“Made in China” is not always bad. The history and training of Chinese special forces

The beginning of the creation and development of special forces in China can be considered the middle of the 80s of the last century, when the Military Council of the Central Committee of the Communist Party of the country, headed by Deng Xiaoping, decided that the national armed forces could not take part in an armed conflict with all arms of service. . Soon, the well-known events in the Persian Gulf began, which was also one of the reasons why the government was forced to rethink the military concept, as well as the role played by the Chinese armed forces in the world.

From the situation that existed at that time it was concluded that there might be a short-lived high-tech conflict on the outskirts of the state. Based on this, the first special forces unit was formed in 1988 in the Guanzhong Military District.

To date, all the special forces units that exist in China are distributed among seven military districts. Each regiment consists of three battalions, the total number of which is one thousand people. In addition, each level of military units has its own special forces. In the case there is a special battalion (there are 18 300-400 people in each), in the brigade there is a special company (about 120 people), in the regiment there is a special platoon (about 30-40 people).

Thus, there is the following distribution of special forces regiments in military districts: in the Shanyang military district - the “Dunbei tiger”, in Nanking - the “Flying dragon”, in Beijing - the “Magic sword of the East”, in the Lanzhou - the “Night tiger”, in the military district Guangzhou - "The sharp sword of southern China", in the Chengdu region - "Falcon" and in the military district of Jinan - "Hawk".

In addition to these special forces, the special forces include the Air Sharp Sword of the Blue Sky and the forces of the Marine Special Forces Impact Marine Special Forces. In addition, there are other units in the Chinese armed forces, which, despite the fact that they are not officially related to the special forces, are being trained under the program (albeit lightweight) by special forces. At the same time, this program is much more complicated than the training program for ordinary soldiers. Such units include the 63-I, 162-I and 149-I divisions of high readiness, as well as 1-I, 38-I, 39-I and 34-I rapid response army (by the way, are the most combat-ready and equipped armies currently in China).

In addition, there are special units of the armed police in the country, which are part of the armed forces. And there are special forces that are under the control of the Ministry of Public Security - these are special forces of the public security forces.

As for the training of special forces of China directly, it is carried out at a very high professional level. A clear proof of this can be one moment in stories. This happened when the 32 fighters of the Sokol Special Forces unit were sent to Afghanistan to carry out an operation to free the Chinese workers taken hostage. And, despite the fact that there is no official evidence of this operation, in one of the periodicals it was written about how the Chinese special forces managed to free the hostages without a single shot and, moreover, capture the terrorists. The actions of Chinese special forces were highly appreciated by the special services of the United States of America.

Such high marks have largely become a reality due to the fact that the Chinese system of training special forces soldiers has no analogues anywhere in the world. A special technique was developed by the PLA General Staff, and the features of each unit were taken into account. A feature of the technique is also the fact that each workout is designed in such a way as to gradually increase the psychological and physical stress to the maximum level. And, moreover, the Chinese military-political leadership itself is confident that the preparation of the country's special forces is one of the best in the world.

The whole special forces training program can be divided into two parts - professional and combat.

The combat component is the whole complex of physical exercises for the test of strength, agility and endurance, as well as hand-to-hand combat and self-defense without the use of weapons, survival classes in extreme field conditions, overcoming the water area in full gear, climbing training, the ability to use all types of small arms, digging shelters, tents, medical care, methods of ambushes, attacks.

In addition, landing and ski training is also carried out (it is carried out in all weather conditions, even at -40 degrees).

In addition, commandos are taught to navigate the terrain, using a compass, and also without it, to read maps.

But, perhaps. The most interesting and difficult stage of training is the training of survival skills and the staging of breathing and body movements in a bound state in water. Unfortunately, a detailed description of such a method can not be found anywhere, but it can be concluded that special training of the special forces of the naval forces.

It is worth noting that the process of training fighters is very hard. And, by and large, not everyone can stand it. Judge for yourself. The rise of the fighters takes place in the morning 4.30. After an hour and a half, everyone goes to run for long distances or else they climb a mountain. While running, each fighter must have at least a dozen bricks in his backpack, and the five-kilometer distance must be covered in 25 minutes and no more. This run is repeated in the evening.

When the run ends, another exercise begins, which has the name “Iron palm”. Its essence lies in striking the bag with beans at least 300 once, and then applying the same number of blows to the bag with iron filings. Only during the first stage of preparation, each fighter inflicts about 15 thousands of blows with the palm, as a result of which the skin becomes covered with calluses and becomes insensitive. If wounds appear, they are treated with special medical solutions. Similar exercises in the later stages of training are carried out on the elbows, fists, feet and knees.

Another exercise that the special forces are required to perform is breaking the wooden bars with their heads. And if at the beginning of training the bars are made of soft wood, then they are replaced with more solid ones. Thus, after completing the full course of the program, each fighter can break bottles and even bricks with his head.

In addition, the training program includes such exercises as climbing a brick wall five-storey high without using aids for half a minute, swimming 5 kilometers with full equipment for 1 an hour 20 minutes, jumping in a bag 10 kilometers from tied with legs and equipment, the weight of which is 4,5 kilogram, overcoming 3,5 kilometers in full equipment of the broken wet mountain road. In addition, special forces are required to perform such exercises as push-ups from a prone position (at least 100 times), lifting a crossbar (200 times), push-ups on uneven bars (200 times), lifting 35-kilogram grenades (60 times), throwing grenades on 50 meters (100 times).

The training program for Chinese special forces also includes classes on sabotage and subversive training, work with explosives, their installation and neutralization, as well as scuba diving and penetration of water into an object using improvised means - logs, barrels, inflatable boats.

Of great interest is also the process of learning the skills of surviving Chinese special forces soldiers. So, for example, the situation when a small group of fighters (of the order of 6-7 people) is very typical is for the special forces. Before going to a training session, they should take with them all the necessary equipment, a minimum of products (usually there is a list of what you can take with you). This group is moving forward on a large march, the purpose of which is to overcome the 7 kilometers in about a day in 200. In this case, their shape should be tightly buttoned, because the terrain is rich in poisonous snakes and insects. Water suitable for drinking, they must also find their own. And very often you have to eat snakes, mice and ants.

But that's not all. In addition to overcoming such a long distance in such difficult conditions, the team must perform at least two dozen different tasks, including storming, capturing the "language", identifying and bypassing enemy ambushes.

In short, such a training of Chinese special forces. From all it follows that popular rumor for good reason dubbed the process of training the fighters of special forces of China "descent to hell."

Materials used:
http://blackteam.su/node/437
http://topwar.ru/604-kitajskij-specnaz.html
http://tchest.org/special_forces/451-trenirovka-specnaza-kitaya.html

Comments

[Tirpitz]

Serious guys article +

[Skiff]

As for the direct preparation of the special forces of China, it is carried out at a very high professional level. A vivid proof of this can serve as one moment in history. This happened when 32 fighters of the Falcon special forces were sent to Afghanistan to carry out an operation to free the Chinese workers taken hostage. And, despite the fact that there is no official evidence of this operation, in one of the periodicals it was written about how the forces of the Chinese special forces managed to free the hostages without firing a shot and, moreover, to capture the terrorists. The actions of the Chinese special forces were highly praised by the special services of the United States of America.

Yes, like all blah blah blah, they say that the chickens are milked. And their technique reminds a mixture of circus performances, with elements of demonstration exercises of the airborne forces.

[curious]

I agree with you. The whole history of the Chinese army is associated with very limited and dosed information about it. I wanted to see them in a real combat situation, naturally not on my land

[leon-iv]

Yeah, again, tales about the Chinese special forces which hand pierces the tank.
Kotry without having real combat experience is the coolest of all)))

[curious]

The most interesting thing is that the Vietnamese have a lot more experience, at minimal cost. It’s not a shame to learn from anyone, including the Chinese

[leon-iv]

Our to them regularly dangle. This is also not particularly advertise.

[curious]

The most piquant will be when the Russian and American Specialists meet and will in one training learn the basics of the struggle in the Vietnamese jungle. States are slowly building up military cooperation with Vietnam, and it won’t hurt us either

[SIT]

Quote: curious

The most interesting thing is that the Vietnamese have a lot more experience, at minimal cost. It’s not a shame to learn from anyone,

This will be interesting, given that the Vietnamese during the war with the United States trained on the basis of sabotage training near the village of Pervomaisky in the Crimea, and combat swimmers in Kazachka in Sevastopol.

[Hans grohman]

Quote: SIT

... were trained on the basis of sabotage training near the village of Pervomaisky in the Crimea ...

Very interesting, but where did the information come from? He just served there himself (of course, much later), but there were no rumors of such things.

[SIT]

Quote: Hans Grohman

where does the information come from?

We had a Cuban guy. He studied there. In addition to the Vietnamese, there were also Arabs. This is somewhere in the early 70s.

[77bor1973]

In Southeast Asia, I think the Vietnamese will be cooler, stronger in spirit!

[aksakal]

Quote: curious

The most interesting thing is that the Vietnamese have a lot more experience, at minimal cost. It’s not a shame to learn from anyone, including the Chinese

- they taught the Chinese to the mind. They gave the hefty Chinese army a lyuli for a week and all business. Soviet also gave lyuli in Daman. I think this all speaks of China very revealingly. Colossus on feet of clay. Every single war with foreign enemies was lost by China and will be lost in the future - a centuries-old tradition, nothing can be done. The strength of China is in quiet expansion. With such tactics, even the great Genghis Khan could not do anything. Only out of anger to pester the Chinese, what he regularly did. But this did not stop the expansion.

[Hans grohman]

Quote: aksakal

(about Vietnamese) They gave a hefty Chinese army a lyule for a week and all business.

And you don’t confuse anything, wasn’t it the other way around? And was it not under pressure from the USSR that the PRC was forced to stop the database, and then withdraw the troops?

[datur]

curiousBy the way, our borrowed their experience !!!!

[Denzel13]

Well, yes, they hung it on the Chinese in 1979.

[SSR]

Quote: leon-iv

Yeah, again, tales about the Chinese special forces which hand pierces the tank.
Kotry without having real combat experience is the coolest of all)))

you are so straightforward witty optimist)))
Have you watched the results of the last three sports no five Olympics?
if not, then you are either a balabol or just not easy-going ... for their preparation .. shows hu from hu ... (I apologize for my ... chaotic and rude).

[kotdavin4i]

Hmm ... there is something to think about, 4 armies trained according to the special forces system - and armed with the latest technology - here really China can be restrained only with nuclear weapons!

[curious]

And the most interesting thing is that no one really threatens China. He has no aggressive neighbors, and even with Taiwan it is necessary to negotiate, because nobody needs him in ruins.

[Krasnodar]

Or jokes about the Russian construction battalion! Schaub were afraid! No wonder they learn to beat bricks with their head! ..

[neri73-r]

What kind of fighter of the invisible front has corns everywhere (on the forehead, palms, elbows, knees, etc.), this is a complete disguise, any more or less knowledgeable person will tell you where, when and who taught this person !! ! These soldiers are only suitable for open power operations, something like the airborne forces with us.

[curious]

After all, they are not James Bond, to show off in front of the girls, and no one will notice their corns in the forests and mountains of the enemy. Although physical fitness is good, it’s not at all important

[Sergl]

For comparison, you can take at least the same "Aquarium" Rezun. In terms of the training of special forces, the GRU is very intelligible and clear. I don’t think the training has gotten any worse since then.
Although, if you introduce outsourcing ...;)

[wolverine7778]

Yes, the Chinese people look stern, but their only drawback is that they have practically no experience in real special operations, which doesn’t count in Afghanistan

[Manager]

Quote: wolverine7778

Yes, the Chinese people look stern, but their only drawback is that they have practically no experience in real special operations, which doesn’t count in Afghanistan

You might think that our military will not crawl out of hostilities. (Dagest and Chechnya do not count)

[curious]

As far as I heard, in the mountains of Dagestan they also receive a very valuable and difficult experience in the struggle. You just need to learn lessons and appreciate experienced staff

[Pimply]

Why not count?

[Denzel13]

Manager, Dagestan and Chechnya may not count for you, as probably Baku 1990 and the Transnistrian conflict and Abkhazia 1992-93, but some spent a significant part of their lives there, and many did not return at all. And there, following your thought, the fighters drank tea or something stronger sitting at the checkpoints. Only to nobody who was there, do not tell about this in person, they may not understand.

[Pimply]

They have quite. Uyghur Autonomous Region - there is a lot of fun.

[curious]

Yes, indeed, after "business" trips to Pakistan and Afghanistan, the Uighurs are clearly of great interest to the Chinese special services and military

[AK-74-1]

Great article. Actually any army, and especially special reconnaissance units, is the most closed part of the army system. Even in our era of universal openness, this topic is little covered in publications. The Chinese inspire respect even if not by skill as a number for sure. I am absolutely sure that you can’t throw the Chinese with caps. They have the opportunity to select candidates at the school level. Hence the quality of the candidates and the competition. Look at the Olympics. China began to grow athletes from the beginning of the 90, and now they have a hedgehog of the generation of Olympians and a school for their training.

[SIT]

Not from scratch they started in the 80s. Chinese units were in Vietnam. Moreover, as part of the partisan formations of the Viet Cong. Just the specifics of SpN. Daytime crossing overgrown mountains was up to 70km. The truth is not in our kirzachs, but sneakers, but for that climate this is the best shoe. Amerskie jungle boots are moldy, and if you clean them from the smell, then all the local living creatures begin to wheeze and secrecy of movement is impossible.

[master joker]

Something the standards are much higher than 200 times on the crossbar, the same on the bars ... Complete nonsense .... and an important nuance - it is one thing to fight and the other to overcome through 5-storey stegs and run 10 km in a bag ..

[Manager]

Quote: masterjoker

Something the standards are much higher than 200 times on the crossbar, the same on the bars ... Complete nonsense .... and an important nuance - it is one thing to fight and the other to overcome through 5-storey stegs and run 10 km in a bag ..

The standards they have is what you need. Given the average weight of the Chinese soldiers, 50-60 kg and constant physical training since childhood. They have a norm in physical education classes at school - 50 pull-ups. (there is a friend in China and he was telling).
Look at the results of the Olympic Games. Chinese 1e. And they can not be overtaken and this is only the beginning. They have universal physical training in the country. We would like that! And then we have 30% of youth gopot or just smoke from school. It's time to take the example from the Chinese. Or return the traditions of the USSR with all that it implies. Pioneering, etc. There were wonderful times. Various circles, lots of free sections.

[77bor1973]

I agree "+" you just need to raise your own "bar" and revive the TRP in schools.

[hrych]

Sport now is not a competition of muscles, but a battle of pharmacists, especially the Norwegian biathlon team pins, whose members, led by Bjerndalin, are completely disabled - asthmatics. But among the leaders in military disciplines (unlike Chinese kungfush films) you will not find Chinese in the afternoon with fire.

[sasha.28blaga]

I live (in the literal sense of the word opposite the Chinese), at 06:00 o'clock in the morning, the Chinese go out and do morning exercises, Wu-Shu in their language. I swear. Tourists Russians (drunk) returning from a night party take part in the same, I have not seen sober. They have physical education as "nihau", hello to ours.

[hrych]

Fun starts - 10 km. jumping in bags, the author even imagined that this is generally, well, crazy stuff.

[50508.8]

Lifting 35 kg. grenades 60 times and throwing it 50 meters 100 times ... It's cool, especially throwing.

[IRBIS]

About combat experience. We have plenty of it. So what? Who uses this experience? Those who, contrary to all experiments, drove armored vehicles to Grozny in 95? Or those who introduced troops without intelligence into Georgia in 2008? Even if all of the above is halved, then these fighters deserve serious attitude and respect. And compare, to all of Russia - the 45th Airborne Regiment, and here in each unit, formation and association, its own units and special forces units (everything like that has been safely wiped out). Plus intensely prepared by the ARMY. You must admit that we have a very serious neighbor who needs special attention.

[leon-iv]

Those who, contrary to all experiments, drove armored vehicles to Grozny in the 95th?
Betrayal
Then they fought against the mind and quickly pressed the Czechs. And if not for the traitor swan, then everything would be fine.
Or those who introduced troops without intelligence into Georgia in 2008?
This is a blatant cynical FALSE because I personally know people from 215grr 98 GVDD who were there much earlier than the start of battles.
And compare, the whole of Russia - the 45th Airborne Regiment
You lie again, what direction of work interests you
For example, there are currently
7 brigades SPN data from Wikipedia for I’m not particularly interested in army special forces
uniting their units and special forces
Surely you confuse intelligence with
You must admit that we have a very serious neighbor who needs special attention.
Observation and nothing more.

[IRBIS]

1. Knowing people and participating in person are two different things. Look at your list of leisure and the amount of lost equipment.
2. Betrayal and lack of professionalism - too. And the place when it was "according to the mind" do not tell me?
3. Units and units of Special Forces of the army and district submission disappeared even earlier than we switched to the brigade system.
4. The article clearly indicates which units and parts of Special Forces possess military units in China.
5. This is your "observation", China is a very serious adversary. God forbid us to be convinced of this by our own experience!

[leon-iv]

1. Knowing people and participating in person are two different things. Look at your list of leisure and the amount of lost equipment.
I saw and that I can give a list of amer losses in such operations, you will also be surprised (learn their method of calculating broken equipment).
And who was there or was not me, your opinion is not of interest to maybe I know those who flew away and who drove them away. Because of this, our competitions broke down.
2. Betrayal and lack of professionalism - too. And the place when it was "according to the mind" do not tell me?
The army was allowed to fight as it can. With the use of all forces and means. I recommend reading "Notes of a trench general"
Units and units of Special Forces of the army and district submission disappeared even earlier than we switched to the brigade system.
They logically became subordinate to the USC and headquarters
4. The article clearly indicates which units and parts of Special Forces possess military units in China.
No, I do not trust such sources I will never trust.
China is a very serious adversary.
Did I deny it?

[IRBIS]

1. Let's look at our losses, but we have more experience than American. And the reason for the defeat of the headquarters column of the 58 Army near Tskhinval (when the commander Khrulev was wounded) is the lack of basic intelligence and underestimation of the enemy.
2. Armies allowed to fight? You didn’t mix anything up? And why should I read someone's notes? Have you ever seen a general in a trench? Personally, I have never watched a lieutenant colonel.

[leon-iv]

1. Let's look at our losses, but we have more experience than American. And the reason for the defeat of the headquarters column of the 58th army at Tskhinval
Personal mistake of General Khrulev. Tk did not provide security.
. Armies allowed to fight?
Does this surprise you? Think about it
And why should I read someone's notes?
Well, yes General Troshev is such a snotty summer.

[IRBIS]

1. It is not a matter of protection, it just had a place to be. But the presence of artillery and its position were not opened. After the shelling began, our artillery could not suppress the Georgian one more day due to the elementary lack of intelligence as such.
2. Yes, I am surprised by your statement that someone was allowed something there ... The strange thing is that it somehow bypassed me personally and our part, and the "neighbors". Applies to both the first and second campaigns.
3. Well, from the second point and the fact that about the dead "either good or nothing" you yourself can draw conclusions about the snotty of individuals who "allowed" to fight those who just fought.

[Denzel13]

leon-iv is right.
I served in the 98th Internal Affairs Directorate and amused amply enough the information provided by the media about the presence and actions of our troops in Georgia and Abkhazia in 2008.
And in general 45 - a regiment? The composition of the Airborne Forces can be quite seen on the website of the Ministry of Defense or on landing. RU.
Again, the special forces and the Airborne Forces have basically different tasks, they can to some extent intertwine with the intelligence, but nothing more.

[Gur]

UUUUU how menacing, the special thing is that they "even have mice" to eat, it's good that they still have these mice. )))) But training at -40, this already raises the question, where are they going ??? If you come to us, then at the border you need to hang out a poster with the inscription "WE HAVE NO MICE"))) The fact that the Chinese are stranded is well known, and it is certainly stupid not to evaluate them. It's just that the article was written, well, it’s not serious, somehow childish, like tales around the fire. UUUU they eat snakes and mice, uuuuu they are in Afghanistan, one grandmother told me, uuu they break bottles with their heads))))))))))))

[schonia06rus]

Quote: GUR

UUUUU how menacing

judging by the flag you are from Kazakhstan. Tell me, what do you think there about the frontier post you killed?
after all, no one believes that one conscript shot her. just on the Chinese special forces and all fell

[Hamul]

In addition, the training program includes such exercises as climbing a brick wall five-storey high without using aids for half a minute, swimming 5 kilometers with full equipment for 1 an hour 20 minutes, jumping in a bag 10 kilometers from tied with legs and equipment, the weight of which is 4,5 kilogram, overcoming 3,5 kilometers in full equipment of the broken wet mountain road. In addition, special forces are required to perform such exercises as push-ups from a prone position (at least 100 times), lifting a crossbar (200 times), push-ups on uneven bars (200 times), lifting 35-kilogram grenades (60 times), throwing grenades on 50 meters (100 times).


Ninja does not remind? I don’t believe
100 times to push out is not a problem, but 200 on the crossbar? 200 on the uneven bars, ingots lifting 35 kg 200 times (why there is no designation - with one hand or 2 ??) - not at all fit in with push-ups.
Well, climbing a cryptic wall without claw canopies - 5 meters - is fantastic.

[Flooding]

Hamul,

I also very much doubt the reliability of the data.
- 5 km open water world record something about 57 minutes. With what such full equipment? With body armor or something ???
- A clear imbalance between push-ups and pull-ups (which for some reason was called lifting). The usual ratio is 2-3 to 1, that is, for 100 pull-ups - 200-300 push-ups.
- What is the lifting of a 35 kg grenade? And for what, interestingly, they raise her? For the ring? Apparently, the author had in mind a weight.

[Gur]

Once I watched a thin film, Korean "SHIRI", of course, it's stupid to take everything for the truth, well, as they say, every joke has its share of a joke. So this is where the training of the North Korean sabotage detachment is shown. If there is any truth in this, then it's creepy. The first viewing gave me a quiet shock)))

[77bor1973]

But during the Korean War, China lost the order of 2000000 people!

[Aleksys2]

Quote: 77bor1973

But during the Korean War, China lost the order of 2000000 people!

According to official statistics from China, the Chinese army lost 390 thousand people in the Korean War. Of these: 110,4 thousand killed in battles; 21,6 thousand died of wounds; 13 thousand died of disease; 25,6 thousand captured or missing; 260 thousand injured in battles. According to some sources, both Western and Eastern, from 500 thousand to 1 million Chinese soldiers were killed in battles, died of illness, starvation and accidents. Some say that China lost almost a million people in this war. One of Mao Zedong’s sons, Mao Anyin, also died in the fighting on the Korean peninsula.

[Protey]

Just watched Shiri. Five thugs - North Koreans armed with the ideas of "Juche", killed almost the entire South Korean special forces armed with machine guns!

[Hamul]

Quote: IRBIS

Even if all of the above is halved, then these fighters deserve serious attitude and respect. And compare, the whole of Russia has the 45th Airborne Regiment, and here in every unit, unit and association, there are separate units and special forces units (everything like that has been safely destroyed).

You are mistaken - you do not know the real picture.

[Drappier]

Impressive, but in my opinion in the special forces of each country, solid Rambos serve

[Hamul]

Quote: Drapper

solid Rambo serve

Dear, real pros do not need so much. Remember the first film about Rimbaud - it was shot based on real events - only Rambo was actually killed. Rimbaud was pumped up - but to the right level.
I have a friend of prof.voyo.razvedos - he always says - the main thing is to have brains, orientation, skills, memory, etc.
Why so much muscle in war? Punching tanks with your hand? after all, and the bullet is much more deadly than the Chinese approach in a jump.
Regarding survival and food - guys - we can also eat frogs, and snakes, and worms, and grass - so what?

[Baron Wrangell]

I agree, as in that old joke, with a bare heel on a checker! Well, and so that such physical preparation is more window dressing! main head and brains.

[Drappier]

Rimbaud is a household word and said with irony Your cap

[SIT]

Quote: Hamul

and the bullet is much more deadly than the Chinese fly

If an SPN group is found, then it will not be allowed to come off and all of them will have hours to live. A shot is the same as calling the counterintelligence and introducing yourself. If contact is inevitable, then you need to work without shots, and preferably without blood (why should dogs make life easier). A blow with the same wooden edge of the palm along a slightly ascending trajectory in front of the throat solves the problem. Only this corpse still had to either arrive at the location or get in touch at the appointed time. Depending on this time, the group has several hours of handicap. If this time is enough to reach the point of evacuation, then it’s lucky. If you start firing even from silent weapons, there is no guarantee that he will not have time to press the trigger, having received a bullet. Then there will be no handicaps and it is unlikely to be lucky.

[8 company]

It seems that the Chinese do not focus on intelligence if calloused foreheads are so important to them. Our KGB approached the selection of candidates for specialists much more sensibly, for example, I know a person who graduated from Baumanka, then underwent training at Zenit and fought in Afghanistan. Although it is possible that the Chinese themselves are distributing all sorts of stories in their special forces.

[Alx1miK]

Why do they need special forces and weapons. They can lay any with one cut of their eyes :)

[Castor oil]

Quote: Alx1miK

Why do they need special forces and weapons. They can lay any with one cut of their eyes :)

[schonia06rus]

Quote: Alx1miK

Why do they need special forces and weapons. They can lay any with one cut of their eyes :)

and Israeli soldiers with their noses?

[Hamul]

Quote: SIT

If an SPN group is found, then it will not be allowed to come off and all of them will have hours to live. A shot is the same as calling the counterintelligence and introducing yourself. If contact is inevitable, then you need to work without shots, and preferably without blood (why should dogs make life easier). A blow with the same wooden edge of the palm along a slightly ascending trajectory in front of the throat solves the problem. Only this corpse still had to either arrive at the location or get in touch at the appointed time. Depending on this time, the group has several hours of handicap. If this time is enough to reach the point of evacuation, then it’s lucky. If you start firing even from silent weapons, there is no guarantee that he will not have time to press the trigger, having received a bullet. Then there will be no handicaps and it is unlikely to be lucky.

To be honest, I did not quite understand what the appeal was. If a group is found, then the question is primarily to the group. I think there are a lot of possible, long-known solutions for these situevins.
In addition, I also meant that it is not particularly customary to show. With my own eyes I saw how they couldn’t get into the focus from a machine gun on a motionless lying man (something like a blind eye). Believe it or not, even a specially trained dog can be scared (something like suggestion - I can do it a little). And there is also such a thing as a knife fight, a combat sapper fight, combat sambo (where the main thing is to kill or immobilize very quickly) and a bunch of other things. And there is also a very interesting type of martial arts - which has long been adopted by our special forces - this is a contactless battle.

[SIT]

Quote: Hamul

To be honest, I did not quite understand what the appeal was

You wrote that a bullet is more deadly than a jumping Chinese. I replied that shooting for a special forces group is the last thing that can come in handy. As for the contactless methods of hand-to-hand combat, then with this to Kochergin - he has long been inviting to try it on him. To separate the concepts of knife fighting, MSL fighting and combat sambo is from sport. Hand-to-hand combat is conducted on one "engine", and there is something in the hands or not, these are already details. The principle of constructing movements remains the same. By the way, if you start digging Sambo, including its combat section, you will quickly get to its Japanese roots, and after digging them you will find yourself in China. A very small number of students get into monks in Shaolin - not all are suitable for this. Those who are not suitable for monks replenish the ranks of the PLA's special units or go to sports, cinema, etc.

[Odessa]

SIT,

I told you that to shoot for a group of special forces is the last thing that can come in handy.

Is this from new techniques? You can’t shoot, only break the ribs!
A vivid illustration of the thesis "To engage in hand-to-hand combat, a spetsnaz fighter must dry out on the battlefield: a machine gun, a pistol, a knife, a waist belt, a shovel, a bulletproof vest, a helmet, find a flat area on which there is no stone or a stick, find such gouging like him, and only after that engage him in hand-to-hand combat ":

[SIT]

Quote: Odessa

Is this from new techniques? You can’t shoot, only break the ribs!

I kind of wrote there why it’s better not to shoot. After your exact bursts from the machine you mentioned, in a couple of hours the whole area will simply be teeming with a frightened word, a saboteur with mines, which, despite the order to take them alive, will shoot at everything that moves. Here you can please shoot from the heart the last half hour of your life. Only this will not contribute in any way to the fulfillment of the task, much less to the return to the base. SPNs came quietly, completed the task and quietly left, so that everyone would think that the explosion of a warehouse or a missile position was just an accident. To drag on such a thing in the helmet and body armor you mentioned is definitely a technique unknown to me.

[Eric]

That is, when the group was discovered, it does not matter whether the task is completed or not, it is on departure:
- does not put grenades on a stretch
- does not put mines MON, Claymore, etc.
- Does not move at the highest possible speed in order to tear himself away from the enemy?

[bachast]

to Kochergin - he has long been inviting to try it on him

Well, he is a well-known person, especially in that they invited him to sparring .. they are still waiting))

[cobra66]

It becomes scary even how many of these special forces train every day

[77bor1973]

And how many write off for disability?

[Sergik527]

Cool!

[Hamul]

Quote: SIT

. By the way, if you start digging sambo, including its combat section, you quickly get to its Japanese roots, and after digging them you will find yourself in China.

Yes, you can certainly turn to the original sources, but if you poke around like that you can go to folly (at least take the language, but you can also remember the ruby, by the way, somewhere in the historical literature it slipped that the Japanese emperor had protection from the Rus in the 13-15 centuries).
If you dig a little further than the 20th century, it turns out that China does not have truly significant military victories, only defeats. And Shaolin is a fairy tale, beautiful, but a fairy tale. And the monks there, although they reached the heights in possessing their body and spirit, did not bring any mass application to the country (the same can be said of modern Tibetan monks).
You yourself perfectly understand that any kind of martial arts is murderous - if it is sharpened in combat quality. And the master always remains the master (you can still recall Ko Fu Ji - he has a lot of tales about the masters)
And you also, apparently, know that there is a huge difference between sports and real military equipment (of different directions), and the master does not need to have many muscles at all.

[101]

A finger is enough for a master or just a specialist, but endurance exercises can cause nothing but respect

[iSpoiler]

They can be heard per kilometer .... how the dogs scream ..)))

[kotdavin4i]

Angry macaques resemble ...

[Ramadan]

Maybe this is considered cool, but I laughed heartily))))
And at the sight of our commandos I do not want to laugh at all)

[Uncle]

Why focus only on physical training? But what about drones, other weapons of the 21st century? How does the audience react to the information, if the article is about a drone, then they write, cool, 2 zadokhlik will destroy a regiment or column of tanks. As they write about the special forces, it’s also cool, they will put everyone in fists. Where is the truth? Where is the middle ground between a drone and a soldier of the Chinese army? Where were the Japanese samurai with their spirit, when at 45 ours they defeated the Kwantung Army or the Americans dropped their bomb? In the courtyard of the 21st century and smashing bricks with your head is like smashing them with a computer.

[SIT]

Quote: Uncle

Why focus only on physical training? But what about drones, other weapons of the 21st century?

So physical training is only a means, not an end goal. The ultimate goal may be to break up the inertial guidance system of high-precision munitions. To do this, a reference station is placed at the surrounding high-altitudes, their exact coordinates are obtained using 2 frequency GPS geodetic receivers, and the bearings and distance to the object are determined by laser range finders. This info must be transmitted to the communication satellite so that the transmission is not detected. Installation and coordination itself must be carried out crawling on the belly at dusk, when it is no longer visible in ordinary optics, and infrared devices glare from the cooling earth's surface. At the same time, masking itself not only from the sentries and TCO of the object’s security system, but also from cameras in the visible and infrared range mounted on the fucking drone you mentioned. Here, in order to drag all this to the object and then crawl on the belly in the heat for hours in the midst of all vile tropical animals, we need not only enhanced physical, but also psychological preparation, which makes us endure, endure, and endure when an ordinary person will lose their nerves. And break into the evacuation point, if you can’t do without contact with the enemy, it is better without shooting, skillfully masking corpses that are best done without blood.

[DimYang]

It is impossible not to underestimate the enemy, it can end badly. Then there will be no one to learn from their mistakes.

[Uncle]

Quote: SIT

endure, endure and endure when an ordinary person has already lost their nerves

Served as a switchboard operator at the battalion headquarters, oh strong nerves were required! After the divorce, everyone rushes to the offices and picks up the pipes, they have such a sport, who is faster. And I answer everyone at the same time, "I'm listening to you." The technique allowed. Although I listened to the most scandalous. In short, not only the infantry must be trained, and pilots and missilemen ... And everyone must be trained in the best possible way.

[Swag]

You can recall the Japanese, where discipline and physical training were, but no, didn’t help. China specially throw in a similar Old, it’s like our inflatable tanks. What kind of iron hand, what runs with bricks, Shao Lin some 21 centuries in the yard, and they have solid Jackie Chans. The training of special units is the same military secret, so all this is pi ar, like their planes and missiles and tanks ....

[Suvorov000]

The article is no different from the articles about Chinese special forces from each other, at least something new was written. Their preparation doesn’t do anything beyond judging by what is written above, no better than in the Legion where even more are forced to run, but what is written here is first show in action

[Evil Tatar]

I read here in bikes that the Japanese general in the 45th stated that his samurai kamikaze (damn, Georgian something) resorted to our tanks with howitzer shells and a blow to the fuse’s armor, blew up the tanks with them ...
Smiled ...
And right now I realized that there weren’t any shells - they bit the armies of the thirty-four and the ISs ... gee-gee-gee ... ooh-ooh-ooh ... Yes, they put everything on board ... It turns out to be frontal our armor was nevertheless impenetrable even by the hand of a martial artist ...

[vylvyn]

And I like Ip Man and Jet Li. Jackie Chan is not very, instead of fighting, first starts to run a lot. And the Vietnamese special forces use their national style - VietVoDao - looks very impressive. Wushu and Kung Fu are also cool. Of course, one can not say about Ju-jutsu (combat) and Ninjutsu, which, unfortunately, is almost completely lost.

[Bob's]

Yeah again tales about sweatshirts!

As they say strong but light

[PiP]

Interesting article. But something similar to this topic (sorry if it was) http://www.popmech.ru/article/6543-kitay/