For Chinese fighters of the new generation, J-31 chose the final color

In China, work continues on the creation of a fifth-generation fighter J-31 (aka FC31). This combat vehicle was conceived as an option to equip future Chinese aircraft carriers.

As noted by Chinese media, many in China themselves felt that the J-31 could eventually be rivals for other new generation aircraft - the J-20. However, it is not". For J-31 (FC31), the deck “niche” is defined primarily. It is planned that such fighters will be able to form the basis of the wing of aircraft carriers under construction Type002, Type003 and those that are being prepared for bookmark.

Recall that earlier it was reported that China was ready to build six of its own aircraft carriers in the coming years. One of them is already built. This is Type001A, dubbed "Shandong."

Introduced a new generation fighter J-31 differs updated version of the paint. If the first built and tested aircraft of this version were painted black, now they decided to completely change the color to gray.

Previously, FC31 in gray were shown at air shows.

Chinese experts note that the color change of the aircraft "indicates that they are planned to be used in the PLA Navy." There is currently no official confirmation that the J-31 fighters will arm exclusively with the Chinese naval forces.

Meanwhile, China is criticizing the pace of J-31 aircraft. It was noted that for eight years not a single one was put into service, which may indicate, among other things, the presence of certain technical problems. The main problem that was mentioned earlier is related to engine thrust.

Comments

[knn54]

But with the paint decided.

[V.I.P.]

But is it not so in the Russian Federation? Su-57 and MiG-35 painted so what? Nobody needs an instant, not even a MO. And when Su appears in the troops in China, there will be J-20/31 regiments ... ...

[Zaurbek]

With a MiG some sort of hat .... they were pompously presented, produced a couple of pieces, ordered more than 30 pieces and the silence is complete!

[NEOZ]

Quote: Zaurbek

With a MiG some sort of hat ....

how would you like?

[Zaurbek]

I believe that if presented and ordered, then the work should be visible ..... up to 15 pcs / year they can, like, do. Those. order, taking into account the tests, for 3-4 years .... When was the presentation?

[NEOZ]

Quote: Zaurbek

I believe that if

and if the MiG35 is not much cheaper than the SU35, but much worse in terms of performance characteristics .... then how?

[Zaurbek]

Well, except for the range, it was (is) not much worse ... but there is also a factor that:
1. Trite is not enough aircraft and Sukhoi are not enough ....
2. Su35C is not suitable for foreign tenders ... but Rafal, F18, F16 are suitable .... by size.

[bayard]

Quote: NEOZ

and if the MiG35 is not much cheaper than the SU35

This was expected, but the MiG-35 was mainly considered as export. At present, about 120 MiG-29 of various modifications remain in the Russian Aerospace Forces, and these regiments must be re-equipped with the new MiG-35 because the infrastructure and refueling equipment are the same and flying, and it will be easier to retrain the technical staff. Thus, the very fact that the MiG-35 was adopted by the Russian Aerospace Forces will play an advertising role for the sales of this pepelats. For the money spent on it and the plane turned out, therefore there should be a series.
In addition, in comparison with the Su-35, it is necessary to take into account not only the purchase cost, but also the cost of operation and the life cycle as a whole. In addition, he has an AFAR, unlike the Su-35, which is also a plus in the characteristics, especially in terms of noise immunity.
But for the future, it is necessary to design a light fighter with only one engine, preferably with the "Product-30" from the Su-57. So it will be much cheaper, easier to maintain and will make a positive contribution to the unification of power plants.

And a twin-engine LIGHT fighter in modern conditions cannot be cheap by definition and is justified only for carrier-based aviation of classic heavy aircraft carriers ... This is to Serdyukov’s statements about MiG's task to create such an aircraft.

[strelokmira]

In addition, he has an AFAR, unlike the Su-35, which is also a plus in the characteristics

for the Russian Aerospace Forces there is a version with the Zhuk-M radar

[tomket]

Quote: NEOZ

and if the MiG35 is not much cheaper than the SU35, but much worse in terms of performance characteristics .... then how?

but there are proofs that it is just as expensive and much worse? Well, except "I think so."

[Ros 56]

Said everything? Well, now to my banderlog.

[Pavel57]

The main thing is that the suit is sitting.

[APASUS]

It sounds strange. It is not clear what kind of troops the machine will be used for, but whether it will be accepted for service. Everything is tied to the color of the paint, as if this is the main parameter of the technical characteristics, complete nonsense!

[krops777]

Everything is tied to the color of the paint, as if this is the main parameter of the TTX, complete nonsense!

Well, as you would like, immediately plus 500kg of traction.

[voyaka uh]

Forgot to mention in the article that the J-31 is a 5th generation stealth.
Copied, as far as it turned out, F-35A. Engine only
they do not have powerful. I had to put two.

[Vol4ara]

Quote: voyaka uh

Forgot to mention in the article that the J-31 is a 5th generation stealth.
Copied, as far as it turned out, F-35A. Engine only
they do not have powerful. I had to put two.

What's the difference?

[voyaka uh]

Indeed, what is the difference between a 3rd generation or 5th airplane?
The main thing is that it should be painted correctly.

[Vladimir_2U]

Quote: voyaka uh

Copied as far as it turned out

it is not copied, but creatively recycled. )))

[Kasym]

And the F-35 with the Yak-141?

[voyaka uh]

Turn the engine nozzle 90 degrees down
borrowed from Yak.
But instead of two additional small jet engines
put a fan driven by an engine.

[Kasym]

That's it. Also, the Chinese - that they considered necessary, then adopted.

[tomket]

Quote: voyaka uh

Forgot to mention in the article that the J-31 is a 5th generation stealth.
Copied, as far as it turned out, F-35A. Engine only
they do not have powerful. I had to put two.

And do not share the proofs, when and who handed over the blueprints of the f-35 to the Chinese? Well, since you are saying here that it is copied, you probably know about the details of the operation. Well, maybe someone from yours sold a couple of hundred yuan of technical documentation, you never know ....

[voyaka uh]

No one handed over. The Chinese themselves hacked when the plane was in the initial
stages before production. This was an article in the open press.
The fact of hacking was recognized by the Pentagon.
Not everyone managed to hack - more on electronics. This info was used and
for the J-20 and for the J-31.

[sanik2020]

And they decided on the paint and the engines will bring to mind, they themselves will not finish, copy or buy a license and then modify it, so as not to pay for the license. The main thing is that they have an understanding of the appearance of what and in what quantities they need for specific types of actions.

[allegro]

I agree with you, we don’t have any appearance or goals

[Zaurbek]

There still looms the stealth option FT-17 ..... China with an assortment of the 5th generation will still eclipse all

[voyaka uh]

There still looms vertical. The main gap is the Chinese Air Force.

[Altona]

In my opinion, they decided not to be smart with color, but stupidly reproduce the Americans in color. They have all this for a long time in a gray color scheme.

[Peter is not the first]

They also reduced the color. Well, the Chinese, well done.

[Thrifty]

And in what place is this non-motorized 5th generation airplane? A copy of a copy, a form, as well as the contents are stolen, including from us, like from the same us! Not one Chinese airplane is not even a 5th generation aircraft! For it is impossible to build a REAL fighter without having its own aircraft design school - there will always be disgusting copies "under oreginal" !!!

[yfast]

Then the rogues for 3/4 of the price from F35 will be steamed. And those whom the states will dynamite.

[Sniper Amateur]

Not one Chinese aircraft and is not near the 5th generation aircraft!

Only now the first combat regiment on the J-20 is already re-equipped. Unlike...

[Sniper Amateur]

They write that:
China refuses to build aircraft carriers
https://www.popmech.ru/weapon/news-528454-kitay-otkazyvaetsya-ot-stroitelstva-avianoscev/