Upgraded BRDM-2L1 go to the Ukrainian army


New equipment in the NBTZ workshop


Perhaps the main way to update the fleet of equipment of the Ukrainian army is now to repair and modernize old armored vehicles produced back in Soviet times. The other day, industry once again handed over to the army a batch of converted reconnaissance and patrol vehicles BRDM-2L1. This time, allegedly, the transfer of technology has become possible thanks to a number of successes and achievements.

The latest news


On April 16, the state concern "Ukroboronprom" reported that the SE "Nikolaev Armored Plant", which is part of it, completed work on the next batch of BRDM-2L1 and transferred it to the customer. Eight vehicles go to the army as part of a new defense order.

It is noteworthy that a new batch of equipment was made even before receiving an official order from the Ministry of Defense, but this approach paid off. It was possible to transfer the finished machines to the customer almost immediately after signing the contract.

It is reported that in the recent past, the NBTZ has faced serious problems. By the beginning of 2019, the company had accumulated large arrears of overdue contracts. At the beginning of last year, the management changed at the plant, and new managers had to solve these problems. Last year, the debt to the Ministry of Defense was repaid, and the volume of work increased.


Cars depart for duty station

It is also noted that the assembly of a new batch of BRDM-2L1 had to be completed in an epidemic and quarantine. In this regard, part of the staff was sent home, while the rest continue to work. Despite this, the plant was able to fulfill the order.

Principles of modernization


It must be recalled that the Nikolaev Armored Plant has extensive experience in the restructuring and modernization of reconnaissance and patrol vehicles. The first project of this kind appeared back in the late nineties. In the future, once every several years, they presented the next version of the BRDM-2 update with these or those features.

All such projects were based on the same ideas. The existing hull was minimally redone, the outdated engine gave way to a modern one, the armament remained the same, and all on-board electronics were replaced. The current project BRDM-2L1 is already the fourth development of this kind from the NBTZ - not counting similar projects of other enterprises.

When upgrading the BRDM-2 to the “L1” level, a number of units are rebuilt with the restoration of technical readiness. Others are subject to change. The main innovations affect the design, interior and ergonomics of the armored hull. At the same time, the level of protection and combat capabilities as a whole remains the same.


Additional wheels are removed from the central part of the body and niches are removed under them, which allows you to free up space inside the machine. Doorways cut through the sides for doors. To simplify production, rectangular top hatches from BTR-60P are used as doors - directly with a standard frame. In the upper sheets of the hull set embrasures for firing from a personal weapons.

The BRDM-2L1 reports mention a certain increase in the level of protection. At the same time, the standard body armor does not undergo any noticeable changes, with the exception of the insert of new units. Thus, the machine should still provide protection against machine guns and rifle bullets without an armor-piercing core.

According to reports, the BRDM-2L1 retains the previous power plant based on a gasoline engine and a standard mechanical transmission. The latter is simplified due to the lack of additional wheels. The power unit and chassis undergo a bulkhead, but are not rebuilt. The water cannon and the possibility of crossing water barriers to swim.


The project does not affect the standard tower type BPU-1 with installation for machine guns KPVT and PKT. It should be noted that the cars of the new batch that recently left the NBTZ did not have weapons. They should have received their machine guns later, already in the combat unit.

The airborne complex of equipment was seriously modified. Modern navigation and communication devices of Ukrainian and foreign production were used. A thermal imager was introduced to work in the dark (whose places are equipped, not specified).

The release of volumes inside the hull made it possible to organize additional seats for the landing. Inside BRDM-2L1 managed to accommodate 7 people - against 4 in the basic modification. Access inside is provided by old and new hatches. Declared a general improvement in ergonomics.

Production volumes


According to various sources and estimates, the armament of Ukraine has at least 400 BRDM-2 vehicles of several modifications. Since the late nineties, several attempts have been made to repair and modernize such equipment in order to maintain or improve the basic characteristics. Until now, all such projects, including created with the participation of the NBTZ, were not particularly successful.


Corps BRDM-2, going to the alteration, 2019

So, the first project of modernization of the BRDM-2LD ended with the restructuring of only 10 armored vehicles. The production of such equipment had to be stopped due to the bankruptcy of the plant, which supplied new engines. Subsequent upgrades, such as BRDM-2M, BRDM-2DI, etc. also did not allow to launch a full-scale renewal of the army park.

The current project BRDM-2L1 so far looks the most successful and successful. In 2017, factory tests of this version of the armored car were carried out, after which the military started. Then an order for serial modernization was received. The first samples of “L1” were handed over to the customer last year. A few days ago another party was transferred.

Thus, to date, the Ukrainian army has received more than a dozen modernized BRDM-2L1. In terms of quantity, such equipment has already surpassed machines of previous projects. However, now and in the foreseeable future, vehicles with the letters “L1” in terms of numbers will not be able to compare with the base BRDM-2.

Ambiguous Results


The recent supply of modernized equipment gives rise to optimism - but only within the framework of the current BRDM-2L1 project. The project was successfully brought to a series and deliveries of finished equipment to the troops, and in "record" quantities. However, such successes are directly related to a number of serious problems that Ukrainian industry is facing.


New door on the old building, 2019

The "new" BRDM-2L1 is another version of the processing of reconnaissance and patrol vehicles, created back in the early sixties. The Ukrainian army has a fairly large fleet of old BRDM-2 and does not have the opportunity to carry out their full replacement with the help of completely new equipment. Because of this, one has to look for solutions in the form of modernization projects.

At the same time, the financial capabilities of the customer are not too large, and orders do not differ in large volumes. As a result, the transfer of only eight upgraded machines is becoming an important event worthy of special mention. All recent modernization projects have consistently encountered similar problems.

Thus, despite all the optimism of customers and contractors, the BRDM-2L1 project is faced with all the observed negative trends and therefore is unlikely to be able to change the current situation in industry and the army. The army needs new cars, but even with the current volume of orders and the pace of production, the modernization of the entire fleet of old BRDM-2 will stretch for many years. However, this does not prevent industry and the army right now joyfully reporting the delivery of as many as eight armored vehicles.
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  1. Andrey the Magnificent April 21 2020 06: 06 New
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    The next "help" !!! fellow
    1. major147 April 21 2020 10: 53 New
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      Quote: Andrew the Magnificent
      The next "help" !!! fellow

      A shot from an RPG is requested in a flat sideboard!
      1. PSih2097 April 21 2020 13: 42 New
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        Quote: major147
        A shot from an RPG is requested in a flat sideboard!

        there is enough grain there ...
  2. Vadim Golubkov April 21 2020 06: 36 New
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    They are already obsolete, I served them before the collapse of the USSR, only with ATGM "Competition". 2 wheels on the sides increased patency in the event of a jam in the mud, swamps, and the armor is weak. Well, for lack of if.
    1. Zementbomber April 21 2020 09: 46 New
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      Well - kabe and in your reconnaissance plants near motorized rifles and rdr - exactly the same trash about 85% of the park.
      1. Vadim Golubkov April 22 2020 06: 36 New
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        We have BRDM-2 written off for a long time or sold are given to Serbia, Kyrgyzstan and the countries of Southeast Asia.
        1. Diverter April 28 2020 23: 39 New
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          which is incredible stupidity.
  3. 75 Sergey April 21 2020 06: 38 New
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    On the one hand, one could be happy for the neighbor, and the other, because all this technology will go to kill civilians in Lugansk and Donbas
  4. ydjin April 21 2020 06: 40 New
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    Tse peremoga! fellow
  5. Sahalinets April 21 2020 06: 45 New
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    Absolutely useless thing. Nothing of it is visible, armor makes its way to almost everyone, and the engine eats as if into itself. It would be better if they just bought Toyotov's pickups and put a machine gun in the back - it would have been more sense.
    Although for the DNI it’s even better.
    1. V.I.P. April 21 2020 08: 07 New
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      The armor is no worse than that of our Tigers ... I don’t understand why they write about the gas engine here, but they kind of put a diesel Deutz. It is smaller in size, due to this the machine and extra people can accommodate ....
      1. V.I.P. April 21 2020 08: 30 New
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        In addition to Ukraine, the BRDM-2 will modernize the Russian Federation, Belarus (Cayman version), Azerbaijan (ZKDM project armament: 23-mm gun GSH-23, 30-mm automatic grenade launcher, 7,62-mm machine gun, and also launcher launchers) .
        In the Ukrainian project BRDM-2LD, the SMD-21-08 engine was used.
        Here is the Ukrainian modernization of the BRDM -NIK. Iveco diesel engine, additional front armor, Another, more convenient door.
        1. V.I.P. April 21 2020 08: 39 New
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          Here is the Azerbaijani car

          Here is the Belarusian
          1. V.I.P. April 21 2020 08: 50 New
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            Here is the Russian BRDM-2 MS. Diesel 150 HP Additional armor provides circular protection against ammunition 12,7 mm, and frontal from 14,5 mm (from 300 m). There is a fire control system, 3 channel commander’s sight, there is another sight, 6 circular cameras ..... These were presented to the Serbs
            1. Lopatov April 21 2020 09: 08 New
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              Quote: V.I.P.
              BRDM-2 MS

              The letter “C” stands for “Serbia”.
              This is a modernization for them, and not for the RF Armed Forces.
              1. V.I.P. April 21 2020 09: 16 New
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                Naturally for strangers. For the Russian Federation there is a different kind of buggy, cornfields, patriots)))))) or worthless tiger)))
                1. Lopatov April 21 2020 09: 38 New
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                  Quote: V.I.P.
                  For the Russian Federation there is a different kind of buggy, cornfields, patriots)))))) or worthless tiger)))

                  BRDM-2 is not better.
                  I remember how the anti-tank regiment suffered with them.
                  He had 9P149 “Assaults,” and BRDMs remained as KShMoks from the time when 9P148 “Competitions” were in the battery
                  Patency, to put it mildly, is different.

                  The most appropriate option is to replace the BRDM-2 with the BRDM-3
                  1. V.I.P. April 21 2020 09: 44 New
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                    In all countries, reconnaissance vehicles are small. And BTR 80 is huge and scary growling. Moreover, already in all normal countries retractable telescopic masts for reconnaissance equipment. The Russian Federation can’t do this ... ... .. But in the century, reconnaissance drones of different sizes, ranges and flight durations are airborne, in my opinion, are no longer relevant as in the time from 1945 to 2000
                    1. Zementbomber April 21 2020 09: 51 New
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                      Well - reconnaissance vehicles are actually very different. There are also 20 tons. And there are also much less than the same BRDM-2.
                      1. V.I.P. April 21 2020 10: 00 New
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                        Yes, yes .... I just don’t understand the people who criticize the same Ukrainians. Would you see what we have in the Russian Federation ... Worthless "tiger" for a lot of money? If BRDM-2 remained in the army of the Russian Federation, then it is not better than the Ukrainian .. The best of all BRDM as a reconnaissance vehicle is Kazakhstan. Then the "cayman" (who needed a review and swimming) is definitely better than a tiger, etc. ...... Well, we like to scream "ducking" with or without reason .....
                      2. Zementbomber April 21 2020 10: 11 New
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                        Well - the tendency to "ur-r-ry-i-ya" - this is, apparently, all-Slavic. It’s to me that Ukrainians, that Russians, remind us, Poles, in August 1939. Then we have almost everything too "hurra!" bawled. The result of the September Campaign is well known.
                        And if without lyrics ... According to Agencja Wywiadu, at the end of the year before last, 73-76% of the combat armored vehicles fleet of combat units of the RF Armed Forces were produced before 1993. Specifically, in reconnaissance units - about 85% of armored vehicles are the same BRDM-2.
                      3. Lopatov April 21 2020 11: 15 New
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                        Quote: Zementbomber
                        According to Agencja Wywiadu, at the end of the year before last - 73-76% of the combat armored vehicles fleet of combat units of the RF Armed Forces - production before 1993

                        In the American "heavy" brigades, 100% of the military equipment fleet "manufactured before 1993"
                        But I would not call them an easy opponent.
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                      5. Okolotochny April 21 2020 12: 52 New
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                        Cool stamp. good
                  2. Lopatov April 21 2020 11: 17 New
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                    Quote: V.I.P.
                    I just don’t understand the people who criticize the same Ukrainians.

                    Is it better to remain silent, observing obvious stupidity?

                    Quote: V.I.P.
                    The best of all BRDM as a reconnaissance vehicle is Kazakhstan.

                    Once again, do not confuse BRDM and BRM
                    These are machines with different tasks.
                2. Lara Croft April 22 2020 00: 11 New
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                  Quote: Zementbomber
                  Well - reconnaissance vehicles are actually very different. There are also 20 tons.

                  ER-90 e.g.
              2. Lopatov April 21 2020 10: 05 New
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                Quote: V.I.P.
                In all countries, reconnaissance vehicles are small.

                Well yes....
                For example, the British little Ajax weighing 34 tons. Or the American M1130. Or German "Dingo ATF"
                Simply small compared to the BRDM-3

                Quote: V.I.P.
                Moreover, already in all normal countries retractable telescopic masts for reconnaissance equipment.

                Do not confuse BRDM and BRM. These machines have different purposes.

                Quote: V.I.P.
                Well, the century of airborne reconnaissance drones of different sizes, ranges and duration of flight reconnaissance vehicles in my opinion are no longer relevant as in the time from 1945 to 2000

                Because stupid British went bankrupt on a program to replace light tanks with a more modern model?
                Well, or the French with their 25-ton “Jaguar” .... Apparently, they also do not know about the new fashion trends this season
                1. Lara Croft April 22 2020 00: 59 New
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                  Lopatov (Lopatov) For example, the British little "Ajax"

                  Why are you so, you know about the project of re-equipping British armored vehicles, a family of cars was created, on the same base, including and BRM ....
                  The existing order includes the construction of 256 PRMS combat vehicles: 59 Ares armored personnel carriers, 112 Athena control vehicles, and 34 Ares reconnaissance vehicles and 51 Argus Engineering Intelligence Vehicles. On the basis of the PRMS platform, it is also proposed to build 88 special auxiliary machines. Troops must receive 50 Apollo-type repair vehicles and 38 Atlas evacuation vehicles.

                  https://topwar.ru/88069-proekt-semeystva-bronetehniki-ajax-scout-sv-velikobritaniya.html
                  You don’t think that 34 BRMs (I think they will be ordered even more later) will go to all reconnaissance battalions, right, they will most likely be armed with the 3rd MD, the rest of the SV and MP units are armed with lighter types of BRMs ....
                  Ajax weighing 34 tons

                  Even more
                  All vehicles of the new family will have normal combat weight at the level of 35-38 t. Due to the use of additional equipment, this parameter can be increased to 40-42 t.

                  there ...
                  The British are very conservative in terms of weapons (they are probably overdone in this only by the U.S. ILC) and even at the end of the twentieth century they thought about replacing the entire line of armored vehicles ...
                  SA was a mobilization and existing armored vehicles for motorized rifles and military intelligence, it was suitable, because as the armed forces were 4,5 million people ...
                  Do not confuse BRDM and BRM. These machines have different purposes.

                  Simply small compared to the BRDM-3

                  You contradict yourself comparing our BRDM with the British BRM "Ajax" or even more so with the French
                  25 Ton Jaguar

                  It was probably fairer to compare our BRM "Lynx" created on the basis of the BMP with the American BRM on the basis of the BMP M3 "Bradley" or our BRDM with the British BRM FV721 "Fox"

                  Because stupid British went bankrupt on a program to replace light tanks with a more modern model?

                  I’ve been reading “ZVO” since I was 9 years old and I dare to assure you, the British just do nothing, the enemy needs to be studied, and not laugh at them ... all the more for no reason ...
                2. Lopatov April 22 2020 09: 27 New
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                  Quote: Lara Croft
                  Why are you so, you know about the project of re-equipping British armored vehicles, a family of cars was created, on the same base, including and BRM ....

                  Exactly the opposite
                  It was a program to replace the light tanks FV101 "Scorpion" and FV107 "Scimitar" in the intelligence units. Well, at the same time replace the machines based on them


                  Quote: Lara Croft
                  You do not think that 34 BRM

                  198 BRMs, 23 vehicles for advanced artillery, 24 reconnaissance radar vehicles, 34 BRDM, 59 armored personnel carriers for transporting reconnaissance reconnaissance units, 112 KShM for reconnaissance units and 51 engineering reconnaissance vehicles


                  Quote: Lara Croft
                  You contradict yourself comparing our BRDM with the British BRM "Ajax" or even more so with the French

                  There is no contradiction. These are all ground-based reconnaissance vehicles, not UAVs.

                  In addition, do not confuse their Ajax and our BRM-1K and BRM-3K, the ideology of British cars is much closer to the Soviet BRDM. For they do not have separate specialized intelligence equipment



                  Quote: Lara Croft
                  The British are very conservative in terms of weapons (they are probably overdone in this only by the U.S. ILC) and even at the end of the twentieth century they thought about replacing the entire line of armored vehicles ...

                  And they still think.
                  Do not confuse the replacement of light tanks and vehicles on their basis and the replacement of BMP "Vorior" and vehicles based on them.
                  “Thieves” remain in service, they do not change them to “Ajax”

                  Quote: Lara Croft
                  the enemy must be studied, and not laugh at them ... all the more for no reason ...

                  Actually, I laugh at the thoughtful statements of the kind
                  Quote: V.I.P.
                  Well, the century of airborne reconnaissance drones of different sizes, ranges and duration of flight reconnaissance vehicles in my opinion are no longer relevant as in the time from 1945 to 2000
                3. Lara Croft April 22 2020 10: 35 New
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                  Lopatov (Lopatov) It was a program to replace the light tanks FV101 "Scorpion" and FV107 "Scimitar" in the intelligence units. Well, at the same time replace the machines based on them

                  Not only did the tracked armored personnel carriers based on them, which once in the 80s famously and quickly replaced the huge fleet of tracked armored personnel carriers "Trojen" (outwardly similar to the M113 armored personnel carrier) consisting of all three BTCs of the 1st AK, also fell under the replacement. ..
                  I don’t know why they didn’t abandon the Scorpion light tanks immediately after the end of the ХV, the bulk of them were armed with the MPD and 15 MPBr., A small part of the regiment for the protection of the VVB located on the islands, perhaps the reason is that they did not have such a BRM as the French ....
                  All NATO countries abandoned light tanks, but some of them (USA for example) return to the topic of their development ....
                  “Thieves” remain in service, they do not change them to “Ajax”

                  The “Warrior” will remain in the British army for a long time, especially since it is a relatively new machine (it began to enter the British armored divisions in the mid-80s), in addition, by its performance characteristics it is comparable to our BMP-3 (they are even similar in appearance , it is possible that ours copied part of its architecture with the British BMP) is inferior in armament but superior in armor and engine power .....
                  do not confuse them with Ajax and our BRM-1K and BRM-3K, the ideology of British cars is much closer to Soviet BRDM. For they do not have separate specialized intelligence equipment

                  I correctly understood you that the difference between the BRM and the BRDM is that the latter
                  do not have separate specialized intelligence equipment
                  ?
                4. Lopatov April 22 2020 11: 26 New
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                  Quote: Lara Croft
                  Not only did the tracked APCs on their base fall under the replacement,

                  ... in intelligence units. Which the British have a lot


                  Quote: Lara Croft
                  I am correct that the difference between BRM and BRDM

                  ... roughly, BRMs are designed for instrumental reconnaissance on the battlefield. Intelligence from a place.
                  BRDM-reconnaissance of extension routes, etc. In motion, outside the battlefield.
                5. Lara Croft April 22 2020 11: 40 New
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                  Quote: Spade
                  Quote: Lara Croft
                  Not only did the tracked APCs on their base fall under the replacement,

                  ... in intelligence units. Which the British have a lot


                  Quote: Lara Croft
                  I am correct that the difference between BRM and BRDM

                  ... roughly, BRMs are designed for instrumental reconnaissance on the battlefield. Intelligence from a place.
                  BRDM-reconnaissance of extension routes, etc. In motion, outside the battlefield.

                  If the Russian Federation removes the BRDM-2 from service, then how can it be replaced?
                6. Lopatov April 22 2020 11: 52 New
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                  Quote: Lara Croft
                  If the Russian Federation removes the BRDM-2 from service, then how can it be replaced?

                  Armored personnel carrier.
                  Replace communications with specialized ones (one radio station BRDM-2 is categorically small)
                  Add navigation equipment similar to that installed on the KShM.
                  Add space for reconnaissance equipment and other equipment. Possibly UAV.

                  And there will be a great new BRDM.
                7. Lara Croft April 22 2020 12: 26 New
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                  Quote: Spade
                  Quote: Lara Croft
                  If the Russian Federation removes the BRDM-2 from service, then how can it be replaced?

                  Armored personnel carrier.
                  And there will be a great new BRDM.

                  It seems to me that "this is not our method", it seems to me that I need a smaller machine than an armored personnel carrier, it can use the experience of the "empirialists", if we made a small car in size, it would disperse among the armies of the CIS countries (and not only) like " pies "...
                  BTR, this is such a "cold" healthy ....
                8. Lopatov April 22 2020 12: 32 New
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                  Quote: Lara Croft
                  I need a smaller machine, it seems to me, than an armored personnel carrier

                  In the "smaller" does not fit.
                  In addition, the difference is small. 5.8 meters vs 7.7
                9. Lara Croft April 22 2020 13: 10 New
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                  Quote: Spade
                  Quote: Lara Croft
                  I need a smaller machine, it seems to me, than an armored personnel carrier

                  In the "smaller" does not fit.
                  In addition, the difference is small. 5.8 meters vs 7.7

                  Thank you for explaining the difference and features of the BRDM and BRM, here they rarely talk about it ...
  • V.I.P. April 21 2020 09: 14 New
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    Here is Kazakhstan's modernization together with the Turks .. RBDM-KZ. Diesel iveko, additional armor, 2 small water cannons, DUM with a cliff. Retractable mast for reconnaissance equipment (Turkish)
    1. V.I.P. April 21 2020 09: 32 New
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      There are also modernizations of the BRDM-2: Polish - there are 3 types, this extreme one is BRDM-2M-97 «bik-B.
      Czech-LOT-B.
      Serbian Kurјak. Here she is
      1. DeGreen April 21 2020 23: 27 New
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        I already wrote: a friend the other day I told about the modernization of the BRDM. Inside, on the sides, covered with Kevlar and polystyrene. They put the tablet and the mini-camera was brought on board. New pixels painted. And that’s it. New from ukroboponprom ready
  • V.I.P. April 21 2020 09: 38 New
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    In general, in Ukraine there are still options for modernization in addition to those indicated in the article. This is 2DP, 2I, 2T, Vepr ...... The most prolific Ukrainians in this thread))))))
  • Vadim Golubkov April 22 2020 06: 39 New
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    They have been written off for a long time in the Russian army. They sell or give to Serbia, Kyrgyzstan and Laos like.
  • Sahalinets April 21 2020 10: 59 New
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    Would you read an article or something ...
    According to reports, the BRDM-2L1 retains the previous power plant based on a gasoline engine and a standard mechanical transmission
  • Mister X April 21 2020 13: 50 New
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    Quote: V.I.P.
    I don’t understand why they write about a gas engine here, but they kind of put a diesel Deutz

    hi
    About Deutz I will not say, I did not find such information.
    There is evidence that the regular gasoline ZMZ-41 / GAZ-41 was changed to diesel MMZ (Minsk), IVECO, ISUZU.
    It is also possible to install an automatic transmission.
    Similar modernization was carried out by the Ekoprof enterprise, Kiev

    By the way, a few years ago I published a series of articles Second Life BRDM. Scouts on the "citizen".
    Search on IN.


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      Yes, it’s not clear why they didn’t install the relatively low-cost d-245, which is part of the modernization of both the BRDM and the shishigi and gas-71 ... They have no problems with the purchase of equipment and spare parts in Belarus. Apparently no money.
  • svp67 April 21 2020 16: 28 New
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    Quote: V.I.P.
    It is smaller in size, due to this the machine and extra people can accommodate ....

    No, due to the removal from the fighting compartment of a huge niche with additional wheels and drive on them ...
  • Doccor18 April 21 2020 08: 59 New
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    They all promoted their "Kozak".
    Well, where is he? One can see something wrong, since 40-year-old cars are going to be commissioned.
    1. Zementbomber April 21 2020 09: 35 New
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      “Kozak”, firstly, of another - and decently “younger” - class, and secondly - on an imported (Iveco Daily) chassis. Well and yes - it’s been in a large series by Ukrainian standards and has been armed with border guards and guardsmen since January 2015.
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    It would be better if they just bought Toyotov's pickups and put a machine gun in the back - it would have been more sense.

    Listen, are you a tactical stop and the landscape in the Donbass - can you imagine ?? Nafik there "pickups" with machine guns "?? Well this is not a" rubber war "in Ash Sharm.
    1. Sahalinets April 21 2020 11: 03 New
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      The pickup will have a chance to marry civilians and run away if that. But on this thing immediately start to shoot and kill.
      1. Sniper Amateur April 25 2020 00: 58 New
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        The pickup will have a chance to marry civilians and run away if that.

        I just imagine a group of lined up in a V-order pick-up, attacking a line dug up by artillery bombs platoon supports with anti-tank systems in them. And pickups at the same time - "pretend to be civilians" of course. Class! laughing
        PS I have combat experience - this is what.
  • Maki Avellevich April 21 2020 13: 35 New
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    Absolutely useless thing. Nothing of it is visible, armor makes its way to almost everyone, and the engine eats as if into itself. It would be better if they just bought Toyotov's pickups and put a machine gun in the back - it would have been more sense.

    100%!

    I once rode on such donkeys with collegues.
    unkillable (repaired with a hammer and mother)
    uninsured
    RPG does not take as there is nothing to take
    You can load trash on it immeasurably and there is a machine gun where you can add.
    review of 365 degrees and more
    miss them. the old people became extinct.



  • Diverter April 28 2020 23: 42 New
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    To begin with, I propose to decipher the BRDM and understand why this is necessary. Then think about the need for a pickup truck
  • Amateur April 21 2020 07: 13 New
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    If I understand correctly, then at the factory they throw out the "chassis", the lamp R-113, but weld the hatch / door from the decommissioned BTR-60 and paint it in the "non-winter" camouflage?
    1. Gray brother April 21 2020 11: 24 New
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      Quote: Amateur
      If I understand correctly, then at the factory they throw out the "chassis", the lamp R-113, but weld the hatch / door from the decommissioned BTR-60 and paint it in the "non-winter" camouflage?

      I read at the armored baron that there was still a driver’s teplak, the truth is why only he has a thermal imager in a reconnaissance vehicle, it remains a mystery to me.
    2. Lara Croft April 22 2020 01: 18 New
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      If I understand correctly, then at the factory they throw out the "chassis", the lamp R-113, but they weld the hatch / door decommissioned BTR-60 and paint in "non-fall" camouflage?

      It's a pity the BTR-60 is a good car, though I didn’t have time to catch it, I like it better than the 70s in films ...
      1. cat Rusich April 24 2020 00: 21 New
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        The first Btr-60P (1960) were without a machine gun turret. Since 1965, the Btr-60PA1 received a machine-gun tower, which was "borrowed" from the BRDM-2. Today, the BTR-60 "shared" its hatches with the BRDM-2 ...
        1. Lara Croft April 24 2020 00: 27 New
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          Quote: cat Rusich
          The first Btr-60P (1960) were without a machine gun turret.

          Thank you, I know, I also had a book "Zarnitsa" in my childhood, it was just painted ...
          In addition, the SA was preparing for war in the context of the use of weapons of mass destruction ...
        2. Sniper Amateur April 24 2020 22: 45 New
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          The first Btr-60P (1960) were without a machine gun turret. Since 1965, the Btr-60PA1 received a machine-gun tower, which was "borrowed" from the BRDM-2. Today, the BTR-60 "shared" its hatches with the BRDM-2 ...

          BTR-60PB. -60PA is crazy yet. But already with the case closed (in contrast to the open -60P).
  • Peter is not the first April 21 2020 08: 08 New
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    The article was both translated from Ukrainian and put up on the site: "The recent supply of modernized equipment gives reasons for optimism - but only within the framework of the current BRDM-2L1 project."
    It turns out that we, and especially the residents of Deneck and Lugansk, are optimistic that the Armed Forces and the National Battles with the supply of this outdated, but modernized equipment, have increased our level of mobility and armament.
    1. Andrei Nikolaevich April 21 2020 08: 43 New
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      You can only be happy for the Donbass. People made the right choice and with weapons in the crayfish fought back to the cranky fools.
  • Aleksandr1971 April 21 2020 08: 15 New
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    It is better to remake the BRDM into civilian SUVs for forestry, hunting and water management services, the Ministry of Emergencies, ambulance services, communications services in remote areas and the like.

    For military needs, the BRDM even at one time were already unsatisfactory.
    Here on the fronts of the Great Patriotic War they would not have a price!
    1. Sahalinets April 21 2020 11: 04 New
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      Gasoline is not enough. Do you know what the expense is?
      1. Aleksandr1971 April 21 2020 11: 20 New
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        In BRDM, value is high traffic. And the engine of course should be replaced, and not leave the engine from the GAZ-21 model of 1956.
        It is strange that the Ukrainians during the modernization of the BRDM left the ancient power unit, but at the same time removed additional pairs of wheels, which informed the car about ultra-high cross-country ability. They probably thought a pan on their heads.
        1. Bad_gr April 21 2020 12: 38 New
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          during the modernization of the BRDM, they left the ancient power unit, but at the same time removed additional pairs of wheels, which informed the car about ultra-high cross-country ability.

          Additional wheels are needed only to overcome the ditches, the rest of the time it’s a dead load and a lot of the occupied volume of the car, which could be distributed more rationally
          1. Aleksandr1971 April 21 2020 15: 07 New
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            To overcome the ditches and other off-road just designed BRDM2. And if you want to drive just on dirt roads with comfort, then you can simply adapt the UAZ. It is cheaper than rebuilding the BRDM. Or it’s even better to buy a kruzak if there are extra hryvnias.
  • Andrei Nikolaevich April 21 2020 08: 41 New
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    Five years of the war did not teach them anything. They continue to be engaged in shareware ... Soon in the country of pots, even scrap metal will not be found, everything ,, modernize ,,
  • Lopatov April 21 2020 09: 10 New
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    What is the point of filming extra. wheels, reducing the already low passability?
    1. bars1 April 21 2020 10: 02 New
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      Additional wheels are removed and hatches are made instead of them, in order to leave this unit faster when they knock it down, and be sure to knock it down.
      1. Lopatov April 21 2020 10: 07 New
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        Quote: bars1
        Additional wheels are removed and hatches are made instead of them, in order to leave this unit faster when they knock it down, and be sure to knock it down.

        The armored object limited in mobility will be smashed even faster.
    2. serezhasoldatow April 21 2020 11: 55 New
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      And where to insert the door?
  • Usher April 21 2020 09: 15 New
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    and full-time manual transmission. The latter is simplified due to the lack of additional wheels
    and the transmission was somehow involved?
    1. Lopatov April 21 2020 09: 32 New
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      and the transmission was somehow involved?

      Yes.
      Additional wheels are also driving
      1. Bad_gr April 21 2020 13: 03 New
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        Quote: Usher
        and the transmission was somehow involved?

        Yes.
        Additional wheels are also driving


        Take a look at the tread of these wheels. Will they add a lot to cross? Only to overcome the trenches (and something like that) as an additional support.
        1. Lopatov April 21 2020 16: 06 New
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          Take a look at the tread of these wheels. Will they add a lot to cross?

          A lot of.
          For it is not regrettable, the BRDM who has sat down on a belly does not go further. No matter how you sing the mantras that the doors on the board are needed ...
      2. Usher April 22 2020 16: 04 New
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        Quote: Spade
        Quote: Usher
        and the transmission was somehow involved?

        Yes.
        Additional wheels are also driving

        Clear, thanks for the reply.
  • Dym71 April 21 2020 10: 38 New
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    The weld is chic! good
    Tse not zvarnik, Tse priderach!
    bully
  • Badger April 21 2020 11: 57 New
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    For its time, it was a great car, and legends were made about its patency!
  • TermNachTer April 21 2020 19: 11 New
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    Well, as they say, they give out need for virtue. And if there, there was a "lawn" engine - 140 hp. and the old checkpoint, then everything is very sad. The point of modernization is that they removed the small wheels, put a new radio station and NVD? How much does this masterpiece cost?
  • APASUS April 21 2020 21: 22 New
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    I wonder how this is consistent in the APU old BRDM technology and new NATO standards? Or alteration of Soviet junk is quite possible, in the absence of money ..........
    1. Sniper Amateur April 21 2020 22: 30 New
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      Listen, in the Armed Forces of Ukraine - a good dozen minimum of OBT samples that are much older than this BRDM-2. Some of the samples removed from armament before my birth - the war in the Southeast forced to return to the troops. the "maximum" for example - since the front became static - is wildly popular. try-snipers - work as a "mosinka", not SVD. special forces working in the rear areas of the Separs - uses "Bramit". And tede and tepe.
    2. Lara Croft April 22 2020 01: 29 New
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      Quote: APASUS
      I wonder how this is consistent in the APU old BRDM technology and new NATO standards ?

      They only aspire to them ... quickly even flies do not get married ...
      Or remaking soviet junk quite possible, in the absence of money ..........

      "Orphans" stand on the protection of the entire "progressive humanity" from the "Morder" .. evil you ...
    3. Zementbomber April 25 2020 19: 50 New
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      I wonder how this is consistent in the APU old BRDM technology and new NATO standards?

      Exactly the same as the presence of the T-55 in half a dozen NATO armies. smile
      1. APASUS April 25 2020 21: 50 New
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        Quote: Zementbomber
        I wonder how this is consistent in the APU old BRDM technology and new NATO standards?

        Exactly the same as the presence of the T-55 in half a dozen NATO armies. smile

        Can the whole list be announced please, in which half a dozen NATO countries is the T-55 armed?
        1. Zementbomber April 25 2020 22: 09 New
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          Albania (Chinese version "type" 59 "), Bulgaria, Latvia, Romania (Soviet + local upgrade of TR.580), Croatia.
          1. APASUS April 26 2020 09: 28 New
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            Quote: Zementbomber
            Albania (Chinese version "type" 59 "), Bulgaria, Latvia, Romania (Soviet + local upgrade of TR.580), Croatia.

            Generally did not find information about tanks, can you prove what you said?
            Only Latvia had three T-55s in service, the rest had only ARVs based on the T-55 as of 2017
            1. Zementbomber April 27 2020 12: 28 New
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              "ZVO", which publishes every two years in the "Reference Data" section the structure and equipment of the armed forces of "foreign countries" (cr. Included in the CIS).
  • DeGreen April 21 2020 23: 20 New
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    A friend the other day told. 4 BRDM came to them in the workshop. For modernization. The rest is already ridiculous: the sides are covered with Kevlar and polystyrene from the inside. And that’s it. All modernization. Yes, the pixels were drawn. And there even rubber was 70 years old. From the modern, there was a tablet and a camera outside. But there was a show off. Like a novelty from Ukroboronprom. Even some Western newspaper men were
  • DeKo 5 June 2020 16: 41 New
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    The article is out of date. More than half of these supermobiles are recognized as married.