On the reason for the single-shot sniper rifle SVLK-14C "Twilight"

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Almost all armies of the world are armed with sniper rifles. With their help, effective destruction of enemy personnel and equipment at long distances is ensured.

Requirements for the firing range in modern conditions are growing, and therefore the demand for single-shot sniper rifles is increasing. The world record in firing range among single-shot sniper rifles belongs to the famous Russian “Twilight” - this is the name of the SVLK-14S sniper rifle. It was developed in the Russian Federation in 2012 by specialists of the company Vladislav Lobaev, which has long specialized in the development and pilot production of high-precision sniper rifles.



SVLK-14S is specially manufactured in a single-shot version, as this allows you to provide the receiver stiffness required for ultra-long range shooting, as well as modularity and changeability of calibers.

As tests show, the rifle demonstrates outstanding shooting results at ranges of more than 2 kilometers. In 2017, a record was set - hitting from a distance of 4210 meters. Magazine rifles are distinguished by much more modest achievements in terms of firing range.

The receiver "Twilight" is made of aviation aluminum and high alloy stainless steel. At the same time, the new SVLK-14S model has a multilayer bed made of Kevlar, carbon fiber and fiberglass. These characteristics make it possible to achieve high range. weapons and its highest precision. The shutter of the SVLK-14S sniper rifle was also made of solid corrosion-resistant steel.


Many experts argue that at present the Lobaev’s rifle is out of competition in terms of precision firing, there are no more such weapons in the world. The characteristics of the domestic sniper rifle are not only not inferior, but far superior to the characteristics of foreign sniper weapons.

For example, the famous American CheyTac M200 rifle “Intervention” (a rifle with a magazine) shows accuracy much worse than accuracy of the SVLK-14S rifle (Russian rifle accuracy of 0,2MOA for a group of 5 shots). At the same time, experts believe that in the foreseeable future there will not be similar rifles in the world that can demonstrate equally high accuracy rates, and even under the 408 Cheytac cartridge. As you can see, the fact that the SVLK-14S rifle belongs to the class of single-shot sniper rifles, provided it with certain advantages over rifles with "store" ammunition. The fact is that “Dusk” is a sniper weapon for those cases when a second shot is most likely not needed. And if it is needed, it can hardly be successful - because the target is at a very great distance to continue to remain open for a new shot, immediately following the first. In this embodiment, the "store" ammunition simply loses its meaning. This is the main reason for the singly charged "Twilight".

According to some reports, now SVLK-14S rifles are in service with special forces of the Federal Security Service of the Russian Federation, as well as special forces of the United Arab Emirates army.
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  1. +3
    April 21 2020 14: 40
    The rifle may be good, but the RF Ministry of Defense will never buy one ... Foreigners may well. The situation, as with the RPG-32 (as they usually write, has no analogs) ..)))))) In the Russian army, yes. But Jordanians deliver to anyone you want (either in Libya, then in Yemen they flicker) ..
    1. +8
      April 21 2020 14: 48
      Why is she MO? That was????
    2. +19
      April 21 2020 14: 49
      Quote: V.I.P.
      The rifle may be good, but the RF Ministry of Defense will never buy one

      We’ll be honest, MO, and it is not particularly needed. 4 kilometer sniper shooting is a pure sport; in combat conditions it is very difficult to imagine a situation where such a shot would be feasible. For distances of a kilometer and a half, you can find cheaper weapons, under the more common ammunition (.338 Lapua?).
      1. 0
        April 22 2020 05: 46
        Quote: Kalmar
        in combat conditions it is very difficult to imagine a situation where such a shot would be feasible.
        But why? You can imagine anything. But for such shots there is STBSV:
      2. 0
        16 June 2020 07: 09
        At 4 km. This is in combat incredible. 1.5-2 km. For a sure hit, maximum.
    3. +1
      April 21 2020 14: 51
      Quote: V.I.P.
      (as usual they have no analogs).

      When I hear this, I just want to "invent" something "that has no analogue in the world", but nafig nobody needs it even for nothing laughing
  2. +2
    April 21 2020 14: 44
    sniper weapons for those cases when a repeated shot, most likely no longer needed.

    This is how it should be. To work. Without any "control in the head"
    Serious car good
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    2. +1
      April 21 2020 14: 59
      Without "burning" it will still not work. So it is necessary to execute at least 2 shots.
      1. 0
        April 21 2020 15: 07
        I wanted to insert a photo.
        1. +4
          April 21 2020 15: 12
          This is a rifle based on the BARNARD-P bolt action. The receiver is single-shot, steel, without aluminum. True, the caliber is much smaller (308 and 6,5x55). The rifle was assembled back in 2009, February. So Lobaev did not invent anything new. Carbon stock with aluminum tire (Robertson), Montana barrels. "Heap" 0,14MOA.
          1. +1
            April 21 2020 15: 45
            Quote: Genie
            So Lobaev did not invent anything new.

            And in the article this was not claimed! No sooner said than - designed and manufactured! Inventing and developing is not the same thing. hi
            1. -5
              April 21 2020 16: 42
              Here they start to sort out the propaganda throw-in, and it turns out that not a million, but a thousand, not into the lottery, but into cards, did not win, but lost
              1. +1
                April 21 2020 16: 49
                foreign spy (John

                Are you by any chance not from the 83rd Center of the IPSO SSO APU Landless? wassat
              2. 0
                25 May 2020 23: 08
                ))
                - He shot, firstly, not cherries, but currants, when they flew over him
                home.
                - The Bears?
                - Well, not mammoths!
      2. +1
        April 21 2020 15: 15
        And if you immediately hit the head?
      3. 0
        16 June 2020 07: 10
        The correct remark is immediately and to the point!
  3. +5
    April 21 2020 15: 07
    In 2017, a record was set - hitting from a distance of 4210 meters.

    But will the author tell me from what shot and target what size this sports record was achieved?
    1. +2
      April 21 2020 15: 11
      Quote: Amateur
      But will the author tell me from what shot and target what size this sports record was achieved?

      They say the target was meter per meter. With what shot - could not be found. However, this is a single-shot rifle, any shot is always the first))
      1. -2
        April 21 2020 15: 13
        They say the target was meter per meter

        Somewhere 1x1, and somewhere in general 1x2 meters.
        It’s strange that advertising specialists haven’t come up with a “mulion to mulion” target yet. Then any shot from any distance is a bull's-eye.
        1. +2
          April 21 2020 15: 36
          Quote: Amateur
          It’s strange that advertising specialists haven’t come up with a “mulion to mulion” target yet. Then any shot from any distance is a bull's-eye.

          Given the distance, even 1x2m is very cool. Say, OSV-96, which was also conceived, including as a long-range one, it hit the 1x1m shield with very great difficulty already from 1000m.
          Then, the speech, as you yourself noted, is about a sports record; the size of the target, I believe, is the stipulations of the rules of this sport.
          1. +5
            April 21 2020 15: 41
            You are absolutely right about the rules of the sport. You just don't have to confuse combat sniper weapons and sports weapons. These are very different things. And the author of the article lumps everything into one heap. And some commentators were going to hit it "right in the head"
            1. +1
              April 21 2020 16: 31
              Quote: Amateur
              And some commentators were going to hit it "right in the head"
              Actually, I was not going to go anywhere. About getting into the head, I asked Potou that a shot directly into the head can always be
              Will a sniper always shoot at 4 km?
              And if the goal is much closer?
              Do not hit the extreme
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      2. 0
        April 21 2020 18: 33
        1m to 1m. In the Tula region on the border with Kaluga. I watched a video once. And the distance of 4180 m was like. Cloudy. I don’t remember the temperature, but not the heat.
    2. 0
      April 21 2020 15: 39
      Quote: Amateur
      with what shot and target of what size was this sport record made?

      hi
      From the SVLK-14 "Twilight" rifle they shot at a range of 4210 meters.
      The group of champions was led by sniper Andrei Ryabinsky.
      They say that this is a new world record in the range of fire from a sniper rifle.
      The manufacturer posted the news on October 03, 2017

      On the official channel I found a shot at 3400 m.
      Hit: strictly in the center, bottommost.

      1. +2
        April 22 2020 13: 51
        Quote: Mister X
        3400 m shot
        Hit: strictly in the center, bottommost.

        Right. And this does not mean anything at all. One-shot hit is an accident. For a more or less reliable determination of accuracy and accuracy, you need to make at least 20 shots.
        1. 0
          April 22 2020 14: 06
          Quote: Svateev
          One-shot hit is an accident.

          I am not a sniper. I don't know about you.
          I think it’s worth looking for reviews of snipers in foreign media: what do they think about this.

          What do you think about victories in competitions?
          If he won once, it doesn’t count?
          So what?
          1. +1
            April 22 2020 14: 13
            Quote: Mister X
            If he won once, it doesn’t count?

            This is an absentee competition, more advertising than a reliable comparison of performance characteristics.
            But this is also necessary, where without advertising?
            But in general, Lobaev - well done!
            1. +2
              April 22 2020 14: 18
              Quote: Svateev
              But this is also necessary, where without advertising?

              I agree. I myself am engaged in Wh and promotion.
              Quote: Svateev
              But in general, Lobaev - well done!

              The whole team of Lobaev - well done!
              How much would he do alone? wink
    3. +2
      April 21 2020 15: 46
      Quote: Amateur
      In 2017, a record was set - hitting from a distance of 4210 meters.

      But will the author tell me from what shot and target what size this sports record was achieved?

      Dok.film on the Star showed about this record.
      1. +5
        April 21 2020 15: 49
        Dok.film on the Star showed about this record.

        I saw this film, therefore, I asked the author of the article a question. But unfortunately only Timokhin and Shpakovsky follow comments on their articles.
    4. +2
      April 21 2020 16: 03
      Please
      1. 0
        April 22 2020 14: 14
        Quote: seti
        Please

        Well, where is the 4210 m shot in your video?
        1. 0
          April 22 2020 15: 04
          Take a look here
          Read here: https://rg.ru/2019/11/28/v-kromeshnoj-tme-rossijskij-strelok-ustanovil-novyj-mirovoj-rekord.html
          1. +3
            April 22 2020 15: 56
            Quote: seti
            Take a look here

            Excuse me, could you indicate in the video the time where the hit on 4210 m is shown?
            26:40 - time passes, but snipers cannot find a target
            26:45 - the wind subsides, and the trajectory changes dramatically
            26:50 - the trouble is that the wind is changing, its strength varies at different heights
            27:02 - show the trajectory
            27:49 - describe how the sight is set
            27:11 - the record did not work
            Further, Mr. Lobaev reports that it took 10 months to prepare the shot, describes a new cartridge.
            After - the transition to ASVK, and then a shot at night at a distance from a distance of 2 km.
      2. 0
        April 22 2020 21: 16
        Is it just a sniper shot? From the second participant with a ballistic calculator and a barometer depends no less laughing
    5. 0
      April 21 2020 16: 47
      Search YouTube on the STAR channel. Not from the first shot, for sure.
  4. +1
    April 21 2020 15: 11
    This is a toy from the category of records, no one drives a supersonic car.

    why not make a rifle under 14,5? could have pulled for 5 km.
    1. +1
      April 21 2020 15: 38
      Quote: Tuzik
      why not make a rifle under 14,5? could have pulled for 5 km.

      Hardly. It is necessary not only to throw a bullet for 5 km, but also to hit. And 14.5 - it is no longer about "far and to the point", but about "not far, but right through."
    2. +2
      April 21 2020 15: 56
      There are rifles of caliber 14.5 * 114 - truvelo CHS, Anzino Mag Fed Rifle, - USA; Azerbaijan - IST "istigal"; Ukraine - "Snipex"; Hungary -Gepard M3 and M6; Cuba - Mambi 1; Iran -Saher "; Kurdistan - Zagros
      There are rifles of caliber 20 mm: Iran 20 * 102 Arash; South Africa 20 * 82 and 20 * 110 Mechem NTW; Croatia 20 * 110 RT20; USA 20 * 102 Anzino Take Down Rifle
      There is a rifle caliber 25 mm Barret XM109 USA; 24,1 mm SSK Industries 950JDL
      There is an Austrian 15.2 * 169 mm Steyr IWS 2000
      1. +3
        April 21 2020 16: 24
        Quote: V.I.P.
        There are rifles of caliber 14.5 * 114

        There are, but they are mostly - the so-called antimaterial. Their task is to spoil enemy equipment at ranges of up to a kilometer and a half, and not beat a squirrel in the eye through half a country.
        1. 0
          April 22 2020 06: 12
          Quote: Kalmar
          they are for the most part - the so-called antimaterial.
          It’s clear that a big bullet means big damage. But a heavy bullet has more energy and the ability to overcome a greater amount of the atmosphere.
  5. +6
    April 21 2020 15: 15
    Believe it or not, it follows from the content of the article that the American CheyTac M200 rifle is superior to the "Twilight"!
    1. +2
      April 21 2020 15: 32
      Accuracy is bigger, not better. Those. Twilight 0,2 MOA, and one, for example, 1
      MOA.
      1. +1
        April 21 2020 17: 41
        Quote: Paul Zewike
        Accuracy is bigger, not better. Those. Twilight 0,2 MOA, and one, for example, 1
        MOA.

        Comparing the accuracy of these two rifles, everything is very ambiguous. For SVLK-14S, most of the sources give 0.3MOA per 100m, for the CheyTac M200 at 2500yards (2280m) it is indicated “less than 1MOA.” Therefore, the statement: “CheyTac M200 shows accuracy much worse than the accuracy of the SVLK-14S rifle” looks very vague.
        1. 0
          April 22 2020 01: 57
          I just answered the comment. And so you are probably right.
          1. 0
            April 22 2020 01: 59
            And of course, depends on the cartridge. Some half a kilometer shows decent accuracy, and then sags heavily.
            1. 0
              April 22 2020 13: 59
              Quote: Paul Zewike
              Some half a kilometer shows decent accuracy, and then sags heavily.

              This does not happen. The bullet with which angle of dispersion flew out of the barrel - and so it flies to the end. A bullet cannot fly up to 500 m, for example, from 2MOA, and then suddenly change the angle to 3MOA.
        2. +1
          April 22 2020 13: 56
          Quote: BORMAN82
          0.3MOA at 100m, the CheyTac M200 at 2500yards (2280m) indicates “less than 1MOA”.

          MOA is the CORNER minute, that is, the angular measurement of accuracy. The angular measurement of accuracy practically does not change with increasing range. That is, at Dusk, 0,3MOA both at 100m and 2 kilometers. And CheyTac has 1 OA both at 2280m and 100m.
          Now, if the accuracy was indicated by 15cm at a distance of 100m, then yes, with an increase in range, these 15cm increase by a multiple of the increase in range.
          1. +1
            April 22 2020 17: 13
            Quote: Svateev
            That is, at Dusk, 0,3MOA both at 100m and 2 kilometers.

            This is all very good, but accuracy with increasing distance varies non-linearly. Alas and ah)
            Look at the example "Table of dispersion of shots for SVD"
            1. 0
              18 May 2020 19: 06
              Quote: BORMAN82
              accuracy with increasing distance varies nonlinearly.

              How to say...
              We look at the first (VV) or second (Vb) columns: from 100m to 500m in general a millimeter to a millimeter (1,4 * 5 = 7). Linearly. The AK74 is linearly up to 600m.
              Further 500m - yes, rounding begins to affect, because 100m is not exactly 1,4cm, but 1,4Xcm. And the wind, both longitudinal and lateral, when testing cartridges increased the dispersion, which went to the table. Here - yes, not quite linear due to weather conditions.
  6. gcn
    +1
    April 21 2020 15: 37
    I think Mo needs it but not for rulers. Still, a sniper at such distances starting from 500m needs to be sure that the bullet will fly where it needs to with minimal corrections with a bunch of weather nuances (rain, snow, wind, heat, atmospheric pressure with the speed of the Planet , a joke). With SVD and its upgrades from Kalashnikov, you can’t shoot at a distance of more than 1 km with a stable result (all the same, it’s imprisoned for another).
    1. +2
      April 21 2020 15: 52
      "With the speed of the planet, kidding." Well-ooh. Nobody canceled the Coriolis force. As far as I remember, data on the latitude and azimuth of the ship's movement were taken into account in the LMS of the battleship Yamato, just to take this force into account. Now, I think this is also taken into account.
      1. gcn
        0
        April 21 2020 17: 03
        Well, they shot almost, and beyond the horizon, plus the caliber. Somewhere I watched a video that is also taken into account in sniper competitions, but in combat conditions it’s not until the planet moves.
    2. 0
      April 21 2020 18: 10
      So from SVD and UHF, you’ll hit no one further than 600 m .. Well, maybe by accident ...
      1. +1
        April 22 2020 16: 12
        Quote: V.I.P.
        So from SVD and UHF, you’ll hit no one further than 600 m .. Well, maybe by accident ...

        they also hit at a distance of just over 1 km, only such master arrows are the elite.
    3. 0
      18 May 2020 19: 12
      Quote: gcn
      With SVD and its upgrades from Kalashnikov, you can’t shoot at distances greater than 1 km with a stable result

      All hits at record distances from any super-duper rifle are prepared: after all the calculations with a laser rangefinder and a weather station, sighting shots are made and the sight is adjusted for actual hits. And then - record shooting.
      1. gcn
        0
        18 May 2020 19: 18
        I remember 1200 and 1300. Of course, laser rangefinders smiled (about SVD at state tests)
  7. +4
    April 21 2020 15: 38
    Finally, after my comment, a change was made to the text: "the accuracy is much Worse than the accuracy of the SVLK-14S rifle"
  8. +3
    April 21 2020 16: 05
    Quote: Kalmar
    4 kilometer sniper shooting is a pure sport; in combat conditions it is very difficult to imagine a situation where such a shot would be feasible. For distances of a kilometer and a half, you can find cheaper weapons, under the more common ammunition (.338 Lapua?).

    ZSU-23-2 the world's best anti-sniper complex.
    1. 0
      April 21 2020 16: 25
      Quote: Ua3qhp
      ZSU-23-2 the world's best anti-sniper complex.

      "Kord", they say, shows itself very worthily in this capacity. And it's easier to carry it around.
    2. -1
      April 21 2020 16: 40
      You can also use the "Infernal Mallet". For the same purposes.
    3. +1
      April 21 2020 16: 52
      Quote: Ua3qhp
      ZSU-23-2 the world's best anti-sniper complex.

      With a sniper, the main thing is to find him.
      And to hit him to the core the same motorized riflemen have enough staffing resources without super-megawares: mortars, KPVT, 2A42, 2A72, and if they got it very much, then they will not regret the ATGM.
    4. 0
      April 22 2020 16: 15
      Quote: Ua3qhp
      ZSU-23-2 the world's best anti-sniper complex.

      battery "Sleigh" / "Trays" and / or "Carnations" / "Acacia" ... soldier
  9. 0
    April 21 2020 16: 37
    Quote: Ua3qhp

    ZSU-23-2 the world's best anti-sniper complex.

    The best anti-sniper complex-MLRS. Well, or at the edge of a mortar or howitzer battery.
    1. +1
      April 21 2020 16: 48
      The best anti-sniper complex

      The best anti-sniper rifle sticks out of the tank turret, usually there are more gaskets between artillery and infantry.
  10. -1
    April 21 2020 16: 38
    In 2017, a record was set - hitting from a distance of 4210 meters.

    I watched the video how this record was set. It was funny to watch how, in order to hit the target, the shooter takes aim at the sky. At such distances, the bullet flies along a rather impressive parabolic trajectory.
  11. +1
    April 21 2020 16: 43
    Quote: Genie
    Without "burning" it will still not work. So it is necessary to execute at least 2 shots.

    Not all rifles have a "cold lead." Usually this happens with trunks "with mileage." This time. A second cold shot usually has the same deviation from the STP, which is easy to take into account.
    1. +1
      April 21 2020 17: 47
      At short distances (up to 500m), perhaps I agree. But on the "further", personally, I, without burning, and to look closely, also does not hurt, where it flew, perhaps I will not risk it.
  12. -3
    April 21 2020 18: 42
    In this case, the "store" ammunition simply loses its meaning. This is the main reason for the single-charge "Twilight".

    Most likely the point is in physics, and not that the store has lost its meaning. In the absence of a magazine there are fewer opportunities for side leakage of combustion products, and the bolt itself is simpler and can be more carefully adjusted to fit the cartridge, which means that the range of the bullet will be greater.
    1. +3
      April 21 2020 23: 10
      In the absence of a magazine, there is less potential for side leakage
      You have not confused the store with a car muffler? How do you imagine the leakage of combustion products through a rifle store?
      1. -1
        April 22 2020 10: 35
        Quote: Undecim
        How do you imagine the leakage of combustion products through a rifle store?

        Joining the store, as I understand it, requires a different barrel design for feeding the cartridge and other tolerances in the manufacture of the mechanism. And this, in turn, will lead to the fact that some of the gases will leak out and in the opposite direction from the direction of movement of the bullet. Which will lead to a certain decrease in pressure in the barrel and a decrease in the range of the bullet. Or is it not so?
        1. +2
          April 22 2020 10: 42
          The presence of a store on the barrel structure has no effect. And on tolerances - even more so. Sorry, I do not want to offend you in any way, but I got the impression that you can’t imagine the device of small arms at all and are far from technology.
          1. -1
            April 22 2020 11: 29
            Quote: Undecim
            Sorry, I do not want to offend you in any way, but I got the impression that you can’t imagine the device of small arms at all and are far from technology.

            No verbiage is necessary, but simply explain why single-shot rifles are used for extra long distances, and they are released only in Russia, but also in other countries of the world. Why store rifles are not suitable for this, since stores do not affect the firing range?
            1. +3
              April 22 2020 12: 03
              A store is needed to increase rate of fire. When shooting at very long distances, this factor does not matter, since preparing a shot takes a very long time.
              This is on the one hand.
              On the other hand, the presence of a magazine complicates the design and makes it heavier, especially taking into account the fact that such rifles have a large caliber and the magazine magazine has substantial weight.
              As the cartridges are spent, this weight changes, respectively, and the balance of the weapon, too, therefore there is a negative effect on the accuracy of fire.
              In addition, the presence of the receiving window requires additional measures to ensure the rigidity of the receiver, which also negatively affects the weight of the weapon.
              Therefore, sniper rifles for ultra-long range shooting and do not shop.
              Yes, and any high-precision rifles, too, since for them the rate of fire is not a determining factor.
              1. -1
                April 22 2020 12: 21
                Quote: Undecim
                A store is needed to increase rate of fire.

                This is known to any literate person, and why in the 19th century store rifles displaced singly charged in the army does not need to be explained.
                Quote: Undecim
                On the other hand, the presence of a store complicates the design and makes it heavier,

                Nevertheless, there are many options for sniper rifles with shops - so this is not the main factor. Moreover, the heavier the rifle, the less recoil, and this is also an advantage.
                https://udipedia.net/samye-moshhnye-i-dalnobojnye-snajperskie-vintovki-mire/
                Quote: Undecim
                As the cartridges are spent, this weight changes, respectively, and the balance of the weapon, too, therefore there is a negative effect on the accuracy of fire.

                And why did they come up with bipods or why do snipers put a rifle on some support?
                Quote: Undecim
                In addition, the presence of the receiving window requires additional measures to ensure the rigidity of the receiver, which also negatively affects the weight of the weapon.

                That is, you acknowledge that the store actually affects the design of all weapons - by the way, I said this:
                Joining the store, as I understand it, requires a different barrel design for feeding the cartridge

                You probably have not seen these words?
                Quote: Undecim
                Therefore, sniper rifles for ultra-long range shooting and do not shop.

                I talked about the physical phenomena that occur in the barrel during a shot. Can you refute the fact that a gas leak will occur and this is affected precisely by the design of the charging mechanism and the presence of a window for the store? Indeed, the bullet’s flight range directly depends on this, which means that ultra-long rifles are made single-shot.
                1. +1
                  April 22 2020 12: 35
                  What a mess in your head - horses, people, salvos of guns.
                  Can you imagine the difference between a Marxman and a sniper rifle?
                  many options for sniper rifles with shops are rifles Designated Marksman Rifle.
                  And rifles for precision shooting - they are single-shot and with a longitudinally sliding shutter.
                  But the presence of the store has no effect on the processes in the trunk. I am not going to refute this, as it is the same. that to refute the rotation of the Earth or that the wind does not come from the swaying of trees.
                  Honestly, you can regard this as you please, but educating the ignorant is not my forte. Especially aggressive, pushing for their ignorance.
                  For this, I wish you success in the field of enlightenment and all the best.
                  1. -2
                    April 22 2020 12: 52
                    Quote: Undecim
                    Can you imagine the difference between a Marxman and a sniper rifle?

                    I have a Soviet course of higher physics behind me, and there in the theory of gas propagation it was said that there are no ideal media, which means the rate of pressure drop will directly depend on leaks - I don’t remember the details, but the essence was like that. That's why I understand why single-shot sniper rifles outperform store ones when their main criterion is super long range.
                    Quote: Undecim
                    But the presence of the store has no effect on the processes in the trunk.

                    This affects the design of the rifle itself - the supply of cartridges requires several other technical solutions, and this indirectly affects gas leaks. I see no other reasons, and you have not convincingly named them, especially since when shooting several kilometers away, nobody needs a rate of fire, so this is not an argument.
                    1. +5
                      April 22 2020 13: 21
                      I have behind me the Soviet course of higher physics, mathematics, chemistry, theoretical mechanics, the theory of mechanisms and machines, the resistance of materials, the theory of elasticity, the theory of stability, the theory of metallurgical processes and even scientific communism and how much scientific atheism. In short, all those courses that all Soviet engineers have behind them.
                      And all of them unanimously say that a person who wants to receive knowledge is looking for a source and, if he himself can not understand the information, is looking for an explanation.
                      But there is a category called militant ignoramuses and comrades who have joined them with something behind them, who demand to refute them! No more and no less - refute my theory that the store affects the "gas leak through the store." And if you cannot refute it, then you have no arguments.
                      A side-by-side question to you - I need it, to refute you? What for? If you want to believe in a gas breakthrough through the store - for God's sake. People do not believe in such garbage and live for themselves. Moreover, you are not particularly striving to "refute".
                      Good luck and all the best.
                      1. -2
                        April 22 2020 13: 34
                        Quote: Undecim
                        If you want to believe in the breakthrough of gases through the store - for God's sake.

                        Do not distort - not through the store, but through the design of the chamber and the bolt, which in store rifles should have more gaps in terms of tolerance than in single-shot rifles.
                      2. 0
                        April 23 2020 12: 13
                        Gentlemen, why be measured by formations !?
                        You are both right.
                        The combustion processes and the dynamics of the movement of gases and bullets along the barrel certainly affect the accuracy of the weapon, but the breakthrough of gases in the store means disaster, if my memory serves me, it was there that the ingenious old man Mauser tried to direct the gases that burst from the chamber into the accident.
                        God forbid you to milk to such a state, even having a Soviet vocational school behind you and strain gauging the shaft.
                        Usually, in order to stay alive and with eyes, it is enough to check the warmed sleeve for carbon deposits and the shutter mirror for the print from the bottom of the sleeve and the shape of the shot capsule.
                        If you are experimenting with large weights of gunpowder and (God forbid you have very small), and in your anatomy as a result of the experiments no drastic changes have occurred, then it is advisable to show the rifle to an officer who is able to measure the corresponding gaps.
                        As for the single-shot, the absence of a cutout for the store greatly simplifies the problems of transferring loads from the receiver to the butt, as well as the rigidity of the whole system.
                        The more powerful the cartridge, the more difficult it is to do it, I heard that the Accuracy International Arctic Warfare got burned on it - it broke sights, but I will not insist.
                        Most likely these guys could not cope with this.
                        In general, weapons are made for the task of what task these people faced - it is not clear.
  13. 0
    April 21 2020 19: 11
    The record, of course, was at one time, but did not last long.
  14. +3
    April 21 2020 20: 14
    Quote: Amateur
    But will the author tell me from what shot and target what size this sports record was achieved?

    There was a video. When firing at 3400 km, they hit the EMNIP from the fifth shot. The size of the target is 2x1 meters (2 meters - height). At 3200 meters EMNip from the second or 3 shots.

    Quote: Amateur
    You are absolutely right about the rules of the sport. You just don't have to confuse combat sniper weapons and sports weapons. These are very different things. And the author of the article lumps everything into one heap. And some commentators were going to hit it "right in the head"

    The author also compares the serial rifle CheyTac M200, produced since 2001 and designed for firing from 1500 to 2500 m with the unit C-14, designed for firing at a distance of 2 km more ...
  15. 0
    April 21 2020 20: 33
    The next article is completely about nothing, moreover, from an author who does not understand what he writes at all.
    For example, the famous American CheyTac M200 rifle “Intervention” (a rifle with a magazine) shows accuracy much worse than accuracy of the SVLK-14S rifle (the parameters of the Russian rifle in accuracy of 0,2MOA for a group of 5 shots).
    For the CheyTac M200 Intervention, the manufacturer provides less than one MOA per 2500 yards.
    Accordingly, for SVLK-14S at a similar distance there will be 5 MOA.
    1. Fat
      +4
      April 21 2020 23: 18
      Quote: Undecim
      The next article is completely about nothing, moreover, from an author who does not understand what he writes at all.
      For example, the famous American CheyTac M200 rifle “Intervention” (a rifle with a magazine) shows accuracy much worse than accuracy of the SVLK-14S rifle (the parameters of the Russian rifle in accuracy of 0,2MOA for a group of 5 shots).
      For the CheyTac M200 Intervention, the manufacturer provides less than one MOA per 2500 yards.
      Accordingly, for SVLK-14S at a similar distance there will be 5 MOA.

      Will not be, as you say. 1 MOA (arc min) is 1 inch per 100 yards. The angle is always constant and at a distance of 2500 yards we get (with MOA = 1), 25 inches, and for SVLK-14S - 5 inches ... 5 times less
      1. +1
        April 21 2020 23: 48
        Read the comment carefully. This is the first. The second one. If your rifle for 100 yards laid the bullets in a circle with a diameter of 25,4 mm, then the accuracy of your rifle is about 1 MOA.
        But the accuracy can be higher! The manufacturer gives accuracy for the M200 is about 1 MOA, but at 2500 yards.
        That is, the CheyTac Intervention M200rifle stacks bullets in a circle with a diameter of 25,4 mm, but for 2500 yards!
        The angle, as you say, is constant and at 100 yards we get 0,04 MOA or 1,016 mm.
        And at SVLK-14S - 5,08 mm - five times more!
        Realized?
        1. +3
          April 22 2020 01: 02
          What will be the magnitude of the angle of 1 degree, if we consider it in a 4-fold magnifier?
        2. Fat
          +1
          April 22 2020 01: 31
          Quote: Undecim
          Read the comment carefully. This is the first. The second one. If your rifle for 100 yards laid the bullets in a circle with a diameter of 25,4 mm, then the accuracy of your rifle is about 1 MOA.
          But the accuracy can be higher! The manufacturer gives accuracy for the M200 is about 1 MOA, but at 2500 yards.
          That is, the CheyTac Intervention M200rifle stacks bullets in a circle with a diameter of 25,4 mm, but for 2500 yards!
          The angle, as you say, is constant and at 100 yards we get 0,04 MOA or 1,016 mm.
          And at SVLK-14S - 5,08 mm - five times more!
          Realized?

          With an accuracy of 1 MOA for 2500 yards, we get a circle with a diameter of 25 inches - 63,5 cm. Therefore, to evaluate accuracy, there is such a unit as MOA. Once again, the MOA is an angle (an angular minute), not an accuracy of itself, but only its angular estimate. A ton of cotton weighs exactly the same as a ton of cast iron, despite differences in heap sizes.
        3. +5
          April 22 2020 01: 41
          Quote: Undecim
          But the accuracy can be higher! The manufacturer gives accuracy for the M200 is about 1 MOA, but at 2500 yards.
          That is, the CheyTac Intervention M200rifle stacks bullets in a circle with a diameter of 25,4 mm, but for 2500 yards!


          You are a little confused.

          Angular minute - it is also angular in Africa. And the distance does not change the angle.
          1 MOA at 2500 yards will give a circle of 25 inches.
          Reduce the distance by 25 times, to 100 yards, and get a circle of 1 inch. And the corner minute is still the same, 1MOA.

          Another question is that in reality, especially at long distances, the dependence of accuracy on distance is not linear. That is, 1 MOA per 100 yards does not guarantee 1 MOA per 2500 yards. But in the opposite direction it guarantees.
          1. +2
            April 22 2020 07: 01
            Yes, right. It brought me a little.
        4. 0
          April 22 2020 14: 07
          Quote: Undecim
          If your rifle for 100 yards laid the bullets in a circle with a diameter of 25,4 mm, then the accuracy of your rifle is about 1 MOA. ...
          That is, the CheyTac Intervention M200rifle stacks bullets in a circle with a diameter of 25,4 mm, but for 2500 yards!

          Don't you understand what a corner is ?!
          Angle is the ratio of the dispersion perimeter to the range.
          Realized?
  16. +3
    April 21 2020 22: 31
    Requirements for the firing range are growing in modern conditions, and therefore the demand for single-shot sniper rifles is increasing.

    Where is it from? The first time I hear about "the demand for single-shot sniper rifles is increasing."
    SVLK-14S is specially manufactured in a single-shot version, as this allows you to provide the receiver stiffness required for ultra-long range shooting, as well as modularity and changeability of calibers.

    Again by. Modularity is inherent in many rifles with box magazines. Examples are AXMC, DT SRS, etc.
    The rigidity of the "receiver" - we traditionally call this part of the weapon the receiver, but oh well, let there be a "receiver" - it does not prevent these rifles from shooting with very good accuracy.
    The fact is that “Dusk” is a sniper weapon for those cases when a second shot is most likely not needed. And if you need it, it can hardly be successful - because the target is at a very great distance,

    The first shot at long ranges, let alone record ones, will not be successful with a probability of at least 0,9. Long range, by the way, is an individual concept for each weapon-cartridge complex. The respected author seems to be unfamiliar with the basics of shooting.
  17. 0
    April 21 2020 23: 29
    For the first time I heard about the Lobaev cantor on channel 715 TEAM, so the article was very interesting. Too bad it's so short.
    1. 0
      April 22 2020 09: 10
      1 This rifle is needed simply as an example of the fact that we can do this if we do business with knowledge of the matter, with love, honestly, not trying to deceive ourselves and others, then a lot of things work out as they should.
      2 it as a mechanism has a simple device, it is possible that there are only two dozen parts in it, therefore there are no objective reasons to significantly reduce the cost of mass production
      3 interesting to try experimenting with the barrel, change it to composite
      1. 0
        April 22 2020 10: 43
        Quote: agond
        This rifle is needed simply as an example of the fact that we can do this if we deal with knowledge of the matter, with love, honestly, not trying to deceive ourselves and others, then a lot of things work out as they should.

        I think that they did it for a reason, but by order of the anti-terrorist center of one of the special services of our country. For military intelligence, such weapons are unlikely to be needed - they have other tasks and there are more suitable rifles such as SVD or Vintorez.
        1. -2
          April 22 2020 16: 23
          ,
          Quote: ccsr
          For military intelligence, such a weapon is unlikely to be needed.

          If you need to hit the target for 4 km with small arms, it’s better not to do it with one convolutional shot, but with a series of high-density shots in a short time, like with an automatic revolving rifle.
  18. +2
    April 23 2020 02: 31
    To begin with, I shoot from a similar rifle for about 20 years and have already changed 3 barrels.
    Caliber 300 Winchester Magnum, accuracy, so to speak, 10-15 mm two shots at 200 meters from sandbags.
    The Barnard bolt group, the Krieger barrel is made to order, the Robertson stock is made to order, the Jul trigger, the chamber sweep is made to order, and so on .... Everything together with the Schmitt and Bender scope and ballistic calculator pulls $ 10 plus
    I also personally know one of the former owners of Barnard.
    The fact that the author has listed is nothing new, the trouble is that the reader of such materials has little idea how things are in reality with such weapons.
    To begin with, in real conditions, you are unlikely to be able to shoot from stands, legs of tripods and rugs - it will just be difficult for you to find a fairly smooth surface - for example, in the mountains, moreover, the reaction of the surface with which you decide to shoot should be identical to the one used for shooting .
    Any non-regular rifle jump will reduce your illustrious MOA to nothing.
    I personally shoot from the belt (special belt) from the prone position and from the knee, but for this I have to hold a 24 kg weight in my left hand in a position from the knee and a pood on a swinging platform if standing ...
    Those who love big cartridges, but have never used them, you need to take into account that rebound can be such that the retina will peel off and you will become blind or if there is a muzzle tomosis, and deaf may be both.
    It would not be amiss to say that such rifles are made under one cartridge and one bullet, and it is desirable that this very bullet would press on the gunpowder in the cartridge case with easy compression (free term) in my case the store simply cannot be used
    unnecessarily, the bullet is pushed forward so that it can only stay in the sleeve. That's why a special sweep of the chamber was needed, etc.
    In short, the factory will not make such cartridges for you.
    Even if you overcame haemorrhoids with charging cartridges and they differ by no more than 0.1 grams on the scales and finally got to the shooting range with your sniper, so to speak, surprises like speed differences between the first and second shot, between the cold barrel and warm barrel, etc., which will reduce your advertising MOA to zero, yes, do not forget to check the tightness of the bolts to the butt with a calibrated key.
    When you shoot, keep a record of each cartridge (you can’t store them for more than a year), because the barrel under a high-intensity cartridge, like those that use real heroes from the Internet, can withstand only about 1000 shots without noticeable loss of accuracy, and if you know how it is, those. barrel, clean it properly.
    It is easy to guess that in order to be a cool sniper from militants, you need to make about 5000 rounds per year, which means at least 1-2 new barrels per year and almost all, I repeat almost all hemorrhoids with ammunition and ballistic new ones.
    Nobody canceled purely the technique of shooting from your (or mine) monster, it’s difficult to work it out on such a product, so there is a need to train at idle.
    Here gentlemen, pay attention to the bolt group of the Barnard company; there is an opportunity to loosen the tension of the fighting springs and save the percussion mechanism (special false cartridge in the chamber).
    But if you fell in love with the Barnard bolt group of all souls as I love it, don’t forget that the bolt’s protrusion in this design is prone to wear and tear, which leads to the detonation of the cartridge when the bolt is not fully closed, and sometimes completely open.
    It is clear that fathers commanders will scratch their turnips for a long time before putting out money for such a product, but lovers of Pulp Fiction in English would dare to sign up for a shooting club and start training, especially since the Soviet shooting school is one of the best in the world.
    1. -1
      April 23 2020 10: 19
      It is immediately obvious from the commentary that the person is deeply in the subject and understands what and what he is talking about. It was nice to read this comment. More interesting at times than an article. Sergey, from me personally "+" and a greeting.
      1. 0
        April 23 2020 20: 10
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        Quote: Ingenegr
        I begin with the fact that I am shooting from a similar rifle for about 20 years and have already changed 3 barrels.
        Caliber 300 Winchester Magnum, accuracy, so to speak, 10-15 mm two rounds per 200 meters

        I would like to ask you a series of questions
        1. 15-15 mm is the scattering diameter or deviation from the center of the target
        2 what is the dispersion diameter at those record distances that we are told about 1500 m and 2000 m and what is the probability of getting into it from the first shot
        3 and a naive question, if shooting with such a rifle is difficult and dangerous for the shooter, then why not remake it purely for shooting from a "gun carriage", especially since they do not shoot for kilometers.
  19. 0
    10 June 2020 00: 12
    I read the work of A.A. Potapov a year ago. - "The Art of the Sniper", it is true there is about the classic Soviet systems, the times of the USSR, and about the specifics of training snipers of army units. An excellent book.
    According to SVLK-14C “Sumrak” or its classmates, such systems are not for the army, it is a piece of goods and expensive. Only for sports or for the FSB and with their own specifics of use. In battle, such a product is of little use, it will be necessary to shoot there quickly, not once, and often with a change of position. There are too many factors preventing a successful one long-range (more than 1600-1700m) shot. Although a distance of 2km is quite a working distance for this rifle, if necessary (for example, neutralizing a terrorist with hostages next to him ) for the accuracy of the hit, it is unlikely that at least one sniper or the commander of the sniper group will take responsibility.
    I don’t impose an opinion, but it’s about the same as for the army and the GRU, since the SVD is often not enough in combat conditions, the rifle is 338Magnum Lapua or in our 8,61mm caliber. They have a range limit of 1600m, and this is more than enough, such a distance for training snipers of the Ministry of Defense is very, very worthy. The only moment, in combat conditions, snipers are not immune from close (closer than 300m) battle in dynamics, additional weapons are required, since with a bolt of 8,61 mm without an open sight, it’s problematic for a sniper to work with him in a shootout.
    And the shooting race with calibers of 12,7-14,5 at 2500-3000-3500-4000-4500 meters is the lot of athletes. There and the conditions are completely un-fighting. Loss, nothing fatal, there it is not a matter of life and not life.
    And for the army, nobody canceled the issue of overall weight and weight characteristics.
    This is not an axiom, just an opinion.

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