, was $ 20, nothing, then it rose to 100+. And after this "hole" there will be a rise
    1. Volodin
      Volodin April 22 2020 07: 09 New
      13
      Quote: Mitroha
      Oil, and without any pandemics, was $ 20, nothing, then it rose to 100+. And after this "hole" there will be a rise

      The rise will certainly, sooner or later, be. The only problem is that not all countries were able to survive 10-20 oil earlier.

      I would like to believe that this time we will do without stepping on the previous rake.
      1. Snail N9
        Snail N9 April 22 2020 08: 49 New
        11
        "Everything will pass, this will also pass"
        © Ring of King Solomon. wink

        Yeah .... "everything will pass" .... "everything is vanity" .... "What will, what bondage is all the same ...."


        wink
      2. Altona
        Altona April 22 2020 09: 19 New
        +4
        Quote: Volodin
        The only problem is that not all countries were able to survive 10-20 oil earlier.

        ------------------------
        While you wait, the country will fall apart. I say again that Central Russia and the Volga region have always lived by their own labor, through the industrial industry, which is now successfully collapsed. With the weakening of the ruble, the former "luxury" in the form of imports will become unavailable. Who will feed the people and what? Should we sit and wait for the royal favors? They will not be, and this will be announced. Another thing is that the ruble is holding up slightly, because the dollar is also falling, having lost its oil backing.
  3. apro
    apro April 22 2020 06: 40 New
    +4
    Oil goods. And with the goods you can make various manipulations ... and certain individuals are actively engaged in this. It’s not at a loss for yourself. And for the rest, all the charms of the capital market. With its falls and ups. .and losses.
    1. Mikhail m
      Mikhail m April 22 2020 12: 14 New
      +4
      Money is also a commodity. And people have become new oil.
  4. Ryaruav
    Ryaruav April 22 2020 06: 42 New
    14
    So the check came in on the Chubais and Gaidar economies, as it were, the invisible hand of the market, but at the top they have stability, even with the collapse of the economy, none of them will resign and, as usual, will not answer for anything
    1. Uncle lee
      Uncle lee April 22 2020 07: 13 New
      +7
      Quote: Ryaruav
      will not resign

      And who said that we are a powerful energy power?
    2. Mitroha
      Mitroha April 22 2020 07: 16 New
      +3
      Quote: Ryaruav
      So the check came in on the Chubais and Gaidar economies, as it were, the invisible hand of the market, but at the top they have stability, even with the collapse of the economy, none of them will resign and, as usual, will not answer for anything

      Do you save commas or what? This disrespect for the interlocutors is difficult for perception.
      1. Pereira
        Pereira April 22 2020 07: 22 New
        0
        this is a monstrous lack of commas nullifies the whole point of the post
        1. Mitroha
          Mitroha April 22 2020 07: 27 New
          +1
          Quote: Pereira
          this is a monstrous lack of commas nullifies the whole point of the post

          Yes.
          Execute can not be pardoned
    3. Sergey Nemov
      Sergey Nemov April 22 2020 09: 07 New
      +2
      Quote: Ryaruav
      So the check came in on the Chubais and Gaidar economies, as it were, the invisible hand of the market, but at the top they have stability, even with the collapse of the economy, none of them will resign and, as usual, will not answer for anything

      This is a test of Helicism-Putinism, which will be the last nail in their tombstone.
  5. ninguem
    ninguem April 22 2020 06: 42 New
    +7
    The OPEC + deal, which was presented as “successful” and which was supposed to remove the problem of overstocking of oil storage facilities, did not solve the problem in the end.

    I think the problem is not in the deal itself, but in those who prepared the deal, namely in their non-professionalism
  6. regdan
    regdan April 22 2020 06: 46 New
    15
    And the grandmaster turned out to be fake ... he’s not in politics to be, but playing in the sandbox ..
    1. Sergey Nemov
      Sergey Nemov April 22 2020 09: 09 New
      +6
      Quote: regdan
      And the grandmaster turned out to be fake ... he’s not in politics to be, but playing in the sandbox ..

      The stump was initially rotten with multiple wormholes.
  7. Pessimist22
    Pessimist22 April 22 2020 06: 48 New
    +4
    Why be surprised? The economy has gone negative, supply exceeds demand.
    1. Range
      Range April 22 2020 07: 34 New
      +3
      What country is it now rushing to plus?
  8. krops777
    krops777 April 22 2020 06: 49 New
    +5
    The OPEC + deal, which was presented as “successful” and which was supposed to remove the problem of overstocking of oil storage facilities, did not solve the problem in the end.


    Only the not-too-long magazine wrote about the successful deal (God forgive me) for anyone who even reads not a lot of the yellow press, and so it is clear that reducing production by the volumes agreed upon during the crisis will not solve the problem.
    1. rocket757
      rocket757 April 22 2020 07: 03 New
      +3
      "clients" themselves are not happy to get lost, but they were lost, for reasons not dependent on them.
      The crisis is ripe .... some time ago.
      Why it started now .... the time has come.
      1. Range
        Range April 22 2020 07: 41 New
        +1
        The crisis has long been going by leaps and bounds. Only he had to grow up to become noticeable and now the time has come. The northern fluffy animal has quietly crept up to the world economy. But the funniest thing is that almost everyone in the world is now talking about Socialism, i.e. about the planned economy. What is it for? Wrong "gnarled" virus brainwashed the world's "teachers" ...
        1. UserGun
          UserGun April 22 2020 07: 51 New
          +4
          Quote: Spectrum
          But the funny thing is that in the world now almost everyone is talking about Socialism, i.e. about a planned economy. What is it for?


          Yes, no one talks about her, except you. An example of your socialism in sight: Venezuela, North Korea and Cuba. Awesome role model and envy! )))
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            1. UserGun
              UserGun April 22 2020 08: 45 New
              -3
              Well, at least give an example))) Who, in their right mind, began to introduce the State Planning Commission into their state structures, simply falling)))
              1. Range
                Range April 22 2020 09: 24 New
                +1
                Did the coronovirus affect you and don’t see the difference between talking and introducing? There is no smoke without fire.
                1. UserGun
                  UserGun April 22 2020 09: 34 New
                  -2
                  Yes, no one speaks or even speaks. Well, not that. From the word at all. Is it only in your morning dreams.
              2. Range
                Range April 22 2020 09: 30 New
                +1
                Zadolbali these cheap penguins. Look for a refutation of my comment yourself - you need it, not me. This cheap trick of the sub-penguins, forcing their opponent to make excuses, no longer works. Minuses can be beaten off - that’s all you are good for.
            2. atalef
              atalef April 22 2020 10: 55 New
              -1
              Quote: Spectrum
              Most European countries have already talked about this.

              Give a reference to the original?
              Or take a word?
              1. Range
                Range April 22 2020 14: 59 New
                -1
                There were articles and there was no hunting for them in a new way. A search engine to help you.
                1. atalef
                  atalef April 22 2020 15: 03 New
                  -1
                  Quote: Spectrum
                  There were articles and there was no hunting for them in a new way. A search engine to help you.

                  Clearly merged.
          2. Nyrobsky
            Nyrobsky April 22 2020 09: 14 New
            +6
            Quote: UserGun
            An example of your socialism in sight: Venezuela, North Korea and Cuba. Awesome role model and envy! )))

            But what, China and Vietnam have gotten between your eyes or what? If your favorite mattresses did not put sticks in the wheels of the DPRK and Cuba in the form of sanctions, then they would live an order of magnitude better. At least, both of these countries, in the absence of any significant resources, did not collapse.
            1. UserGun
              UserGun April 22 2020 09: 29 New
              -5
              Well, answer us quickly and decisively. Here "- where exactly:

              Quote: Spectrum
              Most European countries


              And about the cross-eyed, of course, it's funny))) Especially when the Chinese state plan, as in "developed sisialism", sends orders to all cross-eyed OJSC, LLC and individual entrepreneurs, how much and what to do per year)))
            2. atalef
              atalef April 22 2020 15: 35 New
              -1
              Quote: Nyrobsky
              What China

              socialism with billionaires?
              That's interesting.
              Socialism with the ownership of the means of production?
              That's interesting.
              Socialism in China has long been gone.
          3. Rzzz
            Rzzz April 22 2020 19: 01 New
            +1
            Quote: UserGun
            An example of your socialism in sight: Venezuela, North Korea and Cuba. Awesome role model and envy! )

            Actually yes. Countries manage to somehow survive for decades under severe sanctions from all sides
            No "free market" economy would have survived for several months under such conditions.
            1. atalef
              atalef April 22 2020 19: 09 New
              -1
              Quote: rzzz
              Actually yes. Countries manage to somehow survive for decades under severe sanctions from all sides

              Under sanctions?
              Cuba under sanctions only from the United States --- and all. Charles.
              Nobody bothers her with trading with the whole world, planes fly, ships arrive, tourists travel.
              Are these tough sanctions?
              With regard to Venezuela, it is even simpler.
              There, on the part of the United States, some kind of half-ton maybe, Venezuela sells oil to the states.
              Their main problem is the socialism of the Leninist type.
              they have not yet understood, using the example of the USSR and the satellites, that the socialism of the Leninist path is the path to poverty, corruption and hunger.
              hopeless. And no sanctions have anything to do with it.
              Compared to Cuba and Venezuela, Russia is under sanctions ten times heavier.
              1. strannik1985
                strannik1985 April 22 2020 19: 20 New
                0
                Under sanctions?

                Not true. Helms-Burton Act.
                1. atalef
                  atalef April 22 2020 19: 34 New
                  0
                  Quote: strannik1985
                  Helms-Burton Act.

                  wow, what a terrible law.
                  ships traveling in Cuba are prohibited from entering US ports.
                  just a polar beast - what terrible sanctions.
                  1. strannik1985
                    strannik1985 April 22 2020 19: 43 New
                    +1
                    wow what a terrible law

                    The law provides for the prosecution of any non-US company that conducts business with Cuba.
                    1. atalef
                      atalef April 22 2020 19: 48 New
                      0
                      Quote: strannik1985
                      The law provides for the prosecution of any non-US company that conducts business with Cuba.

                      does not provide, but says --- what can be applied.
                      Never taken.
                      1. strannik1985
                        strannik1985 April 22 2020 20: 08 New
                        0
                        Never taken.

                        Lies wink
                        In May 2004, a Swiss bank UBS AG was fined 100 million. In total, 2004 companies, banking institutions, non-governmental organizations were fined in 77, of which 11 were foreign.
              2. Rzzz
                Rzzz April 22 2020 21: 03 New
                0
                So are those sanctions against Russia - window dressing or targeted measures against specific objectionable structures.
            2. UserGun
              UserGun April 22 2020 19: 10 New
              -2
              Quote: rzzz
              Countries manage to somehow survive for decades under severe sanctions from all sides


              Yes, you can live in a dugout))) Yes, and for decades))) Afigitelny argument)))

              Do you also crave for decades to survive ?! ))) The main thing is that sisalism should be !!! )))
        2. rocket757
          rocket757 April 22 2020 07: 57 New
          +2
          The foundations that have been practiced so far do not seem so unshakable ... many people want to have something already tested, reliable.
          Maybe, too, the time has come, maybe just panic and confusion?
          One thing is for sure, the old system will not just give up! She has her supporters, powerful, wealthy, deeply rooted!
          Of course, nothing is eternal .... let's see how it goes.
  9. rocket757
    rocket757 April 22 2020 06: 56 New
    +8
    Maybe the time has come for oil to become just a valuable energy, chemical resource, and not the object of neutralizing an empty printed dough ??? Then she will have a PRICE, and not someone's reckless Wishlist !!!
    Too much around her for a lot of different things; it has long been critical, not normal!
    1. Vita vko
      Vita vko April 22 2020 07: 02 New
      +2
      Now the time is really interesting. Especially for countries seeking economic independence from the US currency, which was 80 - 90% provided by oil futures.
      1. rocket757
        rocket757 April 22 2020 07: 51 New
        +2
        Just refuse a buck, in one, no one can afford! An independent system must be created, while having real associates ....
        Yes, you still need to have something to offer in return.
        Not easy, not fast, dangerous.
        1. UserGun
          UserGun April 22 2020 08: 07 New
          +1
          Quote: rocket757
          Yes, you still need to have something to offer in return.


          Here is just the catch))) But the most interesting thing is that even imagining such a situation that there is no hateful for you and equally pagan dollar, but OTHER CURRENCY will take its place))) And she will not wear "proud" the name of the wooden ruble. And why? And because in return there is nothing to offer, in aggregate, then there is nothing, with all due respect.
          1. rocket757
            rocket757 April 22 2020 08: 35 New
            +1
            Why hate the buck, it's just the currency of a particular country, adopted as an international, universal unit of calculation.
            That’s the attitude to the policy pursued by a particular state, the dollar is the monetary unit, it’s a lot of different things where.
            We have the same variety of opinions, that's all.
            1. UserGun
              UserGun April 22 2020 08: 42 New
              -1
              Well, and what attitude?
              1. rocket757
                rocket757 April 22 2020 08: 51 New
                +1
                US authorities only care about their country. This is obvious, this is understandable, this is logical.
                That's all.
                Like, don't like, it's their business.
                It’s more useful for us to look the other way more often.
                1. UserGun
                  UserGun April 22 2020 09: 06 New
                  +3
                  Hey-hey !!! I will tell you a terrible secret that EVERYTHING! Karl, the authorities MUST take care of their country. What can I say? Well done. How many lards have gone nowhere, our authorities "caring" about other countries ?!
                  1. rocket757
                    rocket757 April 22 2020 09: 10 New
                    +1
                    What is the secret, who looks where he should, he sees. Therefore, I propose not to be distracted by anything THERE, but to carefully look at what is happening HERE.
                    1. UserGun
                      UserGun April 22 2020 09: 17 New
                      +2
                      And this is the secret of a politician to SEE. And not tales of 20 years to tell in duroscopes. And it turns out that he doesn't see a shit, "the leader", but we are paying. HERE.

                      This is exactly the MOST IMPORTANT thing in this gloomy story. Where the whole puzzle was assembled and showed how "our FSE", without which one cannot do for another years, natsat, according to the assurances of not being on friendly terms with the head, is just not far away, in real life, not in a painted one.
      2. pru-pavel
        pru-pavel April 22 2020 08: 09 New
        +2
        Very interesting. They said that the dollar was an unsecured candy wrapper. And now it turned out that he was provided with oil futures. Really interesting time
      3. atalef
        atalef April 22 2020 10: 56 New
        -2
        Quote: Vita VKO
        from the American currency, which was 80 - 90% provided by oil futures

        Why then does it not depreciate?
    2. UserGun
      UserGun April 22 2020 07: 58 New
      +1
      Quote: rocket757
      Then she will have a PRICE, and not someone's reckless Wishlist !!!


      In fact, it has a price. Now few people need it, so its price is minimal. Another thing is that it was precisely the reckless Wishlist of the nullified giant of thoughts of companions who imagined themselves to be cooler than boiled eggs that dropped it sharply))) I look at their antics and eternal "niprich" from the outside and am amazed at their cynicism ...
      1. rocket757
        rocket757 April 22 2020 08: 05 New
        +2
        Everything has a price, just often no one can really explain what it really is.
        No one, alone, can affect the value of such a global resource as oil!
        The totality of circumstances, reckless, or perhaps meaningful, the decision of many.
        Too necessary, globally, raw materials.
        1. UserGun
          UserGun April 22 2020 08: 35 New
          -1
          Quote: rocket757
          No one, alone, can affect the value of such a global resource as oil!


          Well, our light-faced, in a fit of "aspirations for the people", could influence))) Forgetting everything else)))
          1. rocket757
            rocket757 April 22 2020 08: 40 New
            0
            You flatter him!
            The situation had matured before, and received a jolt from a completely different perspective.
            1. UserGun
              UserGun April 22 2020 08: 48 New
              +1
              Yes, it's ripe, it's ripe, but why arrange a clownery like that ?! Others were just waiting for this moment, when "our FSE" will do it in full)))
              1. rocket757
                rocket757 April 22 2020 09: 05 New
                0
                We usually have a subjective opinion based on personal preferences. We are people, not cars, usually do this.
                I, our upper, do not like at all, but ... not, not on the same scale, to be able to arrange a global bedlam.
                They also made their contribution, but without them about the same thing would have happened.
                But in fact, the process has its own development and the end is not yet visible to him.
                We will see the results.
                1. UserGun
                  UserGun April 22 2020 09: 10 New
                  +2
                  Quote: rocket757
                  I, our upper, do not like at all, but ... not, not on the same scale, to be able to arrange a global bedlam.


                  Huh! The fact of the matter is that these figures, who think of themselves as "geopolitics" (according to the already raunchy propaganda), have crumpled themselves to the fullest, in a rather harmless situation. Well, you can say, they were substituted))) You cannot throw out words from the song, as in this story.
                  1. rocket757
                    rocket757 April 22 2020 09: 15 New
                    0
                    Suppose everyone is bad. I figured out who had any surprises, it makes no sense.
                    Subtotals the indicator is very conditional and not final.
                    In general, there is nothing further to discuss, for now.
                    1. UserGun
                      UserGun April 22 2020 09: 32 New
                      0
                      I agree. But the most important thing, everyone already understood that the nullified companions, to put it mildly, are not quite what propaganda is. It was when the roasted cock pecked.
                      1. rocket757
                        rocket757 April 22 2020 10: 13 New
                        0
                        For the sake of objectivity, we are not even preparing, really, to change something. A maximum of grumbling, a minimum of real action.
                        Bedlam in social networks does not count.
                        Everything will go as put on top. Unpromising.
                      2. UserGun
                        UserGun April 22 2020 10: 26 New
                        0
                        Well, do not tell. It hurts everyone. And something needs to be done with this. Not all are complete, and at the same time are street workers)))
                      3. rocket757
                        rocket757 April 22 2020 10: 32 New
                        +1
                        It hurts everyone, but in different ways.
                        Just do not see the real stirring of those who were hurt to the maximum!
                        There is no unity of all, there will be no change.
                        Divide and rule, what else do they need for right now?
                        We are divided.
                      4. UserGun
                        UserGun April 22 2020 10: 35 New
                        -1
                        So just because it all started))) Do not forget about it.
                      5. rocket757
                        rocket757 April 22 2020 10: 39 New
                        0
                        Look. I did not notice anything fundamentally new.
          2. Demon_is_ada
            Demon_is_ada April 22 2020 09: 57 New
            +3
            Quote: UserGun
            The fact of the matter is that these figures, who think of themselves as "geopolitics" (according to the already raunchy propaganda), have crumpled themselves to the fullest, in a rather harmless situation. Well, you can say, they were substituted))) You cannot throw out words from the song, as in this story.

            Yeah ... you can add almost all world leaders to this list hi with the possible exception of the leader of Iran and North Korea ... they generally drum on what’s going on in the world laughing No matter how ironic you are, tight-knit states have won, in the sense of totalitarianism ...
            1. rocket757
              rocket757 April 22 2020 10: 17 New
              0
              Strong states did not lose.
              For someone who clearly won, time to reason. Although there are some prerequisites, we will wait for more obvious results.
  • edeligor
    edeligor April 22 2020 06: 58 New
    10
    Of course, I am a complete teapot in this topic. I know one thing in advance - in the case when the oil and gas kings in the Russian Federation begin to lose their excess profits, they immediately begin to tear us, the population, into three skins. Therefore, instead of low prices at gas stations, there will be some kind of new ambush. That's what they and their lobbyists in the government of the master!
    1. Volodin
      Volodin April 22 2020 07: 12 New
      11
      Quote: edeligor
      oil and gas kings in Russia immediately begin to tear us, the population, into three skins.

      What do you mean "start"? In my opinion, this is observed under any circumstances ...
      1. DMB 75
        DMB 75 April 22 2020 07: 45 New
        +9
        It is. It is an opinion that we are under external control. It is mercilessly tearing three skins, as if from strangers, not from our own citizens.
    2. Snail N9
      Snail N9 April 22 2020 07: 50 New
      12
      Judging by the latest statements that have flown out of the languages ​​of the "responsible persons", it is possible to make a list of what is quite possible, already planned to compensate for the lost income of the "raw material superpower":
      1-introduction of a "digital state" - a unified digital register of citizens and a "digital profile of a citizen", in order to make it convenient to carry out measures to fully control the income and expenses of each citizen. :
      2-raising taxes on movable and immovable property,
      3-introduction of compulsory "insurance" of property, "natural risks" and "health",
      4-part "freezing" and "degreasing" of ruble and foreign currency deposits in banks. With foreign currency deposits, they can do what Mr. Kostin suggested at one time, forcibly converting them into rubles and "partially" freezing them.
      5-introduce automatic taxation of any "income" to an account or a savings credit card.
      6-rise in prices for the services of the "state" - registration, issuance of supporting documents, identity cards, etc.
      7-the introduction of new fines, and an increase in the size of old fines, the expansion of "plato" to all vehicles, continue to transfer roads to private ownership and make them toll (supposedly for their timely repair and maintenance in good condition),
      8 - partially or completely abolish the VAT refund (here it is, personally I am "for" - because this is a source of all kinds of abuse),
      9-registration of all citizens who do not have tax deductions, as "self-employed" with the appropriate taxation,
      10- abolish the concept of minimum wage, wages will be regulated only by the consent of the employee to the conditions of the employer, work only for food is normal,
      11-identification of all rental housing for tax purposes,
      12-taxation of "income" from the sale of things at flea markets such as "Avito" regardless of their initial cost (excluding the fact that it is used and sold at a price below the purchase).
      13-sale of land without restriction and without taking into account citizenship,
      14-admission to the domestic market for natural resources of all comers,
      15- "water is more expensive than oil" and should replace oil - widespread trade in water resources abroad,
      16-expansion of the sale of food abroad (the population will provide for itself in the garden plots, and for those who do not have it, they will buy it, and for those who do not have enough funds, the introduction of a limited distribution of products, the "card system").
      17 and so on.
      1. edeligor
        edeligor April 22 2020 08: 30 New
        -3
        All of these items are nothing more than a detonator in the explosive of our society. One digitization, that is, full control over a citizen, can result in such a social explosion that the operation "pension" will seem like an innocent scratch to the puppeteers.
        1. Snail N9
          Snail N9 April 22 2020 08: 37 New
          +5
          So just now, Mishutka said that it was "digitization" that was the immediate and most important task, which must be completed as soon as possible, and the coronavirus apparently clearly showed it. ... Directly according to the proverb, "Who, about what, and naked, about the bathhouse" .. The publican, he is, the publican. yes
          1. edeligor
            edeligor April 22 2020 09: 00 New
            -1
            So the people, in connection with recent events, have not delved into this topic enough. This is a bomb! You can only be called to the tax office because you made purchases worth more than your income! Slave owners did not dream of such control over slaves! I really hope that the government and the legislators still have sober heads. Otherwise ... scary.
            1. Snail N9
              Snail N9 April 22 2020 09: 03 New
              +3
              "Sober heads", you say? Oh well. Mishutka said and right there, the State Duma on the sly on April 17, passed the law on "digitalization" in the second reading ... wink
            2. your1970
              your1970 April 22 2020 10: 51 New
              -1
              Quote: edeligor
              This is a bomb! You can only be called to the tax office because you made purchases worth more than your income!
              - well, take a close look at the squeals of corruption fighters - this is their favorite mantra: "He spends more than his salary !!!"

              Z.Y. and by the way - how do you spend more than your income? You steal, corrupt, do not pay taxes?
              1. edeligor
                edeligor April 22 2020 15: 57 New
                0
                What does my personality have to do with it? I theorize - a certain machine assigns you a digital code and starts to count where, what, when and how much. For example, I buy in the store and for my parents. What's next? Chip at birth? Judging by the minusers, people are ready for this. If so, then I take away my words about the bomb. My condolences to such citizens, bear it.
      2. Altona
        Altona April 22 2020 09: 41 New
        +1
        Quote: Snail N9
        Judging by the latest statements that have flown out of the languages ​​of the "responsible persons", it is possible to make a list of what is quite possible, already planned to compensate for the lost income of the "raw material superpower":

        ----------------------
        They do not have enough resources to implement such digital arbitrariness. Now there is a cash withdrawal. The USSR was also a cashless economy; this did not help him in any way.
  • samarin1969
    samarin1969 April 22 2020 07: 20 New
    +1
    All forecasts, charts, "strategies" of very expensive shamans from the economy can be thrown into the trash ... How much PR was back in 2013: oil sands, the cost of new fields not lower than $ 70-80, the Shtokman superproject, Brazilian alcohol instead of gasoline and other "prospects ".. Now all these prophecies" met with laughter. "

    Let's see what decision the feudal lords URALS will make. They determine the real policy in the Russian Federation. They can be offered "Oil in exchange for something" ...

    ps Ukraine asked for all the free oil to give it to her.
    1. Moon
      Moon April 22 2020 07: 55 New
      +5
      Quote: samarin1969
      ps Ukraine asked for all the free oil to give it to her.

      wrong
      Offered to lease its capacity to store excess oil (oil storage)
      Now they are in price - the demand for them is great and they are full
      make short money on this
      1. samarin1969
        samarin1969 April 22 2020 08: 10 New
        +2
        Quote: Σελήνη
        wrong
        Offered to lease its capacity to store excess oil (oil storage)

        You're right... hi Ukraine's "freebie" is canceled. laughing True, Mr. Vitrenko specified that Russian oil should not be taken.
  • Svetlana
    Svetlana April 22 2020 07: 20 New
    +4
     Against this background, the WTI and Urals brands are trading at extremely low levels, which on some days even go through zero. 

    It must be understood that physically, oil is not sold for a price below zero. Thus, futures (delivery obligations) held by stockbrokers were sold.
    1. kjhg
      kjhg April 22 2020 07: 40 New
      +5
      Quote: Svetlana
      It must be understood that physically, oil is not sold for a price below zero. Thus, futures (delivery obligations) held by stockbrokers were sold.

      Bye, yes. But who can say that this will not happen in the future? Where will our oil workers put oil when all storage facilities are full? Preservation of wells in our country is a very expensive pleasure, moreover, not rarely leading to the complete loss of this well. Brent is already trading at $ 16 a barrel, and our Urals is below 10. And if there really is a great global depression? So ... At an interesting time we live.
      1. Snail N9
        Snail N9 April 22 2020 08: 09 New
        +3
        And if there really will be a great global depression?

        What, still do not understand that this "great depression of the world scale" has already come? Gee-gee. This is how ours, forgive my God-rulers, have not yet understood this and believe that "everything will resolve by itself" and by the fall the world market will stabilize and oil will "trample" up. Why should we, like, "be afraid" of the market itself "will settle" and these are "temporary difficulties", moreover, "transient". Vaughn, Sechin predicts oil at the end of the year, again at "$ 60" - and we all know that this is a "high-class world-class specialist" (according to GDP) and therefore, he knows better than us how and what, there will be in the future. lol
        1. kjhg
          kjhg April 22 2020 09: 03 New
          -1
          Quote: Snail N9
          What, still do not understand that this "great depression of the world scale" has already come?

          hi Let's be honest, not yet quite set in. The USA, EU and other leading economies of the world are now dumping trillions of dollars, euros and yens into their economies. After some time, this huge money should somehow revive the markets. But much, of course, will depend on when the world leaves global quarantine. Regarding the statements of our leaders, what else remains for them? But they cannot say that for twenty years they sat on a pipe and did nothing. They can only hope for a miracle.
    2. donavi49
      donavi49 April 22 2020 08: 42 New
      +2
      physically, oil is not sold for a price below zero.


      It was just physically that it was sold at -35-50 of the variety, though in the USA. When all outbids began to get rid of papers on the last day. For if you can’t get rid of the papers, then PHYSICAL DELIVERY will occur, which is equal to wild losses for room traders, for 100 barrels.

      The reason for this is that in the USA there are almost no tanks.

      Brent is better so far, but if consumption does not increase or supply does not fall, the situation in the United States is very close. For, too, the entire fund is clogged, the tankers are clogged, even railway tanks are poured into storage wink
    3. atalef
      atalef April 22 2020 11: 03 New
      -1
      Quote: Svetlana
       Against this background, the WTI and Urals brands are trading at extremely low levels, which on some days even go through zero. 

      It must be understood that physically, oil is not sold for a price below zero. Thus, futures (delivery obligations) held by stockbrokers were sold.

      Futures is a supply contract.
      Having bought futures, say a million tons of oil for May, at a negative price (those with a surcharge from the seller), I will receive this oil at a negative price.
      But where I will put it is already my problem.
      It's like with houses in Detroit, you can buy for a dollar, the rest is your problem.
      Only for some reason there are no buyers.
      1. MMX
        MMX April 22 2020 12: 23 New
        +2
        Quote: atalef
        Quote: Svetlana
         Against this background, the WTI and Urals brands are trading at extremely low levels, which on some days even go through zero. 

        It must be understood that physically, oil is not sold for a price below zero. Thus, futures (delivery obligations) held by stockbrokers were sold.

        Futures is a supply contract.
        Having bought futures, say a million tons of oil for May, at a negative price (those with a surcharge from the seller), I will receive this oil at a negative price.
        But where I will put it is already my problem.
        It's like with houses in Detroit, you can buy for a dollar, the rest is your problem.
        Only for some reason there are no buyers.


        Physically, oil from the supplier ("from the well") was bought for a very positive and real value. But how the buyer of oil will sell it there, and here the game begins. That is the question: futures (exclusively American (!) May futures) were traded at a negative price. Those. it is a speculative value. The same Brent did not have such a phenomenon. And Urals, as it turned out, too.
        But where I will put it is already my problem.

        But this was the reason for the negative price of the contracts. Since exchange brokers do not have an oil storage facility (who would have thought), and the deadline for fulfilling oil supply obligations is coming.
        Here we must understand (and not many can) that oil storage is not profitable, because it is very expensive and ultimately makes a good added value for oil.
        1. atalef
          atalef April 22 2020 15: 40 New
          +3
          Quote: MMX
          Physically, oil from the supplier ("from the well") was bought for a very positive and real value.

          Futures are oil not yet extracted.
          The meaning of futures is an advance contract for delivery, but with payment in advance.
          This oil has already been paid for - the first buyer of the futures, it was probably bought 3-4 months ago from the producer, and certainly not with a minus.
          But now the problem is - I have a contract, I paid for it, 100000 tons will come to me (say, an oil tanker) in a month.
          and I must accept it.
          And where to ?
          So they throw off for next to nothing maybe sticking these 100000 tons of oil for me will be even more expensive than selling at a loss.

          Quote: MMX
          But this was the reason for the negative price of the contracts. Since exchange brokers do not have an oil storage facility (who would have thought), and the deadline for fulfilling oil supply obligations is coming.
          Here we must understand (and not many can) that oil storage is not profitable, because it is very expensive and ultimately makes a good added value for oil.

          Sorry, I didn’t read your comment until the end, you said exactly what I meant. hi
  • 30143
    30143 April 22 2020 07: 21 New
    +9
    The noose was tightened on the neck of the economy for 5 years. Nobody wanted to fight with the Russian Federation ...
    The Sambista was defeated by an aikidist.
    We played along all the time ...
    And we complained ... We began to threaten the world with cruise missiles, hypersonic pepelatsy and so on.
    The moment has arrived.
    And our businessmen from the Government imagined God knows what.
    This is me about the Russian Federation and Ukraine. Whatever they say, twin sisters.
    Now they will stall!
    I ask the cheers of the patriots not to twist and not to react. This is for those who think ...
    1. Range
      Range April 22 2020 07: 57 New
      -2
      They warned about this for a long time and more than once (only some people kept ear prostheses in their pockets) that the Hour X would come and all virtual zeros would be crossed out. And they will not pity anyone, neither the right nor the wrong, nor the exceptional and not the chosen. And when this denomination is complete, then we'll see who's left afloat. Not yet evening. In the meantime, the penguins have a feast in full swing in the comments "during the plague."
    2. Volodin
      Volodin April 22 2020 08: 00 New
      +5
      Quote: 30143
      The noose was tightened on the neck of the economy for 5 years. Nobody wanted to fight with the Russian Federation ...
      The Sambista was defeated by an aikidist.
      We played along all the time ...
      And we complained ...
      Now they will stall!

      Apparently, you seriously believe that everything that is happening is "intrigues exclusively against Russia." The whole world goes into a hard minus, unemployment grows in the EU and the USA, companies from Singapore to Canada go bankrupt ... Well, if this is exclusively against the "sambist", then it's like setting fire to a nine-story building to spite your neighbor ... You have too many illusions about opinions of the world regarding the "power" of Russia. For thinking ...
      1. dzvero
        dzvero April 22 2020 09: 00 New
        0
        In my opinion, the West, hiding behind a "pandemic", is trying to deflate the bubble in a controlled manner at the expense of the whole world and again go "into the kingdoms". As if by the fall it did not turn out that it is not the US / EU who owes everyone, but the world owes them. The United States has already done this twice - after the PMA, it changed from a debtor to a creditor; after WWII, in fact, they became the only superpower of the West, and the dollar was the occupation currency. Now the "pandemic" is playing the role of world war ... interesting times ... dancing on thin ice ...
      2. 30143
        30143 April 22 2020 16: 23 New
        +1
        For Volodin.
        I believe that it is also against China. And the guys need legitimacy. Therefore, someone will go bankrupt ... There the bankruptcy law is not our laws, where the last pants will be removed.
        And do not discount that they print the money that we buy.
  • Free wind
    Free wind April 22 2020 07: 29 New
    +8
    It seems to me that reducing oil consumption is not only the consequences of the crisis. Well, what is a crisis? Read the capital of K. Marx. This is not the prankster of a half-bald figure about Jews, but quite competent material on the economy .. Well, green technology is still coming. Wind generators, solar power plants are multiplying. Mini hydroelectric power stations make ten on each stream. Recycling garbage. Electric vehicles from many manufacturers already have 50% of the volume. And we all grin our teeth, how stupid they are. Well, let's catch it.
    1. Snail N9
      Snail N9 April 22 2020 08: 21 New
      +2
      About the "offensive of" green energy "- ts-s-s-silent! Don't talk about it in Russia! -Oil and gas-" nashfs. "Remember how the GDP just recently said with a grin that" the alternative to oil and gas in in the near future, no and never will. "And since the" all-wise "said so, then so, it is. yes
      1. muham
        muham April 22 2020 11: 05 New
        0
        Quote: Snail N9
        About the "offensive of" green energy "- ts-s-s-silent! Don't talk about it in Russia! -Oil and gas-" nashfs. "Remember how the GDP just recently said with a grin that" the alternative to oil and gas in in the near future, no and never will. "And since the" all-wise "said so, then so, it is. yes

        That's it, and then $ 100, $ 80, the cost of cracker technologies - we don’t think there. The cost of email. machines and their reloading. Here's what to count.
    2. unhappy
      unhappy April 22 2020 08: 28 New
      +2
      Green technologies and competition in the economy are antagonists. Green technology is the pampering of rich Pinocchio or compulsion by laws and excise taxes to abandon traditional, more profitable technologies.
      1. Snail N9
        Snail N9 April 22 2020 08: 33 New
        +4
        Be that as it may, but they are reducing oil consumption more and more.
    3. unhappy
      unhappy April 22 2020 08: 41 New
      +1
      What percentage of the production of electric vehicles in the truck sector that actually work, and do not drive Achtungs? laughing
      1. Free wind
        Free wind April 22 2020 09: 46 New
        +2
        Tesla 100%, Ford, which in America is 60%. Turkish truck tractors Fords And Brazilian those diesels. Scania, VOLVO, and already in Africa, are switching to lipidism. Let's say cars that do not meet eco standards are forbidden to drive into Los Angeles, so it’s cheaper to use electric cars. Yes, it seems cheaper to ride on negitos. Why, he got a banana in his mouth and in front of him. Well, for the holidays, boil an ear of corn, or a couple of potatoes, well, just not to get burned.
        1. unhappy
          unhappy April 23 2020 06: 40 New
          0
          I lagged behind life, it turns out that truckloads in America drive lipidism! request
          Likewise, mining cars, too (and other industries), and only in bast land Russia and Africa use diesel fuel and gasoline.
          1. Free wind
            Free wind April 23 2020 10: 14 New
            0
            Yes, in Africa and Australia, Europe, America and Asia, already about 50 years old, as used.
            1. unhappy
              unhappy April 24 2020 06: 16 New
              0
              Well, yes, Elvis Presley was a trucker and did not find this happy time a little. Trucks in america on lezdrism is not even funny negative
  • Hey
    Hey April 22 2020 08: 28 New
    +3
    Do not forget that the price of gas is also tied to the price of oil.
    1. UserGun
      UserGun April 22 2020 10: 32 New
      0
      Already. In the UK, gas has become less expensive than in Russia.

      "The price with delivery on Tuesday at the British hub National Balancing Point fell to $ 48,5 per thousand cubic meters, and on Tuesday - $ 45,65 (last week the price was at $ 62,5). This is already lower (without any adjustments for transport and export duties) gas prices in Russia ($ 64 in the western regions of the country)." https://www.interfax.ru/business/705247
  • parusnik
    parusnik April 22 2020 08: 45 New
    +4
    This is not regards Russia, according to the guarantor, a long time ago they got off the oil needle laughing With the help of foreign investment ...
    1. muham
      muham April 22 2020 11: 07 New
      -1
      Quote: parusnik
      With the help of foreign investment ...

      What kind? request Duck and their netuti.
  • Keeping
    Keeping April 22 2020 09: 00 New
    +1
    Yesterday cattle meeting OPEC + they agreed now to trade in Ginger ...
    1. parusnik
      parusnik April 22 2020 09: 10 New
      +3
      And lemons ... laughing
    2. UserGun
      UserGun April 22 2020 10: 28 New
      +1
      Amused))) I read it as "cattle meeting")))
  • 123456789
    123456789 April 22 2020 09: 01 New
    -2
    Our country loses billions of rubles due to “garbage” oil prices

    The ruble is tied to oil by the formula: Ruble = 1 / (0,00024 * Oil + 0,00281), so the country will receive rubles in any way
    1. Roman123567
      Roman123567 April 22 2020 12: 39 New
      0
      Checked - and really ..
      I didn’t even know ..))
  • Comrade Michael
    Comrade Michael April 22 2020 09: 09 New
    +2
    And after all, this is only the beginning of all our shocks .... At an interesting time we live. Not the fact that it will be good, but it will be interesting, for sure.
  • sanik2020
    sanik2020 April 22 2020 10: 08 New
    +2
    Even after the crisis, oil will not be in such demand as before the crisis, unless the chemical industry and, to a lesser extent, fuel. The whole world began to switch to renewable energy sources, one electric vehicle as it pulled and in the Kremlin everyone believed that everything was our oil and gas. Here are their strategies and analytics.
    1. spectr
      spectr April 22 2020 13: 47 New
      0
      He works with an acquaintance in the oil industry (leads contracts with Asian republics). According to him, oil consumption looks something like this: 15% fuel and 85% chemical industry with oil-based products (all kinds of polymaterials). In this situation, it is too early to bury oil.
  • Grading
    Grading April 22 2020 10: 20 New
    +2

    What Putin and his team could not do in 20 years did Mohammed bin Salman Al Saud he removed Russia from the oil needle laughing
    1. atalef
      atalef April 22 2020 11: 07 New
      +2
      Quote: Grading

      What Putin and his team could not do in 20 years did Mohammed bin Salman Al Saud he removed Russia from the oil needle laughing

      If only removal from the needle was not replaced by landing on a stake.
      1. MMX
        MMX April 22 2020 12: 27 New
        -1
        Quote: atalef
        Quote: Grading

        What Putin and his team could not do in 20 years did Mohammed bin Salman Al Saud he removed Russia from the oil needle laughing

        If only removal from the needle was not replaced by landing on a stake.


        No, it's not quite like that. Or rather, not at all like that:
        - Starting the oil war with Russia, the Saudis unexpectedly defeated the United States laughing
        1. atalef
          atalef April 22 2020 15: 33 New
          +2
          Quote: MMX
          Starting the oil war with Russia, the Saudis unexpectedly defeated the United States

          come on.
          Just from the point of view of well conservation, shale oil is the simplest.
          1. MMX
            MMX April 22 2020 18: 47 New
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            Quote: atalef
            Quote: MMX
            Starting the oil war with Russia, the Saudis unexpectedly defeated the United States

            come on.
            Just from the point of view of well conservation, shale oil is the simplest.


            And there are no problems with the usual conservation, sort of like big ones.
            Here the question is different - how to "mothball" the company (with all assets and liabilities). After all, it is only in a fairy tale that you can "castle on the barn" and wait for better times ...
            1. atalef
              atalef April 22 2020 18: 57 New
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              Quote: MMX
              And there are no problems with the usual conservation.

              generally that is
              Given the average well production rate in Russia of ≈ 65 barrels / hammer, to reduce oil production by 1 million barrels / day in terms of conditional full conservation, the Russian authorities will have to mothball more than 15 thousand wells, the Saudis - about 200 wells.
              Even this is practically an impossible task for the Russian authorities.
              Consent to this titanic work means that the authorities assess the situation in Russia as emergency.
              A decrease in Russian production by more than 1 million barrels per day will make Russia's oil and gas not alive, to put it mildly.
              And the Saudis will return production volumes pretty quickly, the flow rate of their wells is 100 times higher.
              That is, speaking of the fact that Saudi Arabia and Russia reduce production by 10 million barrels per day, they are hurt more precisely in Russia.
              Physically, Russia will not be able to plannedly reduce production by 5 million barrels / knock of oil. It can only be an avalanche-like uncontrollable process.
              1. MMX
                MMX April 22 2020 19: 00 New
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                There are also such opinions. I heard a different point of view.
                I agree that in any case, conservation is clearly a measure of extreme and disadvantageous company.
  • 123456789
    123456789 April 22 2020 11: 14 New
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    Quote: kjhg
    Well conservation in our country is a very expensive pleasure

    Not much more expensive than normal well operation:
    Before putting wells into conservation, it is necessary: ​​a) to lift equipment from the well. When mothballed for more than one year, underground equipment rises in wells equipped with hydraulic rod pumps; b) run the tubing, flush the wellbore, clean the perforation interval; c) check the tightness of the column and the absence of annular circulation; d) fill the wellbore with a neutral fluid, eliminating the corrosive effects on the string and ensuring the conservation of reservoir properties of the productive horizon and the necessary back pressure on the formation. Fill the top of the well with non-freezing fluid;
  • KARAKURT15
    KARAKURT15 April 22 2020 11: 45 New
    +2
    [/ quote] Oil is becoming increasingly difficult to call "black gold" [quote]

    Thank the granfather for the victory! laughing
  • A.TOR
    A.TOR April 22 2020 11: 46 New
    +5
    How it became ... amazing to read the comments! Until recently, "we will break!" ... "the plan to destroy America" ​​"..." getting up from our knees! "... ... And now" ... but the king is not real! "
    Reminds of the historical "... and in October there was a little of that ..." As usual.
  • Mentat
    Mentat April 22 2020 11: 58 New
    -5
    The note is clearly blotted out like a throw in with the expectation of an increase in the number of comments. The owners of the site want to eat. Nice to eat.

    At 6:00 Moscow time, the price of Brent crude oil was $ 18,4 per barrel. Against this background, the WTI and Urals brands are trading at extremely low levels, which on some days even go through zero.

    Miracle author, you know in general how negative prices are formed on overbought contracts for the supply of oil? Do you distinguish between oil prices and the prices of paper speculators (contracts), which they try to shove each other in the hope of earning money from changing oil prices? Obviously, that is not in the know. Why then climb to compose such garbage? Oh yes, the site owners want to eat.

    Negative contract prices only speak of market expectations и brokers forecastand not about the fact that right now the producer will start pouring bucks into your pocket for the fact that you deign to accept its oil.

    In particular, WTI crude oil sometimes drops significantly below zero because US oil storage facilities are almost full and it is becoming too expensive for speculative traders to rent storage volumes if they do not manage to drop contracts on the exchange.
    The price of Russian oil fell to virtual - $ 2 because of a skepticism at one point about the ability of Russia to make deliveries by tankers against the background of an overloaded tanker fleet, this did not apply to pipeline oil.

    Therefore, it’s enough to carry this ridiculous nonsense already in the “super-articles” with the frank purpose of inciting a holivar in the comments and powdering people's brains.

    Stupid stuffing example:
    Against this background, the WTI and Urals brands are trading at extremely low levels, which on some days even go through zero.


    Pipeline Urals brand oil feels great (relative to other brands of oil) even in the form of futures, because it is a reliable source of supply for its profile plants in Europe.

    To the facts from nonsense and stuffing. Brent / Urals Value Ratio:
  • Mentat
    Mentat April 22 2020 12: 06 New
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    Quote: Snail N9
    About the "offensive of" green energy "- ts-s-s-silent! Don't talk about it in Russia! -Oil and gas-" nashfs. "Remember how the GDP just recently said with a grin that" the alternative to oil and gas in in the near future, no and never will. "And since the" all-wise "said so, then so, it is. yes

    The onset of "green technology" goes only to the taxpayer. Read how much this costs consumers in Germany.
  • Mentat
    Mentat April 22 2020 12: 14 New
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    Quote: pru-pavel
    Very interesting. They said that the dollar was an unsecured candy wrapper. And now it turned out that he was provided with oil futures. Really interesting time

    For decades, the dollar has actually been a petro-dollar, so the US is so persistently climbing wherever there is oil, they need control over oil production to ensure the viability of the dollar.
  • Mentat
    Mentat April 22 2020 12: 28 New
    -4
    Judging by what nonsense they give in to the rating, it is obvious that the site is simply infected with bots.

    The administration, however, is looking at it through the fingers, although the Forum Rules provide for punishment for publishing knowingly false information, insulting and inciting hatred.
  • Mentat
    Mentat April 22 2020 12: 32 New
    -5
    Here's a look above how this team of bots has built up cons of factual information, without any objections (there is nothing to argue). This is a reflection of their dull malice that they are prevented from sowing provocations, lies and incitement.

    Site administration, maybe it's time to get pens from pockets already white?
  • Roman123567
    Roman123567 April 22 2020 12: 34 New
    +2
    But still 185 years ago they warned about this ..
  • Mentat
    Mentat April 22 2020 12: 43 New
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    Quote: March 53rd
    If oil retains its negative value, then a barrel of oil will soon begin to be dumped!

    Although, perhaps, this is exactly what was predicted in this ingenious article:


    We survived until the breakthrough 2020, now we’ll live! The economy does not depend on oil anymore, it remains about the average salary of $ 2700 and apartments of 100 squares per family of three, how to justify it)))

    Quiet years of development were expected. No one foresaw attempts at sanctioned strangulation and crises. I agree with the fact that the Ministry of Economic Development showed great naivety. They are not experts in geopolitics, but nonetheless. They will try not to give us these calm years of development by any means. Including stuffing on Russian-language sites.
    1. atalef
      atalef April 22 2020 18: 39 New
      +1
      Quote: Mentat
      Quiet years of development were expected.

      there is an old anecdote the difference between expectation and reality
      the son comes to his father and asks:
      “Dad, what's the difference between expectation and reality?”
      The father wondered how it would be easier to explain to his son. And came up with. They approach his wife, the husband asks:
      - Here, wife. Would you surrender to whomever Vasya was for a million dollars?
      - Well yes.
      Father thought again. Suitable for daughter:
      - Here, daughter. Would you give in to whatever Keshe for a million dollars?
      - Of course!
      Father thought more deeply. They went to grandfather.
      “Grandfather, would you give yourself up to Petya and Kesha for a million dollars? And nobody asks them.”
      Grandfather thought and agreed.
      Father is standing and thinking how to explain this to his son now. Well, I came up with it.
      - Here you see, son. In the future, we have 3 million dollars, but in reality two whores and one old pervert! =)

      Quote: Mentat
      No one foresaw attempts at sanctioned strangulation and crises

      well of course.
      No one thought that an answer would come in the form of sanctions for Crimea.
      in Europe, however, some gays have all their thoughts at all - who should surrender in the nearest gateway.
      And here, since sanctions - yes
      -If you need to repeat, it didn’t scare.
      They are even - More sanctions and counter-sanctions were not scared-- gays. in a word.
      In general, you have to pay for everything in this life, and the same for green men.

      Quote: Mentat
      I agree with the fact that the Ministry of Economic Development showed great naivety. They are not experts in geopolitics,

      well, a specialist in geopolitics - Lavrov and the Darkest with multi-paths --- well, and as a result?
      Quote: Mentat
      They will try not to give us these calm years of development by any means

      Yes, you somehow didn’t particularly like them. He who wants peace himself lives peacefully and gives it to others.
      Quote: Mentat
      Including stuffing on Russian-language sites.

      it definitely affects.
  • akshor
    akshor April 22 2020 15: 49 New
    +1
    What happened was to happen a long time ago. The restructuring of the economy was needed a long time ago. But Putin was too late. Further than being the president of the oligarchs, who have only enriched themselves in the extraction of raw materials, to continue is utopia, but fear of losing power only increases the degradation of the country. But Putin simply can’t change anything except to bet on the good old oligarchs who are loyal and lured. Tk remained in development in the 2000s, and the mindset was rebuilt, all the more so the aging and senile decline. Therefore, the turnover of power is important. This update is at the request of the community. But new challenges, etc. One cannot rule a century according to the same pattern. In a dynamically developing world. We need reforms and investments in non-resource sectors. Pharmaceuticals, IT, engineering, shipbuilding, aircraft manufacturing, automotive, electronics and related industries, agricultural sector. Even fish is easier to take to Norway than to Murmansk. And they have been talking about the problem for decades. But there is no solution. Remove elementary bureaucratic obstacles. In general, I see nothing good. They will only breed and empower the siloviki to protect the power more effectively from the people. In other words, it’s better to hide. And for thirst to rule for life, entire generations will pay.

    We are waiting for new taxes
  • Grading
    Grading April 22 2020 16: 34 New
    -1
    Quote: atalef
    Quote: Grading

    What Putin and his team could not do in 20 years did Mohammed bin Salman Al Saud he removed Russia from the oil needle laughing

    If only removal from the needle was not replaced by landing on a stake.

    Today, a shovel stalk is in fashion.
  • Mentat
    Mentat April 22 2020 16: 52 New
    -4
    See what bacchanalia is just happening in this thread.

    The information war in its purest form.

    True, the performers are good for nothing, except for the previously formulated stuffing and riveting of minuses to those who publish the facts. Intelligence is no longer enough for a discussion. Consumables purchased for the war is the cheapest.

    Wholesale, cheaply, in the country of 404 and just not very smart people to fall for the “new socialism” from Platoshkin and Co., which carries such nonsense that an adequate person on the other side of the street will move away from him. Quote: “After 3-4 days, hunger riots will begin in the country, then we need to seize power.” Bulk in another package, which donates not to shkolota, but to pensioners.
  • Mentat
    Mentat April 23 2020 00: 40 New
    0
    Quote: atalef
    Quote: Mentat
    Quiet years of development were expected.

    there is an old anecdote the difference between expectation and reality
    the son comes to his father and asks:
    “Dad, what's the difference between expectation and reality?”
    The father wondered how it would be easier to explain to his son. And came up with. They approach his wife, the husband asks:
    - Here, wife. Would you surrender to whomever Vasya was for a million dollars?
    - Well yes.
    Father thought again. Suitable for daughter:
    - Here, daughter. Would you give in to whatever Keshe for a million dollars?
    - Of course!
    Father thought more deeply. They went to grandfather.
    “Grandfather, would you give yourself up to Petya and Kesha for a million dollars? And nobody asks them.”
    Grandfather thought and agreed.
    Father is standing and thinking how to explain this to his son now. Well, I came up with it.
    - Here you see, son. In the future, we have 3 million dollars, but in reality two whores and one old pervert! =)

    Quote: Mentat
    No one foresaw attempts at sanctioned strangulation and crises

    well of course.
    No one thought that an answer would come in the form of sanctions for Crimea.
    in Europe, however, some gays have all their thoughts at all - who should surrender in the nearest gateway.
    And here, since sanctions - yes
    -If you need to repeat, it didn’t scare.
    They are even - More sanctions and counter-sanctions were not scared-- gays. in a word.
    In general, you have to pay for everything in this life, and the same for green men.

    Quote: Mentat
    I agree with the fact that the Ministry of Economic Development showed great naivety. They are not experts in geopolitics,

    well, a specialist in geopolitics - Lavrov and the Darkest with multi-paths --- well, and as a result?
    Quote: Mentat
    They will try not to give us these calm years of development by any means

    Yes, you somehow didn’t particularly like them. He who wants peace himself lives peacefully and gives it to others.
    Quote: Mentat
    Including stuffing on Russian-language sites.

    it definitely affects.



    The first question that arises when you see your letters: why are you so worried about Putin and Lavrov, together with Crimea and Russia's geopolitics? Are you a part-time agent here? Pay decently though? I understand that it’s not a million, and in the long term there are no 3 million, but still?

    Quote: Mentat
    Including stuffing on Russian-language sites.

    it definitely affects.

    Well, you did decide to do this, which means you are hoping for something there, although this is ridiculous, to be honest. You constantly confuse incendiary Arab guys with Russia.
    Russia is one of the pillars of civilization in the world, if you look at things completely unemotionally and objectively. You just can’t decide on such a thing. You were called for another. If you still remember.

    No one thought that an answer would come in the form of sanctions for Crimea.

    In 2008, Crimea was still very far away. When it got closer, we thought, prepared, took into account.

    well, a specialist in geopolitics - Lavrov and the Darkest with multi-paths --- well, and as a result?

    Very good result. As you can see, Russia was neither able to "tear to shreds" nor "isolate", as Obama dreamed and hastened to announce, nor to intimidate. A somewhat different sort of people lives with us in order to frighten him. Moreover, under these conditions, one of the highest gold and currency reserves in the world has been accumulated. The operation in Syria was completely successful with a huge geopolitical resonance in favor of Russia. So your question is rather rhetorical.

    They are even - More sanctions and counter-sanctions are not scared

    Mutual losses, while, as mentioned above, Russia managed to increase its foreign exchange reserves, take its place in the domestic market with its own products, and systematically engage in infrastructure development and construction of gigantic industrial enterprises.

    You just have to try to nag and tell jokes on the site. This is a great success, of course, of all your “influence” hi
  • 123456789
    123456789 April 23 2020 06: 29 New
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    from the Sermon on the Mount of Jesus Christ: “Do not give sanctuary to the dogs and do not throw your pearls before the pigs, so that they do not trample it under their feet and, turning, do not tear you to pieces.” “The Bible Matt. 7: 6 ”/ synodal translation, 1816–1862