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Russia has promised to fight back in the event of an attack on a base in Tartus

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Not a single attempt at an armed attack on the logistics center (ETHC) of the Russian Navy in the Syrian port of Tartus will be left unanswered, assured the General Staff of the Russian Armed Forces on Friday.

“If the Syrian armed opposition decides to realize its threats against a possible attack on the PTTO, the Russian Navy now has all the opportunities in the region to respond adequately. We would not advise “hot heads” from the Syrian opposition to do this, ”said the Interfax interlocutor.

According to him, “the Syrian side has also taken appropriate measures to strengthen the protection and defense of the PTTO.”

Vice-Admiral Viktor Chirkov, commander-in-chief of the Russian Navy, said on the eve that there are currently ten Russian warships in the Mediterranean, including five large landing ships and ten support vessels.

“Ships in the Mediterranean Sea perform the tasks of planned combat training. These tasks are planned in 2011. On the large landing ships there are marine units with standard armament, ”said V. Chirkov.

As the newspaper VIEW reported, Russia can re-open its naval bases in Cuba and in Vietnam.

On Friday, the commander-in-chief of the Navy, Vice-Admiral Viktor Chirkov, said that Russia was working on the issue of securing the deployment of naval forces outside the Russian Federation. As part of this work at the international level, the establishment of logistics facilities in Cuba, Seychelles and Vietnam is being worked out.

Earlier, the Soviet Navy had bases in Vietnam (Cam Ranh) and Syria (Tartus). Now there is only a base in Tartus.

In turn, Vietnamese President Truong Tan Shang said that the Vietnamese authorities could offer Russia to create a logistics support point (PMEC) in the port of Cam Ranh, but no foreign country can deploy its military bases in the country.
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  1. dreamer
    dreamer 28 July 2012 13: 06
    +55
    Yesterday I rejoiced at this news, especially since the Syrians are also guarding there. And Russia still has a good opportunity to use the amerskiy experience: "enemies" shot at the base, made holes in a couple of hangars immediately, landing troops and cleaning up any area (spies must say this is the work of a detachment ... ice, which is based there). wink Best practices to be adopted laughing
    1. KGB161rus
      KGB161rus 28 July 2012 14: 11
      +33
      Seychelles









      I would not mind serving on such islands tongue
      1. gispanec
        gispanec 28 July 2012 14: 29
        +12
        I'm even more ready ....... for half the salary ...... awesome islands ......
        1. Charon
          Charon 28 July 2012 18: 18
          +6
          And to pay extra?
      2. Vito
        Vito 28 July 2012 15: 14
        +5
        KGB161rusGood day to you!
        It would not be bad to take this paradise under your jurisdiction!
        The view is just a fairy tale!
      3. Teploteh - nick
        Teploteh - nick 28 July 2012 19: 40
        +18
        Russia may reopen its naval bases in Cuba and Vietnam.
        This is the thing !!! good
        And these rebels, moreover, that in the event of an attack - ****** to give them, so it is necessary without any attacks - to help Syria in every possible way to crush and wet this Orange infection !!! By the way - the capital was completely recaptured, now these ****** are crushed and urinated further. am Life seems to be getting better !!! drinks
        Syria is OUR - and not a single **** can capture it !!! am
        Glory to Russia!!! drinks and its allies in the fight against Amer fascism !!!
        1. Simon
          Simon 28 July 2012 22: 53
          +6
          Political assistance from Russia also played well in favor of Syria. yes
        2. FiremanRS
          FiremanRS 29 July 2012 10: 43
          +2
          In fact, although this is bad, but I still want the rebels to attack the base. Then Russia’s hands will be untied and, under a very plausible pretext, our marines will raze all their bases to the ground. And if there are prisoners, then I am sure that there will be instructors from Turkey, the USA and other democrats in their midst. Then the UN Security Council will be able to raise issues. China is certainly a hook for this and will support Russia. Plus, the captured weapons will immediately show its manufacturer and this is not about machine guns, but about heavy weapons. In general: if, then .... then solid bonuses ....
      4. Midshipman
        Midshipman 28 July 2012 22: 20
        +18
        There is no place better than central Russia
        1. Krasnodar
          Krasnodar 2 August 2012 00: 55
          +1
          There is a better place! This is the Krasnodar Territory! Here there are almost all landscapes - from semi-deserts and Mediterranean forests on the Black Sea, to the usual central Russian forest and steppe and to high mountains with alpine meadows, glaciers and other mountain beauty! fellow
        2. Alsa74
          Alsa74 2 August 2012 15: 00
          0
          for me it’s no better than the Urals! tongue
      5. phantom359
        phantom359 29 July 2012 21: 27
        0
        KGB161rusYes, a good place for both service and relaxation.
    2. dreamer
      dreamer 28 July 2012 15: 28
      +41
      Another good news
      Russia does not intend to comply with EU decisions against Syria to agree to search for ships flying the Russian flag, said spokesman for the Russian Foreign Ministry Alexander Lukashevich.

      «We do not intend to take any part in the activities pursuant to EU decisions against Syriain particular, we will not consider appeals and consent to the inspection of ships flying the Russian flag, as well as to the application of other restrictive measures to them, ”Lukashenko said, RIA Novosti reports.

      Lukashevich also noted that Russia believes that the implementation of EU sanctions against Syria violates the sovereignty of this country and the prerogatives of the UN Security Council in maintaining international peace.
      1. Vito
        Vito 28 July 2012 15: 51
        +5
        Quote: dreamer
        Another good news

        This is encouraging!
      2. koosss
        koosss 28 July 2012 16: 22
        +2
        Quote: dreamer
        Foreign Ministry Spokesman Alexander Lukashevich

        Quote: dreamer
        other restrictive measures, ”said Lukashenko
        1. dreamer
          dreamer 28 July 2012 16: 25
          +8
          koosss, a quote from "Vzglyad" they always save on editors and proofreaders, he himself did not correct, although Lukashenka noticed. I found such a typo "pretty" laughing The main thing is that they are not amenable, but there are OPISKS for everyone drinks
      3. Centaurus
        Centaurus 28 July 2012 18: 37
        +5
        "We do not intend to take any part in activities to implement EU decisions against Syria ..."

        What did they say so? fellow
    3. Pimply
      Pimply 28 July 2012 15: 47
      +3
      So, as it were already. The war of three eights.
    4. dreamer
      dreamer 28 July 2012 20: 06
      +7
      Warships of two fleets of Russia continued exercises in the Mediterranean Sea

      28 July 2012, 19: 33

      The United Navy inter-naval group, after replenishment, began to carry out tasks in the central part of the Mediterranean Sea, the press service and information department of the Ministry of Defense said on Saturday.

      «The combined inter-naval grouping of the Russian Navy as part of the Northern Fleet warships: the large landing ships Alexander Otrakovsky, George the Victorious, Kondopoga, and the Baltic Fleet warships: the patrol ships Yaroslav the Wise and Undaunted, after replenishment reserves in the Alboran Sea have embarked on long-range trekking tasks in the central Mediterranean", - said in a statement, reports RIA" Novosti ".

      The ministry noted that technical means and armament of ships are operating normally. The ships fulfill a number of training tasks on air defense duty and anti-submarine defense in the near zone along the warrant route. Crews celebrate the day of the Navy at sea, without compromising combat readiness.

      According to media reports, the ships during the exercises can go to the base in the Syrian port of Tartus. Earlier, representatives of the opposition Syrian National Council (SNA) expressed concern about sending a group of Russian Navy ships to the Syrian coast.
    5. Artem Airborne
      Artem Airborne 28 July 2012 20: 23
      +2
      the American and their DEMONcrats in Syria would not have used our statement for provocation ...
      1. Mervik
        Mervik 28 July 2012 21: 23
        +10
        so we should not be afraid of provocation, but they should be afraid to provoke us!
        1. pribolt
          pribolt 28 July 2012 23: 12
          +19
          In Spain, during a traditional bull race, an incident occurred - three Russians shouting "For the Airborne Forces" turned the herd back.
          1. Raven1972
            Raven1972 31 July 2012 19: 31
            0
            5 +++++++ Smiled not childishly ... laughing
      2. Ziksura
        Ziksura 28 July 2012 22: 09
        +4
        Quote: Artem VVD
        the American and their DEMONcrats in Syria would not have used our statement for provocation ...

        Provocations? Hmm !!! In their place, I would be afraid of a single shot organized by us ourselves in our direction. Good point, by the way. Or today I have such a mood. Hands and reach for the machine gun ......
        1. REPA1963
          REPA1963 28 July 2012 23: 09
          +9
          You are cool, however ... sit behind the clave ..
      3. FiremanRS
        FiremanRS 29 July 2012 10: 47
        0
        And what exactly is this? We have exercises on the high seas, there is our MTO base and replenish stocks and repair current .... What are such problems?
        1. Russian-
          Russian- 29 July 2012 11: 48
          +2
          It's time to stop warning and start giving!
          1. Irkit
            Irkit 29 July 2012 13: 58
            0
            And here is for inner peace :)
            http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q-wA3Tp8l4s&feature=g-all-u
    6. Abramovich
      Abramovich 29 July 2012 02: 16
      -29
      Lord, what is this in the photo for the article? belay

      What kind of scrap metal collection point is this misery? Some pieces of iron stick out from everywhere, welded to see that the admiral, leaning out of the porthole, could hang the leggings. And the big blue tank - the Arabs have it on the roofs of the houses, collect the rain water. Well, at least cardboard layouts of the airplanes have been beautifully painted. Somali pirates on motor boats.

      Does this thing even float? And that is, there is a suspicion that the sailors were lined up against the background of an oil refinery. lol
      1. Vito
        Vito 29 July 2012 13: 04
        +8
        Forgive me, everyone present on the site and my respected colleagues, but there is a limit to my patience.
        Abramovich (4) GO ON ... and ride your 9th yacht and Berezovsky. do not forget to grab, it will be more fun to drown together!
      2. Cynic
        Cynic 29 July 2012 16: 28
        +3
        Quote: Abramovich
        what is this wretchedness?

        Black PR is more effective, faster brings big shoulder straps laughing
        The English have a proverb
        Do not throw stones while living in a glass house

        wink
        1. Vito
          Vito 29 July 2012 21: 01
          0
          Cynic (1), pribolt (1) Good evening YOU.
          Quote: Cynic
          Do not throw stones while living in a glass house

          Yes, if it were stones, in my opinion I got shit in my mouth and spits!


          Quote: pribolt
          - Call the rabbi!

          In my opinion this is so harmful to him, circumcision acts!
      3. pribolt
        pribolt 29 July 2012 17: 40
        +6
        To Abramovich
        Two Jews went to visit. They approach the door, and one knocks with his foot. Second:
        “Izzy, but why are you banging your foot?”
        - Let them think that our hands are occupied with gifts.

        Abramovich’s wife on her deathbed admits:
        “I can't take this secret with me to the grave.” Know: Isaac is not your son!
        - Nonsense! From whom can he be ?!
        - From our clerk Hirschfeld.
        - I do not believe any of your words! Such a handsome man as Hirschfeld, and such a lahudra like you ...
        “I paid him two thousand bucks.”
        “And where did you get so much money?”
        - From your cash register.
        - Well, that's what I say: Isaac is my son!
        1. pribolt
          pribolt 29 July 2012 18: 02
          +12
          joke
          The old Arab dies. Well, as it should, the last wish, and here the Arab declares:
          - Call the rabbi! I want to accept Judaism!
          Native:
          “What, how can you?” You fiercely hated the Jews, you have devoted your whole life to war with them!
          - Call and the point!
          They called. The rabbi did everything right. The last words of the Arab were:
          - Well, at least one more Jew has become less ...
      4. phantom359
        phantom359 29 July 2012 21: 25
        +4
        Abramovich,
        Well, sho are you so negative, dear? Why is there so much hostility towards the country in whose language you speak? For some reason, from your words, scrap metal, Americans are very afraid, in spite of their aircraft carriers. And yet, scraps explode in Americans, breaks down and burns no worse.
  2. you tested the restore function of your back
    -85
    Is this the Russian admiral warning part of the Syrian people about his territory? A very bold statement ... And when the Assad regime collapses, what will this very boss say?
    1. dreamer
      dreamer 28 July 2012 13: 11
      +43
      Quote: back
      This is the Russian admiral warns about part of the Syrian people about his territory

      Recall how amers shot at the Afghans who staged a demonstration after the burning of the Koran? Someone apologized?
      1. you tested the restore function of your back
        -60
        dreamer,
        recall the KILLING of the KGB in 1979 of the Afghan President and hundreds of military personnel who performed their duty to protect him? Who answered?
        1. dreamer
          dreamer 28 July 2012 13: 54
          +43
          Quote: back
          recall the KILLING of the KGB in 1979 of the Afghan President and hundreds of military personnel who performed their duty to protect him? Who answered?

          The assault on the palace was carried out in accordance with the plan of the operation, the active phase of the battle lasted about an hour, although the shooting did not stop for another day, some soldiers and officers of the infantry brigade did not want to surrender and fought their way into the mountains. Afghan losses amounted to about 200 people killed, including Amin and his son, about 1700 troops surrendered. Our losses amounted to 19 people, 5 from the KGB assault groups, 5 more were lost by paratroopers, 9 people lost the “Muslim battalion”. Almost all members of the assault groups were injured.

          You can only be proud of the specialists of the USSR !!! good
          The operation was carried out so successfully that it entered the training manuals of all the secret services of the world. One should be proud of such operations, you better remember how the amerovskaya "Delta" was killed when it tried to rescue its diplomats ,,, wink
          1. you tested the restore function of your back
            -51
            dreamer,
            I kind of write in Russian and write well, I repeat again: WHO ANSWERED for the destruction of the legitimate Afghan President and hundreds of troops in the 1979 year? So hopefully clear?
            1. dreamer
              dreamer 28 July 2012 14: 40
              +29
              Quote: back
              I kind of write in Russian and write well, I repeat again: WHO ANSWERED

              Winners are not judged! smile The fate of the answer goes to the vanquished winked Civilians were not injured in the destruction of Amin
              Amin’s regime was not popular, the position of the president was precarious, and a change of power in Afghanistan could lead to his loss from the Soviet sphere of influence. Moreover, it was assumed that Amine collaborates with the CIA and could get closer to Western countries, and, this was the most dangerous, Hafizullah could allow the deployment of NATO military bases on the territory of his country. The leadership of the USSR could not allow the appearance of troops of a potential enemy at its borders, therefore, on December 12, 1979, the Politburo of the CPSU Central Committee adopted a secret resolution "On the situation in Afghanistan." Its essence boiled down to the need to eliminate Hafizullah Amin, to replace Babrak Karmal in his place, and to stabilize the situation, send troops to Afghanistan.

              The USSR was not afraid to beat the lead, and the situation obliged
              1. you tested the restore function of your back
                -39
                dreamer,
                and who in Afghanistan then won, did the Afghan people? When will you be responsible for the killings of Afghans?
                Amin is the president of a SOVEREIGN state, what does the civilian population have to do with ???? And what about the relatives of the murdered from you?
                1. dreamer
                  dreamer 28 July 2012 15: 17
                  +19
                  Quote: back
                  and who in Afghanistan then won, did the Afghan people?

                  After Amin was killed, amers began to train militants in Pakistan and actively arm them, including such weapons as Stinger MANPADS (new and secret). Now amers with the Taliban cannot cope with which Russia does not sponsor, teach and do not arm. Draw your own conclusions.
                2. ytqnhfk
                  ytqnhfk 28 July 2012 16: 27
                  +19
                  shut your mouth nemchur not you yapping with your crusades and everything else in history, I'm not talking about recent wars !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
                  1. Kaa
                    Kaa 28 July 2012 18: 17
                    +20
                    Quote: ytqnhfk
                    shut the mouth of nemchur

                    Yes, he’s not nonsense, for 3 hours already under the third flag is celebrated, for example, a troll vulgaris.
                    .
                    1. fktrctqxbr
                      fktrctqxbr 29 July 2012 12: 47
                      0
                      You better tell me the difference between a military base and a support base. I personally don’t see any difference whatsoever, but perhaps in the legal aspects of the military cooperation treaties.
                  2. Simon
                    Simon 28 July 2012 23: 07
                    +3
                    Right..! Our soldiers in Agan did not shoot peaceful weddings like amers. yes
                    1. Crumbumbes
                      Crumbumbes 29 July 2012 06: 02
                      +3
                      Simon,
                      because their government is cynical and I will fucking do it!
                      the ancestors of amers are the scum of European society of that time! what else to expect from their foul offspring!
                      complete moral corruption called democracy and freedom of speech, just a second garden and gamora.
                    2. Russian-
                      Russian- 29 July 2012 11: 51
                      +9
                      Quote: Simon
                      Our soldiers in Agan did not shoot peaceful weddings like amers

                      Because our soldiers are first of all People. And their mercenaries are killers.
                  3. speedy
                    speedy 29 July 2012 13: 33
                    +1
                    Israeli citizens usually fly under the German flag, and there is a corresponding picture.
                  4. Cynic
                    Cynic 6 August 2012 16: 06
                    0
                    Quote: ytqnhfk
                    shut up the mouth of a little ...

                    Calm down please, at the kosher mister Abramovichbut just a German provider.
                    wink
                3. Evil Tatar
                  Evil Tatar 28 July 2012 17: 04
                  +19
                  Quote: back
                  And what about the relatives of the murdered from you?


                  Yes, give them greetings from the valiant "shuravi"!
                  ......... although not ... There are already no relatives, all of them your accomplices Americans whom they killed, whom they pissed ...

                  Ok so be impatient you tested the restore function of your back, not too long left, say hello to them later, in person, in the next world.
                4. Dimitr
                  Dimitr 28 July 2012 17: 14
                  +39
                  Quote: back
                  When will you be responsible for the killings of Afghans?

                  And when will NATO "philanthropists" and "defenders of democracy" be responsible for Afghans, Iraqis, Iranians, Syrians, Libyans, Vietnamese, Japanese ...?
                5. Alexander Petrovich
                  Alexander Petrovich 28 July 2012 17: 20
                  +21
                  And who will be responsible for the deaths of thousands of Vietnamese and Koreans, Iraqis and Libyans, Serbs and again Afghans? And this is only part of the victims of the American Holocaust. Moreover, I have listed the Amer’s campaign for the second half of the 20th century and the beginning of the 21st. Compare who waged more wars during this time. and you know who the true villain is. And I’m used to comparing affordability and language.
                  1. Simon
                    Simon 28 July 2012 23: 13
                    +4
                    Yes, of course, no one will answer, the amers decided that they have the right to control the fate of the people, hated countries. yes
                  2. Recon
                    Recon 29 July 2012 09: 53
                    +3
                    As well as millions of Indians - the indigenous population of North America.
                6. Artem Airborne
                  Artem Airborne 28 July 2012 20: 36
                  0
                  Whose will you be?
                7. Mervik
                  Mervik 28 July 2012 21: 28
                  +1
                  But what Amerovsky flag changed to German?
                  1. DNA
                    DNA 28 July 2012 22: 32
                    0
                    Yes, the henchman of the West, the media of the West have read. laughing
                8. Ziksura
                  Ziksura 28 July 2012 22: 19
                  +2
                  Quote: back
                  And what about the relatives of the murdered from you?

                  Are you okay with adequacy ????? Do you want to convey something to my grandson of a disabled person of the Great Patriotic War of the first group ???? From the German population ?????? I assure you: Hitler did not personally shoot him. True true....
                9. shifervals
                  shifervals 29 July 2012 00: 52
                  +2
                  We can say that the Afghan people won. It is enough to see what kind of construction was carried out in Afghanistan with the help and at the expense of the Soviet Union, to look for laziness yourself, but they know Google and Yandex. And our troops there met the vast majority of the population as liberators
                10. Crumbumbes
                  Crumbumbes 29 July 2012 05: 51
                  +1
                  you tested the restore function of your back,
                  and what to convey from your loving western regime to the relatives of those killed in Syria !?
              2. System32
                System32 29 July 2012 00: 15
                -19
                Ha, why did you then swell up on us, if you yourself are not afraid to bomb another country, such as in the name of truth and justice and in Syria, you will fight not with supposedly militants, but with the opposition that the people support, which means will you fight with the people and the fact that the Assad regime will fall is only a matter of time, what will you do then, by force to keep your turtus?
                1. survivor
                  survivor 29 July 2012 01: 17
                  +3
                  who would say? let's not remember what they are doing with the GREAT AMERICAN ARMY in the occupied countries ... they cut like sheep !!! any genocide against the people, in any country, will end in the same.
                  1. System32
                    System32 29 July 2012 01: 49
                    -14
                    I see you can't wait to be like us (it's not for nothing that you just remember us, Americans are, Americans are) show yourself as men at least once, otherwise as soon as you remember your grandfathers and World War II, and then, Afghan -your, lost, the first Chechen lost, the second, too, as I see, they did not even win, and even if you take Georgia, their army did not even resist, everyone left, knowing that you would hurry up - hurry and get out of there, but you present it as a great victory, well, yes, one must somehow raise the spirit of the nation and get up from its knees. For that, oh, what fellows themselves, they haven’t been in a real mess yet, but they’ve gone wild, like roosters on a roost, you can only see “yes we are” “yes we are”, it will probably even be better if there you enter into a real battle with Syrian opposition, let's see what you will be good for (not, well, not you, of course, you are whistling in vain here, you are unlikely to do anything else) Let's look at your vaunted army.
                    1. shifervals
                      shifervals 29 July 2012 02: 32
                      +4
                      System32, Let's look at your vaunted army

                      I know what a Russian soldier is capable of. God forbid, of course, but I do not envy the Syrian opposition.

                      ... yes, even if you take Georgia, their army did not even resist, everyone left ...

                      Well, they did not leave, but skidded, this is to restore historical justice. And if our iPhone president had not given the command "stop", then in Tbilisi they would have poked fun at the 7 ... 8 day of the war
                      1. System32
                        System32 29 July 2012 14: 25
                        -11
                        In this case, for the sake of historical justice, it’s worth remembering how the Russian army was draping all the way to Moscow in the first years of the Second World War, and dumbing from an army that outnumbered both manpower and equipment, and surrendered in the thousands, tens of thousands I remember the photos of the colonies of prisoners guarded by a dozen Germans with machine guns and dogs. laughing
                      2. survivor
                        survivor 29 July 2012 17: 01
                        +5
                        however, draping, as you put it, at 41, before draping at 45 to Berlin !!! The Americans did not drape, but they did not go forward either. Normandy alone is worth ....
                      3. LENINGRADE
                        LENINGRADE 29 July 2012 17: 25
                        0
                        photo from the family archive - good waldemar, good !!
                      4. pribolt
                        pribolt 29 July 2012 22: 26
                        -1
                        Quote: System32
                        In this case, for the sake of the same historical justice, it’s worth remembering how I was draping up to Moscow itself

                        In that case, we need to remember Pearl Harbor good and how you crap one's pants there good
                      5. shifervals
                        shifervals 30 July 2012 09: 29
                        0
                        There is such an interesting book "1941 through the eyes of the Germans. Birch crosses instead of iron" Author Robert Kershaw, please note that he is not Russian. I recommend reading, I guarantee the template break
                      6. stroporez
                        stroporez 6 August 2012 09: 03
                        0
                        Quote: System32
                        for the sake of historical justice,
                        it should be remembered that mass shootings and other genocide were invented by your "Stars and Stripes" Caudla, and even brought to life .........
                      7. stroporez
                        stroporez 9 August 2012 10: 17
                        0
                        Well this is what a smart guy minus me))) ????????? mass destruction, and in the most non-human ways, the Indians continued until the mid-end of the 20th century. and now it continues .................... let them now allegedly "citizens of the UWB" - but ............... ..they are still being destroyed.
                      8. Beck
                        Beck 9 August 2012 11: 54
                        -2
                        Stop cutter.
                        I agree the Indians destroyed. Just like England, Belgium and other colonial countries in their colonies. So, in order to somehow resolve this issue, the US government began to conclude reservation agreements with the leaders of the Indians. The Indians abandon their lands and live on reserves, and the US government provides them with everything necessary. Medical care, free schooling, clothing, food other than alcohol.
                        And now the Indians live on these lands without doing anything. Do not plow, do not sow, do not reap. Well, if some Indian wants to live elsewhere, the road is open. But then provide yourself with food, clothing, and all the others yourself. That is, Pasha.
                    2. LENINGRADE
                      LENINGRADE 29 July 2012 17: 22
                      +1
                      like you? Well, no, just as you have long understood that America is not expecting anything good (well, let’s break the work) and are looking for consolation in insulting their historical homeland! Well, there’s nothing surprising - your grandfathers WWII went with white bandages on the sleeves !!!
                    3. pribolt
                      pribolt 29 July 2012 22: 22
                      0
                      Damn, I can’t believe it, again you changed your nickname from back to System32 here and buzz again, you need diclofos as a bothersome fly yes
                    4. fktrctqxbr
                      fktrctqxbr 2 August 2012 21: 30
                      -1
                      Very interesting statement. But as you know now, the politics of Russian politicians goes in a different direction. And for challenges and confrontation, they either ignore or do so that it is not always convenient for US policy. What to do world capitalism of the 21st century. As you say, Americans are business and nothing personal. wink
                    5. stroporez
                      stroporez 6 August 2012 08: 59
                      0
                      Duc in amerski "to show himself as a man" - it means to kill children, to mock at prisoners, to take pictures with corpses ....... I'm afraid we won't succeed ---- very disgusting .......... ...
                    6. Cynic
                      Cynic 6 August 2012 16: 14
                      -1
                      Quote: System32
                      but as soon as you immediately remember your grandfathers and the Second World War

                      Call the war won by the USA, please. It is very interesting to know from an expert.
                      request
                2. Cynic
                  Cynic 6 August 2012 16: 10
                  -1
                  Quote: System32
                  Ha, why are you swelling up here then ...

                  Well done, the right way you go, Mr. Good!
                  Soon very soon again try on epaulettes with skulls!
                  Mr. Abramovich a vivid example of this.
                  bully
            2. Rodriques
              Rodriques 28 July 2012 14: 41
              +6
              Are you really stupid? Amin worked closely with the CIA and prepared provocations and militants against the USSR, prepared the flow of drug trafficking. We did everything right and there’s nothing to apologize for !!! angry
            3. 1tankist
              1tankist 28 July 2012 14: 47
              +12
              Quote: back
              I kind of write in Russian and write well, I repeat again: WHO ANSWERED for the destruction of the legitimate Afghan President and hundreds of troops in the 1979 year? So hopefully clear?


              An American who was responsible for the destruction of thousands of Iraqis, Afghans, Lebanese Yugoslavs ... for the destruction of the legitimate leaders of these and other states. American, you are going to destroy the legitimately elected president of Syria, you are going to attack Iran, which dared to pursue its own policy. Are you going to be responsible for this?
              1. you tested the restore function of your back
                -45
                1tankist,
                if you do not understand the context, then these are your problems!
                My main message is this: before criticizing the United States in Afghanistan, answer to the whole world for YOUR BUSINESS in this country of much earlier described events! So, hope, okay? Start with yourself
                1. Yura
                  Yura 28 July 2012 16: 53
                  +25
                  back, My main message is this: before criticizing the United States in Afghanistan, answer to the whole world for YOUR BUSINESS in this country ............... What are you from the United States that so much for you’re killing them, ask them first for millions of Vietnamese, for tens of thousands of Chileans, Nicaraguans, Yugoslavs, Russian people killed in civilian clothes, Cubans, Koreans, the Panamanian president came and kidnapped and did not ask anyone, for Patrice Lumumba, for eight hundred attempts on Fidel Castro , finally ask them for the Afghans, you’ll get tired of enumerating what they have done and realizing what they are capable of, you generally wonder how the whole world endures it. And who are you to ask the answer about what you don’t know, and who are you to ask for the whole world, ask yourself, people like you always have something to ask for.
                  1. Alexander Petrovich
                    Alexander Petrovich 28 July 2012 17: 21
                    +6
                    To the point, I just wrote about this above, it coincided))
                    1. Yura
                      Yura 28 July 2012 18: 18
                      +10
                      Quote: Alexander Petrovich
                      To the point, I just wrote about this above, it coincided))

                      My friends, when I stumbled upon his first comment, I became a little furious and without reading anyone looked further on his opuses and although I didn’t want to answer this provocateur, I couldn’t resist writing, then I went over this nickname again and missed, then I wanted to invite him to visit, but first warning that we live here in the forest and wild animals are our food as well as hats and fur coats, then thinking that he is not suitable for all this, how not suitable for fertilizers, because everything that grows on it will be poisonous, and after reading your post calmed down , sorry for not intentional "plagiarism" which I think reflects that you have a lot of like-minded people. Consider my post your support, I am with you as well as with all those who think the same way.
                      1. Alexander Petrovich
                        Alexander Petrovich 28 July 2012 18: 46
                        +4
                        Don’t apologize to you! I have to apologize, I wrote later)) Then, while reading the comments I came across yours)) Therefore, I look more like a plagiarist than you)) So, that's me with you. Honestly to such provocateurs. often too lazy to answer, seriously, but today, for something aggravation, they have to fight back, and of course, to prove that the liberal point of view is false. So sorry again. Greetings from Moldova, we have many like-minded people here. Yes here. they are pushing us as they can, since we have very little financial support.
                      2. Yura
                        Yura 28 July 2012 19: 00
                        +3
                        Quote: Alexander Petrovich
                        Don’t apologize to you!

                        Accepted. Thank.
                2. Armata
                  Armata 28 July 2012 17: 36
                  +8
                  Are the Yankees ready to answer to the world for their affairs? If so, then let's face it, who is evil in the world here. Demagogue you and you can’t fix it. So blocked the entrance to the oral cavity.
                  1. Alexander Romanov
                    Alexander Romanov 28 July 2012 17: 38
                    +8
                    Quote: Steam Train
                    ? If so, then let's face it, who is evil in the world here

                    Hi Zhenya, he does not answer questions, he asks them, sometimes asks for facts, and when the facts lead, he goes to another comment. Troll, just troll request
                  2. Yasen Ping
                    Yasen Ping 28 July 2012 19: 04
                    +2
                    Not the oral cavity, but the oral opening)
                    1. Russian-
                      Russian- 29 July 2012 11: 53
                      +1
                      Quote: Yasen Pin
                      Not the oral cavity, but the oral opening

                      It must be remembered! I haven’t heard this before! Class!
                  3. Mervik
                    Mervik 28 July 2012 22: 06
                    -1
                    I propose in general, now, right now, to shandarahnat with all the salvos, all the weapons, all the arsenal in the United States. Directly so, according to the kumpol, not expected !!! And I’m sure our missile defense system will cope with their prudent weapon! I'm even sure that the amers instantly capitulate.
                    Here is my plan. I suggest that all of Russia, all residents, dump for a couple of months with their entire salary on the instant build-up of missile defense and nuclear arsenal. Personally, I will be the first! And for the sake of this, I’m ready for the consequences of such an attack !!! I wonder how many people will support this idea ... They just got these pesky amers, they don’t have everything !!!
                    1. REPA1963
                      REPA1963 28 July 2012 23: 15
                      +3
                      Probably you play tanks for days?
                      1. Mervik
                        Mervik 29 July 2012 00: 08
                        -1
                        tired of the tanks, returned to Tetris
                      2. Russian-
                        Russian- 29 July 2012 11: 53
                        +3
                        Quote: Mervik
                        tired of the tanks

                        Tanks - THING!
                    2. survivor
                      survivor 29 July 2012 01: 23
                      +3
                      ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ necessary, ready to work for a year for free, on a baland and a piece of bread !!! not for Putin or Medvedev, not for oligarchs and bureaucrats, but for their homeland, for their loved ones, for mothers and children, for all those who live in this great country !!!
                3. ronin
                  ronin 28 July 2012 20: 27
                  0
                  We answered long ago ... and we no longer impose our values ​​on everyone ...
                4. Mervik
                  Mervik 28 July 2012 21: 38
                  +2
                  to back
                  yes you look cool! Reply to whom? In front of the whole world? My elephant in your eyeglasses will answer. YOU ARE A LINK, like all amers. Just bow to Russia, grab it on the cumpole right away! You missed your chance, there is no longer any hunchbacked or drunk EBN. You, covet Amerovsky will answer for the collapse of our country !!! PPC, the mongrel decided to ask from the elephant!
                  1. Russian-
                    Russian- 29 July 2012 17: 32
                    +2
                    Quote: Mervik
                    Just bow to Russia, immediately grab the cumpole

                    one hundred%. Yes, so - that for the rest of your life remember, or rather, for all the remaining 100 minutes.
                5. DNA
                  DNA 28 July 2012 22: 35
                  +3
                  Yes, what did you fix answer answer, there was a cold war. And who used nuclear weapons in cities of Japan with a civilian population.
                  1. Beck
                    Beck 6 August 2012 16: 34
                    -3
                    BOTTOM.
                    Before dropping atomic bombs, the General Staff of the United States Army Army Army calculated that the invasion of the Japanese islands would drag on for 1 -! 5 years. The losses of the American army amount to about 1 million people, the losses of the Japanese make up to 3 million people. These calculations were reported to the President of the United States. After analysis, a decision was made on the atomic bombing. The immediate losses of 150 thousand were undoubtedly less than 4 million. If the atomic bomb were not used, then in the subsequent president a reasonable question would be asked. Why, having technical capabilities to end the war, within a week he continued it for 1,5 years and laid down 4 million lives.

                    Imagine that your son is in the first echelons of the landing of troops.
                    1. lewerlin53rus
                      lewerlin53rus 6 August 2012 17: 20
                      +1
                      Quote: Beck
                      The immediate losses of 150 thousand were undoubtedly less than 4 million.

                      Nichrome yourself, humanities !. You are ready to justify all the bloody crimes of the US fascist regime with your pseudo humanism.
                      1. Beck
                        Beck 6 August 2012 19: 32
                        -2
                        Leverin.
                        Fascist regimes were only in Italy and Germany, and the criminal fascist regime only in Germany. I cited one of the fundamental strategies of the entire military world, including the USSR and Russia. All General Staffs of the world plan battles and victories in them with as little losses as possible. Indirectly, killing 150 thousand saved the lives of 3 million Japanese who would have been killed as a result of the conquest of the islands. Japan at that moment declared that it would resist until the last soldier. And everyone knows their fanaticism.
                        And you’re all shit and shit. So like that, no shit, and lost 20 million in the war against fascism.
                6. survivor
                  survivor 29 July 2012 01: 18
                  +2
                  Well, my friend, then let’s start from Germany .... she has something to obey ........
              2. Dimitr
                Dimitr 28 July 2012 17: 16
                0
                Quote: 1tankist
                An American who was responsible for the destruction of thousands of Iraqis, Afghans, Lebanese Yugoslavs ... for the destruction of the legitimate leaders of these and other states. American, you are going to destroy the legitimately elected president of Syria, you are going to attack Iran, which dared to pursue its own policy. Are you going to be responsible for this?

                Hello, Alexander, I saw your comment late, wrote the same thing!

                Quote: 1tankist
                An American who was responsible for the destruction of thousands of Iraqis, Afghans, Lebanese Yugoslavs ... for the destruction of the legitimate leaders of these and other states. American, you are going to destroy the legitimately elected president of Syria, you are going to attack Iran, which dared to pursue its own policy. Are you going to be responsible for this?

                Hello, Alexander, I saw your comment late, wrote the same thing!
              3. scientist cat
                scientist cat 29 July 2012 11: 40
                +2
                1tankist,
                the legitimately elected president of Syria


                Everything is correct, except for your phrase about "the lawfully elected president of Syria."
                Bashar al-Assad was not the people elected in the election, but his father Hafiz Assad, the previous ruler of Syria, appointed.
            4. Vito
              Vito 28 July 2012 15: 05
              +11
              you tested the restore function of your back , Hello.
              Quote: back
              WHO ANSWERED for the destruction of the legitimate Afghan President and hundreds of troops in the 1979 year? So hopefully clear?

              Well, if you are such a connoisseur and admirer of Afghanistan, then you probably should know how and by whom the previous president of this country was removed! So the question is! How legitimate and legitimate the AMINA government was.
              If you are such an ardent champion of democracy!
            5. Oleg the Great
              Oleg the Great 28 July 2012 15: 56
              +9
              Quote: back
              WHO ANSWERED for the destruction of the legitimate Afghan President and hundreds of troops in the 1979 year? So hopefully clear?


              It was he who was responsible for the murder of the legitimate President Taraki.
            6. sergeant1973
              sergeant1973 28 July 2012 17: 58
              +10
              Listen, how many amers were responsible for Hiroshima Nagasaki Vietnam Grenada Iraq is now for the Afghan ??????????? !!!!!!!!!!!!!!
              1. Russian-
                Russian- 29 July 2012 17: 33
                +3
                Quote: sergeant1973
                how many amers were responsible for Hiroshima Nagasaki Vietnam Grenada Iraq is now for Afghanistan

                Iraq, Syria, Egypt.
            7. sichevik
              sichevik 28 July 2012 19: 15
              +9
              you tested the restore function of your back,
              And who was responsible for the murders of the legitimate Presidents of sovereign countries ------- Slobodan Miloshovich, Saddam Hussein, Muammar Gaddafi, Noriega? Continue the list or not? Who is responsible for the bombing of peaceful Vietnamese villages, For the destroyed and destroyed Granada, for Yugoslavia, for Iraq, for Libya? Now give you Syria, Iran ... Then whom? Do not get drunk. Nothing soon the time will come and you will choke.
              So, sit there in your own Europe and don't blather. It’s not for you to blame us. It was not we who came to you with a sword, but you constantly climbed to us. And constantly, they also received strong and high quality wort from us.
            8. olegyurjewitch
              olegyurjewitch 28 July 2012 20: 00
              +3
              Quote: back
              : WHO ANSWERED FOR THE DESTRUCTION OF THE LEGAL Afghan President and hundreds of military personnel in 1979? So hopefully clear?

              And with whose filing Gaddafi was killed, with whose filing democratic changes are taking place in the once stable countries of the Middle East? But you never know what more can be cited as an example. You don’t need to poke Afghanistan, by your standards you can assume that this was the establishment of a true democracy.
            9. Orthodox warrior
              Orthodox warrior 28 July 2012 20: 07
              +1
              you tested the restore function of your back
              Finally, decide on the flag! Either Amer, then German.
              1. Russian-
                Russian- 29 July 2012 11: 54
                +1
                Quote: Orthodox warrior
                Finally, decide on the flag! Either Amer, then German.

                What is it like?
            10. TAGIR
              TAGIR 28 July 2012 21: 26
              +1
              Why are you a nice person changing color as a little boy, you are bad. And the landing on Haitia, and Noriega, and Allende, and Saddam, etc. So you can break your teeth
            11. DERWISH
              DERWISH 29 July 2012 04: 54
              +2
              you are right sir, but the strategic balance at our borders depended on this operation !!! notice ours and in the case of amers they decide their interests across the ocean and even opened their mouths to Siberia, although of course you are right in something
            12. biglow
              biglow 29 July 2012 09: 48
              0
              you tested the restore function of your back,
              and who is responsible for the overthrow of the garden of Hussein, the Iraqis did not ask him to overthrow. your Israel has no means to overthrow the power in Iran, but would have taken advantage of the side and what kind of losses will the people have. Do double standards rule the truth?
          2. esaul
            esaul 28 July 2012 18: 48
            +8
            Quote: dreamer
            You can only be proud of the specialists of the USSR !!!

            Mmmm! A wonderful comment and wonderful words, Alexey! Glory to our specialists! Masters of their craft and what the hell "seals" and other commando gopota will jump over them! Plus, buddy! good drinks
        2. smile
          smile 28 July 2012 14: 12
          +24
          you tested the restore function of your back
          But do not confuse these things - do you have an example of our soldiers shooting demonstrations of civilians, using chemical weapons and napalm against non-combatants, or burning villages with mass execution of residents, as in Songmi?
          So do not juggle, especially since the United States unleashed over a hundred military conflicts over the 20th century, mostly bearing aggressive goals, so that it’s not necessary, the comparison will obviously not be in your favor.
          1. you tested the restore function of your back
            -50
            smile
            They reminded me of Afghanistan, and I answered in a way! That is, you have to start with yourself and only then ask from others.
            Well, who did the US capture and bring to genocide in the past 20 years?
            USA, my friend, WORLD LEADER, but I highly recommend that you deal with small-town problems, CRIMEAN, for example ..
            Somehow
            1. Rodriques
              Rodriques 28 July 2012 15: 43
              +26
              Indians !!! Indians exterminated! Drove into the reservation. Shame on the oppressors of the indigenous peoples of free America!
            2. ytqnhfk
              ytqnhfk 28 July 2012 16: 34
              +8
              Lun take care of your self-satisfaction obviously will not hinder you from resting, let your not very smart brains overheat Amer's litter of the pre-sex act !!
              1. ytqnhfk
                ytqnhfk 6 August 2012 20: 59
                -1
                I apologize to the members of the forum for my post but could not stand it! For not restraint, I got 2 sticks! Although I tried to be more correct !!!!!!!!!
            3. Alexander Romanov
              Alexander Romanov 28 July 2012 16: 42
              +11
              Quote: back
              WORLD LEADER,

              Yes !!!!!!!!!!!!!! The world has not seen such debtors yet. laughing What they are leaders of crimes against humanity, everyone knows!
              1. lelikas
                lelikas 28 July 2012 16: 52
                +7
                This is the normal behavior of a gopota who has collected money like a loan from junior high school students - Yes, he must, and cho !! It seems they do not refuse debt, but FIGs will be interrogated back.
              2. survivor
                survivor 29 July 2012 01: 31
                +2
                I'm not a Nazi, but for some reason, all subhuman gathered in North America)))
            4. smile
              smile 28 July 2012 16: 50
              +28
              you tested the restore function of your back
              Please spare me from the appeals accepted in your environment - "friend" ... it is somehow sticky ....
              Please do not pretend that you do not know that the civil war unleashed in the Yugoslavia with the active participation of the USA, the genocide of the Serbs in Kosovo by the Albanians, whose leaders are human traffickers, a bloody mess in Iraq, Libya, Afghanistan, throughout North Africa, Yemen and riots and civil wars on the territory of the Soviet Union, to which the United States actively pawed, claimed more than a million lives over the past 20 years .... or is this not enough for you?
              And, our inexpensive one, the United States is not a world leader, but a bankrupt state, which, with the help of military force, is trying to stay afloat and retain the role of the world Pahan .... they themselves realized that they would not succeed. that is why they are trying to wreak havoc in the world, I hope it won’t work out.
              And I highly recommend your advice to you ..... send it on purpose .... I hope this place does not crack with you.
              And the last, in principle, the Americans deified by you perfectly showed their face during Hurricane Katrina. You know, at least one other people who committed such unrest and similar crime, like supposedly civilized Americans, whose super-correct driving could not take control of the flooded territories for weeks, could not restrain the gangs of looters. who directly in the stadium, where tens of thousands of people were saved, killed, raped and robbed?
              By the way - share the information - troops urgently deployed by aviation from Iraq to restore order there with the order to shoot without warning how many people were shot there? And then the American most honest media somehow bashfully hushed up this topic ......
              1. esaul
                esaul 28 July 2012 18: 53
                +7
                Quote: smile
                And, our inexpensive one, the United States is not a world leader, but a bankrupt state, which, with the help of military force, is trying to stay afloat and retain the role of the world Pahan .... they themselves realized that they would not succeed. that is why they are trying to wreak havoc in the world, I hope it won’t work out.

                Volodya, welcome! Fasting is a test, as they like to express themselves now! I’ll add from myself - I am glad that YOU are expressing your sound and uncompromising thoughts on this forum. drinks
                1. smile
                  smile 28 July 2012 19: 52
                  +5
                  esaul
                  Thank you Valery! I must admit that you pretty much flattered me ... :))) Praise is pleasant to the cat too .... and it’s doubly from such a bison as you! :))))))
            5. Alexander Petrovich
              Alexander Petrovich 28 July 2012 17: 24
              +6
              Indians. Thanks to Rodriguez for reminding me.
              1. gor
                gor 29 July 2012 01: 32
                -9
                Petrovich do you know why I despise you? for the fact that you are like a jackal to a sherkhan.
                1. Alexander Petrovich
                  Alexander Petrovich 29 July 2012 13: 56
                  +6
                  It’s not very offensive to hear words of contempt from insignificance. I don’t care who you despise, however, you are still very lucky that I paid attention. to someone like you and still answered.
                2. Russian-
                  Russian- 29 July 2012 17: 34
                  +1
                  Quote: gor
                  gor

                  Gore - you are very cool !!! lol
            6. sergeant1973
              sergeant1973 28 July 2012 18: 19
              +11
              USA is not a world leader but a WORLD KILLER
              1. sichevik
                sichevik 28 July 2012 19: 29
                +9
                Quote: sergeant1973

                - 1 +
                USA is not a world leader but a WORLD KILLER



                Moreover, and in addition to all that has been said, there is also a hotbed of pederasty, bestiality and all other muck ... And they are also trying to spread it all around the world under the guise of democracy.
                1. survivor
                  survivor 29 July 2012 01: 32
                  +1
                  in ... in a word, the filth of this world. Sodom and Gomorrah in one bottle ...
              2. slas
                slas 29 July 2012 00: 25
                0
                Quote: sergeant1973
                USA is not a world leader but a WORLD KILLER

                This is the minimum that can be said about them
              3. Russian-
                Russian- 29 July 2012 11: 56
                +2
                Quote: sergeant1973
                not a world leader but a WORLD KILLER

                This is true, as someone wrote correctly here - the Nazis of the 21st century.
            7. dmitrijbyko
              dmitrijbyko 28 July 2012 18: 29
              +4
              I wonder who appointed them the WORLD LEADER. Are they themselves?
              And the personal question: why is your back flag changing (either the USA or Germany) being encrypted?
            8. ronin
              ronin 28 July 2012 20: 31
              +1
              And the Serbs in Kosovo?
            9. NKVD
              NKVD 28 July 2012 20: 34
              +7
              Quote: back
              USA, my friend, WORLD LEADER

              USA "darling" is NOT a world leader but sucks and a bunch of rabble from all over the world in one word a bubble "brilliantly splurge" around the world ... And keep your recommendations with you.
            10. TAGIR
              TAGIR 28 July 2012 21: 33
              0
              They themselves have a mouthful of trouble. Hello Aurora
            11. Evgeny B.
              Evgeny B. 28 July 2012 21: 51
              +2
              Again, the little devil (back) jumped out of the snuff box? How would I hide it back and snuff the snuffbox?
            12. Mervik
              Mervik 28 July 2012 22: 12
              +2
              I propose in general, now, right now, to shandarahnat with all the salvos, all the weapons, all the arsenal in the United States. Directly so, according to the kumpol, not expected !!! And I’m sure our missile defense system will cope with their prudent weapon! I'm even sure that the amers instantly capitulate. Because YOU LINKED !!!
              1. survivor
                survivor 29 July 2012 01: 33
                0
                +++++++++++++++++++++++! only from around the corner, but with the wrong hands ...
            13. mihos ve
              mihos ve 28 July 2012 22: 24
              0
              Shit, Krymsk is a natural disaster and human misfortune.
            14. slas
              slas 28 July 2012 22: 39
              0
              Quote: back
              They reminded me of Afghanistan, and I answered in a way! That is, you have to start with yourself and only then ask from others.
              Well, who did the US capture and bring to genocide in the past 20 years?
              USA, my friend, WORLD LEADER, but I highly recommend that you deal with small-town problems, CRIMEAN, for example ..
              Somehow

              the planet’s stomach, slowly passing into the rectum, decided to learn the brains of the earth’s ball, well, scream))) Well, as for Krymsk ------- you can feel your Orleans together with zasr-n and obosts-even where you slept and ate the stadium And continue to be saddened that you are the first page to use a vigorous bomb against people in Japan continues to litter with the consequences of ammunition with depleted uranium in Iraq, Yugoslavia, etc. Also experience mild pleasure when they come out to fight a knowingly weak adversary and their friends are called and ALL AGAINST ONE --- rejoice in the rectum. YOU are the strongest B-M-O-S-N-I-K-I on the planet
            15. DNA
              DNA 28 July 2012 22: 40
              +3
              The people in your country have fallen morally. Read the article on "Hell America". World leader in sniffing everywhere.
              1. Russian-
                Russian- 29 July 2012 11: 57
                +2
                Quote: DNA
                Read the article on "Hell America".

                Recently watched the news. They say that in America our 90s are coming. The crime rate, theft and robbery jumped 40%.
                Little to them ........! Let them feel what they have done to us!
            16. slas
              slas 29 July 2012 00: 30
              +3
              Quote: back
              USA, my friend, WORLD LEADER, but I highly recommend that you deal with small-town problems, CRIMEAN, for example ..
              Somehow

              Take care of Orleans "friend", but on the LEADER question, change the first letter to P --- here's the answer to you)))
            17. survivor
              survivor 29 July 2012 01: 29
              +1
              yeah, the world leader .... in eating fast food !!! and America would have spoken in Japanese if the Soviet troops had not taken Big Khingan. something a second front waited only for the closing of the curtain.
        3. Armata
          Armata 28 July 2012 17: 32
          +13
          Remind about Hiroshima and Vietnam? Who are the creatures here?
          1. Russian-
            Russian- 29 July 2012 11: 58
            +2
            Quote: Steam Train
            Remind Hiroshima and Vietnam

            Quote: Mervik
            death to amers!

            And that's it!
        4. Mervik
          Mervik 28 July 2012 21: 24
          +2
          death to amers!
          1. stroporez
            stroporez 6 August 2012 16: 48
            0
            find and kill around the world. either sideways refers to the state department or other government structure ---- perhaps to the vertical plane
    2. Victor
      Victor 28 July 2012 13: 20
      +19
      Who gave the voice? Representative of the main "democratizer" in the world? Whose cow would moo ... In my opinion, you began to encounter the same practice that the United States applies throughout the world, wherever your grabbing hands can reach. Or not to be confused bl ...... with a misunderstanding? Or are you like that monkey that for the first time saw the reflection of her grimaces in the mirror and settled down with fright? What goes around comes around. Bismarck warned not to get involved with Russia. It will be necessary, we will defend our people in Tartus, it will be necessary, we will come to defend our people in America. In short, where is the zone of our, Russian, vital interests.
      1. you tested the restore function of your back
        -57
        Victor,
        when a person goes on insults out of the blue, this indicates the absence of arguments and facts, just
        1. smile
          smile 28 July 2012 14: 15
          +20
          you tested the restore function of your back
          The fact of honestly expressing an opinion about you by Victor does not exclude that he is right. Think, maybe your cynical and hypocritical position deserves what Victor said? And anyway - be politically correct - smile. smile .... :)))))
          1. Vito
            Vito 28 July 2012 15: 10
            +7
            smile (3)Hello Hello!
            Save your beautiful teeth and a wolf grip for someone stronger!
            Do not waste on trifles! drinks
            1. esaul
              esaul 28 July 2012 18: 57
              +4
              Quote: Vito
              Save your beautiful teeth and a wolf grip for someone stronger! Do not waste on trifles!

              NO-no, colleague! Greetings! Tearing these jerboasters is necessary until they mutate into lapdogs, then into bulldogs and more ... Fatty hog is tearing up a more troublesome task. So - right away, so as not to suffer for a long time ...
              1. survivor
                survivor 29 July 2012 01: 37
                +1
                I welcome both smiley and esaul !!!
                1. smile
                  smile 29 July 2012 16: 19
                  0
                  survivor
                  Great - haven't seen each other for a long time! :))))
          2. you tested the restore function of your back
            -31
            smile
            but what does my modest personality have to do with the issues discussed?
            Or when there are no arguments on the issue, the transition to personality begins? Or my opinion is not welcomed by local old-timers and it is necessary to zamusunuvat to shards, so that would not further prevent you from doing cap-dressing? ...
            I smile to the core))
            1. Bort radist
              Bort radist 28 July 2012 16: 24
              +9
              There were more than enough arguments !!! A double smile of some kind and Hollywood - I do not believe it! The soul, like your silhouette, is black.
            2. Yura
              Yura 28 July 2012 18: 37
              +5
              Somewhere here, on this site, I will quote "the wider you open your mouth, the more you can see the inner content" damn it also stinks.
              Quote: back
              I smile to the core))
            3. uladzimir.surko
              uladzimir.surko 29 July 2012 00: 56
              +1
              I wait to visit, am am Grandfather Talash! am
          3. ytqnhfk
            ytqnhfk 28 July 2012 16: 35
            +4
            definitely more tolerant of yourself YOU ARE VERY USEFUL !!!!!!
        2. Alexander Romanov
          Alexander Romanov 28 July 2012 14: 19
          +20
          Quote: back

          Victor,
          when a person goes on insults out of the blue, this indicates the absence of arguments and facts, just

          It’s just that, unfortunately, Victor doesn’t have the opportunity to stuff some face well, a brazen selling face!
          1. smile
            smile 28 July 2012 14: 28
            +14
            Alexander Romanov
            Exactly !!!! You forgot to say - arrogant RED Muzzle! :))))))
            1. Odessa
              Odessa 28 July 2012 15: 39
              +12
              smile,
              You forgot to say - arrogant RED Muzzle! :))))))

              To put it mildly, I usually hang my cat with such `` complements. '' laughing
              And on the trolls, forget it!
              1. smile
                smile 28 July 2012 16: 08
                +11
                Odessa
                Prrrrivet !!!! By the way, I prefer not to "beat the troll", but "beat the troll" ... for meat! :)))))
                And I also called my Emelya - although he is gray in a strip, he has a red soul! Just like this troll. :)))))
                1. Odessa
                  Odessa 28 July 2012 16: 19
                  +14
                  smile,
                  By the way, I prefer not to "beat the troll", but "beat the troll" ... for meat! :)))))

                  They are overwhelmingly poisonous.
                  1. smile
                    smile 28 July 2012 17: 02
                    +5
                    Odessa
                    Okay, I convinced - I won’t eat .....
                    And the picture is awesome! :))))))) Heroic bird! Judging by her pug, she is now muttering all the known bird swear words and curses the day when she was flattered by a yummy girl, because of which she fell into the trap of these nonsense birds, the bawdy monkeys who had enslaved the world! :)))))
                    1. Odessa
                      Odessa 28 July 2012 17: 28
                      +8
                      smile,
                      Hero bird!

                      An owl is a symbol of wisdom! And it is written there that endurance is the only way to survive in the world of idiots!
                      1. Russian-
                        Russian- 29 July 2012 11: 59
                        +1
                        Ooh, even girls find themselves in such a high rank.
                        Quote: Odessa
                        Owl is a symbol of wisdom!
              2. Alexander Romanov
                Alexander Romanov 28 July 2012 16: 45
                +6
                Quote: Odessa

                smile
                You forgot to say - arrogant RED Muzzle! :))))))
                To put it mildly, I usually hang my cat with such `` complements. ''
                And on the trolls, forget it!

                Esther, the sooner his shoulder straps are covered with skulls, the less he will have the opportunity to write law-making posts am
                1. Odessa
                  Odessa 28 July 2012 17: 06
                  +6
                  Alexander Romanov,
                  the sooner his shoulder straps are covered with skulls, the less he will have the opportunity to write law-making posts

                  ok, this is when the `` mind '' whips on shoulder straps ?! wassat
                  1. NKVD
                    NKVD 28 July 2012 20: 38
                    +5
                    With his pursuit, you could dare to command a gay parade
                  2. SlavaP
                    SlavaP 1 August 2012 23: 22
                    0
                    Or as they used to say: "there is nothing above the shoulder straps"
                2. Mervik
                  Mervik 28 July 2012 22: 20
                  +2
                  And what does it mean, skulls on uniform?
                  1. dreamer
                    dreamer 28 July 2012 22: 27
                    +7
                    Quote: Mervik
                    And what does it mean, skulls on uniform?

                    If the nickname of the skull shines on uniform,
                    This uncle bad know this children
                    Hates Homeland, but we don’t need to,
                    We minus him for it together
                    drinks
                    1. 755962
                      755962 29 July 2012 00: 17
                      +3
                      Quote: dreamer
                      We minus him for it together

                      I recognize the good old Alexei! I can’t wait to jump on the mosaic with Tatanka Yotanka ...
                      1. dreamer
                        dreamer 29 July 2012 00: 20
                        +1
                        Quote: 755962
                        I recognize the good old Alexei! I can’t wait to jump on the mosaic with Tatanka Yotanka ...

                        Already contacted in the topic about the purchase of the Lynx, but short laughing
                      2. 755962
                        755962 29 July 2012 00: 37
                        +2
                        Quote: dreamer
                        Already contacted

                        Just don’t go anywhere else ... Here is the heavy artillery fellow as needed! Happy holiday! Day of the Baptism of Russia! And tomorrow again a holiday! Oh how .....
          2. you tested the restore function of your back
            -34
            Alexander Romanov,
            is beating your main method? But what about a peaceful and civilized dialogue and respect for the interlocutor?
            1. smile
              smile 28 July 2012 15: 27
              +13
              you tested the restore function of your back
              C'mon, don’t worry - nobody was going to beat you .... :)))
              By the way, you surprised me again - I remember you advocating for a policy of a country that civilly conducts a dialogue with opponents periodically clutching at a bomb-bomb club (of course, only if it can’t get a change - but what, normal behavior of a robber and a robber) - let us know Is it from an excess of respect and civilization?
            2. Vito
              Vito 28 July 2012 15: 30
              +5
              Quote: back
              But what about a peaceful and civilized dialogue and respect for the interlocutor?

              That is precisely civilized, not shameless, short comments, not substantiated by anything. And cheers-patriotism has nothing to do with it, learn to respect your interlocutors yourself.
              I personally appeal to you! And I will not answer your remarks anymore. You are not interesting for me. Farewell.
            3. lewerlin53rus
              lewerlin53rus 28 July 2012 16: 22
              +5
              Pot calls the kettle black! How much does your fucking State Department agree with Assad? So you shouldn't blame yourself from a sore head to a healthy one! Little Syria? Remind amerovskie "exploits" around the world? Or you yourself remember?
            4. Alexander Romanov
              Alexander Romanov 28 July 2012 16: 50
              +5
              Quote: back

              Alexander Romanov,
              is beating your main method?

              No, what are you, I prefer not to get my hands dirty in blood, why beat? Took to the forest and shot! laughing
              Quote: back
              But how is a peaceful and civilized dialogue and respect for the interlocutor
              That you now recalled Gaddafi, in words America is peaceful, but in fact the aggressor!
              1. Bully
                Bully 28 July 2012 22: 03
                0
                On you tested the restore function of your back

                Colleagues, why pay so much attention to the "ass" (most likely a Jew). Let him work in monologue mode.
            5. Alexander Petrovich
              Alexander Petrovich 28 July 2012 17: 27
              +8
              Well, that back you seem to have broken your teeth today, not to see you today’s salary. The provocation was successfully foiled by our guys. Well done!
            6. Gipmol
              Gipmol 28 July 2012 19: 02
              +6
              AHA "PEACEFUL AND CIVILIZED DIALOGUE" can be conducted only in Guantanomo and only to the "WORLD LEADER" and the dialogue should be carried out in a bag on the head of the apponent for years without any courts or any outdated "HUMAN RIGHTS", where they also apologized to the people of Afghanistan , Iraq, Libya putting bags on them and pouring water on them
              1. Russian-
                Russian- 29 July 2012 12: 01
                +1
                Quote: GIPMOL
                "PEACEFUL AND CIVILIZED DIALOGUE"

                The main thing is that Democratic! wassat - and everything else is not important anymore!
            7. NKVD
              NKVD 28 July 2012 20: 42
              +3
              Quote: back
              is beating your main method? But what about a peaceful and civilized dialogue and respect for the interlocutor?

              It is a whipping and nothing more. A RESPECT you do not deserve
        3. Shooter308ful
          Shooter308ful 28 July 2012 14: 41
          +28
          back, no offense, buddy! Long ago received citizenship? The United States of North America is not the most democratic state in terms of governing its ordinary people with its various democratic institutions. But living there is perhaps easier socially. But as we all know, this situation has been achieved by the fact that the advertising of the dollar at one time as the most reliable currency in the world and the fact that the founders of a private shop such as the US Federal Reserve have a printing press for this very dollar. This is the greatest deception of the peoples of the world by these compilers of the New World Order. And the goal of these people is the seizure of all other levers of world governance by this "golden million" and free access to all sources: human, raw materials, intellectual, territorial, etc.
          That they - the real rulers of the United States - value "their people" - i.e. living in the United States. This is a lie that is well exposed in the movie of your, back, new compatriots "Bargaining chip". Such actions of your, back, new rulers cause in the healthy part of the world's population, which is the majority of the population of Russia, a huge antagonism, to put it mildly, which sometimes transfers to persons who support, agitate, promote this blatant lie-mild aggression, expressed in personal light satirical aspect.
          With respect to the peoples of America. Become the true rulers of your country, and not just super-fat extras, turning into cattle, which are fed not only harmful food, but also harmful, deceitful information.
          1. you tested the restore function of your back
            -31
            shooter308ful,
            ahah, so what's the problem accordingly?
            Make your ruble the greatest currency in the world and dictate your own conditions to everyone. On health, and we'll see)
            1. smile
              smile 28 July 2012 15: 57
              +10
              you tested the restore function of your back
              Almost half of your comments start with the words "ahah" and "ahaha" ... is this a kind of "nah" or what? Or your most important encrypted argument? :)))))
              1. Alexander Petrovich
                Alexander Petrovich 28 July 2012 18: 49
                +3
                No, this is hidden anger. Yes, to show that he is not angry at all, but rather, grins, writes these letters, supposedly laughs at us. And he himself, chokes with anger))
            2. Yura
              Yura 28 July 2012 20: 13
              +4
              Quote: back
              Make your ruble the greatest currency in the world and dictate your own conditions to everyone.
              Our ruble as a currency exists much longer than your country in general, as I understand the United States, and Russia has never usurped the right to print money for everyone and hence assume that everyone owes it, as the United States does, and it never dictated its conditions to anyone yet any interventionist and other vile mercenary evil spirits did not force her to do so. Russia existed for a long time, that is, millennia before the ruble and will continue to exist always if it comes up with another equivalent to money, the United States and NATO exist only at the expense of the dollar and while there is a dollar, and this is not for long, your future or yuan or one and coins of the east or at the very end of Africa.
              1. Mervik
                Mervik 28 July 2012 22: 34
                +2
                every ruble is backed by gold !!! Each ruble is exchangeable for the corresponding weight equivalent of gold. What about the dollar? If you take all the dollars around the world and take all the US gold, then ... one dollar will cost less than the paper itself on which it is printed! And it's a fact, it's a soap bubble
                1. survivor
                  survivor 29 July 2012 01: 43
                  +1
                  so in the 50X they generally took all the gold from the population ....
            3. NKVD
              NKVD 28 July 2012 20: 46
              +2
              Quote: back
              Make your ruble the greatest currency in the world and dictate your conditions to everyone.

              If the ruble becomes the world currency. This means that your rotten world has come ... hang yourself ... and there will be no one to watch
              1. Russian-
                Russian- 29 July 2012 12: 02
                +3
                Quote: NKVD
                If the ruble becomes the world currency

                That's for sure. $ - Khan is not today, so tomorrow.
            4. survivor
              survivor 29 July 2012 01: 41
              +1
              it’s not funny, but this has already happened and I’m sure it will be))). history does not tolerate emptiness, and green wrappers will remain them after the aforementioned felt boots)))
        4. Victor
          Victor 28 July 2012 15: 00
          +14
          Quote: back
          when a person goes on insults out of the blue, this indicates the absence of arguments and facts, just

          Is it really an insult to the truth? As for the facts of the colonialist policy of the United States around the world, there is not enough space on our forum to bring them. You, Mr. Repatriate, I advise you to read the analytics of many, now, your compatriots, who fully give an analysis of those outrages called neocolonialism that the USA daily commits in the modern world. Start with the history of the United States and millions of destroyed Indians, and then as they say on the list. Nothing personal to you and a huge hatred of your American politics. Believe the old paratrooper, if I had such an opportunity and the right, I would tear your United States even with my bare hands and teeth just because the states always and everywhere impose unnecessary, lying democracy, and those who disagree with them knife. So, Mr. Repatriate.
          1. you tested the restore function of your back
            -31
            Victor
            do you have a monopoly on the truth? And you can express your "truth" more correctly. What does the "voice", "cow" and "flag" have to do with it? You have to be simpler
            Well, I don’t litter your ideals yet ...
            A little thought will not hurt
            1. Victor
              Victor 28 July 2012 16: 19
              +20
              Quote: back
              A little thought will not hurt

              Yes, where am I to the syroma, and to the poor paratrooper from the Russian bastard? What's up with me? Only a few thousand years of the heroic and complex history of my country, people who sincerely, and not for a hamburger love their land, an excellent scientific and military school of the country, and most importantly the readiness of most of my compatriots to defend this country without fear of adversity.
              Ask yourself, is there all this in your star-striped America ?. Now about the cow. This is such a Russian proverb and it has nothing to do with insults. If you are Russian, you need to know such things, if not, then take note. As for the truth, you are right, everyone has their own. So we will protect ours from yours, with whom you consider to be the only right one in the world. A little thought will not hurt.




            2. 77bor1973
              77bor1973 28 July 2012 21: 09
              +2
              The trick is that in due time, thanks to Russia, the USA as a state did not disappear from the map - a paradox
              1. stroporez
                stroporez 6 August 2012 16: 56
                0
                don’t bother --- in Amer’s schools they don’t teach this. And then the current didn’t die of hunger thanks to Russian merchants - I don’t know either
        5. dmitrijbyko
          dmitrijbyko 28 July 2012 18: 31
          +1
          Where did you hide the flag? No.
        6. NKVD
          NKVD 28 July 2012 20: 36
          +1
          It is not possible to offend you
        7. survivor
          survivor 29 July 2012 01: 36
          +1
          Yes, America already has 90% of the world's population-vomit !!! people swear. pray that you’ll just swear, otherwise you can instead drop a felt boot on a button ......... silently)))
    3. John
      John 28 July 2012 13: 23
      +6
      Yankees go home !!! am
    4. smile
      smile 28 July 2012 13: 27
      +16
      you tested the restore function of your back
      Well, actually, from the lips of a person with American identification marks, reproaches about parts of peoples and parts of someone’s territories sound not just cynical .... but somehow disgusting .... We certainly understand that the whole planet and the lives of its inhabitants belong to the divine USA .... and for some reason only the slow-witted do not agree with this .... but one should be more modest, okay? By the way, you have already torn your navel .... it is very doubtful that you could regain the former power of the time of the 90s, so it's time to pick out a log from an eye - good luck!
      1. dreamer
        dreamer 28 July 2012 13: 31
        +12
        Quote: smile
        By the way, you have already torn your navel ..

        At the end of fiscal year 2012 (September 30) US budget deficit will reach $ 1,2 trillion, the country's economy growth for the year - 2,6%, The White House Budget Office reported Friday.

        Vladimir, to the point, but 20 years of monopoly and hegemony in the international arena do not pass without leaving a trace, there is "dizziness from success" and a lack of understanding that there are countries that can snitch on a teapot (Russia, China)
        1. you tested the restore function of your back
          -38
          dreamer,
          what are they and how do they insist? Have Dokka Umarova and his colleagues already been tapped at home?
          1. Alexander Romanov
            Alexander Romanov 28 July 2012 14: 23
            +21
            Quote: back
            Dokka Umarova and his colleagues were already tapping at home

            Sooner or later they will bury him like a dog!
            1. Odessa
              Odessa 28 July 2012 15: 04
              +18
              Alexander Romanov,
              These are the numbers that Umarovites minus you.?
              Sooner or later they will bury him like a dog!

              In the East there is such a proverb, every dog ​​has his own time!
              1. Alexander Romanov
                Alexander Romanov 28 July 2012 15: 08
                +16
                Esther, there are a lot of them on the site today, minuses do not spare laughing And we do not care, we are not afraid of the wolf and the pig angry
                1. Odessa
                  Odessa 28 July 2012 15: 22
                  +12
                  Alexander Romanov,
                  God will not give, the pig will not eat!
                  there are a lot of them on the site today, cons do not spare

                  Before forgetting, let them not grunt wassat
            2. you tested the restore function of your back
              -31
              Alexander Romanov,
              "sooner or later" is not the answer! The war is in full swing.
              Place order in YOUR HOUSE for a start, and only then try to teach someone
              1. Alexander Romanov
                Alexander Romanov 28 July 2012 15: 37
                +11
                you tested the restore function of your back,
                Quote: back
                "sooner or later" is not the answer!

                In US publications, journalists call Umarov nothing more than Mr. Umarov. We’ll put things in order when we cut off all the financial hoses coming from the State Department and supplying Mr. Umarov as well. So this is the answer, sooner or later they will bury the dog. And in America, the whole warrior is ahead, you can believe it! And very soon, once again I sincerely wish ordinary Americans who are not related to the crimes of their government that they would have at least food on Christmas table 2012. I do not wish you this!
              2. pribolt
                pribolt 28 July 2012 15: 54
                +10
                Quote: back
                Place order in YOUR HOUSE for a start, and only then try to teach someone

                You are a "friend" do not worry soon and we will put things in order yes
              3. 755962
                755962 28 July 2012 18: 05
                +15
                Quote: back
                Hover to start order in your home

                Have you already induced in yours? Or are you pointing?
                Near the city of Atlanta in the state of Georgia were discovered purchased by the United States Federal Agency for Emergency Management (hereinafter FEMA FEMA), and the US government, plastic coffins in the amount of 500 to 000 million. Moreover, coffins of different sizes. The largest can fit up to five people.
                The worst forecast is if, before implanting the chips to the population, the US government and the Federal Reserve System (FRS), in order to justify the inevitable fall of the dollar, will provoke and carry out an unheard-of terrorist attack. And it will be 9/11 times one hundred or one thousand. Those people who were able to organize the start of world wars and revolutions, in order to equate the dollar with gold, would easily sacrifice one country, even the United States, in order to be able to introduce one world monetary unit and gain global financial control. And for those who remain alive and do not want to submit to the new society, a new place of residence has already been prepared - 800 new concentration camps.
                “These camps are under round-the-clock protection, despite the fact that they are empty. There are railways to the camps, many camps have airports. Like Auschwitz, some of the camps have airtight buildings. Most camps are designed for up to 20000 prisoners. The largest of these complexes are located near Fairbanks, Alaska. Alaska's complexes can simultaneously allow treating “mental health” in droves - about 2 million people. The purpose of all these fixed and movable complexes is unknown to the vast majority of Americans. And therefore, rumors and gossip are multiplying around them: some believe that many buildings are intended for the deployment of the UN occupying forces; others believe that - for the millionth Russian army! And also for the troops of Poland, Belgium, Turkey, Nicaragua and so on. And few people understand that all this is not even for aliens, but for the Americans themselves. Currently, all camps are empty, but all camps are fully equipped with guards ready to accept prisoners of US citizens who disagree with the government ... ”- said Countercurrents.org.
                Lord, how sorry for the people! Lord, enlighten and have mercy on these blind men!
                1. Russian-
                  Russian- 29 July 2012 17: 37
                  +1
                  Quote: 755962
                  Lord, how sorry for the people!

                  SIMPLE Americans - yes, maybe. Perhaps there are among them normal people who were born simply in the wrong place, in the wrong country, and at the wrong time.
                  But the concentration camps are bent. Meaning? It’s easier to just kill than to protect, feed and stuff. Moreover, viruses and bacteria allow this to be done very effectively.
              4. Delink
                Delink 28 July 2012 18: 48
                +3
                Place order in YOUR HOUSE for a start, and only then try to teach someone


                Do not stick your nose into someone else’s woo ... you don’t wash yourself. And to indicate what we do is our internal affairs. Put your mind in order. And then there garbage got divorced, for 200 years not to clean up. And if you decide to teach everyone the mind, start with yourself, what do you want in this life? Live peacefully, or get 3,14 passengers.
              5. survivor
                survivor 29 July 2012 01: 48
                0
                too, I can advise you. in America itself there are so many problems that it is very surprising to impose any other ....
            3. Gakkoga
              Gakkoga 28 July 2012 16: 34
              +7
              Maybe the brothers will laugh, how many Amers have been looking for their own protégé Osama bin Laden in their own turnout, and then they decided to "socially soak". We are generally silent about Guantanomo, there is a beacon of DEMOCRACY))))
          2. dmitrijbyko
            dmitrijbyko 28 July 2012 18: 39
            +5
            Umarov "works" for US money, not backed by anything. And don't forget that China has the potential to crash the vaunted dollar. Finally, do not sew flags for Americans fool
          3. NKVD
            NKVD 28 July 2012 20: 55
            +3
            Until Umarov, we still haven’t reached yet, but our brilliant special divisions of the FSB urge them all over the world as the prince promised
          4. Mervik
            Mervik 28 July 2012 22: 40
            0
            how do I want your amers to provoke a conflict off the coast of Syria and that our Navy would kick a tail on the tailbone of Amer’s homosexual in uniform
        2. 755962
          755962 28 July 2012 18: 01
          +10
          Quote: dreamer
          there was "dizziness from success"

          1. dreamer
            dreamer 28 July 2012 18: 09
            +4
            755962Hi Eugene! I read somewhere that on this scoreboard the order of numbers was doubled twice ... A terrifying sight
            1. 755962
              755962 28 July 2012 18: 15
              +5
              Quote: dreamer
              Horrific sight

              Wow, Alexey! Amer loves SHOW. Even if IT is from its own ......GoLONG
              1. dreamer
                dreamer 28 July 2012 18: 21
                +5
                Quote: 755962
                Amer love SHOW. Even if IT is from its own ...... GODLGA

                Yes, with their mentality, they and the End of the World will direct. Yesterday (tonight) during the opening of the Olympics, the commentator spoke up in a convincing voice: This is the melody that sounds now sounded on the sinking Titanic, in order to inspire people it was played by an orchestra on the deck. It’s pathetic of course, but it’s only suitable for cinema, life shows that they fight to the last, throwing others out of the boats and selecting lifebuoys ... You have to change your nickname, life ruined your dreamy mood winked
                1. 755962
                  755962 28 July 2012 18: 30
                  +7
                  Leave Nick ... Cool cat ..... And the fact that the whole of Europe resembles "Titanic" ..... I wonder where the orchestra will play ....., but the fact that this orchestra will hear the whole world I No doubt.
          2. Mervik
            Mervik 28 July 2012 22: 56
            +1
            Here is the official website of the US national debt.
            At the moment, the debt was $ 15,9 trillion
            www.usdebtclock.org
        3. moonblood
          moonblood 4 August 2012 00: 39
          0
          I agree! The USA is a world leader in the production of candy wrappers. A couple of military defeats, and with such an abundance of conflicts involving America, this is not a question (everyone has already got it!), And candy wrappers will become candy wrappers!
      2. you tested the restore function of your back
        -33
        smile
        ahaha, and if you assume the impossible with a proxy, then what arguments will you have?
        1. smile
          smile 28 July 2012 14: 07
          +12
          you tested the restore function of your back
          Soooo, and you know that a cobatant participating in a war (albeit informational) caught during military operations without a military uniform and identification marks was often shot without trial because he admitted to being a bandit and could not count on him being taken prisoner ? :)))))))) ... Okay, I'm joking. Sorry, I didn’t know that your flag was a fiction. Here I have a Russian one - I don’t hide it and don’t see the need to hide it .... well, I’m not interested in why you hide your ...
          Your question is not specific, what arguments should I give? some word "ahaha"
          What did the US navel tear off? .... Okay, to hell with it - with the economy, although this is very serious. The fact is that in the nineties the United States did not have worthy opponents - we, through the efforts of the general people were in the anus, China has not strengthened yet, the United States could do whatever it pleases on the international scene .... they did not have time to squeeze the situation, now it's late , the world has ceased to be monopolar.
          1. dreamer
            dreamer 28 July 2012 14: 12
            +17
            Vladimir, do not get distracted, I thought this was a serious opponent, but this is some self-asserting IT, which cannot even reasonably argue and everything ends with "the fool himself" or stupid questions.
            Do not feed the troll drinks
            1. smile
              smile 28 July 2012 16: 28
              +6
              dreamer
              Perhaps you are right .... I will not answer him anymore.
          2. you tested the restore function of your back
            -23
            smile
            ahah, and who is the US "worthy adversary" today? Tell this sad story ...
            1. Alexander Petrovich
              Alexander Petrovich 28 July 2012 17: 29
              +9
              Sad for whom? For the USA? Yes . I agree, but what do you say. when it is completed, the impossible for you is the USA, by will, or fate. or higher forces, or maybe, by will, a simple Russian soldier will fall?
            2. 755962
              755962 28 July 2012 18: 09
              +8
              Quote: back
              and who is the United States today a "worthy adversary"?

              Yes, you are your own enemies ....
              1. stroporez
                stroporez 6 August 2012 09: 33
                0
                Bravo!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Toko they don’t want to understand this at all ---- Anglo-Saxons ................ mentality however ........
            3. Delink
              Delink 28 July 2012 18: 56
              +3
              and who is the United States today a "worthy adversary"?


              If not We, then someone, if not We.
              Here is the answer. Just a pun. But everything is said in them. Think, Russia is 1000 years old and it is still alive and will live.
              Best regards
              1. Nikaviz
                Nikaviz 29 July 2012 02: 18
                0
                Excuse me!! I’ll correct ... OUR SLAVS are not 1000 years old, but more than 12000 ... according to archaeological excavations in Korelia and the middle Urals, that writing was already 110 years old !!! The question is who we are and who they are ... it's like shy children driving a truck. laughing
            4. NKVD
              NKVD 28 July 2012 21: 06
              +3
              Quote: back
              ahah, and who is the US "worthy adversary" today?

              If you seriously look at the history, the United States on its own did not win more than one war, not in the 20th century, not in 21, including Japan’s 2 world capitulation was not due to nuclear bombings, but according to the memory of the Japanese general, guess who was destroyed by the Kwantung Army? I’m not talking about Vietnam anymore. As I said to the USA, this is nothing, a soap bubble
            5. survivor
              survivor 29 July 2012 01: 49
              0
              sorry, I will rephrase. And TO WHOM IS THE USA WELCOME AN ENEMY?
        2. Odessa
          Odessa 28 July 2012 15: 06
          +11
          you tested the restore function of your back,
          In YouTube, the arguments are rampant, look don't get lost there.
          1. you tested the restore function of your back
            -30
            Odessa,
            Dear, I have ALL videos with Umarov and not only are available. Thanks for the video, however, these videos need to be watched more often by local haters to bring to life feelings and at least some information about the situation in the Caucasus
            1. dreamer
              dreamer 28 July 2012 15: 41
              +15
              Quote: back
              I have ALL videos with Umarov and not only are available.

              Secret admirer? I understand that you are a supporter of Western democratic freedoms with all that it implies, but you shouldn’t demonstrate such frank masculinity on this site, we don’t understand your sexual minorities values laughing
            2. Armata
              Armata 28 July 2012 17: 42
              +9
              Quote: back
              Dear, I have ALL videos with Umarov and not only, are available
              UUUUUUUUUUU pancake clinic. Go to a psychiatrist, and not stick around here to torment the brain of normal people. Pervert.
              1. Odessa
                Odessa 28 July 2012 18: 04
                +11
                Locomotive,
                Hello! Umarovets is a diagnosis, medetsin is powerless! Reaching ... this back-throat drunk as a radio.
              2. Russian-
                Russian- 29 July 2012 17: 39
                +1
                Quote: Steam Train
                Dear, I have ALL videos with Umarov and not only, are available

                Look back - the uncle from the FSB will bring you to your home and no one else will ever find you. Tell me your address - I will personally call where necessary and who needs it.
            3. sergeant1973
              sergeant1973 28 July 2012 19: 01
              0
              And I see you are an expert on the Caucasus with us? Have you been there at least once?
          2. Shooter308ful
            Shooter308ful 28 July 2012 19: 16
            +3
            Doku Umarov! And he is not dead yet? A bald jackal sits crap in the mountains.
        3. Delink
          Delink 28 July 2012 18: 52
          +3
          At first he was an American, then he became a German, and now without a homeland and a flag.
          Isn't it hard for an orphan? Have you decided who you are and with whom ?!
      3. Odessa
        Odessa 28 July 2012 16: 22
        +8
        smile,
        back-Well, actually from the lips of a person with American identification marks, reproaches about parts of peoples and parts of someone’s territories sound not just cynical .... but somehow disgusting ....

        And you didn’t know ...
    5. NauruS
      NauruS 28 July 2012 13: 39
      +9
      YANKS GO HOME !!!
      1. Russian-
        Russian- 29 July 2012 12: 04
        +2
        Quote: NauruS
        YANKS GO HOME !!!

        Yes, it’s better not to go home, but to Popenhagen via Rotrdam.
    6. Shulz-1955
      Shulz-1955 28 July 2012 13: 46
      +2
      And he will answer where you need to go
    7. Alexei
      Alexei 28 July 2012 13: 51
      +12
      Quote: back
      warns part of the Syrian people about its territory?

      Is it a people? Their al Qaeda supports. This so-called people only fulfills money.
      1. you tested the restore function of your back
        -26
        Alexej,
        what problems? Let the Syrian people hold HONEST ELECTIONS and choose decent power for themselves, and we will all see their desires and aspirations!
        1. Alexander Romanov
          Alexander Romanov 28 July 2012 16: 14
          +11
          Quote: back
          Let the Syrian people hold HONEST ELECTIONS and choose for themselves worthy power,

          Here you are again not in the know, the elections were recently held in Syria, which even before the start the American authorities recognized it as not legitimate, or are there arguments and evidence of falsification?
        2. pribolt
          pribolt 28 July 2012 18: 03
          +4
          back I saw the word in the photo of Odessa, which was made up by US soldiers, I think it doesn’t need translation for you, as I understand it, they described you with this word laughing Odessite for a photo +
    8. VY16
      VY16 28 July 2012 13: 53
      0
      you know, your comments do not carry anything clever and adequate. rather, power will collapse in the United States than in Syria, and I will be incredibly happy about it!
    9. Pilot200809
      Pilot200809 28 July 2012 13: 58
      +5
      you tested the restore function of your back, Dermokratovsky voice erupted, For a long time no one gave seriously on the face, here we go pee n - dos
      1. you tested the restore function of your back
        -22
        Pilot200809,
        ahah, but why be rude? Problems with the facts?
        1. sichevik
          sichevik 28 July 2012 22: 33
          0
          Hear, offended, but do you know anything besides ahah? What are you all the time ahahahaesh? Maybe you are very impressionable? Look do not laugh!
          And at the expense of facts, so you yourself did not bring anything specific?
          How much do your owners pay for srach on the site?
    10. VY16
      VY16 28 July 2012 13: 58
      +10
      back, your comments are somehow inadequate, that in life you are "rotten" that you are pouring out your anger here?
      1. you tested the restore function of your back
        -26
        VY16,
        Dear, the adequacy is determined by the medical commission and no one else!
        And I'm just trying to find on this site a justification for the position of local patriots who themselves cannot clearly and clearly explain the future prospects for Syria and Russia's place in this region
        1. Ivan Tarasov
          Ivan Tarasov 28 July 2012 17: 20
          +6
          A further perspective is this:
          Russia will not back down from its position, and on the American block (in the BV and SA, and then the Russian Federation) will have to put an end to.
          Consequently, it will not come out to bring down the price of oil and bring Russia to its knees.
          But that's not all.
          The American economy is in deep crisis and controlled chaos could have saved it from collapse. But the position of "intractable" Russia puts an end to all US plans.
          Your economy will collapse even before you imagine it.
        2. 755962
          755962 28 July 2012 18: 39
          +6
          Quote: back
          clearly explain the future prospects for Syria and Russia's place in this region

        3. NKVD
          NKVD 28 July 2012 21: 12
          +3
          Quote: back
          clearly and clearly explain the future prospects for Syria and Russia's place in this region

          And what is the place of the USA and the WEST in this region? ANSWER OF ANY PLACE OF THE PARASH ....
    11. Sphere
      Sphere 28 July 2012 14: 08
      +3
      Spies are everywhere ..... angry
    12. Fidain
      Fidain 28 July 2012 14: 15
      +9
      You are there in America, or even stupefied, or proato betrayed your country!
    13. Alexander Romanov
      Alexander Romanov 28 July 2012 14: 15
      +14
      Quote: back

      This is the Russian admiral warns about part of the Syrian people about his territory

      They warn not a part of the Syrian people, but mercenaries from al-Qaeda hired by American money and other corrupt trash, which has nothing to do with the Syrian people. Your American owners will be pleased with your post, you can count on material rewards.
      1. you tested the restore function of your back
        -22
        Alexander Romanov,
        please provide evidence of your information
        1. Odessa
          Odessa 28 July 2012 16: 02
          +9
          you tested the restore function of your back,
          Alexander Romanov,
          please provide evidence of your information

          On January 20 last year, in Washington, with the money of the National Endowment for Democracy, an organization funded by the US Congress through the State Department’s budget, the presentation of Ilyas Akhmadov’s book “The Chechen Struggle: Gained and Lost Independence” took place. In his book, he retroactively tries to justify the criminal regime in force in the Caucasus.
        2. Alexander Romanov
          Alexander Romanov 28 July 2012 16: 10
          +10
          Quote: back

          Alexander Romanov,
          please provide evidence of your information

          Wait a minute, does the American government deny this? Based on the statement, they not only support and conduct the organization and training of militants, but also directly recruit supporters in the ranks of terrorists for the allotted millions of dollars, if you still have not heard anything about it, the question arises, and from which planet did you go to to our website?
          1. Odessa
            Odessa 28 July 2012 16: 25
            +8
            Alexander Romanov,
            Wait a minute, but does the American government deny this?

            Yusovtsy do not deny, but back tries to deny.
    14. 1tankist
      1tankist 28 July 2012 14: 40
      +19
      Quote: back
      Is this the Russian admiral warning part of the Syrian people about his territory?

      The American, as always, substitutes for concepts, stating that black is white and vice versa. The so-called "part of the Syrian people", which the American claims, are gangster formations funded by the Americans and their vassals, who stupidly fulfill the order of the owners and they do not care about the problems of the true Syrian people. The Americans are afraid to openly invade Syria, only because Syria is still strong, it has an established air defense system. An American pilot who has invaded Syrian airspace will be shot down. An American infantryman who stepped into Syria with a rotten tread will be killed. The Syrian people have the right to defend their homeland from foreign invasion, including using chemical weapons to mow down the invaders in stacks. Americans understand this and therefore are trying to achieve their goals with someone else's hands. Declaring peace in the world, they unleash wars around the world and contribute to the destabilization of the situation. Peace and well-being of other nations is like a bone in the throat for Americans. After all, as long as others fight the Americans well, the nation is flourishing. When others try to build good-neighborly relations and develop cultural, industrial, commercial ... relations - America loses the opportunity to influence.

      In short, American politics at the present stage is a policy of vampires, because in order to feel their greatness the Americans, under the slogans of freedom and democracy, want to drown other nations in a civil war. And these scum will teach us how to live? fool

      American, you have been deceived by your own government. Terrorist No. 1 is not Osama bin Laden. Terrorist No. 1 is a U.S. government led by puppeteers who run your president and government, but remain in the background.
      1. you tested the restore function of your back
        -22
        1tankist,
        But in general, is there any evidence of the information you submitted? If there is, give references
        1. 11Goor11
          11Goor11 28 July 2012 16: 46
          +7
          In this article, the reaction of the common people to the "peaceful, friendly, democratic, tolerant formations of the warriors of light", who will soon be sent to where they belong. Contrary to "honest" Western propaganda, there are not many of them: a small part of the local criminals, and the rest hired in Lebanon, Qatar, brought to slaughter like sheep, the customers' main idea was to make a lot of noise, blood and on this wave invade regular armies , but so far "lovers of universal human values" are not given the right to bombardment by "totalitarian" Russia and China.
          http://www.nakanune.ru/articles/16722/
      2. Delink
        Delink 28 July 2012 19: 06
        +2
        The American, as always, replaces concepts by stating that black is white and vice versa.


        He just went through a brain cleaning procedure. At the same time, he was immediately pumped up with their new "true info". From which he will not turn in any way.
    15. Gakkoga
      Gakkoga 28 July 2012 16: 29
      +8
      By international standards, the base in Tartus is Russian territory, as well as the territory of a diplomatic mission or embassy. Therefore, if someone snoops in there without warning, they will receive such cradles that they will not seem enough.
    16. Centaurus
      Centaurus 28 July 2012 18: 42
      +5
      Are you worried about your star-studded masters? bully
      Stop drinking cola and choking on hamburgers, look at the world, and in particular at your masters with a sober look, if of course now it is not too difficult for you. fool
    17. olegyurjewitch
      olegyurjewitch 28 July 2012 19: 52
      +1
      Quote: back
      Is this the Russian admiral warning part of the Syrian people about his territory? A very bold statement ..

      What did you think, only the American flag can be bullied in foreign territories?
      1. Russian-
        Russian- 29 July 2012 17: 43
        0
        Quote: olegyurjewitch
        only the American flag can be bullied in foreign territories

        So far, unfortunately it seems like that !! But forever it ...... will not continue in any way! Russia rose from its knees. China too. The future is ours.
    18. Simon
      Simon 28 July 2012 23: 01
      0
      dack ..! Wait for the cancer to whistle on the mountain, then Assad’s regime will fall. wassat
      1. Russian-
        Russian- 29 July 2012 12: 04
        +1
        Quote: Simon
        when the cancer on the mountain whistles

        Russia will never allow this !!!
    19. KamikadZzzE
      KamikadZzzE 28 July 2012 23: 39
      +1
      you tested the restore function of your back,
      If Assad's regime collapses, it will not be soon. And the ships and the marines are insurance for him. Earlier I assumed that our taking control of strategic facilities in Syria would untie Assad's hands. It turned out even easier. Only 5 landing ships were enough to cool the head of the so-called. "friends" of Syria. And Assad is now calmly and persistently wets all kov without paying any attention to anyone. Watch and listen to the news regularly and draw conclusions.
      1. Russian-
        Russian- 29 July 2012 17: 44
        +1
        Quote: KamikadZzzE
        Only 5 landing ships were enough to cool my head

        Not only landing ships - however. There is a very impressive fleet. And submarines are 100% available.
    20. VlaStar
      VlaStar 28 July 2012 23: 55
      +2
      "Buddy" back, aren't you one of those "heroes" who urinate on the corpses of the dead? Really, purely American soldiers
  3. Alexei
    Alexei 28 July 2012 13: 12
    +9
    As the newspaper VIEW reported, Russia can re-open its naval bases in Cuba and in Vietnam.

    McCain will be delighted wink
    1. dreamer
      dreamer 28 July 2012 13: 18
      +5
      Quote: Alexej
      As the newspaper VIEW reported, Russia can re-open its naval bases in Cuba and in Vietnam.

      There was already a rebuttal, the magazine readers distorted the words and thought a little of themselves
      Ministry of Defense refutes intention to create new naval bases abroad

      27 July 2012, 21: 18

      The press service of the Russian Ministry of Defense has denied reports by a number of media outlets with reference to a statement by the Navy’s commander in chief, Vice Admiral Viktor Chirkov, according to which the Russian department is allegedly discussing the possibility of basing Navy ships abroad.

      “During the press conference of the Navy’s commander in chief, this topic was not discussed on Thursday and no official statements on this matter were made by the Navy’s commander in chief, Vice Admiral Chirkov,” the management said in an interfax report.

      “Issues of interstate relations are not within the competence of the High Command of the Navy and, therefore, could not be provided to the media in any acceptable format,” the statement of the press service and information department of the Ministry of Defense emphasized.
      1. Alexei
        Alexei 28 July 2012 13: 47
        +4
        Yes, I know. What is impossible to dream already? recourse
        1. dreamer
          dreamer 28 July 2012 13: 51
          +8
          Quote: Alexej
          Yes, I know. What is impossible to dream already?

          It's not a dream, it's almost a provocation wink But not everything is so sad, in Vietnam there will seem to be a refueling point, and in Cuba they also "bargained" for something, but while they are "encrypting", they may not want to substitute Babamka before the elections, because Maksimka is more profitable for Russia than Mormon Romney smile
    2. you tested the restore function of your back
      -23
      Alexej,
      and again that magic word "may" ...
      We will be neighbors in Guantanamo with you) poor ruble Cubans support
      1. Drednout
        Drednout 28 July 2012 15: 09
        +11
        Quote: back
        We will be neighbors in Guantanamo with you) poor ruble Cubans support

        Well, we will not land in the bay of pigs - that's for sure. Fidel doesn't take your nasty bucks for guantanama. Even if they are beggars (compared to snickering "democratic" societies), they are free and happy. And their medicine is free and no worse than amerovskoy.
  4. maestro123
    maestro123 28 July 2012 13: 16
    +9
    Nice words! One of our salvos and anti-Syrian rebels will feel what HELL is!
    1. you tested the restore function of your back
      -19
      and where exactly and what exactly will you "salvo"?
      1. maestro123
        maestro123 28 July 2012 14: 29
        +15
        It is possible with this, the Vulcan anti-ship missile system

        Designed to destroy enemy surface ships and coastal targets

        But where? There where to lean out.
        1. you tested the restore function of your back
          -20
          maestro123,
          What does the Vulcan anti-ship missile system have to do with a possible attack on Russian sailors by Syrian rebels in the port of Tartus?
          1. pribolt
            pribolt 28 July 2012 16: 56
            +12
            Quote: back
            What does the Vulcan anti-ship missile system have to do with a possible attack on Russian sailors by Syrian rebels in the port of Tartus?


            Well, the Volcano may not have a relationship, but our marine corps will quickly make out the Syrian rebels for spare parts, if they have a desire to sack our base, which I doubt very much, this is tantamount to suicide for them
  5. Bugor
    Bugor 28 July 2012 13: 17
    +13
    you tested the restore function of your back, And for this, there are agreements between states that they like, do not like, but carry out NECESSARY. After all, is Guantanamo still in Cuba? So there’s no getting around it. And if a revolution happens in Syria like our October Revolution (which is unlikely), then the government will still be obliged to fulfill the agreement.
    And generally speaking, you tested the restore function of your backDo you talk about this? You have already taught Iraq how to live, Libya, Yugoslavia ... Continue?
    1. you tested the restore function of your back
      -20
      Do you naively believe that the new government in Syria will fulfill Assad’s agreements with Moscow? Does Libyan also do the same?
      They just DO NOT NEED
  6. lotus04
    lotus04 28 July 2012 13: 20
    +9
    We would not advise “hotheads” from the Syrian opposition to do this, ”the source told Interfax.

    A warning not to the opposition, but to those who steers it. Deeply reputable pen - get it.
    1. you tested the restore function of your back
      -22
      Alexej,
      and if the "puppeteers" do not obey you, what will happen?
      1. Alexander Romanov
        Alexander Romanov 28 July 2012 14: 28
        +10
        Quote: back
        and if the "puppeteers" do not obey you, what will happen?

        I think you'll be the last one to have something from everything that happens and the first when you have to sacrifice someone lol
        1. you tested the restore function of your back
          -19
          Alexander Romanov,
          naivety of marshalls is sometimes treated with the blood of thousands of soldiers and civilians ...
          1. Alexander Romanov
            Alexander Romanov 28 July 2012 16: 21
            +13
            Quote: back
            naivety of marshalls is sometimes treated with the blood of thousands of soldiers and civilians ...

            Everything is correct, an example of the naivety and loss of the American army in Iraq, Afghanistan, and Georgia is the blood of thousands of soldiers and civilians! By the way, how many blacks did our soldiers in South Ossetia kill or were they not Americans who brought peace to the whole world?
            1. dreamer
              dreamer 28 July 2012 16: 28
              +10
              Quote: Alexander Romanov
              By the way, how many blacks did our soldiers in South Ossetia kill or were they not Americans who brought peace to the whole world?

              They killed a little, captured more wink
              1. Rodriques
                Rodriques 28 July 2012 16: 34
                +6
                Heh, over there in a patriot we have a sapper's shovel, from the killed "soldier Joe", number 3253 in my opinion)) and a helmet is lying around somewhere, if someone has not grabbed home.
          2. 11Goor11
            11Goor11 28 July 2012 16: 52
            +3
            You are absolutely right in this, Iraq and Afghanistan prove it.
            1. gor
              gor 29 July 2012 01: 41
              -5
              and what proves? that in Iraq and Afghanistan, Americans lost half the size of the contingent of the USSR in the same time. What are you proud of? Have you not been as much hated by Afghans as Americans now? If Afghans are so sure of their love for you then go there and on the street proudly announce where you are. don’t you get tired of .... kami to be measured? anyway, the Americans have more of it, but you get stuck and you disagree. but only if you need Americans like that ...... t and without even using a single soldier. and you know all this and therefore rage here. Take your soul
              1. Russian-
                Russian- 29 July 2012 12: 05
                +1
                What a heated debate however!
  7. urich
    urich 28 July 2012 13: 20
    +8
    At first, everyone started to laugh, now it’s beginning to reach what kind of labor all the legacy of the USSR came from. We begin to recall Kamran and Cuba ... Well, at least there was enough political will to cover the base in Syria.
    I would not want our sailors to shed blood for the next mythical allies in Africa ... But we need to stand up for ourselves ... The last time we defended our interests in August the eighth, so we don’t forget, we need to update
  8. Voron65
    Voron65 28 July 2012 13: 26
    +5
    Finally, statements of a country that respects itself began to appear, pleasantly.
  9. Bugor
    Bugor 28 July 2012 13: 28
    -5
    Quote: maestro123
    One volley of ours

    Of what? And for whom? They will immediately say that the civilian population has undergone ... etc. etc.
    What can a marine regiment do? Nothing .... You need to drive the equipment there, and the ships will be covered, but right now, apparently, we are only showing biceps ...
    1. Sober
      Sober 28 July 2012 13: 47
      +4
      Bugor,
      Marine Regiment can do a lot more with the Syrian army))
      1. you tested the restore function of your back
        -26
        Sober
        and what exactly can your marine regiment do with the partisans?
        1. smile
          smile 28 July 2012 15: 12
          +10
          you tested the restore function of your back
          In any case, he is able to establish a security zone sufficient for the safe operation of the MTO base. I’m not even talking about the foreign policy consequences. In any case, the presence of our naval group and the armed forces will serve as a serious deterrent to external aggression and serious moral support to the people of Syria.
        2. 1tankist
          1tankist 28 July 2012 15: 12
          +10
          Quote: back
          and what exactly can your marine regiment do with the partisans?


          The foreign agent again replaces the concept of calling a mercenary a partisan. To neutralize the mercenary, it is enough to close the possibility of financing it. And even easier to destroy when crossing the border and bring this information to potential mercenaries. Those wishing to earn on sabotage will be reduced. After all, the dead do not need money. laughing
        3. dmitrijbyko
          dmitrijbyko 28 July 2012 19: 00
          +6
          Where did the guerrillas see? The partisans are fighting against the invaders, and in Syria, trained, armed US provocateurs (not necessarily Syrian) fired
          1. Shulz-1955
            Shulz-1955 28 July 2012 23: 14
            0
            Perhaps the Syrians themselves are few among the mercenaries, there are plenty of goats from other countries
        4. Delink
          Delink 28 July 2012 19: 34
          +2
          and what exactly can your marine regiment do with the partisans?

          Listen to the song of the "Bachelor Party" group Sex without a break. Poses and places are described there.
          1. stroporez
            stroporez 6 August 2012 17: 08
            0
            laughing so sure !!!))) the current is such a low-hearted nervous show --- because it will be sex with utter perversions and cynicism ..............
        5. sichevik
          sichevik 28 July 2012 22: 43
          0
          you tested the restore function of your back,
          Do not confuse God's gift with fried eggs. What partisans are you talking about? Is it not about those who flocked from all over the world to fight for money, rob a civilian population and wreak havoc in Syria? Are al-Qaeda and the Afghan Taliban fighting in Syria on American money with Turkish weapons also partisans?
          Do not call bandits and mercenaries partisans.
          1. Russian-
            Russian- 29 July 2012 12: 06
            +2
            Quote: sichevik
            What partisans are you talking about? Is it not about those who flocked from all over the world to fight for money, rob a civilian population and wreak havoc in Syria?

            So this is the partisans reap! Partisans are those who defend their homeland! And this is so - looters.
  10. Sober
    Sober 28 July 2012 13: 42
    +2
    ours can provoke an attack on us to get in)))
    1. Russian-
      Russian- 29 July 2012 17: 45
      0
      Quote: Sober
      they themselves can provoke an attack on us to get into

      Easily.
  11. Yuras222
    Yuras222 28 July 2012 13: 46
    +5
    Everything should be done normally, statements must be made, but to repulse the opposition's attacks even before they start and fight back so that there is no one left from the opposition, and then conduct a political dialogue like the Pindos do.
    1. El13
      El13 28 July 2012 16: 25
      +8
      Let's stop calling the bandits and mercenaries the opposition ... They are bandits in Syria - bandits.
  12. Captain Vrungel
    Captain Vrungel 28 July 2012 13: 48
    +8
    The Northern Fleet is preparing for large-scale exercises. Why carry out in difficult climatic conditions. when you can in the azure Mediterranean Sea.
    Not only the American Navy to plow it. In addition, it’s time to put in order the somewhat neglected PMTO in Tartus. Revitalize life. Provide work for the Syrians. Behave neutral, but the presence will somewhat cool the hot heads.
    1. you tested the restore function of your back
      -21
      And you are not considering the possibility of terrorist attacks in Tartus against your sailors? Who will be responsible for the victims?
      1. Pilot200809
        Pilot200809 28 July 2012 14: 25
        +1
        You and answer in full
      2. Alexander Romanov
        Alexander Romanov 28 July 2012 14: 31
        +9
        Quote: back
        Who will be responsible for the victims?

        Mercenaries will answer, they will answer well! The government will not be able and will not sit idly by in such a situation, so the mercenaries will be robbed in full, do not hesitate.
      3. gispanec
        gispanec 28 July 2012 14: 34
        +4
        so you will answer as an instigator to these actions
      4. Ivan Tarasov
        Ivan Tarasov 28 July 2012 14: 38
        +6
        Those who supply the militants with weapons and who support them informationally will be responsible for the victims. Including, and some countries - members of NATO.
        1. you tested the restore function of your back
          -17
          Ivan Tarasov,
          and to whom and under what circumstances will NATO members respond?
          1. Alexander Romanov
            Alexander Romanov 28 July 2012 15: 53
            +9
            Quote: back
            and to whom and under what circumstances will NATO members respond

            Hitler’s leadership also thought that there would be no responsibility for crimes — Germany kept all of Europe under it. And all the more so in 1941, in Germany, no one thought that there would be a Russian army in Berlin in 45! But it won, how it happened. So NATO will answer very soon, only a complete senile and crazy will think that he will go unpunished for his crimes. World history does not know such examples.
          2. dmitrijbyko
            dmitrijbyko 28 July 2012 19: 05
            +2
            back is a provocateur. Flag changed again No.
            1. Russian-
              Russian- 29 July 2012 17: 46
              +1
              Quote: dmitrijbyko
              back - provocateur

              Or just a Masochist - like when they send and .......
          3. Delink
            Delink 28 July 2012 19: 19
            +2
            And you sir, why are you throwing your flags like that? Decide who you are and why you are, and with whom you are.
      5. Drednout
        Drednout 28 July 2012 15: 15
        +3
        Quote: back
        And you are not considering the possibility of terrorist attacks in Tartus against your sailors

        Have you already planned and rehearsed? Handwriting recognizable.
      6. pribolt
        pribolt 28 July 2012 18: 18
        +2
        Quote: back

        And you are not considering the possibility of terrorist attacks in Tartus against your sailors? Who will be responsible for the victims?


        You probably are already planning terrorist attacks, think well, you mom didn’t say that the terrorists do not live long
        1. Russian-
          Russian- 29 July 2012 17: 47
          +1
          Quote: pribolt
          that the terrorists do not live long

          And people like him too. Not today - tomorrow they will definitely strangle him somewhere for his tongue.
      7. dmitrijbyko
        dmitrijbyko 28 July 2012 19: 02
        +1
        Have you already prepared them (terrorist attacks)?
      8. Shulz-1955
        Shulz-1955 28 July 2012 23: 16
        0
        You were the first to say this, no one pulled your tongue, so you’ll probably answer
      9. biglow
        biglow 29 July 2012 10: 04
        0
        you tested the restore function of your back,
        and your Israel is responsible for the victims of rocket attacks on the gas sector. Turn the Golan heights to Syria and the Arabs of their land. And then worry about the partisans
  13. lelikas
    lelikas 28 July 2012 13: 52
    +4
    If in Yugoslavia one paratrooper stopped NATO tanks, then the marines will not let us down!
    And they won’t climb - it’s one thing to shoot in the air in front of the camera, and another to climb well-trained mops.
  14. Bugor
    Bugor 28 July 2012 13: 58
    -10
    Sober, and if we begin to act with the Syrian army - this is called intervention. In this situation, why are we better than amers? The UN thrusts us such e-books .... Our business is ONLY the protection of the base, and no more! So what will the marines defend the base? Remember how gouging our peacekeepers in Tskhinval!
    The armament of the marines is almost the same. Techniques - zero, except for the BTR for the equipment. Artillery - zero. Helicopters - zero, practically, except for the naval ones. There is nothing. Only ships.
    1. smile
      smile 28 July 2012 15: 17
      +5
      Bugor
      Intervention is an external intervention contrary to the will of the country's authorities. You didn’t mess anything up?
      Despite the overwhelming superiority of Georgians in manpower and equipment, they could not cope with our peacekeepers armed with small arms. Do you think that we with the Syrians are not able to agree on means of amplification that can be transferred to our operational subordination? Where such confidence?
    2. Alexander Romanov
      Alexander Romanov 28 July 2012 15: 29
      +5
      Quote: Bugor
      The armament of the marines is almost the same. Techniques - zero, except for the BTR for the equipment. Artillery - zero. Helicopters - Zero

      Where does this infa come from, can you enlighten what is on the five landing ships?
  15. Bugor
    Bugor 28 July 2012 14: 13
    +5
    you tested the restore function of your back
    Honestly, I do not understand how you managed to change the flag from American to German? Are you traveling or what?
    Arrangements exist between STATES, and not between governments. Remember (if you remember) Sevastopol. Baikonur, finally.
    So whatever the political situation INSIDE the state, the debts of the state itself do not depend on it. Even Soviet Russia, when it refused to pay the "tsarist" debts (although there were arguments), was subjected to obstruction. It is not for nothing that today's Russia has paid off the debts of the USSR. As they say, you have to answer for the market. No matter how hard and unpleasant it is ...
    1. dreamer
      dreamer 28 July 2012 14: 18
      +5
      Quote: Bugor
      Honestly, I do not understand how you managed to change the flag from American to German? Are you traveling or what?

      He uses the anonymizer, so he rides on a proxy located in different countries
      1. Russian-
        Russian- 29 July 2012 12: 07
        +1
        Quote: dreamer
        Uses anonymizer

        What is that? Is there a device?
  16. Bugor
    Bugor 28 July 2012 14: 23
    +1
    Understood then .... drinks
  17. Hey
    Hey 28 July 2012 14: 23
    -4
    But just read the exact opposite.
    MOSCOW, July 28 - RIA News. Russian troops may be evacuated from the Russian logistics point in Tartus (Syria) in the event of an attack on this facility, said the Commander-in-Chief of the Russian Navy, Vice Admiral Viktor Chirkov.

    “It’s not me who gives the command, it’s the Minister of Defense. The fact that we will be forced to evacuate the personnel that are there - then, of course, we will take them from there,” Chirkov said on the air of the Echo Moskvy radio station.

    So he answered the host’s question about what commands will be given to the personnel of the Russian MTO point in Tartus in case of an attack on this object, and then will Russian troops be evacuated from there.

    Chirkov said that for this an appropriate decision should be taken by the Supreme Commander-in-Chief and the political leadership of the Russian Federation.

    Link: http://ria.ru/arab_sy/20120728/711319288.html
    1. dreamer
      dreamer 28 July 2012 14: 27
      +4
      Quote: MUD
      But just read the exact opposite.

      Pay attention to this "Matzah's Ear" !!! wassat They always have a special way of submitting information.
      Chirkov said in on the air of the radio station "Echo of Moscow".
    2. Ivan Tarasov
      Ivan Tarasov 28 July 2012 14: 30
      +6
      After the information coverage of the war in Libya, there is no longer any reason to trust RIA Novosti.
      1. Hey
        Hey 28 July 2012 17: 58
        +1
        So the original source of the article can be trusted,
        although it does not indicate a specific person who has spoken out on this topic.
        Although "Vzglyad" immediately publishes the same information as RIA Novosti (about the possible evacuation of the base in the event of an attack) And refers to a specific person of the commander-in-chief of the Russian Navy, Vice-Admiral Viktor Chirkov.
        Sorry, but you do not have an objective approach.
        There will be a concrete statement by the official on the defense of believing, if without any talk and statements the attack will be repelled, I will believe, and I will be incredibly happy about it.
        In the meantime, I officially hear the opposite.
  18. Rodriques
    Rodriques 28 July 2012 14: 27
    +7
    Back, wait a moment. Where you run ahead of the engine, you will still have the opportunity to meet with Russian Ivan in battle. In the meantime, get ready.
    And we hoist the banner of victory over the defeated Capitol. Hooray!! smile
  19. Bugor
    Bugor 28 July 2012 14: 43
    -1
    But, honestly, I don’t understand why, without any arguments, back
    This is his point of view, let him develop and prove that this is bad? I also BURN MADE IN USSR, like many here. Let's listen, why should we just drive it into poop? Let him explain why he believes that "democratization of the whole world" is GOOD, and Russia's position is EVIL?

    you tested the restore function of your backanswer me !!!!
    1. Rodriques
      Rodriques 28 July 2012 14: 45
      +4
      Yes, he does not cite the essence and facts. He says that they killed President Amin, and why we did it he doesn’t care. True Anglo-Saxon Psychology.
      1. you tested the restore function of your back
        0
        Rodrigues,
        to you, that it doesn’t reach that you CANNOT KILL PRESIDENTS OF OTHER COUNTRIES ?!
    2. smile
      smile 28 July 2012 15: 22
      +5
      Bugor
      Cons he put as an assessment of the justice and reliability of his statements. In addition, quite a lot of people answered him reasonably. What is incomprehensible here? Moreover, no one prevents him from proving his case .... only he doesn’t argue - he understands that it is impossible to prove the unprovable where the brains of the people are completely washed by the most democratic and honest propaganda.
    3. you tested the restore function of your back
      -17
      Bugor
      ahah, I completely agree with you!
      After all, there are no arguments in return!
      I have provided the position of many Americans and what do I hear in response? The bastard himself is ... Funny, by golly
      On the contrary, I want to listen to Russian arguments and facts, try to understand the position, no, stupid minuscation with the prospect of being disconnected in terms of communication)
      1. smile
        smile 28 July 2012 16: 01
        +5
        you tested the restore function of your back
        It is strange that you do not notice the reasoning that actually make up all the articles on the topic under discussion .... or do you not read them? Do you need to retell everything twenty times so that the argumentation reaches you? But you can't see the reasoning from you ... don't you have time? okay - we'll wait, write in one comment your full vision of the situation, substantiate in more detail - then we'll talk in detail ... but for now your main argument is the word "ahah" ...
    4. Russian-
      Russian- 29 July 2012 17: 50
      +1
      Quote: Rodriques
      Yes, he doesn’t give facts and facts at all

      That's it. For such conversations, which he has - usually immediately ..... they break without talking.
      He is here - a brave man. And in life I’m more than sure - ...... complete. The terrorist was found.
  20. Waroc
    Waroc 28 July 2012 14: 49
    +4
    Let ours not have to do anything there - let there simply be teachings. But if there is a need and political will, then we are already there.

    Quote: back
    Is this the Russian admiral warning part of the Syrian people about his territory? A very bold statement ... And when the Assad regime collapses, what will this very boss say?


    But when it collapses, then we'll talk. But even in this case, such an outcome will not honor the main champions of democracy and human rights.

    Quote: back
    And you are not considering the possibility of terrorist attacks in Tartus against your sailors? Who will be responsible for the victims?


    The key word here, in my opinion, is yours. You change flags smartly, but you are definitely not from Russia - an imported troll!
    1. you tested the restore function of your back
      -18
      But still, in essence, my questions are what? )
  21. Jungar
    Jungar 28 July 2012 14: 50
    +8
    Funny back, he has jokes ..... And if he’s not joking, then we must, we must learn to think soberly yes, unless, of course, this is no longer a clinic. No one dares to attack the Russian base so easily if it is going to defend it. Some who are arrogantly used to the fact that Russia has ceased to defend itself, but in 2008 they received a sobering and understanding that the Lafa as a whole is over. So they poison with longing. I think that the information about Kamrani, Cuba and the Seychelles is not fiction and fantasy, it’s just not reasonable to trumpet about it now (and Vaska is listening, but eating). The sensible peoples in the world (I won’t list them for a long time, there are already a lot of them) now perfectly understand that without Russia, and only Russia, balance in the world is impossible, China has a different role, they are smart and do not want to step on the American rake, from which they themselves the Yankees were completely furious from continuous attacks.
    1. dreamer
      dreamer 28 July 2012 14: 56
      +2
      Quote: jungar
      I think that the information about Kamrani, Cuba and Seychelles is not fiction and fantasy, it’s just not reasonable to trumpet about it now

      I also think that after the presidential elections in the United States, a message was being prepared about the expansion of Russia's influence (now it is not profitable for Babamka to "drown"), but as always, a small pimple (Fleet's lump) could not restrain himself and gave it out, for which he is now raking, but crap his speeches tossed it for Russia. winked
    2. Victor
      Victor 28 July 2012 15: 16
      +5
      Quote: jungar
      I think that the information about Kamrani, Cuba and the Seychelles is not fiction and fantasy, it’s just not reasonable to trumpet about it now (and Vaska is listening, but eating).

      I watched the news at night. The President of Vietnam officially proposed opening a logistics point in Kamrani (not the base of course), but the PMTO is not a joke either. Cubans have long been asking to restore our base, so everything goes the way. The main thing is that the forces reappeared to put in place the presumptuous Western puppeteers.
    3. you tested the restore function of your back
      -19
      jungar
      when will the bombings and bombings of the Russian base be carried out, will you also laugh? What do you say to their mothers?
      1. Roman Skomorokhov
        Roman Skomorokhov 28 July 2012 16: 37
        +3
        And where did you get the idea that there will be explosions?
        1. dmitrijbyko
          dmitrijbyko 28 July 2012 19: 12
          +2
          He probably cooked them
      2. Victor
        Victor 28 July 2012 16: 41
        +7
        Oops, now this troll is Swede. Friends, members of the forum, what a joy. We have reached the level where "their real spyen" talks to us. Look how he disguises himself, only so that they don't track down and beat his ass.
        1. Alexander Romanov
          Alexander Romanov 28 July 2012 17: 30
          +6
          Quote: Victor
          Oops, now this troll is Swede. Friends, members of the forum, what a joy. We have reached the level where "their real spyen" talks to us

          Yes, it could be Mr. Navalny or someone from his entourage, such ..................... no one will even take a job close to America. The spy facts will provide -references, lying utterly, and this only asks questions-amateur fool
      3. Jungar
        Jungar 28 July 2012 17: 44
        +3
        Funny back! If at least one explosion is heard on the territory of the Russian military base, and God forbid with victims, the picture will become threatening for some. And if you do not understand this, apparently due to your American naivety, then those who are behind the "rebels" understand this very well. Or do you seriously believe that your rebels are independent? I say funny.
      4. Beck
        Beck 28 July 2012 17: 51
        -22
        Dasku.
        You will not be envied. They laid you on all sides. And most importantly, without logic and historical comparisons. Call names, insult. And this is the first sign of the absence of arguments. There is nothing to oppose so much.

        They say America has colonized other countries all her life. And on the modern map there is not a single state currently located in the form of a US colony. Exclusion Hawaii. But after WWII in Hawaii, the local population of SAMO held a referendum and asked for entry into the United States and became 50 states. The Great Russians talk about colonization and do not look back on the fact that Russia is a surviving fragment of the era of colonialism. From Uralia and to the east it grew only with a colonial seizure. Voices are heard about Alaska. But first, in 1867, they leased it out for 100 years, and in 1967 they renounced it worldwide in the person of Secretary General Brezhnev. And now what? But only colonial nostalgia. Well, there is not enough land for the Great Russians; the poor fit on the spot.

        Base in Tartus. This is a pier, two rusty cranes and two hangars seem. The Great Russians are ready to put an entire regiment for this, and if necessary, more.
        In my opinion, this Tartus and one life is not worth it. The Great Russians do not understand now the excitement of the mothers of these Russian guys. Even if it’s one life, but it’s the life of any son, a bloodsucker, whose dreams she made under her heart. So Russian mothers are worried in mortal fear, so that this one victim would not be her son. They do not want to put on the altar of bravado and for the sake of two cranes lay down the life of their only one. Similarly or roughly the same, an Afghan meat grinder began. They wanted to get rid easily lost 13000 thousand and thousands of people mutilated bodily and mentally. But for the Great Russians, this is not a story. Forward. Hooray. We will not regret anything for two taps. If they had such zeal, they would write a statement in order to replace the soldiers who are waiting for their mother on these landing ships themselves.

        It would be clear if some democratic country defended itself, where the president was elected by the people, where there are fundamental freedoms. So no protect the outspoken tyrant. Who received power from the hands of his father, a dictator. Where free elections do not take place. Where dissenters were imprisoned, as in the USSR. I understand the Russian troops who have entered troops in South Ossetia. Georgia, which advocated leaving the USSR, did not want to give freedom to Ossetians. There is a clear injustice and Georgia’s attempt to seize South Ossetia by force. And what should Russia do in Syria, for what ideals to lay down their lives? Only for the bloodthirsty dictator Assad to flood his country and pacify his people with fear. I don’t understand how, for some uncle of non-Russians, to lay down the lives of Russian guys. Let the Syrian people understand. He live on that earth. And the Great Russians do not mention that the Syrian people went out to peaceful demonstrations for half a year before taking up arms. And all these six months, Assad shot at his people. What kind of people can stand it. Tired of the Syrians dying for no reason. That Assad has little money. So that there would be no blood, he would have held free elections back then and there would be no war now with his own people. Would win in free elections would remain Assad in power. No, I’d leave to live wherever I want with my money. But no, he sheds the blood of his people only for the sake of power.

        And they will not understand this, the Great Russians and do not want to understand. Now they’ll let all the dogs down on you.
        1. Rodriques
          Rodriques 28 July 2012 17: 59
          +6
          Think narrowly. I don’t even want to argue. And it seems that you have already chewed everything in other branches and put it in your mouth, regarding the foreign policy interests of Russia and Syria in particular.
        2. Jungar
          Jungar 28 July 2012 18: 41
          +7
          Beck.
          You will not be envied either. The one who thinks that if he is in the minority is mistaken, this immediately makes him right and wise. The truth has no conventions, and no one knows its entire depth! Judging by the flag, you are an oriental person, like me, and your argument is like that of a western white. There are no perfectly right and perfectly guilty. You can not interfere in someone else's fight without offending anyone. But it is also impossible to shrug it off - sometimes the price is too high. And now the price, neither more nor less, is the security of our Motherland, with its mummies, little sons, bloodsuckers ... Yes! Off the coast of Syria, be they all wrong there. And only her bloodied little sons can protect her, there is nobody else to do.
          1. Beck
            Beck 28 July 2012 19: 03
            -16
            Yangaru.
            But I already said. What they defended in Afghanistan and what happened except for the thousands of killed. And once again I repeat that some uncle remained in power should not put their lives. Tomorrow in Africa, some cannibal will say that he is against America, that he too should lay down his life.
            And I did not say that I was right in everything, and did not say that I was wise. I expressed my point of view.
            And what a great price. That elsi in Syria will defeat the opposition of the Caucasus Mountains will collapse. Or in Russia, oil will run out. Or in the world community will cease to consider Russia a great country. Russia is great with Peter 1 and Catherine 2 and will remain for the foreseeable future. Or does someone seriously believe that the US will deploy its bases there? But the time of bases has passed. It takes a lot of money and political initiatives. With the modern development of science and technology, all bases fly in space. They are cheaper, more penetrating, more informative. Well, if, suddenly, God forbid, there will be trouble so China, Russia, the USA, England, France will have enough strategic weapons without placing additional funds on ground bases in other countries. What used to be placed on a large base is now placed on the frigate. And the United States has many such frigates. Therefore, the United States at one time refused an agreement on missile defense. They can detect and destroy ballistic missiles from these same frigates. How effective is another question.
            1. smile
              smile 28 July 2012 21: 11
              +4
              Beck
              By the way, here you remembered Bokass ... and why you didn’t remember that he was much more friendly with Western democracies, such as France. And he went there much more often. than to us ... Look, Sarkozyavka kissed Gaddafi’s hand ... and that something didn’t press the French down for their democracy - they were friends like nice ... get rid of stereotypes - democratic-undemocratic, remember this terminology only when necessary justify the next intervention in the internal affairs of that country whose economy and politics must be crushed for themselves, democratic ..
              And the time of the bases, unfortunately did not pass ... is this clearly demonstrated by the active actions of the United States in staking up its bases in Asia .... or, in your opinion, are they doing this at a loss or for establishing peace in the world?
        3. Ivan Tarasov
          Ivan Tarasov 28 July 2012 19: 18
          +6
          Beck
          Defending Syria, Russia defends itself.
          Here you speak for the victims that, allegedly, in defending Syria, Russia will suffer losses.
          However, these losses will be nothing in comparison with those losses that will arise after the transfer of controlled chaos to our territory (if you are interested in how this is done, I can state it).
          So, it’s better to die there, in Syria, protecting your home in Russia, than to allow the death of your home!
          1. Beck
            Beck 28 July 2012 20: 13
            -14
            Ivan Tarasov.
            How from Syria chaos spreads to Russia. This chaos must first go through Tuption. Who is Assad for the Russian people - NERUSSKY UNCLE, tyrant and dictator and may be a friend of the leadership of Russia. And to leave this uncle in power, you are ready to sacrifice. Russians know how to donate as they donated near Moscow and Stalingrad. But sacrifice for someone else’s power in a foreign country.
            1. Ivan Tarasov
              Ivan Tarasov 28 July 2012 21: 07
              +3
              After the fall of Syria, chaos will be transferred to the territory of the Central Asian countries (this we can already see on the example of Tajikistan).
              As soon as Syria falls, the oil price will immediately collapse (the fact that the oil price directly depends on the political situation in Syria has already been verified), the devaluation of the ruble and lowering of living standards will begin in Russia, against this background, the forces prepared in advance will begin to rock the situation. Militants will be transported from the territory of the Central Asian countries, the Volga region, and the whole Caucasus will catch fire. The civil war will begin.
              Russia has no choice, one might say - Syria is the last frontier.
              Further, the situation will no longer be possible to control.
              1. Mervik
                Mervik 28 July 2012 23: 50
                +1
                ... Syria is the last state before the attack on Iran. But after Iran (according to Amer’s dreams), it’s the border of Russia.
                1. Ivan Tarasov
                  Ivan Tarasov 29 July 2012 00: 17
                  0
                  Syria plays a key role primarily for the Russian Federation.
                  Some comrades say, why the hell to us this base.
                  If only the base ...
                  Not in the database.
                  The oil price is now impossible to bring down while Syria is holding on - that’s the trick!
                  Without a collapse in oil prices, plans to undermine the domestic political situation in the Russian Federation are hindered.
                  Iran - of course, they do not plan a land operation there, Iran will be bombed in the Stone Age, and they will wait until the power in Iran subsides. The time is coming for an exam, a serious exam for the Russian authorities.
                  Can she, having shown firmness, go all the way in this game.
                  1. Russian-
                    Russian- 29 July 2012 17: 53
                    +1
                    Quote: Ivan Tarasov
                    The time is coming for an exam, a serious exam for the Russian authorities.

                    And not only the authorities. At stake is the fate of all of Russia, of all Russians, and at the same time of all countries in the world. Their continued existence. Does not become Russia-EVERYTHING!
                    The world will become - completely belong to America. With all the consequences.
                    The Nazis, and so now, with envy in their graves, are already turning over. And if this happens - it’s generally ..... will be everything and everything.
          2. Russian-
            Russian- 29 July 2012 17: 51
            +1
            Quote: Ivan Tarasov
            Syria, Russia defends itself.

            Your interests - First of all. Totally agree with you.
        4. smile
          smile 28 July 2012 19: 32
          +14
          Beck
          Hello.
          First of all, I want to advise you to analyze all the comments of the tax ... what do we see? Entot comrade is limited to questions, not giving a single (well, just not a single) argument of his position. How to argue with him reasonably, if there is simply nothing to argue with?
          Now let's go over your arguments .... By the way, I don’t know, enlighten, if you really don’t like the Great Russians, then you yourself are great, who?
          Okay, let's go ...
          In principle, after the destruction, including with our help, of the colonial system of the most civilized and democratic countries, they, and especially the USA, switched to a more flexible system of taking under control the economies of underdeveloped countries. who could not defend their economic independence. Moreover, overthrowing the disobedient governments of the disobedient United States never chose the means - everything went into play. right up to the intervention ... I hope you don't have to prove it? You’re an intelligent person, you understand everything yourself .... just google and find a list of countries that have undergone the happiness of the invasion of a disinterested US and everything will become clear ... why isn’t you the policy of neocolonialism?
          A base in Tartus is not just a patch of territory - this is the last opportunity to be present in the Mediterranean ... Do I need to explain to you its military-political and economic significance? But do not you think that constant retreats and surrender of everything and everything in the 90s cost us tremendously expensive, including if we keep track of our lives? I know too well how terrible the war is, and how terrible the zinc is for parents ....... but if you follow your logic, you have to become a Jehovah's Witness ... then everything will become fine by itself, so what? And if you dragged here Agan, then do not remind you who there bred when we left there? Who then got in there? Or did we just have to fight them on our territory? Do not you find that it would cost us much more? I mean, first of all, people's lives.
          Probably the Great Russians became Great Russians, that in a critical situation they could really say to themselves in a critical situation - Go! Hooray! At the same time, we at the same time defended your fellow tribesmen and stopped your constant tribal massacre .... and here you are screwing up instead of gratitude .... is it possible to be so ungrateful? It is because of this ingratitude that your individual tribesmen provoke a negative reaction from my compatriots ....
          About Syria .... do you seriously think that "democratic" countries have the right to be friends with such strongholds of democracy as Saudi Arabia, stuck in the Middle Ages, where all parties are prohibited, where there is no constitution, where limbs are chopped off, women are stoned and crushed tanks any germs of dissent? Where, after all, it is legally forbidden to build Christian churches. And we have no right to support allies who are no less democratic than Turkey? And why? Is it because you forbade us, or is it because Clintons is broadcasting that way? By the way, how long has the president ruled there? Further continue?
          Apparently you just don’t want to understand us ... don’t want to understand - don’t demand that we understand you! Remember one thing - we don’t intend to play giveaways anymore, and if you want to behave in a certain way, then you should know that your attitude towards you will be appropriate ... dear, not great ...
          1. Beck
            Beck 28 July 2012 21: 14
            -8
            Smile.
            Hi! Great Russians, Great Chauvinists are those who swear, call names because of, in my opinion, not so understood signs of the greatness of the country. These great-chauvinists differ from the RUSSIANS in their indiscretion, rudeness, willingness to insult the opponent at any moment. According to your comments, you are not like that. I see that you disagree with many of mine. But you oppose me giving your facts and arguments. I agree with some arguments about your arguments, as it was in previous correspondence, with some not. You too. But we, after all, do not stoop to show Mother Kuzkin to everyone around RUSSIA-MATUS.
            Now my opinion on Afghanistan. There was no need for the USSR to get involved in this adventure. Well, if there were any concerns, then it would be necessary to strengthen the border and openly, defiantly deploy Soviet troops in Central Asia, pulling them out from other regions. At least tighter than the 40th army, and for the better, and 41, and absolutely 400. It would be enough over the edge to repel the enemies of thoughts, even in a dream, about a sip of water from the other bank of the Panj or Vakhsh. It would be cheaper. And there would be no maternal tears. And Afghanistan would not be one of the reasons for the collapse of the USSR.
            And I cannot agree that the USA has colonial desires. The white population of the United States, from the beginning of the settlement of America, these were people who deny the aristocracy, all kinds of titles and worship of titles and committed to personal freedom, so they left the royal states of Europe. And the USA, after the Second World War were, were opponents of colonialism. Example. America, after 1945, according to the Marshall plan for the restoration of the economies of Europe, allocated these states money. Holland began to use part of this money for the war
            in Indonesia, to return Indonesia to the colonial yoke of Holland. America immediately stopped subsidizing Holland. And she began to subsidize it only after Holland recognized the independence of Indonesia. And there are still no Dutch troops in Indonesia and there are no American bases either.
            Syria. If you are ready for NERUSSKY UNCLE to retain his dictatorial powers, please sacrifice the lives of Russian guys. Saudi Arabia is a non-free, Islamic country, and whoever wants to be friends with it may be friends. Once again Syria. Assad would not have brought his people to such a state, would not have shot at him. And Assad sat in his place and no one would touch him. While neither the United States nor the WEST was bleeding in Syria, they looked at Assad through their fingers. They only intervened when the people began to die. I’m sure that if protests against the authorities begin in Saudi Arabia tomorrow and the US begins to shoot at the people and the West will also condemn Arabia, as they condemn Syria now. Here below is my comment on how I feel about religions, read it. All religions are opium for the people. That Islam, that Christianity, horseradish radish is not sweeter.
            Now about more important for me. Each nation has its own fate, they slaughtered each other, whether the confessional wars were their fate. In the same way, I can say that the troops of the Golden Horde invaded Russia to stop the feudal feud between the princes. It’s funny. Of course it's funny. But you are seriously talking about this. This is nothing more than an excuse for colonization. All the colonial powers claimed this. We saved Africa from tribal enmity, we brought light, we brought laws. So, first you had to ask if they needed all this. I could cite the facts of the colonial policy of the Russian autocracy, but I will not. Since I consider all this a passed stage in civilization and I’m not going to incite anything. It was and was.

            Now the main thing. I DO NOT require you to understand. I have no right, like any other person, to demand something from another person. I expressed my point of view and everything. And how to understand it Smila, as a threat, or something - THEN KNOW THE ATTITUDE TO YOU WILL BE APPROPRIATE. What will beat me. Or attack Kazakhstan. With such statements from the standpoint of the great and hostility is inflamed

            And to know. security, territorial integrity of Kazakhstan is guaranteed in writing by Russia, the USA. China in exchange for Kazakhstan’s refusal to possess nuclear weapons and transfer them to Russia in 90 years
            1. Rodriques
              Rodriques 28 July 2012 22: 50
              +2
              Come on, tell tales to people about heroic Kazakhstan. I am well aware of the state of your borders and how your corrupt local kings make money on smuggling everything and everyone. In Russia, this also exists, but our bastards are being pinched harder and harder, so as they like to say here, sort it out first. Or does it bother you that Russia, unlike you, is adequately responsible to all who consider themselves masters of the world? Without Russia, Kazakhstan has no future, and I have great doubts that your chief will not fall under the United States. And lie down, blame yourself and your king.
              "Path to Europe" laughing Aren't you funny yourself, Beck?
              1. Roman Skomorokhov
                Roman Skomorokhov 28 July 2012 23: 10
                +5
                Let's be objective anyway.
                1. Kazakhstan is the only republic of the former USSR where everything is more or less normal. Kinks and filth are everywhere, and by the way, on any border. I can also tell you about Russian-Ukrainian. From the first person, so to speak.
                2. The policy of Kazakhstan is nevertheless different from the policy of other ... countries of that region. Explicitly in the pro-Russian side. You can talk a lot about what remains behind the scenes, but again this is absolutely not fundamental because of its unprovability.
                3. "The way to Europe" Kazakhstan needs the way Russia needs the way to Mecca, for example. For each - his own.
                4.
                Quote: Rodriques
                Unlike you, Russia responds with dignity to all who considered themselves masters of the world?

                Let's wait for the finals, and then we'll see ... Often it’s smarter to keep silent than to bear such as, for example, in the recent past, a high-ranking Russian was carrying ... the letter m, if that.
                5. Russia and Kazakhstan have long been connected with each other. Both by common affairs, and by blood. Do not forget about it. Do not spit on the past, it can respond well with the same. Only from the future.
                1. Rodriques
                  Rodriques 28 July 2012 23: 15
                  0
                  I agree, let's wait. I don’t spit in the direction of KZ, if you didn’t notice, in response to Beck’s post I could cover him with selective mat, but I didn’t. Especially the beginning of his post just touches, Temuchin, not otherwise laughing
                  1. Roman Skomorokhov
                    Roman Skomorokhov 29 July 2012 15: 56
                    -1
                    Quote: Rodriques
                    I do not spit in the direction of KZ, if you did not notice


                    We didn’t drink like a brudershaft and didn’t wallow in one ditch ... Let’s go without familiarities.

                    Quote: Rodriques
                    I could cover him with a mat, but I didn’t.


                    For the first here (if anything) it is customary to give a mustard plaster, for the second ... well, two options: either hang a medal yourself, or reading posts without a mat can draw the appropriate conclusions.
                    1. Rodriques
                      Rodriques 29 July 2012 22: 39
                      0
                      Nerd or what? smile Well then, sorry, touchy YOU are ours.
                      And, yes, I am already over 30, not a young man, and I will be with you all the same for YOU. Squeamish? smile
                      And, so you are also an administrator, does bullying mean? What are you going to do, banned? I won’t wash the floors, by status laughing laughing
                2. Beck
                  Beck 29 July 2012 09: 55
                  -2
                  Banshee.
                  Greetings. One of the few sensible comments. Woe-patriots will not understand in any way that we should live together forever and we need to look for common approaches, not private differences.
                  1. Roman Skomorokhov
                    Roman Skomorokhov 29 July 2012 15: 59
                    -1
                    Yeah thanks. Well, it's easier for me to look sensibly at some things:
                    1. I am not a Great Russian.
                    2. I am familiar with life in Kazakhstan, so I can fairly objectively talk about what people have in their skull. both in the private and in power.
                    3. There are enough excesses and all that, but where is it ideal?
                    4. I really think so.
              2. Beck
                Beck 30 July 2012 17: 34
                -3
                Rodriguez.
                Our borders are like yours with those pluses and the same minuses. And there are corrupt ones like you and the whole world. Kazakhstan and Russia are neighbors and of course we live together. Lies will not lie on the water with a pitchfork. Yes and far.
                Am I attributing all this only to Russia? And what a threat blame yourself. What blood wants, at least one person? That itchy hands to kill at least one person.
                Where are you in the modern world or in your den. Our presidents are creating a new geopolitical union on the site of the crumbling USSR. Now it has Russia, Kazakhstan, Belarus. Our presidents are working hard to get others involved. For this, one economic space, a customs union, a visa-free regime, an advisory council for the protection of common borders were created. Remotely, but the question is about introducing a single currency.

                You overslept everything in your den. And do not threaten, the neighbors do not. Or are you one of those crazy schenheads who, having worn in memory of their grandfathers, carry a swastika on their hand, changing it to Russian. It is like you will not have a place in the future territorial and economic space of our countries. The box is filled with all sorts of nonsense, and there too.
                1. Rodriques
                  Rodriques 30 July 2012 21: 50
                  0
                  No, I'm not a skinhead, a Tatar by nationality, I just perceive with humor all the attempts of the republics to look seriously without Russia, no offense.
                  1. Beck
                    Beck 31 July 2012 11: 55
                    -2
                    Rodriguez.
                    What an effort. Everyone lives as Russia can a great country without any reference. But some have a vanity mania.
            2. Roman Skomorokhov
              Roman Skomorokhov 28 July 2012 23: 28
              +3
              Beck and Smile ... respect and respect for both. Two opinions, reasonable and correct. It was a pleasure to read. if you both do not mind, then I would like to add a couple of comments.

              1. We are strong here ... that is, at home, behind the keyboard. Smart, patriotic, eloquent. With my little mind, I also agree with those who advocate that Russia have allies. Good Assad or not, this is a question that we can only discuss behind the scenes, nothing more. And they will solve everything there, absolutely disregarding our opinion. What, excuse me, gnawing at each other's throats?
              2. Such a small aspect. Yes, in an amicable way, the ally must be protected. And, preferably, with little blood. Question: is this "little blood" good if it is yours? It's very easy to say what kind of thing is there, send a regiment of marines, let them support the regime (don't care, good or bad, it's not about that), SO NECESSARY. Who needs it? To those who will go? Their family and friends? Is this our land? Neighbors, such as Belarus, Ukraine, Kazakhstan?
              In general, it would be my will, would send there those who are most yelling on this topic. So that there, in Syria, they would answer with a machine gun in their hands for the bazaar. But I perfectly understand that yelling is one thing, but fighting for Uncle Assad is another.
              3. To summarize. Putting ours there to have a base ... What, no more places? Yes, their car, the question of price in dollar or ruble equivalent. But it’s not worth paying with their lives, even in theory. Yes, Uncle Assad can and should be given rockets and everything else, let him understand there. Enough of our soldiers. As an example, the same islands in Greece have a cloud. But there is no money. Here is the solution to the question.
              1. Roman Skomorokhov
                Roman Skomorokhov 28 July 2012 23: 43
                +1
                So, Messrs. Tarasov and Rodriguez agree to go to Syria and defend this base there, apparently. Well, let's see ... laughing
                1. Rodriques
                  Rodriques 29 July 2012 00: 02
                  +7
                  I, a career officer, where they order, I’ll go there. Any questions?
                  1. Roman Skomorokhov
                    Roman Skomorokhov 29 July 2012 00: 36
                    +1
                    Now there is no. Everything is very clear.
                  2. FREGATENKAPITAN
                    FREGATENKAPITAN 29 July 2012 10: 12
                    +4
                    The answer of a real officer and a man ...... We also did not ask when they went out to sea at an alarm ......
                    But the officer (who unfortunately is no longer with us, Eternal memory to the hero!) ... He himself went to the aid of the Serb brothers in Yugoslavia ..., fought in South Ossetia and Abkhazia ......
                    ... And while there are such officers Russia will be alive!



                    Happy holiday sailors !!!!
                2. Ivan Tarasov
                  Ivan Tarasov 29 July 2012 00: 33
                  +2
                  If necessary, I’ll go.
                  Although I am a civilian, fighting for my homeland is the highest honor for a man.
                  1. Russian-
                    Russian- 29 July 2012 18: 00
                    +1
                    Quote: Ivan Tarasov
                    to fight for their homeland is the highest honor for a man

                    And everyone’s Holy Duty !!! Even if he did not serve in the army, anyway!
              2. smile
                smile 29 July 2012 15: 22
                0
                Banshee
                Yes, I agree, and I do not urge to actively participate in the fight. But how to protect your compatriots who are there? Oral censure? Moreover, our government seems to have a well-balanced approach to the situation there.
                And Beck is a normal man. And to Kazakhstan I have almost no complaints.
                I’m just tired of hearing what kind of colonialists we are and how we are to blame for everything.
                In addition, I hear this too often. once a couple of weeks I go to relatives in Lithuania for a couple of days, less often to Poland .... in addition, many migrants and refugees from the republics arrived in the Kaliningrad region, by the way, from Kazakhstan, perhaps most of all .... perhaps the highest general level of education, the most united and reached a higher position. Well they don’t keep silent ... and the stories are extremely monotonous, even if more than half can be attributed to emotions - it becomes sickening .... because of this, I am particularly offended by reasoning on a national topic.
                1. Roman Skomorokhov
                  Roman Skomorokhov 29 July 2012 16: 10
                  0
                  Quote: smile
                  But how to protect your compatriots who are there?


                  Indisputably necessary. But here’s a hitch: you (and I, by the way) are not a senator, not a deputy of the State Duma, and accordingly, it’s not enough dependent on our opinion. If they decide in the Kremlin, then the marines will go, if they decide to merge Assad (which is also an option), they will merge. And in our opinion, they will be, to put it mildly, sideways. This, on the one hand, is a shame, on the other hand, the reality of life.

                  Quote: smile
                  I’m just tired of hearing what kind of colonialists we are and how we are to blame for everything.


                  Don’t listen. if to give each such a horn - there will not be enough hands.

                  Quote: smile
                  for this reason I am particularly offended by discussions on a national theme.


                  For some reason, me too. I agree that not everything was smooth in Kazakhstan in relation to the Russians. Moreover, neighbors did not always behave decently. BUT: it happened, now you can't change it back. What was - what was. It makes full sense to live with the hope for tomorrow's bright future, and not yell at each other in the style of "give my toys and go out of my sandbox." This is life, it is more complex and multifaceted.
            3. nickname 1 and 2
              nickname 1 and 2 29 July 2012 02: 03
              +8
              Dear - BEK! Hello!
              And you are fundamentally wrong! Excuse me. So the women in the village are scandalous! All of you
              piled in a heap! In you - there is a rejection of everything that you know about Russians! History, as you know, does not understand and does not accept from the syllabic mood!
              Let's drop your questions to Afghanistan! (Now, if ....) What is it about you ---- ((((Great Russians, Great-chauvinists ... ..))) - why are you so hurt that you hung such labels ????
              Then --- ((((fears that it would be necessary to strengthen the border and openly, defiantly deploy the Soviet troops in Central Asia, pulling them out of other regions. At least the same army 40, and for Pushcha and 41, and absolutely 400. It would be enough over the edge to discourage the enemies of thoughts, ---))))) - but what have WE to do with the forum users? Are we = WERE at the POLITBURO? Or were in the Central Committee -? There were intelligence data -! Decisions were made on them = WE ARE HERE AND WHY? Just because we live in Russia? Why are you presenting to us? What should we DRAW PRESENTS TO THE KAZAKHSTAN MANUAL AND PRESENT THIS TO YOU - BEKU -?
              Further ---- (((((And I cannot agree that the USA has colonial desires. The white population of the USA ----)))) - And you count our money: google How many billion - Russia FORGIVED the countries of the WORLD! And why are you - SUCH DEFENDER of the USA - wanted? That's the trick ---- (((And there are still no Dutch troops in Indonesia and there are no American bases either.))))) ---- well, not what IM there to catch! Not on the WAY!
              And as soon as ... .. so there WILL BE !!!
              That's where --- ((((NERUSSKY UNCLE)))) ----- THIS is simple ... .. which side to us?
              And here --- ((((I would not have brought Assad to such a state, I would not shoot at him.))))) ------ And you were there? Where such confidence ? - well, let's say GADDAFI - you will study the question, google, well, old TV footage, = DISSATISFIED no more than here in Russia or in Kazakhstan (or in Kazakhstan they DO NOT have - oh, oh!) No brainer - abandoned militants, they muddied OPPOSITION = and for the loot you can always HIT shit, and ...: - Gaddafi - go away!
              (By the way - you don’t like SILENCE in Kazakhstan ???? They will come And to you ... !!! And I won’t even spit, and God forbid I won’t say it! I’ll say - get ready - they won’t take long to wait!)
              Well then ---- ((((So you first had to ask if they needed all this.))) ----- Ho-HO! And we needed what they did to the USSR? And with other countries? Why are you presenting to us these, and WHITE them BEAUTIFUL? How strange?
              By the way = Send to you from the link - WHAT HAPPENS IN THE USA? How many are TAT dissatisfied? Why do not you set them to show?
              Further --- ((((I could cite the facts of the colonial policy of the Russian autocracy, but I won’t.)))) ----- And will we answer for Ivan the Terrible ??? For Peter 1 -? For Nicholas -? For Alexander -?
              A = WHO IS WHITE AND FURTHER? USA -? And why didn’t they take us to NATO? Why is missile defense at the very borders? Why NATO - not fulfilling oaths - will not expand to the borders of Russia? Find something to cover? And you were present at these TIPS how to behave to us? Have you heard when they TOLD US --- (((do what they say to you! You’re unarmed, we’ll erase your Russia!)))) ---- We had a lot of smart people (like Kozyrev) - we know that in the end!
              Not honestly so! If undertooks to do then EVERYTHING SHOULD BE EQUAL, in fairness! WHITE and Fluffy - DOES NOT HAPPEN!
              Further --- ((((Now the main thing.)))) ---- Well, to this -? -? -? -? -? -? -? -? -? -? Do you know the first forum? You are on other forums of social sites look THERE SUCH ACCORDING !!!!!!!!!!!! There is such a REVERSE, checkmate, ........ Etc. etc.
              There Pu and Zhi and Zyu and all who would not get into the language - EVERYTHING is greasy smeared !!!!!!!!
              So, calm down whoever did not even think of touching the hair with you !!!
              And by the way, here is your hamilion-like friend (although what kind of friend is he to you, you just CHOOSE THE MOMENT to tell your sore point) - HE - in vain - is masked !!!
              If I’m not mistaken, you are Russian - just live in Kazakhstan and consider Kazakhstan yours? So? If you are KAZAKH! - Why so? I have been to Petropavlovsk-Kazakhstan! Served with a Kazakh! People as a people! There are enough bad everywhere! And do your best in your eye not to look at the log !!! THEY EVERYWHERE THEIR NOSE POP! And they will get to Kazakhstan! (that’s what happened at the border with you - THIS IS THE FIRST SIGNALS. I was at the forum of the newspaper NOVKAZAKHSTAN and I had a very good opinion about those who visited. It was discussed whether he could or could not have killed — the Russian border guard, his colleagues. Very sensible statements of the Kazakhs were, I DO NOT HANDLE, it surprised and delighted me! On the last topic, I immediately took your position.)
              God grant that peace on the land of Kazakhstan! Health to you, everyone!
              1. nickname 1 and 2
                nickname 1 and 2 29 July 2012 09: 23
                +5
                Dear BEK!
                I want to add because it didn’t fully answer: we Russians do not allow other nationalities to realize their potential? In Russia, what, everyone, not Russians work as janitors, and in other places not prestigious? Or should we do this? Or should we say: RESPONSIBLE for everything - to us in RUSSIAN and therefore - all the others as general laborers, soldiers, convoys, auxiliary troops, etc.? Who are we holding?
                And you - can you say the same? Do you have Russian freedom in Kazakhstan? Do you know that Russians in other former republics of the USSR are “pressed” to put it mildly?
                Have you noticed that we don’t say that? We are Russians! We say = WE ARE RUSSIANS!
                On one site on the forum, RUSSIANS and Caucasians long but fiercely butted. Very evil. And at the end, Caucasians wrote - ((((Okay, do not be offended! It's just –BAZAR! If there is a WAR - anyway, WE NEAR YOU
                we will fight! )))) -----
                So - you expressed your point of view, I have my own vision of IT! And then fight for our children, HANDS ----------- NEAR! ANSWER YOURSELF: Will Russia and Kazakhstan fight against each other? (I’m sure - NO!)
                And will our peoples fight NEARBY? (I'm sure - YES!)
                And one more thing: YOU KNOW SUCH A NATIONALITY, EXCEPT RUSSIANS, WHICH ALLOWS OTHERS (YES AND MYSELF ABOUT YOURSELF) to poke fun, laugh, criticize, call fools etc. --- ???
                WHY DO YOU DO NOT consider us entitled, sometimes Proud of yourself, and zealously defend YOUR HONOR (and the honor of all RUSSIANS) ????
                ALL happy Navy Day !!!!!!!!!
                1. survivor
                  survivor 29 July 2012 09: 42
                  +1
                  I’ll add on my own, just look at the profiles of forum users on the site. there are not only Russians, but also Ukrainians, Kazakhs, whoever is not there, but the thoughts and goals are the same))). USSR damn it !!
                2. Beck
                  Beck 29 July 2012 11: 20
                  -4
                  NIKU and SMILE.
                  Actually, I'm tired of voicing my main position. You in your comments then agree with something. Then all of a sudden you don’t accept anything. Smila still begins to threaten Kazakhstan. For the last time I will express my common position.

                  Russia is a great country. Both in its glorious history, and in its spaces, and in the presence of the Russian people who created such a state. Russia is a great country along with the USA, China, France, England, India, Japan. Kazakhstan is not included in this chill. Annoyed, okay. Who's guilty? (favorite Russian question). Blame, from a historical perspective, not Russia, not China, not the USA, not Uzbekistan, not the Seychelles. We ourselves are to blame and our historical leaders, I mean the khans and sultans, their shortsightedness.

                  Russia is a great country, but not the first in today's world. Who's guilty? In the minds of the woe of the patriots, the United States, the West, the Syrian opposition, and everything that does not move toward Russia are to blame. Woe to the patriots do not ask why the United States and the West are strong and have more weighty authority. The answer lies only in the economy. Without a powerful economy, there is no strong army, no political weight, no influence. What needs to be done to make the army the most powerful, the influence the most influential? Do not blame empty everything western. And raise your economy. Russia will step over the US economy and will automatically be the best army in Russia. How to raise the economy? And do not invent your own national paths. This takes a lot of time and leads to even greater lag. Everything is old in this world. It is necessary to study and take the best from the west. Bring it to life. And Russia will be the first good, as it is not in any other country, it has all the prerequisites for this - vast expanses, raw materials, the Russian people who have proved their vitality in the actions of history.

                  Woe-patriots, their essence, is envy. Why are they the first, not us. Why do they have the best combat aircraft, and not Unas. Why do they live better, not us, etc. etc. If this is white envy, people begin to do everything, and above all in the economy, in order to equalize, and then become the first. If this is black envy, then dirty tricks begin here. They are so, and we are like that, and why, and in order to put filthy amers in your pocket. They are all the same, and we are stomping, and why, and so that choking amers. They are there, and we are from there, and why, and so that the bastards stumbled.

                  America dominates this period only with its economic power, everything else flows from here. And America does not seek colonization, the imposition of its regimes, etc. She is with the West for justice. So that there are no bloodthirsty dictators, such as Hussein, Gaddafi, Assad. They blew up international airplanes, captured neighboring small countries, shot at their own people, poisoned them with chemical weapons like Hussein. What the United States and Russia lost or lost from the removal of Gaddafi. Both of them did not directly intervene in the armed conflict. The United States took over the sympathy of the Arab world. Russia has lost. Now in Libya, in the parliamentary elections, it was not the Islamists who won, but the liberals. And what to expect from them good for Russia which supported
                  Gaddafi. This is an elementary foresight of the Russian leadership. If the opposition wins in Syria. Russia will lose all its influence in the Arab world, as it lost forever in Egypt, tacitly supporting Mubarak.

                  Now about oil as a political factor. Woe to the patriots everywhere and everywhere shout that the United States is doing all its business for the sake of oil. Captured Iraq to pump oil from there. Yes, the United States freed Iraq from the dictator. But they buy oil from current Iraq for currency. They buy everywhere and nowhere just do not shake themselves. In addition, it must be borne in mind that they satisfy 50% of their oil needs in Venezuela, despite the extravagance of their president. Shipping costs are not comparable. Either from the Strait of Hormuz to carry, or from Venezuela.

                  Kazakhstan and Russia are neighbors, we have nowhere to move. And in order not to be in the past, we should live together in the future. Of all the CIS countries, who is closest to Russia, with whom of these countries there was no conflict only Kazakhstan. The Russian leadership is struggling to gather the former Soviet republics in the new geopolitical union. But SMILE threatens. And only from disagreement with me all over Kazakhstan. See punish.

                  Last thing. All the time I tried to soften the names of those unreasonable ones who turn GREATNESS of the GREAT country of RUSSIA into a booth by their absurd cries. Now I will call them. In my understanding, the unfortunate patriots are not Great Russians, they are only truly Russian chauvinists. Who are these chauvinists? These are those who forget about their grandfathers wear on their sleeves a fascist swastika converted to Russian fashion. These are the gangs of skinheads who beat and kill all non-Russians, not only Tajiks and Caucasians, but also representatives of other nationalities. In my opinion, it is the chauvinists who post the most awkward posts on this site. Here is an example.

                  Mervik.
                  I propose in general, now, right now, to shandarahnat with all the salvos, all the weapons, all the arsenal in the United States. Directly so, according to the kumpol, not expected !!! And I’m sure our missile defense system will cope with their prudent weapon! I'm even sure that the amers instantly capitulate. Because YOU LINKED !!!

                  It was because of the chauvinists that gangs of skanheads arose. Look, such gangs arose only in Russia. There are no beating people on the streets of Kazakhstan, Armenia, Belarus, Moldova and other gangs only on the basis of nationality. There are problems, but they cannot be solved in this way.

                  Once again, I’m not worth NERUSSKY UNCLE ASAD to save his dictatorial power not a single life of a Russian guy, not a single tear of a Russian mother.

                  I won’t explain my general position more and more
                  1. nickname 1 and 2
                    nickname 1 and 2 29 July 2012 15: 15
                    0
                    Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
                    If you want to close your mouth, or else the birds fly, aiming bombing is carried out and the sweatheads grow in you!
                    You have said last year that the handmaids in the mouth should be remembered. Or maybe in Ro-o-o-te? Salaka! who are you tweaking? So I said in Roteeeee ...
                    Have a little more price here ...
                  2. smile
                    smile 29 July 2012 15: 26
                    +1
                    Beck
                    I read the comment - I won’t answer, that's all. your position is clear. But please read my comment on your comment yesterday, okay?
                    By the way, it is very strange that you took my words as a threat ... it causes bewilderment and sadness. I'm serious.
                3. Roman Skomorokhov
                  Roman Skomorokhov 29 July 2012 16: 17
                  0
                  Nick, you're really great. Everything is very fair. Indeed, what is the point of making claims from a forum participant to the state? What kind of people are sitting in our power, and what?
                  The state is the state, rulers are rulers, and they are not to sit in trenches. In the trenches, do not, of course, bring us to hang around. But there already will not care who is of what nationality, if for a common cause.
                  I wrote here more than a year ago that I would not mind if the Kazakhs covered my back. Because they served, yes. And the cockroaches in their head are about the size of a rat, but on the other hand, as reliable as Kalash. It's my opinion.
                  And I know for sure that in the event of a global boom, those who argue with us here will go with us (hopefully).
                  1. Beck
                    Beck 30 July 2012 13: 24
                    -3
                    Banshee.
                    Hey. I seem to you that I wrote with approval. Then I came across yours that you are tired of words about colonialism of Russia. If this applies to me I answer.
                    I did not write this in the first person, blaming Russia for something. For me, all this is a passed stage of history. I answered this in response to the great-chauvinists who scream here about hundreds of thousands of expelled Russians from their original Russian lands and that these lands, north of Kazakhstan, must be annexed to Russia. Here on this nonsense I just brought the facts of history.
                    Yes, at 90 at the household level there, something was rustling, but this ended.
                    My point of view. There was once a Golden Horde, then the Russian Empire, and these are historically passed stages. And that because of this, now we gnaw another friend's throats and leave our children orphans. All the same, we live side by side. And I am sure that when attacking from outside, we also fight side by side and back to back.
            4. FREGATENKAPITAN
              FREGATENKAPITAN 29 July 2012 10: 27
              +2
              .... And I can not agree that the United States has a colonial urge. The white population of the United States, from the beginning of the settlement of America, these were people who denied the aristocracy, all kinds of titles and worship of titles and committed to personal freedom, so they left ...
              In bent! But the Negroes were imported from philanthropy ... so that they were not bored in Africa? ....
              And about the fact that in the United States the usual aristocracy was replaced by the oligarchic, probably not in the know ...
              Read the story .... the Irish, Italians, Poles, Russians, etc., drove en masse into the United States. (by the way, criminals running away from justice in masses and of various stripes, losers of all stripes ...) ... hoping to get land which was not enough on the continent, and in the states it was abundant .....

              No need to judge by Hollywood films about the development of the states ....

              And by the way, what is so worried about Kazakhstan? American-style paranoia? ... "Russian tanks on the streets of New Orc ............... and out the window .... ???
            5. smile
              smile 29 July 2012 15: 05
              +2
              Beck
              Hello again.
              Thank you for the compliment, but I’m also rude ... just rude only to someone who, in my opinion, behaves the same ..
              I will not argue about Afghanistan - the amount of information on the topic is large, but it speaks of different things, just as the experts and direct participants have different opinions on both sides, it is difficult to come to an unequivocal opinion.
              About the USA. In my opinion, initially the colonies moved to the American colonies were not those who were fed up with class inequality, but adventurers and fast-lovers of all stripes. This is only later, around the middle of the 19th century, all kinds of refugees and people ran there. who wanted to get land to work on it ....
              Further, the USA really also contributed to the fact that the largest colonial powers collapsed, but the reason is that they did it only because they also wanted to get to the cake ... reason in order not to fight Europeans with them it was enough, and they simply took the path of economic enslavement and control of the economy and resources of those countries that could not defend themselves. The process is still ongoing, we are all witnesses to this. In this case, it was not always necessary to deploy military bases in these countries. And in some cases it was, but for a number of reasons they did not succeed .... but this does not mean that there was no such desire.
              Syria. I believe that if Assad ate alive in the squares of the opposition, but at the same time was an obedient puppet of the United States, no one would have remembered that he trampled on democracy ... just he would have been persistently advised to indulge in his hobby non-publicly ... You, by the way , does not it bother that the wave of revolutions swept through the countries with the most developed economies, the greatest material well-being of the population and .... still the most democratic against the background of other African countries? And the blood flowed there only at a strictly verified moment ... and strangely at the same time ... by the way, when such pitiful and timid attempts to demonstrate in Qatar arose. Saudi troops were instantly brought in there, which, together with the local security forces, crushed them with armored vehicles (literally) in the bud. And that someone is calling on them to bomb, supplying the opposition with weapons, training demonstrators in military camps along the border? Silence .... Don't you think this is no accident? By the way, tell me, you do not like blood so much ... this is commendable, but then how can you relate to assistance in restoring democracy in Iraq, Libya, if as a result, in a couple of three years, dozens of people die, and in other places and in hundreds of times more than for several decades of "dictatorship", by the way, the people and the state are thus reduced to a beggarly state and the main resources are transferred under the control of the "liberators"? How can you approve of that with your principles? By the way, can you explain what the 12-strong American-European military contingent is doing in free Libya?
              Regarding the rationale for the invasion of the Horde - offset! :))))
              If you give me an example of at least one colonial country, which, as Russia developed the acquired territories at its own expense, rather than robbing them mercilessly, granted the locals the same rights as the rest, equalized the aristocracy with their own (you have not met, by chance, the Indian Rajah or leader of an African tribe in the House of Lords?), it gave very serious privileges to the local in comparison with the main population (even serfdom was not there), then I will not have questions for you. In the meantime - there is!
              I'm not saying that. that most of the land was taken under wing after repeated requests from local rulers who feared for the very existence of their peoples. Sometimes these requests were streamed to us for a century ....
              And in Africa, the colonialists brought laws. according to which a white man is god, black is a thing., on the contrary, strife was strongly encouraged - during the internecine wars, Negroes captured prisoners, who were immediately joyfully dragged to sell slaves to whites ... and everyone is happy .... the population of Africa was almost reduced half, large settlements have fallen into decay, the remains of cultural heritage are completely destroyed ..... really your language will turn to say. that we also behaved in you? You look at Africa now - this is the result of both colonialism and neocolonialism. Compare with your country ...... And do not remember. about the fact that there were friction. and uprisings, mainly inspired from outside .... in Russia at the same time there were also riots and uprisings - and more than you ...
              Now about the main thing. Since you are a normal person, I will answer normally. My words that hurt you are not a threat - this is a statement. In all the outlying republics of the Russians, they started beating (both figuratively and literally) quite a while ago. Currently, the idea that the Russian colonialists are to blame for everything is being introduced into the public consciousness of your countries from above ... look at your own history books ..... that's what. how not kindling? At the same time, at present you simply have nothing to complain about Russia, except that we really do not like that our compatriots are treated like Indians ....
              God have mercy, what conclusions have you made .... well, you are not a stupid person ... well, where did you get that someone is going to attack you ... damn it, beat .... please do not mention more similar statements ... they ... well, okay, yes?
              I will not forget to insert a hairpin - no USA will fight for you, do not believe them, they almost always throw their allies, if it is likely that they will be hurt very much ....
              1. Roman Skomorokhov
                Roman Skomorokhov 29 July 2012 16: 24
                +3
                Wow!!!
                Quote: smile
                In all the outlying republics of Russians, they started beating (both figuratively and literally) quite a while ago.


                Moreover, I experienced it in my own skin. They started in Kazakhstan before everyone else. But in fairness, I note that they came to their senses very quickly too.

                Quote: smile
                that someone is going to attack you .... damn it, beat .... please do not mention more similar statements ... they ... well, of course, yes?


                Definitely not Russia. Moreover, even if someone goes for the Kazakhs to whip, not amers for sure.

                Quote: smile
                no US will fight for you, do not believe them, they almost always throw their allies, if there is a chance that they will be hurt very much ...


                Well, we are not lambs either, yes, but here I completely agree with you.
                1. smile
                  smile 29 July 2012 18: 48
                  +1
                  Banshee
                  And why - wow ..... sad everything .... here! I did not know, and I doubt that they started in Kazakhstan before everyone .....
                  Regarding the second - I agree, up to personal participation .....
                  of the third .... not the lambs, yes .... but we are trying (maybe I won’t comment on our ugly behavior in Libya .... otherwise I don’t want to say a lot of things, we’ll pour mud on us)
              2. Beck
                Beck 30 July 2012 14: 04
                -2
                Smile.
                Assad and tah "ate" those who disagree. And America and the West did not intervene because if the people of Syria want to be devoured, then it is not worth the life and one soldier of the West. When the Syrian people did not want to be devoured and went to the demonstrations and Assad started shooting at them. here the principle of human justice worked, because it became clear that the Syrians did not want to be cattle.
                And how can you protect Qadaffi, Assad, Hussein. All of them are bloody dictators who oppressed their peoples. Until the peoples opposed their dictators, the West was silent. Be silent yourself, know to live like a kitten. That did not interfere. And when the nations rebelled, only then they helped.

                The main thing. I don’t know how in other republics, but judging by the news and there, on a more political background than at the level of scanheads in Russia. And in Kazakhstan today, if there is talk, then in the kitchen and at the household level. Petty bourgeoisie is everywhere and with us they do not make the weather. From above, the idea is implanting in us that we must live in friendship with Russia. For this, the Collective Security Treaty Organization, the Shanghai Circle, the Common Customs Space, and visa-free visits were created.

                And what did I find fault with. In our government, in our institute of governorship, about 25% of the Slavs. In our schools, 70% of teaching is in Russian. In our state institutions, half of the documentation is in Russian. In public transport, half-and-half mix of Russian and Kazakh speech. We have a lot of mixed marriages. For example, my wife is Russian. In cities, some part of the indigenous youth population does not speak Kazakh. And these are all "Indians".
                I have that the children are a cross between the Indians. They are a cross between Turks and Slavs. We all Kazakhs speak Russian. And you can name at least one village in Russia where teaching at school is conducted in the Kazakh language. Although there are about a million Kazakhs in Russia. It’s to me that, according to your words, you should drive your wife and her relatives, and at the same time her children, into the reservation.

                And we have no thoughts about the United States. There is a contract. And if one of the powers of China, Russia or the United States wants something wrong. Then the other two will stop referring to the contract. And the contract is a piece of paper, but it always obliges to something.

                And now about what. The idiots of the great-chauvinists can be understood not only from their minds, but from the chamber itself. You write under the cassock of an enlightened person. and write such a DRUM. Those crazy are taking it at face value. That's it you are the incendiary. You don’t know the situation, you don’t know the realities, but you kindle your imaginary inventions. If these are your real thoughts then do not write to me. With such I have nothing to talk about
                1. Cynic
                  Cynic 30 July 2012 16: 56
                  +1
                  Quote: Beck
                  And you can name at least one village in Russia where teaching at the school is conducted in the Kazakh language.

                  And weakly by the tag
                  Teaching Kazakh in elementary school
                  strain the search engine?
                  Quote: Beck
                  the principle of human justice has worked

                  Allah forbid you and your state to receive an invoice based on human justice.
            6. Russian-
              Russian- 29 July 2012 17: 57
              +1
              Quote: Beck
              territorial integrity of Kazakhstan is guaranteed in writing

              How naive you are however. A case not only just stepped out of the steppe?
              These written "guarantees" will not become Russia, they can only be ... wiped. All of them will not give a damn about who promised you there, when and what.
              And the Americans - in the first place!
              You, in Kazakhstan, have 90% of the world's uranium reserves! Think about it - 650.000 tons of uranium - the Americans will definitely not be hindered, because they have practically NO HERE - very little - they even buy it sort of.
              As long as there is Russia and China, nobody really Dares to touch you. We will not be - you HANA !!! - and right away.
      5. TAGIR
        TAGIR 28 July 2012 21: 58
        +5
        Soldiers and officers are not collective farmers. They have another profession, to defend their homeland. America, fighting with others, primarily ensures its economic interests by expanding the sales markets of its candy wrappers in exchange for the goods it needs. Russia also wants to sell its goods for your candy wrappers, because it wants to exchange them for the technology and equipment our people need to live in peace. And in Russia they do not tolerate injustice and do not like to offend the weak
        1. Russian-
          Russian- 29 July 2012 18: 02
          +1
          Quote: TAGIR
          And in Russia they do not tolerate injustice and do not like to offend the weak

          That's for sure. The Russian people have always been fair. And the Americans themselves called us the most rebellious nation on Earth.
  22. Trapperxnumx
    Trapperxnumx 28 July 2012 15: 00
    +3
    Pleasant news and nice to read !!!!!!!!!
  23. Konstantm
    Konstantm 28 July 2012 15: 03
    +9
    And in general, all Orthodox Happy Baptism of Rus !!!!
    1. Odessa
      Odessa 28 July 2012 15: 25
      +17
      Konstantm,
      And in general, all Orthodox On the Day of the Baptism of Russia !!!!

      I join with congratulations!
      1. smile
        smile 28 July 2012 15: 53
        +5
        Odessa
        Huge boules Ester! Thanks for the compliments! And to you the same, in the same place! :))))) You, as the property of our site, simply must be happy and healthy! :)))))
        1. Odessa
          Odessa 28 July 2012 16: 33
          +5
          smile,
          You, as the property of our site, simply must be happy and healthy! :)))))

          I’m healthy as a cow, which is what I wish for everyone! But no one called me the property of the site yet! good laughing
          1. smile
            smile 28 July 2012 21: 13
            +3
            Odessa
            In someone who says that you are not a valuable acquisition of the site, I personally will throw a stone! :)))))
            1. Odessa
              Odessa 28 July 2012 22: 43
              +3
              smile,
              In someone who says that you are not a valuable acquisition of the site, I personally will throw a stone! :)))))

              Prediction stone? Maybe a grenade is better? laughing
              1. smile
                smile 28 July 2012 23: 27
                +2
                Odessa girl (
                You see - there are hardly many of these, therefore there will be enough bricks from them .... but if you insist - at least I will throw myself (I have a fairly firm head)! :)))))
                1. Odessa
                  Odessa 29 July 2012 00: 02
                  +3
                  smile,
                  You see - there are hardly many of them, so there will be enough brick from them

                  Why scatter building materials? laughing There is no online option on the Internet, to throw a brick, write a slap or give a tambourine. Understand that trolls are divided into categories that have stones, sawdust, cotton wool, etc. instead of brains.
                  You don’t need to be likened to them, and rush at them, dodge and ignore them! Otherwise, the comments will go like a cat with a cock — someone scratches, and someone pecks.
                  1. smile
                    smile 29 July 2012 03: 10
                    +2
                    Odessa
                    You know, probably, my alleged cocky policies are influenced by factors that I can confirm even with third-party comments from people I respect:
                    So, even on this branch, where I seemed to have dispersed, a couple of people worthy of respect (besides you) said to me - well, don’t waste gunpowder on them ...... but I’m closer to Esaul’s position - they have to be torn to internal organs so that it would be disgraceful, and that their propaganda with fur outward would discredit themselves with their presence ....... further, despite the use of exclamation points, I abuse them like a three-day corpse ... I have no emotions in this case (the only case when I was unbalanced was a scolding with an Indian (damn, I forgot his exact nickname ... when I checked the text I remembered - Zulus!), who really raped me verbally .... the argument based on the results of the entire skirmish was so-so) - the enemy is the enemy, what else can be expected from her? She has such a job ....... If you, a passing one, or Asket, Esaul or Banshi came running over me (and the list is not limited to this, I was happy to find a significant number of new people without stars who surpass me in knowledge. at least in certain areas .... well, thank God! Our regiment arrived!) - it would really affect me ...... and so - this is called suppression of a firing point ..... but not defeat, to unfortunately.
                    By the way, about - do not be like - me here the banshee quite professionally screwed me up, zarrrraza - more the position of the moderator - obliges, for bad words, like - "us ... from a high bell tower!" ... and convinced that it is more important - I will not be like, I am switching to normal language (damn, they haven't put me in my place for a long time ... the most offensive is justified!)
                    And as for dodging ........ Esther, I am not a member of regular army formations. .... why do you think some of my friends sometimes invite me to imitate a knife fight for their subordinates? .... they should be put down, but I suppose it’s clear why I almost always agree ..? :))))) By the way, last year one excessively active young man from the special forces of the Marine Corps knocked out a tooth with a rubber knife to me .... in a real battle - he would have killed .... zarrrraza ..... well done! But then he still did not get poured! .... :))))))
                    So that you don’t think that I’m just so enthralled with scandals ..... they need to be crushed. to the point that they themselves would understand. that they are wrong .... although this is utopia ....
                    Okay, I’ve blabbed something .... I can bring an excuse - I’m not naval .... but my dad came to visit my neighbor, who served as a border guard in the inspection group in the Far East ...... I counted an honor to receive such a guest .... here! :))))))))))
                    Thank you for the advice - they are really correct and adequate .... (and it's nice. That you advise me at all!) .... but the trouble is that I am up-to-date and ..... I hope also adequate .... .. :)))))) With the holidays - there were just two gathered on the pairing of days !!!! :))))
                    1. Russian-
                      Russian- 29 July 2012 12: 08
                      +2
                      Quote: smile
                      they must be torn to the internal organs

                      So tough! Well, right!
                    2. Odessa
                      Odessa 29 July 2012 16: 49
                      +2
                      smile,
                      they must be crushed. to the point that they themselves would understand. that they are wrong .... although this is utopia ....

                      So, what am I saying to you? What is the point of the dispute? To convince a person expressing the opposite point of view of yours, I will ultimately agree with yours. With your facts and evidence cited. the issue to be solved, then you should agree with him, then he convinced you, and after thinking and analyzing all his facts, you understand that he is right and accept his point of view. This is called a constructive argument, i.e. not idle talk and waste of time.At the expense
                      they must be torn to the internal organs

                      I don’t like to give advice if they don’t ask about them, but I’ll tell you, Smiley, never argue with an idiot! Be smarter, otherwise you will only spend time on it, and the result will be zero. Anyway, everyone will remain unconvinced. See with who are you talking to! That's what I had in mind, dodge it!
                      1. smile
                        smile 29 July 2012 23: 41
                        +2
                        Odessa girl (
                        Thank you!
                        So we have something to argue with you about ?.
                        As you advised, I won’t speak with any more bad poop today!
                        Damn, I have to ask for forgiveness for yesterday's verbiage ........ I really messed up yesterday ..... damn .... shame! :))))
                        Although you didn’t advise, but now I’ll either start to kick out or lay down the guests - let them decide for themselves ...
                        And the last - and I don’t care about the result of my children's competitions with people who consider themselves enemies of my people .... if I can shut up, well, well .... I will not shut up - so I will distract myself .... here! Well, that’s it ... men - goodbye, I went to sleep! see you in a week! Odessa woman. but you really impressed me ..! :)))))))))
                      2. Odessa
                        Odessa 29 July 2012 23: 57
                        +2
                        smile,
                        but now I’ll start either to kick out

                        You're kidding me! laughing
                        either stack guests

                        Then, that's for sure, the guests will hold out for at least a week! fellow
                        i went to sleep!

                        Hello to guests! And good night!
                    3. Yarbay
                      Yarbay 30 July 2012 08: 37
                      0
                      Dear Vladimir!
                      I enjoyed reading your dialogue with Esther!
                      Very interesting to write!
                      I was once again convinced of your creative abilities, although I do not agree with all your conclusions!
                  2. Yarbay
                    Yarbay 30 July 2012 08: 31
                    0
                    Quote: Odessa
                    On the Internet there is no option-online, to throw a brick, write a slap or give into a tambourine

                    Dear Esther, why not provide, patent?
                    I think a very good idea !!))
                    Immediately everyone will become kinder)))
                    And if you also provide for shooting from pistols and machine guns, then we can save Assad!))
                    To you from the heart and everywhere only ++++++
    2. Orthodox warrior
      Orthodox warrior 28 July 2012 20: 44
      +3
      HOLIDAY, ORTHODOX!
  24. jagdpanzer
    jagdpanzer 28 July 2012 15: 03
    +2
    albeit a word but you look and scare! and there the fleet seems to be suitable for "exercises" what no support!
  25. Warik
    Warik 28 July 2012 15: 14
    +5
    one foreign agent did not like the news
  26. maxon109
    maxon109 28 July 2012 15: 25
    +14
    You have fun here. Nice to read. Arrange a verbal dispute with other advocates of American democracy.
    After the economic crisis, 14 million people could not recover, get back on their feet. Someone was taken away housing, many lost their jobs. And the Pentagon is driving billions of dollars into developing new weapons and supporting the army abroad. So you have no time left. Your collapse will be worse than the USSR
    1. Alexander Romanov
      Alexander Romanov 28 July 2012 15: 44
      +7
      Quote: maxon109
      Someone was taken away housing, many lost their jobs.

      25 million people are officially considered unemployed in the United States, not officially much more, estimates are different. Unfortunately, I don’t know how many homeless people. And as for the collapse, you are right and it will be very soon!
      1. stroporez
        stroporez 8 August 2012 10: 35
        0
        I don’t know how many homeless people, but I read somewhere that a very significant part of them are veterans. when the State Department takes these pen-dos, they seem to be sober from then. it will be so ----- lawyers who defended the interests and rights of policemen, rescuers, firefighters who suffered September 11 ---- expelled from National Bar Association. and these will not be excluded --- as the used preziks will be thrown out ............
    2. esaul
      esaul 28 July 2012 19: 13
      +5
      Quote: maxon109
      You have fun here. Nice to read.

      And it is difficult to "work" - the finger is tired;
      Quote: maxon109
      Arrange a verbal dispute with other advocates of American democracy.

      To enter into a dispute with them is a dead matter. For decades, the driven self-conceit of its missionary role has been chopping off any sound argument against it.
      1. Roman Skomorokhov
        Roman Skomorokhov 28 July 2012 23: 48
        0
        Indeed, the old proverb about throwing beads is recalled ...
  27. davoks
    davoks 28 July 2012 15: 27
    0
    The author should check articles. The Ministry of Defense has long written a refutation of the bases in Cuba and Vietnam. the admiral does not make decisions about the bases - this is not in his competence
  28. Pimply
    Pimply 28 July 2012 15: 50
    -3
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YwOYtKyr3Hs

    To cool the hot heads - the Russian base in Tartus. To make it clear, where the hryvnia is mentioned, this is not a spy lining, but a person is listed on the Black Sea Fleet, in the Crimea. Accordingly, the salary is received in the currency of the state in which he serves.
    1. Roman Skomorokhov
      Roman Skomorokhov 28 July 2012 23: 34
      0
      And what have they mined? What didn’t you like? was there a report from the BBC? Russian TV channel, if that.
  29. Bugor
    Bugor 28 July 2012 15: 51
    +1
    Well, again the same thing ... Well, what does the Pentagon and millions of unemployed? At my company, 70 percent of the staff was reduced. It was from October the notorious 2008, then I was hanging around on Raskaty, fishing ... And still ... And what does the Pentagon have to do with it?
    You do not confuse the global economy and the requests of the States regarding military matters ...
  30. jagdpanzer
    jagdpanzer 28 July 2012 15: 55
    +10
    I wonder if the United States collapses where all this mass will move and what will happen to the territory? maybe we will return Alaska to the noise? bully
    1. Odessa
      Odessa 28 July 2012 16: 35
      +8
      jagdpanzer,
      maybe we will return Alaska to the noise?

      Surely, here the day of the Airborne Forces will end and you can think about Alaska! laughing
  31. Alx1miK
    Alx1miK 28 July 2012 16: 09
    +9
    back I won’t taste it at all by citizenship? That USA then Germany then Sweden. Although if you are shy you can not answer. You asked where the amers committed genocide? Hmm, Vietam (gas, napalm, doesn’t resemble anything?) Yugoslavia (use of ammunition with uranium) I will not give the rest, since I am not strong in this matter. There are knowledgeable people on the site have already written about this. What do you say there, democracy? Yes, no, rather neocolonialism. The states followed the path of Small Britain, although this is due to the fact that the Americans are practically their descendants. You and your games in democracy someday jump to the third world. And the responsibility will rest with you, even if there is a Frenchman Namba two ferdinant.
  32. Bugor
    Bugor 28 July 2012 16: 14
    -1
    Quote: smile
    Intervention is an external intervention contrary to the will of the country's authorities. You didn’t mess anything up?

    Yes, I have not confused anything, God have mercy. The war in Iraq and Kuwait is the intervention of NATO member states against another country. You won't say that Saddam was happy about NATO's entry into the war? The intervention is real. And on the part of Iraq and NATO. And Libya? Gaddafi was soaked, but he was not asked, although he was power. Do you cite Afghan as an example with Amin? Our 40th Army was, in fact, an intervention army. Do not be afraid of this - the definition of "intervention". Nobody argues with this, except you. So with Syria - if we get involved in this tangle - it is not at all a fact that the so-called "world community" will not call us invaders who want to stifle the craving of Syrian democracy for freedom.
    Do you need any conclusions?
    And why was my previous post deleted, moderators? I did not swear, did not incite hatred ...
    1. smile
      smile 28 July 2012 21: 28
      +4
      Bugor
      Excuse me, but you do not have good vision, if you could only see me .... do you really need me to remind you how often, tedious and long, the legitimate leadership of Afghanistan asked our troops to enter there? These are dozens of written appeals, of which no one has been making secrets since the 90s ... you, apparently, do not know this alone. And why, after this, do we, contrary to the real state of things, consider ourselves invaders? Strange logic. Do not find?
      I am by no means proposing to get involved in the Syrian fight. But we simply have to be ready there to protect almost hundreds of thousands of our compatriots, mainly women who married Syrians! Or do you think that the life of tens of thousands of our compatriots. Whose fate will be unenviable if the bandits win, worth nothing? To me we ... t from the high bell tower on the opinion of the "world community" and other common people. if the lives of our compatriots are threatened! If the state does not give a damn about the lives of its citizens - it has no right to exist! And only that country that, without hesitation, will use force to protect its own people and will be respected. And respect in the international arena is loyal allies, it is calmed down enemies, it is, after all, the safety of the country's citizens and even a precautionary attitude from the local police. Well here is incomprehensible?
  33. Rodriques
    Rodriques 28 July 2012 16: 17
    +8
    Back, I’m wondering, but do you know in what year during the Second World War the American Army liberated Yakutsk?
    1. maxon109
      maxon109 28 July 2012 16: 43
      +3
      Immediately after the North Pole freed from penguins
  34. Bugor
    Bugor 28 July 2012 16: 26
    +1
    Rodriguez, test question !!!!!!
    I suspect that not every first one will answer !!!! drinks
  35. Gakkoga
    Gakkoga 28 July 2012 16: 39
    +6
    Disputes are, of course, at the level of the sandbox, remember colleagues, how at one time, when the same Yankee dolls got us to the UN, Nikita Khrushchev said very simply - "We will show you, Kuz'kina's Mother." Rough and rude, but after that, ordinary US citizens remembered that they actually had plans for tomorrow, and it seemed like they wanted to live, and it was not necessary to stink like that in the international arena, but you could keep your thoughts to yourself, especially when do not ask, What the United States now resembles the Decaying Corpse of the Roman Empire, I think no one will argue?
  36. Bugor
    Bugor 28 July 2012 16: 49
    +1
    Odessa, we need to return Alaska on the first of August!
    Because the second will be only defenders .... smile
    Forwards and midfielders will not remain .... drinks
    1. Odessa
      Odessa 28 July 2012 17: 37
      +5
      Bugor,
      Forwards and midfielders will not remain.

      I did not really understand laughing Do you need Alaska just to play soccer?
      we need to return Alaska on the first of August!

      Oleg in Mozayka wrote that the mayor is good in Alaska, he will understand and wait! laughing
      1. Alexander Romanov
        Alexander Romanov 28 July 2012 17: 49
        +4
        Quote: Odessa
        Something I did not understand, do you need Alaska just to play football?

        Esther, if only so laughing We’ll also build an excellent stadium and a pioneer camp — everything is better than the Pentagon station there now. And the grass turns green, the kids play football laughing
        1. Odessa
          Odessa 28 July 2012 17: 52
          +4
          Alexander Romanov,
          We’ll also build an excellent stadium and a pioneer camp — everything is better than the Pentagon station there now.

          I did not get that what ... Did you change your route? Now to the Oval Office laughing moving through Alaska?
          1. Alexander Romanov
            Alexander Romanov 28 July 2012 18: 01
            +5
            Quote: Odessa
            I don’t understand ... Did you change the route? Now move to the Oval Office through Alaska

            Yes, no, right there for the children. Oval toilet for the needs of those who have fallen on the lawn near the white house. We will move according to the planned and approved plan. The one who catches Obama a super prize two boxes of vodka and the house of Tom Cruise as a gift yes
            1. Odessa
              Odessa 28 July 2012 18: 18
              +4
              Alexander Romanov,
              Anyone who catches Obama

              You don’t need to catch him, he will surrender himself. laughing
              And Tom Cruise, like a few years ago, Islam accepted on the Internet, a lot was written about this.
              1. Alexander Romanov
                Alexander Romanov 28 July 2012 18: 36
                +2
                Quote: Odessa
                And Tom Cruise, like a few years ago, Islam accepted on the Internet, a lot was written about this

                That's how it is what Well then, I will personally test it for knowledge of the Koran, otherwise these stars will change religion in most cases for the sake of PR. Esther, I looked Google there with some dude. There’ll be a hundred meters pool, you don’t know who ро wandered off? I just always dreamed about this, otherwise you’ll come there - there already Sparrow is tweeting with Hollywood birds. It is necessary to borrow, while it is free. By the way, there is one such pool, all other bathtubs are compared to it.
                Quote: Odessa
                You don’t need to catch him, he will surrender himself
                Obama did not accept Islam for an hour laughing
                1. Odessa
                  Odessa 28 July 2012 18: 40
                  +3
                  Alexander Romanov,
                  and then you will come there - there already Sparrow with Hollywood birds tweets

                  His mother-in-law is tweeting! fellow He still does not know that I ordered her a ticket to Washington. bully
                  So the swim in the pool is canceled. laughing
                  1. Alexander Romanov
                    Alexander Romanov 28 July 2012 18: 48
                    +2
                    Quote: Odessa
                    He still does not know that I ordered her a ticket to Washington.

                    Submarine Ticket what You have connections belay Esther, urgently need a ticket to the moon, away from earthly civilized psychos, order, and winked
                    1. Odessa
                      Odessa 28 July 2012 18: 58
                      +3
                      Alexander Romanov,
                      urgently need a ticket to the moon, away from earthly civilized psychos, order

                      It doesn’t work, talk less with idiots, and get positive, and the ticket is not for a submarine, but for a plane, there you’ll deliver whiskey and vodka to the stewardess, so that’s with complete comfort! fellow
                      1. Alexander Romanov
                        Alexander Romanov 28 July 2012 19: 03
                        +3
                        Quote: Odessa
                        Stewardesses deliver whiskey with vodka, so with complete comfort!

                        I do not drink whiskey and vodka! Well, Esther I got to sleep, the third hour of the night. Don’t miss, you see, after all, WAY OF THE SITE love Chao!
                      2. Odessa
                        Odessa 28 July 2012 19: 09
                        +3
                        Alexander Romanov,
                        I slept to sleep

                        Let you dream, Washington, lawn, champagne pool, etc. laughing
                2. Odessa
                  Odessa 28 July 2012 19: 16
                  +3
                  Romanov, with Champagne did not find, even dream ...
  37. Rodriques
    Rodriques 28 July 2012 16: 52
    +6
    Back? Didn't you lose? smile
  38. Bugor
    Bugor 28 July 2012 16: 57
    +3
    Uh, good! This is my shovel! I’m thinking where is she, there’s nothing to dig my NIVA from.
    Where lies, RODRIGUEZ? Really near Damascus, and no one took it? There are still honest people in Arab countries ...
    1. Rodriques
      Rodriques 28 July 2012 16: 59
      +4
      Uh, no. Do not touch the trophy. Let the horns look and think about their head while it is still on the shoulders bully
  39. Kinsman
    Kinsman 28 July 2012 16: 57
    +3
    you tested the restore function of your back, and which of the amers was responsible for the killings and tortures of tens of thousands of Vietnamese, these events occurred much earlier than the events in Afghanistan with the participation of the USSR
  40. Bugor
    Bugor 28 July 2012 17: 02
    +2
    To hell with him. Let it be a trophy. But when they read from the side on the handle "WE WERE HERE" - let them think ....
  41. NIKOLAI T
    NIKOLAI T 28 July 2012 17: 05
    +7
    It is nice to see that Russia's voice in the international arena is getting louder and more powerful.
  42. Bugor
    Bugor 28 July 2012 17: 32
    -3
    I wonder how many hawks graze here. Do they even represent roughly the losses of the regular army in the war against the partisans?

    And what to minus me? I wanted to spoil the rating, but the army’s losses from this will not decrease.
    Let me explain my thought: one of the first Hawks in our army was P. Grachev, also known as "Pasha-Mercedes". The assault on Grozny is known how it ended. Eerily over, just .....
    He promised one regiment in two hours ....
    How many boys were left there? ......
    If it weren’t for the Shamans, they would have put the young guys under the trunks ... Partizan is under the trunks. Name them differently, that in Afghanistan, that in Chechen ....
    Any objections? I bet ...
    1. dreamer
      dreamer 28 July 2012 17: 48
      +2
      Bugorwell let's argue

      Quote: Bugor
      one of the first Hawks in our army was P. Grachev, also known as "Pasha-Mercedes". The assault on Grozny is known how it ended. Eerily over, just ...

      I don’t argue, it wasn’t the Lord’s bring, in those days Russia failed in all directions with the ever-drunk EBN and its slime
      Quote: Bugor
      He promised one regiment in two hours .... How many boys were left there? .....

      Due to the fact that Grachev Bore promised to pick up the hodgepodge and threw it to slaughter, now the situation is different, well-coordinated units are going to Syria
      Quote: Bugor
      . Under the trunks it is PARTISAN. Name them differently, that in Afghanistan, that in Chechen ....

      There were trained militants, well-armed (they left the warehouses), who had served in the SA, and had armored vehicles (they managed to gouge the aircraft)
      Quote: Bugor
      Do they even represent roughly the losses of the regular army in the war against the partisans?

      You confuse the concept of fighting in the mountains and cleaning up in the desert, having air support and heavy weapons (Syrian) are two big differences
  43. Dimitr
    Dimitr 28 July 2012 17: 32
    +9
    Not a single attempt at an armed attack on the material and technical support point of the Russian Navy in the Syrian port of Tartus will remain unanswered, assured on Friday at the General Staff of the Russian Armed Forces
    The assurance itself in style, like a balm for the soul! Briefly, clearly and without verbiage!
  44. Zomanus
    Zomanus 28 July 2012 17: 39
    0
    Well, let's hope that some do not refuse their statements, others do not hesitate and give the right order at the right time. Or can someone explain the request chain when an attack is detected? Well, let's say the operator of the air defense complex detected the target in his direction and ... How many requests will be made before the order to open fire? And then they will cover the asses with requests to higher ...
  45. Bugor
    Bugor 28 July 2012 17: 39
    -2
    Yes, that’s all. Right now, our ships will leave, so what? Who will protect if the Marines are not left? So, chatter ....
    1. Odessa
      Odessa 29 July 2012 01: 07
      0
      Bugor,
      Do not swear!
      And you clown-back `` personal thanks '', for the mate on the site got a warning from the Admin.
      Good lesson, how not to be on the comments, writing under the flag of the United States!
    2. Odessa
      Odessa 29 July 2012 01: 19
      +1
      Bugor
      Do not swear!
      And you clown-back `` personal thanks '', for the mate on the site got a warning from the Admin.
      Good lesson, how not to be on the comments, writing under the flag of the United States!
  46. Stasi.
    Stasi. 28 July 2012 17: 57
    +1
    I hope the Russian leadership will have enough will to keep its words about supporting Syria and protecting the base in Tartus. All opportunities for protection are there. About the fact that the militants can arrange terrorist attacks in Tartus. They may try to do this, but we will not sit and wait for this. Yes, and the Syrian special services do not bastard soup, they also took all measures to protect the base. In addition to the marines, we can cover the base with the help of naval special forces, the legendary "sea devils". And besides, these bandits have little guts to fight with our soldiers. They can only fight with civilians. Soon the liquidators will get to all of them. So the opposition will end soon.
  47. Bugor
    Bugor 28 July 2012 17: 58
    +1
    Some pipets with an engine ...
    Odessa girl, what I wanted to say about: our DESANTURE captures all the objects on the first of August.
    These are forwards. Daltsche - midfield ..... SECOND of August, we will all over. It is necessary to capture three positional areas so that no one comes to us during the celebration! Only protection is worth it, the rest are in celebration!
  48. vadim58
    vadim58 28 July 2012 18: 15
    +2
    As you know, RUSSIA has only two true friends, the army and navy, so you need to relate to them accordingly!
    1. Russian-
      Russian- 29 July 2012 18: 03
      +1
      Quote: vadim58
      RUSSIA has only two true friends army and navy

      All the rest are just partners!
  49. dmitrijbyko
    dmitrijbyko 28 July 2012 18: 22
    +5
    "there are currently ten Russian warships in the Mediterranean, including five large amphibious assault ships, and ten support ships.

    “Ships in the Mediterranean are performing routine combat training tasks. These tasks are planned for 2011. Large amphibious ships are equipped with standard-armed marines, ”V. Chirkov said.
    I like. I would read and read.
  50. Bugor
    Bugor 28 July 2012 18: 40
    +1
    Dreamer, I'm not talking about attacking actions! I'm always just about defense! And about the marines exclusively in defensive positions! Why hawks and started talking - I'm against attacks on uncharted (uncharted) borders !!!