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In Nigeria, Ukrainian BTR-4 equipped with a strange machine gunner’s position

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In Nigeria, Ukrainian BTR-4 equipped with a strange machine gunner’s position

The Nigerian military published photographs of military equipment that are particularly noteworthy. We are talking about images that depict the BTR-4, previously purchased for the needs of the armed forces of Nigeria from the Ukrainian manufacturer HZTM. This is a variant of the BTR-4EN, which is designated as "Bucephalus".


According to the latest information, at least 10 such armored personnel carriers are currently in service with the Nigerian Armed Forces.

The photos are noteworthy due to the fact that they capture the changes made to the design of the BTR-4 after they were put into service by the Nigerian army. The most important change is the unexpected appearance of a machine gunner in the front of the armored car.



The machine gunner's place is sheathed with steel sheets welded together. In addition, the 12,7 mm machine gun itself has a protective armor screen. The machine gunner can fire by climbing to a place equipped in an original way directly from the cockpit.

Such an upgrade was carried out in Nigeria for a long time (several years ago). And APCs with this design have already been used in operations, including against militants of various terrorist groups.

At the same time, many experts are wondering: does such a strange arrangement of the machine gun prevent the use of the main armament - 30 mm gun? Indeed, even the photo shows that when firing from a cannon, the ammunition can hurt the very metal structure that the Nigerians placed in front of the BTR-4. Any mistake during the shot can lead to hit in the armor plates and unpredictable ricochet.
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  1. The leader of the Redskins
    The leader of the Redskins April 19 2020 18: 11 New
    18
    To be honest, I did not understand these jokes.
    1. Svarog
      Svarog April 19 2020 18: 14 New
      28
      Quote: Leader of the Redskins
      To be honest, I did not understand these jokes.

      So here is a subtle plan, if the machine gunner drifts, then it is at a cost .. this is a kind of detachment wassat
      1. The leader of the Redskins
        The leader of the Redskins April 19 2020 18: 17 New
        33
        And if the machine gunner sdrefit? The driver can suffocate !!!
        1. Vasyan1971
          Vasyan1971 April 19 2020 18: 37 New
          +8
          Quote: Leader of the Redskins
          And if the machine gunner sdrefit? The driver can suffocate !!!

          “What's the main thing not to do in the tank?” © An old but still relevant joke.
          1. Shurik70
            Shurik70 April 19 2020 20: 03 New
            31
            Yes, there are no shells for a 30-mm gun in Nigeria.
            And ammunition for 12,7 mm is.
            That’s the whole intrigue.
            laughing
      2. Lipchanin
        Lipchanin April 19 2020 18: 21 New
        +1
        Quote: Svarog
        this is a kind of detachment

        Yes, it's easier to put a commander with a whip next to laughing
        1. Svarog
          Svarog April 19 2020 18: 22 New
          +2
          Quote: Lipchanin
          Quote: Svarog
          this is a kind of detachment

          Yes, it's easier to put a commander with a whip next to laughing

          So the commander will be under fire .. he is more comfortable behind the armor laughing
          1. Lipchanin
            Lipchanin April 19 2020 18: 23 New
            +4
            Quote: Svarog
            So the commander will be under fire .. he is more comfortable behind the armor

            Then with a whip laughing
    2. Grandfather
      Grandfather April 19 2020 18: 18 New
      13
      Quote: Leader of the Redskins
      To be honest, I did not understand these jokes.

      it’s not easy to understand ... a gloomy, black genius ... wassat
      1. The leader of the Redskins
        The leader of the Redskins April 19 2020 18: 20 New
        +5
        Gloomy? Yes there is a "dark night" !!!
        1. Grandfather
          Grandfather April 19 2020 18: 35 New
          +4
          Quote: Leader of the Redskins
          Yes there is a "dark night" !!!

          dark night, only 30mm shells, KBA-2 guns whistle through .. a little dark ...
      2. Jager
        Jager April 19 2020 18: 33 New
        +8
        From the calculation - 1 black lord of the machine gun)
      3. Vasyan1971
        Vasyan1971 April 19 2020 18: 35 New
        +7
        Quote: Dead Day
        understand is not easy ...

        In Nigeria, there are honest, authentic "blacks". Despite the apparent linguistic similarity. (Oh, how I wrapped it ... belay)
      4. Zoldat_A
        Zoldat_A April 20 2020 04: 57 New
        +2
        Quote: Dead Day
        Quote: Leader of the Redskins
        To be honest, I did not understand these jokes.

        it’s not easy to understand ... a gloomy, black genius ... wassat

        Heredity ... Genetics is to blame - BTR is Ukrainian ...
    3. Professor
      Professor April 19 2020 19: 29 New
      +1
      Quote: Leader of the Redskins
      To be honest, I did not understand these jokes.

      What is there to understand? A full-time cannon is redundant for the execution of weakly armed and unarmed fellow citizens.
      1. Lopatov
        Lopatov April 19 2020 19: 38 New
        +9
        Quote: Professor
        A full-time cannon is redundant for the execution of weakly armed and unarmed fellow citizens.

        Worried about the life and health of "weakly armed and unarmed" Boko Haram militants?
        1. Professor
          Professor April 19 2020 19: 49 New
          -10
          Quote: Spade
          Quote: Professor
          A full-time cannon is redundant for the execution of weakly armed and unarmed fellow citizens.

          Worried about the life and health of "weakly armed and unarmed" Boko Haram militants?

          Did tractor drivers and miners get artillery, tanks and aircraft, or did they remain weakly armed? Do not answer. By the normal law of distribution, errors are already clear.
          1. Lopatov
            Lopatov April 19 2020 19: 52 New
            26
            Quote: Professor
            Did tractor drivers and miners get artillery, tanks and aircraft, or did they remain weakly armed?

            In the elderberry garden, in Kiev, uncle?
            Once again, at VO, the Israeli is worried about the terrorists. This is so familiar ...
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              1. Lopatov
                Lopatov April 19 2020 20: 10 New
                16
                Quote: Professor
                Do not give out wishful thinking.

                And here again.
                Got caught, and immediately hysterical.
                But I am not interested, I know your methods.
                Therefore, I will once again ask why you call the terrorists from Boko Haram "weakly armed and unarmed fellow citizens"

                By the way, I will not let you spit on Russia.
                It is necessary to teach you to answer for your words
                1. Professor
                  Professor April 19 2020 20: 21 New
                  -18
                  Quote: Spade
                  And here again.
                  Got caught, and immediately hysterical.
                  But I am not interested, I know your methods.
                  Therefore, I will once again ask why you call the terrorists from Boko Haram "weakly armed and unarmed fellow citizens"

                  Blah, blah, ball. You are a dreamer. The Russian Federation does not recognize them as terrorists. They are tractor drivers and miners. The materiel is here.http: //www.fsb.ru/fsb/npd/terror.htm
                  Get out of the puddle. wassat

                  Quote: Spade
                  By the way, I will not let you spit on Russia.
                  It is necessary to teach you to answer for your words

                  Are you talking about "machines of this type (MRAP) invented by the French"? One who is not responsible for his words cannot hold others to account. fellow
                  1. Lopatov
                    Lopatov April 19 2020 21: 11 New
                    10
                    Quote: Professor
                    The Russian Federation does not recognize them as terrorists.

                    So what?
                    Does this mean that an Israeli has the right to call these terrorists "weakly armed and unarmed fellow citizens"?

                    Quote: Professor
                    You about

                    No, I'm talking about Brin's words. I have already sent a complaint.
                    I don’t think it’s normal when the Israelis crawl onto a Russian site in order to insult Russia.

                    Quote: Professor
                    Not responsible for his words

                    How are you just now?
                    I caught you on what you called the terrorists "weakly armed and unarmed fellow citizens"
                    Then you began to spit hysterically guano, in order to translate everything into srach, as you usually do.
                    But this time for the trick I'm not going to give in
                    On insulting Russia, I reacted, I am waiting for an explanation on "Boko Haram"
                    1. Professor
                      Professor April 20 2020 20: 07 New
                      -3
                      Quote: Spade
                      So what?

                      This means that your words are slanderous and they are not terrorists, but tractor drivers and miners.

                      Quote: Spade
                      No, I'm talking about Brin's words. I have already sent a complaint.

                      Have you sent a complaint to Brin? File a lawsuit in the Bassmann Court. wink

                      Quote: Spade
                      How are you just now?
                      I caught you on what you called the terrorists "weakly armed and unarmed fellow citizens"

                      You're lying. They are not terrorists. Here is a list of terrorist organizations according to Russian laws and the FSB. They are not in the list. Accordingly, you call honest tractor drivers terrorists.

                      Quote: Spade
                      Then you began to spit hysterically guano, in order to translate everything into srach, as you usually do.

                      We sat in a puddle with the MPAP. Now they have sat in a puddle with the weakly armed and unarmed Nigerians whom you call terrorists. laughing

                      Administration, this is a clear violation of the rules of the site:
                      b) Inciting ethnic hatred.
                      c) flooding,
                      h) Trolling
                      1. Lopatov
                        Lopatov April 20 2020 20: 14 New
                        +2
                        Quote: Professor
                        You're lying. They are not terrorists. Here is a list of terrorist organizations according to Russian laws and the FSB.

                        A very far-reaching statement.
                        But it’s not very smart.

                        Besides false.
                        According to Russian law, ISIS is a terrorist organization

                        But that later.
                        Now you have to explain why you called the terrorists from the ISIS branch "weakly armed and unarmed fellow citizens"
                      2. Professor
                        Professor April 20 2020 20: 19 New
                        -3
                        Quote: Spade
                        A very far-reaching statement.
                        But it’s not very smart.

                        Besides false.
                        According to Russian law, ISIS is a terrorist organization

                        Blah blah blah. Learn materiel. Boko Haram is not on the FSB list, from the word "absolutely".
                        http://www.fsb.ru/fsb/npd/terror.htm

                        Single federal list of organizations
                        including foreign and international organizations recognized in accordance with the law
                        Russian Federation terrorist
                        (July 5, 2019)


                        Quote: Spade
                        But that later.
                        Now you have to explain why you called the terrorists from the ISIS branch "weakly armed and unarmed fellow citizens"

                        Ptamushta they are not terrorists. They were not recognized by the Russian court as terrorists. fellow

                        And why did you call the prototype car the world's first serial MPAP? wink

                        PS
                        Have you filed a complaint against Brin? You have to keep your promises.
                      3. Lopatov
                        Lopatov April 20 2020 20: 34 New
                        +3
                        Quote: Professor
                        Blah blah blah. Learn materiel. Boko Haram is not on the FSB list, from the word "absolutely".
                        http://www.fsb.ru/fsb/npd/terror.htm

                        Do you have something with eyes?
                        By your link number 22.

                        In addition, https://www.un.org/securitycouncil/en/sanctions/1267/aq_sanctions_list/summaries/entity/jama%27atu-ahlis-sunna-lidda%27awati-wal-jihad-%28boko
                        From what follows. what's your statement "The Russian Federation does not recognize them as terrorists."is deceitful.


                        Quote: Professor
                        Ptamushta they are not terrorists.

                        Perfectly!
                        Remember these words of yours.
                        You just called the ISIS affiliate "not terrorists".
                        Included in the sanctions list of terrorist organizations of the UN Security Council since May 22, 2014

                        This is a very bold statement.

                        Quote: Professor
                        Have you filed a complaint against Brin?

                        He turned out to be smarter. and have long apologized
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                      5. Lopatov
                        Lopatov April 20 2020 20: 49 New
                        +2
                        Quote: Professor
                        You're lying. Boko Haram is not in the 22nd line.

                        ISIS is there. Parent organization for Boku Haram since March 2015
                        Lying again ....

                        Quote: Professor
                        What court

                        UN Security Council. Which Russia is part of and even has the right to veto.

                        Quote: Professor
                        Do you think that the FSB does not recognize terrorists as terrorists? File a lawsuit against the FSB.


                        No, I believe that you call terrorists "weakly armed and unarmed fellow citizens"

                        Moreover, I believe that you are lying, saying that the Russian Federation does not recognize them as terrorists. "
                      6. Professor
                        Professor April 20 2020 20: 57 New
                        -1
                        Quote: Spade
                        ISIS is there. Parent organization for Boku Haram since March 2015
                        Lying again ....

                        Are you illiterate? There is no BOKO HARAM list. No Hamas, No Islamic Jihad. They are not banned in Russia and are not recognized as terrorists.

                        You lied and insulted tractor drivers and miners calling them terrorists.

                        Quote: Spade
                        UN Security Council. Which Russia is part of and even has the right to veto.

                        That is, the Russian court did not prohibit them and they are allowed on the territory of the Russian Federation. Thanks for explaining.

                        Quote: Spade

                        No, I believe that you call terrorists "weakly armed and unarmed fellow citizens"

                        In a lie called tractor drivers by terrorists.

                        They merged with the little bit of Brin's "apology" as they merged with the MRAP. What a pity. So I wanted to have some more fun. wassat
                        Okay. The next 2 drains counted. hi
                      7. Lopatov
                        Lopatov April 20 2020 21: 17 New
                        +3
                        Balabolstvo went.
                        You lied about the fact that "the Russian Federation does not recognize them as terrorists."
                        For here: https://www.un.org/securitycouncil/en/sanctions/1267/aq_sanctions_list/summaries/entity/jama%27atu-ahlis-sunna-lidda%27awati-wal-jihad-%28boko

                        You stated that Boko Haram are not terrorists (post 20:19)

                        You rushed to a Russian site to make insulting allusions to Russia.

                        What did you forget here?

                        Quote: Professor
                        Merged with a little bit of "apology"

                        There really was no apology.
                        He is like you, is not responsible for his words. And bustles like a snake in a pan
                        He pretended not to remember ...

                        "Q: In one of the interviews you called Russia Nigeria in the snow. It was so?
                        A: I don’t remember saying something like that. However, during the interview I then drank a lot of wine ... Maybe I forgot (laughs).
                        "
                        https://iz.ru/news/336720
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                      9. Professor
                        Professor April 21 2020 20: 10 New
                        +1
                        Quote: Spade
                        Balabolstvo went.

                        It has never stopped with you.

                        Quote: Spade
                        You lied about the fact that "the Russian Federation does not recognize them as terrorists."
                        For here: https://www.un.org/securitycouncil/en/sanctions/1267/aq_sanctions_list/summaries/entity/jama%27atu-ahlis-sunna-lidda%27awati-wal-jihad-%28boko

                        When, which court recognized them as terrorists in the Russian Federation? Link to the studio.

                        Quote: Spade
                        You stated that Boko Haram are not terrorists (post 20:19)

                        Exactly. They are not included in the list of organizations prohibited in the Russian Federation. List above. Accordingly, Boko Haram is allowed on the territory of the Russian Federation. In your organization, the terrorist organization permitted in the Russian Federation? Fear God and do not insult Russia with such hints.

                        Quote: Spade
                        You rushed to a Russian site to make insulting allusions to Russia.

                        You are lying as always. I did not insult Russia. I didn’t even call you a liar even though you are. This time.
                        There is no message on the homepage of VO that this site is only for Russians. These are two.

                        Quote: Spade
                        What did you forget here?

                        I do not need your permission. You better not skimp and help financially your favorite site in difficult times.

                        Quote: Spade
                        There really was no apology.

                        Of course it wasn’t. You lied again.

                        Quote: Spade
                        He is like you, is not responsible for his words. And bustles like a snake in a pan
                        He pretended not to remember ...

                        Sue him.

                        Total
                        1. Boko Haram is not a terrorist. You lied.
                        2. Mrap did not come up with the French. You lied.
                        3. Bryn did not apologize. You lied.
                      10. Lopatov
                        Lopatov April 21 2020 20: 56 New
                        0
                        Quote: Professor
                        Exactly. They are not included in the list of organizations prohibited in the Russian Federation.

                        The list includes. Together with its parent organization. For according to the law
                        "The court decision on the liquidation of the organization (prohibition of its activities) applies to regional and other structural units of the organization"


                        So the lie is there

                        Quote: Professor
                        When, which court recognized them as terrorists in the Russian Federation?

                        The decision of the Supreme Court of the Russian Federation on December 29, 2014 N AKPI14-1424S

                        Quote: Professor
                        You are lying as always. I did not insult Russia.

                        Are you sure that if your post with offensive hints about Russia was deleted by the moderator, then you can lie that there was nothing?

                        It’s somehow even too much for you ...

                        Quote: Professor
                        Boko Haram is not a terrorist. You lied.

                        You see, you are again declaring in black and white that the organization recognized by the UN Security Council as a terrorist organization is not one.
                        Is everything normal with your head?
                        laughing laughing laughing




                        Quote: Professor
                        Bryn did not apologize.

                        And I wrote about it. Itself.
                        That instead of apologizing, he stated that he was drunk and does not remember.
                        See, when I'm wrong, I admit it. And I’m not starting to lie, like some.
              2. musketon64
                musketon64 April 20 2020 21: 53 New
                0
                By what court and when was BOKO HARAM recognized as a terrorist organization?)))))
                -------------------------------------------------- -
                American court:

                https://www.golos-ameriki.ru/a/us-boko-haram/1790949.html
              3. Usher
                Usher April 21 2020 08: 59 New
                +3
                This is a branch of ISIS. Do you have logic? If ISIS is terrorists (I hope there is no need to explain why) then their branches too. Everything is simple. Some ideas are just financing, just different places. You yourself can’t understand or drown for the terrorists?
              4. Professor
                Professor April 21 2020 20: 11 New
                -1
                Quote: Usher
                This is a branch of ISIS.

                What is this nonsense? Show us the charter of the organization where they declare that they are an "affiliate" of IS.
              5. Lopatov
                Lopatov April 21 2020 20: 56 New
                +2
                Quote: Professor
                Show us the charter of the organization

                Only after you prove that Boko Haram has a charter.
  • musketon64
    musketon64 April 19 2020 21: 21 New
    12
    Boko Haram is not recognized by the Russian Federation as a terrorist organization, so you slander.)))))
    ---------------------------------------------------------------
    Swearing allegiance to the Islamic State in March 2015 [12], Boko Haram changed its name to the Islamic State's West Africa Province (ISWAP). And thus putting himself on a par with ISIS, a terrorist organization banned in Russia.
    1. Professor
      Professor April 20 2020 20: 10 New
      -4
      Quote: musketone64
      Boko Haram is not recognized by the Russian Federation as a terrorist organization, so you slander.)))))
      ---------------------------------------------------------------
      Swearing allegiance to the Islamic State in March 2015 [12], Boko Haram changed its name to the Islamic State's West Africa Province (ISWAP). And thus putting himself on a par with ISIS, a terrorist organization banned in Russia.

      The materiel is here.http: //www.fsb.ru/fsb/npd/terror.htm
      1. musketon64
        musketon64 April 20 2020 20: 29 New
        +4
        Wikipedia:
        Boko Haram (since 2015 - West African Province of the Islamic State) is a radical Nigerian Islamic organization. Known since 2002, when Mohammed Yusuf became its leader. The main goal of the organization is to introduce Sharia law throughout Nigeria and to eradicate the Western way of life. In July 2009, they launched riots in northern Nigeria (a hotbed in Bauchi state), attacking Christian churches and police stations. In May 2014, it was included in the list of terrorist organizations by the UN Security Council [11].

        Swearing allegiance to the Islamic State in March 2015 [12], Boko Haram changed its name to the Islamic State's West Africa Province (ISWAP) [
        +
        The unified federal list of organizations, including foreign and international organizations, recognized in accordance with the legislation of the Russian Federation as terrorist:
        “Islamic State” (other names: “Islamic State of Iraq and Syria”, “Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant”, “Islamic State of Iraq and Sham”)
        Supreme Court
        Russian Federation,
        from 29.12.2014
        AKPI No. 14-1424C,
        entered into force 13.02.2015
        =
        And thus putting himself on a par with ISIS, a terrorist organization banned in Russia.
        You cannot add 1 + 1. And also - "professor".
        1. Professor
          Professor April 20 2020 20: 47 New
          -4
          Wikipedia: ??? fool
          Blah blah blah. Where is Boko Haram here? Which line? You give me links to the tape. do not bring ru. The FSB website is in your hands. http://www.fsb.ru/fsb/npd/terror.htm
          1. musketon64
            musketon64 April 20 2020 21: 02 New
            +4
            Blah blah blah. Where is Boko Haram here? On which line?))))))
            -----------------
            In the first.
            I don’t read the tape in principle. I attached an extract from the FSB website, and after Boko Haram changed its name to “Islamic State's West Africa Province (ISWAP) [becoming a branch of the Islamic State, as they say, with all the consequences.
            And this is already at the international level: In May 2014, it was included in the list of terrorist organizations by the UN Security Council [11].
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          3. Professor
            Professor April 21 2020 19: 56 New
            0
            Quote: musketone64
            Blah blah blah. Where is Boko Haram here? On which line?))))))
            -----------------
            In the first.
            I don’t read the tape in principle. I attached an extract from the FSB website, and after Boko Haram changed its name to “Islamic State's West Africa Province (ISWAP) [becoming a branch of the Islamic State, as they say, with all the consequences.
            And this is already at the international level: In May 2014, it was included in the list of terrorist organizations by the UN Security Council [11].

            Where is the Boko Haram charter in which they joined the terrorists?
            What court of the Russian Federation and when recognized Boko Haram as terrorists?
            Why is there no mention of Boko Haram on the FSB list?
            Who banned Boko Haram in Russia?
          4. musketon64
            musketon64 April 22 2020 16: 57 New
            0
            Professor
            -------------------------------------------------- -
            Where is the Boko Haram charter in which they joined the terrorists?
            What court of the Russian Federation and when recognized Boko Haram as terrorists?
            Why is there no mention of Boko Haram on the FSB list?
            Who banned Boko Haram on the territory of the Russian Federation?))))))))))))))))))))))))

            Boko Haoram as a TERRORIST organization appears on the international, American list, as well as a number of other states. Regardless of whether or not this gang is on the Russian list.
            As well as the fact that the FSB of "Hezbollah" is not on this list, but this does not prevent you, Jews, from considering it a terrorist one. And this is your right. I read here, I don't read here, but here I wrap the fish.
            And finally. I remember how you protested appealing to the site administration against one article published on VO and provoked. with your words, "srach". Exactly the same srach you arranged from scratch, not wanting to recognize the freaks from Boca Harm as terrorists. I would also understand your feelings if you drowned for Israel and the Jews. But certainly not for this scum.
      2. viktorR
        viktorR April 21 2020 15: 34 New
        +2
        Consider me gloating, but how pleasant is the professor’s tantrum :)
      3. Professor
        Professor April 21 2020 20: 13 New
        0
        Quote: viktorR
        Consider me gloating, but how pleasant is the professor’s tantrum :)

        If conducting a legal educational program for ignoramuses is hysterical for you, then I will "wear out" until they are fully enlightened. wink
      4. Lopatov
        Lopatov April 21 2020 21: 01 New
        +2
        Quote: Professor
        If carrying out a legal educational program to ignoramuses

        I'm afraid your educational program turned into your epic landing in a puddle.
        As always.
      5. viktorR
        viktorR April 22 2020 14: 12 New
        +1
        That you will hysteria, I have no doubt, I have seen this more than once. Mental imbalance often occurs when a person has to adjust the facts to his erroneous judgments. You do not know how to admit your mistakes, this is your problem. You yourself are driving yourself into a corner and in the end, as in this particular case, sit in a puddle ...
  • Corsair71 (Anatoly)
    Corsair71 (Anatoly) April 20 2020 08: 47 New
    +9
    Yes, Professor, you have not been to VO for a long time, and you did not come empty-handed. full buckets brought and sprinkled contents. back, bring everything to yourself. you do not change, but sorry.
    1. viktorR
      viktorR April 21 2020 15: 32 New
      +2
      In fact, it looks like he was carrying full buckets, but he stumbled and poured them on himself :). Miserable look is his attempts to throw the same link to the FSB website and stupidly ignore the others that pushed him here from all sides :). Looks very hysterical.
      1. Corsair71 (Anatoly)
        Corsair71 (Anatoly) April 21 2020 16: 29 New
        +2
        I do not understand his bile. he proudly wrote that he studied in the USSR, i.e. knows a lot. but I don’t understand this to look for opportunities to write a comment so as to humiliate everyone with whom I lived and their descendants. I have relatives in the Donbass and in other cities of Ukraine and in the Russian Federation from Kaliningrad to the Far East. But people live together without following the authorities. To put it mildly, his actions are very low.
  • Incvizitor
    Incvizitor April 19 2020 19: 43 New
    +9
    A full-time cannon is redundant for the execution of weakly armed and unarmed fellow citizens.
    There, where this APC came from and with such calibers when shooting unarmed fellow citizens they do not disdain.
  • Katanikotael
    Katanikotael April 19 2020 21: 08 New
    +1
    In the sense of redundant if they shove zu-23 on all that is possible? I will take an additional broads as an answer, but about redundancy it is very bypassed!
    1. Incvizitor
      Incvizitor April 20 2020 15: 00 New
      0
      I think their memory as artillery surrender hollow and crush the position.
  • Nyrobsky
    Nyrobsky April 19 2020 19: 35 New
    +7
    Quote: Leader of the Redskins
    To be honest, I did not understand these jokes.

    Everything is simple there. The cannon is there, but there is no ammunition for it, so they will masturbate from what is available. I see, there and with a form strained, three pretzels on the armor are "tuned" like at a carnival, who is in that much, with one Kalash for three. The most important one with "binoculars", you can't go wrong laughing
    1. Zoldat_A
      Zoldat_A April 20 2020 05: 22 New
      +2
      Quote: Nyrobsky
      The most important one with "binoculars", you can't go wrong

      laughing
  • svp67
    svp67 April 19 2020 21: 03 New
    0
    Quote: Leader of the Redskins
    To be honest, I did not understand these jokes.

    We decided to increase the firepower of one armored unit. I was more interested in something else, but why is the landing again not wearing armor, but riding on armor? Doesn't know how to find the "doors"? By the way, the fact that the landing on the armor can partially explain the appearance of the second firing point, since the tower cannot act in such a situation
    1. Petrik66
      Petrik66 April 20 2020 13: 57 New
      0
      Well, in the DRA and in Chechnya, the landing also drove on the armor. Armored personnel carriers and infantry fighting vehicles do not hold a land mine.
      1. svp67
        svp67 April 20 2020 14: 57 New
        0
        Quote: Petrik66
        Well, in the DRA and in Chechnya, the landing also drove on the armor. Armored personnel carriers and infantry fighting vehicles do not hold a land mine.

        Well, this APC is slightly different than our APCs
  • venik
    venik April 20 2020 00: 40 New
    +2
    Quote: Leader of the Redskins
    To be honest, I did not understand these jokes.

    ========
    To be honest, I wanted to write that "some Papuans invented Bucephalus, others" modernized "... But I decided that it was not politically correct and did not write ...
    Moreover, this very "Bucephalus" is conceived just well! That is, not so that "super-duper", but quite even nothing - and even "at the level". That's just make it is clearly NOT HANDS ..... Well, but something like that, with what some "play music" on "Evening Quarter":

    Not only welds are cracked there, but also armor! On one of the sites cracks in the welded body received at the assembly plant are shown, they were counted over a hundred!

    Moreover, "evil tongues" claim that in some cases there are cracks into which one can stick "not only a finger", but also what is playing on the piano .... (the one on the left) .......
  • Mwg
    Mwg April 19 2020 18: 16 New
    11
    Everything is very simple: for Nigerians, ammunition for a standard gun is disproportionately expensive, and they re-equip 12,7 themselves and therefore it is cheap. So a full-time automatic cannon is used as a last resort, and a machine gun is used everyday.
    1. knn54
      knn54 April 19 2020 18: 45 New
      0
      Or with the gun itself problems.
      1. alexander 2
        alexander 2 April 20 2020 00: 52 New
        +1
        If there is a problem with the gun, why not remove it and put a machine gun in it? Yes, and with a gun you can. Instead of the standard at 7,62, I put this and that's it. Why fence a garden?
    2. Lopatov
      Lopatov April 19 2020 19: 18 New
      +1
      Quote: MVG
      Nigerian ammunition for a standard gun is disproportionately expensive,

      There is a Soviet gun, so the prices are very reasonable.
    3. Ramzaj99
      Ramzaj99 April 19 2020 19: 22 New
      +1
      Quote: MVG
      Everything is very simple: for Nigerians, ammunition for a standard gun is disproportionately expensive, and they re-equip 12,7 themselves and therefore it is cheap. So a full-time automatic cannon is used as a last resort, and a machine gun is used everyday.

      + + +
  • parusnik
    parusnik April 19 2020 18: 18 New
    +1
    However, many experts are wondering: does such a strange arrangement of the machine gun prevent the use of its main armament - 30 mm cannon?
    ... Apparently, the author of the novelty checked on himself ..
  • Vitaly Tsymbal
    Vitaly Tsymbal April 19 2020 18: 23 New
    +5
    Each theater of operations has its own specifics, including adjusted for ethnic culture ... The fact that in the tundra is life, in the savannah is death ....
    1. Lopatov
      Lopatov April 19 2020 19: 20 New
      +2
      Quote: Vitaly Tsymbal
      Each theater of operations has its own specifics,

      Everything is much simpler.
      A machine gunner in such a "birdhouse" will react to danger much faster
  • il-z
    il-z April 19 2020 18: 27 New
    +2
    I think they use the surprise of the enemy for their own purposes: a surprised opponent is a defeated opponent)
  • Vasyan1971
    Vasyan1971 April 19 2020 18: 31 New
    +2
    However, many experts are wondering: does such a strange arrangement of the machine gun prevent the use of its main armament - 30 mm cannon?

    Maybe this gun doesn’t shoot at all? So the Aboriginal people, swearing and blaspheming, have to pile up all kinds of garbage.
    1. Grandfather
      Grandfather April 19 2020 18: 38 New
      +5
      Quote: Vasyan1971
      Maybe this gun doesn’t shoot at all?

      Here, too, such a thought flickered! broke the roofing material of the gun, and that’s all.
      1. Vasyan1971
        Vasyan1971 April 19 2020 18: 57 New
        +3
        Quote: Dead Day
        broke the roofing gun

        Maybe she broke down? Made in Ukraina, after all ... Precedents are known. request
        1. Grandfather
          Grandfather April 19 2020 19: 05 New
          +4
          Quote: Vasyan1971
          Maybe she broke down? Made in Ukraina, after all ... Precedents are known.

          the couple thought ... and mortars "hammer" case niggers do not deliver, to reduce the population? what
      2. Zoldat_A
        Zoldat_A April 20 2020 05: 52 New
        +1
        Quote: Vasyan1971
        Maybe this gun doesn’t shoot at all? So the Aboriginal people, swearing and blaspheming, have to pile up all kinds of garbage.

        Quote: Dead Day
        Here, too, such a thought flickered! broke the roofing material of the gun, and that’s all.

        And if this "birdhouse" breaks down? They won't fix it either. There is still a lot of room for sponsors. And the technology has been tested for a long time.
    2. donavi49
      donavi49 April 19 2020 19: 57 New
      +2
      No local specifics sooner. It is necessary to demonstrate a lot of decisiveness, to shoot for wit, etc. To do this, it is better to have a special person with a turret. So they do it.

      They are generally turned in this matter. They saw the blocks of Shilka and put on the MDIs or Toyota.



      1. Vasyan1971
        Vasyan1971 April 19 2020 20: 16 New
        +1
        Quote: donavi49
        No local specifics sooner.

        Maybe. But some clumsy ... No ergonomics, and accordingly the same efficiency.
  • Antagonist
    Antagonist April 19 2020 18: 34 New
    +2
    when firing from a cannon, ammunition can touch the same metal structure

    The feeling for the machine gunner is not the best.
    Maybe Nigerians don't use a 30mm gun?
    Then why don't they dismantle it?
  • Emphasis
    Emphasis April 19 2020 18: 34 New
    +1
    What a twist!!!
    And what seams. And the stern Sau "Catapult" sample of the 12th century to maximize the cost of ammunition.
    Damn, Exibit pumped this APC ...
  • Olddetractor
    Olddetractor April 19 2020 19: 03 New
    +2
    Do not shoot from the forest. Or very rarely shoot ... Shells are expensive and in short supply
  • 113262a
    113262a April 19 2020 19: 03 New
    +5
    He looked at the trophy Bucephalus, a seemingly beautiful car, though the combat module on it was ugly, with additional armor, a kind of trash. The SLA-decent, apparently, is either French or Belgian-Swiss-inscriptions in French are sealed with Ukrainian ones. Panoramic sight with a large color screen, thermal imaging channel, there is a remote control panel for fire. . But here is the ejection of shells, like all such guns, forward. So this African-African will fly just for the collar! Did, you know, a jihad mobile from BETR
  • Lord of the Sith
    Lord of the Sith April 19 2020 19: 04 New
    +2
    The Sumerians infected even blacks with Svidomo, soon they will roll out their "Dung" laughing
  • 75 Sergey
    75 Sergey April 19 2020 19: 07 New
    +2
    The gun is redundant, and a machine gun was attached
  • awdrgy
    awdrgy April 19 2020 19: 24 New
    0
    And the fluff may not work for a long time, there are no shells or the resource is coming to an end (we can put the used ones and now they burst and burst)
  • abrakadabre
    abrakadabre April 19 2020 19: 27 New
    +3
    Any mistake during the shot can lead to hit in the armor plates and an unpredictable ricochet.
    Given the thickness of the "armor plate", and most likely just thick structural steel, the muzzle energy of the shot there will blow this "armor" to shreds. There, any shot, even sideways, will deliver an indelible sensation to the machine gunner right into the brain. Not even through the ears, but directly, through the skin-skull-intracranial fluid.
  • Peter is not the first
    Peter is not the first April 19 2020 19: 47 New
    +4
    You are all evil! wink You can’t understand the idea of ​​the Nigirian military, who, along with Bucephals, received books on military tactics between the first and second world war, where two, three-turret tanks had to be used to clear trenches for firing both on the right and left. So here they used these introduction to shell ambushes on both sides of the road. soldier
  • Cats
    Cats April 19 2020 20: 24 New
    +3
    I read once, a note by a DNR militia: they captured an intact BTR-4, which the electronics refused to use in the DBM, which made it impossible to use airborne weapons. We could not reanimate, we thought how to transfer to manual control. I don’t know what happened to them, something or not. Perhaps the situation is the same here.
  • voyaka uh
    voyaka uh April 19 2020 20: 30 New
    +2
    I think they have a lot of cartridges for a machine gun, and shells are in short supply.
    They shoot from what the ammunition is big for.
  • senima56
    senima56 April 19 2020 20: 30 New
    +2
    Why is it unclear ?! laughing The Nigerians were told: "When you learn to shoot from a machine gun, let's send shells to the 30-mm cannon!" laughing
  • VyacheSeymour
    VyacheSeymour April 19 2020 20: 45 New
    +5
    To be honest, I did not understand these jokes.



    And the casket just opens ... - visual control - there is visual control, and even more so in the African Bush ... Whoever discovered and reacted earlier, he survived! And it is not necessary from your couch people who are born (more than one generation) in war to shield fools! Each goat needs its own approach, but in a war it’s more dark ...
  • bars1
    bars1 April 19 2020 21: 04 New
    0
    Or maybe everything is explained by the "reliability" of Ukrainian copies of Soviet automatic guns?
  • Kunica
    Kunica April 19 2020 21: 04 New
    0
    It's hot there, and this is a kind of "convertible". And from 30 mm this socket cannot be hooked because such shells have not been brought in for years. Expensive treat for Nigeria from a 30mm shoot laughing
  • Eug
    Eug April 19 2020 21: 15 New
    +1
    I wonder if this "revision" cancels the warranty service or was it done after the warranty period expired?
  • Graz
    Graz April 20 2020 01: 34 New
    +3
    in my opinion everything is simple the more women there are established the more respect in africa
  • Grigory Romanenko
    Grigory Romanenko April 20 2020 03: 39 New
    -1
    BTR 4, this trash of the 19th century chtol? :), he served in the Caucasus, in our company there were 4 armored personnel carriers 80 and they were no longer considered new models ...
    1. Yaro Polk
      Yaro Polk April 20 2020 06: 23 New
      +1
      So the hands of the mechanics did not grow from the shoulders, but from ...........
    2. Zementbomber
      Zementbomber April 21 2020 06: 46 New
      +1
      2006 And constructively - it is much better than the BTR-80. But the workmanship is yes - "darkness and fog". sad
  • Yaro Polk
    Yaro Polk April 20 2020 06: 21 New
    +1
    That the Africans will not undertake to upgrade, in the end it still turns out "banana" laughing
    1. Jager
      Jager April 20 2020 12: 52 New
      +1
      It turns out a complete "bananas" laughing
      Well, with the exception of South Africa.
      1. Zementbomber
        Zementbomber April 21 2020 10: 01 New
        +1
        Well, modern South Africa is Adelung's "You and I - for a long time not the ones"... prychal ... sad .
  • sanik2020
    sanik2020 April 20 2020 10: 06 New
    0
    Just local specifics, each war has its own.
  • Petrik66
    Petrik66 April 20 2020 14: 06 New
    +1
    Soviet designers sat, leaning over the Kuhlmanns, driving raisers and compasses, considered them to be a logarithmic ruler and made a bunch of good and extremely useful things in military affairs. BTR 60, BMP 1, pc, zsu 23, kpvt and dshk. All this stuff was to mercilessly cut out the Yankees and other NATO bastard on the roads to the English Channel. And after all, what was the technique brought to, giving it into the hands of brothers in reason. they put a howitzer on a local UAZ, attach a pturs on a donkey, and the Mowgli from Nigeria improved the ukroshumersky tanchik ....
    1. Andrei Nikolaevich
      Andrei Nikolaevich April 20 2020 18: 32 New
      0
      and Mowgli from Nigeria improved the ukroshumersky tank ...
      It seems to me that "Mowgli from Square and Mowgli from Nigeria" are of the same level of peoples.
      1. Zementbomber
        Zementbomber April 21 2020 09: 58 New
        0
        I correctly understood you that you said about "superiority in level" over the Russians not only of the Sumerians (this is obvious - they generally surpassed everyone - and this is already forever - the First Civilization in History, however good ) but also of Ukrainians and Nigerians - in all the diversity of the tribes of the latter. bully
        1. Andrei Nikolaevich
          Andrei Nikolaevich April 21 2020 11: 04 New
          0
          Formulate your question correctly.
  • Shavkat Kuvatov
    Shavkat Kuvatov April 20 2020 14: 37 New
    0
    Well, if you haven’t ricocheted yet, then it will stand on.
  • Andrei Nikolaevich
    Andrei Nikolaevich April 20 2020 18: 31 New
    0
    Marvel at kume, yaks of glory of the Nigerian Cossacks.
  • primaala
    primaala April 20 2020 22: 41 New
    0
    We are talking about images that depict the BTR-4, previously purchased for the needs of the armed forces of Nigeria from the Ukrainian manufacturer KhZTM. According to the latest information, at least 10 such armored personnel carriers are in service with the Nigerian Armed Forces
    =====================
    Enough to ensure Nigeria ??? Can I adjust the pots ???
  • Galina schreder
    Galina schreder April 20 2020 23: 47 New
    0
    Well, everything is obvious, based gun, inoperative. Who knows how in Ukraine they tried to copy a mortar of the 1943 model, he will understand why, the Ukrainian gun doesn’t work
    1. Zementbomber
      Zementbomber April 21 2020 06: 48 New
      +1
      If Mayak simply copied the PM-43, then everything would be all right. But he "went his own way." sad
  • Barmal
    Barmal April 21 2020 01: 43 New
    0
    just interchangeable trunks again went to the construction of the fence of the chief of the unit, and the staff that was standing upright was cherished, or it had been spitting for a long time in all directions, and here you are, voila - the shooter in the head of the car.
  • kytx
    kytx April 21 2020 06: 55 New
    0
    Most likely with the main gun everything is in order. Just a 30mm multi-barrel is redundant and expensive and 12.7 is what the doctor ordered. And a machine gun in the nose - a good review
  • Usher
    Usher April 21 2020 09: 03 New
    0
    Do they have a war there? I dreamed of going there, but after reading, I changed my mind)