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Russia received from abroad applications for the purchase of T-14 Armata tanks

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Russia received from abroad applications for the purchase of T-14 Armata tanks

The discussion of the statements made by the head of the Ministry of Industry and Trade Denis Manturov in an interview with Russia 1 shopping center continues. In this interview, we recall, we went including the latest Russian armored vehicles, including Tanks T-14 Armata. On the eve of the news story, VO reported a statement by Denis Manturov about conducting T-14 tests in combat conditions in Syria.


The discussion this time is connected with the minister’s words about the export potential of a new generation tank created in Russia.

Denis Manturov noted that Russia already has preliminary applications from foreign partners for the supply of T-14 Armata.

The head of the Ministry of Industry and Trade did not specify what exactly such applications were received by the manufacturer of Almaty. However, Manturov made an important statement of a different kind. He spoke out that T-14 Armata tanks would not be sent for export until the start of serial deliveries to the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation.

Against this background, experts express their assumptions about which countries could make a preliminary order for the supply of batches or single samples of Russian tanks. One of the possible applicants is called India. However, at the moment there is no official confirmation from India itself that its authorities have applied for the purchase of new generation tanks from Russia.

Denis Manturov added that the sale of the T-14 tank to foreign countries can only be started after receiving a passport of the so-called export appearance.

For reference: for the needs of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation, by the end of 2021, deliveries of 132 T-14 and BMP T-15 tanks on the Armata platform are planned.
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  1. Teberii
    Teberii April 20 2020 07: 18 New
    23
    "Not a horse, not a cart" - and already a whole queue to sell abroad.
    1. Golovan Jack
      Golovan Jack April 20 2020 07: 53 New
      -15
      Quote: Teberii
      and already sell abroad a whole line

      1. I do not see the "line to sell".
      2. I do not even see the "buy queue". "Application for ..." is about nothing.

      Perhaps you see more than me request
      1. Teberii
        Teberii April 20 2020 08: 01 New
        -4
        The article was carefully read- "Denis Manturov noted that Russia already has preliminary orders from foreign partners for the supply of T-14" Armata "."
        1. Golovan Jack
          Golovan Jack April 20 2020 08: 05 New
          0
          Quote: Teberii
          Russia already has preliminary applications

          Quote: Golovan Jack
          "Application for ..." is about nothing.

          hi
          1. umah
            umah April 20 2020 12: 37 New
            +2
            for the needs of the RF Armed Forces by the end of 2021, it is planned to supply 132 T-14 tanks and T-15 BMPs on the Armata platform

            In the news on "Armata" I am always confused that the number of orders is indicated in general by the platform, and not "x" tanks and "y" BMPs.
        2. Mordvin 3
          Mordvin 3 April 20 2020 08: 28 New
          +7
          Quote: Teberii
          "Denis Manturov noted that Russia already has preliminary orders from foreign partners for the supply of T-14 Armata."

          In my opinion, Manturov overtook the engine.
          1. atalef
            atalef April 20 2020 09: 19 New
            +4
            Quote: mordvin xnumx
            Quote: Teberii
            "Denis Manturov noted that Russia already has preliminary orders from foreign partners for the supply of T-14 Armata."

            In my opinion, Manturov overtook the engine.

            Rogozin has a worthy competitor.
          2. mmaxx
            mmaxx April 21 2020 04: 18 New
            +5
            Manturov is a modern manager. The main thing in the face of the authorities is to radiate optimism. Promise me a lot. So that the authorities were happy. Otherwise, you are a defeatist and a bad manageo.
          3. Paul Siebert
            Paul Siebert April 21 2020 07: 30 New
            +7
            Quote: mordvin xnumx
            Quote: Teberii
            "Denis Manturov noted that Russia already has preliminary orders from foreign partners for the supply of T-14 Armata."

            In my opinion, Manturov overtook the engine.

            Our highly efficient managers rooftop against the backdrop of the coronavirus.
            Husky Manturov seduces the world with supplies of "Armata".
            While they themselves in the stall - one and a half mares ...
            But in the USSR it was forbidden to export some models of tanks. T-64, for example. Even to the countries of the Warsaw Pact ...
            Because they thought about the security of the Motherland, and not about a tight wallet ...
            Can remember that experience? That our safety is more important than cut paper? wink
            1. Mordvin 3
              Mordvin 3 April 21 2020 07: 32 New
              +4
              Quote: Paul Siebert
              Can remember that experience?

              That experience has long been scored and forgotten.
        3. Ramadan
          Ramadan April 20 2020 08: 58 New
          11
          An application is only a sign of intent (interest in the product), but it is not at all a solid purchase contract with payment. Interest can appear as well as an abyss. And it may be true, but it may not!
          Not a word of Manturov about anything, but the whole.
      2. Navat
        Navat April 20 2020 11: 04 New
        -4
        I bet on Iran
      3. Alekseev
        Alekseev April 21 2020 09: 54 New
        -3
        Quote: Golovan Jack
        "Application for ..." is about nothing.

        Well, given your, in all, vast experience in selling BTTs abroad, such insight is not surprising. lol
        But ... nevertheless, everything starts small, first it is the application, the protocol of intent, then the big work on the study of the product, the price, etc., and only then a firm contract, which, by the way, is very secret, and should not be communicated to the couches ... Only in fact, after all, will the media report "in the part concerning".
        1. notingem
          notingem April 21 2020 21: 06 New
          +1
          Yes, and you have great experience. Type specialist. Certified
          1. notingem
            notingem April 21 2020 21: 13 New
            +1
            Only constantly it turns out that any Papuan is better versed in the arms market and trade than our TRADING OFFICERS
    2. knn54
      knn54 April 20 2020 07: 54 New
      +1
      Chelyabinsk Tractor Plant (engine developer) recently reported;
      “As a result, it became obvious that the serial production of the developed engine due to its flaws and technically unattainable parameters is impractical.”
      WHAT diesel installed?
      1. Golovan Jack
        Golovan Jack April 20 2020 08: 20 New
        +6
        Quote: knn54
        Chelyabinsk Tractor Plant (engine developer) recently reported

        This Mayya has been surfing the Internet for half a year since ... I can’t find the source, can you help? repeat
        1. knn54
          knn54 April 20 2020 10: 04 New
          +2
          Roman.In exchange for a photo of T-14 TEST in Syria,
          1. Golovan Jack
            Golovan Jack April 20 2020 11: 30 New
            +2
            Quote: knn54
            In exchange for a photo of T-14 TEST in Syria

            Yesterday, some kind of photo-toad was published here. Will it go? wink
        2. Prisoner
          Prisoner April 20 2020 11: 49 New
          +1
          This is probably with the English-language sites need to start the search. laughing Although there is most likely also a message to "competent sources" without specifics. hi
      2. Albert1988
        Albert1988 April 20 2020 11: 12 New
        0
        Quote: knn54
        WHAT diesel installed?

        Which one stood - the X-shaped covered the development of one of the options for the V-shaped ...
      3. iouris
        iouris April 20 2020 11: 36 New
        -11
        Quote: knn54
        WHAT diesel installed?

        Maybe German. Although, maybe the Chinese "factory".
      4. Alekseev
        Alekseev April 21 2020 10: 03 New
        -1
        Quote: knn54
        WHAT diesel installed?

        2B-12, aka A-85-3A. It has already been tested and quite successfully, though in the 16 cylinder version on rev.219RD in the 80's. last century. Now they wanted something better, V-shaped (or cheaper, but just as powerful? wink ) but did not grow together. the true reasons, apart from rumors, are not published for these R&D and other details.
        Yes, and more or less detailed device and characteristics of 2B-12 are still secret.
    3. KCA
      KCA April 20 2020 08: 04 New
      12
      Some military equipment begins to sell even before the first prototypes, the F-35, for example, has not yet taken off, but sold to a bunch of countries, the "partnership program" was called
      1. Grigory_45
        Grigory_45 April 20 2020 17: 42 New
        +3
        Quote: KCA
        F-35, for example, not one has yet taken off, but sold to a bunch of countries

        not to a bunch of countries, but to JSF member countries. Countries that invested in the project were developing the aircraft or preparing to produce its components. F-35 was going to sell to third-party states only after meet the needs of participating countries.
        All international projects are implemented according to this scheme.
    4. svp67
      svp67 April 20 2020 08: 30 New
      15
      Quote: Teberii
      "Not a horse, not a cart" - and already a whole queue to sell abroad.

      I can even name with 100% the country and a possible party. China, a batch of 10 tanks ... He will be the first who wants to buy this tank. Explain why ...
      1. Lipchanin
        Lipchanin April 20 2020 09: 02 New
        +1
        Quote: svp67
        I can even name with 100% the country and a possible party. China, a batch of 10 tanks ... He will be the first who wants to buy this tank. Explain why ...

        That in article there is a hint of it lol
        which countries could make a preliminary order for the supply of batches or single samples of Russian tanks.

        There’s no need to guess
      2. awdrgy
        awdrgy April 20 2020 09: 11 New
        +6
        So they need to sell t10 boiled under "Armata" - let them figure it out for nanotechnology)))
      3. Grits
        Grits April 20 2020 09: 33 New
        +3
        Quote: svp67
        Explain why ...

        I'll try to guess. So that before the start of a breathtaking series of hundreds of tanks in the Russian army, a thousand new Type ...... tanks appeared in China, painfully similar to Armata.
    5. Maz
      Maz April 20 2020 11: 05 New
      0

      If the sun rises in the morning, then someone needs it
  2. Karaul73
    Karaul73 April 20 2020 07: 20 New
    10
    You can’t sell abroad. All secrets will be stolen. This is especially true of China.
    1. Tusv
      Tusv April 20 2020 07: 37 New
      +9
      Quote: Sentry73
      You can’t sell abroad. All secrets will be stolen. This is especially true of China.

      What are you talking about? They have long had type 99 the best tank in the world. Suspension, armor, gun - a napkin and even on T. biathlon never broke - forgot to bring. But the price tag needs to be lifted up by the French Leclerc plus 10 megabytes
    2. Lipchanin
      Lipchanin April 20 2020 09: 04 New
      +1
      Quote: Sentry73
      You can’t sell abroad.

      You were born today
      We sold, we sell and we will sell
      Russia takes the second and sometimes the first place in the sale of weapons
  3. Rambam
    Rambam April 20 2020 07: 23 New
    +5
    And in the arena the horse goes and pulls an armored train on a rope ....
  4. Ingvar 72
    Ingvar 72 April 20 2020 07: 23 New
    15
    What an incomprehensible article, based on the vague thoughts of Manturov. Neither the customer is known nor the quantity. Fortunetelling on coffee grounds. negative
    1. Gato
      Gato April 20 2020 07: 40 New
      +7
      We have such devices! But we won’t tell you about them ...
      (C)
    2. Svarog
      Svarog April 20 2020 07: 40 New
      +1
      Quote: Ingvar 72
      What an incomprehensible article, based on the vague thoughts of Manturov. Neither the customer is known nor the quantity. Fortunetelling on coffee grounds. negative

      This Manturov, he is still a dreamer .. How many castles he painted in the air .. but as usual, nothing was realized ..
      1. The comment was deleted.
        1. V.I.P.
          V.I.P. April 20 2020 08: 43 New
          +3
          What's wrong with that? It's just that people are patriots of not one country, like some, but several. They take care of residents of other countries. It wasn’t like that in the totalitarian USSR; at best, they felled the forest. And in the Russian Federation it is even encouraged, for such people all doors are open))))
        2. Gardamir
          Gardamir April 20 2020 09: 26 New
          -7
          Deputy Prime Minister of the Russian Federation Olga Golodets has a residence permit in Italy. . Minister of Labor and Social Security. Deputy Minister of Finance Alexey Lavrov has permanent residence in Italy.

          so that’s why the planes flew to Italy.
          1. Charik
            Charik April 21 2020 04: 12 New
            +1
            will the nightingale dacha also be washed away from the cove?
        3. Svarog
          Svarog April 20 2020 10: 39 New
          -1
          Quote: ROSS 42
          completely disfigured by intelligence ...

          laughing
          Everything is like selection, storytellers .. and the club of storytellers is headed by the main storyteller .. It’s evident that they have such a selection criterion, the only thing that a candidate for government should be able to tell is fairy tales ..
        4. Paranoid50
          Paranoid50 April 20 2020 13: 41 New
          0
          Quote: ROSS 42
          about Russian castles in the air if:

          Oh, a sketch with a curve of a shovel. fellow
          Quote: ROSS 42
          completely disfigured by intelligence ...

          As soon as you reveal your "bright face", there will be an opportunity for comparison. yes
          Although, what am I ... laughing
        5. Charik
          Charik April 21 2020 04: 11 New
          -1
          and they laughed at a neighboring country that their government was half foreign
      2. Golovan Jack
        Golovan Jack April 20 2020 07: 51 New
        0
        Quote: Svarog
        How many castles in the air he painted .. but as usual, nothing was realized ..

        Have you completed the house, buddy? wink
        1. Ross xnumx
          Ross xnumx April 20 2020 12: 04 New
          -4
          Quote: Golovan Jack
          Have you completed the house, buddy?

          Quote: Golovan Jack
          Not ... but at the training ground in Tagil and on Red Square - glitches traveled.

          Quote: Golovan Jack
          And you should not see him. You are not supposed to

          Quote: Golovan Jack
          God forbid ... your character is not suitable for me

          I will summarize your “pearls”. There is such a definition - “master chain dog”. This one who needs it will wag his tail, and to whom he will show his teeth. When he becomes old, they cease to be afraid of him, and the owner may stop feeding him. crying
          And then the question arises: “For the sake of which life has been lived in servility, slaughter and eternal anger towards those whom the owner will point to?”
          Glitches are not glitches, but there is not a single warhead with the T-14. Front combat group.
          A tank biathlon could show why the Russian “horseradish” is sweeter than the Chinese “radish” ... And, perhaps, the American “corn”. Even with three attempts.
          1. Golovan Jack
            Golovan Jack April 20 2020 12: 13 New
            +2
            Quote: ROSS 42
            There is such a definition - “master chain dog”. This one who needs it will wag his tail, and to whom he will show his teeth. When he becomes old, they stop being afraid of him, and the owner may stop feeding him

            Man, this is exactly what I’m doing right now:


            Agree, this has a very distant relation to your model laughing

            Quote: ROSS 42
            not a single warhead with the T-14 is not.

            It’s hard to disagree.

            Quote: ROSS 42
            Front combat group

            Um ... they also talked about military (military, KARL !!!) trials ... but no one is obliged to report to me about this or, I believe, to you.

            Quote: ROSS 42
            A tank biathlon could show ...

            Listen, don’t get into the tanks ... I once commanded a platoon of sixty-fours ... and you? fool negative stop
      3. Okolotochny
        Okolotochny April 20 2020 10: 20 New
        0
        So there is someone who is learning - communism in 20 years and catching up and overtaking America. lol
        1. Okolotochny
          Okolotochny April 20 2020 17: 53 New
          +4
          And what's wrong, minusers? Or have you forgotten with which banners you went to the demonstrations? Or what slogans hung on every corner?
    3. DMB 75
      DMB 75 April 20 2020 07: 42 New
      11
      Yes, with "Armata" in general, there is enough fog, little specifics. In four years there will be a garden city. That's it. Point. What, when, what trees in that garden will bloom, nothing is clear ...
      1. Pereira
        Pereira April 20 2020 08: 02 New
        0
        Was there Armata?
        1. Golovan Jack
          Golovan Jack April 20 2020 08: 08 New
          +3
          Quote: Pereira
          Was there Armata?

          Not ... but at the training ground in Tagil and on Red Square - glitches traveled.
          1. Pereira
            Pereira April 20 2020 08: 36 New
            0
            Below Voroshilov shooter answered beautifully. I have nothing to add. So yes, a hatch drove on Red Square.
            1. Mordvin 3
              Mordvin 3 April 20 2020 08: 50 New
              +3
              Quote: Pereira
              a hatch drove on Red Square.

              Luke, or glitch?
              1. Pereira
                Pereira April 20 2020 08: 52 New
                +2
                Glitch with a hatch.
                1. Golovan Jack
                  Golovan Jack April 20 2020 10: 09 New
                  0
                  Quote: Pereira
                  Glitch with a hatch.

                  Do you know this for sure (then, from where it is interesting), or does it just seem to you like that?

                  Quote: kjhg
                  third world level

                  Yes, a great answer.

                  Everything else there is a compilation of online tales.

                  But I once communicated, for example, with the guys from the Steel Research Institute (it turned out that my classmate worked there), and I had some information (like hints). I emphasize real information. Now this person is dead, and I have to communicate with (censorship), claiming that I know nothing nicerta, things that fundamentally contradict what I know for sure.

                  Chur me, chur negative
                  1. Pereira
                    Pereira April 20 2020 10: 29 New
                    -2
                    Do you know this for sure (then, from where it is interesting), or does it just seem to you like that?

                    I see the result. And to be precise, on the contrary, I do not see the result. Result = 0 anyway. It's like with the destroyer "Leader".
                    In short, it doesn’t seem to us, or if something really traveled in the area, since this is not in the troops.
                    But there was a hatch. That's for sure.
                    1. Golovan Jack
                      Golovan Jack April 20 2020 11: 29 New
                      -1
                      Quote: Pereira
                      I see the result. But to be precise, on the contrary, I do not see the result

                      And you should not see him. You are not supposed to tongue
                    2. mister-red
                      mister-red April 20 2020 22: 33 New
                      0
                      In fact, comparing what is only in the drawings and what moves and shoots is somehow wrong. Somewhere you look like Ukrainians who shouted that there would be no bridge. Maybe we'll wait with conclusions for now.
                    3. mmaxx
                      mmaxx April 21 2020 04: 23 New
                      0
                      She ... Well, the tank is driving. And the destroyer did not even show normal drawings. Modelka from logs and all.
        2. kjhg
          kjhg April 20 2020 08: 29 New
          +1
          Quote: Pereira
          Was there Armata?

          With those TTX, which she had to comply with and which are widespread on the Internet, it does not exist. There are only prototypes that are trying to bring to the level of the well-known Armata tank. Apparently, this work is progressing very hard. Nevertheless, it’s one thing to design a fundamentally new tank, which our designers did very well, and it’s quite another to realize it all in iron, having at hand industry at the level of third world countries.
          It is already obvious to everyone that in the foreseeable future Armata will not become a single platform for heavy tracked armored vehicles in the army, as it was presented to us with a grandiose pump in the early 2010s. leaders of the army and industry at various levels. Fight, in which case, will have to ancient T-72, modified to the level of T-72B3. But how these tanks are able to withstand modern threats, such as Javelin, Tou, Spike, Helfayer, is known to all - nothing.
          1. Varyag_0711
            Varyag_0711 April 20 2020 09: 00 New
            +2
            kjhg (Voroshilov shooter)
            Fight, in which case, will have to ancient T-72, modified to the level of T-72B3. But how these tanks are able to withstand modern threats, such as Javelin, Tou, Spike, Helfayer, is known to all - nothing.
            I don’t want to upset you, but amers will have to fight on "Abrams", which by the way, not all have the latest modification, and which can be destroyed from our good old RPG-7, and in some cases even from their heavy machine gun. Here is a lot of food ...
            1. kotvov
              kotvov April 20 2020 09: 16 New
              -2
              s from our good old RPG-7, and in some cases even their heavy machine gun. What a hell ...
              Why are we throwing hats. War is only possible in local conflicts. And that is not between the United States and Russia, but their potential allies.
            2. kjhg
              kjhg April 20 2020 09: 33 New
              0
              Quote: Varyag_0711
              I do not want to upset you, but amers will have to fight on "Abrams"

              What makes you think that I should be upset? Ah, well, yes, yes, agents of the State Department, the fifth column and enemies all around lol.
              Quote: Varyag_0711
              which by the way, by no means all have the latest modification, and which can be destroyed from our good old RPG-7, and in some cases even their heavy machine gun

              I do not want to advocate Abramsov here. This is what you want, but not me. I wrote about the obvious flaws of the main tank of our army. Let those whose relatives, in which case, have to burn in them, worry about the weaknesses of the Abrams. But since you, without giving any arguments in favor of the T-72B3, and therefore recognizing my comments, turned the arrows to Abrams, I have to answer you that your words are not true. Yes, there were indeed cases of the failure of Abrams tanks from RPG-7. It was in Iraq. But since then, the Abrams have undergone more than one modernization to increase survivability from just this type of threat. This time. Two - the latest modifications of the Abrams include, among other things, the Israeli KAZ Trophy, which is supposed to intercept ATGMs, shells of hand grenade launchers and more. In this he has no equal today. So far, Trophy does not protect against missiles hitting from above, but we still do not have such homing anti-tank missiles. Now, when there will be analogues of Helfaers and Javelins, then we will throw bonnets into the air, agreed? In the meantime, I have a request for you, do not write more rubbish about RPG-7 against the Abrams and, especially, heavy machine guns. Ashamed, honestly negative With the same success, caps can be used.
              1. Alexander Suvorov
                Alexander Suvorov April 20 2020 09: 57 New
                0
                kjhg (Voroshilov shooter)
                Yes, there were indeed cases of the failure of Abrams tanks from RPG-7. It was in Iraq. But since then, the Abrams have undergone more than one modernization to increase survivability from just this type of threat.
                Suppose they have passed, but how many have passed this upgrade? And why do you only take Iraq? As far as I know, the losses of the Abrams were also from Saudi Arabia in Yemen. Will you say that there are old "Abrams" without modernization? So I will tell you that they are not old, and the Hussites are not armed with "Kornets" with "TOU", but the same RPGs.
                Two - the latest modifications of the Abrams include, among other things, the Israeli KAZ Trophy, which is supposed to intercept ATGMs, shells of hand grenade launchers and more.
                Again, how many tanks are equipped with this protection, this time. And how much this advertised defense is actually effective is two.
                So the real capabilities of both tanks and countermeasures can be assessed only in real databases. I've seen how the T-90 remained intact after hitting it with the same Tou, but with the Abrams there were no such videos.
                1. Vadim237
                  Vadim237 April 20 2020 13: 49 New
                  -1
                  The Khusitov are armed with copies of Iranian-made Cornets of a copy of an RPG of 29 Iranian-made ATGM Fagot LNG 9 and RPG 7 Competitions also have shots of a copy of PG 7VR. But the Saram Abrams do not have any protection at all with bare armor on all tanks.
                2. Grigory_45
                  Grigory_45 April 20 2020 18: 31 New
                  -1
                  Quote: Alexander Suvorov
                  Suppose they passed, but how many of them have passed this modernization?

                  Abrams are still being modernized; one program is being replaced by another. Now, all tanks should receive KAZ. While purchased kits for the tank brigade.

                  Quote: Alexander Suvorov
                  So I will tell you that they are not old, and the Hussites are not armed with "Kornets" with "TOU", but the same RPGs.

                  the Hussites have anti-tank systems, including Cornets You are not corny in the know.

                  Quote: Alexander Suvorov
                  And how much is this advertised defense really effective

                  quite effective. For example, Israeli Merkavas, whose losses decreased by an order after the installation of the Trophy. Despite the fact that TROPHY is not the most sophisticated KAZ, it can shoot down only subsonic ATGMs and grenades. To replace him come up with something more serious that can reflect BOPS

                  Quote: Alexander Suvorov
                  I've seen how the T-90 remained intact after hitting it with the same Tou, but with the Abrams there were no such videos.

                  But I've seen a photo of the T-72 towers torn off by the explosion, moreover, not from being hit by a heavy ATGM. And the Abrams with multiple RPG hits. What are you trying to prove with such childish "arguments"? So far, you have managed to prove only one thing: tanks are not your topic, you practically do not know anything.
                  1. good
                    good April 20 2020 21: 21 New
                    +1
                    where recently merkavs participated in street battles or in direct tank attacks? :)
                    they have long been buried as sau used and it saves them best and not fabulous active defense
            3. 72jora72
              72jora72 April 20 2020 11: 17 New
              +4
              but amers will have to fight on "Abrams", which, by the way, not all have the latest modification, and which can be destroyed from our good old RPG-7
              Do you want me to reveal a terrible secret to you, from RPG-7 you can knock out any of the existing tanks.
            4. Korax71
              Korax71 April 20 2020 13: 30 New
              +1
              I would not like to upset you either, but there is a good work of V. Belogrud "Tanks in the battles for Grozny" in two parts. There is a lot of information on the type of tanks destroyed, their affiliation, methods of destruction, including the names of the crew. Plus photos of damaged tanks. Abrams is a single case of defeat of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, as a result of which the fire spread to the engine compartment, which led to the engine stopping. The battle was used up all the ammunition of the coaxial machine gun, after which the tank commander went up the hatch and continued to fire from the anti-aircraft machine gun, while receiving twice a wound in the right arm. The tank belonged to company "B" of the 1st tank battalion, 64th tank regiment, 3rd infantry division.
            5. Peter is not the first
              Peter is not the first April 20 2020 13: 53 New
              -1
              And I will try to reveal the secret that we will not have to fight either the T-72B3 or the T-14 with the American "Abrams". We will not have time, neither we, nor they. We go to heaven, and they go to hell, from a flash and shock wave, as well as from radiation, after atomic (atomic) explosions.
              1. mmaxx
                mmaxx April 21 2020 04: 27 New
                +1
                They have been scaring nuclear war for 70 years. And for some reason all wars go wrong. And there are tanks and infantry. And tanks burn and infantry perishes. And no nuclear explosions.
            6. Grigory_45
              Grigory_45 April 20 2020 18: 00 New
              +1
              Quote: Varyag_0711
              I don’t want to upset you, but amers will have to fight on "Abrams", which, by the way, not all have the latest modification, and which can be destroyed from our good old RPG-7

              I’ll tell you more - you can destroy any tank from the same RPG-7. But only in combat conditions it is more luck than reality.

              Do you think stereotypically about everything? I can give examples when Abrams withstood 14 (!) Hits from an RPG, and crawled off the battlefield on its own. I can give examples where from a single hit in the turret ammunition stowage I "threw" the head of the T-72. Following your logic, we can say that the Abrams is invincible, and the T-72 does not hold an RPG shot. But I don’t say that, because it’s not true. And here's nothing stopping you from telling lies and nonsense?

              Specialists (and not couch urry patriots like you) know that Abrams is a very serious opponent, one of the most well-armored western vehicles, with excellent sights and electronics.
              In addition, the Abrams are now massively equipping KAZ, which the Russian serial tanks, apparently, will not be able to wait ...

              But you - cap all over, because of the sofa)
          2. Lipchanin
            Lipchanin April 20 2020 09: 11 New
            0
            Quote: kjhg
            But how these tanks are able to withstand modern threats, such as Javelin, Tou, Spike, Helfayer, is known to all - nothing.

            Well, where are these
            Javelin, Toe, Spike, Helfair,

            Used against T-72B3?
          3. Albert1988
            Albert1988 April 20 2020 11: 16 New
            -3
            Quote: kjhg
            With those TTX, which she had to comply with and which are widespread on the Internet, it does not exist. There are only prototypes that are trying to bring to the level of the well-known Armata tank.

            ABOUT! Yes, you, it turns out, are the developer of "armata"? Great, at least one of the people working on the project appeared on the site, otherwise there were a couple of people - they reported information, albeit meager, but all disappeared request

            Tell us, how are they working on the "armature" at your design bureau?
    4. Starover_Z
      Starover_Z April 20 2020 08: 32 New
      +1
      Quote: Ingvar 72
      What an incomprehensible article, based on the vague thoughts of Manturov. Neither the customer is known nor the quantity. Fortunetelling on coffee grounds. negative

      Applications may not be. They have not yet announced the launch of the series. And this statement will easily create a stir - Russia is selling new generation tanks! I wonder why this is done?
      1. Lipchanin
        Lipchanin April 20 2020 09: 12 New
        0
        Quote: Starover_Z
        I wonder why this is done?

        For advertising
        . They have not yet announced the launch of the series.

        And this
        For the needs of the RF Armed Forces, by the end of 2021, it is planned to deliver 132 T-14 tanks and T-15 BMPs on the Armata platform.

        Isn't it a series?










        1. Grigory_45
          Grigory_45 April 20 2020 18: 40 New
          +1
          Quote: Lipchanin
          For advertising

          wassat someone yesterday with foam at the mouth argued that the hype around Almaty is not a marketing ploy, not a promotion of products to potential customers. And - voila, the statement of the same Manturov.
          Sometimes it’s good to think with your head and not grind with your tongue. The trouble is that most have a head vacuum)
    5. Roman123567
      Roman123567 April 20 2020 08: 41 New
      -1
      The customer may not be ..
      But if you really want to sell, you need to shout at every corner that there’s a line of buyers for the tank, etc.
      You see, there the real client is brewing ..

      In general, not everything is so simple, of course .. here the game is long, marketing for the future ..
      Any positive mention of the tank will be credited to him in the future ..
      And the phrases "Armata in Syria", "Applications for Armata from foreign partners" are undoubtedly positive in terms of evaluating the tank ..
    6. Lipchanin
      Lipchanin April 20 2020 09: 08 New
      -2
      Quote: Ingvar 72
      Neither the customer is known nor the quantity.

      The term trade secret is certainly not known to you
      Denis Manturov noted that Russia already has preliminary applications

      Preliminary applications, these are not yet full applications.
      So early to talk about it
      1. Ingvar 72
        Ingvar 72 April 20 2020 09: 57 New
        +2
        Quote: Lipchanin
        The term trade secret is certainly not known to you
        To announce to everyone that you know something secret is a banal way to attract attention. wink
        And preliminary applications are full-fledged, because they are pre-advanced. A simple desire to buy is called a commercial interest. hi
        1. Lipchanin
          Lipchanin April 20 2020 10: 05 New
          -4
          Quote: Ingvar 72
          And preliminary applications are full-fledged, because they are pre-advanced.

          I want to buy, does not mean that I will buy.
          For what money to pay?
          I am in an online store when I want to buy something, but I either have no money, or I have not yet firmly decided, I put this product in the "basket". I don’t pay any money.
          Isn't this a "pre-application"?
          1. Ingvar 72
            Ingvar 72 April 20 2020 20: 00 New
            +2
            Quote: Lipchanin
            I am in an online store when I want to buy something, but I either have no money, or I have not yet firmly decided, I put this product in the "basket".

            Compare horseradish (plant) with a finger. Here, upon prior request, production schedules are planned, and production facilities are prepared. This is an ORDER, not a sale from a warehouse.
          2. mmaxx
            mmaxx April 21 2020 04: 30 New
            0
            Definitely a preliminary application. Plus.
            All these intentions are empty words. As the Americans say: "If we are not talking about money, then this is all talk."
  5. Dimka75
    Dimka75 April 20 2020 07: 32 New
    +4
    It is known that nothing is really known, but this is not for sure :-)
    1. neri73-r
      neri73-r April 20 2020 07: 36 New
      -2
      Yeah, what to be, that is not destined!
  6. Ross xnumx
    Ross xnumx April 20 2020 07: 39 New
    -5
    Russia received from abroad applications for the purchase of T-14 Armata tanks

    Only the "truth":
    Denis Manturov noted that Russia already has preliminary applications from foreign partners for the supply of T-14 Armata ... The head of the Ministry of Industry and Trade did not specify from whom exactly the manufacturer of Almaty received such applications ... official confirmation from India itself that its authorities had submitted an application for the purchase of new generation tanks from Russia, no.

    So where and who is there ABROAD??? Hence the situation from the joke:

    laughing
    1. Golovan Jack
      Golovan Jack April 20 2020 07: 55 New
      -2
      Quote: ROSS 42
      Only "truth" ...

      ... a la "on the fence" bolt "is written ... the girls climbed, checked" laughing
      1. Ross xnumx
        Ross xnumx April 20 2020 07: 58 New
        -1
        Quote: Golovan Jack
        girls climbed, checked

        I’m not a girl for you to check drawn bolts, but “truth” means only that all phrases are from an article (publication). Nothing excess personal ... repeat
        1. Golovan Jack
          Golovan Jack April 20 2020 08: 04 New
          -5
          Quote: ROSS 42
          I'm not your girlfriend

          God forbid ... your character is not suitable for me laughing
        2. Lipchanin
          Lipchanin April 20 2020 09: 17 New
          +2
          Quote: ROSS 42
          I'm not your girlfriend

          lol
  7. askort154
    askort154 April 20 2020 07: 50 New
    +2
    Russia received from abroad applications for the purchase of T-14 Armata tanks

    Manturov did not voice those interested. And this is quite understandable. Why put these countries under the "roller" of the United States in advance?
    1. serg.shishkov2015
      serg.shishkov2015 April 20 2020 07: 55 New
      -3
      And if among those who want the United States? Suddenly, they decided to replace Abrash with Armata!
    2. Ross xnumx
      Ross xnumx April 20 2020 11: 52 New
      -2
      Quote: askort154
      Manturov did not voice those interested. And this is quite understandable. Why put these countries under the "roller" of the United States in advance?

      wassat Judging by how gold is brought to GB, this is the first country on the list ...
      Why bother with arms trade with other countries? Suddenly the US will be offended? For world countries to rush to buy the T-14, it’s not enough to spend it on Red Square, it’s not enough to “light up”
      it in Syria, we must also put production in such a way that the tanks fly off the assembly line, like hot cakes from the oven; it is necessary to provide after-sales service and warranty repairs; it is necessary to determine your own tank forces and old modifications. Among other things, the tank should clearly demonstrate the parameters and characteristics incorporated into it ...
      And the radio points of “scoring”, as well as “zeroing”, and “self-isolation” are less in demand.
      1. Paranoid50
        Paranoid50 April 20 2020 13: 56 New
        +1
        Quote: ROSS 42
        gold is being brought to GB,

        The trouble is the trouble ... and again the rotten. However, a flea market is formed with an assortment of counterfeit and delayed products. fellow
  8. Thrifty
    Thrifty April 20 2020 07: 51 New
    0
    One hundred pounds, the Chinese want to buy, for copying! Moreover, technology will also require! The news is sad, if you started talking about its sale in a foreign country, it means that you yourself conducted such negotiations behind the scenes!
    1. Cruorvult
      Cruorvult April 20 2020 08: 40 New
      +2
      What an interesting logic, that is, if someone came to you with an offer to "sell", then automatically "such negotiations were conducted behind the scenes."

      Why China, why not India or the UAE?
  9. Pvi1206
    Pvi1206 April 20 2020 07: 52 New
    +2
    pure PR move ...
  10. V.I.P.
    V.I.P. April 20 2020 08: 33 New
    -4
    Nonsense. When they fired "calibers" in Syria, what promo videos the TV played. Like small ships shoot from the Caspian, like diesel men from under water. How the S-400 was brought to the base and how the shell shoots too .. How the Su-24 throws blanks with Hephaestus .. And a lot of other promotions were played ... ... And then there was such an event, a ceremonial tank in Syria. And silence. No photos or videos. Only fairy tales ... ...
    And yes, who will write that he is terribly secret for this, so the "Caliber" or the MiG-31 with the "Dagger" is much more secret)))
  11. Roman123567
    Roman123567 April 20 2020 08: 35 New
    -2
    Bugaga ..))
    Only last night, the Putriots tried hard to prove that Manturov’s statement about testing the tank in Syria was in no way connected with trade, marketing and PR, and the tank was taken there purely to detect sores ..

    Quote: Lipchanin
    Quote: Gregory_45
    Marketing - a set of actions to promote the product to potential buyers in order to obtain benefits for the seller in the sale of the product (if absolutely simple).

    But what kind of marketing is it, if NO ONE knows about the tests and their results ??
    For implementation, ADVERTISING
    Have you seen the commercials about testing the tank in Syria?
    1. Okolotochny
      Okolotochny April 20 2020 10: 23 New
      +1
      Just last night putriots

      Are you a cryman?
  12. rocket757
    rocket757 April 20 2020 08: 39 New
    0
    On time / not on time "advertisement", requires reinforcement ... at least something!
    Okay, they’re doing the product, they’re testing it, maybe the military operation will open a lot of interesting !!! But the product is not yet available, Schaub supply it somewhere .... in short questions, questions and more questions.
  13. APASUS
    APASUS April 20 2020 09: 09 New
    +2
    There’s even a guess at who wrote the application - China. Another thing is that they only need 5-6 pieces. It makes no sense to contact such a customer
  14. sanik2020
    sanik2020 April 20 2020 09: 26 New
    0
    There are applications, no applications, nothing should be taken for the truth.
    Manturov’s statement is like a stone thrown into a swamp, now they sit and watch in the Kremlin and the defense how a frog croaks, conclusions later.
  15. Alexey from Perm
    Alexey from Perm April 20 2020 09: 31 New
    +1
    For the supply of a single sample, it is necessary to put the signatory on the wall and shoot in public.
  16. Maas
    Maas April 20 2020 09: 32 New
    -1
    All this is wonderful, but from year to year, Russia's position in the international arms export market has weakened. Obviously, the prospects are not very good. On the Soviet backlogs, they lasted so long.
  17. Esaul
    Esaul April 20 2020 09: 37 New
    -1
    If you sell them, then at least 5-7 years later, when we will have more than 500 pieces. And sell in batches of 30 or more. Another thing is that officials from the Ministry of Industry and Trade and their mother will sell their own for money.
  18. Cycle boss
    Cycle boss April 20 2020 10: 35 New
    0
    Probably the Chinese want to buy .. and start copying ..
  19. parkello
    parkello April 20 2020 10: 47 New
    +1
    India, Algeria, Egypt ... these countries can quite afford such a luxury as the T-14. moreover, Egypt has close friendly relations with Greece and Cyprus militarily. what they buy, then they jointly conduct flights with Greek pilots. our pilots flew with their pilots on "humpbacks" and they were very praised for their maneuverability and for their quick ascent to dominant heights. the only thing they never got involved with was work on targets. they flew in two-way aircraft, but without navigators. there were Egyptian navigators. Algeria can easily acquire these tanks. they have almost all the equipment in Russia and they have money. planes, helicopters, tanks ... and they are very happy with what they buy from Russia. The Egyptians are also happy. After the F-16 and Mirages, the Greek pilots tried humpbacks (MiG29SM) and were surprised how easily it gains altitude, quickly and effortlessly, its maneuverability. but they didn't let me work with the radar. By the way, Cyprus can also easily request a T-14. They have already used the T-80 up and down ... and the BMP-3. I was so jealous, they have BMP-3, and we only have a penny, and even then most of them have not been on the move for a long time .. they are only for show-off. And the guys who served in ELDIK in Cyprus praised them very much, maneuverability and firepower there it is quite for itself, our motorized riflemen have never dreamed of this, especially in terms of firepower. 100 mm + 30ka coupled
  20. vladcub
    vladcub April 20 2020 10: 57 New
    0
    Quote: Golovan Jack
    Quote: Teberii
    and already sell abroad a whole line

    1. I do not see the "line to sell".
    2. I do not even see the "buy queue". "Application for ..." is about nothing.

    Perhaps you see more than me request

    Jack, you +: how
    You turn on FIG if there is no T-14.? As I would like to hang for the tongue of those who promoted Armature.
    Remember, about the super duper tank, only that pregnant women are not trinders.
    Glasnost is of course a good thing, but RESPONSIBILITY FOR words is NEEDED. !!
  21. iouris
    iouris April 20 2020 11: 53 New
    -2
    As far as can be understood, the main task of Manturov is to ensure accession and membership in the WTO, i.e. implementation of the program "integration of the Russian Federation into the world economy". What have tanks got to do with it?
    Help from Duropedia.
    February 2, 2012 Prime Minister Putin was appointed Acting Minister of Industry and Trade of the Russian Federation. May 21, 2012 approved as Minister.
    The Russian Federation "entered" the WTO on 22.08.2012, Honduras - 01.01.1995, Georgia - 14.06.2000.
    1. good
      good April 20 2020 21: 29 New
      -1
      You can also join the WTO on different conditions, some did not bathe about the conditions and then stuck :))
      Russia was not in a hurry and did the right thing; more exceptions were received than some rushing hacks.
      1. iouris
        iouris April 20 2020 21: 40 New
        -1
        Quote: d0bry
        Russia was not in a hurry

        You just don't know. We were in a hurry. We were in a hurry. Even the RF Law "On Consumer Rights"
        (February 7, 1992 No. 2300-I) was adopted before the constitution. Fulfilled all the requirements of the WTO, while they were kept outside the door. They were adopted only when all state (mandatory) standards of the USSR were canceled. They were replaced by "technical regulations" in which only (!) "Safety requirements" are spelled out. It took 20 years to abolish the entire set of mandatory standards. GOST-R series standards are not state (mandatory).
        "... the enemy enters the city, not sparing the prisoners, because there was no nail in the smithy (made according to GOST USSR)"
        1. good
          good April 20 2020 21: 53 New
          -1
          I'm talking about the exceptions that the country has, and the standards have to be changed in any case if you are going to trade with the rest on an equal footing.
          1. iouris
            iouris April 20 2020 23: 36 New
            +1
            Quote: d0bry
            and you have to change the standards in any case if you are going to trade with the rest on an equal footing.

            I do not even know what to say. Are you going to trade? Than?
            GOST USSR reflect the achieved technological level. First of all, in the defense sector.
            The abolition of the USSR GOST was made in order to sell natural resources: oil and gas, and to bring any rubbish, for example, Royal alcohol, into the country without any problems. However, the less you know - you sleep better. Sleep well.
            1. good
              good April 21 2020 00: 19 New
              0
              By airplanes, helicopters, automobiles, semi-finished meat products, dairy products, grain, fertilizers, coal and anything else, rocket engines
              Alcohol in the country is full of its long
              At the same time, there is always the opportunity to introduce an embargo on imports with exceptions.

              The guests of the USSR are good in something, but there is no such country for a long time and the satellites have all fled for a long time, but life goes on and you need to somehow live in the real world
            2. mmaxx
              mmaxx April 22 2020 16: 16 New
              0
              ALL enterprises producing military products work according to the requirements of GOST-RV. Such a customer requirement. There is a requirement - it is being implemented.
              And GOSTs in the technical part in the USSR were most often copied from the Germans. Do not like? Argue. Just read. There is usually a reference, which corresponds to such a DIN or ISO. Moreover, they were written much later than European ones. Such is the level of the USSR. Now, however, worse.
              And no one canceled the standards of the USSR. No need to compose. Standards are replaced when they become obsolete. They just need to be reviewed from time to time. And everyone does it. I will not say that this is always successful.
        2. mmaxx
          mmaxx April 21 2020 04: 35 New
          -2
          Stop whining in terms of GOSTs. Nothing bad happened. Do you want to work in accordance with GOSTs. No one bothers. Poke GOST wherever you go without reading anything.
          1. mmaxx
            mmaxx April 22 2020 16: 08 New
            0
            ABOUT! Zaminusuyut! Somehow, developed countries live without mandatory standards, like the law, and no one has disappeared. At some stage (under Stalin), standards must be law. Then, they already become a brake and a burden. We need rationality in everything. Nobody will make bolts not according to standards. But to do the computer by standards ... the USSR did. Result?
            The trouble with the minusers is that no one has read these standards. Only the magic of the word sounds. GOST !!! Here according to GOST !!! It is the highest quality !!! And no one thinks that no GOST defines technology. And if the sausage or there, canned food, according to GOST, this does not mean that it is good. And vice versa. No engineer will abandon the standard if it is needed. But if something needs to be disregarded, then you need to do so. With changes in technical regulation at the plants, NOTHING has changed.
  22. Prisoner
    Prisoner April 20 2020 11: 55 New
    -2
    Market laws and advertising have not yet been repealed. Intriguing people, trying to spur potential buyers, the price hits. Why did the warriors rise high, or did they forget that we are living under capitalism?
  23. really
    really April 20 2020 12: 37 New
    0
    Quote: V.I.P.
    It's just that people of patriots are not one country, like some, but several

    laughing
  24. Vdi73
    Vdi73 April 20 2020 13: 03 New
    0
    Our army still didn’t get a car, and grabbers are already digging the earth with hooves to whom they could quickly sell the 14th. I do not approve of the sale of the latest weapons to everyone who is not lazy, with all due respect to China, but he always copies his weapons when acquiring weapons.
    1. Vadim237
      Vadim237 April 20 2020 13: 53 New
      -2
      Everything that we sell from weapons has been trimmed down in its capabilities.
  25. Mentat
    Mentat April 20 2020 14: 14 New
    -2
    Quote: knn54
    Chelyabinsk Tractor Plant (engine developer) recently reported;
    “As a result, it became obvious that the serial production of the developed engine due to its flaws and technically unattainable parameters is impractical.”
    WHAT diesel installed?

    If you quote some text, implying a direct quote, cite the source, if you can’t, don’t rinse your readers with disinformation.

    The engine of the first stage is installed on Armata, the engine of the second stage is being finalized, taking into account all the discovered shortcomings and the wishes of the Moscow Region.
  26. mister-red
    mister-red April 20 2020 22: 44 New
    +2
    It is not clear why some were so excited by the information about certain potential buyers of Almaty. Who cares if someone buys it or not. Nobody buys Merkava, but many consider it the best tank in the world. Oh yes, it is specific and designed for war in the Middle East. That's what you call it - the best tank for the region.
    Nobody bought the same Soviet T-10. Because they did not sell.
    In general, it’s ridiculous to read something from the great experts, who were not only in this tank, but who didn’t see it live either.
    1. wisealtair
      wisealtair April 22 2020 05: 29 New
      -1
      Merkava is specific because can fight only in Israel or nearby, be ruled by Jews and achieve only Jewish goals!
      1. mister-red
        mister-red 8 May 2020 17: 14 New
        0
        Funny but true
  27. Charik
    Charik April 21 2020 04: 08 New
    -1
    Well, if the Chinese do not scratch, then maybe they will buy
  28. tank64rus
    tank64rus April 21 2020 10: 40 New
    0
    Only after securing our own army. Enough with us is one Indian contract for t-90 at EBN, which did not give a damn.
  29. Vanya Tikhiy
    Vanya Tikhiy April 21 2020 12: 11 New
    0
    Exactly! And these phony buyers are all trying with one snout for the jackals from the louse hole! Let them invent themselves with their stupid head, they have invented the "Abrams", so let them ride on this scrap metal. Well, they can NOT shit themselves, or they steal or "buy" for 30 Judas silversmiths.
  30. Vyacheslav Osyagin
    Vyacheslav Osyagin April 21 2020 18: 25 New
    0
    In the Soviet Union there was the concept of military secret. To date, all the best weapons are advertised and subsequently resold. Everyone knows how the Chinese know how to copy military equipment, after which they can do it in their own country for their army. But as you know from love to hate, just one step and the fact that former friends can become enemies is not ruled out. There are many such facts in the history of Russia.
    1. wisealtair
      wisealtair April 22 2020 05: 27 New
      0
      In the USSR, the concepts of "market economy", "PR" and "business" did not exist. If you don't know how to promote your products, you won't sell anything.
  31. wisealtair
    wisealtair April 22 2020 05: 26 New
    0
    Probably from those who saw his trials in Syria)