Rogozin announced the readiness of Roskosmos to supply rocket engines to the United States

Roscosmos State Corporation is ready to continue supplying the Russian RD-180 space engines to the USA, as well as to continue cooperation with the United Launch Alliance (ULA). This was stated by Dmitry Rogozin.

The head of Roscosmos said that the state corporation was pleased with the cooperation with ULA, whose Atlas rockets use Russian RD-180 engines, and suggested that the head of the American company visit Moscow to continue negotiations on further deliveries of Russian engines to the United States, as the current contract ends at the end of 2020.

Russian RD-180 engines used on Atlas family missiles are produced by NPO Energomash, part of Roscosmos, in addition, R-181 engines supplied by another American company, Orbital ATK, are also produced here. They are used on Antares rockets, with the help of which cargo ships Cygnus are sent to the ISS.

Earlier, the president of the United Company United Launch Alliance, Tori Bruno, called the Russian RD-180 engine, used on the Atlas launch vehicle, a technological miracle.

RD-180 is a technological miracle, ideal for Atlas flights

- He said, adding that at the end of the 90s of the last century, the US government asked the company to buy RD-180 engines for Atlas missiles so that Russian technologies would not get into North Korea and Iran.

To date, 116 engines have been shipped to the United States, 89 Atlas missile flights have been completed.

Comments

[avia12005]

You are simply amazed, is it possible that in this world loot wins everything ??? The United States appoints the Russian Federation an enemy and stifles sanctions, and we are its engines. There are no words.

[Doccor18]

Yes, everything is logical, where is the bank account, there is their homeland.
Respect and fear the strong, use the rest as intended ...

[Svarog]

Rogozin announced the readiness of Roskosmos to supply rocket engines to the United States

How quickly everyone forgot about trampolines ..

[Tiksi-3]

Rogozin said - that the engines are trampolines ..... the talking head should leave the horizons of Russia!

[Svarog]

Quote: Tiksi-3

Rogozin said - that the engines are trampolines ..... the talking head should leave the horizons of Russia!

Yes, there are many talking heads that are clearly out of place and carry a blizzard ..

[Thrall]

If Rogozin is an "effective manager", then who was Beria?

[Svarog]

Quote: Thrall

If Rogozin is an "effective manager", then who was Beria?

Beria was an effective statesman.

[Pessimist22]

Beria is an enemy of the people and an English spy.

[Thrall]

Quote: Pessimist22

Beria is an enemy of the people and an English spy.

And the atomic project of the USSR was supervised by a party-goer with a straw mustache in red uggs and a watch from his wife?)

[Svarog]

Quote: Thrall

Quote: Pessimist22

Beria is an enemy of the people and an English spy.

And the atomic project of the USSR was supervised by a party-goer with a straw mustache in red uggs and a watch from his wife?)

Beria not only supervised the atomic project .. Although this is one of his most important achievements .. Everything that Beria undertook was completed. And he took up both agriculture and industry and technology.

[Snail N9]

Well, let's be honest — without denying Beria’s organizational skills, I must admit that all his successes were largely based on the developed, effective and repressive apparatus behind him. It is developed and effective — for example, the modern repressive apparatus is superior to Berievsky numerically, but it does not work effectively, is targeted in the interests of the people and the state as a whole, but mainly for the purpose of personal reproduction and enrichment.

[avia12005]

Rumors of a repressive apparatus are greatly exaggerated. Belief in these rumors is caused by a chronic virus spread by Solzhenitsyn, etc., paid by you know who.

[Mihail2019]

It is called "SolzheVID", and there you have time to substitute only the numbers of the year. The surprisingly wide range of age is striking.

[ApJlekuHo]

My grandfather spent 15 years in prison for "spikelets", so I can tell him that all these 15 years of the camps are just described in books, but he read it? "Russian Space Troops" are where the rumors exaggerated to the point of disgrace, and those who lived at that time have not all died out. And it's not for you to argue with them.

[avia12005]

Your grandfather is not the whole nation in the 190 million population. So tell him, although humanly he is sorry. But those who tapped him, no.

[Svarog]

Quote: Snail N9

Well, let's be honest — without denying Beria’s organizational skills, I must admit that all his successes were largely based on the developed, effective and repressive apparatus behind him.

If you consider the "repressive apparatus" to be the responsibility of officials for slovenliness ... then the repressive apparatus worked here and now it would not interfere.
In general, in difficult times, complex decisions are required. At that time, "responsibility" was not an empty word, and without it, there would be no victory in the Second World War, there would be no development of medicine, science, and the agricultural industry. And if you look at how the population was growing at that time, then the "repressive apparatus" clearly justified itself.

[Snail N9]

If you consider the "repressive apparatus" to be the responsibility of officials for slovenliness ... then yes, the repressive apparatus worked here

That is exactly what I had in mind. Fear for oneself and for one's families gave rise to responsibility. True, in the USA the system acted no less efficiently based only on the reward system. But the USSR and the USA were in completely different conditions — the USA had incomparably more resources and accumulated wealth, were not isolated and were not destroyed by the war, and were not exposed to the constant threat of destruction, as was the case with the USSR ..

[Svarog]

Quote: Snail N9

. True in the United States, the system acted no less efficiently based solely on the reward system.

The USA just acted extremely inefficiently. This is evidenced by the terrible crisis of 1929-39. And it was with the advent of Hitler that the United States began to recover ... then they only consolidated their position by dollar dependence, essentially playing on the general collapse after the war. And the reason for this is not at all a reward system, but the geographical location and the wisdom of Roosevelt. Moreover, the USA was expecting the crisis of the same scale already in the 90s .. but again, by a strange coincidence .. the Soviet empire collapsed .. Now a new round and coronavirus. Summarizing, we can say that a capitalist model that is focused on consumption is always doomed to cyclical large-scale crises, since the market is not rubber .. and consumption is limited and not infinite ..

[paul3390]

True, in the USA the system acted no less efficiently based only on the reward system.

Well, yes - I didn’t manage or didn’t like it - I’m out of work without a gate, goodbye to a house, a car, insurance, etc. .. And the truth is solid gingerbread ..

[amr]

Well, let's be honest - without denying Beria’s organizational skills, I must admit that all his successes were largely based on the behind him, developed and effective repressive apparatus

Let's be honest to the end, the apparatus is repressive in North Korea and China no less effective .... something I did not see Beria there

[Snail N9]

Let's be honest to the end, the apparatus is repressive in North Korea and China no less effective .... something I did not see Beria there

And you will not see Either about China (based on your ignorance of its achievements), and even more about DPRK (a completely closed country, which is completely isolated, but nevertheless has created powerful missile forces and a hydrogen bomb) you don’t know anything at all.

[amr]

maybe I don’t know))) but the Cold War was fought with the USSR and not with China and the DPRK, so I dare say that the USSR with Beria has achieved more ....
... the fact that modern capitalists set up the production of cowards and iPhones in China does not mean that they have all the buzzing, just probably the opposite - it means that they lack their own Beria))

[Mihail2019]

To be completely honest, it is you who are very happy with the collapse of the USSR. And it is you who are now marking time with "dirty paws" in the memory of my grandfathers.
To be honest, as you suggest !!!
Let me again "ban" put in the administration of the site, but it is!

[BecmepH]

Quote: Pessimist22

Beria is an enemy of the people and an English spy.

Read more, maybe something from the truth comes across. Remove the blinkers and self-study in self-isolation.

[Prisoner]

He was a truly effective, efficient manager.

[Rate]

Quote: Svarog

Rogozin announced the readiness of Roskosmos to supply rocket engines to the United States

How quickly everyone forgot about trampolines ..

Money is needed and see the price lowered ..

[Starover_Z]

Quote: Svarog

Rogozin announced the readiness of Roskosmos to supply rocket engines to the United States

How quickly everyone forgot about trampolines ..

Just about, I just wanted to dial - What about trampolines for America, "mister" Rogozin ?! Not the people said this, and what ?!

[Altona]

Quote: Svarog

How quickly everyone forgot about trampolines ..

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america the beautiful

O beautiful for spacious skies
For amber waves of grain
For purple mountain majesties
Above your fruited plain
America, America
God shed His grace on thee
And crown thy good with brotherhood
From sea to shining sea

I get the impression that this song is on their smartphone and on the alarm clock. And instead of the Russian anthem, they sing God bless America ...

PS The song is made of a church hymn, if that.

[Tusv]

Quote: Svarog

How quickly everyone forgot about trampolines ..

Of course. Amusement parks are now closed.
And so, if you think about it. May we ban the supply of frustrating Pentagon launches - no. They will look for an alternative and will find quickly. Grandmas who will receive at the same time? Not Roscosmos for sure. Yes, and monitor launches will be problematic. To know When is easier to know What

[den3080]

Quote: Svarog

Rogozin announced the readiness of Roskosmos to supply rocket engines to the United States

How quickly everyone forgot about trampolines ..

Rogozin failed to establish the production of trampolines. We'll have to continue to supply engines.

[Shkodnick]

Quote: Svarog

Rogozin announced the readiness of Roskosmos to supply rocket engines to the United States

How quickly everyone forgot about trampolines ..

The textile industry now all went to tailoring masks, not to trampolines)

[Gray brother]

Quote: avia12005

and we are their engines. There are no words.

We also sell them oil, titanium, and Ural motorcycles ... no words

[mr.ZinGer]

More cartridges, the Saiga carbine, etc.

[SRC P-15]

Quote: mr.ZinGer

More cartridges, the Saiga carbine, etc.

But what have you all forgotten that we deliver their astronauts to space? Already got whiners ... And then they shout that we, apart from oil and gas, are not selling anything.

[Lannan Shi]

Quote: СРЦ П-15

And then they shout that we do not sell anything except oil and gas.

My dear ... We have sold 180 units for the entire existence of Russia, RD-120 For the amount of around 1 yard. And we sell oil per year in the region of 250 million tons, worth about 100 yards on average. So yes. Our export of high-tech goods prevails.

[SRC P-15]

Quote: Lannan Shi

My dear ... We have sold 180 units for the entire existence of Russia, RD-120 For the amount of around 1 yard. And we sell oil per year in the region of 250 million tons, worth about 100 yards on average. So yes. Our export of high-tech goods prevails.

For your information, oil and gas production refers specifically to high technology. The time has passed when oil spilled from the well itself. Current oil and gas production requires high technology everywhere. So your courtesy is useless.

[Lannan Shi]

Quote: СРЦ П-15

For your information, oil and gas production refers specifically to high technology.

Not in our case. You should find out why 1 / 2-2 / 3 of our oil reserves are inaccessible to us. And here I will not go into details, because the topic is not entirely about oil, or rather not at all about it.

[SRC P-15]

Quote: Lannan Shi

You should find out why 1 / 2-2 / 3 of our oil reserves are inaccessible to us.

You can not flaunt your knowledge of oil production in front of me. Even a first-grader knows that in most cases oil is only hard to recover and that requires advanced technologies. And those wells that we have frozen after sanctions were imposed on us will be discovered in due time and production will be carried out by our technologies. Everything has its time. It’s just that Russia at one time believed the West that everything could be bought in their market, and so it launched its oil industry. Nobody thought that we would be competing with dishonest methods - that is, by imposing sanctions. Every dog ​​has his day!

[Lannan Shi]

Quote: СРЦ П-15

in due time they will be discovered and production will be carried out by our technologies.

That's when they will be open, then say that oil is a high-tech product.

Quote: СРЦ П-15

It’s just that Russia at one time believed the West that everything can be bought in their market,

So they sold it. In general, no problem. And they gave loans to the oil industry. Also no problem. But here excuse me. Or patsian show-offs on a world scene, or the world is a chewing gum friendship. And the third is not given. Are you the type of states to blame? What they refuse to finance the confrontation with them? Where is the logic?

Quote: СРЦ П-15

No one thought

This is a normal condition for our authorities. Do not think at all.

[Roman123567]

"those wells that we have frozen after the imposition of sanctions on us will be opened in due time"

And what is it - in due time will be ??
Is it really not enough of their technologies ??)))

[Alf]

Quote: СРЦ П-15

Nobody thought that competition would be waged with us by dishonest methods.

To find out, it was enough to read the economic history of the West.

[Narak-zempo]

Quote: СРЦ П-15

For your information, oil and gas production refers specifically to high technology.

The only question is WHOSE high-tech Russian oil is extracted.

[Peter is not the first]

I would like you to continue the list of what we sell to them indefinitely, but start the offer a little differently:
Americans can’t do it themselves, and therefore BUY from us: ... ... ....
And further, further, further.

And we are investing this enemy money not in the West, but in our new technologies and production.

[Charik]

this enemy money is invested back in American papers

[figwam]

Quote: mr.ZinGer

More cartridges, the Saiga carbine, etc.

This has long been sanctioned and the supply of weapons and ammunition has long been gone.

[Rate]

Quote: Gray Brother

Quote: avia12005

and we are their engines. There are no words.

We also sell them oil, titanium, and Ural motorcycles ... no words

Children of their helmet for training and entertainment ..))))

Quote: SRC P-15

Already got whiners ... And then they shout that we, apart from oil and gas, are not selling anything.

Well, poke, we know how to do it on a grand scale ..

[Charik]

and gas, showed how a gas carrier stood near the shore while the Americans barked among themselves, supposedly Russian gas

[alekseykabanets]

Quote: avia12005

You are simply amazed, is it possible that in this world loot wins everything ??? The United States appoints the Russian Federation an enemy and stifles sanctions, and we are its engines. There are no words.

They will sell their green paper and their mother.

[xvot]

so be a patriot, buy a couple of engines for rubles and give it to your homeland

[alekseykabanets]

Quote: xvot

so be a patriot, buy a couple of engines for rubles and give it to your homeland

What else can I buy and give to any new-found heroes of labor, with accomplices? Do you think that we need to trade high-tech products with a potential adversary? Do you think that we need to help the United States develop its space program?

[RUSS]

Quote: avia12005

You are simply amazed, is it possible that in this world loot wins everything ??? The United States appoints the Russian Federation an enemy and stifles sanctions, and we are its engines. There are no words.

So without marketing engines, the production base as a whole may suffer

[Mountain shooter]

Quote: RUSS

So without marketing engines, the production base as a whole may suffer

These are the smart words! I am familiar with some of Energomash who are involved in the production of these engines ... during this time they have gotten a lot with all the necessary machinery ... and in terms of technology they have "risen" decently ... It is not always necessary to assume that the sale of high-tech products is harmful to our country. If the money received goes "for business" - then that's good.

[Finches]

As in this case, the Jews are constantly writing here - it is the Anglo-Saxons who will fly to Mars ... But, it will not be respectable for the "weak" Anglo-Saxons to fly in a Russian Kalosh!

If you argue sensibly, in the conditions of the market, selling US engines is the same as selling S-400 to Turkey ... The main thing is that the money go wherever we need and we, selling them RD-180 at our place (conditionally) already did RD-181 !

[2 Level Advisor]

only information about the "RD-181", something is not, but you are right of course

[Finches]

I hope this does not mean that they do not work on him!

[Altona]

Quote: Finches

As in this case, the Jews constantly write here - it is the Anglo-Saxons who will fly to Mars ...

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These engines are not for Mars, but for near-Earth orbit. The second, judging by the actions of our authorities, they themselves have long been on Mars and are broadcasting from there.

- What are they screaming?

- Sell.

- What are they selling?

- They sell everything. (Kin-Dza-Dza)

[Finches]

I say this figuratively! And so yes - When society has no color differentiation of pants, then there is no purpose!

[Altona]

Quote: Finches

I say this figuratively! And so yes

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“Do you still have seas on Earth?”

“There are seas, and rivers, and decent people, Mr. Uef.”

- Savages, I want to cry already.

“Why not the muzzles?” The order of Mr. PZ - to all the patsaks to wear muzzles. And rejoice.

Prophetic filmman.
PS - We pluklyuku circulated while we were on tour.

- For what?

- For the fact that we did not have time for them.

- And you for what?

- So as not to loom over your head!

“And everyone died?”

- Of course.

[Finches]

Clever and decent people, even among our creative intelligentsia, are rare, but there are such people, in 1986 they already understood where the national traitors who came to power lead our country!

[Peter is not the first]

It is possible that our former compatriots from the promised land are mistaken and the first to fly to Mars are not the Americans, but the Chinese. Already, they want violently to be somewhere first, and if they cannot become first on Mars, they will have to be first in the sun at night.

[Finches]

To be serious, mankind will only unite - it will fly to Mars faster, and if it finds out who writes to the wall above - it will not fly to Mars, but will fly to tartarar ...

[Peter is not the first]

But certainly neither the Americans with the Chinese, nor the Chinese with the Americans, for this purpose not unite. A more likely bunch of Americans with us.

[knn54]

Yuri, he is "above" this.

[Same lech]

The United States appoints the Russian Federation an enemy and stifles sanctions, and we are its engines. There are no words.

The USA is in a hurry to privatize the Moon, and here such help from those whom they have designated as an enemy ... of course the absurdity and surrealism of the situation are surprising.

[donavi49]

A drunk SLS flies to the moon. It is already being collected, if the coronovirus does not devour the team, then after 3 months they fly in the machine.

The ship itself. By the way, SuperGroups are still attracted to such crucial matters.

[Same lech]

Very interesting and detailed I want to know about all the details of the lunar program of the Americans do not share the link.

[Roman123567]

Yesterday, a clown proved to me in another thread that the United States is degrading in the space sector ..
And we are developing ..
Creating a new one is a degradation ..
But hucksterhood by the Soviet legacy is, they say, development ..))

[kjhg]

Quote: Roman123567

Yesterday, a clown proved to me in another thread that the United States is degrading in the space sector ..

Shovels? This may

[Altona]

Quote: donavi49

It’s already being collected if the coronovirus doesn’t eat the team,

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They already made lead pants, from solar radiation?

[donavi49]

So this is an automaton. They fly with various instruments and satellites, to fly around the moon and return. Artemis 2 - with a crew in 22 years. Artemis 3 - landing, already in 4k (or 8k) broadcast.

[Svetlana]

Quote: avia12005

You are simply amazed, is it possible that in this world loot wins everything ??? The United States appoints the Russian Federation an enemy and stifles sanctions, and we are its engines. There are no words.

Not everything is so simple. They pay loot for the engines, a good loot that goes both to the salaries of workers and engineers and the development of production, and to the state (doctors, pensioners, teachers, etc.)
In addition to the United States, no one needs these engines in such quantity, and if they are not sold, then they should cover production.
Do you propose to curtail production? And to throw out the extra people on the street? Or retrain production for the production of pots? What exactly can you suggest?
...
In short, not everything is so simple. Remember that the Russians broke their relations with Russia and closed all their factories. And they have to buy what they only recently produced themselves.

[onix757]

Do you propose to curtail production? And to throw out the extra people on the street? Or retrain production for the production of pots? What exactly can you suggest?

And the option of turning the space program of the Russian Federation from science fiction into reality are not considered? Maybe engines will be in demand. Although what am I talking about ..

[Svetlana]

Exactly, what are you talking about? I asked specifically what to do with production if the contract was terminated. To break today or "yesterday" is what many patriots dream of. What to do?
And we have to dream about the future so far.

[ALARI]

And in Russia over the past years, what projects are being implemented to use these engines themselves, and not to serve the potential enemy and not to close the plant? I personally have not heard or seen. But Rogozin and people like you are hiding behind people from the enterprise where these engines are made, so that from year to year nothing is done.

[Svetlana]

Thin the place of the Russian space industry is the production of radiation-resistant microcircuits. And before the start of their production, all space projects will be only on paper. And the engines .... yes, they too can become a thin spot if you stop their production and disperse the staff.

[ALARI]

It will not be in Russia to decide whether or not to produce these engines, the United States will stop purchasing and the plant will be closed or work at a warehouse. If we also deal with microcircuits in your faces as well as in space, then you should not wait for a new round of space exploration in Russia in the near future.

[Heet]

Quote: ALARI

It will not be in Russia to decide whether or not to produce these engines, the United States will stop purchasing and the plant will be closed or work at a warehouse.

Why should the plant be closed due to the abandonment of the RD-180, Energomash no longer produces other engines?

[ALARI]

Svetlan wrote a little higher about the closure of the plant, if not selling RD-180 USA. It may produce, but those people who RD-180 where to put?

[Svarog]

Quote: ALARI

And in Russia in recent years what projects are being implemented

In Russia, several projects are being implemented:
1. Project "Zeroing".
2. The project of personal enrichment of a narrow group of people who are close to nullified or to his friends
3. The "self-isolation" project
4. The project of stripping citizens through loans and taxes
5. The brainwashing project for a not very reasonable electorate (Soloviev, Kiselev and others ..)

[ALARI]

I know about these projects, they are being implemented on a large scale and ahead of schedule. But I would like to know about space that we have on the finish line, and not as a script for a science fiction film like Mars ours)

[Svarog]

Quote: ALARI

I know about these projects, they are being implemented on a large scale and ahead of schedule. But I would like to know about space that we have on the finish line, and not as a script for a science fiction film like Mars ours)

Now it’s not time to go to space .. everything needs to be done during time, when there was oil for $ 100 .. but then they saw what the light was on, and now another problem is on the nose .. only restaurateurs are reduced from two million, but in general after self-isolation in the market labor will be from 10 to 20 million unemployed ..

[ALARI]

This spring still comes around to us, we will crawl out of this situation with the economy for about 5 years if the virus self-destructs, and if not, then the steep peak of our near future.

[Same lech]

brainwashing not very reasonable electorate (Solovyov, Kiselev

Ah Vladimir ... Vladimir
I regularly watch and carefully listen to what these guys are saying ... a lot of interesting things can be gleaned from their speeches ... unless of course you look between the lines and the agreements in their programs.
What matters is not only their verbal flow, but also what topics they push into people's heads, how they present the topic, at what time, in what resources ... what people are invited to the programs ... when you start to summarize and analyze all this, you understand a little what directed and for what the Kremlin’s efforts in the field of public information.

[Svarog]

Quote: The same LYOKHA

what the Kremlin’s public information efforts are aimed at and why.

And what do you think the Kremlin’s efforts in the field of public information are aimed at?

[Same lech]

To brainwash the trust electorate before making the next unpopular decisions and laws.
When the next whistle begins with some kind of Kremlin idea, wait for surprises for the people.

[Svarog]

Quote: The same Lech

To brainwash the trust electorate before making the next unpopular decisions and laws.
К

So we see the same picture

[slipped]

Quote: ALARI

I personally have not heard or seen.

The creation of Soyuz-6, using the RD-180MV in the first stage, will begin in 2022, after the start of flight design tests of Soyuz-5. Both missiles will be unified by components. Soyuz-6 has a slightly smaller tank size. The Soyuz-5 rocket is now at the stage of creating mock-ups for bench tests.

[onix757]

To break today or "yesterday" is what many patriots dream of.

These "patriots" have been selling the Soviet engine for more than 20 years and are still ready to sell the same amount, only in the decision to prolong the contract Roscosmos plays the role of an extra.

What to do?

If the Russian Federation has nothing to do in space, then do nothing.

[avia12005]

I propose to develop our domestic space industry so that the Americans have to queue for RD-180 for many years. And why do we need consumptive bucks ???

[Vilensky]

Quote: avia12005

You are simply amazed, is it possible that in this world loot wins everything ???

In this world, the hamster and the toad won. But they believe that the northern fur animal will not come to them.

[lucul]

You are simply amazed, is it possible that in this world loot wins everything ??? The United States appoints the Russian Federation an enemy and stifles sanctions, and we are its engines. There are no words.

So the Americans were not our enemies, unlike those who control them ....

[Alf]

Quote: lucul

So the Americans were not our enemies, unlike those who control them ...

Come on ? And who chooses "those who govern them"?

[iouris]

Quote: avia12005

and we are their engines

Let them choke. And we appoint the United States as our great senior friend and enjoy our hugs very much, says Ilona Mask!

[Mihail2019]

I read somewhere a long time ago - "in the fight between good and evil, the loot won!"
It's sad, of course .. And I immediately recall the scene from "Brother-2", when they cooked crayfish in the evening on the shore, and a black man prevented them ..

[prior]

For 30 years since the collapse of the USSR, the most developed country in the world (USA) has not learned how to make "galoshes" produced in the USSR.

[Grandfather]

Quote: prior

For 30 years since the collapse of the USSR, the most developed country in the world (USA) has not learned how to make "galoshes" produced in the USSR.

apparently cheaper to buy, and no need to bother. forces can be used for a more serious matter.

[prior]

The fact that America "uses, bends and benefits everyone" is an axiom.

[KCA]

The fact is that they even bother, but while the trouble goes, you need to fly, by the way, the license for the RD-180, which the Americans have, allows them to collect them themselves, but not fate, and the license is ending soon

[Rate]

Quote: Dead Day

Quote: prior

For 30 years since the collapse of the USSR, the most developed country in the world (USA) has not learned how to make "galoshes" produced in the USSR.

apparently cheaper to buy, and no need to bother. forces can be used for a more serious matter.

Well zaliz counted, pray to your USA ...

[Grandfather]

Quote: Stavka

Well zaliz counted, pray to your USA ...

Mian ... Meehan ... you can’t remake ...

[Vilensky]

buy cheaper

Of course, if, apart from the production of candy wrappers, you do not succeed.

[askort154]

Grandfather ..apparently cheaper to buy, and no need to bother. forces can be used for a more serious matter.

No ! They are corny can not make such an engine themselves. We started developing our BE-4 engine, instead of the RD-180, back in 2000. We planned to launch missiles on it by 2014. It didn’t work out, they postponed the deadline for 2020 - 2025.
Therefore, not in vain, they are forced to call the RD-180 - a phenomenal engine.

[bar]

For 30 years since the collapse of the USSR, the most developed country in the world (USA) has not learned how to make "galoshes" produced in the USSR.

The grimaces of the capitalist economy, where even military orders are carried out by private shops.

[mole]

What about "trampolines"?

[bar]

Roskosmos is ready to continue supplying the United States with the Russian space engines RD-180

For a beloved friend, at least an earring of their abalone.
Salvage wins everything ...

[APASUS]

The Americans instantly cut us off under sanctions, all the high-tech equipment went the first list under the ban, and we gave them rocket engines!

[KCA]

They also have a ban on the import of high-tech products from Russia, on RD-180 Congress gives a special permit for the purchase

[APASUS]

Quote: KCA

They also have a ban on the import of high-tech products from Russia, on RD-180 Congress gives a special permit for the purchase

I actually drum, how they buy these engines, we sell them to a potential enemy! And he openly speaks to the whole world

[donavi49]

Well, what choice ??? Close engine manufacturer and cut technlinia live Russia 1?
The USA is the only customer of these engines. There are no more launch vehicles for them.

Moreover, the domestic launch program is not growing. The main foreign customer of launches went bankrupt. 7 launches hung, prospects fell another ten.

[APASUS]

Quote: donavi49

Well, what choice ??? Close engine manufacturer and cut technlinia live Russia 1?

Fight for the launch market, not chew snot, justifying the frank betrayal of the interests of the country!

[Peter is not the first]

You need to fight for the market, but there is only one way: to reduce the launch cost, and this is either to come up with something revolutionary and cheap, for example, a space "trampoline", or to reduce the cost of launching with a large series of both rockets and various engines, and this is exactly where the sale engines helps the Americans. If it were not for this contract, the cost of our internal launches would have become even higher and we will definitely lose this market for putting satellites into orbit.

[APASUS]

Quote: Peter is not the first

reduce the cost of launch, or is it something to come up with revolutionary and cheap,

Roscosmos is the first in terms of violations in financial discipline, it may simply not be necessary to steal, and launch prices themselves will suit them, because the ruble has also fallen.
While Rogozin and Co. only ideas on the mountain can give out well, where we have the promised breakthrough with the Angara, Baikal, Federation, there is a list of promises in thickness, that Dahl’s dictionary

[Peter is not the first]

Yes, I forgot about this path that you can simply not steal. But he acts only when there is something to steal, and if there are no orders from the state and from the Americans, then quickly the assets for theft will disappear. At first, technologies will be sold cheaply over a hill, and then land under production for Chinese markets, which we passed in the 90s.
So let them produce, use for the good of Russia and sell to the side, and of course DO NOT STEAL.

[Altona]

Quote: Peter is not the first

So let them produce, use for the good of Russia and sell to the side, and of course DO NOT STEAL.

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The Vortical doesn’t work like that, not for that it was built.

[Heet]

Quote: donavi49

Well, what choice ??? Close engine manufacturer and cut technlinia live Russia 1?

Why should the engine manufacturer close? Energomash does not produce other engines except RD-180?

[donavi49]

Does, but:
Foreign contracts provide more than half of the proceeds the main part is formed from the supply of rocket engines in the USA - RD-180 for the United Launch Alliance and RD-181 for Orbital ATK.

[Altona]

Quote: donavi49

Well, what choice ??? Close engine manufacturer and cut technlinia live Russia 1?

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What does the engine manufacturer have to do with it? We are talking about a discrepancy between words and deeds when the face of the enemy is painted in the face of the United States, and then the United States sells rocket engines. It's about that. The same thing about the enhanced purchase of treasuries.

[onix757]

and invited the head of the American company to visit Moscow to continue negotiations on further deliveries of Russian engines to the United States, as the current contract ends at the end of 2020.

And then they felt in Roskosmos that something had gone wrong ..

[Amateur]

Quote: Dead Day

apparently cheaper to buy, and no need to bother. forces can be used for a more serious matter.

It was under this slogan that the Soviet military-industrial complex and other industry were ruined.
We are still unable to restore aircraft manufacturing, machine tool building, radio electronics and other industries.
So he will wish the American "partners" "You are going the right way, comrades, straight to *** (a bright future)."

[Peter is not the first]

Namely, in order to preserve these production technologies in Russia, it is necessary to produce, and if you produce it, you must either put them yourself in your rockets and launch a commercial load (and this is better), or sell engines and not only them, but also other high-tech products, those who have money.

[Andrei Nikolaevich]

Strange ... but what about ,, trampoline ,,? ..

[sanik2020]

There is less sarcasm, just the amers are tired of their dependence on Russian engines, and the country has its own manufacturers who lobby for their products, although not exceeding the Russian one. They swelled a lot of money into their own rocket and engine building and now announced that without the help of Russia they will fly to the ISS and explore space. It was in Roscosmos that they were afraid to remain without such a buyer, and the money, as they say does not smell, is not up to the show.

[Reserve buildbat]

In Roscosmos were afraid that the mattresses on their statements will reach the ISS? You really do not talk)))

[onix757]

In Roscosmos were afraid that the mattresses on their statements will reach the ISS? You really do not talk)))

May 27 will show who crap where.

[Reserve buildbat]

And what will happen on May 27? Manned launch of mattresses on their engines? I'm just not up to date. While they are throwing only satellites on their own, and that’s not all)))

[Infinity]

Quote: stock buildbat

And what will happen on May 27? Manned launch of mattresses on their engines? I'm just not up to date. While they are throwing only satellites on their own, and that’s not all)))

Yes, the manned launch of SpaceX Dragon 2 spacecraft by Ilona Mask on the Falcon 9 launch vehicle (Block 5 version), by the way, is the most frequently launched launch vehicle in the United States, according to statistics, and in 2018 in the world. It has its own engines Merlin 1D - 9 pcs. on the first stage and 1 (in the Vacuum modification) on the second.

[Reserve buildbat]

Thank you, I will buy popcorn)))

[Reserve buildbat]

Thanks. I managed to somehow skip this article. Literally just found and read. Save some cash for popcorn.

[Konor]

Quote: stock buildbat

And what will happen on May 27? Manned launch of mattresses on their engines? I'm just not up to date. While they are throwing only satellites on their own, and that’s not all)))

Don’t pay attention to these dogs of the State Department ..!
For 10 years they will try their full joys and their vaunted Elon Musk is an ordinary PR man .... Let them scream and shiver in the lap ..
While the ISS lives at the expense of Russia -SSSR! .. They do not reach their Russian designers with their trillion budgets!
So they yell here, dousing everyone and everyone .. from anger.
Laba have a gut so simple and reliable engines to build ..!

[slipped]

Quote: onix757

May 27 will show who crap where.

God, they will capture the ISS! After the start of the flights of Americans on their ships, our astronauts on the ISS will become more. Russia has three astronauts in the main crew of the ISS. Yes, there are already two of them today, and only one American. And Europeans with the Japanese flying on the American quota were sent by them to .... wait.

[Jurkovs]

Fools and roads.

[Gardamir]

Beware of false prophets who come to you in sheep's clothing, and inside they are predatory wolves.
16 By their fruits you will know them. Do they gather grapes from thorns, or figs from thistles?
17 So every good tree bears good fruit, but a bad tree bears bad fruit.
18 A good tree can not bring forth evil fruit, nor a bad tree bring forth good fruit.
19 Every tree that does not bear good fruit is cut down and thrown into the fire.
20 So by their fruits you will know them.

Everything has already been said a thousand years ago, but we are still walking along the rake. We come up with idols, call patriots, those who do not hide their attachment to the enemies of Russia. will we again understand when it will be too late.

[Svarog]

Quote: Gardamir

we call patriots, those who do not hide their attachment to the enemies of Russia. will we again understand when it will be too late.

Putriots ... they are called .. And yes, as usual, we will understand when it will be too late.

[voyaka uh]

Roscosmos needs a currency.
OneWeb went bankrupt. And she had 7 launches planned at the Unions.
It is unclear whether they paid for the recent launch.
ULA is doing bad. SpaceX beat off their most commercial launches
(like Roskosmos). And they will not be the first to fly to the ISS.
Therefore, cheap efficient engines of the Soviet era will be very useful to them.

[Mikhalych]

Roscosmos needs a currency.

Roscosmos needs to move its space program. And the dollar has depreciated 1961 times since 30.

[donavi49]

Well, ULA has a normal lobby, therefore, they will survive due to over-priced state orders. However, there the Volcano Centaurus ripens on BE4. Immediately dense family. Atlas will only have manned launches.

[voyaka uh]

If Musk launches StarLink, then ULA will show up compared to SpaceX
village bench. StarLink has hundreds of billions of potential.
NASA Hyperactive Mask is a little afraid now, and if it turns into
space multi billionaire, then he will lower three skins from them.

[donavi49]

StarLink is the Internet.

Starship is a revolutionary project. If it takes off and shows the given parameters, then a new era in astronautics will begin. All other PHs (except small ones) will become obsolete at once. All other manufacturers will start making similar Starships. HOWEVER, any revolutionary project can fail. And then, it will hurt Musk from competitors, because he does not properly update his Falcon, the main money and R&D resources go to the Starship. If he fails, then just other competitors (the same Bezos, Yula, the Chinese) will overtake his 9k.

YULA - makes a low-risk project. Classic, but with improved performance and methane BE4.

[voyaka uh]

"for he does not properly update his Falcon" ///
-----
The Falcons will launch bundles of satellites for Starlink.
Unions are also updated only cosmetically for 60 years.
Four "Queen Carrots" are still working
Bezos is obsessed with his Amazon baby. His nightmare is not Musk, but Jack Ma.
Alibaba. He will build rockets to launch satellites for Amazon.

[Heet]

Quote: voyaka uh

Unions are also updated only cosmetically for 60 years.

For some reason I’m sure that your level in rocket science is low for this kind of statement. Modern Union-2, this is probably not the same as the Union of the 60s.

[slipped]

Quote: Heet

Modern Union-2, this is probably not the same as the Union of the 60s.

Absolutely.

[Mavrikiy]

invited the head of the American company to visit Moscow to continue negotiations

We will save the head of the American company from the coronavirus!

[Reserve buildbat]

What kind of collaboration? What is the visit to Moscow? Home March, Loafers! Self-isolation, yomt!

[Mikhalych]

Quote: aleksejkabanets

They will sell their green paper and their mother.

Dear, what green paper ?! Some digits in a bank car. Here everything is played by the multiplication table. Today, amers have 2x2 = 4, and tomorrow there may be 0. Arithmetic edrites its tudes.

[Ross xnumx]

Rogozin announced the readiness of Roskosmos to supply rocket engines to the United States

It remains to know - in exchange for what? To trampolines?

[Maks1995]

Salvage wins everything !!!
What can’t you do for the sake of 600-3000% of profit (6 salaries of experienced astronauts +% on shares and deposits)

[Grading]

Quote: stock buildbat

In Roscosmos were afraid that the mattresses on their statements will reach the ISS? You really do not talk)))

mattresses will fly on

which uses Merlin

[NordUral]

Salvage broke the backbone of the Russian authorities, if they are vertebrates at all.

[rocket757]

Twenty five again. There is nothing to discuss, it will be so long ....

[Ros 56]

Miracle Rogozin, it would be better if he announced preparations for a flight to the moon OUR astronauts, and not rumbled engines.

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Quote: Ros 56

Miracle Rogozin, it would be better if he announced preparations for a flight to the moon OUR astronauts, and not rumbled engines.

This has been said more than once. We have a series of international insulating experiments just related to preparing for the flight to the moon.

[Roman123567]

Lucky idiots ..
Someone worked, developed, designed all their lives ..
And then you and the Unions are ready, and engines .. and nafta for 120 bucks .. Trade - I do not want ..
And tell everyone how successful and wise you are ..
But .. the shop slowly closes ..

[Alf]

Quote: Roman123567

But .. the shop slowly closes ..

Yes, not slowly.

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Quote: Roman123567

Lucky idiots ..
Someone worked, developed, designed all their lives ..
And then you and the Unions are ready, and engines .. and nafta for 120 bucks .. Trade - I do not want ..
And tell everyone how successful and wise you are ..

I wouldn’t act like a neighbor’s: I don’t get it

[Mayak-SH-7]

Well, hat-takers, we continue to laugh from Ukraine, neighing over the Neptunes and Ukrainians took and did.

At the exposition of Yuzhnoye Design Bureau on Dubai Airshow in December 2019, they presented a project for exploring the moon - “Lender Hopper”

The project was founded and funded by a native of Ukraine, a billionaire, the founder and CEO of the British startup Spacebit.

“The concept is not so new,” says Pavel Tanasyuk, founder of Spacebit. - The European Space Agency had an idea to build a hopper, about 20 years ago, but it never turned into a real project. We are the first to actually do this.

“It’s important to be able to re-fly, as the choice of landing location may ultimately not be ideal,” he says.

As you know, NASA is currently actively working on the lunar program Artemis, which involves the first re-landing of astronauts on the south pole of the moon by 2024 and permanent missions by 2028. It seems that the Dnepropetrovsk state enterprise Yuzhny is determined to become part of the new lunar program of the American space department. At the 16th Dubai International Airshow 2019, the Ukrainian company presented a conceptual design of a family of lander to study the surface of the moon.

For starters, you should watch the official video with landing animation and a demonstration of the capabilities of the lunar lander or, as it is called in Yuzhny, a “Lender Hopper”. The video describes in detail the design features and lists the main technical characteristics of the device, and at the very beginning you can see the concept of a self-sufficient lunar base, on which Yuzhny has been working for a long time, at least since 2016.

It is planned that the take-off mass of the device (without payload) will be 1715 kg, while 1310 kg is the weight of the generated fuel. So far, the nameless lunar lander “Yuzhny” will be able to deliver a cargo weighing up to 150 kg to the surface of the moon and carry out up to three flights with scientific equipment. In this case, the payload mass is greatly reduced - with a load of 50 kg the device will be able to jump and fly over a distance of up to 20 km. The final mass of the device (payload + device design) is declared equal to 405 kg.

The landing module is planned to be equipped with seven RD-840 engines, whose characteristics are listed in the image below.

The total thrust of the engines will be about 285 kilogram-forces (that is, it can tear off such a maximum mass from the Earth), the minimum thrust during landing is 40,7 kilogram-forces.

At Dubai Airshow 2019, for the first time, a 1: 5 scale LPA model, manufactured by the Yuzhnoye Design Bureau on its own using additive technologies, was shown.

In late February, NASA head Jim Brydenstein announced that the US space agency is interested in attracting Ukraine to the exploration of the moon.

Recall that at the end of last year, the CLPS (Commercial Lunar Payload Services) program was introduced, aimed at stimulating the development of landing gears and commercial services for delivering goods to the Moon. Together with others, Firefly Aerospace with the owner of the Ukrainian and office in the Dnieper is participating in it.

The Moon Grasshopper is scheduled to ship in 2021.

PS: Also, the exposition presents models of promising launch vehicles Cyclone-1M, Cyclone-4M, Mayak-SH-5, Mayak-M3.9, dimensional and dynamic layout of the YuzhSat spacecraft, cruise engine RD-843, as well as a platform for a virtual walk along the Lunar industrial research base developed by the Design Bureau "Southern".

[Narak-zempo]

Quote: Mayak-SH-7

The Moon Grasshopper is scheduled to ship in 2021.

The idea of ​​"skipping" does not leave the minds of Svidomo. Only the Moon is not Maidan, you cannot light the tires there

[Mayak-SH-7]

What is your gloating? You at least understand who you expose yourself to, I don’t know how old you are, but you look like a child, some kind of wretched thinking, the level of boys, nothing substantial on the topic. Good luck!

[Narak-zempo]

And what did you want to achieve by posting provocative material on a site where, to put it mildly, it is not welcome. As the saying goes, what is hi, that’s the answer.

[Mayak-SH-7]

and what is the provocation, I published the news within the framework of this topic, namely "Cosmos", this site also publishes news from Ukraine, what is the provocation, I do not understand, re-read the comments of your compatriots are they also engaged in provocation?

[Narak-zempo]

News is different. You could write how Yuzhmash is falling apart. This is good news, right.

[Mayak-SH-7]

As "Yuzhmash" is falling apart, I specially posted the videos below so that you enjoy it. That's all, I see no reason to conduct a dialogue with a notorious interlocutor. Good luck! I will not answer!

[Narak-zempo]

Drain counted

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Quote: Mayak-SH-7

Well, we continue to laugh from Ukraine,

Ага.

[A.TOR]

Great!
Somehow, over the past 10 years, I have ceased to monitor cosmonautics (due to leaving for another type of activity), but what you showed is very cool and creative
Success to Yuzhmash residents - let everything work out!

[Mayak-SH-7]

I recommend hat-takers to familiarize themselves!

[slipped]

And this is completely assembled in Russia for Ukraine, but still not a sought-after Lybid satellite, collected with Canadian money.

The Canadian company that invested in the project is bankrupt.

[Mayak-SH-7]

Let it gather dust, it's yours! You have nothing to worry about, you are not bankrupt. There, I think they will sort out the finances without you, the main thing is that the construction of a cosmodrome in Nova Scotia for Ukrainian Cyclone missiles is going on at a time when Yuzhmash is testing engines for it. Moreover, Yuzhmash is working in parallel with SpaceBit and NASA to send Hopper to the moon. Pavel Tanasyuk: "No one has been to the moon from private companies. All private attempts to" land on the moon "(and there was only one - by an Israeli company) were unsuccessful. We want to become one of the first companies to be on the moon. We plan to launch on American rocket Vulcan Centaur for July 2021. Space was my dream since childhood. At the age of 5 I painted a picture about space, it is still stored. Later, at school, I studied astronomy - building telescopes. After that I went to study economics at Kiev University, then two universities in England (London School of Economics and Cambridge), worked in consulting and banking.We and Yura Chaika founded the Monexy payment system, and after Monexy was sold, I decided to return to my childhood dream and take up space.

[slipped]

Quote: Mayak-SH-7

Let it gather dust, it is yours!

So there is no, he is yours, we do not need someone else! You also borrowed money on it. Everything is so with you - on loan.

[Golovan Jack]

Quote: Mayak-SH-7

Let it gather dust, it's yours

Eh .. the phrase "dead money" you obviously haven’t come across in your life yet.

[1536]

On May 27, 2020, a new American manned spacecraft is flying into Space (according to media reports). In 2024, the landing of American astronauts on the moon was announced, declaring it a "US space state."
"And what about Russia?" Yes, it is better to be silent in this case. The hope is that at last there will be national and professional pride in the Russian space industry. And there will be no place in it for sycophants, hangers-on and opportunists.

[Mayak-SH-7]

For you, I shortened the interview of the Director General of the NGO named after Lavochkin Vladimir Kolmykov with full preservation of information content:

- What's with Luna-25?
- The aircraft did not start to do. According to the plan, they should finish it in March 2021. The launch date is October 1 of next year. ESA made its instruments.

- And the next "Moon" 26 and 27?
- For "Luna-26" we are completing the design documentation, making a model. Launched in 2024. Luna-27 is also at the stage of issuing a CD, which should be completed in November 2021. ESA makes its own devices.

- And ESA will not fall off, tired of your transfers?
- It shouldn't.

- "Bereshit" and "Chandrayan-2" in 2019 welled up. Are you not afraid?
- We did not follow them.

- What about Luna-28 and the delivery of a frozen core sample to Earth?
- We did the advance project, that's all.

- What about the research work "Luna-Lunokhod" and "Luna-29"?
- TSNIIMash writes something there.

- Will there be anything after Luna-29?
“There will probably be something.”

- Send "Fedor" -centaur to the moon, as Rogozin wanted?
- Well, we exchanged brochures with the NGO "Android Technology".

- How is Exomars progressing?
- The device remains in France. The tests are not completed, because the border with Italy is now closed. In addition, you need to refine software and on-board systems. Significant changes to the mission due to the transfer will not be required.

- There was also such "Phobos-Grunt 2", aka "Boomerang".
- We have finished the preliminary project recently. But what is the point if the Japanese bring soil from Phobos in a few years? It is necessary to change the tasks of the mission.

- Remains "Venus-D"?
- Ha ha, we didn’t even start the preliminary project. https://ria.ru/20200414/1569962968.html

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Quote: Mayak-SH-7

For you, I shortened the interview of the Director General of the NGO named after Lavochkin Vladimir Kolmykov with full preservation of information content:

Have you decided to lie?

1. The aircraft did not start to do (specifically, your lies, Kalmykov didn’t say that)

Answer: The aircraft is going, equipment is being supplied to it.

2. - And ESA will not fall off, tired of your transfers? (your interpretation of the journalist's question)

Answer: ESA is not "tired" of transfers, they have transfers themselves, for example, according to "Exomars".

3. Are not afraid? (your interpretation of the journalist's question)

Answer: we do not need the experience of Israel and India in this matter, we have our own.

4. They did the advance project, that's all.

Answer: there is no such launch in the current federal space program, therefore while advance project.

5. - TSNIIMash writes something there.

Answer: VNIITransmash has long developed a chassis for various moon rovers and rovers.

6. “There will probably be something.”

Answer: The Lunar Program is now in preparation for the government.

7. - Well, we "exchanged brochures" with the NGO "Android Technology".

Answer: There is fruitful collaboration ahead.

8. It is necessary to change the tasks of the mission. (invented themselves, Kalmykov said something else)

Answer: The tasks of the preliminary project "Boomerang" are much broader than those of the Japanese project.

9. - Ha ha, we didn’t even start the preliminary project.

Answer: Haha. A working group for the Venera-D project has been created and is now working.

[Charik]

but how Rogozin was then not allowed into America, this is finally a shame on him; he also offers them, well, buy-pah

[Amateur]

Quote: Mayak-SH-7

At the exposition of Yuzhnoye Design Bureau on Dubai Airshow in December 2019, they presented a project for exploring the moon - “Lender Hopper”

Then our Ukrainian guest burst out with such prospects for the exploration of the moon by Ukrainian rockets with English money, which inevitably raises the question: will they dig the seas there, or vice versa, align the mountains

That’s why the robot is not a part of the Black Sea

(because other work is unworthy of the descendants of the diggers of the Black Sea)

[evgen1221]

That is, this statement after trampolines can be clearly interpreted as capitular in space. Why develop your own, let's sell? So chtoli Mr. Rogozin?

[cniza]

he said, adding that at the end of the 90s of the last century, the US government asked the company to buy RD-180 engines for Atlas missiles so that Russian technologies would not get into North Korea and Iran.

More like slyness ...

[U-58]

Very well. Engines are bought by the one who paid for their creation.
Take-sell.
There is no reason to neigh, to cook.
And after three years, it will fit right when the purchases end forever.

[parusnik]

The State Corporation "Roscosmos" is ready to continue supplying the Russian space engines RD-180 to the USA

... All the same, engines, not trampolines ... Yeah ... Rogozin, is not responsible for the "bazaar" .. The saddest thing is that it turns out that all sorts of threats against the United States from Russia are just an empty phrase ... And besides, the United States and Russia, with their sanctions against each other, are tearing economies to shreds, only down and feathers, from two friendly "capitalist countries, somehow they don't fly ...

[Maks-80]

Traders in power. These hucksters for money will sell anything

[Grading]

Rosco

Quote: Tiksi-3

Rogozin said - that the engines are trampolines ..... the talking head should leave the horizons of Russia!

Roscosmos turned into a corruption cesspool for cutting the budget. And with the loss of sales of engines and the launch of astronauts and satellites, the industry will go into oblivion.

[Comrade Michael]

And someone doubted that you were ready to do anything to help the more powerful and successful capitalists?

[7,62x54]

Rogozin stood right when he said this, or bowing?

[georggy]

Well done Ragozin and Co ...

[Pvi1206]

The USSR has not existed for 30 years already, and Russia still enjoys its fruits. Where are the new space developments? In Karaganda ... In the USSR, the creation of such a technique was led by specialists, and now it is a complete mess ... In the conditions of underfunding, many left themselves, someone was forced to do this ... Now "the main skeet" we have is a Doctor of Philosophy Rogozin. His dissertation is devoted to a fake - about Russian communities of our time ... There was such a "party" ... which he headed ...

[Jean-paul marat]

Quote: Svarog

Quote: Snail N9

. True in the United States, the system acted no less efficiently based solely on the reward system.

The USA just acted extremely inefficiently. This is evidenced by the terrible crisis of 1929-39. And it was with the advent of Hitler that the United States began to recover ...

But how are Hitler’s rise to power and the beginning of a way out of the crisis interconnected?

[Dikson]

Well, well .. the cabman’s foreman thanked the owners for still paying for his services ... Decent news ..

[Volzhanin64]

Earlier it was published that the contract with the United Launch Alliance (ULA) is onerous for the Russian Federation, but then it suddenly turns out to be profitable. The only question is who? I think that this eaten-up General Space Manager, although it is difficult to call him "effective", definitely has his own interest.

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Quote: Volzhanin64

Previously it was printed that the contract with the United Launch Alliance (ULA) is enslaving for the Russian Federation, but here it suddenly turns out to be profitable. The only question is to whom?

It was previously published that the Americans are now paying exorbitant prices for each of our engines. Therefore, it is profitable for us to sell them.

[Golovan Jack]

Quote: Volzhanin64

Previously it was printed that the contract with the United Launch Alliance (ULA) is enslaving for the Russian Federation

Where - printed? Now freedom of speech, IMHO, excessive. But if it was printed "on the fence" - then yes, this is the most truthful information ...

"Printed", damn it

I think

Right?

[KCA]

Bonded is when at a loss or imposes any restrictions, not at a loss for sure, but what may be the restrictions on the supply of engines specially designed for Atlas and no longer worth anything?

[archiroll]

how many seconds should the green printing machine work to buy 1 real engine ...

[Alf]

Quote: arhitroll

how many seconds should the green printing machine work to buy 1 real engine ...

635 million dollars are printed per day.
One RD-180 costs the states 11.225.000 dollars.
We count. The machine should work 25 minutes.

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Quote: Alf

One RD-180 costs the states 11.225.000 dollars.
We count. The machine should work 25 minutes.

one RD-180 costs over $ 15 million and is bought for rubles, let's count ... oops, but it turns out like a whole "Proton-M".

[rus-5819]

And what is Rogozin famous for besides selling to the left, scandals with "Vostochny" missile launch failures?
Isn't it time for us to appoint professionals to high positions, and not journalists, lawyers and other "managers" ??? In my opinion, their era has already passed. It is time for the authorities to realize this.

[Alf]

Quote: rus-5819

Is it not time for us to appoint professionals to high positions ... It is time for the authorities to realize this.

The smart ones are not needed, the faithful are needed.

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Quote: Alf

The smart ones are not needed, the faithful are needed.

Hey, you faithful, hiding behind the Soviet emblem, where were you in 1992, when your Union collapsed? AND? War sofa ....

We have a launch in five days - the next truck flies to the station with a load of science, food and fuel. And people work, even in a pandemic, in good conscience so that everything is fine:

[Alf]

Quote: slipped

Hey, you faithful, hiding behind the Soviet emblem, where were you in 1992, when your Union collapsed? AND? War sofa ....

Sonya, he dragged the service. And over people like you held an umbrella.
And now I'm not sitting at home, but I am doing NK-32.
P.S. I don’t put a minus because of pity.

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Quote: Alf

P.S. I don’t put a minus because of pity.

Oh well. You can insert a minus for yourself for holding an umbrella there.