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In the Leningrad region there was a poster for Victory Day with photos of collaborators

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At the information stand in the city of Lomonosov, Leningrad Region, a poster “General victory - common memory” appeared. One of the central places on it was taken by a photograph of the Idel-Ural legion who fought against the Red Army on the side of the Nazis.


Material about this case Appeared in the Petersburg edition of Fontanka. One of the city residents drew attention to the contents of the poster and reported it to the editor.

The Idel-Ural Legion during the Great Patriotic War acted on the side of the Nazis and was formed from representatives of the Volga peoples. Typical collaboration formation.

In the Leningrad region there was a poster for Victory Day with photos of collaborators

A poster depicting these “heroes” was printed in a print run of 20 copies in a local printing house. The administration of Lomonosov told the representatives of Fontanka who called there that all the posters were replaced this morning. The reason that the poster was on the streets of the city was explained by a mistake. At the same time, the administration admitted that they approved the layout without even looking at it.

And this is not the most egregious case regarding Victory Day posters that has occurred in recent years. For example, in Ivanteevka on a billboard a photo of the crew of a German bomber appeared with the inscription "They fought for their homeland." And in the Sverdlovsk region on a jubilee poster appeared bravely marching Nazi soldiers in easily recognizable stalhelm helmets.

But the top of idiocy was the poster for Victory Day in the Kaliningrad region, where English soldiers of the First World War in characteristic cork helmets were depicted.

And in the Ulyanovsk region, local authorities supported the initiative to plant 1488 shrubs by the Victory Day.

It seems that this is to blame, on the one hand, for the excessive “creativity” of designers, and on the other, for the startling indifference of the local authorities responsible for organizing the celebrations.
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  1. Sky strike fighter
    Sky strike fighter April 21 2020 15: 43 New
    54
    The victims of the exam are not very clear where the winners are, and where the losers are.
    1. 210ox
      210ox April 21 2020 15: 49 New
      68
      It's not about the victims. This is done CONSCIOUSLY.
      1. Bashkirkhan
        Bashkirkhan April 21 2020 15: 55 New
        -32
        The Volga-Tatar SS Legion "Idel-Ural", unlike the ROA, did not really fight. In 1943-1944, about 30 thousand soldiers of the legion went over to the side of the partisans and to the allies. For example, the 825th battalion of more than 500 people, created by the Germans from prisoners of the Idel-Ural legion, on February 23, 1943, went over to the side of one of the detachments of the 1st Vitebsk partisan brigade, after shooting the Germans who served in the legion.
        At the same time, about 70 Cossacks served in the Wehrmacht, parts of the Waffen SS and in the auxiliary police during the years of World War II, most of which were former Soviet citizens who sided with Germany during the occupation. Military units were formed from the Cossacks, who subsequently fought both on the Soviet-German front, and against the Western allies - in France, Italy and especially against the partisans in the Balkans.
        1. Sklendarka
          Sklendarka April 21 2020 16: 59 New
          42
          Wonderful, ... almost never fought, "that is, half a bump? Well, well ...
          1. Bashkirkhan
            Bashkirkhan April 21 2020 17: 12 New
            +3
            And you did not think why there was no deportation of the Tatars on the Volga in 1944? I was in Kalmykia, I was in the Caucasus, but I wasn’t there. And why the former in the legion of Musa Jalil earned his title of Hero of the Soviet Union and a monument in the center of Kazan.
            1. PalBor
              PalBor April 21 2020 18: 04 New
              23
              In fact, Musa Jalil was one of the organizers of a powerful underground organization in this legion. They were campaigning among the personnel of the battalions, urging the soldiers not to fight against the USSR, to go to the partisans. They organized a series of escapes from the concentration camps of Soviet prisoners of war. As a result, unfortunately, he was captured and executed. That is why he is a Hero. And the remaining 40? Not sure if they deserve to be called heroes.
              1. PalBor
                PalBor April 21 2020 18: 19 New
                +9
                There is a new trend in the West: ROA Vlasova - liberators of Prague. You will offer Old Man: Idel-Ural - liberators of Belarus. Here he will be glad! May reward you ... posthumously (almost a quote).
              2. Peter is not the first
                Peter is not the first April 21 2020 21: 32 New
                +6
                Musa Jalil became a Hero of the USSR only in 1956, when his "Moabit notebooks" with poetry were found and his biography was studied again after being captured, and before that he was in the rank of a traitor. These are the twists and turns of our history.
                1. Aristarkh Lyudvigovich
                  Aristarkh Lyudvigovich April 21 2020 22: 08 New
                  +7
                  After the war, the Ministry of State Security of the USSR opened a case against Musa Jalil. He was accused of treason and aiding the enemy for participating in the Idel-Ural Legion created by German military intelligence. Jalil, when captured, entered this legion. In the bowels of this unit, Musa Jalil and his associates created a subversive organization, printed leaflets, and conducted a recruitment campaign among the legionnaires. The group was exposed and Musa Jalil, along with 10 associates, was executed on the guillotine. It must be said that the charge brought against them did not draw to the death penalty. Before this, two groups of Tatar legionnaires were convicted on the same charge of hard labor. But in June 1944 there was an attempt on Adolf Hitler, after which all those accused of state crimes began to be sentenced to death. In 1953, the famous writer Konstantin Simonov took up the fate of the Moabit Notebook, who wrote a large article about Jalil and organized the translation of his poems, which contributed to his rehabilitation. Subsequently, Jalil was posthumously awarded the title “Hero of the Soviet Union”.
        2. Sky strike fighter
          Sky strike fighter April 21 2020 17: 07 New
          +9
          Quote: Bashkirkhan
          The Volga-Tatar SS Legion "Idel-Ural", unlike the ROA, did not really fight. In 1943-1944, about 30 thousand soldiers of the legion went over to the side of the partisans and to the allies. For example, the 825th battalion of more than 500 people, created by the Germans from prisoners of the Idel-Ural legion, on February 23, 1943, went over to the side of one of the detachments of the 1st Vitebsk partisan brigade, after shooting the Germans who served in the legion.
          At the same time, about 70 Cossacks served in the Wehrmacht, parts of the Waffen SS and in the auxiliary police during the years of World War II, most of which were former Soviet citizens who sided with Germany during the occupation. Military units were formed from the Cossacks, who subsequently fought both on the Soviet-German front, and against the Western allies - in France, Italy and especially against the partisans in the Balkans.

          Do you think there are good fascists? Do not be like the heroes of this article. (collaborators) Fascism will not work !!!
          1. Bashkirkhan
            Bashkirkhan April 21 2020 17: 15 New
            -12
            Quote: Sky Strike fighter
            Do you think there are good fascists? Do not be like the heroes of this article. (collaborators) Fascism will not work !!!

            Well, firstly, the Nazis were in Italy, in the Third Reich there was National Socialism. Secondly, the legion almost in full force dumped to the partisans in February 1943, and in August 1944. 30 thousand legionnaires were not in battles with the partisans, but on their side. Do you feel the difference? In German uniform, with rifles, with cannons, with ammunition. The Fuehrer planned to leave only 198 million of the 50 million Soviet citizens alive (plan "Ost"), the legionaries were actually suicide bombers.
            1. Insurgent
              Insurgent April 21 2020 17: 28 New
              23
              Quote: Bashkirkhan
              Well, in the first place the Nazis were in Italy, in the Third Reich there was National Socialism.

              Oh yeah? belay

              It turns out "stupid" German Communist anti-fascists did not know what code they have bred?

              Quote: Learn Colonel Cassad
              On the topic of fabrications: "But in Germany there was no fascism, there was Nazism, and fascism was in Italy, and in general, Soviet propaganda came up with fascism in Germany".
              Pictured is the Karl Liebknecht House, the headquarters of the Communist Party of Germany since 1926. Caption: "Take anti-fascist actions against war, famine and fascism. Vote for the Communists. Vote for the KKE. CNG - list number 3».
              The German Communist Party of the times of the Weimar Republic apparently was not aware that there was no fascism in Germany.


            2. lelik613
              lelik613 April 21 2020 17: 47 New
              +7
              Here you need to correctly place the stress. If about the good guys from the legion and their fate - one thing. If about the Victory in the Great War, and even a collective image, you need a Red Army soldier who does not allow double interpretation. Offer another Stirlitz in the form of an "electrician", which hesitate.
        3. Aleksey Aleksandrovich
          Aleksey Aleksandrovich April 21 2020 17: 08 New
          +3
          You better be silent. I understand that I’ll catch the ban ...!
          1. Bashkirkhan
            Bashkirkhan April 21 2020 17: 19 New
            -9
            Calm down Alexey, the world is not only black and white.
            1. The comment was deleted.
            2. Dart
              Dart April 21 2020 23: 22 New
              +2
              In this section, he is only SUCH !!
      2. AU Ivanov.
        AU Ivanov. April 21 2020 16: 05 New
        -10
        Again conspiracy theory? And the MiG-17 on the poster dedicated to the Victory, what do you attribute to: conscious or unconscious? I saw such a poster with my own eyes.
        1. 210ox
          210ox April 21 2020 16: 24 New
          17
          Yes, knowingly. There are customers and performers. Do you think the performers are short-sighted and not smart. But customers are quite conscious people and see WHAT products they palm off. And they are quite happy with that. My wife worked as a journalist, and God forbid that her article will be something wrong, which does not fit into the task of the editor.
        2. Lopatov
          Lopatov April 21 2020 16: 50 New
          16
          Quote: AS Ivanov.
          Again conspiracy theory?

          Ага.
          laughing

          In general, why not the RF Ministry of Defense to create an online resource with a clipart for such products, postcards, posters, etc. By May 9 and February 23.

          And then there is only enough of them for indignation .... Regular. Twice a year.
          laughing
          1. Piramidon
            Piramidon April 21 2020 16: 56 New
            16
            Quote: Spade
            In general, why not the RF Ministry of Defense to create an online resource with a clipart for such products, postcards, posters, etc. By May 9 and February 23.

            Do you think that those who produce these provocative posters will go to download something from the MO site? They have their own collection, approved by their sponsors.
            1. Lopatov
              Lopatov April 21 2020 16: 57 New
              +4
              Quote: Piramidon
              Do you think that those who produce these provocative posters will go to download something from the MO site?

              Конечно.
            2. Uruguay
              Uruguay April 21 2020 17: 00 New
              +1
              Quote: Piramidon
              They have their own collection, approved by their sponsors.

              How are you to the point then .. It's just that with such agencies, someone arranges such provocations with a specialist, to advertise themselves especially to Soros, etc. Estimate what a howl and ridicule now again will go a wave .. Oh Russia patient soul .. angry
              1. Grandfather
                Grandfather April 21 2020 19: 34 New
                +1
                Quote: Uruguay
                Quote: Piramidon
                They have their own collection, approved by their sponsors.

                How are you to the point then .. That's just the way these agencies someone special provocation such suits for advertisements especially before Soros, etc. Estimate what a howl and ridicule now again will go a wave .. Oh Russia patient soul .. angry

                Mihan, it’s like you didn’t go to school ... well, you can't make so many mistakes!
            3. Moore
              Moore April 21 2020 17: 42 New
              12
              Quote: Piramidon
              Do you think that those who produce these provocative posters will go to download something from the MO site? They have their own collection, approved by their sponsors.

              Do you think that when an American Senator congratulates his sailors with our "Peter", it was the Darkest One who, in turn, reached out?

              Yes, I do not exclude provocations.
              But in most cases, dumb ignorance and sincere conviction of one’s talent. Well, the desire to quickly cut the dough, of course.
              1. Lopatov
                Lopatov April 21 2020 18: 18 New
                +3
                Quote: Moore
                this in turn reached the Darkest?

              2. Peter is not the first
                Peter is not the first April 21 2020 21: 41 New
                +4
                Maybe the American senator sincerely wished for his country the same beautiful and powerful cruisers as our heavy nuclear missile, the Nakhimov Order, the Peter the Great cruiser. wink
                Although most likely his assistant chose the most beautiful ship in the Internet media base and the senator only found out about this when a scandal broke out. drinks
            4. Alexey RA
              Alexey RA April 21 2020 19: 20 New
              +9
              Quote: Piramidon
              Do you think that those who produce these provocative posters will go to download something from the MO site?

              Yes Easy. Just for posters ordered by government agencies, you need to make the use of the library mandatory: when approving the layout, photo numbers are provided. No number - no payment. There was payment without a number - a fine from the official who endorsed the layout.
          2. Grass
            Grass April 21 2020 17: 19 New
            -7
            In the USSR there was nothing there, and sovsovs in Soviet films until May 45 in black uniform went.
          3. Mordvin 3
            Mordvin 3 April 21 2020 22: 24 New
            +5
            Quote: Spade
            In general, why not the RF Ministry of Defense to create an online resource with a clipart for such products, postcards, posters, etc. By May 9 and February 23.

            Yes, it’s better to fine such expert artists and those who approve posters. Then they will think five times what kind of helmet was on the head of the Soviet soldier.
            1. Lopatov
              Lopatov April 21 2020 23: 05 New
              +2
              Quote: Mordvin 3
              Yes, it's better to fine

              For what?
              So try to find a famous photo with a banner over the Reichstag in normal quality and high resolution so that you can insert it on the poster.
              1. Mordvin 3
                Mordvin 3 April 21 2020 23: 17 New
                +2
                Quote: Spade
                For what?

                Fake news, unfair advertising, I don’t know, let lawyers and deputies think.
                Quote: Spade
                So try to find a famous photo with a banner over the Reichstag in normal quality and high resolution so that you can insert it on the poster.

                There are graphic editors, artists with brushes. It will not occur to either me or you to take photos of the troops of Honduras marching to storm the Raistag, or the Negro, setting a banner over him. No, well, there must be some kind of responsibility for the work of idiots, after watching which normal people twist their fingers around the temple. There is nothing for them to disgrace the country.
                1. Lopatov
                  Lopatov April 21 2020 23: 30 New
                  +1
                  Quote: Mordvin 3
                  There are graphic editors

                  Unreal.
                  Need an original fingerprint

                  Well, vector graphics, there you need a real artist. And not the one who makes up collages in Photoshop.
                  But a real artist really takes money.
                  1. Mordvin 3
                    Mordvin 3 April 21 2020 23: 40 New
                    +2
                    Quote: Spade
                    But a real artist really takes money.

                    Well, let them pay for the present. Today I took out a whole bunch of receipts from the mailbox, among them is a piece of paper with a song for Victory Day and a message that all veterans of the Second World War have been recalculated for electric energy, and all payments for 2119 go to 2020. Money is found for such gifts , and save on the artist.
              2. cost
                cost April 22 2020 02: 46 New
                +3
                Lopatov (Lopatov): So try to find a famous photo with a banner over the Reichstag in normal quality and high resolution so that you can insert it on the poster.

                There is no problem with this - the size and resolution have absolutely nothing to do with it.
                You’ll only have to tinker with pre-print retouching the original image and translating it into CMYK (black and gray)
                Basic requirements for large format printing for bitmap images:
                - TIF format without compression (after deleting alpha masks and paths) or PSD format (without merging layers).
                - CMYK color model (When preparing files, black and gray colors consisting only of black ink cannot be used (CMYK 0,0,0,100). On printing, this color will turn out not black, but dark gray with noticeable horizontal stripes. In non-composite gray also will "strip").
                - Resolution 300 - 360dpi

                In what format and what quality would you like to receive them?
                1. cost
                  cost April 22 2020 05: 45 New
                  +1
                  So try to find a famous photo with a banner over the Reichstag in normal quality and high resolution so that you can insert it on the poster.

                  For example, the famous Chaldean photo

                  excellent composition, color film .. but it never became an official photo of the victory banner. GUPP RKKA hacked it. The reason - two hours on both hands of an officer. That could talk about looting. This could have a bad effect on the country's reputation (E. Chaldey claimed that the latter is a compass). A pity - the photo is gorgeous, albeit staged.
                  It rises great on large billboards. As an example, a billboard is 400cm.x600cm.

                  The official snapshot of the symbol of victory was the photos of the military photographer of the newspaper Pravda Viktor Temin with Egorov and Kantaria





                  The quality of the photo is decent, so they have no problems with widescreen
            2. Reptiloid
              Reptiloid April 22 2020 05: 37 New
              +3
              Quote: mordvin xnumx
              Quote: Spade
              In general, why not the RF Ministry of Defense to create an online resource with a clipart for such products, postcards, posters, etc. By May 9 and February 23.

              Yes, it’s better to fine such expert artists and those who approve posters. Then they will think five times what kind of helmet was on the head of the Soviet soldier.

              Fine and pay for these posters, work on their installation and removal.
              THE ONLY WAY!!!!
              1. cost
                cost April 22 2020 06: 34 New
                +1
                Good morning, dear namesake hi
                fine printing? For what? Anyway, each layout is pre-certified by the customer. With its date, signature and stamp. And only then, according to the approved mock-ups, is the production of products. A customer of such billboards and posters, as a rule, is the administration. Accordingly, all demand should be with them.
                1. Reptiloid
                  Reptiloid April 22 2020 09: 00 New
                  +1
                  Greetings!
                  "" Artist "" is in a hurry, without delving into, the administration accepts the work, in a hurry without delving. But, in principle, such posters are not trusted to people from the street. So let them be fined along the chain! And they will pay for unnecessary work out of personal pocket, and for materials .......
            3. Serg koma
              Serg koma April 23 2020 07: 04 New
              0
              Quote: Mordvin 3
              Then they will think five times what kind of helmet was on the head of the Soviet soldier.

              The main thing is not that on the head, the main thing is that in the head laughing

      3. Cananecat
        Cananecat April 21 2020 16: 12 New
        14
        Last year, on the same side, somewhere in the Leningrad region, they noted with scandalous photos ... it's time to plant
      4. Uruguay
        Uruguay April 21 2020 16: 15 New
        +8
        Quote: 210ox
        It's not about the victims. This is done CONSCIOUSLY.

        100% Now there will be a lot of such "mistakes" .. This is every year before May 9 there is a wave .. After all, the veterans are humiliated by bastards, we are fine
      5. knn54
        knn54 April 21 2020 16: 33 New
        17
        Today "Arbat's grandchildren / great-grandchildren" are in power.
        1. Uruguay
          Uruguay April 21 2020 19: 46 New
          +4
          Quote: knn54
          Today "Arbat's grandchildren / great-grandchildren" are in power.

          And Vlasovites. -Adaptists .. The elite of the Soviet people in 41-45 destroyed, as they were in the forefront and the first to die
      6. private person
        private person April 21 2020 16: 46 New
        15
        This is done CONSCIOUSLY.

        From year to year the same thing for Victory Day. It is time to punish harshly for such "bloopers".
        1. Sklendarka
          Sklendarka April 21 2020 17: 02 New
          +7
          For von Eru at the mausoleum? ,, Who planted him, he is a stone ,,
      7. Sergey S.
        Sergey S. April 21 2020 16: 57 New
        12
        Quote: 210ox
        It's not about the victims. This is done CONSCIOUSLY.

        It seems so.
        For one such fact, the person who signed must be instantly dismissed.
      8. TAMBU
        TAMBU April 21 2020 19: 12 New
        +1
        I think so too ...
    2. lucul
      lucul April 21 2020 15: 50 New
      25
      The victims of the exam are not very clear where the winners are, and where the losers are.

      Only for some reason we have responsibility for denying the Holocaust, but no responsibility for such "mistakes".
      1. Sky strike fighter
        Sky strike fighter April 21 2020 16: 06 New
        +6
        Quote: lucul
        The victims of the exam are not very clear where the winners are, and where the losers are.

        Only for some reason we have responsibility for denying the Holocaust, but no responsibility for such "mistakes".

        So who pays the one and orders the music. What we ordered is what we see.
    3. Vasyan1971
      Vasyan1971 April 21 2020 15: 50 New
      +7
      Quote: Sky Strike fighter
      The victims of the exam are not very clear where the winners are, and where the losers are.

      Apparently, this was the goal ...
      1. Sky strike fighter
        Sky strike fighter April 21 2020 16: 05 New
        +7
        Educate, then to educate again, but in their own way, on their ideals. You do not need to go for an example for a long time. Just look at today's Ukraine and the transformation of consciousness of the majority of its population.
      2. DMB 75
        DMB 75 April 21 2020 16: 07 New
        16
        This would not have happened in the Soviet Union. The educational system would not have allowed such indecency.
        1. Albert1988
          Albert1988 April 21 2020 16: 12 New
          14
          Quote: DMB 75
          The education system would not allow such indecency.

          Not only the education system, but also the system of life values ​​and moral guidelines, which is expressed by modern youth in one simple word "money", alas request
          1. DMB 75
            DMB 75 April 21 2020 16: 14 New
            13
            Forced to agree, unfortunately ...
          2. tatra
            tatra April 21 2020 19: 07 New
            +7
            And another system of responsibility. In the USSR, for such a mockery of the Victory, these people immediately flew away from work. And the freedom of the enemies of the Communists, whom they so love to scream, turned out to be the freedom of irresponsibility and impunity.
        2. Sky strike fighter
          Sky strike fighter April 21 2020 16: 15 New
          18
          There was an ideology in the USSR, upbringing was subordinate to it, and no one had doubts about what was good and what was bad. And what is our ideology now? We are a country without an ideology. No basis. And as it is known to a ship that has no purpose, not a single wind will be fair. We have freedom for everything, for both bad and good. Leveling.
          1. Sergej1972
            Sergej1972 April 21 2020 22: 14 New
            +2
            Ideology, not ideology.
        3. 210ox
          210ox April 21 2020 16: 37 New
          +9
          Once again, I emphasize that this is not about education. And in the order. Although the current education does not stand up to criticism.
        4. Piramidon
          Piramidon April 21 2020 17: 05 New
          +6
          Quote: DMB 75
          In the Soviet Union, this would not have happened.

          Even if someone had such an idea, he knew that for this later he would cut the taiga with a jigsaw. Now impunity breeds permissiveness. I am sure that this time these "artists" will get away with everything, only they will threaten them with a finger at best.
        5. Sklendarka
          Sklendarka April 21 2020 17: 11 New
          +6
          DMB 75, in the year 68/69 I found a box of award-winning German crosses. The older boys are popular with me, they clarified (probably this was my first caught bream), which are fascist crosses. brotherhood is impossible and they can only be painted
          burning german airplanes / tanks
          1. Albert1988
            Albert1988 April 21 2020 18: 28 New
            +1
            Quote: Skalendarka
            DMB 75, in the year 68/69 I found a box of premium German crosses.

            I wonder who this "wealth" collected and hid the whole box ...
            1. Sklendarka
              Sklendarka April 21 2020 22: 02 New
              +2
              Quote: Albert1988
              Quote: Skalendarka
              DMB 75, in the year 68/69 I found a box of premium German crosses.

              I wonder who this "wealth" collected and hid the whole box ...

              No, no one collected, just in the village where my grandmother lived there was a German garrison.
              1. Albert1988
                Albert1988 April 22 2020 00: 19 New
                0
                Quote: Skalendarka
                No, no one collected, just in the village where my grandmother lived there was a German garrison.

                That is, the "owners" themselves have forgotten ...
            2. Looking for
              Looking for April 22 2020 17: 00 New
              -4
              "wealth" you say. Take your pants off. little puppy. yes whip
              1. Albert1988
                Albert1988 April 22 2020 18: 23 New
                0
                Quote: Seeker
                Take off your pants. Puppy. Yes flog

                You, dear, first of all, be so kind as you tell me - you and I did not drink to the Brudershaft, we are not relatives or good friends ...
                Yes, and words like "puppy" - leave it with you, if you please, otherwise throwing such definitions - this is very clearly indicating your level ...
                And pay attention - the word "wealth" is in quotation marks, I think you know what this sign means in Russian?
          2. Kushka
            Kushka April 21 2020 21: 54 New
            +2
            View footage with Suvorov (Rezun), as he is on May 9,
            in Berlin buys from OUR SELLERS (in Russian),
            number orders and medals of the Second World War.
            1. Albert1988
              Albert1988 April 22 2020 00: 20 New
              0
              Quote: Kushka
              View footage with Suvorov (Rezun), as he is on May 9,
              in Berlin buys from OUR SELLERS (in Russian),
              number orders and medals of the Second World War.

              This is its essence - buy-sell, like any traitor - he sold himself, now he only buys orders and medals ...
              1. Kushka
                Kushka April 22 2020 11: 51 New
                +2
                Everything has been said about Suvorov for a long time. I mean that RUSSIAN FISH (30 years,
                muzzle hoo) stands on the square at the Branderburg Gate on May 9.
                He has a half-bag of orders and medals of our grandfathers and fathers and the auction is on
                with might and main. Where did he get them? How did he get them ?. Why is he still alive?
                1. Looking for
                  Looking for April 22 2020 17: 03 New
                  -1
                  Here it is. Why is it STILL ALIVE !! ??
                2. Albert1988
                  Albert1988 April 22 2020 18: 26 New
                  +1
                  Quote: Kushka
                  I mean that RUSSIAN FISH (30 years,
                  muzzle hoo) stands on the square at the Branderburg Gate on May 9.
                  He has a half-bag of orders and medals of our grandfathers and fathers and the auction is on
                  with might and main. Where did he get them? How did he get them?

                  Here, unfortunately, there is a lot of sadness - recall the 90s - the early 00s - many veterans sold their awards, as the state placed them in inhuman conditions.
                  It was these muzzles that were engaged in buying and reselling. But HOW he took them out - I won’t tell you, I honestly don’t know how things are with this legislation now, I won’t exclude that it’s also sad ...
                  Quote: Kushka
                  Why is he still alive?

                  At least why not sitting - this is another sad topic - we have a lot of people who are evading deserved responsibility ...
        6. Peter is not the first
          Peter is not the first April 21 2020 21: 49 New
          +2
          Yes, Soviet education would not have allowed such mistakes to be made, but it had also not been possible due to the lack of wide access to foreign photos and video materials (we hadn’t heard about the Internet then), and the quality work of reviewers and editors who were not formally involved in checking materials published in print.
    4. Alex_Rarog
      Alex_Rarog April 21 2020 16: 19 New
      +4
      I’ve taken it straight from the tongue) victims of the Unified State Examination took advantage of the creative ... There’s no one to beat them ....
      1. Sky strike fighter
        Sky strike fighter April 21 2020 16: 26 New
        +1
        Your avatar is somehow anti-Soviet. If you don’t express it strongly. So someone consciously hangs up such posters with collaborators, sometimes mowing down victims of the USE.
        1. Mordvin 3
          Mordvin 3 April 21 2020 22: 33 New
          +2
          Quote: Sky Strike fighter
          Your avatar is somehow anti-Soviet.

          This is the star of Russia.
    5. tihonmarine
      tihonmarine April 21 2020 16: 26 New
      +2
      Quote: Sky Strike fighter
      The victims of the exam are not very clear where the winners are, and where the losers are.

      This is the worst. After 20 years, only the victims of the Unified State Examination will remain and only the vanquished.
      1. Sky strike fighter
        Sky strike fighter April 21 2020 16: 36 New
        +2
        The fact is that forgetting and not honoring the history of our ancestors (USSR) due to any complex changes in society, like the same perestroika, we end up risking losing the WWII backdating. For us, victory in WWII is for granted and we we believe that if so, then we don’t have to fight for it. And someone in the same Germany fights for the history of their ancestors, does not always condemn the bad deeds of Germany during WWII, and sometimes even defends them. They fight, but we don’t. As a result, we too calm in this regard.
      2. Albert1988
        Albert1988 April 22 2020 00: 22 New
        0
        Quote: tihonmarine
        This is the worst. After 20 years, only the victims of the Unified State Examination will remain and only the vanquished.

        Well, not everything is so scary - if over the past 20 years we have not been convinced that we are "losers", then there is still hope!
    6. RUSS
      RUSS April 21 2020 20: 15 New
      0
      Quote: Sky Strike fighter
      The victims of the exam are not very clear where the winners are, and where the losers are.

      This is not the point, just Victory for many is already very, something distant, "historical", etc.
    7. vkl.47
      vkl.47 April 21 2020 20: 18 New
      +1
      How simple they are ... error. 5 years old to give camps to everyone in the printing house and then (after 5 years) say "something like this ... error"
      1. Uruguay
        Uruguay April 21 2020 20: 33 New
        +2
        Quote: vkl.47
        How simple they are ... error. 5 years old to give camps to everyone in the printing house and then (after 5 years) say "something like this ... error"

        Yes, all of Russia would have applauded for this .. Well, how many such "mistakes" can you endure? After all, every year the same thing, the bastards are bullied and the noise is malicious .. soldier
    8. snake
      snake April 21 2020 22: 00 New
      +1
      Quote: Sky Strike fighter
      The victims of the exam are not very clear where the winners are, and where the losers are.

      Looking as и where winners and losers live, it’s no wonder and to get confused: who defeated whom ...
      1. Albert1988
        Albert1988 April 22 2020 00: 23 New
        +1
        Quote: serpent
        Looking at how and where the winners and the vanquished live, it is no wonder to get confused: who defeated whom ...

        Well, if, according to the results of the war, the USSR acted with the vanquished the way the vanquished wanted to do with the USSR, they would have lived diametrically opposite! hi
        1. Looking for
          Looking for April 22 2020 17: 05 New
          0
          Why not?
          1. Albert1988
            Albert1988 April 22 2020 18: 18 New
            0
            Quote: Seeker
            Why not?

            Why not what? Why didn’t they treat the Germans and others the way they wanted to do with us? Well, probably all the same because we are not Nazis like the aforementioned?
    9. Alex Justice
      Alex Justice April 22 2020 09: 52 New
      -1
      The victims of the exam are not very clear where the winners are, and where the losers are.

      What does the USE have to do with it, or is it about the USE students?
  2. Albert1988
    Albert1988 April 21 2020 15: 44 New
    22
    But it’s commonplace to introduce responsibility for something like propaganda of fascism with the corresponding articles and, very desirable, large fines, indifference will disappear immediately and the creative will go back on track ...
    And so there is no evil ...
    1. rocket757
      rocket757 April 21 2020 15: 52 New
      +8
      If you do not drive the officials under whom these design agencies sit, to one degree or another, there will be no sense! There will be theft of money and such dirty tricks always and everywhere.
      1. Albert1988
        Albert1988 April 21 2020 16: 12 New
        +5
        Quote: rocket757
        If you do not drive the officials under whom these design agencies sit, to one degree or another, there will be no sense!

        To begin with, at least fine and reprimand with the entry ...
        1. Uruguay
          Uruguay April 21 2020 16: 17 New
          +5
          Quote: Albert1988
          To begin with, at least fine and reprimand with the entry ...

          Yes, put a couple for insulting the feelings of WWII veterans .. Immediately this coven will stop!
          I feel these creative agents are being paid extra for such provocations and not a little ..
          1. Nehist
            Nehist April 22 2020 06: 35 New
            +3
            Then it is necessary to put the ROC and all together. Until now, in the Church of All Saints there is a monument to the 15th Cossack corps (they just forgot to mention that this is the 15th SS Cossack corps), and what surnames of the "eroev" are listed there, it is dear to see.
            1. Albert1988
              Albert1988 April 22 2020 18: 27 New
              +1
              Quote: Nehist
              Then it is necessary to plant the Russian Orthodox Church as a whole.

              At least put those who approved it!
        2. rocket757
          rocket757 April 21 2020 16: 48 New
          +1
          The fine will be recaptured, in one way or another, the reprimand is not welcome for them, but as a rule also pf-e.
          If it is proved that the order was transferred specifically from the agency, for personal gain, dismiss without the right, etc.
          This is already like a war for our common memory! Order number such and such, nowhere to retreat!
          1. Uruguay
            Uruguay April 21 2020 19: 50 New
            +3
            Quote: rocket757
            If it is proved that the order was transferred specifically from the agency, for personal gain, dismiss without the right, etc.

            It’s hard to prove, but you can dig where these posters come from, every year both the constant hype and mockery of us all goes ..
            Quote: rocket757
            This is already like a war for our common memory! Order number such and such, nowhere to retreat!

            This is the info war, the most rotten, when you can’t see the enemy, and he smiles all around you, etc. ..Here is our site to take for example .. hi
            1. rocket757
              rocket757 April 21 2020 20: 33 New
              +4
              It's okay to have your own opinion that is different from others! But to lie and provoke, this is .... it is clear that this cannot be completely avoided until everyone is forced to answer for the "bazaar".
              Times such concepts of honor and truth are purposefully ignored.
              The war for the minds and here we are going.
              1. Uruguay
                Uruguay April 21 2020 20: 40 New
                0
                Quote: rocket757
                Having a different opinion is normal! But lying and provoking, it ....

                Neoliberalism .. negative
                Quote: rocket757
                Times such concepts of honor and truth are purposefully ignored.
                The war for the minds and here we are going.

                The war is on and we are losing it .. hi
                1. rocket757
                  rocket757 April 21 2020 20: 45 New
                  +2
                  An army without a commander who is aiming for victory is doomed to the worst, even when it is very strong!
                  We cannot lose, we are not such a people, but the consequences will be terrible!
                  1. Uruguay
                    Uruguay April 21 2020 21: 02 New
                    0
                    Quote: rocket757
                    We cannot lose, we are not such a people, but the consequences will be terrible!

                    We don’t like to chat and PR, this is what everybody uses .. But if you make us angry, then it’s better to remain silent, otherwise they will be stomped right away by the crowd.

                    .
                    Quote: rocket757
                    An army without a commander who is aiming for victory is doomed to the worst, even when it is very strong!

                    The commander, something became cowardly with us, and the Army is gaining strength! hi
                    1. rocket757
                      rocket757 April 21 2020 21: 12 New
                      +1
                      The army, indeed, will not let anyone kick our country and remains whole after that. This is now obvious. And with the commander, he is moored by anchors to those who want too much personally for themselves and are not ready for others, for power. They are not offended by the state; they mainly have other interests.
          2. Albert1988
            Albert1988 April 22 2020 00: 25 New
            +2
            Quote: rocket757
            The fine will be beaten off, one way or another

            You do not know these people - they will strangle themselves for a penny, and if you regularly punish them for tidy amounts - they will think ...
            1. rocket757
              rocket757 April 22 2020 01: 11 New
              +2
              I know some, not very big rank, but very practical, bread.
              Now they have a temporary fear. They have it periodic!
              They know how to act in their own favor ... serious financial losses, most will stop, of course, BUT, the main fear is to fall out of the bureaucratic cage, i.e.
              1. Albert1988
                Albert1988 April 22 2020 18: 28 New
                +2
                Quote: rocket757
                BUT, the most important fear is to fall out of the bureaucracy, i.e.

                And this is a necessary measure for officials of ALL ranks! And then the main reason for the corruption of our elite is its inalienability, which became the reason for their complete impunity ...
                1. rocket757
                  rocket757 April 22 2020 19: 58 New
                  +1
                  Different methods are used in the world, cool and not very. For the most part this helps.
                  If an official does not feel any threat to his position, many will not work as they should.
    2. Sergey Valov
      Sergey Valov April 21 2020 15: 56 New
      +9
      You write the truth, that’s the way it is, only the leadership of these creators must be fined first and only they can cope with plankton.
    3. seti
      seti April 21 2020 16: 00 New
      +3
      I support - it's high time. And the fines are more significant so that the Wishlist was to spoil and the toad crushed.
      1. rocket757
        rocket757 April 21 2020 16: 51 New
        +5
        Dismiss officials, then the rest will think to whom to give orders and then check each letter!
        For an official, to lose access to the official feeding trough is the collapse of a life .... you have to go WORK!
    4. for
      for April 21 2020 16: 44 New
      -2
      Quote: Albert1988
      heavy fines

      "You will not love your Motherland, we will cut off the gas"
      All that capable of it is forced, and the most fashionable way of making money is fines, the goal is to root out Evil, Salvage.
      1. Albert1988
        Albert1988 April 21 2020 18: 10 New
        0
        Quote: for
        All that capable of it is forced, and the most fashionable way of making money is fines, the goal is to root out Evil, Salvage.

        Unfortunately, this is the only way to work with the existing contingent ...
  3. lucul
    lucul April 21 2020 15: 44 New
    10
    The reason that the poster was on the streets of the city was explained by a mistake. At the same time, the administration admitted that they approved the layout without even looking at it.

    Only draconian fines of 1 million rubles will undress this. They only worship money - that's the wallet and you have to beat them.
    Say wrong - then pay for the mistake ....
  4. Doccor18
    Doccor18 April 21 2020 15: 45 New
    13
    In the days of I. Stalin, these beguiled guys would be shot simply. And that’s all. So that others are not so easily mistaken.
    1. Albert1988
      Albert1988 April 21 2020 15: 49 New
      11
      Quote: Doccor18
      In the days of I. Stalin, these beguiled guys would be shot simply.

      In the days of Stalin, no one in their right mind would have been able to confuse, and who was not in their right mind would not have been allowed to work!
      1. Doccor18
        Doccor18 April 21 2020 16: 01 New
        -1
        Yes, there have been cases. So, the grandmother told, the corrector and the chief editor were put to the wall. They did not notice the error. Moved the name of the city of Leningrad.
        Lenin - transfer - bastard. The letter "r" was omitted. Lenin is a bastard. My grandmother worked as a proofreader assistant, she was 20 years old. They took pity on her, only worked for a month. If it had been longer, I would have gone after them.
        1. Albert1988
          Albert1988 April 21 2020 16: 02 New
          +1
          Well, this is already an example of an inflection, but here to deprive the award, and dismiss the boss - that would be fair ...
        2. martin-159
          martin-159 April 21 2020 17: 12 New
          +3
          I first read this terrible story in the Ogonyok magazine in the late eighties. Then again 5 in different interpretations and each time from eyewitnesses.
          1. Doccor18
            Doccor18 April 21 2020 20: 36 New
            -1
            I don’t know what you read and listened there 5 times from eyewitnesses ...
            My grandmother worked in the newspaper since 1949 and told me a lot about that difficult time. And to believe you or not to believe is everyone’s business.
            God forbid that neither me nor you would ever have to live in such a terrible time, where the price of one letter was equal to the price of two lives.
        3. 16329
          16329 April 21 2020 21: 23 New
          +1
          And under Stalin, they were shot for stowaway and smoking in the wrong place, the street goes to the red light for 10 years without the right to correspond
          Maybe stop writing all sorts of nonsense about that time
  5. rocket757
    rocket757 April 21 2020 15: 46 New
    +9
    Shaw say how to put it? even at a minimum, I want to say that all these design agencies are plankton ... moreover, orders are received ONLY OWN, which there is no one to even scold, because they are their own! A clear bundle, a soulless swaggering official and a "creative" plankton ...
  6. Pane Kohanku
    Pane Kohanku April 21 2020 15: 46 New
    +4
    WHO SUCH picks up posters to typeset? From what incubator do such mediocrities come out, that some that others ???
    1. Sergey Valov
      Sergey Valov April 21 2020 15: 53 New
      +5
      From which incubator? From our school, from general education!
    2. rocket757
      rocket757 April 21 2020 15: 54 New
      +4
      A place for "kraakl" bureaucratic gardens, which can no longer be attached anywhere else. Of course not money ah, but you don't need to do anything, the parent took care!
      1. Pane Kohanku
        Pane Kohanku April 21 2020 16: 18 New
        +4
        parent took care!

        You see, colleagues ... The Great Patriotic War for us is sacred in the national consciousness. And, as it were, mistakes are different. But sculpt outright nonsense - it's just too much! stop there must be some elementary responsibility ... hi
        1. rocket757
          rocket757 April 21 2020 17: 00 New
          +2
          If the parent understands that the offspring of offspring, he can lose his FAVORITE WORK !!! He certainly will see that everything was done as it should!
          If the official has siblings, talented designers, for example, they do everything AS WELL! Even if he gives it to me, this will not bother me anymore. Although, if an official violates something, such as the established rules for the sequence of transfer of orders for execution, between different agencies ... then everyone needs to comply with the rules or the competition, to be held forever !!!
          But this is possible only when the official is frightened and afraid of losing his feed and work!
          Clear, fair rules are needed, and no one should be able to violate them.
          This is what I, dreamed of nothing to do ... it happens.
          1. Pane Kohanku
            Pane Kohanku April 21 2020 17: 07 New
            +3
            This is what I, dreamed of nothing to do ... it happens.

            Yes, many would have dreamed about it, including me. Until then .. And yes - the "new know" represented by the next generation of leaders of all stripes. She has already been born, trained, and with might and main begins to enter politics and business. I am not saying anything, I am simply stating a fact as a phenomenon that will be, and which is already happening. hi
            1. rocket757
              rocket757 April 21 2020 18: 15 New
              +2
              In fact. Our company is not poor, the salaries of the bosses .... it is clear what.
              Three offspring, big bosses, weaned over the hill, even on the islands .... so what? We didn’t stay in the warm little towns for a short time, and two whistled out, one left himself, but he was NORMAL, he just really found a better place in the capital and everything is fine with him, I know that.
              Why? Because the REAL PRODUCTION and had to work, and not through the lip do not care at all.
              The officials like, but in different ways and there. While the parent is in force, the little one is in danger, and then ???
              I don’t know how where, but it’s very difficult to endure this swaggering public, and working under them is just longing! One hope that this is not for long .... as often happens.
              1. Uruguay
                Uruguay April 21 2020 18: 27 New
                -1
                Quote: rocket757
                I don’t know how where, but it’s very difficult to endure this swaggering public, and working under them is just longing! One hope that this is not for long .... as often happens.

                Yes, everywhere so, knowledge of all kinds of superficial Oxford and Cambridge knowledge will be accumulated .. And in fact, full zeros in production and trade, etc.
                Previously, as far as the directors of plants and factories and others reached, until all the steps have passed, well, of course you had to be a party .. Know the essence of production from the basics and how and what is done .. And now effeminate boys come under dad and start to teach .. Ugh damn already disgusting, as it is worn out by all at large enterprises of the country, engineers and other masters
                1. rocket757
                  rocket757 April 21 2020 18: 33 New
                  +5
                  In real production there are fewer of them all, because you have to work there. And according to different structures, there are many more loafers. This is a fact that is no longer just annoying, it is becoming just dangerous!
                  1. Uruguay
                    Uruguay April 21 2020 19: 38 New
                    +2
                    Quote: rocket757
                    In real production there are fewer of them all, because you have to work there

                    The older generation is already working with the last bit of strength, and there is no one to pass on the experience .. (some managers, economists, lawyers and other "kretivy" ugh damn ..
                    Quote: rocket757
                    This is a fact that is no longer just annoying, it is becoming just dangerous!

                    It’s very dangerous and it’s not in vain that so many whiners have divorced, because Russia needs to be restored, and for this it will be necessary to work not on the keyboard and office table .. But really hard male labor in the vast expanses of the motherland launched ..! soldier
                    1. rocket757
                      rocket757 April 21 2020 19: 47 New
                      +2
                      To work in real production, you need to have a specialized education or undergo training. Too many are willing to be able to do nothing, do nothing, but studying, studying, studying and then getting a salary is not so fat, it’s difficult and I don’t want to. Unfortunately, in real factories this problem exists ... if you get a little, then do nothing. Damaging logic, but it is very tenacious.
                      There is a vicious circle and the flawed logic of the same employers and much more! In addition, capitalism in the yard and behind the fence there were more applicants for a decent salary, but there were only craftsmen who at least had some complicated work that required relevant knowledge, oh how diminished !!! Again a vicious circle.
    3. polar fox
      polar fox April 21 2020 16: 41 New
      +4
      Quote: Pane Kohanku
      WHO SUCH picks up posters to typeset? From what incubator do such mediocrities come out, that some that others ???

      that they are freely available in tyrnete.to and draw on placards. For a photo of the USSR, the State Consumer Inspection will quickly write out an invoice ... so that the Vlasovites and the "adjoining" ones really won.
  7. Azazelo
    Azazelo April 21 2020 15: 46 New
    +3
    When will all these parasites start firing? ...
    1. lucul
      lucul April 21 2020 15: 47 New
      +3
      When will all these parasites start firing? ...

      You can’t be accused of anti-Semitism .....
      1. Looking for
        Looking for April 22 2020 17: 08 New
        0
        and for the "holy cause" you can suffer.
  8. Van 16
    Van 16 April 21 2020 15: 47 New
    +4
    I had no doubt that there would be anything like that. It's a question of time. I'm afraid not the last time.
    1. lucul
      lucul April 21 2020 15: 51 New
      +5
      I had no doubt that there would be anything like that. It's a question of time. I'm afraid not the last time.

      These are Overton windows - test our reaction ....
    2. Azazelo
      Azazelo April 21 2020 15: 52 New
      +7
      Yes, complete. 10 years ago on the Kiev highway near Moscow there was a pearl with the inscription "65 years of victory - 65 years of peace" as if Avgan, Tajikistan and Chechnya had forgotten .... the dogs are stooped.
  9. Knizhnik
    Knizhnik April 21 2020 15: 51 New
    +4
    Because these pictures are "googled" and claimed by ignoramuses
  10. iouris
    iouris April 21 2020 15: 52 New
    +3
    This is not "creative", but treason in the form of going over to the side of the geopolitical enemy.
  11. 1536
    1536 April 21 2020 15: 53 New
    +3
    All these "mistakes" acquire some ominous meaning on the eve of Victory Day.
  12. Zaurbek
    Zaurbek April 21 2020 15: 56 New
    +2
    Designers are young people ...
  13. Olegater
    Olegater April 21 2020 15: 59 New
    +4
    Why are you surprised?
    Dear forum users, you are also told that there is a systematic work to turn us and our children into slaves who do not know their history. The decunization and the blackening of all Soviet. Countries, achievements, victories, greatness.
    Recently I wrote to a member of the forum DEPRESSANT. We will see many more "interesting" in the sense of the negative to the day of the great Victory! Here you are. The closer the great day, the more active the traitors will be. And stop calling these traitors Calabrationists. The enemy and the traitor are on the same side and only has this name. No matter the time. Then explicit, and now hidden. Polished and obsequious. Miscarriages of the Unified State Exam - the boob educational system. Moreover, this muck appeared in the Leningrad region. There, where the city of Lenin withstood the blockade against this Europash.
    1. Oleg Zorin
      Oleg Zorin April 21 2020 16: 07 New
      +2
      A traitor is a person who has changed his oath. These humanoid ones (both customers and performers) did not swear anything to anyone. They have no ideals and beliefs. One instinct is to eat deliciously and ... multiply. All.
      1. Olegater
        Olegater April 21 2020 16: 10 New
        +2
        And what difference did they take the oath or not? You live in Russia so be a normal person, at least study history. And hanging these traitors on display at such a date is a betrayal. Their homeland and their parents.
      2. tatra
        tatra April 21 2020 19: 14 New
        +1
        But what, the collaborators of the Civil and Great Patriotic War praised by the Russian enemies of the Communists, who collaborated with the occupiers of their homeland — the interventionists and Nazis — are not traitors? But Solzhenitsyn, who called on the Americans to attack the Soviet people, is not a traitor?
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  15. Lord of the Sith
    Lord of the Sith April 21 2020 16: 05 New
    +9
    The designer is most likely a girl who understands soldiers, uniforms and techniques like a locksmith in ballet.
    But for such a hat it is necessary to give.
  16. yasvet
    yasvet April 21 2020 16: 19 New
    +1
    It seems that this is to blame, on the one hand, for the excessive “creativity” of designers, and on the other, for the startling indifference of the local authorities responsible for organizing the celebrations.


    Judging by the circulation data, the posters were printed by the municipal informational institution of the city of Lomonosov “Information Center” in the amount of 20 copies.

    “Yes, we know about it. We have already replaced everything [posters] today, ”said the lady, who picked up the phone at the reception of the head of the local administration, Alexander Semenov. He, according to her, is currently on sick leave and cannot comment on the situation.

    “This is not the local administration, this is our subordinate institution, there is a designer there, which means she made a mistake,” the source said. To the question of why no one noticed this error, she added: “And who saw the layout? What do you think, here the whole commission is going to approve it? ”(C)

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    1. Barmaleyka
      Barmaleyka April 21 2020 16: 22 New
      +1
      Quote: yasvet
      “And who saw the layout? What do you think, here the whole commission is going to approve it? ”(C)

      it is in such institutions that they gather, they even agree on the signs on the door through the "bad advice", he himself has come across this more than once ...
  17. Barmaleyka
    Barmaleyka April 21 2020 16: 21 New
    -1
    each time the same thing, the victims of modern education at all stages, from the editor and the printer to the customer and designer
  18. parusnik
    parusnik April 21 2020 16: 25 New
    +4
    And for every May 9, similar errors from year to year .. and throughout Russia .. The tradition ...
  19. Maks1995
    Maks1995 April 21 2020 16: 27 New
    +1
    Ah, however, capitalism.
    Faster, cheaper, and more.
    If a Tajik student did, it’s good that they didn’t make other mistakes ...

    I remind you: In MOSCOW itself, to Kalashnikov himself, they managed to attach a drawing of a GERMAN assault rifle to a monument .......
    Then they really changed ...
    1. Barmaleyka
      Barmaleyka April 21 2020 16: 48 New
      +2
      Quote: Max1995
      If a Tajik student did

      what has a Tajik, probably quite a Russian girl, would not be surprised if she has a higher education, she just has a German helmet, a Soviet one, a German "mallet", that RGD 33 all look the same
      she stupidly looked for a picture with a suitable resolution, with a sin she found in half, and who was not so important to her, the same whim was a customer, she looked that everything looked beautiful and signed for print.
      1. Maks1995
        Maks1995 April 21 2020 17: 43 New
        -7
        Maybe so.
        But now there are plenty of "non-Russians" too ...
        Half of the photos on the poster with oriental eyes .... Coincidence? I don’t think ....
  20. APASUS
    APASUS April 21 2020 16: 30 New
    +2
    Here are the results of modern education reform, just poke buttons on your computer and EVERYTHING! History is known only according to the words of a neighbor on the desk. Even to find and find out a photo that the brain is depicted
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  21. Shadow
    Shadow April 21 2020 16: 30 New
    +2
    Where do they only get the "specialists" who make up the posters? The average visitor to any historical forum will pick up an image much more competently.
  22. 7,62h54
    7,62h54 April 21 2020 16: 39 New
    +2
    Girls-designers give out the next portion of pearls. I bet that not a single case will be started, and even more - they will pay for the work done.
    1. Barmaleyka
      Barmaleyka April 21 2020 16: 56 New
      -2
      Quote: 7,62x54
      I bet that not a single case will be started, and even more - they will pay for the work done.

      1. what is the matter and on the basis of what
      2. if the client has signed a sketch of the layout (not a single printing house will ever put a non-agreed layout into print), then they will pay as nice
  23. veritas
    veritas April 21 2020 16: 49 New
    +4
    the bottom of the central places on it was taken by a photograph of the Idel-Ural legion who fought against the Red Army on the side of the Nazis.


    It seems that this is to blame, on the one hand, for the excessive “creativity” of designers, and on the other, for the startling indifference of the local authorities responsible for organizing the celebrations.

    If for such a creative fined for serious, then it would be less. But apparently they don’t think that our grandfathers need to be fined for spitting in the back.
    1. Barmaleyka
      Barmaleyka April 21 2020 17: 02 New
      -1
      Quote: veritas
      If for such a creative fined for serious

      can you name the article by which you can be fined?
      1. veritas
        veritas April 21 2020 20: 28 New
        +3
        Quote: Barmaleyka
        Quote: veritas
        If for such a creative fined for serious

        can you name the article by which you can be fined?

        So what do lawmakers get a lot of money for? It's time to prepare a bill.
        1. Barmaleyka
          Barmaleyka April 21 2020 21: 12 New
          0
          Well, there are enough idiots in the Duma, but thank God, you have not thought of such senility as you suggest
          it’s not necessary to invent idiotic laws, but to stop the young generation in schools and universities
  24. for
    for April 21 2020 16: 50 New
    0
    First of all, cutting off your hands is who allowed them to bid, who gave them to win, who paid for the order.
  25. Grass
    Grass April 21 2020 16: 51 New
    -1
    That's where the victims of the exam.
    In our country in 89-90 of the last century, a veteran with a blue eye rubbed at schoolchildren before May 8, as he and his comrades in August 1941 knocked out a German tiger from forty.
    So one older student, apparently a history buff, began to haul him around the table with his physics over tigers, forty-fives and schmeissers. The veteran almost got a heart attack. The scandal was all about. If it weren’t at the end of 80, it’s for sure that the boy was kicked out of school.
    So this participant in the hostilities doesn’t know the story, otherwise some corrector
    1. Barmaleyka
      Barmaleyka April 21 2020 17: 08 New
      -2
      Quote: Grass
      and then some kind of corrector

      Well, you don’t know who the corrector is, by the way I think that ANY Soviet schoolchild will visually distinguish the German helmet SSH-40
      1. Grass
        Grass April 21 2020 17: 29 New
        -1
        Most likely the corrector and typesetter there is no longer a Soviet school student. Years go by.
        You do not really understand the difference in the headgear of the hussar regiments of the war of 1812. And what are you fined for or in jail?
        You just have to be careful.
        1. Barmaleyka
          Barmaleyka April 21 2020 17: 43 New
          -2
          Quote: Grass
          Most likely the corrector and typesetter there is no longer a Soviet school student. Years go by.

          I’ll tell you more about typesetters, in principle, they don’t work anywhere else, and in principle there are no proofreaders in simple printing houses
          Quote: Grass
          You do not really understand the difference in the headgear of the hussar regiments of the war of 1812.

          Well kba if there is a little temporary difference
  26. fa2998
    fa2998 April 21 2020 16: 51 New
    +2
    Quote: DMB 75
    This would not have happened in the Soviet Union. The educational system would not have allowed such indecency.

    In the Soviet Union there was such a position as a military consultant. Of course, the position was free, you can earn money for retirees, but such "opuses" did not appear. They are saving money. hi
    1. Barmaleyka
      Barmaleyka April 21 2020 17: 09 New
      -1
      Quote: fa2998
      In the Soviet Union there was such a post-military consultant.

      in printing houses ?!
      do not make me laugh
  27. pexotinec
    pexotinec April 21 2020 16: 53 New
    0
    Yes, it’s not casual that all these errors have appeared, there is a specific task to rewrite history
    1. Shadow
      Shadow April 21 2020 16: 55 New
      0
      Assignment for "effective use" of funds allocated for the preparation for the anniversary. We entrusted the case to the secretary, and reported on the involvement of a team of experts.
    2. Barmaleyka
      Barmaleyka April 21 2020 17: 10 New
      0
      Quote: pexotinec
      Yes, it’s not casual that all these errors have appeared, there is a specific task to rewrite history

      don’t suffer from nonsense, unlike you, the printed kitchen has already been inside for a quarter of a century, an open blunder that everyone missed, and the designer girl is stupid, however, the customer signed it in print again, and screaming about sabotage is a frank shiz
  28. Fedorovich
    Fedorovich April 21 2020 17: 09 New
    +5
    "Something you have all the typos against the Soviet regime" (c) "Deputy of the Baltic".
    1. L-39NG
      L-39NG April 21 2020 17: 44 New
      -2
      Do you live in modern Russia under Soviet rule?
  29. The comment was deleted.
    1. L-39NG
      L-39NG April 21 2020 18: 03 New
      -1
      Previously, there were fewer parades, they were held in 1945, 1965, 1985 and 1990, and then, people had to be foolish - so every year.
      Thanks to my grandfather for the victory, Mercedes - my trophies from Germany. In 2020, it is not necessary to celebrate, but to be ashamed that the defeated are feeding the "winner". The defeated have long ago become the foremost, and the "winner" as it was and remained in the "catching up"
  30. Graz
    Graz April 21 2020 17: 48 New
    0
    that the layout was approved without even looking at it.
    _____________________
    irresponsibility, no one is responsible for anything, it was too lazy to tear off and delve into the essence of the issue
  31. Local from the Volga
    Local from the Volga April 21 2020 18: 12 New
    +3


    where to figure it out ... the advertising budget!
  32. peter mechkaev
    peter mechkaev April 21 2020 18: 18 New
    +2
    And why was this event in Kaluga presented here in 2016 as an event in Lomonosov? Or in the "Voennoye Obozreniye" are the same stupid "Kolya boys" ??? https://mediarepost.ru/news/24076-kaluzhskih-reklamschikov-poslali-uchit-istoriyu-vov-za-plakat-s-fashistom.html
  33. regdan
    regdan April 21 2020 18: 35 New
    -6
    Putin's regime in all its glory ...
  34. Gennady Fomkin
    Gennady Fomkin April 21 2020 18: 37 New
    -1
    It is worth looking at the "gifted", "creative" creators and authors, with names and surnames laughing
  35. Gennady Fomkin
    Gennady Fomkin April 21 2020 18: 38 New
    -1
    Quote: L-39NG
    Previously, there were fewer parades, they were held in 1945, 1965, 1985 and 1990, and then, people had to be foolish - so every year.
    Thanks to my grandfather for the victory, Mercedes - my trophies from Germany. In 2020, it is not necessary to celebrate, but to be ashamed that the defeated are feeding the "winner". The defeated have long ago become the foremost, and the "winner" as it was and remained in the "catching up"

    Does Merkel feed you? laughing Congratulations to you .......... well, who understood. Posts 0 you are a troll.
  36. Gennady Fomkin
    Gennady Fomkin April 21 2020 18: 42 New
    -2
    Quote: Max1995
    Maybe so.
    But now there are plenty of "non-Russians" too ...
    Half of the photos on the poster with oriental eyes .... Coincidence? I don’t think ....

    How are posts paid to you? laughing
  37. Gennady Fomkin
    Gennady Fomkin April 21 2020 18: 43 New
    -1
    Quote: Barmaleyka
    Quote: veritas
    If for such a creative fined for serious

    can you name the article by which you can be fined?

    But to find out who the customer was worth.
  38. prist4017
    prist4017 April 21 2020 18: 44 New
    0
    What to do! around the managers already fall victims EG. It's only the beginning!!
  39. tuts
    tuts April 21 2020 18: 46 New
    0
    "D_e_b_i_l_y ..."

  40. ljoha_d
    ljoha_d April 21 2020 18: 57 New
    +1
    The farther the dumber the people
  41. Old Horseradish
    Old Horseradish April 21 2020 19: 02 New
    0
    Where is the USSR now? Where are the Soviet people now? And where is the friendship between the Soviet peoples now? In fact, they won the Great Patriotic War, if anyone forgot.
    "Having lost their head, they don't cry for their hair"
  42. Kushka
    Kushka April 21 2020 19: 02 New
    +2
    I read the memoirs of a Soviet functionary poet (such as Korotich),
    made fun of. In one clogged district center in a printing house (barn) in the dark
    (at night) the old typesetter mixed up the zinc cliché (all in mastic) and on
    in the morning instead of the deceased member of the Politburo, the obituary came out with a photo of the living.
    Early in the morning in the regional party they call from Moscow itself (!) - the secretary is still
    in your underpants - your toes. He takes the retinue, the KGB and blows into the area.
    Local police (via mail) in an hour figured out all the recipients and seized
    at the same time explaining the entire circulation (to the last copy) to the recipients,
    that they’ve never seen such a number. Head printing houses (also a grandfather, a hero
    civilian) already before lunch they kicked out of the CPSU and removed from work.
    Through time there was a round date for the BOP. All old participants solemnly
    handed a commemorative medal (except for him). A group of old Bolsheviks wrote
    to the Central Committee that their comrade, the hero of the BOR and the civil, oldest Bolshevik of the region
    (who was with Lenin on you and generally happened ahead of Chapaev on a dashing horse ...)
    so unjustly offended.
    Early in the morning, a call to the regional committee from the Central Committee, a half-bucket enema with gramophone needles.
    Secretary, takes the retinue, the KGB and the area. All involved in an enema in two buckets,
    with slate nails. Grandfather was immediately solemnly reinstated in the CPSU,
    in office and presented an anniversary award.
    1. for
      for April 22 2020 01: 29 New
      0
      Quote: Kushka
      I read the memoirs of a Soviet functionary poet (such as Korotich),
      made fun of.

      Some kind of collection of jokes taken obviously not from life. And about V.O.R. then a tattoo image of Lenin signed by V.O.R. The leader of the October Revolution.
      1. Kushka
        Kushka April 22 2020 11: 47 New
        0
        Maybe so. But this is not what I came up with. This is from the memoirs of Ivan Drach,
        who for many years was the chief editor of the central party
        printed organs, poet, writer, laureate, etc.
  43. Prisoner
    Prisoner April 21 2020 19: 09 New
    0
    It is high time to introduce criminal liability for such "shoals". It seems to us that it is becoming a bad habit to demand memory from Poles, Czechs and Bulgarians, while we ourselves either do not know our own history at all, or we forget. Shame!
  44. IL-64
    IL-64 April 21 2020 19: 32 New
    +1
    It’s just a modern level of education.
  45. evgen1221
    evgen1221 April 21 2020 20: 00 New
    +1
    Yes, definitely since such (bloopers) regularly appear by the Victory Day, then this is already a system. As possible, the wrecking factor is conscious. For example, a ban on shooting stray dogs. Now flocks of 7-10 animals really roam a lot around the city, and this for a moment is both peddlers of infection and danger to children as well as a factor of irritation and dissatisfaction with the authorities. And to prove that this is not a wrecking prospect is futile.
    1. Sniper Amateur
      Sniper Amateur April 21 2020 22: 57 New
      +1
      Some observers from among the orthodox “patriots” consider the Moscow and Kaliningrad scandals to be the result of a planned provocation aimed at mocking the patriotic feelings of citizens on the eve of the holiday. This, of course, is not so. Most likely, it’s just a matter of sloppiness of computer typesetters, randomly extracting images from the photobanks using the keyword “tank” or “ship”. But still there is reason to think. When patriotism is transformed from a normal, natural human feeling into work (moreover, a clearly unloved work), into the line of another “program of patriotic education,” such incidents are inevitable. In fact, the coder says, what difference does it make - a Russian tank or a German one. Today you need to make up another ten layouts, and it will be much more unpleasant to make a mistake in the name of the advertised product or phone number. No emotions, just work.

      http://www.globalrus.ru/print_this/780383/
      Date of publication - 22.02.2006.
  46. primaala
    primaala April 21 2020 21: 20 New
    -3
    At the information stand in the city of Lomonosov, Leningrad Region, a poster “General victory - common memory” appeared. One of the central places on it was taken by a photograph of the Idel-Ural legion who fought against the Red Army on the side of the Nazis.
    ============================
    Here is YOU and the indicator, YOUR SHIT. If a site called "Military Review" ALLOWS "minus players" to humiliate the correct Russians, then what are we talking about ??? What are we discussing ???
    WHO is judged ??? And who are the judges ???
  47. Sniper Amateur
    Sniper Amateur April 21 2020 22: 48 New
    0
    where English soldiers of the times of World War I were depicted in characteristic cork helmets.

    In the "characteristic cork-raccoon helmets" - "tommy", kangaroo and kiwi - they also ran during the Second World War. And long after. Until the end of the 1960s in some places.
    But in general - an ordinary stupid typesetter stupidly pulls out the first one that comes from Ineta.
  48. Angelo Provolone
    Angelo Provolone April 22 2020 00: 17 New
    0
    VO, so you're not just in the subject. We must follow the latest trends. Ideology is changing and with your "devastating articles, you can grab it" in the pope. "
    Watch where the wind blows carefully:
    1. Alex Justice
      Alex Justice April 22 2020 10: 35 New
      0
      That those that others, one field a berry. The differences are only in ideology.
  49. Gennady Fomkin
    Gennady Fomkin April 22 2020 03: 17 New
    -1
    Quote: ljoha_d
    The farther the dumber the people

    Do you consider yourself smart? Are you sick of megalomania? laughing
  50. Gennady Fomkin
    Gennady Fomkin April 22 2020 03: 19 New
    -1
    Quote: primaala
    At the information stand in the city of Lomonosov, Leningrad Region, a poster “General victory - common memory” appeared. One of the central places on it was taken by a photograph of the Idel-Ural legion who fought against the Red Army on the side of the Nazis.
    ============================
    Here is YOU and the indicator, YOUR SHIT. If a site called "Military Review" ALLOWS "minus players" to humiliate the correct Russians, then what are we talking about ??? What are we discussing ???
    WHO is judged ??? And who are the judges ???

    . So do not worry about tomorrow, for
    tomorrow will take care of his own: quite
    for every day of their care. 7
    . Judge not lest ye be judged,