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The United States is asking how long the investigation in the September 11 case will last.

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The United States is asking how long the investigation in the September 11 case will last.

The American press published material reminding us that the investigation into the September 11 terrorist attacks in the United States lasts about 19 years. In an article by Carol Rosenberg, it was reported that during all this time, five suspects were under investigation, and their fate still remains unresolved. It is noted that their case has not been brought to court. And the suspects continue to be in Guantanamo prison.


In this regard, Carol Rosenberg raises the question: how much longer will this strange investigation into the crime case, of which 2001 people become victims in 2976, continue?

The author, writing for The New York Times, reports that last summer another judge who is busy with this case announced the "approval of a new schedule." According to this schedule, the process was supposed to begin in January-February 2021. But now, as the author of the material writes, this schedule will again have to be shifted indefinitely.

The material indicates that the coronavirus pandemic will make its adjustments to the process, as well as the very fact that the judge who approved the new schedule left his post completely.

It is worth noting that the status of the Guantanamo prison in Cuba for the United States is such that the prisoners in it are deprived of any possibility of full contact with lawyers.



In this regard, the upcoming trial itself is turning into a farce, especially considering that the “investigation” has dragged on for almost two decades.

Carol Rosenberg notes that over the years of their detention in Guantanamo, the suspects were tortured and interrogated, "using inhumane methods."
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  1. Same lech
    Same lech April 19 2020 14: 53 New
    20
    All the time I wonder how two such hefty buildings collapsed so neatly ... practically without damaging the neighboring buildings.
    After all, the planes crashed into the building at a different angle and direction ... according to all laws of gravity, the most damaged corner of the building should first collapse .... and they fell neatly in the center ... miracles and more.
    1. Zoldat_A
      Zoldat_A April 19 2020 15: 01 New
      30
      Quote: The same LYOKHA
      All the time I wonder how two such hefty buildings collapsed so neatly ... practically without damaging the neighboring buildings.

      And also the third building, in a few hours. Absolutely not affected by the "attack". It goes by itself. Because of fear. Just as neat, but without cameras.

      Kennedy, the CIA crashed, the investigation has been dragging on since the 63rd year, there are even more questions than in the 63rd. And this "consequence" will stretch for 70 years. Although, formally, the "culprit" has already been found and punished.
      My opinion is that the "culprit" was caught, their beard was shaved off, dressed in sweatpants and settled in Texas on a ranch under guard, so that he would not jerk his tongue.
      1. Reptiloid
        Reptiloid April 19 2020 15: 17 New
        +9
        Quote: Zoldat_A
        ....... Kennedy was thundered by the CIA, the investigation has been dragging on since the 63rd year, there are even more questions than in the 63rd. And this "consequence" will stretch for 70 years. Although, formally, the "culprit" has already been found and punished. My opinion is that the "culprit" was caught, the beard was shaved off, dressed in sweatpants and settled in Texas on a ranch under guard, so that he would not jerk his tongue.

        I also remembered Kennedy.
        And with lawyers difficulties. Not democratic! Not tolerant. Ah ah ah!
        1. figwam
          figwam April 19 2020 16: 37 New
          14
          As a result of the investigation, they will come out on their own.
          1. Zoldat_A
            Zoldat_A April 19 2020 17: 02 New
            +9
            Quote: figvam
            As a result of the investigation, they will come out on their own.

            This is the "art" of the American investigation, to commit the crime itself, and to declare everyone guilty except yourself.
            And it doesn't matter that it is obvious to the whole world that the "investigation" is far-fetched in such a way that these ears come off. The main thing is that the "investigators" themselves believe and are able to explain correctly to their voters.
            Although, for example, voters do not really believe about Kennedy. The "investigators" themselves have already confessed about "Maine". About the Gulf of Tonkin they are already openly saying that they somehow arranged something clumsy there ...
            Another 40 years - and about the tower, an American voter will think that, probably, somewhere they lied to him ...
          2. Reptiloid
            Reptiloid April 20 2020 07: 38 New
            -1
            Quote: figvam
            As a result of the investigation, they will come out on their own.

            Well yes! Therefore, they do not go there wassat
        2. antivirus
          antivirus April 20 2020 02: 42 New
          +1
          our media could show the Poles such examples of the speed and results of investigations, in connection with the plane crash of 2010 - they say: "totalitarianism is not cured". Who and what do the Poles say?
          1. Reptiloid
            Reptiloid April 20 2020 07: 43 New
            -1
            Ugh on them negative 77 times!
            Quote: antivirus
            our media could show the Poles such examples of the speed and results of investigations, in connection with the plane crash of 2010 - they say: "totalitarianism is not cured". Who and what do the Poles say?
      2. Nikolay Ivanov_5
        Nikolay Ivanov_5 April 19 2020 15: 18 New
        12
        The American intelligence agencies organized terrorist attacks to start a war in Afghanistan and the Middle East.
      3. Sergey39
        Sergey39 April 19 2020 16: 47 New
        +8
        The results of the investigation in both cases will never be published. There is nothing to investigate. All interested parties know everything. And no one will make public showdowns to the public. Until the situation changes.
        1. Lipchanin
          Lipchanin April 19 2020 17: 17 New
          +5
          Quote: Sergey39
          Until the situation changes

          Never mean
      4. orionvitt
        orionvitt April 20 2020 11: 08 New
        +1
        Quote: Zoldat_A
        the "investigation" will stretch for 70 years.

        And why the consequence? Nowadays, the perpetrators are not sought, but appointed. If the investigation is carried out wisely, a logical question will arise. What bombed Iraq and Afghanistan. And also Yugoslavia, Libya, ruined Syria, started a war in Ukraine and so on. All these are questions of the same order that the West does not want to answer oh. Since it smacks of war crimes. So rightly say, another hundred years will be pulled. True, there is another option. The United States and the European Union are falling apart following the example of the Soviet Union, and then the truth will no longer be hidden.
    2. NordUral
      NordUral April 19 2020 15: 15 New
      +8
      And the third - itself fell aside. And nobody crashed into him. This is even more wonderful. But in general - this is a video of controlled demolition, I was somehow interested in this topic, many videos with demolitions have seen enough. American, by the way. The specialists are excellent, so someone in the States certainly did not have problems with the demolition of the WTC.
      1. evgen1221
        evgen1221 April 19 2020 16: 51 New
        12
        And also the Tomahawk into the Pentagon flown under the cameras on the air magically turned into a huge Boeing only without engines and wings)))
        1. NordUral
          NordUral April 19 2020 16: 52 New
          +2
          I forgot about this "attack" by the Boeing, I confess.
          1. sabakina
            sabakina April 19 2020 17: 47 New
            +2
            Quote: NordUral
            I forgot about this "attack" by the Boeing, I confess.

            Eugene, do not forget anything, otherwise one day we will forget who we ourselves are ....
            1. NordUral
              NordUral April 20 2020 11: 15 New
              -1
              I agree, Vyacheslav, but thanks for the link, I didn’t look.
      2. Lipchanin
        Lipchanin April 19 2020 17: 17 New
        +6
        Quote: NordUral
        And the third - itself fell aside.

        For company lol
    3. Svarog
      Svarog April 19 2020 15: 16 New
      +7
      Quote: The same LYOKHA
      All the time I wonder how two such hefty buildings collapsed so neatly ... practically without damaging the neighboring buildings.

      For me personally .. and this is my opinion that the United States organized all this themselves .. they generally make experiments on their own population there. And I think the coronavirus is also doing their job ..
      For this reason, the investigation will go on until the end of time .. Ben Laden is already killed and he will not be able to tell that he was not involved
      1. evgen1221
        evgen1221 April 19 2020 16: 52 New
        +8
        Benya could have been hired as an artist. Mattresses have developed provocations to achieve strategic goals.
    4. Sharky
      Sharky April 19 2020 15: 16 New
      +3
      how two such hefty buildings collapsed so neatly ... practically without damaging the neighboring structures.

      I recommend watching a documentary: Fahrenheit 9/11. There they are described in sufficient detail by Michael Moore.
    5. tol100v
      tol100v April 19 2020 15: 47 New
      +5
      Quote: The same LYOKHA
      . Miracles and only.
      The MGA has more miracles than Houdini: the fake dollar, the Lunar program, and the Astronomical debt to the whole WORLD! List for a long time. But they are exceptional in everything, and in LIES so there are no equal at all!
    6. Tusv
      Tusv April 19 2020 15: 48 New
      +1
      Quote: The same Lech
      All the time I wonder how two such hefty buildings collapsed so neatly ... practically without damaging the neighboring buildings.

      It seems to explain a couple of days ago. Theoretical mechanics first year. All skyscrapers are built on the principle of the endoskeleton. Lateral vectors, practically zero, only one acts on the entire building - vertically down. The critical mass and the whole building is taking shape. And no exploits hi
      1. sabakina
        sabakina April 19 2020 17: 52 New
        +4
        Tusv, but do you think the earth is flat or round?
        1. Tusv
          Tusv April 19 2020 18: 01 New
          +1
          Quote: sabakina
          Tusv, but do you think the earth is flat or round?

          Glory. Every Soviet student knows that neither one nor the other. Flat on the poles
          1. sabakina
            sabakina April 19 2020 18: 03 New
            +2
            Vladimir, I hope you are not a Jew, giving such an answer?
            1. Tusv
              Tusv April 19 2020 18: 10 New
              -1
              And what does the absolutely correct answer not suit you? My Nationality Guard Corporal of the Paramilitary Organization Her Majesty Rus Mother
              1. sabakina
                sabakina April 19 2020 18: 17 New
                +6
                Vladimir, how do you explain this from the point of view of first-year theoretical mechanics?
                1. Tusv
                  Tusv April 19 2020 18: 24 New
                  -5
                  Exoskeleton has lateral vectors not zero. Put on top an uneven critical weight on a simple cabinet and you will see the same picture. hi
                  1. sabakina
                    sabakina April 19 2020 18: 27 New
                    +3
                    The cabinet will have an uneven scrap of the base, but not an even oblique, at an angle of 45 degrees!
                    For you, if you have not seen ...
                    1. Tusv
                      Tusv April 19 2020 18: 37 New
                      -3
                      With an uneven critical weight, the opposite wall will have a vertical vector and no significant side. Under the carrier, the vertical vector is the same, but the side becomes critical. Stupidly breaks and here you have a 45% angle. I repeat. With the endoskeleton, the lateral vectors are not significant and only vertical
                      1. Old Horseradish
                        Old Horseradish April 19 2020 18: 50 New
                        10
                        I am amazed at how many clever words you wrote. So, in your opinion, the armor design of towers weighing tens of millions of tons is stable like a pyramid of children's cubes. Bravo!
                        You have discovered new laws of physics and chemistry.
                        "lateral vectors are practically zero"
                        Correctly! He came up, kicked the armored beams, and the whole structure immediately fell apart strictly down, with the speed of free fall, instantly turning into dust.
                        You know, you are not a corporal, you are a GENIUS!
                      2. Tusv
                        Tusv April 19 2020 19: 00 New
                        -5
                        Old Horseradish

                        And is there a difference ?, what is a house of cards, what is a construction of children's blocks, what is an armored structure. Has a bunch of vectors. Their balance is the task of theoretical mechanics. And then just kick does not work. Need a critical kick. And how will the body behave? Looking where you kick and what design. Let's say the same towers. 3/5 of the height will be the same result as shown in the picture with Slava Sobakina. For the side vector will prevail over the vertical hi
                      3. Glory1974
                        Glory1974 April 20 2020 09: 41 New
                        +2
                        And then just kick does not work. Need a critical kick. And how will the body behave?

                        And how do you think up why the third building collapsed? What served as a critical kick?
                    2. Grandfather
                      Grandfather April 19 2020 19: 01 New
                      +4
                      Quote: Old Fuck
                      I am amazed at how many clever words you wrote.

                      I am also struck by this nonsense ... belay
                    3. Old Horseradish
                      Old Horseradish April 19 2020 19: 04 New
                      +2
                      This is not a corporal, this is ours local Einstein! He had just discovered new laws of physics, hiding behind primitive theoretical mechanics. In general, on our Military Review there are many such geniuses .... the farther, the more.
                    4. Tusv
                      Tusv April 19 2020 19: 11 New
                      -3
                      What laws do I open.? I say how forces act on the body in terms of theoretical mechanics. No more. And you can’t even empirically explain why the cork crashes and the bottle doesn’t break. hi
                  2. Tusv
                    Tusv April 19 2020 19: 08 New
                    -4
                    Too shy to ask. Have you studied theoretical mechanics?
                  3. Tusv
                    Tusv April 19 2020 19: 44 New
                    -1
                    Quote: Dead Day
                    I am also struck by this nonsense ...

                    What is the problem. Give your calculations. And then I heard enough that the earth is round. A circle is a plane, and a plane is an ancient representation of the shape of the earth. I repeat. It is spherical and flattened. Achinea is it or not but from it labor
            2. Tusv
              Tusv April 19 2020 18: 47 New
              -2
              You don’t believe in theoretical mechanics, but do you believe in Western films? See the Puzzle Game. Much more interesting were the programs
  • Abbot
    Abbot April 20 2020 05: 31 New
    +1
    Quote: Tusv
    All skyscrapers are built on the principle of the endoskeleton.

    Since when did the steel frame in construction become the endoskeleton? Very interesting. But that’s what it is, but vertical collapse is possible only with the simultaneous destruction of the supporting columns. According to NIST, the WTC7 building collapsed due to the bending of only one column - softening as a result of a fire. So what about the endoskeleton?
  • Finches
    Finches April 19 2020 16: 05 New
    +7
    First, open the assassination attempt on Kennedy, and there you look at your hands and reach September 11! laughing
    1. Tusv
      Tusv April 19 2020 16: 12 New
      +4
      Quote: Finches
      First, open the assassination attempt on Kennedy, and there you look at your hands and reach September 11!

      Not well. Kennedy immediately found the Russian trace. Figley dig further. And here they cannot either. So you dig, in another way - the Saudis are to blame, but they are allies no matter how. And they cannot even come up with a believable Russian trace. All one, byad chagrin
      1. Finches
        Finches April 19 2020 16: 20 New
        +8
        They need to resurrect Lee Harvey Oswald ... - like he managed to copulate with the investigator who interrogated him, she gave birth in secret to everyone and the son, who was born with a portrait of Putin in his pocket, avenged the folder ... - and the whole world didn’t come up with believes! laughing
        1. Grandfather
          Grandfather April 19 2020 16: 37 New
          +4
          The United States is asking how long the investigation in the September 11 case will last.
          scam of the century ... the beginning of the beginning of universal lawlessness.
    2. GELEZNII_KAPUT
      GELEZNII_KAPUT April 19 2020 20: 33 New
      +3
      Quote: Finches
      First, open the assassination attempt on Kennedy, and there you look at your hands and reach September 11!

      "newbie" and Boeing over Ukraine! bully
  • lucul
    lucul April 19 2020 16: 54 New
    +4
    miracles and only.

    And they don’t ask about Kennedy, or have they already waved a hand?
  • Lipchanin
    Lipchanin April 19 2020 17: 16 New
    +6
    Quote: The same LYOKHA
    All the time I wonder how two such hefty buildings collapsed so neatly ... practically without damaging the neighboring buildings.

    Moreover, a month before that they were insured for a huge amount
  • Vitaly Voloshin
    Vitaly Voloshin April 20 2020 13: 53 New
    0
    Google-Gulf Metastases
  • andrewkor
    andrewkor April 19 2020 14: 53 New
    -4
    On NTV I watched the attack on the second tower live!
    Gloating !!!
    1. Same lech
      Same lech April 19 2020 15: 00 New
      13
      watched the attack on the second tower!
      The strangest attack was on the Pentagon building ... there generally the devil knows what happened. what
      1. dzvero
        dzvero April 19 2020 15: 12 New
        +7
        there generally the devil knows what happened

        Boeing with variable wing sweep. smile
        It was no less strange with the White House ... In fact, the whole 9/11 is one sheer oddity.
      2. Grandfather
        Grandfather April 19 2020 16: 38 New
        +4
        Quote: The same Lech
        watched the attack on the second tower!
        The strangest attack was on the Pentagon building ... there generally the devil knows what happened. what

        everything is strange there.
  • iouris
    iouris April 19 2020 15: 00 New
    +4
    Trump, while still a builder of skyscrapers, promised to refute evidence that skyscrapers could collapse from the damage received. The expert opinion of the US Association of Civil Engineers is the same. But Trump suddenly became the president of the United States ...
    Friend Vladimir was one of the first to take the US shoulder, and his comrade-in-arms Dmitry later threatened to present an alternative version during the period of aggravation of contradictions on the monetary issue. And he didn’t ...
  • 501Legion
    501Legion April 19 2020 15: 00 New
    +6
    Americans cannot judge themselves
    1. iouris
      iouris April 19 2020 22: 35 New
      -2
      Of course they can. Only laziness.
  • sanik2020
    sanik2020 April 19 2020 15: 06 New
    +4
    Kennedy’s murder was blamed on Oswald, investigative experiments showed that Oswald, in principle, could not commit this crime, but he was appointed and the point. So in this case, who will be appointed and to blame. Business then, too much money and interests are mixed there.
    1. Jager
      Jager April 19 2020 15: 28 New
      +3
      Bin Laden was not tried, but appointed and removed.
  • alone
    alone April 19 2020 15: 11 New
    +3
    The consequence is such a thing !! It can be pulled, pulled !! like chewing gum ... And wait ... when they give the command to complete .. recourse
  • Jean-paul marat
    Jean-paul marat April 19 2020 15: 19 New
    -10
    Quote: The same LYOKHA
    and they fell neatly in the center ... miracles and nothing more.


    miracles are when sitting at home in the couch the most incredible conspiracies are allegedly exposed
    1. Same lech
      Same lech April 19 2020 15: 26 New
      +3
      miracles are when sitting at home in the couch the most incredible conspiracies are allegedly exposed

      Well, you can of course believe in the official versions of hehehe sitting in government chairs ... that Kennedy shot the psycho Oswald ... that several illiterate Arabs pointed the twin towers with jewelry precision ... that the Pentagon building, guarded as an impregnable military object, collapsed from the fall of a civilian plane ... smile believe in it I will not bother you in this.
      1. che_guevara
        che_guevara April 19 2020 18: 24 New
        0
        I’m interested in something else, who was at the helm ?? Someone should even direct the planes Arabs, at least someone else. From Arabs, it’s clear that there’s a tooth for America. How to motivate not an Arab.
        Another question. Even if there was an airplane hijacking, how did they get at the helm? There seems to be an armored door. If the instructions from the pilots in this situation? (can they not open the door when capturing). Who in the subject write.
        1. Snail N9
          Snail N9 April 19 2020 18: 40 New
          +6
          The most interesting thing is how several tons of gold "evaporated", which were allegedly stored in a branch of a Jewish bank in one of the collapsed buildings. As the investigation showed, the gold was taken out exactly before the disaster and the bank was closed for "technical reasons" on the day of the tragedy. In addition, several office-offices in these buildings, owned by citizens of one small, cunning state in the Middle East, also closed at the same time for "technical reasons."
        2. lisiy prapor
          lisiy prapor April 21 2020 13: 16 New
          0
          Boeing has such a "anti-terrorist" pribluda: control is intercepted from the ground and the dude at the helm can pull him as he likes and press at least all the buttons at once, he is already an extra.
          Quote: che_guevara
          I’m interested in something else, who was at the helm ?? Someone should even direct the planes Arabs, at least someone else. From Arabs, it’s clear that there’s a tooth for America. How to motivate not an Arab.
          Another question. Even if there was an airplane hijacking, how did they get at the helm? There seems to be an armored door. If the instructions from the pilots in this situation? (can they not open the door when capturing). Who in the subject write.
  • knn54
    knn54 April 19 2020 15: 20 New
    +5
    Scientists at the University of Fairbanks (Alaska) have completed a study of the causes of the catastrophic fall on September 11, 2001, building No. 7 of the World Trade Center. Computer simulation of the disaster process, which lasted FOUR (immediately after Trump's inauguration) years, refutes the official version that the building collapsed due to a fire. The head of the computer modeling work, Professor Leroy Hals, said: "Our research has established that the fire in Building No. 7 could not lead to the destruction of the structure."
    Now the entire US construction community, the media, and the government must take note of these results and start a new full-scale investigation. ” According to R. Gage (president of the non-profit organization “Architects and Engineers for the Truth about 9/11”), the unconditional mistakes of the previous investigation will not allow us to avoid reviewing the materials and conclusions about the reasons for the destruction of the building.
    Blaze no less than from the coronavirus.
    1. Jager
      Jager April 19 2020 15: 30 New
      +2
      There are no "mistakes" in such investigations.
    2. your1970
      your1970 April 19 2020 23: 12 New
      0
      Quote: knn54
      they will not allow avoiding the revision of materials and conclusions about the causes of the destruction of the building.

      They will have to prisoners either release from Guantanamo or that ....
      And if you let go, then they will always be an eyesore in the US ..
      They served 19 years without trial ...
  • Mouse
    Mouse April 19 2020 15: 29 New
    +5
    Rosenberg raises the question: how long will this strange investigation continue

    Until the end of the world ... but ... the grace of fire is gone! The apocalypse is once again postponed .... so at this stage, never !!!!
    1. tol100v
      tol100v April 19 2020 15: 57 New
      +1
      Quote: Mouse
      The apocalypse is once again postponed ...

      But how much?
  • NF68
    NF68 April 19 2020 15: 42 New
    +1
    Is this investigation being conducted at all or is it just pretending that an investigation is underway?
  • Operator
    Operator April 19 2020 15: 45 New
    0
    The attacks of September 11, 2001 in the United States were carried out by the Saudis under the organization of the Israeli Mossad. The goal is to draw America into the war against the adversaries of Israel and Saudi Arabia among the Arab countries.

    The United States has been postponing the trial for 19 years so as not to disrupt relations with its Middle Eastern allies.
    1. iouris
      iouris April 19 2020 19: 51 New
      +1
      Quote: Operator
      The attacks on September 11, 2001 in the United States were carried out by the Saudis under the organization of the Israeli Mossad.

      We did it ourselves. They needed it for the adoption of the "Patriotic Act", i.e. consent of all Americans to total surveillance. And the old skyscrapers still had to be demolished: asbestos was used during the construction, it is difficult to maintain modern communications. They acted very rationally.
      By the way, at this time, large-scale "air defense and missile defense exercises" were taking place in the United States, and Vice President Dick Cheney was in the nuclear war control center. It looks like Bush was not told anything. He was shocked. But it normal. The President does not have to know everything - only in the part concerning.
      1. Operator
        Operator April 20 2020 02: 31 New
        0
        The Israelis coordinated their activities with the Jewish diaspora in the United States, but the majority of the US leadership was in the dark, since the organizers of the terrorist attack were counting on the natural reaction of the Americans.
    2. Glory1974
      Glory1974 April 20 2020 09: 45 New
      0
      The goal is to draw America into the war against the adversaries of Israel and Saudi Arabia among the Arab countries.

      Since when has Afghanistan become an adversary of Israel? What does it mean that you can’t cope without it?
      1. Operator
        Operator April 20 2020 09: 56 New
        +1
        Afghanistan is the base of the Taliban - the enemy of Israel.
        But the matter was not so much in it as in Iraq, Iran and Syria - the first state was occupied by the United States in 2003, the second was placed under sanctions in 2006 with the possibility of moving to the military stage (as with Iraq), the third was subjected to American-Israeli aggression Saudi ISIS in 2013.
  • Mavrikiy
    Mavrikiy April 19 2020 15: 48 New
    +6
    The United States is asking how long the investigation in the September 11 case will last.
    Eternity. The US will never admit that they themselves blew up the shopping center. request
  • Arthur 85
    Arthur 85 April 19 2020 15: 49 New
    0
    And what about the cruiser Maine? Have you figured it out yet? And Pearl Harbor? And yes, with war crimes during the American Civil War?
  • svp67
    svp67 April 19 2020 15: 50 New
    +6
    The United States is asking how long the investigation in the September 11 case will last.
    They have not yet found evidence of involvement in the terrorist attack of the DPRK, Russia and China ... so that for a long time to come
    1. Mouse
      Mouse April 19 2020 16: 02 New
      +6
      They have not yet found evidence of involvement in the terrorist attack of the DPRK, Russia and China ... so that for a long time to come

      Do not tell my slippers .... they don’t need proof ... they’re just rotten threads, they don’t sew ... yes
      1. svp67
        svp67 April 19 2020 16: 04 New
        +4
        Quote: Mouse
        Do not tell my slippers .... they don’t need proof ... they’re just rotten threads, they don’t sew ...

        And they already do not need "strings", they use "scotch". Iran has already been "glued" to this case
        1. Mouse
          Mouse April 19 2020 17: 34 New
          +3
          Well yes....
          Where the tape does not hold, there and welding will not help .... wink
    2. sabakina
      sabakina April 19 2020 18: 24 New
      -1
      Sergey, so, was Saddam innocent?
  • Old Horseradish
    Old Horseradish April 19 2020 16: 12 New
    +5
    So, here we have a military site. Entire divisions of miners, sappers, bombers, just special forces. A separate division of ensigns and even a whole company of generals. Well, answer me, military specialists, where did tens of thousands of tons of armored steel from the frames of the shopping center go? (how many can be minted T-34 tanks? A thousand? Two? Three?) And all this for a few seconds turns into dust and blows off into the ocean, as well as the police, New Yorkers and firefighters.
    Question: what could happen to make all this armor steel dust?
    A bit of history. Here is a photo of the twin towers that turned to dust after the September 11th attack.


    These steel columns were incredibly thick-walled — each wall was 2,5 inches (6,35 cm) thick, so the total thickness of each of the columns was 5 inches (12,7 cm). To imagine how much this is, here is a good example for comparison: the frontal armor of the best of the tanks of the Second World War - the T-34 - was only 1,8 inches (4,5 cm) and it was single-walled.

    So, we have a military site. Question: if we fill all these columns with explosives, all 130 floors and tear, what will happen? What happened to the T-34 tank, which exploded ammunition? Correctly! The tower flew off, and pieces of armor, the skeleton of the tank, as a rule, remained.
    And then everything turned into microscopic dust.
    Shopping centers were made of armored steel, and not of concrete, as they tried to push us.
    1. Old Horseradish
      Old Horseradish April 19 2020 16: 18 New
      +6
      This is an armored steel frame. Not concrete.

      Yes, at least 100 regiments of aluminum aircraft will not do anything to this frame. From the word at all. Aluminum and armor are slightly different things, if you understand me.
      1. Andrey VOV
        Andrey VOV April 19 2020 16: 50 New
        +2
        There, not all metal turned into dust, there was an entertaining story, garbage from the towers had to be taken to certain places, metal to one, all the other to another, and so the company, headed by a native of the former USSR, was Armenian, and almost half did not reach, the owner became rich, and the company rested in the Bose))) so here is the Russian trace)))
      2. Mwg
        Mwg April 19 2020 18: 34 New
        +1
        The thickness of the shelf of the I-beams from which the frame of the twin towers was erected is 16 cm of high alloy steel. The frame was an internal trunk of a square section of vertically arranged I-beams and an external frame around the perimeter of skyscrapers of the same material
      3. Old Horseradish
        Old Horseradish April 19 2020 22: 25 New
        -2
        Well, that was what was required to prove. They called everything.
        "A Museum Opened at Ground Zero in Commemoration of the 11/XNUMX Attacks"

        https://www.naumburger-tageblatt.de/nachrichten/panorama/zur-erinnerung-an-die-9-11-anschlaege-museum-am-ground-zero-eroeffnet-848926
        Ground zero epicenter - the projection onto the earth or water surface of the center point of a nuclear explosion. This is a point on the surface under which an underground or underwater nuclear explosion occurred.
    2. Kelwin
      Kelwin April 20 2020 01: 55 New
      +1
      Question: if we fill all these columns with explosives, all 130 floors and tear, what will happen?

      Get a lot of fragments ...
      There is an assumption that a termite was used, or rather its army version, which is termite. And everything seems to be converging, including dust analysis ... but HOW to place such a quantity technically, and even imperceptibly ... After all, it needs to be very much, it’s one thing to cut the beam, even at several points, it’s another thing to evaporate the whole mass of metal beams ... this is an incomprehensible place in the hypothesis ...
  • anjey
    anjey April 19 2020 16: 15 New
    +2
    In this regard, the upcoming trial itself is turning into a farce, especially considering that the “investigation” has dragged on for almost two decades.
    Right, whom to judge? His dark defendants from World Adventures? So is the spread of coronavirus not from this provocative viper of the dark geopolitical and criminal operations? ....
  • Pvi1206
    Pvi1206 April 19 2020 16: 17 New
    +3
    The explosion of buildings is aimed at bringing the country's population out of balance. After that, the authorities can easily make any decision ... There were explosions in Russia during the transition to capitalism ... and then unpopular decisions were made ..
  • Old Horseradish
    Old Horseradish April 19 2020 16: 43 New
    +1
    I read the comments. One has already said: "The critical mass and the whole building is taking shape. And no exploits of demolitions."
    Ingenious! Draws to the Nobel Prize!
    The Americans themselves recognized that it was impossible to demolish these buildings in an industrial way.
    But we all forgot that in the 50s and 70s there was a lot of work on nuclear demolition (using underground nuclear explosions)

    These posters were: an underwater nuclear explosion, a nuclear explosion in space, oh, and here is our skyscraper with an underground nuclear explosion.
    Well, probably just a coincidence.
    1. Mwg
      Mwg April 19 2020 18: 28 New
      0
      The bull's eye! And even the project for the demolition of these towers using a nuclear mine was approved at one time along with the project of the towers themselves.
      1. Old Horseradish
        Old Horseradish April 19 2020 18: 34 New
        -1
        Absolutely right! Under New York law, before you build a building, you must provide a way to demolish it. This method by laying underground nuclear charges of limited power was and was provided. No one, of course, was going to blow it up. It was supposedly a simple formality. But times are changing, hard times have come in America and an idea came to some geniuses. So they embodied it. By the way, the Soviet Union was well aware of these nuclear charges. The USA informed the USSR, the USSR informed the USA.
        In the USSR, many underground explosions were practiced to search for minerals, for gas storages, for underground storages.
        It was a common practice.
        By the way, in Russia there is a big surge in cancer due to these underground nuclear explosions.
        Yes, by the way, now the same surge in cancer in New York. More than 70 thousand cancer diseases among the liquidators of the terrorist attack and residents of the city.
        1. Mwg
          Mwg April 19 2020 18: 42 New
          0
          And there is one more sign, though indirect. When the towers fell, a correspondent appeared on the air against them and shouted "point zero, point zero" several times. At the time the towers collapsed, the term "point zero" meant a point above and / or below a nuclear explosion. After a while, all encyclopedias in all US libraries were replaced, and the term "point zero" in them became a different meaning
          1. Old Horseradish
            Old Horseradish April 19 2020 19: 10 New
            0
            It's like that. They also had the mayor of New York blabber when he congratulated firefighters who had extinguished or cooled down the platform where the towers had been located for several weeks, he said that they were heroes and stood on top of a nuclear boiler, where the temperature exceeded 1000 degrees.
            In general, the opinion of our official experts is astounding. Except for one KGB officer, no one is telling the truth. Which once again confirms that we are a subcolony of the United States.
    2. your1970
      your1970 April 19 2020 23: 20 New
      +2
      Are you serious? We blow up this skyscraper - and the neighboring buildings are still standing (including low-rise buildings - obviously less stable), yes ???
      fool fool
      1. Mwg
        Mwg April 20 2020 03: 31 New
        0
        directional explosion
  • boris epstein
    boris epstein April 19 2020 16: 59 New
    -1
    Will never end. The US needed a reason to get into Iraq. USA, Germany never stopped in front of lies and victims. They drowned in the port of Havana their own.
  • Jean-paul marat
    Jean-paul marat April 19 2020 18: 00 New
    -6
    Quote: The same Lech
    miracles are when sitting at home in the couch the most incredible conspiracies are allegedly exposed

    Well, you can of course believe in the official versions of hehehe sitting in government chairs ... that Kennedy shot the psycho Oswald ... that several illiterate Arabs pointed the twin towers with jewelry precision ... that the Pentagon building, guarded as an impregnable military object, collapsed from the fall of a civilian plane ... smile believe in it I will not bother you in this.


    Just do not believe and think. And to all fans of conspiracy theories that someone allegedly blew up skyscrapers, one should think about at least 3 questions:
    1. How many people must be involved in order to mine as many as 3 huge buildings, and what is the likelihood that none of them will spill out to anyone?
    2. What is the probability that none of the thousands of people who work in these buildings will notice the mining process?
    3. And most importantly, what the hell do you even blow up the building’s children?

    Answering at least one official answer to these questions that the towers were piled up due to a jet fuel fire and a plane strike, it becomes 1000 times more likely than any torii of conspiracy of couch experts and all kinds of crooks.
    1. Old Horseradish
      Old Horseradish April 19 2020 18: 25 New
      0
      Quote: Jean-Paul Marat
      How many people must be involved in order to mine as many as 3 huge buildings

      If you roll nuclear charges 70-80 meters under these buildings, then 10-15 people. The rest can be hung up with noodles, which is an additional metro line or underground warehouse.
      Quote: Jean-Paul Marat
      And most importantly, what the hell do they blow the buildings themselves?

      Congratulations to you Martian! In fact, the USA after these explosions rolled the Middle East to dust. The US military-industrial complex and special services have reached a trillions of dollars. And not one poop said a word against them.
      PS In general, the impression is that people write with the thinking of a kindergartener in an older group.
    2. your1970
      your1970 April 19 2020 23: 23 New
      0
      Quote: Jean-Paul Marat
      Answering at least one official answer to these questions that the towers were piled up due to a jet fuel fire and a plane strike, it becomes 1000 times more likely than any torii of conspiracy of couch experts and all kinds of crooks.

      And why are they 19 (!!!!) years in no way can be determined ???
  • Mwg
    Mwg April 19 2020 18: 26 New
    +1
    That September 11, that the Kennedy assassination - no one will ever tell the truth, for simple recipes for the policies of US fathers are their corporate recipe.
    1. boris epstein
      boris epstein April 20 2020 10: 59 New
      +1
      When the Dallas attorney Garrison said that Oswald could NOT kill Kennedy (there were 3 shots - Jacqueline Kennedy and the mayor of Dallas were wounded, and Oswald's rifle was single-shot) that the tracks of the bullets hit were not from above, but from the front along the cortege of A piece of the skull was torn out of the bullet), for a start, threats to the family began, then the family was evicted allegedly for debts, then he was dismissed from service. There is an investigation by Valentin Petrovich Zorin, a Soviet correspondent in the United States. He told this in the "International Panorama".
  • Jean-paul marat
    Jean-paul marat April 19 2020 18: 33 New
    -5
    Quote: Old Fuck
    If you roll nuclear charges 70-80 meters under these buildings, then 10-15 people. You can hang noodles for the rest, which is an additional metro line or underground warehouse


    Nifiga himself, it turns out in New York someone arranged an underground nuclear explosion. I haven’t read such nonsense yet, I’m pennant to you.

    Quote: Old Fuck
    In fact, the United States rolled the Middle East into dust after these explosions.


    That is, for the occasion of the three planes in the Twin Towers and the Pentagon with hundreds of victims, there was a need for a specific overkill - a nuclear explosion in a huge city that is so secret that only couch experts in Russia know about it?
    1. Old Horseradish
      Old Horseradish April 19 2020 18: 38 New
      0
      Marat chase man, do you understand the difference between an underground and a ground nuclear explosion? With an underground nuclear explosion, the emission of radiation is minimal.
      By the way, in New York there are now more than 70 thousand cancer patients among those who took part in the elimination of the terrorist attack and simply were nearby.
    2. Mwg
      Mwg April 20 2020 11: 52 New
      +2
      Read more and there will be no amazement
  • Old Horseradish
    Old Horseradish April 19 2020 18: 39 New
    +2
    But this is for dessert. So to speak, Post Scriptum. So many years have passed, but they are the results. All this is freely available.
    “I wanted to go on a trip to America, including visiting New York. But it so happened that one friend advised not to do this. I asked: why?

    He says: But read it.

    And he threw me a link to an American news site. If anyone is interested or who thinks that I came up with, then I can throw this link. And there they write that in New York, 70 thousand city residents filed for compensation as victims of the 9/11 attacks, as they revealed various types of cancer that arise when exposed to ionizing radiation.

    70000 cancer victims are more than the combined survivors of the atomic bombings of Hiroshima and Nagasaki. More than 90% of victims say that they were within one mile of the World Trade Center at the time of the events of September 11, 2001 in an open area.

    I will find out more even further.

    Also, a New York newspaper reports (also a real link to an article) that a radioactive dump was found 15 km from New York, where debris from collapsed skyscrapers was dumped.

    The fact also surfaced that nearly three hundred police officers who worked at the scene of the 9/11 attacks in New York fell ill with cancer after the tragedy. A terrible diagnosis was made to 297 law enforcement officers, whose average age was only 44 years. 56 police officers died of the tumor. "
    https://dfedbees.livejournal.com/533194.html
  • Jean-paul marat
    Jean-paul marat April 19 2020 18: 40 New
    -4
    Quote: Old Horseradish
    Marat chase man, do you understand the difference between an underground and a ground nuclear explosion? With an underground nuclear explosion, the emission of radiation is minimal.
    By the way, in New York there are now more than 70 thousand cancer patients among those who took part in the elimination of the terrorist attack and simply were nearby.


    Has a minimal emission of radiation been noticed? From where does it even come to you, right from space?
    1. Old Horseradish
      Old Horseradish April 19 2020 18: 55 New
      0
      Yes, especially for you, with Geiger counters at the scene of the attack,
      where now they have now this:

      not allowed.
      I wonder why.
  • Jean-paul marat
    Jean-paul marat April 19 2020 18: 45 New
    -4
    Quote: Old Fuck
    I wanted to go on a trip to America, including visiting New York. But it so happened that one friend advised against this. I asked: why


    Ah, one grandmother said. Well, direct reliable information, consider the fact that a little bit of a nuclear explosion has been proved. laughing
  • Jean-paul marat
    Jean-paul marat April 19 2020 19: 20 New
    -2
    Quote: Old Horseradish
    Yes, especially for you, with Geiger counters at the scene of the attack,
    where now they have now this:

    not allowed.
    I wonder why.



    Is there a cordon, people checking for a Geiger counter? Is the police involved in this incredible plot too? So here you have a conspiracy on a conspiracy and already conspires to conspire.
  • Evgeny Goncharov (smoogg)
    Evgeny Goncharov (smoogg) April 19 2020 20: 19 New
    +2
    Quote: NordUral
    I was somehow interested in this topic a lot of videos with demolitions seen enough

    The level of expertise at VO has grown incredibly, you can even praise.
  • APASUS
    APASUS April 19 2020 20: 49 New
    +1
    For 20 years of imprisonment and torture, they now admit anyone, even say that they were personally instructed by Bashar Assad. The main goal was to tighten and complicate the investigation as much as possible, they achieved this!
  • DVR
    DVR April 19 2020 22: 43 New
    +3
    [quote = Tusv] Like a couple of days ago I explained. Theoretical mechanics first year. All skyscrapers are built on the principle of the endoskeleton. Lateral vectors, practically zero, only one acts on the entire building - vertically down. The critical mass and the whole building is taking shape. And no exploits feats [/ quote
    The above has nothing to do with the first-year "termekh".
    1. Golovan Jack
      Golovan Jack April 20 2020 00: 00 New
      0
      Quote: DVR
      Like a couple of days ago explained

      Maybe. Look at your profile, you will see - "The comment has been deleted."

      It is convenient to refer to what cannot be verified.

      This:


      I saw it myself. Please tell us again about

      Quote: DVR
      Critical mass and the whole building is taking shape

      I'd love to hear.

      PS: they read me theormech, albeit a long time ago, so you can not be shy with terminology. Thank.
      1. DVR
        DVR April 20 2020 01: 00 New
        +1
        Above Tusv (Vladimir) wrote: "Like I explained a couple of days ago. Theoretical mechanics first year. All skyscrapers are built on the principle of an endoskeleton. Lateral vectors, practically zero, only one acts on the entire building - vertically downward. Critical mass and the whole building is added up. And no exploits of demolitions."
        I commented: "What was said has nothing to do with the first-year term."
        I don’t understand what I have to explain to you.
        1. Golovan Jack
          Golovan Jack April 20 2020 01: 16 New
          +1
          Quote: DVR
          Above Tusv (Vladimir) wrote

          And so it was a quote ... sorry, I went to look for a source ...
  • Jean-paul marat
    Jean-paul marat April 19 2020 23: 47 New
    -6
    Quote: your1970
    Quote: Jean-Paul Marat
    Answering at least one official answer to these questions that the towers were piled up due to a jet fuel fire and a plane strike, it becomes 1000 times more likely than any torii of conspiracy of couch experts and all kinds of crooks.

    And why are they 19 (!!!!) years in no way can be determined ???


    As far as I know, the American side has long ago revealed the reasons for the collapse of the towers and how it happened.
  • Romanenko
    Romanenko April 20 2020 09: 21 New
    +4
    Finishing the investigation and making a court decision is not in the interests of the United States, as long as there is uncertainty in this matter, they allow themselves, under the auspices of the fight against terrorism, to fight and steal anywhere in the world, hiding behind the secrecy of the data source and, if necessary, nodding aside Guantanamo.
    On September 11, 2001, the United States untied its hands by blowing up two skyscrapers, and any clarity in this investigation is not in their interests, especially for certain circles there is no ambiguity about what happened there.
  • Jean-paul marat
    Jean-paul marat April 20 2020 11: 05 New
    -4
    Quote: Romanenko
    On September 11, 2001, the United States untied its hands by blowing up two skyscrapers, and any clarity in this investigation is not in their interests, especially for certain circles there is no ambiguity about what happened there.


    Are you generally aware that the investigation is about the involvement of specific individuals in the crime and not about what exactly happened?
  • Jean-paul marat
    Jean-paul marat April 20 2020 11: 57 New
    -3
    Quote: MVG
    Read more and there will be no amazement


    What advise you to read, so that I also see nonsense about the atomic explosion near New York? I think there is no need to read, but something needs to be consumed.
  • Al_lexx
    Al_lexx April 20 2020 13: 46 New
    +2
    There is confirmed evidence that the top management was recalled at the time of X.
    They killed low-budget "sheep".
    To the heap, demolished nearby buildings.

    Saw it all in real time. Broadcast all the media. Which in itself is already strange.
  • 7 poplar
    7 poplar April 21 2020 12: 37 New
    0
    but how can they blame themselves ??? so we are waiting another 300 years.