The Ministry of Industry and Trade has published a list of 246 backbone enterprises in Russia

246 Russian enterprises are recognized as systemically important. They relate to 15 different industries, including aircraft manufacturing, electronic, shipbuilding and defense.

The list was published yesterday on the website of the Ministry of Industry and Trade of the Russian Federation.

It was approved on April 17 at a meeting of the Government Commission on improving the sustainability of the development of the Russian economy.

In particular, it included the Kalashnikov concern, Uralvagonzavod, Zvezda LLC, Tyazhmash JSC, Avtomatika concern, RTI JSC, Almaz-Antey concern, Russian Helicopters JSC, United Aircraft Building company ”, AvtoVAZ JSC, KamAZ PJSC and a number of other well-known Russian companies.

In the future, other enterprises that meet the established criteria can be added to the list.

This week it is planned to compile a list of backbone enterprises in 10 more industries, among which will be metallurgy and the medical industry.

The enterprises from the list will receive maximum state support. Regular monitoring of the situation at these facilities will allow timely identification of problems and their proper resolution.

Comments

[Irokez]

Do not forget the machine-tool and food industries, as well as processing all directions.
In addition, ensure the chains and interconnections of all industries to ensure sufficient independence from imports, and especially food.
In short, we need to take the experience of the USSR, that is, take the best and implement it.

[Snail N9]

Interestingly, "FONBET" was removed from the list ....?
https://www.bbc.com/russian/news-52158272

[Zhan]

Quote: Snail N9

Interestingly, "FONBET" was removed from the list ....?
https://www.bbc.com/russian/news-52158272

Removed ..
The guard raised such a wave ....
I think min. Fin Already peretrahivayut ...

[DMB 75]

Quote: Zhan

min Fin Already peretrahivayut ...

Yes, it's time.

[Andrey Gurenkov]

Yes, I would like someone to answer for this. but not so included in the list, removed ...

[Deck]

And such a fortune, the virus came and mowed this amateur class to the root, put it on its knees, turned it into beggars And what do you command me to do? To lower to this potential “fifth column”, a hotbed of all kinds of liberal evil, the billions prepared for the case of the last and decisive battle with the sworn West, or to let them “die”, freeing up a platform for large-scale direct or indirect state business? The answer suggests itself. For those who dreamed of returning to a special Russian path - in the sense of a totally state-controlled economy and a society hindered by religious and ideological bonds ....

[Runoway]

How do you like
"BALTICA"
"McDONALDS"
"BURGER RUSSIA"
"Coca Cola"
This is for those who believe in a mirror response to sanctions.
And at the same time, it is not clear how "Magnet", "Lenta" and "36/6" pharmacies differ from others and why exactly they need help

[Malyuta]

Quote: Irokez

In short, we need to take the experience of the USSR, that is, take the best and implement it.

The experience of the USSR was absolutely ruined, destroyed and forgotten. In this situation, the State Planning Commission would greatly help, only it is not included in the managerial matrices about market self-regulators.
And now the most interesting moment, let's try to find among the metallurgical enterprises enterprises with domestic jurisdiction, then we will look for domestic producers of milk and so on.
As a result, we will find offshores of Deripasoks, Usmanovs, Potanins, Mordashovs and other Michelsons. And now the sparse truth of life, all the "help" provided will safely go away, like a colander to offshore accounts under a 2% tax.

[Irokez]

Quote: Malyuta

2% tax.

And not the 15% that just recently introduced? It used to be, but better late than never.

Quote: Malyuta

And now the most interesting moment, let's try to find among the metallurgical enterprises enterprises with domestic jurisdiction, then we will look for domestic producers of milk and so on.

Do you propose to do nothing or vice versa to start at least doing something?
You will listen so badly and we will all die soon, well, if so, then you should probably just surrender to the enemy in the hope that he will feed us for work?
Aha shchasssss. Pale grebe and feed.

[Lannan Shi]

Quote: Irokez

Listen to you so bad and we will all die soon

Well, actually it's close to that. Do you think in Vladikavkaz people just went out with riot police? Bored of self-isolation, and decided to have some fun? In the style of wall to wall? The same hunger riot, the threat of which was discussed at the start of this clowning. If I don’t, then so far the mortality rate from the virus is around 10%, but from hunger it has always been exactly 100. One of the poorest regions, therefore, it begins to boil earlier than others.

Quote: Irokez

Do you propose to do nothing or vice versa to start at least doing something?

Well, if you drank state money in the right pockets, the first thing you need to do, then in principle everything is going right. Here you explain to me. How did the virus affect the same antei? Have they started rockets in whom? Right in the shops? The first Mlyn is to save people. And not dividends on shares. A month, do you understand? For a month people sit without incomes, and they are promised with a joyful expression on their faces for another 10 days, at least to extend. Type of bread is not and will not be, good mood to all? And who is in a bad mood for those riot police? So?

[Irokez]

But really Darling, you will listen to you and it seems that everyone will soon die. Well, this is not at all so, and I do not see the death of Russia and its people even in these realities of today. And not so worried, and there have always been patriots and traitors, staunch people and alarmists, and as a rule in an era of change (one wise man said: - "God forbid you live in an era of change") everyone scolds the rulers who still know better how to steer (well, you must agree, I'm right) and everything is primarily for the state itself to survive and the people will survive only when the state survived (and nothing else). If there is no state, then the people as such will dissolve in another culture that came from outside. I ask the fate of these rules, no matter how unpleasant they are for you.
You would go to extremes less because even psychologically it is harmful to those reading you.

[Lannan Shi]

Quote: Irokez

I do not see the death of Russia and its people, even in these realities of today.

Translating from your into Russian, everything is fine with you, and if someone has nothing to eat, you don’t care.

Quote: Irokez

And not so worried

Is that so? This certainly did not worry. Forbid people to earn money on food, and not provide any alternative, this is purely Putin's know-how. Even the Nazis were a little more humane.

Quote: Irokez

persistent people and alarmists,

Kind. Two daughters, me, husband. I have already been banned from working. Husband ... Well, while it works. And when / if they send him home? Tell me a singer about perseverance, then what to feed the children? If you go beyond the gate, in theory, will they also impose fines on me? This is when I worked, we had a reserve of fat, now everything is over. Am I panicking? No dear. I'm in a rage and not in a panic. And when they start buzzing with us ..... And not because the agent of Uruguayan intelligence is so bad, but because Mr. Putin pushes me with kicks into a riot.

Quote: Irokez

still know better how to steer (well, you see, I’m right

Of course they are right. Come for a visit. I have a compost pit matures. I’ll feed from it. And you, not being a chef of extra class, will eat and praise. Well, you are not an expert in haute cuisine, so you simply have to eat the nastiest rubbish and get excited.

Quote: Irokez

You would be less extreme

And let's do an experiment. Put you on a diet for a week? From water, water and water. And then we’ll talk to extremes.

[Irokez]

Quote: Lannan Shi

Translating from your into Russian, everything is fine with you, and if someone has nothing to eat, you don’t care.

Actually, I speak Russian with you (you hear me, which means you understand, that is, the language is Russian)
Unlike some, I didn’t spend and didn’t live from paycheck to paycheck and postponed it a bit, and so far there is something to live for. If you have nothing to eat (how rude you put it), then start at least just to eat to maintain life, but not to gobble up.

This certainly did not worry.

Either you are disingenuous or you didn’t live in the 90s when people were 2-3 months old, but they didn’t pay salaries for a year and you had to turn around as you could. And all of this was building a democracy of a civilized type when I remember basins and buckets I had to offer everyone to buy under wages.
And damn the joke went
- They give money to people, they don’t get paid, but they go to work.
- Have you tried to take money at the checkpoint for coming to work?

And you are talking about difficult times - yes, it's just a breeze compared to a storm (which by the way I do not see in the future).

No dear. I'm in a rage and not in a panic. And when we begin to buzz.

So you just need to calm down and not go to extremes, and that there is no panic, then this is a good signal that you will normally survive this period of time. I don’t know when they will be buzzing, but if people understand the current situation, they will endure the difficulties that have fallen to the whole World (well, Russia too).

And let's do an experiment. Put you on a diet for a week? From water, water and water.

You won’t believe it - I’ll very easily endure it physically, psychologically worse, but at the same time I’ll save food and health (yes, the most valuable thing). And why so, because human life doesn’t particularly need exquisite dishes and drinks and enough water, bread, vitamins in the form of fruits of vegetables and by the way even meat is not the main product for life, namely vitamins and vegetable (not chemical or GMOs ) proteins fats carbohydrates. We have been accustomed in many ways to such food that right now surrounds us everywhere and in everything, but in fact it is too much. Here is life for you and makes it possible to get used to normal food, and before that, please sit on water, water and water to cleanse the body (but this should be done periodically by the way - I recommend it). If you do not want to do this, then probably the state is doing this shock therapy for you and your health improves.

[Lannan Shi]

Quote: Irokez

I don’t know when to buzz, but if people understand the current situation,

So when you stay with a couple of hundred in your pocket, an empty refrigerator, a hungry child, and with electricians who came to cut off the light for non-payment, then you yourself will understand the situation. In the meantime ... I'm ending the conversation with you. For you have no special problems, but those who are buzzing because they have nothing to eat today, or will not be tomorrow, you are basically not able to understand. For the degree of hackiness you rolls over.
Dixi.

[Golovan Jack]

Quote: Lannan Shi

That's when you stay with a couple of hundred in your pocket, an empty refrigerator, a hungry child

Do not make sneakers, they are so funny. They repeat it to you for the tenth time - in the beginning of the 90s the whole country lived like this. With a salary of once every 3 months (and this was considered good), often without electricity (already paid) and so on and so forth.

Personally, in the 90th I had a wife in my arms, just after a difficult birth, and a newborn daughter. No salary, the apartment is rented. And we nonetheless survived.

And here you will tell me how unhappy and heroic you are all of you ... in a two-hundred-meter house, EMNIP, meters ... why do you have a husband? Let it provide!

Putin is to blame for them ... ugh

[Revival]

It's no one's fault that after making so many jerks, we returned to the bottom of the 90s.
Of course no one is to blame .. yeah

[Golovan Jack]

Quote: Revival

we returned to the bottom of the 90s

How old are you, my dear? After the answer, we can continue.

Only honestly - it is easily verified .. by indirect

[Revival]

38 complete ....
90 I saw and remember them in all its glory, 1st Chechnya
The state was absent for me then and threw now ...

[Golovan Jack]

Quote: Revival

38 complete ...

... well, what can you know about the "day (from the" bottom "of the 90s)" that you are trying to tell me about? Te-o-re-te-ge

58 full eslic

[Revival]

I ate pigeons at one time, so don’t tell me ...
What I saw then is no excuse now.

[Golovan Jack]

Quote: Revival

What I saw then is no excuse now

Gorgeous phrase for introducing lawyer

Quote: Revival

I ate pigeons at one time, so don’t tell me ...

GYYY
Heroic deed

And how to get money to feed your family, when at work you’re a dumb kid for half a year, didn’t you "eat"? Ger-roi, damn it, our time

PS: by the way, "and pigeons"- a slip of the tongue according to Freud. So, there was something fatter and fatter than doves ...

You were a child. I could talk about those times on equal terms with your parents. I’m sorry, I’m just sending you: go ... in peace

[Revival]

What a nasty feeling leaves communication with you ..
Joke strained where it is out of place, turn over, as if "philosophizing" ..
From year to year, instead of meaning, a ringing void

[Golovan Jack]

Quote: Revival

What a nasty feeling leaves communication with you ..

Do not like it - do not eat (s).

Quote: Revival

Joke strained where it is out of place, turn over, as if "philosophizing" ..

You forgot "IMHO", don't you think?

Quote: Revival

Year after year instead of meaning ringing void

To you otolaryngologisturgently ... baby

[Revival]

Hamlo and only

[Golovan Jack]

Quote: Revival

Hamlo

Pleased to meet you. Farewell

[Revival]

On the contrary, I am not happy to get acquainted with the hamle. Farewell

[Vladimir Rostovsky]

Are you seriously golovan 58? I can't even believe it! By the way you act - to get into a conversation, write something abstract, without going into the topic, then (like you, after all, they can't) hurt someone with a mockery - I thought you were no more than thirty, but here it is like, in general you are a disgusting type, Golovan. Of course, I understand that you were born that way and "the humpbacked grave will fix it," but I think that there is something good and light in you, it cannot but be, in general, I hope that this particle inside you will defeat the rot.

[Uruguay]

Quote: Lannan Shi

So when you stay with a couple of hundred in your pocket, an empty refrigerator, a hungry child, and with electricians who came to cut off the light for non-payment, then you yourself will understand the situation.

Somewhere on the Internet, I've already read about these "TWO rubles and a child" .. Like, as I am the daughter of an officer, etc.

[Revival]

"but if people understand the current situation, they will steadfastly endure the difficulties that have befallen the whole world (well, Russia too)."
Yes, only one thing, but in the "whole world", for example, the USA, Germany, Spain, Italy, Canada, etc., and even Georgia! provide direct assistance to people, namely to ordinary people, and we offer to survive as you want and advertise how you benefit from fasting on water. So where is the state then? Do you think Putin, on your advice, is also on bread, water and vitamins?
Yes, and if the children sit on the slavishly suggestive diet you have proposed, without meat on water and bread, they will get a developmental delay

[Irokez]

Quote: Revival

tout you as the utility of fasting on water

Milochka started talking about water, but I just opened her eyes to what starvation on water is and how it affects the body (by the way, preferably spring water, and not from chlorine tap).

Yes, and if the children will sit on your proposed serfdom a diet without meat on water and bread will then be retarded

And why did you decide that as you put it serfdom diet is serfdom? This is exactly You so decided and probably think that vegetarian food leads a person to the grave? It's just that all over the world it is believed that it is impossible without meat, they say it is for the poor and who is without meat, is it all poor? This is a typical brainwashing especially in our time because vegetarianism does not do any harm, and on the contrary does not clog the body with animal fats and proteins stuffed with all sorts of anabolics and medicines for diseases, after which Мы using this meat we get used to antibiotics and fats from anabolics, turning our precious bodies into koloboks that are not able at the difficult moment to protect themselves from any viruses and infections. Since taking a medicine (antibiotic) for any infection, it is ineffective and the infection that is used and mutated from this antibiotic does not die, and then eats you, which can lead to death.
Medicine is simply delighted with modern nutrition and will not remain without work, and the cure for all diseases is moderate and normal food. Even eat meat, but do not gobble up in moderation, and not fat.
And the process of starvation itself is a cleansing of the body of everything and everyone, and if in self-isolation someone tries to starve for at least 1-2-3 days, then some diseases can go away without drugs (you hear no medicine Karl) and even chronic ailments can disappear despite the fact that doctors could not cure them.
Children without meat can even live and develop normally, the main thing is that there are plenty of vitamins, carbohydrates and proteins of plant production without chemistry, naturally and GMOs. A man is omnivorous and can eat everything that comes to hand, but the fact is whether it is useful or not.
This is not agitation to sit on the water and grass - it is a fact of nature from which nutritionists, advertisers, scientists and doctors all wean us.
You just look at what modern food is filling out of people.

[Revival]

The question is that a person eats plant foods and abandons meat at will, and not because he was brought to poverty

[Irokez]

Quote: Revival

The question is that people should eat plant foods and refuse meat at will.

When there is no information about the dangers of meat and the benefits of vegetation, and a meat diet is being seduced and imposed around the world, how can a person understand what is good and what is not. And as soon as a person understands at least a little (and this is already an oooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo. "And as soon as a person realizes a little bit (and this is already an oooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!) And as soon as a person realizes a little (and this is an ooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo ... do not eat meat at all (yes please, but moderately less harmful and cleaner), and then the wine will be.
And there is no need to put the opposite of "Poor - vegetarian" and "Wealthy - meat-eater", this is stupidity and programming through the brain.

[Revival]

Now no one has ripened and not received sight.
"When there is no information about the dangers of meat and the benefits of vegetation."
And what began to give information?
THE PROBLEM IN THAT PEOPLE MAKE POVERTY, WHICH SHOULD NOT BE AT ALL!
And the rejection of the meat is completely different.

[Irokez]

Quote: Revival

THE PROBLEM IN THAT PEOPLE MAKE POVERTY, WHICH SHOULD NOT BE AT ALL!

Does WHO do? Putin, Old Man, a neighbor on the street, a virus, a villa, an expensive car, the latest cell phone or our recklessness and consumerism of the material world.
Part of you, you are right, everything in the world is impoverished except for architects of world order, although there too many bankruptcies are planned in a wolf pack.
Do not take it to heart, the world process of purification and world restructuring has begun, and it will be like in our 90s - I don’t know, but it seems (from the word - a miracle) that we’ll normally rebuild (without losses - there are no victories).

[Uruguay]

Quote: Irokez

Part of you, you are right, everything in the world is impoverished except for architects of world order, although there too many bankruptcies are planned in a wolf pack.

I can smell each other's teeth .. The main thing is that the third world one should not be unleashed ..!

Quote: Irokez

and it will be like in our 90s - I don’t know, but it seems (from the word - a miracle) that we’ll normally rebuild (without losses - there are no victories).

Well, God forbid, that there is no confusion in Russia! And then some "masters" really liked to rob Russia and so that they would have nothing for it ..

[Revival]

Yes it is. By whose orders I was deprived of my job? Whose orders they decided not to help me, otherwise "the budget will crack", that's exactly the one to blame.
"MOSCOW, April 21 - RIA Novosti. Russia cannot afford to distribute money to the population," said the head of Sberbank German Gref in an interview with the head of the State Duma Committee on Budget and Taxes Andrei Makarov.
In response to Makarov's question about the distribution of money, Gref quoted an anecdote. "
That's all there is to know about the "state" in Russia ....

[Irokez]

Quote: Revival

Whose orders have I been deprived of work?

But are these orders from the finger vysason and have no ground under them?
- The virus is to blame for having opted for Russia.
- If someone invented the virus, then it is his fault.
- He is the one who wants to crush everyone in the world for himself (suppose).
Here you have the chain who is to blame for them and contact?

Yes, and Gref is always happy to take the money and that you quote it if this is the first money-taking from the population and a friend of Chubais. Ask him a question, can he answer you.

[Revival]

Decrees from where sucked up is not clear.
But where is the logic?
Well, a decree is forced, but where then is a logical forced measure to support ordinary people who, because of a forced decree, were left without money and work and need support now !?
What then is the state for them? Is supposedly forced to starve to death?
Sobyakin measures this state ?, He deprived me of work and money.
Is this state tax ?, sent a reminder to pay tax no later than April 27th.
On account already 6000r.
How do I pay tax when they deprived me of work, but for some reason they did not deprive the tax?
And I quote the count because the president and the Central Bank support him.
If Gref takes away money, and they agree with him, "the budget will crack to help people," then where is the state?

[Revival]

As I understand it, you will consider a good surgeon who was forced (gangrene) to cut off a person’s leg, but didn’t sew up the wound, just cut it off and left ..
Well done, huh? He was forced to cut off, now let him die like that, help than he could ..

[Irokez]

Well, a decree is forced, but where then is a logical forced measure to support ordinary people who, because of a forced decree, were left without money and work and need support now !?

I will say this with a proverb: - ​​"Of two evils, choose the lesser."
And you will agree with this, I am sure, why do you agree, because in both of the evils from which one must be chosen, one gets an alternative to good. In other words, lesser evil gives more good to others than vice versa, and if we proceed from this principle, then the choice is right.
Why is that? Because there is nothing ideal in the world and accordingly there will always be a loser or rejected, and this is not justice.
Thinking by the standards of the government (the state you are so angry at) it sacrifices the welfare of one, but it saves the others, that is, it saves everyone with one, than all with one. And what’s the most interesting, you would have done the same thing with these conditions, and I don’t need to say that it’s the other way around. You and I logically see that everything is done correctly when choosing evil (philosophically - that is, judiciousness).
Now about the rest abandoned.
Already there were decrees on the support of certain areas of activity and employment of people to support them and payments, and if you do not fall under this type of activity, then this is the fate or specificity of the activity. Further woe to those who live from paycheck to paycheck and do not have an airbag (which you thought about why you didn’t accumulate your own working capital) and this is your personal fault and by the way the problem. Why should the government correct your shortcomings if your business is not protected by your airbag for 2-3 months (this is simply unacceptable).
Now look, the state cannot pay everyone’s help (I don’t quite understand this either), but probably because there are those who simply don’t need it, or vice versa it will work and it probably went basically differently, postponing what Some payments or payments and the like to banks, tax, rent and other obligatory payments thereby creating help on time until the moment when everything settles down.
I probably understand you as a person without current work, but I can’t advise anything because you will naturally send me away and blame those who did not give you help and envy those who will get it, but this is not justice for you and naturally you are outraged by this.
The only thing is to go to the tax office to talk about a postponement, or to take a loan, or sell something from a business, or as in some cases managers pay for something at their enterprise (he is the owner). Well, somehow it’s a force majeure circumstances and should be stipulated in some paper or insurance. Maybe someone else will advise you until the close of such a risky business where you need to have a solid pillow for such occasions.

[Revival]

Well, in fairness, so in fairness on occasion

[Andrey Gurenkov]

e-mine, just read today. this tin you write. amused from the heart)
no, this is precisely agitation. humble everything: water and nettle soup))))) this is power! are these new summaries now distributed to you like that? ))))

[Irokez]

Quote: Andrey Gurenkov

this tin you write. amused from the heart)

Yes, please have fun further. This is just information, and accept it or not, your body and consciousness will tell you. To each his own. Do not worry, live how you lived, life goes on.

[Motorist]

Hello, Sergey. Proper names would be nice with a capital letter, otherwise it is somehow inconvenient to read ... On business: I recently wrote about "helping" people in Germany (leaf through my comments, there are not many of them) - it will be a double-edged sword.

[Revival]

Own name of whom?

[Motorist]

You are joking? That's all, actually. Even Hitler.

[Revival]

I prefer it this way, they were not honored, but "synonyms" cannot

[Motorist]

That's your business. True, I do not know what ordinary people in these countries have done.

For example, the United States, Germany, Spain, Italy, Canada, etc., and even Georgia!

[Revival]

In this case, it was just laziness, the thought hastened to expound

[Revival]

But it’s easier with us, the stick has one end ..

[Motorist]

Yeah, I realized, again a joke!
Have you ever taken a loan to pay taxes? In Germany, emergency workers do this sometimes.

[Andrey Gurenkov]

Quote: Irokez

You won’t believe it - I’ll very easily endure it physically, psychologically worse, but at the same time I’ll save food and health (yes, the most valuable thing). And why so, because human life doesn’t particularly need exquisite dishes and drinks and enough water, bread, vitamins in the form of fruits of vegetables and by the way even meat is not the main product for life, namely vitamins and vegetable (not chemical or GMOs ) proteins fats carbohydrates. We have been accustomed in many ways to such food that right now surrounds us everywhere and in everything, but in fact it is too much. Here is life for you and makes it possible to get used to normal food, and before that, please sit on water, water and water to cleanse the body (but this should be done periodically by the way - I recommend it). If you do not want to do this, then probably the state is doing this shock therapy for you and your health improves.

funny! that is, the right that aunt of the ball "about the benefits of macaros"? ))) But the fact that there are also children from people who will not be easy to explain that our son will not have meat now, eh. now it is useful to eat bread with water. I do not remember what my parents told me, and in 91st I went to the third grade. but every day I will remember potatoes and sauerkraut for dinner for the rest of my life. I think it was extremely difficult for my ancestors to explain about the daily benefits of absorbing these products. And this is not normal !!!

[Irokez]

Quote: Andrey Gurenkov

funny! that is, the right that aunt of the ball "about the benefits of macaros"? ))) But the fact that there are also children from people who will not be easy to explain that our son will not have meat now, eh. now it is useful to eat bread with water. I do not remember what my parents told me, and in 91st I went to the third grade. but every day I will remember potatoes and sauerkraut for dinner for the rest of my life. I think it was extremely difficult for my ancestors to explain about the daily benefits of absorbing these products. And this is not normal !!!

If you ate everything you needed in the 90s, then at the present time there are more options and choices. No need to go to extremes which right now is not. At that time, people had cottages, and they could feed themselves from the cottage without money.
And by the way, her aunt told the truth that these "macaroshkas", yes, you can live, but she did not say anything about the benefits, and she herself, of course, would not feed on them by status. So there are no contradictions between that time and today's realities, each era has its own pros and cons and opportunities.

[Terenin]

Do you really think that a normal woman who has

Quote: Lannan Shi

Two daughters, husband.

every day, on Military Review, will

Quote: Lannan Shi

in a rage and not in a panic.

reduce everything to one

Quote: Lannan Shi

Mr. Putin kicks me into a riot.

[Irokez]

Yes, it’s clear that this is someone’s avatar, as they say, to support oneself. )))

[spectr]

Is that so? This certainly did not worry. Forbid people to earn money on food, and not provide any alternative, this is purely Putin's know-how. Even the Nazis were a little more humane.

In the 90s they were worried. Then it was even cooler. Products on cards (even barley was removed from stores) and salary is every 2 - 3 months. And now it's just 3 weeks (and not everyone has it) and the end of the world has already come.

[Irokez]

I just wonder how short people have in memory.

[Golovan Jack]

Quote: Irokez

what people have short memory

The "people" with whom you are now talking walked under the table in the 90s. Where did these "people" come from - memory?

[den3080]

Quote: Irokez

I just wonder how short people have in memory.

Well. It turns out that there are only 246 enterprises in Russia. Clear. The rest of them ... "did not fit into the market", apparently, they will survive on their own.
The people have excellent memory, do not consider people fools.

[Revival]

And so he’s the new Yeltsin, well then everything is ok

[spectr]

IMHO, he is closer to Stalin, but adjusted for capitalism. I also created a system for myself. And most likely, with his departure, she will go to the dressing-up, tk. "there" are people for whom Putin is an authority, but they may not agree among themselves. That is, we will see times of post-Putin stagnation, and then, and then again, there will be a failure.

[Revival]

That is the key question, namely, that the people will survive if they have a state! This turned out to be a problem.
The people have nothing ...
Here is an example, the entrepreneurs were forbidden to work, help 0, just 0. But they sent a reminder, do not forget to pay the tax until 27.04.2020/XNUMX/XNUMX.
Why pay it?
The money is almost over.
Where is the state? Or now you are not a citizen, please treat with understanding ..
Ipshnik starve to death? Him as a citizen and taxpayer die or how, what approach? You have to eat today and tomorrow, and the day after tomorrow, and you can’t wait a week, not like a bright future.

[Malyuta]

Quote: Irokez

Do you propose to do nothing or vice versa to start at least doing something?

And here everything is simpler than simple, when we told you that everything is bad and it will be even worse, you did not believe and you chose a new old president, patamushta, if not him, then the cat. We did everything for you that we could, gave our future pensions, law-abidingly paid taxes, but unlike you, we did not expect anything from this government. Now bam! And you started shouting that you need to do something, floundering in the slush you and we were dragged into.

Quote: Irokez

You will listen so badly and we will all die soon, well, if so, then you should probably just surrender to the enemy in the hope that he will feed us for work?

We were just not going to give up, and here you are .... someone out of shortsightedness, someone out of stupidity, and someone out of handouts, they suddenly took it all and messed it up, friends messed up with enemies, good with bad, the truth with a lie .... Well, what happens ...., everyone is mistaken, it is always difficult to part with illusions, because in illusions it is sweet to live.

[Irokez]

Quote: Malyuta

And here everything is simpler than simple, when we told you that everything is bad and it will be even worse, you did not believe and you chose a new old president, patamushta, if not him, then the cat.

And you can be more specific about who "WE" and who "you" and also who is the one (the president) who will do everything according to you. Please, more specifically, everyone is waiting for the names of the candidates for the savior.

We were just not going to give up, but here you are

"We" is still more detailed "Who" handed over the USSR, sold it and then rebuilt it in a new way?
Please heroes in the studio. That is, who is not going to give up on further collapse?

[Sergej1972]

You know, the "saviors" in this situation suddenly somehow temporarily ceased to claim power.)

[Snail N9]

And not the 15% that just recently introduced?

Nope ... 15% is taxed only with the withdrawal in offshore of the currency received from income (and only from income!) From securities, insurance, bookmaker sales and currency savings (not OPERA) accounts. Operating profit is not subject to this tax (well, who will dig a hole for themselves ) ... So that- "past the cash register."

[aleks.29ru]

15 will be introduced from the new year. Give the opportunity to prepare.

[Vadim237]

The experience of the USSR to work in a warehouse - now, for sure, no one will take it.

[210ox]

Yeah. What about remedies against all misfortune? I mean the same masks, medications and much more. It is simply necessary to work at a warehouse in certain directions.

[Xnumx vis]

Comrade, believe: she will rise,
Captivating Star of Happiness,
Russia will wake up from a dream,
And on the ruins of autocracy
Write your names! Hooray ! Independence Square in Russia !!

[Malyuta]

Quote: 30 vis

Write your names! Hooray ! Independence Square in Russia !!

You and your chants-scarecrows need you on TV, only you don’t have a house in Italy and Montenegrin or British citizenship, apparently you don’t Or is there?

[Xnumx vis]

Quote: Malyuta

Quote: 30 vis

Write your names! Hooray ! Independence Square in Russia !!

You and your chants-scarecrows need you on TV, only you don’t have a house in Italy and Montenegrin or British citizenship, apparently you don’t Or is there?

You basically criticize everything ... Every half-mind can criticize .. It's a winning business and not tricky ... What exactly, what program, who is your leader. What do you want . What do you offer . Explain .. To the people! Shaking the air in righteous anger is easy and not for what you do not answer .. unpretentious work ...

[Irokez]

Quote: 30 vis

Hooray ! Independence Square in Russia !!

Tipun to your tongue. Want to ride the last one?

[Malyuta]

Quote: Irokez

Tipun to your tongue. Want to ride the last one?

Here's an interesting movie, it’s now that the guards are jumping for their offshore oligarchs, and those who didn’t plan to jump again will be recorded in the white-bellows and maydanuty. So not everyone understands the depth of the depths.

[Irokez]

Quote: Malyuta

now it’s just the guards who are jumping for the oligarchs of their offshore

The most interesting is another. You and I dream about and think about one thing, but you live in the past and think about the past, but I’m probably more real and try to come up with the same ideas and arrangement of the society you dream about.
The goal is one, but the vision of access to it is different. That is the problem.

[Malyuta]

Quote: Irokez

The most interesting is another. You and I dream about and think about one thing, but you live in the past and think about the past, but I’m probably more real and try to come up with the same ideas and arrangement of the society you dream about.

Colleague, if all the husk is discarded, then here, almost without exception, for everything good and against everything bad, as in the joke, He and She stood on the bridge, They wanted one, but each wanted differently.

Quote: Irokez

The goal is one, but the vision of access to it is different. That is the problem.

The whole problem is that someone does not want to see who controls us, and when he sees, he will be horrified, not every psyche can withstand it.

[Irokez]

So discard the husks of the past, look carefully from the side whether it is possible to take and wave your saber without having received at the same time a complete quartering from every dark corner both in the country itself and from outside. China doesn’t take it in a completely different way, and they never had the democracy virus than in our 90s dermovirus was launched by salesmen from the USSR.
And by the way, where is the list of those who will manage us in a new way, otherwise we see and criticize the old ones, but there are no proposals for new ones.

[210ox]

Great. Here he is the first citizen on our forum requiring hohlomaidan!

[lucul]

As a result, we will find offshores of Deripassa, Usman, Potanin, Mordash and other Michelsons.

And where are the Russians on this list? )))
As long as our elite is foreigners, money will always be transferred abroad ...

[Sergej1972]

Deripaska, Potanin, Mordashov.

[lucul]

Deripaska, Potanin, Mordashov.

There is no need to breed hutspu here, none of these three are Russian, yes, Russians, but not Russian.

[Sergej1972]

They are ethnic Russians.

[lucul]

They are ethnic Russians.

The same ethnic as the late Berezovsky)))

[Sergej1972]

I’m not going to prove anything to you, you yourself can find materials on this topic on the Internet. And yes, Lisin is also Russian.

[lucul]

I’m not going to prove anything to you, you yourself can find materials on this topic on the Internet. And yes, Lisin is also Russian.

And I don’t need to prove, only the blind man will not see, you still say that Poroshenko is Ukrainian.

[CSKA]

Quote: Malyuta

The experience of the USSR was absolutely ruined, destroyed and forgotten.

Experience what? Private business support? The USSR did not have such an experience.

Quote: Malyuta

In this situation, Gosplan would greatly help

Yeah, that would help a lot. He helped the USSR well, that thanks to him there was a shortage.

Quote: Malyuta

And now the sparse truth of life, all the "help" provided will safely go away, like a colander to offshore accounts under a 2% tax.

Yes of course. How Kalashnikov, Uralvagonzavod, Zvezda LLC, Tyazhmash JSC, Avtomatika concern, RTI JSC, Almaz-Antey concern, Russian Helicopters JSC, United Aircraft Building Company, JSC AvtoVAZ, PJSC KamAZ belong to offshore?

[Mordvin 3]

Quote: CSKA

AvtoVAZ JSC

Who belongs to?

[CSKA]

Quote: Mordvin 3

Who belongs to?

67,61% - Renault (France) and 32,39% - Rostec (Russia). So what? Someone said that only state-owned enterprises will support?

[Mordvin 3]

Quote: CSKA

Someone said that only state-owned enterprises will support?

Wow, damn it ... The Chinese have built a car factory here. Only young were recruited. Those who are over forty do not shine. And what the hell should foreigners be supported for?

[CSKA]

Quote: Mordvin 3

Wow, damn it ... The Chinese have built a car factory here. Only young were recruited. Those who are over forty do not shine. And what the hell should foreigners be supported for?

Specifically for AvtoVAZ. These are thousands of jobs and partly owned by a state corporation, and you propose not to support it? Specifically for the Chinese. Tell me the name of the company and why did you get the idea that the Russian Federation will help it. And note, too, Russian citizens work there.

[Mordvin 3]

Quote: CSKA

Specifically for the Chinese. Company name say

Hevel. They don’t take me or a classmate there, even though we have been a car mechanic for 20 years. Only young people are recruited there.

[CSKA]

Quote: Mordvin 3

Hevel. They don’t take me or a classmate there, even though we have been a car mechanic for 20 years. Only young people are recruited there.

The government is not to blame for this, but the Hevel company, and also it is not necessary that they are not suitable for age.

[Mordvin 3]

Quote: CSKA

that age did not fit.

Both of us with experience working at a car company. Both of us over 45 years. Both wrote profiles there. But the young without experience gained. I worked as an assembler at a car enterprise, a friend as an engine driver. That's it. Now, a friend as a watchman wipes his pants for 15 thousand, and as a motorcyclist, I pump water to the cottagers for summer residents and serve the pipes. That is, the law on acceptance-dismissal of people with age does not apply. Instead of our enterprise, now it’s a clean field. The government passed a law on the prevention of age discrimination. Why doesn’t she monitor the implementation of her own laws? However, the question is rhetorical, you can not answer.

[CSKA]

Quote: Mordvin 3

That is, the law on acceptance-dismissal of people with age does not apply.

First of all, are you sure you weren’t taken because of age? Secondly, in order for it to act, you must contact the authority where to present evidence that you were not taken because of age.

[st2st]

The namesake, everything was correctly written in his post, only, what to do with the food industry, (Amur Region), we, with China, had established supplies of products. Now, the shank is full, the damage is damaging. And, no one will compensate the middle class for these losses.

[Irokez]

I can’t answer anything to your comment. Let's hope that everything works out for you. Tests such as this hour are very rare and people forget about them and stop thinking hoping for a chance.

[st2st]

The list of enterprises and structures that need state assistance has infuriated. The middle class - in jo ... u, Private traders - in jo ... u Only enterprises affiliated with officials in the higher sphere. I’m silent about Putin’s cooks.

[Mordvin 3]

Quote: Irokez

Let's hope that everything works out for you.

You seem to crawl into your own coffin and mutter that everything will work out.

[Irokez]

Quote: Mordvin 3

you will mutter that everything will work out.

Well, will you climb silently?

[Mordvin 3]

Quote: Irokez

Well, will you climb silently?

Silently.

[CSKA]

Quote: st2st

The namesake, everything was correctly written in his post, only, what to do with the food industry, (Amur Region), we, with China, had established supplies of products. Now, the shank is full, the damage is damaging. And, no one will compensate the middle class for these losses.

In the Amur region there is no food industry at all? I just do not own the information. On the spot, the government should look for a way out of the situation. Soft loans for small and medium-sized businesses apply to all sectors. With attempts, but began to issue. For example, anyone should have bakeries. They probably bought wheat from Altai, and not from China.

[st2st]

Seryozha, the fact of the matter is that Altai flour is more expensive, and Chinese is cheaper. Now bakery products are 10% more expensive, plus even more expensive benz. Someone will explain to me, after all, how, at a minus price of oil, when benz is becoming cheaper all over the world, in Russia, only more expensive fuel and lubricants? I am not an economist, but even I understand that this is the next government cheating, where someone lobbies the interests of their unnamed owners

[Sergej1972]

Food industry will not be lost.

[Sotskiy]

Quote: Irokez

In short, we need to take the experience of the USSR, that is, take the best and implement it

But Chubais and Co. were not fighting, hammering nails into the coffin of the Soviet economy with "privatization" in order to take the best from there, and even more so to introduce them.

[Uruguay]

Quote: Irokez

In addition, ensure the chains and interconnections of all industries to ensure sufficient independence from imports, and especially food.
In short, we need to take the experience of the USSR, that is, take the best and implement it.

Well written !!! Your words and the authorities’s ears would shout, and bang your fist to get it ..!

[sanik2020]

The state is obliged to help and protect state-owned enterprises, but in order to help private capital, it is imperative to print and bring your offshore money-box to the country to save its own property.

[Malyuta]

Quote: sanik2020

but to help private capital, a prerequisite is necessary, to print and bring your offshore money-box to the country to save your own property.

Yes, indeed, do you really naively believe that the trillions stolen in the country and taken to offshore, London and Cyprus will be voluntarily returned to the Russian Federation? To put it mildly, it’s just naive to think so.

[DMB 75]

Here it is corruption - only the necessary comrades and those close to the body were pushed through ... Judging by the list, these are enterprises lobbied by officials. Judging by the list, our system is poor.

[Malyuta]

Quote: DMB 75

Judging by the list, a bad system has formed in us.

How so? Are you kidding!!! There can be no bad system with a good leader, but this is not accurate.

[New Year day]

Casinos, hopefully removed?

[Malyuta]

Quote: Silvestr

Casinos, hopefully removed?

Casinos are one of the bureaucratic bonds, how can you imagine thimbles without their means of production? This cannot be! After all, how will they be able to live if they do not inhale with a breast through the nose a couple of paths of Argentine cement by using a damned green piece of paper if they do not lose / win a pair of millions of stolen goods per day?

[knn54]

Adidas, Leroy Merlin and MacDonalds. We will help abroad.
And ... Fonbet. How can we, at such a time, without bookmakers.
Also refer to well-known Russian companies ...

[Thrifty]

Knn54 -You got ahead of my comment! all this shusharya foreign from such lists must be removed! As from the country!

[DMB 75]

What, did they leave the fonbet? Darkness ... And sosa solu with the Baltic and others like them? Disappointment, this is not the right word ...

[Gray brother]

Quote: knn54

We will help abroad.

So they pay taxes here. And apparently they are not paying sickly, since they are on the list.

[210ox]

Those who registered this guano in the lists of enterprises are not sickly.

[Gray brother]

Quote: 210ox

Those who registered this guano in the lists of enterprises are not sickly.

I looked at the list. Something did not find such.

[Gardamir]

http://minpromtorg.gov.ru/activities/sistema/
here is a link to significant

[Gardamir]

The production of playgrounds, the production of toys, are these socially significant enterprises?

[Gray brother]

Quote: Gardamir

The production of playgrounds, the production of toys, are these socially significant enterprises?

Is not it so?

[Horst78]

Ahhhh ... What kind of information without information ???
Direct link: http://minpromtorg.gov.ru/activities/sistema/

[Thrifty]

Well, the main thing is that all sorts of McDonald's, ikei, and other foreigners are not on this list! They will leave our market — we won’t cry, for a holy place does not happen!

[Lannan Shi]

Quote: Thrifty

Well, the main thing is that all sorts of McDonald's, ikei, and other foreigners are not on this list!

Well, for example, a vaz, also golimnaya foreignism ... The French. More than 2/3. Why should Renault, with a profit of 2.5 yards of euro over the past year, not take care of saving its assets on its own?

[Varyag71]

Here on Ikea there is no need to drive! Very affordable and quality products

[Paranoid50]

Quote: Varyag71

Ikea does not need to drive!

Swedish evil will bring suffering
To those who are pure in soul.
BAU "Travel to IKEA"

[AU Ivanov.]

Nothing that the majority of IKEA products for our market are manufactured in Russia? Quality goods at affordable prices.

[New Year day]

In the future, other enterprises that meet the established criteria can be added to the list.

studying ...
210 Asia Music Company LLC ---- design of sound and lighting design for nightclubs, entertainment centers, bars and discos, supply and installation of equipment and musical instruments for theaters and philharmonic societies, complete set and installation of recording studios, development, supply and installation of the complex equipment and conference systems for business centers, exhibition complexes, conference halls, sports facilities and hotels, rental of concert equipment, technical support for concerts and touring tours of any complexity.

is it obvious that this is vital right now?

[DMB 75]

Yes, there are a lot of such ones. It can not cause anything but indignation. It's like investing in the US national debt - at least, not smart, like maximum betrayal ...

[Doctor]

is it obvious that this is vital right now?

Perhaps there is something that is not in advertising. Equipment command posts for example. Although unlikely.

[Snail N9]

is it obvious that this is vital right now?

Who (or whose representatives) stood, crowded around the armchair of those persons who made this "notorious" list, whispering into their ears about their "need-necessity" - that turned out to be, and "slippers". On YaP with sarcasm, people comment on this list in the sense that for some reason, enterprises of "single-industry towns" were not included there ... Add here and little (for some reason) mentioned in the media "Rottenberg's law", and .... completely it becomes sour in my soul ...

[AUL]

Quote: Snail N9

Who (or whose representatives) stood, crowded around the armchair of those persons who made this "notorious" list, whispering into their ears about their "need-need" - that turned out to be, and "slippers".

Interestingly, who composed and approved this list? The country should know its heroes by name! And how much did it cost to be included in this list?

[Mordvin 3]

Quote: Snail N9

rottenberg's law

And what is this tsidul?

[ALARI]

The answer is simple, you need to see who is the founder or to whom it belongs.

[Sotskiy]

Quote: Silvestr

is it obvious that this is vital right now?

Think in perspective. Then quarantine will end, how will people tear, how to tear on strawberries, but is there no music? Mess!

[Freeman]

Quote: Silvestr

In the future, other enterprises that meet the established criteria can be added to the list.

studying ...
210 Asia Music Company LLC ---- design of sound and light design for nightclubs, entertainment centers, bars and discos, supply and installation of equipment and musical instruments for theaters and philharmonic societies, assembly and installation of recording studios, development, delivery and installation of a complex of equipment and conference systems for business centers, exhibition centers, conference rooms, sports facilities and hotels, rental of concert equipment, technical support for concerts and tours of any complexity.

is it obvious that this is vital right now?

Well, who else, in your opinion, should organize "rallies-concerts" and "direct lines"?

"The most important of the arts" in modern Russia is not "cinema" (with it, the further - the worse)
- A PR-Show.
How will we celebrate our achievements, communicate with the "people", and whip up patriotism?

[BIABIA]

I work at a factory producing packaging for dairy products. The plant fell into the chain of enterprises producing essential goods. The plant is private, no one is going to close. No king will force cows to give milk. And it needs to be poured somewhere. While we live ...

[Vadim237]

You can be calm about milk this year, the need for food will increase.

[Cheldon]

Quote: Vadim237

You can be calm about milk this year, the need for food will increase.

After 9 months, not earlier.

[sanik2020]

Yes, indeed, do you really naively believe that the trillions stolen in the country and taken to offshore, London and Cyprus will be voluntarily returned to the Russian Federation? To put it mildly, it’s just naive to think so.

That's just what I don’t think, I say there should be a requirement to invest my savings in saving my own property, only the state could help such owners. But it will not be so.

[Mountain shooter]

Well, this is obvious, such a list ... it seems to me, or the idea of ​​"the market will regulate everything" finally disappeared from the heads of our chief economists?

[APASUS]

In particular, it included the Kalashnikov concern, Uralvagonzavod, Zvezda LLC, Tyazhmash JSC, Avtomatika concern, RTI JSC, Almaz-Antey concern, Russian Helicopters JSC, United Aircraft Building company ”, AvtoVAZ JSC, KamAZ PJSC and a number of other well-known Russian companies.

I’m looking at a little list here. Guys like Almaz-Antey, even if they incur losses, are not critical. But if the collective farm does not go to the sowing season or the fishermen stand for a month, they’ll have to cover themselves with a copper basin

[Freeman]

APASUS (Pavo) Today, 13:05 PM
I’m looking at a little list here. The guys like Almaz-Antey, even if they incur losses, are not critical.Now, if the collective farm does not go to the sowing season or the fishermen rise for a month then they’ll have to cover themselves with a copper basin

This list is only from MINPROMTORG.
Therefore, it does not have agricultural enterprises and food industry enterprises. They pass through another department.
Each agency submits its list for inclusion in the federal.

[AlexSam]

Quote: Malyuta

And here everything is simpler than simple, when we told you that everything is bad and will be even worse, you did not believe and you chose a new old president

you forgive us moral freaks for not choosing Ksyusha sobchak or the red oligarch and thereby depriving you of the opportunity to pay and repent, joyfully greeting pederast demonstrations on the streets that your children will not be told at school that the pederast sounds proudly, but in general for everything ... we buried your dream that with the coming to power of the terry liberal all these grefs, Silouans, curls, Nabiullins and other liberal scum will be sent to the gallows, the central bank will become national, like all the assets of the oligarchs, one fa even more monuments and memorials will be erected for the schists, Crimea will be returned to other fascists and, in addition, half the country, and the remaining half of the country will be leased out to transnational corporations for an unlimited time ... sorry for everything ...
Well, I repented ... please publish the bill, I want, as far as possible and able, to compensate you for the loss of your future pensions ...

[Andrey Gurenkov]

something you strongly dreamed about. about homosexuals, Crimea, gender. countries and so on, say with the "red oligarch" .. so, what Putin and co offers, can you explain to the poor? let's say about the same central bank, liberal governance? what plans, the population does not see any changes (well, I don’t see), the morale seems to be falling. here already the 90s began to puff up (they say not quite - so, the breeze is blowing) :)))) the problem is that under Putin, nothing is clear what's next ...

[Amateur]

Muzykant, LLC is registered at 119180, Moscow, Polyanka B. str., 2, building 2, apt. 24, 119180. GENERAL DIRECTOR of the organization Limited Liability Company "MUSICANT" Somov Yuri Vyacheslavovich. The main activity of the company is retail trade of musical instruments and sheet music in specialized stores. Also Musician, LLC works in 22 more directions. The size of the authorized capital is 40 rubles.

AFIGET what is important among

backbone organizations of the Russian economy

I didn’t even look further. Nasty

[spectr]

But taxes for 2018 are 206 million.
As I understand it, they included those who are either expensive to restore, or taxes are normally deducted. Well, of course, the "blatniks" also hit, if they managed to justify their need.

[Freeman]

Quote: Amateur

Muzykant, LLC is registered at 119180, Moscow, Polyanka B. str., 2, building 2, apt. 24, 119180. GENERAL DIRECTOR of the organization Limited Liability Company "MUSICANT" Somov Yuri Vyacheslavovich. The main activity of the company is retail trade of musical instruments and sheet music in specialized stores. Also Musician, LLC works in 22 more directions. The size of the authorized capital is 40 rubles.

AFIGET what is important among

backbone organizations of the Russian economy

I didn’t even look further. Nasty

Gee!
And who will organize the celebration of victory over "Polovtsy and Pechenegs" "this infection, coronavirus" ?!

[Amateur]

And who will organize the celebration of victory

They are not an orchestra. They are "Music Store" + trade in musical instruments. Only if you need musical instruments after a showdown, who is better at self-isolation

[Freeman]

Quote: Amateur

And who will organize the celebration of victory

They are not an orchestra. They are "Music Store" + trade in musical instruments. Only if you need musical instruments after a showdown, who is better at self-isolation

Voooot!
Although, proceeding from the fact that to look for a way out of the current situation, citizens are offered themselves, and the "authorities" offer basically only measures to limit - as a "measure of support", they can also offer this:

We will put you in a tub
Throw in the sea - and Adyu!
You’ll get around the tub,
Do not give you a boat!
And carry you
Straight to the island on Buyan!
Well, so as not to run wild,
Here is my personal button accordion.
True, he is my fault! -
Doesn't play a damn thing
But no
And you need a culture!
/ L. Filatov /

Well, "Holiday Fanfare", among the "powers that be", will soon be in great demand.
And it doesn't matter what we will "celebrate" - "zrada or peremogu"

[yfast]

This list is all friends of friends know yourself whom.

[evgen1221]

And on this list are there any astrologers and fortune-tellers? —And what is also a small business with big cash turnover.

[Andrey Gurenkov]

Quote: Golovan Jack

Quote: Irokez

what people have short memory

The "people" with whom you are now talking walked under the table in the 90s. Where did these "people" come from - memory?

so they scared me with 90s if someone yelled: forgot how they said in the 90s? your memory is short. scared like a child by a granny. that is, the main merit of the government and Putin, that now the times are better than in the 90s (yes, really better). and now the 90s is practically a reality. and now what will scare us with? :)

[Irokez]

Quote: Andrey Gurenkov

and now the 90s is practically a reality. and now what will scare us with? :)

Not-e-my friend is not the 90s - it's so a breeze.

[Andrey Gurenkov]

wait a minute, why not the 90s? they’re not allowed to work, but payment upon completion of work. just don’t say that everyone can raise money in a small egg. Mortgage heard what?

[Andrey Gurenkov]

[quote = Irokez]
If you ate everything you needed in the 90s, then at the present time there are more options and choices.
[/ Quote]
in the sense of all that is needed? what year of birth are you, sorry?
in the 90s, goods began to appear (this was not an assortment in the USSR). as now, there were no special problems with the products.
The fact was that the money simply did not pay. and reached up to six months at some enterprises.


[quote = Irokez]
At that time, people had cottages, and they could feed themselves from the cottage without money.
[/ Quote]
I did not have a summer residence.

[quote = Irokez]
And by the way, her aunt told the truth that these "macaroshkas", yes, you can live, but she did not say anything about the benefits, and she herself, of course, would not feed on them by status. So there are no contradictions of that time and today's realities, each era has its pros and cons and opportunities. [/ Quote]
[/ Quote]
Well, okay. cynicism of the highest degree!

[Irokez]

Quote: Andrey Gurenkov

Well, okay. cynicism of the highest degree!

Where do you see cynicism?
I simply retold her words and confirmed them in view of the fact that yes it is really possible. But I do not urge you to eat like that and I don’t advise anyone. If you deny that a person will live on pasta for a month, then disprove by proving that a person will die.
You grab individual phrases and throw them, and omit the general meaning of the writing by manipulating the meaning of the general comment. You can live with buckwheat and potatoes and breadcrumbs and this is a fact, like pasta, that is, cheap pasta made from grain. Why are you stirring up some kind of cynicism?

Well, the following. If in the USSR there was a shortage of goods, then in the 90s there was a shortage of money, but if there is no one of the components of goods-money, then you will still be hungry, therefore summer residences, kitchen gardens, part-time jobs and other things saved everyone. Who did not have cottages, well, it means there weren’t. But cheap bread was always like milk, kefir with fermented baked milk and so on.

[Andrey Gurenkov]

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Well, okay. cynicism of the highest degree!

Where do you see cynicism?
I simply retold her words and confirmed them in view of the fact that yes it is really possible. But I do not urge you to eat like that and I don’t advise anyone. If you deny that a person will live on pasta for a month, then disprove by proving that a person will die.
You grab individual phrases and throw them, and omit the general meaning of the writing by manipulating the meaning of the general comment. You can live with buckwheat and potatoes and breadcrumbs, and this is a fact, like macaroni, that is, cheap macaroni made from grain. Why are you stirring up some kind of cynicism?

Well, the following. If in the USSR there was a shortage of goods, then in the 90s there was a shortage of money, but if there is no one of the components of goods-money, then you will still be hungry, therefore summer residences, kitchen gardens, part-time jobs and other things saved everyone. Who did not have cottages, well, it means there weren’t.

a little bit wrong. man will not survive, but man will survive. do you feel the difference? Why don’t you call? it’s not you who wrote that improve your health, for example, about cleansing something there. Is this not a plus ??? or calls sound different?
and then how do you explain to the children that you should eat bread, pasta and water (well, good tea)?

but I consider it arrogant cynicism, even a spit in the soul. for this this little bureaucrat was flooded by the way.

[Andrey Gurenkov]

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Do you really think that a normal woman who has

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Two daughters, husband.

every day, on Military Review, will

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in a rage and not in a panic.

reduce everything to one

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Mr. Putin kicks me into a riot.

maybe a bot, or maybe not. we cannot prove. but is such a situation real? I think quite (2 daughters and no work). because my family really was in a similar situation in the 90s