Tests of the T-14 Armata tank in the Syrian Arab Republic reported

Quite unexpected information came about testing the latest Russian weapons in Syria. On the television channel "Russia 1", Minister of Industry and Trade Denis Manturov announced information on the test application in the Syrian Arab Republic of the latest Russian tanks T-14 Armata.

The official made a short statement, confirming that the new generation of Russian tanks were indeed in Syria.

Denis Manturov:

Yes, they were in Syria. Tanks were sent to this country in order to take into account all the nuances of their use in combat conditions.

According to the minister of the Russian government, such tests and tests in combat conditions will ultimately contribute to the formation of the final appearance of these military vehicles.

Manturov also announced the timing of the start of serial deliveries of T-14 Armata tanks to the Armed Forces of the country. The official of the federal cabinet said that the start of serial deliveries of new generation tanks to the RF Armed Forces is scheduled for 2021.

The Minister did not report on the exact circumstances of these tanks in Syria.

Recall that the T-14 Armata is the only tank in the world that belongs in its design to the new generation of armored vehicles.

It is important to note that before the country's Ministry of Defense did not report T-14 tests outside of Russia. Apparently, these trials and foreign partners "missed".

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[Trevis]

Tests of the T-14 Armata tank in the Syrian Arab Republic reported

And why not?
We are waiting for confirmation from the military, and footage from the fields in Syria!

[Sky strike fighter]

It is logical in practice to run a tank in conditions of hostilities in order to correct all the comments and put into the series a completely ready-made car without jambs.

[Grigory_45]

Quote: Sky Strike fighter

It’s logical in practice to run the tank in the conditions of hostilities in order to correct all the comments and put into the series a completely ready-made car without jambs

Are you firmly convinced that all the "shoals" can be found in a couple of days? No nanotechnology!
But we, the unreasonable ones, believed that for this, in order to reveal hidden sores, the operation of an armored car in parts was necessary, at least for several years.

The dispatch to Syria (suppose that Armata really was there) is just a marketing ploy. As with the two-day "combat" use of the Su-57 in the same republic.

[Slavs]

Quote: Gregory_45

detect in a couple of days?

Why did you decide that they were there a couple of days? )))

[Grigory_45]

Quote: Slavs

Why did you decide that they were there a couple of days? )))

if the tanks had been there for more or less a long time, they would have appeared on satellite images. We are sometimes "pleased" with such German, Israeli, and American publications.

[Grigory_45]

Quote: Not a liberoid Russian

rejoice further ... whine louder ... lie more

those. in response to quite reasonable comments, you are only able to be naughty? This is a sign of great intelligence))

[Shurik70]

This SU-57 has a very characteristic silhouette (and coloring too).
Here it is on satellite images and easy to identify. What the Jews are doing.
And the tank is the tank. The satellite image has a rectangle. It is difficult to distinguish one model from another, especially when the gun is directly looking.

[Grigory_45]

Quote: Shurik70

It is difficult to distinguish one model from another

for amateurs and housewives - difficult, for specialists - no

[APASUS]

Quote: Shurik70

And the tank is the tank. The satellite image has a rectangle. It is difficult to distinguish one model from another, especially when the gun is directly looking.

Blind or something sitting at the monitors there, they can’t tell ...................

[Shurik70]

Here is the Hmeimim base in Syria.
Everything is there. And SU-57, and S-300, and "Pantsiri".
Tanks also guard this base.
Can you tell me which tanks are here?

[APASUS]

Quote: Shurik70

Can you tell me which tanks are here?

Tell me that this is exactly the kind of resolution that space exploration uses, even though I laugh heartily.

DigitalGlobe’s WorldView-1 commercial satellites have a resolution of 50 cm, that is, they can identify objects on the Earth’s surface that are more than half a meter in size. GeoEye Corporation’s GeoEye-1 satellite has a nadir resolution of 41 cm in the panchromatic range, but commercial consumers only had access to 2014 cm images until June 50. In June 2014, the U.S. Department of Commerce gave permission to sell higher resolution images . In February 2013, GeoEye joined DigitalGlobe. On August 13, 2014, DigitalGlobe launched the WorldView-3 satellite with a resolution of 31 cm. The third-generation satellite GeoEye-2 under the name WorldView-4 with a resolution of 25-34 cm was launched in November 2016.

[Shurik70]

Good. Here with what permission found the SU-57
The silhouette and characteristic strip along the edge of the wing can be seen.
But the shape of the cabin lantern is gone.

[Grigory_45]

Quote: Shurik70

Here is the Hmeimim base in Syria.
Everything is there. And SU-57, and S-300, and "Pantsiri".
Tanks also guard this base.
Can you tell me which tanks are here?

Are you sure you are viewing photos with the same resolution?
Maybe you should not write more nonsense?

[SovAr238A]

Quote: Shurik70

Here is the Hmeimim base in Syria.
Everything is there. And SU-57, and S-300, and "Pantsiri".
Tanks also guard this base.
Can you tell me which tanks are here?

And look at Google Maps.
https://www.google.com/maps/@35.4026187,35.9407668,4208m/data=!3m1!1e3

At maximum magnification

[Shurik70]

Quote: SovAr238A

And look at Google Maps.
At maximum magnification

Good example.
Here is this car, between the planes.
Maybe a gas station. Maybe a tilt truck. In the shade - most likely a tanker, but there is no exact certainty
The cab is approximately equal to the tank turret. Blurry stain.

[Nikolai Grek]

Quote: Shurik70

Quote: SovAr238A

And look at Google Maps.
At maximum magnification

Good example.
Here is this car, between the planes.
Maybe a gas station. Maybe a tilt truck. In the shade - most likely a tanker, but there is no exact certainty
The cab is approximately equal to the tank turret. Blurry stain.

You didn’t take into account that all this can be an inflatable layout !!!

[Vitaly gusin]

Quote: Shurik70

Here is the Hmeimim base in Syria.
Everything is there. And SU-57, and S-300, and "Pantsiri".
Tanks also guard this base.
Can you tell me which tanks are here?

Everyone does his job. some read satellite imagery

Satellite images show a cargo plane Il-76-MD of Russian production based on the T-4. This aircraft is the former Russian Air Force Il-76, registered with RA-76634, as evidenced by the number drawn under the cockpit and livery of the aircraft. The images show that the cargo ship is loading or unloading under the protection of several Syrian air defense systems, including three systems SA-2 and Pantsir-S1,

The images also show three active air defense points along the perimeter of the T-4 air base. All air defense facilities are equipped with Russian-made weapons systems. The first SA-2 air defense facility is located in the north, the other SA-2 air defense facility is located in the northwest, and the third SA-2 air defense facility is in the south. SA-2 Guideline (Russian designation S-75 Dvina) with command control, capable of covering 360 degrees.

The Pantsir-S1 transponder (NATO name - SA-22 Greyhound) is also visible. Panstsir-S1 is a short and medium-range missile and anti-aircraft artillery weapon manufactured by Russia. Pantsir-S1 provides spot defense for various installations and provides protection for air defense units. The Pantsir-S1 air defense system is shown.
And others change these pictures

[ROSS_51]

Quote: Vitaly Gusin

And others change these pictures

Even in your pictures there is a technique that readers could not identify ..
And perhaps they destroy such a technique ..

[Vitaly gusin]

Quote: ROSS_51

And perhaps they destroy such a technique ..

I understand your concern and desire.
But you are not the only one who wants to, and on this forum and in other media "the women shouted hurray and threw their caps into the air"
And while this did not happen, we will assume that this did not happen.

[vladcub]

"equipped with Russian-made weapons systems" it would be strange if we use Chinese systems

[for]

Quote: Shurik70

Can you tell me which tanks are here?

A snapshot of Planet Earth, representing intelligence capabilities.

[Finn]

Easy to spot. There is no barrel extension in the middle for the removal of powder gases - this is Armata.

[ROSS_51]

Quote: Finn

Easy to spot. There is no barrel extension in the middle for the removal of powder gases - this is Armata.

Or T-34-85

[Grigory_45]

Quote: ROSS_51

Or T-34-85

which is noticeably different in size.
Again - past. In intelligence, they don’t work as you imagine them.

[ROSS_51]

Quote: Gregory_45

Quote: Not a liberoid Russian

rejoice further ... whine louder ... lie more

those. in response to quite reasonable comments, you are only able to be naughty? This is a sign of great intelligence))

What are the reasonable comments? You here have fantasized for yourself the terms of the test, and on the basis of your fantasies you issue "reasonable" remarks. And of course, fools are sitting in the military-industrial complex, and you brought them to clean water. And along with Manturova.
They didn’t provide him satellite pictures .. Do you have a direct sofa with satellites? Or with the pentagon? Or maybe you have an idea how a secret technique is masked, a little more than no? For example, I saw once. There from 2 meters you can’t understand what kind of equipment .. It's not like from a satellite.
Go to the balcony, ventilate the brains of your gray gelding.

[Grigory_45]

Quote: ROSS_51

You have fantasized yourself the terms of the test

where did you fantasize? Quote to the studio)

Quote: ROSS_51

Satellite images did not provide him

Did I ask them?

Quote: ROSS_51

Go to the balcony, ventilate the brains of your gray gelding.

that's it, take your advice) And then you write mura and imagination.

[ROSS_51]

Quote: Gregory_45

where did you fantasize? Quote to the studio).

Quote: Gregory_45

and you are firmly convinced that all the "shoals" can be found for a couple of days? Nothing of nanotechnology!
Sent to Syria (suppose Armata there really was) - only marketing ploy. As with two-day "combat" the use of Su-57 in the same republic.

That's all in a decent society called bullshit ..

[Grigory_45]

Quote: ROSS_51

That's all in a decent society called

or call the one who did not understand what is written, obscene words.
You’re famously doing it - you don’t understand a damn thing what is written, but you blame me. This is just a reason to think about your mental abilities.

Quote: ROSS_51

the timing of the test

Well, how long was Armata in Syria? How many tanks were there? Where were you located? Did you participate in the database, in which area?

And - where are the quotes? Where did I request pictures?

Farted in a puddle, in general) Continuous blah blah blah

[ROSS_51]

Quote: Gregory_45

Well, how long was Armata in Syria? How many tanks were there? Where were you located? Did you participate in the database, in which area?

But did I say any terms for the stay of the T-14 in Syria? Why did you decide that you can ask me such questions? How did you decide that I would spend time on the millionth forum troll?

[Grigory_45]

Quote: ROSS_51

But did I say any terms for the stay of the T-14 in Syria?

that means you cannot refute me. But call a dreamer. So maybe you are a dreamer who does not really know anything, but didn’t miss the chance to blurt out?

Quote: ROSS_51

Why did you decide that you can ask me such questions?

because you decided to criticize me. Criticizing - justify your words, otherwise you are just a balabol

[ROSS_51]

Quote: Gregory_45

that means you cannot refute me. But call a dreamer. So maybe you are a dreamer who does not really know anything, but didn’t miss the chance to blurt out?

In general, do not care what you think there. I have not fooled weakly since childhood, so move on. And I did not call you a dreamer — I called you a primitive troll. And this is in the framework of decency yet. If it weren’t for the rules of the forum .. For you there is a capacious, powerful, obscene word .. yes, yes .. I see the word balabol, you know, there won’t be a synonym, I'm sure.

Quote: Gregory_45

because you decided to criticize me. Criticizing - justify your words, otherwise you are just a balabol

The burden of proof lies with the approver. That you claimed that 2-3 days .. I repeat, I do not give a damn about your problems with the psyche and for the sake of which, asserting yourself, you have flooded the whole branch with your nonsense. But I do not need to prove anything - you are completely not curious to me. That's it, I'm done with you.

[sergey osipov_2]

do not waste time on this ram.

[Martin]

Quote: Gregory_45

Well, how long was Armata in Syria? How many tanks were there? Where were you located? Did you participate in the database, in which area?

Gregory, in order to bring the product to a series at different stages of its design and development, various types of tests are carried out, for which, in turn, PM are developed (program and test procedure). It is being developed by serious specialists and for a technique such as a tank (any one, or an airplane, or a ship) are closed by the bar ... well ... Particleboard, at least. And in this PM those tests are prescribed that (without consulting you), experts consider necessary. If they consider that Armata should be in Syria for 1,5 days, then they will write to PM, and the testers will do it. It is believed that 15 balloons should be hung on the cannon of Almaty - they will hang. And you, watching the balls through the satellite, will giggle over them here, which, like, are stupid. To them, which is characteristic, this will not hinder in any way: giggle at your health.
This is me, as a professional test engineer wrote.

[Grigory_45]

Quote: Martyn

without consulting you)

just after consulting with us. As a design engineer I wrote this to you. All this cuisine is familiar to me from the inside, and therefore it is obvious to me that 1,5 days spent in Syria. in no way affect the fine-tuning of the machine, it is simply unrealistic to do something in such a short period of time. And none of the leading testers, the general, without instructions from above, will enter into the test program such an idiotic item - "1,5 days of pokatushki in Syria."
Remember how the Su-25 was tested in Afghanistan. Or like a BMP-2 in the same place. Here it was - tests in combat conditions.

Advertising, marketing ploy. This is the only reasonable explanation for the transfer of cars over distant lands.

Quote: Martyn

This is me, as a professional test engineer wrote

apparently there are still unprofessional?

[nikon7717]

Respected! Why did you decide that the test program was 2-3 days? She was quite possibly a month. We made an announcement upon completion, created a hype in the media. Advertising for the future does not hurt. And now there is no one there)). And the enemy will not know too much. Look for the wind in the field. And the designer will process the data in silence. If you are a constructor, you must understand the test programs and deadlines and thank specialists for ensuring the secrecy and safety of colleagues. And you are trolling. Not pretty.

[Martin]

Quote: Gregory_45

apparently there are still unprofessional?

Well, I agree. A clumsy phrase. I meant "acting at the moment."

Quote: Gregory_45

This is me, as a design engineer wrote. I know this whole kitchen from the inside, and therefore it is obvious to me that 1,5 days spent in Syria. in no way affect the finishing of the machine

Well, about 1,5 days you thought up yourself. You did not read the PM, and you do not know the actual dates. Perhaps they are still there.

Quote: Gregory_45

Advertising, marketing ploy. This is the only reasonable explanation for the transfer of cars over distant lands.

Not for transfer, but for the throwing of this information today and right now. A normal element of information warfare. It has nothing to do with real trials in the same Syria.
What is the article about? An official threw in the info that the tanks were in Syria. That's it, period. The rest is speculation. What options, for example, can I see?
1. The official does not lie and there were tanks in Syria (not 1,5 days, of course). Quite possible. They carried out their PM there, and made a stuffing of information after the tests.
2. The official is lying, and the stuffing is made as part of the information war. Well, and on health. That first, that the second option suits me.

[aver2000]

That's all in a decent society called bullshit ..

Ross, generally in a decent society they call nonsense that the information on tanks is voiced by the Minister of Commerce, and not the Minister of Defense))))

[Miron]

Quote: aver2000

That's all in a decent society called bullshit ..

Ross, generally in a decent society they call nonsense that the information on tanks is voiced by the Minister of Commerce, and not the Minister of Defense))))

Nonsense is that such rogues as this comment on the decisions of Russian ministers

[Nikolai Grek]

Quote: Gregory_45

if the tanks had been there for more or less a long time, they would have appeared on satellite images. We are sometimes "pleased" with such German, Israeli, and American publications.

and you open your mouth even more and believe more in foreign publications !!!

[Grigory_45]

Quote: Nikolai the Greek

and you open your mouth even more and believe more in foreign publications !!

and you are more rude - show the absence of gray matter
If you have not seen satellite images of Hmeimim, for example, then this is your problem. Pictures with any changes at the airbase immediately fly around the world.
Do you think that it’s possible to hide several tanks that are actively participating in the database for, say, a couple of weeks from foreign intelligence? Yes you are a naive boy))

[Lipchanin]

Quote: Gregory_45

Do you think that it’s possible to hide several tanks that are actively participating in the database for, say, a couple of weeks from foreign intelligence?

Pray now for them?

It is important to note that before the country's Ministry of Defense did not report T-14 tests outside of Russia. Apparently, foreign partners also "missed" these tests.

And this is to the question of

just a marketing ploy.

[Grigory_45]

Quote: Lipchanin

Quote: Gregory_45
Do you think that it’s possible to hide several tanks that are actively participating in the database for, say, a couple of weeks from foreign intelligence?

Pray now for them?

This is your own business. And it was written for those who firmly believe that tanks can be hidden like a needle in a haystack. What kind of databases are these when nobody sees tanks? Neither the barmalei against whom they were allegedly used were used, nor the satellites who scan the entire territory of Syria several times a day?

Quote: Lipchanin

It is important to note that before the country's Ministry of Defense did not report T-14 tests outside of Russia. Apparently, these trials and foreign partners "missed".

And this is to the question of
just a marketing ploy.

Check out what marketing means. It is difficult to talk with a person who does not have basic concepts

[Lipchanin]

Quote: Gregory_45

Check out what marketing means.

Please familiarize yourself

Organization of production and marketing of products, based on a study of the needs of the market for goods and services.

And was it all in Syria? Studying promotion?
Well, you yourself know that you are wrong, but with persistence that deserves a better application, you are still trying to "save face"

[Grigory_45]

Hard case. Stay further in your delusions)

[Nikolai Grek]

Quote: Gregory_45

If you have not seen satellite images of Hmeimim, for example, then this is your problem

where is the picture of how Russia shot down a Boeing over the in Ukraine ?? !!! Do you really believe in everything they show ?? !!!

Quote: Gregory_45

Do you think that it’s possible to hide several tanks that are actively participating in the database for, say, a couple of weeks from foreign intelligence?

where they slept on a large-scale terrorist attack on September 11, and provided false information on Iraq, and Armata quietly profuc !!! Yes, you are a naive boy, if so believe in the power of foreign intelligence !!!

[Grigory_45]

Quote: Nikolai the Greek

where is the picture of how Russia shot down a Boeing over the in Ukraine ?? !!!

somewhere in the archives of the secret services. And you know that they only publish what is beneficial to them, and they know how not to pull skeletons from cabinets and information that compromises them. In that picture there is no evidence that the Boeing was shot down by Russian air defense systems. There most likely dirt on Kiev. And they can say everything. anything - they didn’t cut off their tongue.
As for the same Khmeimim, as soon as new cars appeared at the airbase, there were also pictures. As was the case with the A-50, as was the case with the aircraft from Kuznetsov, as was the case with the Su-57.
There were pictures after the strike on Shayrat. Etc.
Well, you continue to smile - it suits you)

[Nikolai Grek]

Quote: Gregory_45

somewhere in the archives of the secret services.

yes you are a troll ... or a really naive, not very smart person !!

[Grigory_45]

Quote: Nikolai the Greek

yes you are a troll ... or a really naive, not very smart person !!

should not have been introduced once again, I already know about you)

[aesculapius]

Yes, everyone already knows that the September 11th special services were carried out (yeah, they overslept).
As well as hysteria with Kovid used to pump digital concentration camps

[Lopatov]

Quote: Nikolai the Greek

and you open your mouth even more and believe more in foreign publications !!!

What is faith here?
The same Russian 2A65s "burned" in less than a week

[Gray brother]

Quote: Gregory_45

would light up on satellite images.

Yeah, right now. There is no continuous satellite coverage, if you wish, you can drag a drunk Godzilla through the "windows" and no one will notice.

[Grigory_45]

Quote: Gray Brother

There is no continuous satellite coverage, if you wish, you can drag a drunk Godzilla through the "windows" and no one will notice.

Godzil can be dragged and can (if you're lucky), but quietly keep active databases - it will not work
And everyone needs to gouge out the eyes of everyone around - suddenly, who will see the tank, God forbid, take a picture?

[Gray brother]

Quote: Gregory_45

And everyone needs to gouge out the eyes of everyone around - suddenly, who will see the tank, God forbid, take a picture?

The main thing is not to leave witnesses and that’s all. Business something.
They surrounded the barmaley and let's put experiments on them.

[Grigory_45]

Quote: Gray Brother

The main thing is not to leave witnesses and that’s all. Business something.
They surrounded the barmaley and let's put experiments on them.

when there is nothing to answer, it is better to remain silent

[Gray brother]

Quote: Gregory_45

when there is nothing to answer, it is better to remain silent

Why nothing? I just answered you.

[Grigory_45]

Quote: Gray Brother

Why nothing? I just answered you

you, sorry, wrote nonsense.

[Gray brother]

Quote: Gregory_45

you, sorry, wrote nonsense.

This is just folk wisdom. No body - no business.

[Grigory_45]

Quote: Gray Brother

No body - no business

looks more like a saying of mokhushniks. Do you align the Russian contingent with them?

[Gray brother]

Quote: Gregory_45

Do you align the Russian contingent with them?

And we have people everywhere. And in prison, and at large, and in the army - everyone is different, then, nevertheless, they are all people.
You may have the same wooden soldiers as Oorfene Jus - I don’t know, but here we are all different.

[SovAr238A]

Quote: Gray Brother

This is just folk wisdom. No body - no business.

Well, yes, when even special forces lose their own, working as advanced aircraft controllers - the very topic is to talk about "no body - no business" ...
Like sarcasm, with tears in his eyes.
I hope you understand what I wrote?

Not understood? Then all the explanations are superfluous ... You cannot fill the empty barrel of water ...

[Gray brother]

Quote: SovAr238A

Well, yes, when even special forces lose their own, working as advanced aircraft controllers - the very topic is to talk about "no body - no business" ...

Did you want to hurt me now? Useless.

[Lopatov]

Quote: Gray Brother

Yeah, right now. No continuous satellite coverage

There is a continuous coverage of cell phones with photo function.

In short, personally, I’m not sure that they even visited there.

[Vitaly gusin]

Quote: Spade

In short, personally, I’m not sure that they even visited there.

In the Arab media 20 \ 01 \ 20 such a message appeared.
That new tanks arrived at the port of Tartus in Syria, a landing ship. It has already been confirmed several times that it supplies military equipment and weapons to Syria, is capable of transporting more than 300 soldiers on board, 12 tanks and several other armored vehicles.
But this is the Arab media 50/50.

[Gray brother]

Quote: Spade

There is a continuous coverage of cell phones with photo function.

So what? You won’t be able to share photos without a network.

[Vitaly gusin]

Quote: Gray Brother

Yeah, right now. There is no continuous satellite coverage,

In Israel there are satellites of the Ofek system. 8 of them pass over these territories, surveys are made every 2-3 hours, with different equipment, and everything that changes its position is clear what is visible, but what of the Ofek 10 radar satellite statically checks.
So this territory is completely under control.

[Gray brother]

Quote: Vitaly Gusin

every 2-3 hours shooting

Well, here is the window.

Quote: Vitaly Gusin

and everything that changes its position is clear what is visible,

There are a lot of equipment riding. What is the point of paying attention to a couple of units?

[Vitaly gusin]

Quote: Gray Brother

There are a lot of equipment riding. What is the point of paying attention to a couple of units?

Yes, ride, but under control.
The Israeli Air Force UAV launched a missile strike on a car that contained militants from the Hezbollah terrorist organization.

Above, I gave examples of satellite intelligence.

[Gray brother]

Quote: Vitaly Gusin

The Israeli Air Force UAV launched a missile strike on a car that contained militants from the Hezbollah terrorist organization.

And the "Armata" slammed. You can only commit terrorist acts.

Quote: Vitaly Gusin

Above, I gave examples of satellite intelligence.

Above, I gave you an example of a window between the passages of satellites from your own words.

[Vitaly gusin]

Quote: Gray Brother

And the "Armata" slammed. You can only commit terrorist acts.

1. Was there a boy? And even if there was, where the evidence that they slammed, if you weren’t informed, it proves nothing.
2. Please, an example of a terrorist act ONE.

[Gray brother]

Quote: Vitaly Gusin

1. Was there a boy?

Well, if your ears slammed, then of course there wasn’t

[Vitaly gusin]

Quote: Gray Brother

Well, if your ears slammed, then of course there wasn’t

And not with ears and not with eyes.
More than 300 sorties were fired and more than 1800 missiles were fired at Iranian targets in Syria, among them there were smaller targets, but they posed a real threat to Israel. It is possible that this is generally not (from the word in general) interested. poses no threat.

[Gray brother]

Quote: Vitaly Gusin

More than 300 sorties were fired and more than 1800 missiles were fired at Iranian targets in Syria, among them there were smaller targets, but they posed a real threat to Israel. It is possible that this is generally not (from the word in general) interested. poses no threat.

You can hold a parade about this)))

[Vitaly gusin]

Quote: Gray Brother

You can hold a parade about this)))

The parade, the Punts, raspil it is not said about us.

[Gray brother]

Quote: Vitaly Gusin

The parade, the Punts, raspil it is not said about us.

For you, this is apartheid, Zionism and occupation.

[Vitaly gusin]

Quote: Gray Brother

For you, this is apartheid, Zionism and occupation.

Apartheid, no one has blamed you
UN occupation recognized Crimea
Zionism YES, YES, YES! Jewish nationalist, ideological and political movement that arose in the XIX century. and the preaching association of Jews of all countries of the world on the basis of their community historical homeland - Palestine.

[Grigory_45]

Quote: Gray Brother

Quote: Vitaly Gusin
every 2-3 hours shooting

Well, here is the window.

those. In your opinion, were the Almaty databases exclusively on schedule? Probably, the schedule was conveyed to the barmaley that they will be extinguished from so many to so many, and here is a smoke break and lunch, in which we urge you to sit quietly - for the satellite flies !? Bredyatin write)
And - only Israeli satellites fly over Syria? Do the satellites of other countries go that far?

[Gray brother]

Quote: Gregory_45

, Armata databases were kept exclusively on schedule?

No, why? It’s a bit of a maskset and it’s not clear what kind of car it is, and hundreds of tanks ride there.

Quote: Gregory_45

Do the satellites of other countries go that far?

They also have windows. Remember how the Su-57 suddenly appeared on Hmeimim.

[Grigory_45]

Quote: Gray Brother

Remember how the Su-57 suddenly appeared on Hmeimim.

and the very next day the whole world knew about it. There were satellite images of Khmeimim, photos and videos from observer phones in all social networks.

[Gray brother]

Quote: Gregory_45

and the very next day the whole world knew about it.

Well, they were openly standing, of course, he knew - because they didn’t hide.
And where is the process of driving? No.

[Grigory_45]

Quote: Gray Brother

Quote: Gregory_45

and the very next day the whole world knew about it.

Well, they were openly standing, of course, he knew - because they didn’t hide.
And where is the process of driving? No.

is it interesting? An interesting fact is the presence of aircraft at the air base.

and Armata, apparently, moves underground, because she is not visible?
There is a video and photo of the T-50 flying and landing at Khmeimim. And you know that very well.
As you also know, it is impossible to hide equipment for any length of time. But for some reason you continue to write nonsense, sliding down to very childish and silly arguments.

[TAMBU]

publications drain all slag. Nobody merges valuable Old.

[Grigory_45]

Quote: TAMBU

publications drain all slag. Nobody merges valuable Old.

so maybe in this article, following your own words, the slag is written?

[Xnumx vis]

Quote: Gregory_45

Quote: Slavs

Why did you decide that they were there a couple of days? )))

if the tanks had been there for more or less a long time, they would have appeared on satellite images. We are sometimes "pleased" with such German, Israeli, and American publications.

Sure tank, outwardly changed .. Disguised. Therefore, the publications you respect could not please the "honest" public!

[Grigory_45]

Quote: 30 vis

I’m sure the tank, outwardly changed .. Camouflaged

an invisibility cloak was thrown at him, yeah)

[Xnumx vis]

To modify the tower, the silhouette of the tank is that a problem? To arrange no props? Impossible technically?

[Grigory_45]

Quote: 30 vis

To modify the tower, the silhouette of the tank is that a problem?

to make crew actions as difficult as possible? Well, smart!

Quote: 30 vis

To arrange no props? Impossible technically?

in Syria suddenly canceled cell phones? This rabbitfish would be photographed about ten times, and we would discuss what kind of aggregate the Syrians had planned. But just don’t disguise yourself, but on the photo you can see one thing - both which chassis and which gun. Would crawl out. Do you really think that there are only one and two people in the world (with the exception of you, of course)?

[Xnumx vis]

Quote: Gregory_45

are they all alone (except for you, of course)?

Any versions have the right to be voiced. Let’s not give each other various interesting characteristics .. I, you don’t know, you are me.

[Grigory_45]

Quote: 30 vis

Any versions have the right to be voiced

only delusional - no need. They are already full in this thread.

The British in Africa during the Second World War used camouflage, making up tanks for trucks. This worked quite well against air reconnaissance. But now the times are different - there are a whole bunch of satellites in orbit (and they have not only cameras on them), each resident has a telephone with a camera. Do not hide already.
In addition, the same English disguise was used (and worked) only on the march. Before the battle, all this props from the tank was simply discarded - because it interferes with the crew. At least one of this should have prompted you to not post your comment.

[SovAr238A]

Quote: 30 vis

Sure tank, outwardly changed .. Disguised. Therefore, the publications you respect could not please the "honest" public!

Under the Toyota cart.
Therefore no one noticed

[venik]

Quote: Gregory_45

if the tanks were more or less a long time, they would light up on satellite images.

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For such a "bold statement" you need at least a LITTLE idea of ​​WHAT this is satellite intelligence!
Judging by your comment, you don’t have the slightest idea what it is and what it is (satellite intelligence) OPPORTUNITY!
If I am wrong and you imagine WHAT it is, then please answer a few questions, namely:

1. What capture band can a modern opto-electronic reconnaissance satellite have, and at what intervals does it fly through this territory?

2. How many TOTAL optoelectronic reconnaissance satellites are currently in orbit (operational)?
This will help you answer the following questions:

3. WHICH part of the Earth’s surface is controlled by optoelectronic intelligence satellites today?

4. HOW MUCH optoelectronic intelligence satellites are needed to continuously (within 24 hours) to control the territory with an area of ​​185 sq. km?

This in turn will allow you to answer the LAST question:

5. And what is the PROBABILITY of detection mobile an object of 15 square meters in an area of ​​185 square kilometers (Syria) for ONE month?
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And after that we will return to the discussion of the issue, which sometimes makes us happy:

Quote: Gregory_45

then German, then Israeli, then American editions.

With sincere greetings!

[Grigory_45]

Quote: venik

And what is the PROBABILITY of detecting a mobile facility with an area of ​​15 square meters in an area of ​​185 square kilometers (Syria area) within ONE month?

almost 100%.
Because you are based on erroneous assumptions.
A tank is not a horse in a vacuum. Especially secret. He simply must have a very numerous retinue - he must have a base, he must be serviced, refuel, replenish the BC, take indicators from the control equipment (otherwise, what kind of test?), Etc. This is a whole horde of people (both military and civilian) and technology. Nearby there should be an ARV - because the tank, in which case, it is simply necessary to evacuate. Such a movement is simply unrealistic not to notice. But it is alleged that the tanks participated in the database. Well, not one tank crawled to the front line? As part of a group. And that too would not go unnoticed.
2. No need to track the entire territory of Syria. It is enough to look more closely at specific regions (where the databases are located, where new equipment is deployed, where the Russian contingent is located) It is unlikely that anyone will be interested in some seedy village in southern Syria.

There is one of two things: either the tank was not in Syria, or it was there for a very short period of time, and even more did not participate in the database. We rode, shot a bit in the desert, far from prying eyes - loaded the board and home. And they gave it as a test in the conditions of the database - to the joy of the urry patriots ..
In any case, the article is a hoax.

[Usher]

Could you show it? It became interesting.

[Nikolai Grek]

Quote: Slavs

Quote: Gregory_45

detect in a couple of days?

Why did you decide that they were there a couple of days? )))

and he is the same tester of Almaty !!! right now he rivets from the tank comments !!!

[Sky strike fighter]

And who told you that Armata was tested for a couple of days, and not for several years? Armata participated in the Victory Parade in 2015, that is, 5 years ago and there was plenty of time for everything to bring the tank to mind.

[Grigory_45]

Quote: Sky Strike fighter

and there was plenty of time for everything about everything to bring the tank to mind.

that's it. Why then drive her to Syria?
However, you yourself write:

Quote: Sky Strike fighter

It’s logical in practice to run the tank in the conditions of hostilities in order to correct all the comments and put into the series a completely ready-made car without jambs

What could give a few days in Syria?

[SovAr238A]

Quote: Gregory_45

Quote: Sky Strike fighter

and there was plenty of time for everything about everything to bring the tank to mind.

that's it. Why then drive her to Syria?
However, you yourself write:

Quote: Sky Strike fighter

It’s logical in practice to run the tank in the conditions of hostilities in order to correct all the comments and put into the series a completely ready-made car without jambs

What could give a few days in Syria?

Nothing but a direct clash with the tanks of the Turks - Syria would not give anything.

On the contrary, if the T-14 would appear in Syria, it would become the subject of hunting for him all the intelligence and special forces of the world.
And it would not be at all up to combat trials.

And everything else is tested at our landfills.

[seregatara1969]

War replaces years at the training ground. Different situeviny and horseradish reveal shoals even where they are not waiting. War - a training ground compressed to the limit, a very valuable experience for engineers. Helicopter engineers slept near cars at the beginning of military trials in Syria. We finalized it on the spot, drew it on my knee and sent hot drawings to the factory for revision. The same glands were immediately tested in battle. I think it was the same with the tank. After the battle, everyone is to inspect the tank, the crew is tortured for comments, they immediately think over something and argue to hoarseness. This is a valuable experience!

[maiman61]

I think that you are absolutely right! Under Shoigu, everything is done promptly and not standardly, that is, effectively! I am amazed how he began to build a hospital, when only the coronovirus smelled! But he turned out to be right stopudovo. There are suggestions that this infection is for a long time, and hospitals are already under construction and are being commissioned!

[Grigory_45]

Quote: seregatara1969

After the battle, everyone is to inspect the tank, the crew is tortured for comments, they immediately think over something and argue to hoarseness. This is a valuable experience!

after what battle ?! Are you sure that Armata took part in the battles? Nonsense)

Quote: seregatara1969

War replaces years at the training ground

only subject to the massive use of technology, active hostilities and any extended period of time. In Syria there was neither one nor the other, nor the third.

[nemez]

In the Finnish tested kv-1, kv-2, smk, a-20. all in a single copy.

[Grigory_45]

Quote: nemez

In the Finnish tested kv-1, kv-2, smk, a-20. all in a single copy.

and now what should they do like in Finnish? Then the tanks went directly from the factory

And now we turn on the brain, and try to understand how much sense there is from trials of a single tank, and even more so, from its participation in the database?

People like you are surprised. They try by hook or by crook (even fantastic and stupid explanations) to justify the idiotic statements and deeds of domestic managers. Just because Vanka is always right, he is always clean, even if in de..me smeared.

[Simargl]

Quote: seregatara1969

After the battle, everyone is to inspect the tank, the crew is tortured for comments, they immediately think over something and argue to hoarseness. This is a valuable experience!

Yes, a person simply does not understand what technology is.
Engineers can do anything, but on the ground, in battle, everything superfluous will be revealed, shortcomings will come out instantly. What was beautiful at the training ground would be unnecessary or insufficient ...

[SovAr238A]

Quote: seregatara1969

Helicopter engineers slept near cars at the beginning of military trials in Syria. We finalized it on the spot, drew it on my knee and sent hot drawings to the factory for revision. The same glands were immediately tested in battle.

I understand that it is "patriotic" - but why is it so stupid?


Where do you get this from?
Just send the records of 1941 to 2020?
Without thinking about which engineers are now.
Why should they sleep on the strip?
How can drawings be made on the knee and sent "hot"?
Do you know the technical regulations for changing the technological map of any product and any part?


You're lying all.
Just lying.

[Katanikotael]

Uranium was not there for long, but a bunch of flaws were revealed that were not found at the landfills.
Armata seems to be positioned as a command vehicle for several t-90s, which completely protect our bases in Syria, maybe for this they drove a couple there, who knows?

[Grigory_45]

Quote: Katanikotael

Uranium was not there for long, but a bunch of flaws were revealed

Uranus was a crude machine, these same flaws would come out (and most likely even knew about them) at the test site with any serious test program.
Have you ever taken part in trials, do you know how they are carried out?

[SovAr238A]

Quote: Katanikotael

Uranium was not there for long, but a bunch of flaws were revealed that were not found at the landfills.
Armata seems to be positioned as a command vehicle for several t-90s, which completely protect our bases in Syria, maybe for this they drove a couple there, who knows?

Uranium is neither raw nor unfinished.
Uranium is simply a failure in concept.
They have no place in the fighting.

And that Armata will be supposedly a command machine - some new twist.

[Lipchanin]

Quote: Gregory_45

just a marketing ploy.

Good marketing that no one knows about

[Grigory_45]

Quote: Lipchanin

Good marketing that no one knows about

How does it not know? Manturov boasted

[Lipchanin]

Quote: Gregory_45

Manturov boasted

When they got them out of there
[Quote] Sent to Syria (suppose Armata really was there) is just a marketing ploy. [/ quote]
How does it fit secretly sent, but is this a marketing ploy?

[Grigory_45]

Quote: Lipchanin

When they got them out of there

So what? The main thing is that the tank took part in the war! This is a marketing ploy. Although, in fact, there was no military necessity (as well as an allegedly some kind of mythical "check") in the presence of a tank in the SAR

[Lipchanin]

Quote: Gregory_45

This is the marketing ploy.

You really are already twisted so that you started to carry out frank BAD!
Marketing is

Studying the market demand for goods and services

Where have you seen this in Syria?

[Grigory_45]

Quote: Lipchanin

began to carry outright BAD!

you are talking nonsense. Marketing - a set of actions to promote the product to potential buyers in order to obtain benefits for the seller in the sale of the product (if absolutely simple).

[Lipchanin]

Quote: Gregory_45

Marketing - a set of actions to promote the product to potential buyers in order to obtain benefits for the seller in the sale of the product (if absolutely simple).

But what kind of marketing is it, if NO ONE knows about the tests and their results ??
For implementation, ADVERTISING
Have you seen the commercials about testing the tank in Syria?

[Roman123567]

You might think we have seen a lot of commercials about submarines ..))
And in general .. potential buyers, apparently, choose tanks for their commercials .. like chewing gum ..
They have already given an example about a couple of dryers that flew to Syria for two days ..
It seems like it is not difficult to conclude, the tests were, to identify numerous stocks, or PR / marketing ..

[Roman123567]

Yes, listen already, that Gregory 45 writes, since you yourself do not understand ..
Was there Armata or not, but to crow and to promote is explicit marketing ..

And the fact that no one dares to risk sending such a tank directly to the battle is just not clear to the child .. And the fact that he had been there for weeks of testing would not be a secret ..
And the fact that for not only days no sores can be detected is also logical ..

People have already forgotten how to put two plus two in their head ..

[Lipchanin]

Quote: Roman123567

but crowing and promoting is explicit marketing ..

What to promote ??
What were they there? Does the potential buyer know the test results?
And where for PR videos from Syria?

[Roman123567]

And here the buyer, I'm sorry Hospadi ..
Even just screaming that our tank / plane / ship is the most fashionable and coolest is already a PR .. Even if the tank is not planned for sale at all !!
Armata and without any sales are constantly touted as the best tank (I do not dispute this at all) ..
It’s possible to guess without clues, for what purpose is it all pronounced to the whole world ??
For the same purpose, he allegedly passed trials triumphantly in Syria ..

[Vlad5307]

You don’t have to convince Grisha already convinced that the land is the territory of truth for him, and here you eat your pickled hedgehogs.

[Nikolai Grek]

Quote: Gregory_45

Are you firmly convinced that all the "shoals" can be found in a couple of days? No nanotechnology!
But we, the unreasonable ones, believed that for this, in order to reveal hidden sores, the operation of an armored car in parts was necessary, at least for several years.

and from what year on Armata have you been working as a tester in sweat? !!!

[good]

On this tank, in addition to mechanics and weapons, there is also a mass of electronics that must be tested in the real conditions of modern warfare where a lot of various electronic equipment of "partners" works.
Resource tests should be carried out under conditions of experimental military operation, but without using modern military operations in real conditions, this is not a weapon, but an expensive piece of iron in a vacuum.
Well, there’s nothing wrong with making a real use for potential buyers.

[Grigory_45]

Quote: d0bry

Well, there’s nothing wrong with making real use for potential buyers

there is nothing wrong with that. The whole thing is how it is organized, and also in the presentation of this event. It's about that.
Should the presence of a tank in the war zone be considered a participation in them? Obviously not. If that were the case, we would know about it from that side.
You yourself write that in this region there are a lot of intelligence systems - and silence? What kind of databases are these when no one has seen the tank? Was a tank used against someone? And they also did not notice him? But the tank is the latest, the interest in it is very huge.
And if there were just pokatushki in the Syrian climate, then this is not participation in the database.

That is, there is a place to be false information, and if you speak the Russian language - intentional fraud. PR.

[AVA77]

And how is this organized? And what kind of Russian word is PR?

[oligofren32]

[quote = Gregory_45] [quote = Sky Strike fighter] is just a marketing ploy. As with the two-day "combat" use of the Su-57 in the same republic. [/ Quote]
Israeli satellite images do not exist since any local expert knows that the armata can only move at idle speed on the paving stones of the red square, and for real combat conditions the tank needed a seagull engine whose R&D was turned down and the allocated money was stolen by his friends. Infa weaving, this is one taxi driver for me - a former tanker, told

[SSR]

Quote: Gregory_45

Are you firmly convinced that all the "shoals" can be found in a couple of days?

Are you sure that this is unnecessary?
You do not please however.

[Grigory_45]

Quote from S.S.R.

Quote: Gregory_45

Are you firmly convinced that all the "shoals" can be found in a couple of days?

Are you sure that this is unnecessary?
You do not please however.

Are you sure you understood what was written? I'm sure not. Although, black in Russian. Russian is not native?
Or are you also sure that it was worth bringing the tank to Syria, and the local climate affected both the tank and the test crews in such a way that in three days they revealed all the flaws of the tank that they could not catch during the years of testing in Russia?

[Chaldon48]

However, because of the presence of these "shoals" people can die, the crews of these tanks, does this bother anyone?

[Professor]

Quote: Sky Strike fighter

It is logical in practice to run a tank in conditions of hostilities in order to correct all the comments and put into the series a completely ready-made car without jambs.

Is it logical to send unused equipment into battle to identify defects, flaws and shortcomings? But how to write off the dead "testers"? How are the accident victims?

[Gray brother]

Quote: professor

Is it logical to send unused equipment into battle to identify defects, flaws and shortcomings? But how to write off the dead "testers"? How are the accident victims?

It has no analogues in the world, a tank. The time will come and he will tear your merkava like an ace warmer.

[Professor]

Quote: Gray Brother

Quote: professor

Is it logical to send unused equipment into battle to identify defects, flaws and shortcomings? But how to write off the dead "testers"? How are the accident victims?

It has no analogues in the world, a tank. The time will come and he will tear your merkava like an ace warmer.

It will be so. All 5 front tanks will tear the armada of Merkav.

[Gray brother]

Quote: professor

It will be so. All 5 front tanks will tear the armada of Merkav.

No, ceremonial tanks will remain in the parade, mass production will not begin soon, next year.
And export will go even later.
But they will be, one way or another.

[andreykolesov123]

Quote: Gray Brother

But they will be, one way or another.

Remember that you are not so much experiencing a Russian tank as a sequential stock for an Israeli tyrant. There was Tirana-5, Tirana-6, so there will be some Tyrana-14. Good luck to your testers.

[bukhach]

So the pendulum of history can swing in the other direction and the merkavas can become preparations. Or do you firmly believe in the impossibility of such an event?

[andreykolesov123]

Quote: Buhach

So the pendulum of history can swing in the other direction and the merkavas can become preparations. Or do you firmly believe in the impossibility of such an event?

Everything can be, but for this you need to get out of the couch and first clean up your house, and not try to do it for 3000 km from your own. And at that moment when your home will improve, the attitude of Russia to Israel will be completely different, the same as that of all the rich countries of Europe.

[bukhach]

Again, for your sake, you believe in your own righteousness and tell us what to do and where to do it. You let us decide for ourselves what to do and how to do it, all the more so as to you, and, in fact, to others. we try to put things in order to the best of your abilities and capabilities, unlike you. And as far as mileage is concerned, it is to your benefactors from the USA and other NATO countries that they forgot not 3000 but much more kilometers from their borders. After all, you also sin far, so Why is this attempt to inject? You have accumulated bile, you see, a lot, but this is your problem. the first meaning has not left you - everything, absolutely everything, it may be as if it were not good for you or us.

[andreykolesov123]

Quote: Buhach

to your benefactors from the USA and other NATO countries

Everything is in order at home, they can afford it. They do not need to tighten their belts in order to invest billions in the next military campaign. If you have a lot of extra money: each family is provided with housing, a road, gas, warm water are brought to each village, then please squander as you like. But reading the Internet there is a completely opposite opinion, many people complain about a decline in living standards. And this decline is partly a consequence of the Syrian campaign.

[bukhach]

Reading the Internet you can learn a lot of interesting things, I do not argue, but taking everything on faith from this world garbage dump is not even funny. Thank you for caring for our population, only where from those who "can afford" so many homeless and poor people. The welfare society is impossible, human nature will not give and nothing can be done about it. As for the decline in the standard of living, this is true, but it applies not only to Russia and, then, everyone determines his own level of wealth for himself and the inability to buy a new car or go abroad drives him out of himself. Before the Syrian company, we had 1 Chechen, 2 and Afghan, etc. All of them affected the welfare not for the better, there is some kind of tradition, here you are right.

[andreykolesov123]

Quote: Buhach

All of them affected well-being not for the better, some kind of tradition is direct, here you are right.

This is the choice of every nation. Russia is the richest country in the world, your standard of living could be several times higher.

[Lipchanin]

Quote: professor

It is logical to send equipment not accepted for service

Is it more logical to adopt defective equipment?
Or does the fu-35 example teach nothing?

[Professor]

Quote: Lipchanin

Quote: professor

It is logical to send equipment not accepted for service

Is it more logical to adopt defective equipment?
Or does the fu-35 example teach nothing?

Teaches. 13 years in service, 500 manufactured vehicles, thousands of trained pilots, hundreds of thousands of flight hours, successful combat experience. You at your age are ashamed not to know this.

[Gray brother]

Quote: professor

500 manufactured devices, thousands of trained pilots

Why do we need thousands of pilots for 500 vehicles? Are they running in circles around the takeoff wearing God's Eye helmets?

[Ingvar 72]

Quote: Gray Brother

Why do we need thousands of pelots for 500 vehicles?

Sergey, here I am not a friend of the professor at all, but here he is right. In the event of a serious conflict, it’s easy to buy cars (with the Jewish lobby in the USA), but it’s more difficult to train pilots.

[Gray brother]

Quote: Ingvar 72

but it’s more difficult to prepare pilots.

There are not enough "God's Eye" helmets for everyone. The professor is delirious, there are a little more than a dozen in Israel in the 35s, his heart simply sank for the Merkava tank, which has no equivalent in the world.
He perceives everything very painfully - what if the Armata is better, what if the Su-57 turns the 35th on a jade rod in batches?
Here and overcomes here.

[Ingvar 72]

Quote: Gray Brother

There are not enough "God's Eye" helmets for everyone.

Do you think they will not be sold helmets complete with airplanes?

Quote: Gray Brother

It takes everything very painfully

Well, this does not take away from him, so to speak, national features!

[Gray brother]

Quote: Ingvar 72

Do you think they will not be sold helmets complete with airplanes?

500 planes, and thousands of pelots!

[SovAr238A]

Quote: Gray Brother

Quote: Ingvar 72

but it’s more difficult to prepare pilots.

There are not enough "God's Eye" helmets for everyone. The professor is delirious, there are a little more than a dozen in Israel in the 35s, his heart simply sank for the Merkava tank, which has no equivalent in the world.
He perceives everything very painfully - what if the Armata is better, what if the Su-57 turns the 35th on a jade rod in batches?
Here and overcomes here.

Why will there always be?
For 20 years I have only heard "it will ... suddenly ... in batches" ..

Same. and no real action.

[Gray brother]

Quote: SovAr238A

For 20 years I have only heard "it will ... suddenly ... in batches" ..

About the T-90 also once said so. And suddenly here they are - in packs, the routine of which is no longer paid attention, but times were harder, by the way.

[SovAr238A]

Quote: Gray Brother

Quote: SovAr238A

For 20 years I have only heard "it will ... suddenly ... in batches" ..

About the T-90 also once said so. And suddenly here they are - in packs, the routine of which is no longer paid attention, but times were harder, by the way.

What are you carrying?
T-90 is a Soviet tank.
Fully developed in the Soviet Union.
He came to GOSy in the Soviet Union.
He was completely ready for production as early as 1990.

And this is not a fundamentally new tank - it is still a modernization of the T-72. Its factory probable code was T-72BU (improved B) ...

[Gray brother]

Quote: SovAr238A

T-90 is a Soviet tank.

Without the Indians, it would not have existed, and there would not have been, together with the UVZ, there were only ten pieces of this Soviet tank.
It was adopted in Russia only in 2005.

[Lipchanin]

Quote: professor

You at your age are ashamed not to know this.

It's a shame not to know that the "shoals" of it are still crawling out

[Professor]

Quote: Lipchanin

Quote: professor

You at your age are ashamed not to know this.

It's a shame not to know that the "shoals" of it are still crawling out

And from whom do not "jambs" come out? Or from what?

[Lipchanin]

Quote: professor

And from whom do not "jambs" come out? Or from what?

That is why they conduct tests in combat conditions that have not been adopted for service, so that these "stocks" are as few as possible

[Professor]

Quote: Lipchanin

Quote: professor

And from whom do not "jambs" come out? Or from what?

That is why they conduct tests in combat conditions that have not been adopted for service, so that these "stocks" are as few as possible

Tests are carried out at landfills. In battle, trials are fraught with troupes.

[figwam]

Quote: professor

13 years in service

))) The first flight was made in 2000.
Due to flaws, the F-35A was adopted only in 2016, and by 2021 it should reach maximum readiness
Due to flaws, the F-35V was adopted only in 2015.
Due to flaws, the F-35S was adopted only in 2019.

[70 tons]

In service with the F-35, in fact, less than 5 years. And 13 years ago the F-35 didn’t exist at all as an airplane, the first production one took off only in 2011. Although the F-35 development program began back in 1994.

[Incvizitor]

They have it since the commanche, fu is a sequel.

[210ox]

That's it. And it’s a little perplexing that the message is from the Minister of Industry and TRADE ..

[Sky strike fighter]

Quote: 210ox

That's it. And it’s a little perplexing that the message is from the Minister of Industry and TRADE ..

Well, he is primarily responsible for the industry, which creates equipment for sale (trade), whether for the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation and not only.

these tanks were sent to Syria "in order to take into account all the nuances in combat conditions." "In Syria, as you understand, this is the kind of test," said Manturov, noting that this will help form the "final appearance" of the tank, which will be supplied to the Russian army.

T-14 "Armata" is an expensive tank. "It is expensive also because a cycle of additional tests and modernization is underway. As production and supply volumes increase, of course, the price will also decrease," Manturov said.

https://www.interfax.ru/world/704971

[Stirbjorn]

Quote: Sky Strike fighter

Well, he is primarily responsible for the industry, which creates equipment for sale (trade), whether for the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation and not only.

That is, he understands tanks too ?! A sociologist by training, he did not serve in the army

[Sky strike fighter]

Tanks should be understood by engineers and the military, and the Minister of Industry should oversee and carry out general management of industry and industrial policy in the country.

[Nikolai Grek]

Quote: Stirbjorn

That is, he understands tanks too ?! A sociologist by training, he did not serve in the army

oyyyyyy, yes laaaaaaaadnooooo ... here the pseudo-communists in all matters eksprety !!

[Ingvar 72]

Quote: Nikolai the Greek

oyyyyyy

Why this cry of Yaroslavna? On the topic have something to say? A couple of days in Syria - a break-in battle? Yes, if you even thought a little with your head, you would have come to the conclusion that this tour is nothing more than a window dress and a PR move. According to my estimates, the tank did not even come close to the zones of real military operations, because there is a risk of his defeat. But the thesis that invulnerable tanks do not exist is not new, and has been repeatedly proved. And if you think about ( ), then you can easily calculate the reputational losses of the newest tank and which is positioned as the best tank in the world when it is defeated .... no matter what.
So learn to think of Nicolas, and not just throw pluses to the sisters of the order to throw!

[Nikolaevich I]

Quote: Trevis

And why not?

Why yes" ? So that the barmaley "after each" next successful offensive "yelled about the capture of" Armata "with a demonstration of" samples "by" bearded "heroes"?

[Trevis]

Quote: Nikolaevich I

Why yes" ? So that the barmaley "after each" next successful offensive "yelled about the capture of" Armata "with a demonstration of" samples "by" bearded "heroes"?

But because everything must be done wisely. A lot of things have already passed through Syria, it’s not a sin to nightmare new bearded tanks)

[Grigory_45]

Quote: Trevis

But because everything must be done wisely.

and without sending to Syria - this is unwise, so what? Foolishly? And how did we bring this technique before when there was no war in the ATS?

[Aristarkh Lyudvigovich]

Quote: Gregory_45

and without sending to Syria - this is unwise, so what? Foolishly? And how did we bring this technique before when there was no war in the ATS?

As Minister Sergei Shoigu said at a meeting of the Defense Ministry’s collegium, “162 modern and modernized weapons were tested during the fighting in Syria and showed high efficiency.” Among these samples, he named the Su-34 bomber, the Su-30SM fighter, Mi-28 and Ka-52 helicopters, high-precision ammunition and sea-based cruise missiles. But at the same time, “shortcomings were revealed that did not appear during the field tests; until their elimination, the procurement of 10 weapons was suspended, ”the minister said.

[Grigory_45]

Quote: Aristarkh Lyudvigovich

Quote: Gregory_45

and without sending to Syria - this is unwise, so what? Foolishly? And how did we bring this technique before when there was no war in the ATS?

As Minister Sergei Shoigu said at a meeting of the Defense Ministry’s collegium, “162 modern and modernized weapons were tested during the fighting in Syria and showed high efficiency.” Among these samples, he named the Su-34 bomber, the Su-30SM fighter, Mi-28 and Ka-52 helicopters, high-precision ammunition and sea-based cruise missiles. But at the same time, “shortcomings were revealed that did not appear during the field tests; until their elimination, the procurement of 10 weapons was suspended, ”the minister said.

Now compare how much time the aircraft you named in Syria, what they did there, and how many tanks were and whether they participated in real clashes (so that something comes to light)

[Stirbjorn]

Quote: Gregory_45

and how many tanks were there and whether they participated in real clashes (so that something showed up there)

And most importantly, we hear about it (the war in Syria, I remind you) from civilian Manturov

[Local from the Volga]

you forgot to report!

[Nikolaevich I]

It is unlikely that they will dare to "subject" the secret technique to a full cycle of combat tests! Still risky! And let the "armata" ride through the Syrian desert ... arrange "climate control" ? And what ... this cannot be "arranged" where there are Russian military bases ... in Kyrgyzstan, Tajikistan ...? Now, it can already be assumed that having "learned" about the tests of the "Armata" in Syria, the "barmaley" will "get excited" and begin to fill the "Arab information field" with statements and "pictures" of the "Armata" killed or captured! Perhaps, they will not be too lazy to make a mock-up on the "base" of some old tank ... "Western" media will not miss the opportunity, against the background of Barmaley statements, to start their campaign to discretize the latest Russian weapons ...

[Piramidon]

Quote: Trevis

We are waiting for confirmation from the military, and footage from the fields in Syria!

Yes, otherwise the view in the frame in the title of the article resembles the landscape of central Russia.

[Lipchanin]

Quote: Piramidon

Yes, otherwise the view in the frame in the title of the article resembles the landscape of central Russia.

Well, where did you get the idea that the author may have a photo of the test from Syria?
Photo to the article can be any suitable for the article.
A photo, or a video in the article itself, is already a photo confirmation

[Piramidon]

Quote: Lipchanin

Well, where did you get that

Yes, no need to run into me. The man wanted to see footage from Syria, I supported him. And you pushed me a whole indictment.

[Lipchanin]

Quote: Piramidon

Yes, no need to run into me.

And where did you get the idea that this is a collision?

The man wanted to see footage from Syria, I supported him.

Does this seem like support?

otherwise the view in the frame in the title of the article resembles the landscape of central Russia.

You specifically said that this is not Syria, but Russia

And you pushed me a whole indictment.

Well, where and what have I blamed you?

[Piramidon]

Quote: Lipchanin

Does this seem like support?
otherwise the view in the frame in the title of the article resembles the landscape of central Russia.

And why was the word "yes" thrown out? And the meaning is already different. The main thing is that the person to whom I answered everything correctly understood and did not get indignant. and you got stuck in a dialogue and burst into lectures addressed to me.

[Lipchanin]

Quote: Piramidon

? And the meaning is already different.

Absolutely not changed

and you got into a dialogue and burst into moralizing toward me.

Well, if you consider moralizing an indication of your mistakes, then you can be offended and resent as much as you like.

[Piramidon]

Quote: Lipchanin

you can be offended and resent as much as you like

Here is attached.

[Lipchanin]

Quote: Piramidon

Here is attached

Piramidon (Stepan. Russia) Today, 19:47
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Quote: Lipchanin
Does this seem like support?
otherwise the view in the frame in the title of the article resembles the landscape of central Russia.

And why was the word "yes" thrown out? And the meaning is already different. The main thing is that the person to whom I answered everything correctly understood and did not get indignant. and you got stuck in a dialogue and burst into lectures addressed to me.

[Non liberoid Russian]

Syria is not only the steppe and desert .. some regions there are spilled medium elevation

[Piramidon]

Quote: Not Liberoid Russian

Syria is not only the steppe and desert .. some regions there are spilled medium elevation

Syrian folk song "Now a birch, now a mountain ash"

[Nikolai Grek]

Quote: Piramidon

Quote: Trevis

We are waiting for confirmation from the military, and footage from the fields in Syria!

Yes, otherwise the view in the frame in the title of the article resembles the landscape of central Russia.

and who stuck this picture to the article ??? you ask if there are any correspondents at all ... much less in Syria !!!

[Aristarkh Lyudvigovich]

Quote: Trevis

We are waiting for confirmation from the military, and footage from the fields in Syria!

If the minister said, then it was so.

[Trevis]

Quote: Aristarkh Ludwigovich

If the minister said, then it was so.

Good photo! Did the minister send you this?)

[Aristarkh Lyudvigovich]

Photo from here https://zen.yandex.ru/media/chervonec001/tvorchestvo-na-voine-5c0224c38fcf080452321cc5. Fake of course but beautiful
And so we saw the Uranium-9 combat robotic complex in Syria, someday we will see Armata in Syria. I read as a senior researcher of the Federal State Budgetary Institution "3 Central Research Institute" of the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation A.P. Anisimov spoke at the XX All-Russian Scientific and Practical Conference "Actual Problems of Protection and Security", which was held from 3 to 6 April 2018 in St. Petersburg at the All-Russian Scientific and Research Center of the Navy "Naval Academy named after N.G. Kuznetsov "with a presentation, the most interesting part of which was" Disadvantages identified during the combat use of the combat multifunctional robotic complex Uran-9 in the Syrian Arab Republic. " After that, in 2019: "The deficiencies identified during the operation of the Uran-9 combat robot have been completely eliminated, it is ready for use in the troops," Deputy Chief of the General Staff of the RF Armed Forces, Chairman of the Military Scientific Committee of the Armed Forces, Lieutenant General, told Interfax Igor Makushev. "

[maiman61]

Wow The photo is handsome! Shoigu protects the lives of soldiers! Better let the iron die than our boys!

[John22]

Especially handsome girl with RMB!

[Lipchanin]

Quote: Trevis

Did the minister send you this?)

Fsyu night photoshopped

[gas113]

Madly plus! Humorous order !!!

[The leader of the Redskins]

Machine gunner's test ...

[Aristarkh Lyudvigovich]

Yes, the machine gunner is pretty.

[Golovan Jack]

Quote: Aristarkh Ludwigovich

If the minister said, then it was so

Are there any Photoshop specialists by any chance?

IMHO - there are three options:

1. Galimov fake and fotoeba. "Anka-machine-gunner" hints at this very clearly. Let me remind you that there are no such in the crew of the Armata.
2. Promotion. They dragged the tank, had a photo shoot, and dragged it back.
3. Idiocy. To drag a purely secret car, which (from the point of view of the enemy) has no price, for a war - this ... is incomparable.

Everything is strictly IMHO, naturally

[Aristarkh Lyudvigovich]

Quote: Golovan Jack

Are there any Photoshop specialists by any chance? wink

Novel This is a photoshop based on a toy model of the Armata tank.

[Aleksandr1971]

I add that we are also waiting for confirmed victories and the first stars on the towers ...

[cniza]

Quote: Trevis

Tests of the T-14 Armata tank in the Syrian Arab Republic reported

And why not?
We are waiting for confirmation from the military, and footage from the fields in Syria!

Even if there is a photo, we won’t recognize them, most likely they were all in camouflage ..

[Grandfather]

something looks like a fake ... I see no reason to carry a secret tank, where they can stupidly seize, and if such conditions are created that you cannot capture, then what the hell is the "combat situation"?

[cniza]

All 50 to 50, not ready to take any side ... there is a danger of capture and drive in a real battle is also good ...

[Grandfather]

Minister of Industry and Trade Denis Manturov announced the information

you, colleagues, are not funny from such a "voice-over"? who is he to "voice" such things, before the MO? the hat is shorter ... smoked something.

[Simargl]

Quote: Dead Day

and if such conditions are created that you cannot capture, then what the hell is the "combat situation"?

Create such conditions? You can only capture a stationary tank abandoned by the crew, or by a dead crew.
Let's say the crew died, how to make the tank useless for study? SRZO or bombardment. Iron itself is not interesting to anyone: Turks can create a carcass, for example.

[Host Tavern]

That's right, otherwise everyone buried him

[Pessimist22]

Where did the information come from that the "partners" missed?

[Tusv]

Quote: Pessimist22

Where did the information come from that the "partners" missed?

Here you understand, they learned about the successful tests of Zircon from the "partners", but here ...

[KCA]

Well, they could have warned about the launch of the Zircon so that the early warning system would not confuse it with the launch of a ballistic missile, representatives of the "partners" were invited to observe the launch of the UR100 with the Avangard

[70 tons]

Sea launches are easy to spot. Plus, if the launch is not from the state water, then it is necessary to close the area for exercises officially declaring about it. At Zircon, the launch was also in Berentsevo, which is thoroughly illuminated by NATO radars. And where is the strong satellite control due to the base of the SSBN. If Zircon would be allowed in White or Kara, then at least there would be a chance to hide it.

[Cap.nemo58rus]

It would be interesting to know what he did there. It is a pity that it is unrealistic. State secret, however.

[Doccor18]

It would be interesting to know how KAZ Afghanit works out. It is very good that the T14 is run in in such hot conditions.
Encouraging news.

[Grigory_45]

Quote: Doccor18

It is very good that the T14 is run in in such hot conditions.

and in Tajikistan the climate is very different? Or is it necessary to bring to Syria?

[Lipchanin]

Quote: Gregory_45

Quote: Doccor18

It is very good that the T14 is run in in such hot conditions.

and in Tajikistan the climate is very different? Or is it necessary to bring to Syria?

And why in Tajikistan? Central Asia not only Tajikistan
Yes, and the military is better to know where to conduct tests
Or?

[Grigory_45]

Quote: Lipchanin

And why in Tajikistan?

for example

Quote: Lipchanin

Yes, and the military is better to know where to conduct tests
Or?

or.
There is expediency. The tank is secret, why the hell to drag it to hell on small cakes, spending considerable money and providing a regime when similar climatic conditions exist on the territory of Russia and neighboring states, where we have military bases? Or maybe we will conduct tests at low temperatures not in Siberia or in the North, but will take the tank to Antarctica?
There is only one motive "to Syria" - PR, and the decision was clearly made not by the military, but by the traders and politicians.
If at all all this infa is not a linden.

[Lipchanin]

Quote: Gregory_45

what the hell to drag it to hell on pies,

I repeat
The military knows better where and how to test the equipment, in contrast to the sofa "experts"

There is only one motive "to Syria" - PR, and the decision was clearly made not by the military, but by the traders and politicians.

WHAT PR ????

It is important to note that before the country's Ministry of Defense did not report T-14 tests outside of Russia.

Nobody knew about this in the West

[Grigory_45]

Quote: Lipchanin

The military knows better where and how to test the equipment, in contrast to the sofa "experts"

are these all "arguments"? It's kind of liquid)

Quote: Gregory_45

There is expediency. The tank is secret, why the hell to drag it to hell on small cakes, spending considerable money and providing a regime when similar climatic conditions exist on the territory of Russia and neighboring states, where we have military bases? Or maybe we will conduct tests at low temperatures not in Siberia or in the North, but will take the tank to Antarctica?
There is only one motive "to Syria" - PR, and the decision was clearly made not by the military, but by the traders and politicians.
If at all all this infa is not a linden.

[Lipchanin]

Quote: Gregory_45

are these all "arguments"? It's kind of liquid)

And the reasoning of the "sofa expert" is cooler than boiled eggs?

[Grigory_45]

You don't know anything about me. What kind of plan are you in "iksperD" - it's interesting to know)

[Piramidon]

Quote: Cap.Nemo58rus

It would be interesting to know what he did there.

It is unlikely that he participated in the hostilities there. Run in the conditions of the Syrian climate.

[Cap.nemo58rus]

Yes, of course. Take care, probably, as the Queen of England.

[Tusv]

Apparently, foreign partners also "missed" these tests.

Counterintelligence works perfectly well, since the "partners" yawn. Putin's "cartoons" missed, The second coming of the Su-57 was missed. Now the test of the Armata was loved

[Kronos]

Where are the deliveries of these miracle weapons to the troops? F 35, for example, went into a big series despite the cries of amateurs that this is bullshit

[awdrgy]

Well, I say, while underground warehouses are clogged instead of T10

[sedoj]

Quote: Kronos

F 35, for example, went into a big series despite the cries of amateurs that this is bullshit

Quite a controversial remark. Any so-called "bullshit" can also be produced in series. If only it brings money. China to help you.

[Nikolai Grek]

Quote: Kronos

F 35 for example in the series went big

and what from this large-scale series ?? !!! current you and the warrior are proud of this "magnificent" aircraft, which can not do anything and in which there are hundreds of flaws! you would have him with a warrior, so joyful would fly around the Israeli airfield !!!

[Kronos]

I am not proud as he will show only a real fight. As for the lack of flow, well, so they are in every new product

[Nikolai Grek]

Quote: Kronos

I am not proud as he will show only a real fight.

that is never !!! this trough is definitely not going to enter into a real battle with anyone !!!

Quote: Kronos

As for the lack of flow, well, so they are in every new product

and this is for you to the local "professor" ... he assures that this is no longer new, but on an industrial scale the most well-established and well-established !!!

[Kronos]

Correctly, the flaws were corrected and launched into the series, it seems 1000 copies. No one has as many 5 generation aircraft

[Nikolai Grek]

Quote: Kronos

Correctly, the flaws were corrected and launched into the series, it seems 1000 copies. No one has as many 5 generation aircraft

idiots !!!

[Simargl]

Quote: Kronos

F 35, for example, went into a big series despite the cries of amateurs that this is bullshit

Well, and patches to it already on bоless than the plane itself

[Tusv]

Quote: Kronos

F 35, for example, went into a big series despite the cries of amateurs that this is bullshit

Our military representative is the most capricious man on earth. And I want money, but the article is crushing. Nato has a different task. Somehow to break Our At Two into Hell (A2 / AD). Money is not measured, Link to Alaska with Greenland does not threaten. Rollback is not a crime. A negative result is written off to the same Russian system of the inaccessibility zone - A2 / AD. In general, I do not want to stamp penguins

[Sky strike fighter]

Once the "partners" announced the tests of the S-500 in Syria, but our Defense Ministry denied this information.

[Peter is not the first]

So here, the Moscow Region will refute the statement of the Minister of Commerce, and, perhaps, having thought, he will remain silent meaningfully for the sake of the marketing move of the merchants, counting on trade contracts and reducing the price of tanks from increasing the production series.

[Terenin]

Quote: Tusv

Counterintelligence works fine

And it would be generally "five with +", if Denis Manturov is also given 10 lashes in the ass, so that he does not climb with the comments "across the daddy into hell" and

took into account all the nuances of their use in combat conditions ...

simplicity - worse than theft (s)

[Mazuta]

Yes, she (Manturov), finally strategy !!!

[Terenin]

Quote: Mazuta

Yes, she (Manturov), finally strategy !!!

He would be better off raising food prices ...

[Non liberoid Russian]

Well, you see how convenient it was, I saw a word, singled it out, fanned it out ... and actually the answers are zero ... ever whining whiners running from article to article and carrying game off-topic

[Terenin]

Quote: Not Liberoid Russian

allocated, inflated ... and actually zero answers ...

Of course, thank you for the conversation, but why are you running after me again and collecting brains?

Quote: Not Liberoid Russian

well you see how convenient

it’s convenient to walk along linoleum ...

Quote: Not Liberoid Russian

saw the word

why do you write them thoughtlessly?

Quote: Not Liberoid Russian

ever whining whiners

and you want to read real bile, rudeness, pettiness, mockery and anger? Please log in. "Not a liberoid Russian" and you leave there "enlightened"

[really]

If they grow, then it’s engaged

[Lipchanin]

Quote: Terenin

if Denis Manturov is also given 10 lashes in the ass, so that he does not climb with the comments "across the daddy into hell" and

Do you think that without permission from the top he could say that?

[Terenin]

Quote: Lipchanin

Quote: Terenin

if Denis Manturov is also given 10 lashes in the ass, so that he does not climb with the comments "across the daddy into hell" and

Do you think that without permission from the top he could say that?

Well, judge for yourself.
1. The Russian Ministry of Defense has not officially reported that the Armata was tested in Syria under combat conditions;
2. Serial deliveries of the T-14 to the Armed Forces of Russia are planned to begin only in 2021;
3. Not on his table, (direction, functional ...) to assert that Armata tanks were sent to Syria in order to take into account all the nuances in combat conditions. These tests will help shape the final look of the new combat vehicle.
4. He (Maturov) blurted out this when answering a TV presenter’s question about whether the latest Russian T-14 tanks had been to Syria?
At a minimum, this information is chipboard.

[Lipchanin]

Quote: Terenin

1. The Russian Ministry of Defense has not officially reported that the Armata was tested in Syria under combat conditions;

It could also instruct him to voice. Moreover, this is not such a secret, given that the tests are completed and they are no longer in Syria

[Terenin]

Quote: Lipchanin

Quote: Terenin

1. The Russian Ministry of Defense has not officially reported that the Armata was tested in Syria under combat conditions;

It could also instruct him to voice. Moreover, this is not such a secret, given that the tests are completed and they are no longer in Syria

Perhaps, but unlikely. Or, unlikely, but now ... maybe

[Lipchanin]

Quote: Terenin

Perhaps, but unlikely.

Why is it unlikely?

[Terenin]

Quote: Lipchanin

Quote: Terenin

Perhaps, but unlikely.

Why is it unlikely?

Denis Manturov:

... Tanks were sent to this country in order to take into account all the nuances of their combat applications.

I believe that within the framework of the "Powers of the Ministry of Industry and Trade of Russia" he would hardly have answered the next logical question of corrosive journalists, what is

combat use?

... it is "... the organized use in battle (operation) of various types of troops (aviation, naval forces) both independently and in cooperation with each other in order to perform combat missions ..."

[Nikolai Grek]

Quote: Terenin

He (Maturov) blurted out this when answering a TV presenter’s question about whether the latest Russian T-14 tanks had been to Syria?
At a minimum, this information is chipboard.

just threw the info through it ... let the foreign ones now soar !!

[Local from the Volga]

you yourself are a wood chipboard! around the minister of censors from the office, like dogs uncut! he decided to blur about the secret tank .... yeah ...

[alavrin]

Syria - this is important, but even more important - finally announced the beginning of Serial supplies - 2021. I have been waiting for this for six years.

[70 tons]

as it turns out, the T-14 is being redone, like the boomerang. That’s the answer why there weren’t mass deliveries, the tank wasn’t ready simply. And people who are throwing optimistic slogans about the press just about to need to be tamed, the Moscow Oblast should understand that this is dropping the reputation.

[alavrin]

The note does not fully give Manturov's words. I looked at other sources, where his words are more complete: "He (Manturov-al) noted that there are already interest and preliminary applications for the purchase of Armata from foreign customers. At the same time, Manturov clarified that work with foreign buyers will begin with next year, after the vehicles begin to be serially supplied to the Ministry of Defense.
Those. he again indirectly, though, but confirms the delivery time to the troops. Well, the topic of delivery abroad should be considered separately - it causes an ambiguous impression. To put it mildly.

[awdrgy]

Probably the Americans tested on the "Abrams" and are silent

[Sky strike fighter]

Do you think the abrams were with the militants? Or were they tested on the T-14 Americans? Although the BOPS for the T-14 and T-90M Vaakum-1 is rumored to be breaking the latest modification of Abrams in the forehead from two kilometers.

[KCA]

Could beaten dragged from somewhere

[Peter is not the first]

As they could drag the battered to Assad, they could instantly drag them to Kubinka for testing, comparison and preparation, and not drag them to Syria, the T-14.

[Grigory_45]

Quote: KCA

Could beaten dragged from somewhere

it’s probably easier and more correct to drag a foreign tank into Russia (to the training ground) than to drag Russian tanks to Syria, no?

[KCA]

It is simpler if the task of the tests is only to fire Abrams, and even if only to fire, but in the conditions of BV, then it makes no sense to drag the hull somewhere in Alabino, and even transportation of the T-14 is already a test

[Grigory_45]

Quote: KCA

even the transportation of the t-14 is already a test

our country is huge - I don’t want to drive a tank, at least to the Caucasus, even to the Far East. At least by rail, even on airplanes, even by sea. Or in Syria, some kind of magical place, without having been in which, the technique is not considered completed? Assad sets his seal - they say, good, well done?

Quote: KCA

and, even if only to fire, but in BV conditions, then it makes no sense to drag the hull somewhere in Alabino

What is the difference between shelling a trophy in Syria and in a training ground? Yes, nothing.
All trophies were always dragged to their landfills, where they carefully studied the enemy’s equipment - both by shelling and mileage, disassembled, studied components and assemblies, ammunition, and took laboratory samples of technical fluids, armor, etc.
If the sample of Abrams is in the hands of Russian experts, then it’s more logical to do everything at home, if not, then drag the tank to study.

[72jora72]

Do you think the abrams had the militants?

At the "peak of power" The Igilovtsev had only one Abrams M1A1 tanks of about 140 units, the T-55 (these were captured from the Syrian military bases) had about 170.

[Sky strike fighter]

In any case, the outcome would not be in Abrams’s favor. His RPG-7s were burned in Iraq, and even the latest modifications of the Abrams would not help if they were there before the new BOPs (Vacuum-1 / Vacuum-2).

made BOPS meter length. And he would have dusted himself in the endless warehouses of the damped developments of the defense industry, if not for the new T-14, or rather, his next-generation cannon 2A82-1M and a cunning loader that can hold shells just a meter away.
The characteristics of the "Vacuum-1" are impressive - breaking through 900 millimeters of armor from two kilometers when hit by the normal.
“Abrams” of the latest modifications, if the Americans are not exaggerating, in the thickest place of the tower has a protection equivalent to 900–950 millimeters of homogeneous steel. An Israeli 70-ton monster boasts 900 millimeter armor. Perhaps more lurking animals in the world of tanks today are not found. And all of them, with a good shot, are hit by Vacuum-1.
True, T-14 is still entering the army in homeopathic quantities. But there are hopes for more intensive deliveries of the T-90M with a tower, in which the 2A82-1M gun and a new automatic loader also stand. This is the second tank in our army that can use superBOPS.
"Vacuum-1" is made with a tungsten core. For the development of "Vacuum-2," they say, Rosatom was involved, which involves the use of a uranium alloy. The increase in power, perhaps, will allow to penetrate more than a meter of homogeneous armor.

We also do not have enough tanks for BACS “Vacuum” that can use them: T-14 and T-90M. Even if their purchase finally goes according to schedule, in the next decade the basis of the Russian tank fist will still be T-72B3, and something better than “Lead” can hardly be invented for them. Koi also still need to be put in troops in sufficient quantities.

Lead-1 with a tungsten core pierces 700–740 millimeters of homogeneous steel. “Lead-2”, whose core is made of a tungsten-uranium alloy with the romantic name “Material B”, flashes a plate of 800-830 millimeters. This is enough to open the hull of any tank with a good shot in the forehead and confidently pierce the tower in vulnerable places.
Any Russian tank of the latest modifications can use shells of the Lead series: T-72B3, T-80BVM, T-90A, and if desired - T-14.

https://vpk-news.ru/articles/56212

[70 tons]

On the T-90M, it seems like it costs NOT 2A82.

[Grigory_45]

Quote: Sky Strike fighter

But there are hopes for more intensive deliveries of the T-90M with a tower, in which the 2A82-1M gun also stands

they left 90A2 on the T-46M, it would be worth knowing if you are reasoning

[maiman61]

What are the problems, the barmaley buy Abrams and shoot him with a T-14 at a training ground in Syria? For green loot, barmaley will sell anything!

[awdrgy]

Maybe they were maybe not with the militants

[Grigory_45]

Quote: awdrgy

Probably the Americans tested on the "Abrams" and are silent

and in Syria, American tank brigades are fighting with SAA?

[awdrgy]

A lot and do not, a couple is enough

[Grigory_45]

Quote: awdrgy

A lot and do not, a couple is enough

So will there be information confirming the presence of American (US-owned) tanks in Syria? Photo? Or will there be only blah blah blah?

[awdrgy]

How do I know??? I’m a commentator and not a scout. My business is blah blah blah. If there were photos, should I put them on to? A sort of James bond with one crinkle? Where is the logic?

[Grigory_45]

Quote: awdrgy

Probably the Americans tested on the "Abrams" and are silent

how can they be silent! Well, they’re such cowards that they constantly yell at the illiterate actions of Russian pilots, then at something else. And here - a blatant case - Russia, which is NOT at war with the United States, suddenly fired at their Abrams!

Py Sy Sy plump a lot - it is harmful, the Ministry of Health warned the same ...

[awdrgy]

Why are you so worried about those "Abrams"? Are they your relatives or what? They weren’t fired on, what difference does it make? Cowards are not cowards, the enemy must be disgusting, nasty, cunning and spiteful and also speak an incomprehensible language, because if it’s clear, then it’s already called differently (but this is a “good” joke)))

[tank64rus]

That's good. It can be seen in the leadership that the patriots remained.

[Aag]

There was information in the news, the State Duma decided on the obligation of state-owned companies to close information on procurement in the field of public defense.
Apparently, we have fewer reasons for discussion ... But the speculation will trample!

[shoroh]

schA will bomb the witness of the sect of Almaty

[Mazuta]

This is even taller than Rogozin about spaceships ...
"She's dear ..." It said ...

[sleeve]

Here it is right!

[Amateur]

voiced information about the test application in the Syrian Arab Republic of the latest Russian T-14 Armata tanks.

They were all burned by the pan-and-leg still when the horse divers were beaten off?

[Lipchanin]

Quote: Amateur

even with the repulsion of equestrian divers?

There was confirmation of such

[Dzafdet]

How good it used to be. Everyone worked quietly. And now there are so many experts divorced that just hold on ...

[Vitaly Tsymbal]

Again!!!! Commerce - was in Syria. !!! Why is Mansurov and not Shoigu hinting at the use of Armata in combat ??? Burning in the tank will be "Mabuta" boys, under the command of "Shoigu", and not white collars from promising managers of civil minister Mansurov ....

[Jager]

Comrade, calm down, drink valerian. Without a pointer from above, he would have been silent.

[Paranoid50]

Quote: Jager

Comrade, calm down, drink valerian.

Yes, comrade, apparently, already. But obviously not valerian.

[Doliva63]

I will add: without a pointer "from above" he would not have been asked about it

[Peter is not the first]

Sometimes the excessively zealous ministers like to hype, and then organizational conclusions follow. So let's look at the consequences for him.

[brat07]

Quote: Peter is not the first

Sometimes the excessively zealous ministers like to hype, and then organizational conclusions follow. So let's look at the consequences for him.

This excessively zealous minister, by the way, remained under office under Mishustin. And that says something.
And it’s too early to make organizational conclusions. IMHO.

[mortido]

When there will be a transfer to Zvezda shopping mall, I want to see how our tank easily fights off the ATGM of militants of all kinds of javelins and, in response to the movement, carries a couple of pickups with one land mine ...

[Peter is not the first]

The TV channel "Zvezda" could have come up with such an idea to shoot an advertising film on the "combat" use of the T-14 in Syria, and the Ministry of Defense could have supported the popularization.
He certainly did not participate in hostilities, since it was not for this that he was created to be used in urban development as a destroyer of houses with militants.

[Laksamana besar]

On a quiet run around the machine in Syria, well done. Although I was not surprised, almost all military equipment and weapons are tested there and not only new / howl, it is not for nothing that the designers and other representatives of various defense plants constantly go there.

[rocket757]

Very strange!!!
This tank is positioned as a kind of command, control center, for tank units ... what should he do there, drive the barmaley, substitute for ATGM ???
This makes no sense.
Although, the ways of the Lord are not confessed and we cannot know everything and always.

[Sky strike fighter]

No T-14 is an ordinary main battle tank, just a new generation, and network-centric information exchange networks are naturally mandatory there.

[rocket757]

Just one use case. It was written, so I remembered now.
Again, well, for the exchange of information, it was necessary that there was someone to exchange ... in the Syrian army this is simply NOT.
Then the question is, they wanted to know how they would quickly burn it on the battlefield, for what actions is it not intended, by definition?

[Sky strike fighter]

And why else do you need a tank? This is the main striking force on the battlefield of any army, well, of course, apart from artillery. How can the tank be not intended for the battlefield?

[rocket757]

Where a tank can be wrecked from around a corner, it can only act in conjunction with infantry.
This is ABC.
There, our trained infantry is not there with the goals to replace the Syrian army.
Just not logical.

[Sky strike fighter]

There, our trained infantry is not there with the goals to replace the Syrian army.
Just not logical.

How do you know exactly who is there and who is not there? The Syrians themselves would not have resolved the situation on earth. About Afghanistan, too, at one time they said that there was no war.

[Grigory_45]

Quote: Sky Strike fighter

The Syrians themselves would not have resolved the situation on earth.

and they raided it with the help of Russian aviation

[awdrgy]

Aviation ??? - the Germans in the war, the allies actually erased the cities with aviation, they did not settle even (they, thanks to this sorting out, one after the other divisions were transferred to the east) and then several dozen planes and the militants directly "described" and fled in horror. The infantry wins. this is an alphabet (and the Syrian infantry "sank" by a certain point) Aviation cannot occupy the territory. Therefore, there was and is support on the ground (the obvious things to prove to the opponent that the "frontal armor"))) is really not interesting)

[Grigory_45]

Quote: awdrgy

Infantry wins wars

with the support of artillery, tanks and aircraft. This is the ABC.
And if you followed the events in the SAR, you should have seen that the SAA more or less successfully acted only where there was support for Russian aviation, including by helicopters. What is under Palmyra, what is in Idlib.
But judging by your comment, you are the one

Quote: awdrgy

"frontal armor"

who either does not know about the situation in Syria, or does not understand a damn thing

[awdrgy]

ABOUT! Tanks with artillery were added (it turns out not only aviation) and the infantry appeared (stop about the infantry, I wrote) Helicopters are an effective means of support I agree, especially in the city))) Dap there were they shot down? -30 40? No? And if there were air defense means, the militants should have had such losses (something like) well, if they were really actively used and I don't even mean a self-propelled gun, One shilka is well located and not only for a helicopter - it won't seem like a little to a dryer and an instructor for beards -professional military Therefore, guardians were used very limitedly and precisely as a means of support, which you yourself wrote about (well, it does not pull at "settling")

[Grigory_45]

[quote = awdrgy] Added tanks with artillery [/ quote]
they were not added, they were - Syrian. Do you know that Assad has tanks, and MLRS, and artillery?
Air support - by means of the VKS (and not only by helicopters, it is written: quote = Grigory_45] including by helicopters [/ quote] Syrian aviation is not able to cope. It was only thanks to the Russian aviation that the SAA took Palmyra and drove the barmalei out of Idlib.

What are you trying to prove?

[awdrgy]

Well, how are we talking

[rocket757]

An empty argument. Not interested.

[Doliva63]

Quote: rocket757

Just one use case. It was written, so I remembered now.
Again, well, for the exchange of information, it was necessary that there was someone to exchange ... in the Syrian army this is simply NOT.
Then the question is, they wanted to know how they would quickly burn it on the battlefield, for what actions is it not intended, by definition?

Well, if it is positioned as MBT, then it is intended for any battlefield, except for naval battles, not?

[rocket757]

They are about the Form, they are about Yerema ... there is nothing to argue about.

[Doliva63]

Quote: rocket757

They are about the Form, they are about Yerema ... there is nothing to argue about.

And I don’t argue, so keep up the conversation

[rocket757]

Speak, argue, that's fine
We just started repeating ourselves.
Now they have opened a new topic. The same thing.
Again the argument, it was not, it is necessary, it is not necessary ..... about anything, it turns out.
I’m neither an infantry nor a tankman, but when you do your own exercises and modeling, they have a lot to tell! And the most valuable can only be found in memoirs written by war veterans! This is true, at least.

[Doliva63]

Quote: rocket757

Speak, argue, that's fine
We just started repeating ourselves.
Now they have opened a new topic. The same thing.
Again the argument, it was not, it is necessary, it is not necessary ..... about anything, it turns out.
I’m neither an infantry nor a tankman, but when you do your own exercises and modeling, they have a lot to tell! And the most valuable can only be found in memoirs written by war veterans! This is true, at least.

So I don’t argue

[toha124]

Unfortunately, we do not have enough money to use such a machine as MBT. They won't build that many. Until we get so rich (and I hope so), the T-14 itself will become obsolete. That suggests options such as "commander" (in the network-centric sense) or separate reinforcement units (such as tank regiments of breakthrough in WWII, they were also extremely small in number).

[Nikolai Grek]

Quote: rocket757

what should he do there, drive the barmalei, substitute for ATGM ???
This makes no sense.

on the Turks experienced !!!

[rocket757]

You may have pinned it, but obviously it’s not, this will not happen.
The tank is new, the Syrians will not be trusted ... the crew can only be ours.

[Nikolai Grek]

Quote: rocket757

You may have pinned it, but obviously it’s not, this will not happen.

who knows something really ... the Turks took dozens of their warriors with their feet forward from Syria ... maybe this is the merit of Armata !!!

Quote: rocket757

The tank is new, the Syrians will not be trusted ... the crew can only be ours.

I dare to assume that in reality our military on earth there have no sympathy for the Turk and their military are not fed !!!

[Givi_49]

Torgash Manturov is already going to sell "Armata" abroad. Roll your lip back and not sell to anyone. Nope, they say, nothing else. It must be disguised as a T-90, say that the Armata tank project is closed, expensive, there is no suitable element base, they say, everything is bad and unreliable. And we ourselves can calmly test it in Syria, in Shmiria, supply it to our troops, study it in the course of development and exercises, quietly, without attracting attention. Practice tactics, combat use, improve service, etc. to develop ourselves in this new technology and not to spread about it counting on someone's notorious gray-green cut paper. No money left? Print, they will go to BUSINESS.

[onix757]

ultimately contribute to the formation of the final appearance of these military vehicles.

But with the final look, as a rule, not everything is smooth. SU57 until the final appearance of 10 years as they bring. I understand that there is no limit to perfection, but still ..

[Vadim237]

The 11th car was taken as the basis for the production car.

[70 tons]

Su-57 from the moment of the first flight to the moment of sufficient readiness reached much faster than the F-22 and F-35. Although its appearance was in the crises of 2011, 2014 and 2016 and the time of the restructuring of the army.

[Lord of the Sith]

Stone in the garden to skeptics howling that "Armata is everything"))

[iouris]

No one saw him. And he was there.
The main thing is that the tank should be manufactured in accordance with international ISO standards, satisfy the requirements of Greta Tunberg regarding environmental safety, as well as the UNECE Rules.

[strelokmira]

Manturov also announced the timing of the start of serial deliveries of T-14 Armata tanks to the Armed Forces of the country. The official of the federal cabinet said that the start of serial deliveries of new generation tanks to the RF Armed Forces is scheduled for 2021.

But what about?

"Armata" will go into service by the end of 2019 year

https://topwar.ru/153921-armata-postupit-na-vooruzhenie-k-koncu-2019-goda.html

[iouris]

In 2019, there were difficulties, an adjustment was made, and 2020 and 2021 have finally been canceled.

[Lara Croft]

Apparently, foreign partners also "missed" these tests.

Well, once the Christie (BT) tank was brought to the USSR under the guise of a tractor, why the T-14 could not be brought to the SAR under the guise of a combine ...
It is strange that the Israeli Jews missed it .., the more the article says about testing the tank in combat conditions ....

[Boratsagdiev]

Here, and I wrote ... that there are samples of small-scale assembly for testing ....
and I was minus ...

[Grigory_45]

Quote: BoratSagdiev

there are samples of small-scale assembly for testing ....
and I was minus ..

these samples have been parading around for years. It would be strange if they were not)

[voyaka uh]

In Idlib, they certainly were not. Otherwise, Turkish drones would take a picture.
Tested in some peaceful place. Probably drove through the desert
over the hills. Checked the chassis. Shot in the dust.

[Lara Croft]

Quote: voyaka uh

In Idlib, they certainly were not. Otherwise, Turkish drones would take a picture.
Tested in some peaceful place. Probably drove through the desert
over the hills. Checked the chassis. Shot in the dust.

Those. Turkish drones fly along the highway? And then Manturov clearly says that the tanks were tested in a combat situation, and not in the field, about which you write here ...

[Ingvar 72]

Quote: Lara Croft

And then Manturov clearly says

Where did Manturov get such information? He a priori should not be aware of the conditions under which the tank was tested. Either PR, or says something that he was whispered to. If Shoigu voiced, then it would have sounded more believable.

[Lara Croft]

Quote: Ingvar 72

Quote: Lara Croft

And then Manturov clearly says

Where did Manturov get such information?

Do you think he is English or Japanese spien? On the "zombie box" they showed him, like a serious person ...
Also he

Since November 2012, he has also been Chairman of the Supervisory Board of Rostec State Corporation

and since May of the same year approved

Minister of Industry and Trade of the Russian Federation

maybe Chago knows ...

[Kaetani]

Absolutely sound remark

[Nikolai Grek]

Quote: voyaka uh

Otherwise, Turkish drones would take a picture.

cheating on your f35 ... the loss before the Turkish drones begin to bow !!!

[Alexey from Perm]

Start the engine and drive the tank back under the canopy, test the air conditioning is also a test. There is no evidence of participation in hostilities. And rightly so. our crew would be sitting there. The Germans also somehow experienced tigers on the Leningrad front in 1942, sadly then for the Fritz ended

[Prahlad]

I am sure he is fighting there, and not sitting at the base. And what could possibly knock him out there? Babahs simply do not have such weapons.

[Alexey from Perm]

in fact, war is an evil thing .... then peter will fall into the caterpillar, and the tank will stand up with all its might, and then even the baboons can gouge it with art.

[good]

Quote: Ingvar 72

Sergey, here I am not a friend of the professor at all, but here he is right. In the event of a serious conflict, it’s easy to buy cars (with the Jewish lobby in the USA), but it’s more difficult to train pilots.

For the entire time that there is a program, trained 1000 pilots (and not thousands) for all countries participating in the project, most of them American and not all in service. And how much can you quickly buy in the right configuration? how quickly can they be put into operation? And if you really have to fight with a serious opponent and not bullet from someone else’s territory in Syria? And you need to have time to prepare the planes for the flight, and this is also not a penny and not five minutes.
In fact, everything is not so simple.

The same story with modern tanks. They are expensive, are built on in five minutes and repairs on the knee will not work.
No one will fight with armadas. The accumulation of equipment is now even easier to demolish and any powerful landmine will turn any sophisticated tank into a tank of the mid-60s because it is able to remove all fashionable electronics from the armor.
Modern sophisticated weapons are not designed for a big war and there will be no big war. otherwise all kirdyk.

[begemot20091]

Quote: Gregory_45

If you have not seen satellite images of Hmeimim, for example, then this is your problem. Pictures with any changes at the airbase immediately fly around the world.
Do you think that it’s possible to hide several tanks that are actively participating in the database for, say, a couple of weeks from foreign intelligence? Yes you are a naive boy))
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show the pictures. It’s interesting to see what they sent to you from the CIA with a resolution of 50 cm. I would like to take a closer look.

[Zabvo]

Only those who believe that the Russian Armed Forces were not in Donbas can believe that the T-14 was in the SAR. "A stone in the garden" of veruns of any media, etc.

[Victor March 47]

Quote: Sky Strike fighter

It is logical in practice to run a tank in conditions of hostilities in order to correct all the comments and put into the series a completely ready-made car without jambs.

Nothing can do without comments. A good car, any, for any purpose, complexity and conditions of use is the fruit of compromises. Product quality is determined by many indicators, almost all of which contradict each other.

[Finn]

Yes, read the comments. I think it’s necessary for the warriors to register on the site.

[Nikolai Grek]

Quote: Finn

Yes, read the comments. I think it’s necessary for the warriors to register on the site.

Do you think this resource belongs to the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation ?? !!!

[Lara Croft]

Quote: Nikolai Grek

Quote: Finn

Yes, read the comments. I think it’s necessary for the warriors to register on the site.

Do you think this resource belongs to the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation ??

he is most likely an Israeli (possibly Japanese) spyen .... what data is he interested in from a military man during registration?
... on the other hand, what about citizens' access (especially in conditions of self-isolation) to electronic mass media with an ascribed certificate or a certificate from the military registration and enlistment office ... or, like, Baba Nyura, who did not serve in the SA, nor in the RA, nor Army of the Republic of Ingushetia will share an analysis of the global military-political situation in the world and discuss the performance characteristics of enemy or domestic equipment ....
I propose a certificate from the PND instead of the avatar to post, the moderator looked that the certificate was not expired, so the destructive dialogue on the forum is being conducted for another reason ....

[Boratsagdiev]

The trouble with the hospitals, over there a lot of regions closed up recently (or abolished departments) ...
but they will cut back. What kind of help is there.
I’ve been living for a month on the street after the dissolution of the department of especially violent dreamers.

[tech3030]

Very doubtful. Given how the Arabs leak, with the subsequent death of high-ranking military personnel, and their discipline. Although there were Su-57s at our base, there could be a total ban on shooting, they could subtly hint what would follow if something merged. Well, this is my opinion, maybe someone does not go.

[Gennady Fomkin]

Surely it was disguised as T 72 or what kind of people are working in the Syrian army

[Maks1995]

In Syria - a plus.
Further and further release is a minus.

This is what generation of Armat already, who knows ???
Was that the third year that year ???

[Mentat]

Quote: APASUS

Quote: Shurik70

And the tank is the tank. The satellite image has a rectangle. It is difficult to distinguish one model from another, especially when the gun is directly looking.

Blind or something sitting at the monitors there, they can’t tell ...................

This is an aerial shot. There are no images with satellites with this resolution. The level of modern science and technology has not yet reached this point.
Your depth of vision, by the way, when you seriously publish such messages, is amazing.

[Grigory_45]

Quote: Mentat

Quote: APASUS

Quote: Shurik70

And the tank is the tank. The satellite image has a rectangle. It is difficult to distinguish one model from another, especially when the gun is directly looking.

Blind or something sitting at the monitors there, they can’t tell ...................

This is an aerial shot. There are no images with satellites with this resolution. The level of modern science and technology has not yet reached this point.
Your depth of vision, by the way, when you seriously publish such messages, is amazing.

satellite images have sufficient resolution to distinguish one type of tank from another by characteristic features. T-55 from T-72 and Abrams and Merkava, for example.

The photo is shown to you for clarity, to compare the size of the tanks and their characteristic differences, which will be visible in the image from space (not so clear, of course, but the specialist will figure it out). And no one said that this was a satellite image, not a quadrocopter. Therefore, you can be amazed with you, how adequately do you perceive written

[Incvizitor]

In the background is t 15?

[voicem]

Grisha, he is also in Africa Grisha.

[for]

What difference was he there or not. In combat conditions, it seems to me there is no one to test it with. Like the Su57.

[Zaurbek]

How can I miss the tank?

[Grigory_45]

Quote: Zaurbek

How can I miss the tank?

you can "miss" what was not)

[Veter_73_2017]

More like a death or distraction maneuver.

[Oleg1]

Listen which Armata tank? The author of VO Skomorokhov clearly wrote that this is a fake, I trust him, so this is not!

[Jarserge]

Kakunov offended that they squealed about the death of the "Armata" project and its incapacity

[vladcub]

Quote: aver2000

That's all in a decent society called bullshit ..

Ross, generally in a decent society they call nonsense that the information on tanks is voiced by the Minister of Commerce, and not the Minister of Defense))))

You voiced my thoughts: with what fright, the Minister of Trade reports the T-14 tests ... I am waiting for confirmation from the Minister of Culture.
Ale, Mishustin, figure out who is doing what in your government?

[Earnest]

Quote: Vitaliy Tsymbal

Again!!!! Commerce - was in Syria. !!! Why is Mansurov and not Shoigu hinting at the use of Armata in combat ??? Burning in the tank will be "Mabuta" boys, under the command of "Shoigu", and not white collars from promising managers of civil minister Mansurov ....

Don't be nervous about illiteracy! The development and production of weapons is not carried out by the Ministry of Defense. And just the Ministry of Industry and, as we call it, "... and trade." In common parlance, the Ministry of Industry and Trade. http://minpromtorg.gov.ru/. Therefore, the relevant minister, read - Manturov, reports on the results of testing equipment that has not been put into service. And Shoigu will say for the military tests under his jurisdiction. As the time comes.

[Earnest]

Quote: Zaurbek

How can I miss the tank?

Read the opinion of foreigners about how the preparation and conduct of polite people missed the bloodless security of the annexation of Crimea

[tank64rus]

Well, good. Maybe the agents of the influence of the West will not be able to make another museum exhibit from it, like from the T-95.

[qpeqop]

Doctor: "... we will release it in a couple of days"
Comrade Saakhov: "There is no need to hurry. It is important to return the healthy to society ..."

[Free wind]

For such a tank you need at least 14 cameras, 4 from the front, 2 from the stern, 4 on the sides, and 4 from the top, in the tower. And you need picture synchronization. How to provide all this? We need virtual glasses. We need powerful video cameras, we need powerful video cards. Do we have all this? Hodovka does not cause any problems, forgive me for the technique. But electronics ???????

[Oleg1]

Quote: Free Wind

For such a tank you need at least 14 cameras, 4 from the front, 2 from the stern, 4 on the sides, and 4 from the top, in the tower. And you need picture synchronization. How to provide all this? We need virtual glasses. We need powerful video cameras, we need powerful video cards. Do we have all this? Hodovka does not cause any problems, forgive me for the technique. But electronics ???????

OU! YOU are mistaken, there are 10 cameras in front, and 5 on all sides! Then touch the mouse and go! You are the winner of the game! Oh, these analysts... they would sooner send you back to school...

[Evil 55]

Another medal-bearer-talker...Soon he will send the T-14 to the Moon, because he didn’t serve in the army, he saw the equipment only in pictures, for him the T-14 and the T-50 are alike...but he is consistently celebrated with populist slogans and promises...

[Oleg1]

Quote: Evil 55

Another medal-bearer-talker...Soon he will send the T-14 to the Moon, because he didn’t serve in the army, he saw the equipment only in pictures, for him the T-14 and the T-50 are alike...but he is consistently celebrated with populist slogans and promises...

Didn’t you serve in yours, Ukrainian? Damn...

[Mentat]

Quote: Gregory_45

Quote: Mentat

Quote: APASUS

Quote: Shurik70

And the tank is the tank. The satellite image has a rectangle. It is difficult to distinguish one model from another, especially when the gun is directly looking.

Blind or something sitting at the monitors there, they can’t tell ...................

This is an aerial shot. There are no images with satellites with this resolution. The level of modern science and technology has not yet reached this point.
Your depth of vision, by the way, when you seriously publish such messages, is amazing.

satellite images have sufficient resolution to distinguish one type of tank from another by characteristic features. T-55 from T-72 and Abrams and Merkava, for example.

The photo is shown to you for clarity, to compare the size of the tanks and their characteristic differences, which will be visible in the image from space (not so clear, of course, but the specialist will figure it out). And no one said that this was a satellite image, not a quadrocopter. Therefore, you can be amazed with you, how adequately do you perceive written

The quote above clearly states what the person means, there’s no need to fuss about now.
“They are sitting by the monitors, they can tell them apart” in the thread about satellite images, and below is an aerial photo. It’s not clear why you interfered in someone else’s conversation, attributing his thoughts to someone and trying to figure out what they meant. Are you military or what? Write clearly, clearly, understandably, for yourself, and not for Petya. Women of a certain type of behavior play their butts.

[weddu]

Apparently this means testing innovative components, systems, and assemblies from the Armata in combat conditions, possibly installed in other tank hull models that do not arouse interest and questions, including to form the final appearance of the T-14.