A break of almost 10 years: The date of sending US astronauts into space on an American spacecraft was announced

It is reported that the United States, after an almost 10-year break, is preparing to send a manned spacecraft into space. It will be a spaceship aboard which two American astronauts will go to the ISS. The flight is scheduled for May 27.

The reports say that SpaceX was obliged by the SpaceX company Ilona Mask to bring US astronauts into orbit. She will use the Falcon9 rocket to send the SpaceX Crew Dragon spacecraft to the ISS.

Astronauts who, after a long break in the activities of the American manned space program, will go into orbit are 48-year-old Bob Benken and 52-year-old Dag Hurley. The exact time of the expected start is also known - 20:32 GMT.

Information confirms the head of NASA Jim Brydenstein.

Recall that the American manned space program was put on a long pause after the disaster with Columbia in 2003 and a number of related factors. The catastrophe led the American side to the search for solutions for spacecraft. While solutions were being sought, astronauts from the United States and other countries reserved seats in Russian Soyuz for flights to orbit.

The company Ilona Mask became the one that offered its option with delivery to space. SpaceX rival in this regard is the American company Boeing. Both companies have already sent their spaceships into space with an unmanned version. At the same time, the ship "Star liner", owned by Boeing, could not reach the ISS after returning to Earth. However, the Boeing still said that they were going to carry out a manned flight “in the near future”. At the company of Ilon Mask, things are somewhat better in terms of sending vehicles to space.

Comments

[michael2000]

Somehow I fear for the life of American cosmonauts. Especially in light of recent events ...

[KAV]

Well, let's see. The start is just around the corner. But, something the age of astronauts raises questions. Are they too old for such flights?

[Teberii]

They were like cucumbers 10 years ago. And now, apparently, they are the only volunteers. So let them succeed, because they take risks.

[donavi49]

They have there a detachment larger than ours is already formed.

Dragon:
USCV-1 - the first real mission for six months in the fall
Hopkins (166 days in space)
Glover (rookie squad, first flight)
Shannon Walker (163 days in space)
Noguchi (173 days in space)

Boeing:
CFT - test mission as the hero of the article
Ferguson (Boeing pilot, 40 days in space)
Finke (380 days in space)
Mann (Novice)

CTS-1 - the first real mission
the legendary Sunita Williams (a media personality, nearly a year in space, flew to the Shuttles, Unions and 50 hours of VKD).
Peschieu (160 days in space, paid by France)
KESEDI (beginner)

[Lipchanin]

Quote: donavi49

the legendary Sunita Williams (a media personality, nearly a year in space, flew to the Shuttles, Unions and 50 hours of VKD).

And it’s scary
Therefore, it probably flies for so long, they’re not allowed to go to Earth

[donavi49]

She has 50 hours of VCD, only it deserves respect Yurchikhin, for example, has only 60. Among the active, she has the most, even taking into account men.

Peggy Witson has a world record for women in VCD, but she has already left the squad, and by age she is 60. She also has a record of being in space among women.

[Lipchanin]

Quote: donavi49

She has 50 hours of VKD

So I’m talking about this, they’re not allowed to land

only it deserves respect

I respect her more

[Lipchanin]

Peggy Witson's Women's World Record

And I did not speak about records.
And I like it more

[Evgeny Goncharov (smoogg)]

Typical patriot. Canon.

[cost]

The flight is scheduled for May 27.

They would sit better at home, would not violate the regime of self-isolation. It was still not enough to bring the cove to the ISS)))

[dima314]

So they don’t seem to have a dock on the program, or am I confusing something?

[Bshkaus]

But, something the age of astronauts raises questions

What's the problem?
Ivanishin is 51 years old, now in orbit.
Violin, 51 years old, 61/62 expedition, recently returned from orbit.
Skvortsov 54 years, 60/61 expedition
Kononenko 56 years old 58/59 expedition
Artemyev 50 years, 55 \ 56 expedition
Etc. etc.
It's not about age, but technologies that have stepped far ahead, allowing you to comfortably be in orbit, as well as the excellent health of crew members.
Or do you think that only 26 year old guys are sent to space? These times are long gone, training a professional astronaut is a very expensive pleasure.

[orionvitt]

Quote: Bshkaus

technologies that have gone far ahead, allowing you to comfortably be in orbit,

Nonsense. Under any technology, being in orbit cannot be comfortable for the human body. Man has not been created for space and weightlessness. Get used to it, yes, but in any case, the body is under tremendous stress. Both physical and psychological. And the fact that aged, so because specialists.

[Bshkaus]

Nonsense. Under no technology, being in orbit cannot be comfortable for the human body

And some 70 years ago, they sincerely believed that there can be no supersonic flight, that this is impossible))))
I agree and am not even going to argue that the cosmos is a hostile environment for man, but he is gradually mastering it, creating more and more comfortable conditions for himself:
The diamond weighed 18 tons. The world is already 130. ISS for 300. But this is not just kilograms, it is an increase in the living space in which more and more simulators are placed, etc. products that support human physiology. Many systems are now being automated, which also reduces the load from astronauts, and the lower the load, the higher the endurance and less exhaustion - as a result, an increase in flight duration with a decrease in negative consequences.

[dima314]

comfort has increased against the background of Mir or Salut, but the flight on the Union is exactly the same in terms of overloads. There, only the "avionics" were changed and so on the little things they finalized

[Bshkaus]

but the flight in the Union is exactly the same in terms of congestion

And which ones?
I want to explain to you: those 5-6G experienced by astronauts during regular flight go in the direction chest backwhen the astronaut is in a supine position, this is a completely different physiological effect than the same 5G for a pilot in a seated position and experiencing overload in the direction head-legs.
For reference, Viktor Kostin suffered extreme overload 26G! his colleagues reached 20-24G. For pilots, such overloads are unattainable in view of the sitting position, and today 10-12G for the pilot is a physiological barrier, beyond which so far no one can step.
So, overloads in the Union are not the worst factor. I repeat, I’m not talking about a revolutionary breakthrough in astronautics, I’m talking about small evolutions in all areas that make life much easier.

[Ros 56]

Well, living in general is unhealthy, they even die from such a life. And what do you want to sit on your ass and do nothing, I'm afraid to grunt even earlier.

[Lipchanin]

Quote: Bshkaus

Or do you think that only 26 year old guys are sent to space?

And they spent a few days in space

[Alex Nevs]

Let me emphasize, well, very expensive. Now such knowledge does not get! Do not teach as before. For business is such .... In any case, to such an age.

[Bshkaus]

Let me emphasize, well, very expensive. Now such knowledge does not get!

You will laugh, we have such a situation in the Russian Federation that there is a cosmonaut training center, there is a "cosmonaut" profession, and there are people who have received this profession. There is one small "BUT". We do not have official teachers who have the right to teach this profession. Here is such a bureaucratic curiosity, which from time to time causes heated debate at various conferences dedicated to astronautics)))).

[Ham]

Are they too old for such flights?

so we’ve already lived

[vostok68]

I don’t even know, + or - You put it? Okay, + put it, I hope I’m not much condemned here!

[Crimean partisan 1974]

someone condemned but I corrected

[vostok68]

Thank! All the same, I wish good luck to astronauts, space is not a place for war!

[Crimean partisan 1974]

All the same, I wish good luck to the astronauts ....... correctly. the right thing, they might also wish that at the start they said the word GO, one hundred percent will help

[Fantazer911]

So they will not feel sorry if God forbid what happens,
Do you also send to the store who do not mind? So here!

[whitebeard]

they have a rescue system there, like a working one))

[Prisoner]

If you can say, lived. In addition, they have an expiration date for the outcome.

[donavi49]

Well, this is a Boeing’s problem, as a result they were obliged to fly again - already on a full profile for their money, without astronauts. They messed up with potentially fatal software bugs - now they must demonstrate that this has been fixed.

Although Jim Brydenstein - initially said that there would be enough simulations, and the errors were insignificant, in the summer a flight with astronauts. But then the American system worked with all these 100500 independent commissions and dug up a bunch, as a result of Jim and a Boeing representative had to blush to justify themselves and promise to fix everything (including in NASA's program control mechanisms).

The mask was rather restrained, throwing him additional simulations and tests, so as not to give much to come forward. Well, after identifying 60+ critical problems in StarLiner, including 8 potentially fatal ones, there’s no reason to restrain them. Therefore, immediately vigorously appointed flight in May. Boeing at best for the new year will fly with astronauts.

[Bshkaus]

Somehow I fear for the life of American cosmonauts. Especially in light of recent events ...

And what kind of events make you fear for the life of American astronauts?

[askort154]

It will be a spaceship aboard which two American astronauts will go to the ISS. The flight is scheduled for May 27.

Incomprehensible solution. The aircraft carriers are being put on a joke, and at the same time, they decided to send a "package" from Earth to Space. It was still not enough to bring the virus to the ISS.
What a rush ?! They waited ten years, and half a year did not tolerate.
And how does Roscosmos look at it? We are waiting for the reaction.

[Blackmokona]

All cosmonauts and astronauts always and throughout history go through a long quarantine before being sent to space

[askort154]

All cosmonauts and astronauts always and throughout history go through a long quarantine before being sent to space.

The astronauts, yes. And their departure, served by hundreds of people, ranging from doctors, and the entire starting attendants. There are already hundreds of cases of infection by the doctors themselves.
Although, personally myself, I am ironic about this "bloated" topic. Where could this OVID-19 come from, on aircraft carriers and submarines located in
water spaces. Logically, if they calmly plan to launch a spacecraft into SPACE, to an international station during a period of "commotion" on Earth,
then this once again emphasizes that all this is the work of human hands.
From the usual seasonal flu, they organize a "show" of a world scale.
At the same time, someone loses, and someone “finds” a lot.
Therefore, my banter about the launch of an American ship was launched without
explanations, but with irony. But someone did not understand this.

[Blackmokona]

No one quarantines sailors before sailing

[Vadim237]

Rogozin on Twitter will again fall upon the Mask supposedly dumping on traffic - this is why nothing happens in Roscosmos and everything is slowed down.

[slipped]

Quote: Vadim237

Rogozin on Twitter will again fall on the Mask

No. Rogozin responded to an article about Musk's statement in the newspaper or to a lie. The head of Glavkosmos Dmitry Loskutov answered Musk personally: Oh c'mon Mr Lobbyist! and gave a table:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EVs96sNXsAAD0S0?format=jpg&name=large

Quote: Vadim237

they say dumping on transportation - that's why nothing works out in Roskosmos and everything slows down.

No. Oh said: "This is the whole cynicism and hypocrisy of our opponents. Instead of a fair fight in the space launch market, they lobby for sanctions against us and use dumping with impunity. And when they are asked about the real price of a launch service, they blush and instead of answering, try to cast a shadow on the wattle fence. ".

Let me remind you that since 2022, American companies and companies using American components in satellites are expressly forbidden to use Russian space technologies.

[Bshkaus]

Incomprehensible solution. The aircraft carriers are being put on a joke, and at the same time, they decided to send a "package" from Earth to Space. It was still not enough to bring the virus to the ISS.
What a rush ?! They waited ten years, and half a year did not tolerate.
And how does Roscosmos look at it? We are waiting for the reaction

Why are you writing about this here? The people on this site do not make decisions, all questions are addressed to Rogozin, our launches are also going according to plan, and no one has canceled preparations for the next.

[tihonmarine]

Quote: michael2000

Somehow I fear for the life of American cosmonauts. Especially in light of recent events ...

Well, what have you become so compassionate?

[Marconi41]

Quote: michael2000

Somehow I fear for the life of American cosmonauts. Especially in light of recent events ...

Maybe that’s why astronauts are so oversized. Young Americans are sorry.

[Alexey from Perm]

what is their life for you?

[KVU-NSVD]

Sooner or later this was to happen. Good luck.

[marchcat]

If only this flight was not "one way".

[KVU-NSVD]

Quote: marchcat

If only this flight was not "one way".

Would you wish this to two astronauts? Me not . Have a nice flight, and good luck with our programs.

[marchcat]

And I do not, let everything go as it should.

[U-58]

There is a good tradition in the industry (you can consider it a superstition) not to "croak" on the eve of launch ...

[Snail N9]

They have a ship ... it's .... innovatively so, looks ..... not?

[slipped]

Quote: Snail N9

They have a ship ... it's .... innovatively so, looks ..... not?

No.

[tihonmarine]

Quote: marchcat

If only this flight was not "one way".

Ukraine minus, sorry for their owners.

[The Siberian barber]

Whatever they say / write about the inferiority of the space programs of the Americans, they are slowly approaching the implementation of the new program of manned flights.
And what are our achievements?
... as taxi drivers, in Zhiguli inherited from his father ..
No, I forgot: renamed "Federation" to "Eagle"

[Lopatov]

Quote: The Siberian Barber

Whatever they say / write about the inferiority of the space programs of the Americans, they are slowly approaching the implementation of the new program of manned flights.

"We choose to go to the Moon" said by Kennedy on May 25, 1961
"That's one small step for man, one giant leap for mankind," said Armstrong on July 20, 1969

Between these phrases 8 years. Eight years old, Karl!
Between deciding to fly to the moon and the first person on it.
To the moon, Carl, not to orbit!

George W. Bush announced the start of the New Horizons program on January 14, 2004
16 years ago, Carl.
This is not "inferiority", this is DEGRADATION

Quote: The Siberian Barber

And what are our achievements?

And we flew. And they drove. Including Americans.

[Roman123567]

8 years Kennedy .. As a result, there is development ..
16 years of Bush .. there is also development ..
And with us .. yes .. father’s Lada .. They are still on the move, no doubt .. Is it only our achievement, and where is the development ..

[Lopatov]

Quote: Roman123567

8 years Kennedy .. As a result, there is development ..
16 years of Bush .. there is also development ..

Negative development is called degradation.

[Roman123567]

Well .. we’ll write it down, the flight to the moon is degradation ..
Yes, and Tesla opposite the Lada - too ..))

[Lopatov]

Quote: Roman123567

Well .. we’ll write it down, the flight to the moon is degradation ..

You just have to leave that fool to turn on ...

[Roman123567]

I did not include you .. you yourself wrote that this is a negative development ..))

[Lopatov]

Quote: Roman123567

I didn’t turn you on .. you betrayed it yourself ..

That is, you say that you really did not understand what I wrote about?
Do you happen to have Klitschko not in relatives? That one too ... with alternative thinking.


Okay, I’ll explain it as simple as possible for you.
When it takes 8 years to fly to the moon, and after some time 16 years is not enough to fly into orbit, this cannot be called development.
This is pure degradation.

Here, take, for example, you.
A month ago, 20 minutes ago, you understood the meaning of the phrase "approximation of the coordinate law by stepwise". Today you have been trying for an hour to understand the meaning of the phrase "novel, will you eat?", And is almost close to its realization.
If you call what is happening to yourself "development", then you will praise yourself very much.

So it came, or wait a week?

[Roman123567]

Keep pretending to be ..)))

8 years took to fly to the moon ..
16 years took to create a new ship ..
Now the question is - what have we created for all these years ??
By this logic - we returned to the time of the dinosaur .. and boast of daddy Lada ..

It’s possible to go even further .. half a century ago we launched AMSs on Mars and Venus, and now only in the ocean can we drop them .. And where are our Buranas ??

The reality is that the Americans are long, slow or slow .. but they created .. And they created something new .. We could have had a disk phone a hundred years ago, but if we invented the iotaphone yesterday, it’s still a development .. It’s exactly the same the same development they have with space ..
And as we were Lada, and remained ..

So it’s better to write about Klitschko and write the approximation, where it turns out at least funny .. not silly ..

[Lopatov]

Quote: Roman123567

8 years took to fly to the moon ..
16 years took to create a new ship ..

Degradation

Quote: Roman123567

Now the question is - what have we created for all these years ??

Upgraded.
Keeping manned astronautics. And even made money on it.
That for our relatively small investments in space is a huge achievement.

Quote: Roman123567

The reality is that the Americans are slow, long .. but created ..

You're lying.
Still not created.

Quote: Roman123567

And as we were Lada, and remained ..

Do you have a Lada. The engine changed on it, the box ...
The neighbor had a Ferrari, he fell in love with him, and now he has been collecting for Rolls-Royce for 16 years

You bring him to work every day, sadly thinking "but the neighbor is developing, unlike me"


Damn, yes, finally turn on the brain!

[Roman123567]

We only change the paint on the Lada, but the wiring .. and boast of the achievements of the Queen, who has not been with us for half a century ..
The fact that a neighbor fell in love with Ferrari is his problem .. the main thing is that he was able to gather strength and invent a new one ..
Every day we happily drove him to work .. and now we don’t want to accept the reality that he still did not sit idly by all these years, unlike us ..

You have already been poked in Buran with your nose, and in Venus .. and in the Angara / Federation ..
And you still rave about their degradation and try to joke about the brain ..

[Lopatov]

Quote: Roman123567

We only change the paint on the Lada, but the wiring ..

It's a lie. Or is Wikipedia too difficult for you?

Quote: Roman123567

The fact that a neighbor fell in love with Ferrari is his problem .. the main thing is that he was able to gather strength and invent a new one ..

And then invent again. And then again, And again ... And for that, they all took money from him ...
But still you have to carry it ...

Quote: Roman123567

Every day we joyfully brought him to work ..

Because he paid us. A lot of. "Developing"

Quote: Roman123567

You already in Buran poked a nose

We did not pull. And the Americans did not pull either, and were forced to take a step back to the capsule ships

[Roman123567]

Unlike you, I never lie ..
We use royal missiles, and we have not had any development of the bond for the last 30 years .. This is a fact, no matter how you dodge ..

They took money from a neighbor, but they weren’t given a mind, and they didn’t invent a new one, while continuing to use the Soviet Lada ..
And the neighbor during this time did not sit idly by, but you don’t like it .. because after all it would be better to carry him forever ..
Yes, I don’t argue .. and I wouldn’t mind having them fly on our ships endlessly .. But one thing is our Wishlist, another thing is reality ..

Yeah .. the Americans, having pierced yesterday with the Shuttles, like took a step back .. degraded to capsules ..
And we, flying for them for half a century - are developing like ... Oh, wei ..))

[Lopatov]

Quote: Roman123567

We use Royal missiles, and we have not had any development of the bond for the past 30 years.

And this is also a lie.
Are you a pathological liar? Can't you do otherwise?

Quote: Roman123567

Yeah .. the Americans, pierced yesterday with the Shuttles, like took a step back

They did not "pierce" they "did not pull"
Have you added "problems" with reading to the constant lies?

[ciujoilu]

Sorry, but you were the one who turned on the fool. The guy wrote everything clearly what he means by the word "degradation"

[askort154]

Shovels ...You just have to leave that fool to turn on.

Nevermind. This is a "professional" troll. Registered on March 27, made 170 throw-ins, received 2500 minuses for them. If the troll is not "fed", then he lives on the site, no more than a week. Then comes out under a new "nickname", and everything in a circle. For this he receives food, either from Navalny, or from Ukrainian proteges. I don't pay attention to such people (I don't feed them). I am more annoyed by "whiners" who are offended for life. People used to say about such people - "he is always offended that his neighbor is thicker and longer, although he has not seen him."

[Aviator_]

Thanks for the troll recognition criteria.

[Aviator_]

Well, there are two minuses - two trolls are already caught.

[eklmn]

“He registered on March 27, made 170 stuffing, got 2500 minuses for them.”
“Thank you for the troll recognition criteria.”
Cons - this is not a troll criterion. By the way, they, Minus, I have about 7 thousand.
Cons put those who do not want to be removed noodles from the ears, that's all! And the noodles on the site are full, as in the comments. If you don’t want noodles - learn English, find the original. do the source and conclusions yourself!

[Roman123567]

"I don't pay attention to those"
To such an extent that it’s already useful to study the registration date and count the number of likes ..))
Mom dear .. you don’t have the meaning of what is written, but how many likes can you get from this ??) Like journalists .. the louder the sensation about the crucified boy, the more views ..
I think for Navalny and Ukrainian proteges you will get a damn now .. so .. your day was a success ..))

[Catfish]

and what will the astronaut give you when he urinates again in the diaper.

[mole]

Quote: Spade

Quote: Roman123567

8 years Kennedy .. As a result, there is development ..
16 years of Bush .. there is also development ..

Negative development is called degradation.

But the phrase "negative development" has a different emotional coloring... But "degradation" is simple and understandable.

[dima314]

But what if the Americans broke an old Ford and flew 9 years on the way, is it more honorable?

[atalef]

Quote: Spade

Between these phrases 8 years. Eight years old, Karl!
Between deciding to fly to the moon and the first person on it.
To the moon, Carl, not to orbit!

from the day WWII ends to the flight of the first satellite - 12 years Carl

Quote: Spade

George W. Bush announced the start of the New Horizons program on January 14, 2004
16 years ago, Carl.
This is not "inferiority", this is DEGRADATION

hangar

August 3 1992 On the basis of the Decision of the Scientific and Technical Council of the Military Space Forces dated on the issue “Launch facilities: state and prospects of their modernization and development” and the Decree of the Government of the Russian Federation of September 15, 1992, a competition was announced for the design and creation of a space-launch complex (space missile complex) heavy class. The competition was attended by RSC Energia named after Academician S.P. Korolev, GKNPTs im. M.V. Khrunichev and the State Regional Center "Design Bureau named after Academician V. P. Makeev ", which submitted for consideration of a specially formed Interdepartmental Expert Commission several variants of launch vehicles

30 years old, Carl.
But there weren’t any Angaras - no.
And they fly, and more like Fly, that Boeing, that Musk.

Quote: Spade

this is degradation

Rogozin agreed - plus to you

[Lopatov]

Quote: atalef

30 years old, Karl

And for 30 years, Russia cannot send astronauts into orbit, I understand correctly?
And who then does it?

[Roman123567]

Pretend to be again ..))

Maybe .. But we kind of talked about Development !! Example with Lada what was ??
And where is our development ??

[Lopatov]

Quote: Roman123567

Maybe .. But we kind of talked about Development !! Example with Lada what was ??
And where is our development ??

I look, you still do not understand ...
Too complicated for you.
As promised, I'll wait a week.

[Roman123567]

But you understood perfectly, finally ..
Now you can at least live with this for the rest of your life ..))

[Lopatov]

Quote: Roman123567

But you understood perfectly, finally ..
Now you can at least live with this for the rest of your life ..))

A week has not passed yet.
Do you have a problem with this?
Teach?
Although not a fact that you understand.
Okay, I'll warn you when the week passes.

[Roman123567]

And I won’t wait, and once again I will quote the post of a person above ..
So that you still get the meaning of the concepts of Development and Degradation ..))

"30 years old, Karl.
But there weren’t any Angaras - no.
And they fly and how they fly, that Boeing, that Musk. "

[Lopatov]

Quote: Roman123567

So that you still get the meaning of the concepts of Development and Degradation ..))

The week has not passed yet.
I said that I would warn.

[atalef]

Quote: Spade

And for 30 years, Russia cannot send astronauts into orbit, I understand correctly?

it seems that the Americans could not do this.
They didn’t need it, there was a space cab, a little expensive, but it suited them, they mobilized all their forces for a further technological breakthrough, the development of private space companies and achieved their remarkable.
They concentrated on the main thing, to achieve overwhelming superiority, and here is the result.

Quote: Spade

And who then does it?

Everything was transported, the strategy of NASA and the USA was directed at this.

[Lopatov]

Quote: atalef

it seems that the Americans could not do this.

This is not an "impression", it is a fact

Quote: atalef

They did not need it

They didn’t need it and therefore they paid billions for it ......
Russia.
And they pay.
Reasonably ... You are so smart ...

Quote: atalef

Everything was transported, the strategy of NASA and the USA was directed at this.

Were you transported?
And how many astronauts could they send into space?
Zero?
That's bad luck

[atalef]

Quote: Spade

They didn’t need it and therefore they paid billions for it ......
Russia.
And they pay.
Reasonably ... You are so smart ...

only that which is more profitable is reasonable.
Maintain the entire state for independent launches, continue to maintain Shuttles, etc. etc., or focus on a new direction by sending all resources there.
It seems to me that the man holding the Rolls-Royce at home, just for Yu to get to work is somewhat strange.
Therefore, a reasonable approach - experiments and studies on the ISS - was carried out in full. so far, in order to save money - we went by taxi (and even on Lada) - but suddenly, op, Tesla appeared., and even with autopilot (as an example 0
And Gaster on Lada, I skipped all the loot, and as a result, so with them (Lada 0 and stayed.
This is for a better concept.
I would understand if for the received lard the owner of the Lada moved to Ferrari, but no - and stayed with the Lada

- I clearly explained?

Quote: Spade

Were you transported?
And how many astronauts could they send into space?
Zero?

All whom they wanted were sent.

Quote: Spade

That's bad luck

It will not be a task when there is no one to carry Roscosmos.

[Lopatov]

Quote: atalef

only that which is more profitable is reasonable.

Is it more profitable to pay others instead of doing it yourself easily and simply?

Quote: atalef

All whom they wanted were sent.

That is, not a single one so far.
They do not want to? And reluctantly pay Russia?
Something you already began to broadcast nonsense

Quote: atalef

It will not be a task when there is no one to carry Roscosmos.

When?
They have been announcing the Great Peramog for four years already. And about the cessation of payments to the enemy Roscosmos.

What, in fact, is the question.
DEGRADATION

[atalef]

Quote: Spade

Is it more profitable to pay others instead of doing it yourself easily and simply?

Yes, in order to get butter for a sandwich, it is not at all necessary to keep a cow and an oil mill - just go to the store and buy

Quote: Spade

That is, not a single one so far.
They do not want to? And reluctantly pay Russia?

no, they want and pay Russia, for now.
Since it’s expensive to maintain your cow, it’s passionate and left alone for the whole farm.
It’s expensive, cheaper to buy in a store, without bothering what the cost price of the oil is from the manufacturer and whether he invests in modernizing and replacing the livestock.

Quote: Spade

Something you already began to broadcast nonsense

Do you have a problem reading comprehension?
Nasa has already been replaced by livestock and the farm has been modernized and the costs are tiny. The cow is milked 4 times a day and gives cream instead of milk.
As you understand it, for the sake of simplicity of understanding, maybe you somehow hardly catch the train of thought

Quote: Spade

When?

Already this year, and the next last joint flights.

Quote: Spade

They have been announcing the Great Peramog for four years already. And about the cessation of payments to the enemy Roscosmos.

[Lopatov]

Quote: atalef

Yes, in order to get butter for a sandwich, it is not at all necessary to keep a cow and an oil mill - just go to the store and buy

Do you generally read articles under which you post?
It just says that with a cow and an oil mill, Americans are finally going to stop going to the store.
If they can, of course, end their sixteen-year attempts to launch an oil mill.

Quote: atalef

Do you have a problem reading comprehension?

Of course the problem.
I wrote about this. You have already started broadcasting nonsense. The fact that the Americans simply had no desire to send their astronauts into orbit, because they scored on the development of space technology for this. But at the same time they continued to pay huge money to Russia.

You already understand your statements.
If they needed it, why were they calving for 16 years?
If they didn’t need it, then why did they pay Russia?

Quote: atalef

Already this year, and the next last joint flights.

In 2014, Charles Bolden vowed that this blessed time, when astronauts would be sent into space only from the United States, would come in 2017.
What year in the yard to remind?

[Fikys]

Quote: atalef

It will not be a task when there is no one to carry Roscosmos.

We carry - it’s bad, we don’t carry it - it’s also bad :)) You would have decided which is better;)

[Fikys]

Quote: atalef

from the day WWII ends to the flight of the first satellite - 12 years Carl

Are you saying that in the USSR the pace of scientific and technological progress was higher than in the Russian Federation? So with this, IMHO, no one argues, a universally recognized fact. Captain obvious?

[Blackmokona]

So look how much money has been allocated here and there.

[Lopatov]

Quote: BlackMokona

So look how much money has been allocated here and there.

Money is generally a separate conversation ...
As an agency with the world's largest annual budget, I managed to fall in love with the manned space program .... I can’t even imagine

[Blackmokona]

The government simply did not allocate money for manned space. The agency is not free to choose the program at the request of its left heel, and everything in Congress approves.
They knocked out money on a new ship only in 2014, and then in the first year, Congress transferred all this money to another program. And thus, SpaceX only in 2015 began to receive money for the development of a new ship.

[Lopatov]

Quote: BlackMokona

It’s just that the government did not allocate money for manned space

Yeah ...
Roscosmos drove them for free 8)))

[Blackmokona]

It went on other programs.
For example, now they were buying seats from Boeing in the Unions, which received them for debts at sea launch.
And thus, everything went through the ISS or other fun contracts.
And the program for the development of ships and delivery on them was seams

[Lopatov]

Quote: BlackMokona

It went on other programs.

It was money for a manned space program.

[Blackmokona]

Well then, I’ll put it differently. Money for the development of the Shuttle replacement began to be allocated only in 2015. Prior to that, Congress sent one way or another to yo

[Venya Selnikov]

Roscosmos drove not for free, of course.
But this is the case - every year you are given a "pretty penny" for delivery. This is a target article, it is tied to international agreements, is agreed upon by the Senate commission, like any expenses. And what you are allotted for the purchase of seats - NASA has no right to spend on anything else. And the situation is simple - at first the annual penny was small, and the relationship is much better, but the penny grows every year, and relations with us deteriorate, and they reviewed their previous positions, decided to get rid of such already unprofitable dependencies, and decided to start a new program on their own delivery.
The fact that they didn’t catch on (and didn’t particularly allocate money) before is of course the trouble of their bureaucracy. But not critical. Unlike us, they do not make a fetish from manned space exploration when, after the closure of Apollo and before the Shuttle launch, they could not fly on anything for several years - no one said that the USA had forgotten how to manned space exploration ... and we, by the way, then such nonsense was not said about them.

[atalef]

Quote: Spade

Money is generally a separate conversation ...

why separate?
you don’t count other people's money, you judge by achievements.
By the way, how much Roscosmos received money from the USA both for engines and for transportation of astronauts 7
So how ?

[Lopatov]

Quote: atalef

why separate?

Because Americans don’t want to dunk in guano

Quote: atalef

By the way, how much Roscosmos received money from the USA both for engines and for transportation of astronauts 7

Mooooooo.
It seems that the American authorities are working for Russia ...
Instead of what they can easily create and organize themselves, they pay the enemy.


There is a fierce assault. American patriots are simply obliged to lustrate American officials by pouring them with green stuff and throwing them in garbage cans ...

[tihonmarine]

Quote: The Siberian Barber

Whatever they say / write about the inferiority of the space programs of the Americans, they are slowly approaching the implementation of the new program of manned flights.

You are right on "Zhiguli" you do not fly for a long time, space is a colossal cost of trillions of dollars, and then "Karona-19" knocked down, then everyone would survive, and not engage in spaceflight.

[Narak-zempo]

We know how to survive clearly better than them, and even from catastrophes to receive such a strong impetus for development. In the summer and fall of the forty-first, it also seemed that everything had arrived, and you look, less than 20 years later Gagarin flew.

[Terenin]

Well, of course, about them

Quote: The Siberian Barber

Whatever they say / write about the inferiority of the space programs of the Americans, they are slowly approaching the implementation of the new program of manned flights.

Although I read the posts, and no one wrote this
but, in Russia, by itself

Quote: The Siberian Barber

... as taxi drivers, in Zhiguli inherited from his father

what are some too cosmic comparisons between industries ...?
And, there will be no conclusion now that only very democratic and civilized countries can master space and only under the supervision of the United States ...
By the way, I inherited the Zhiguli from my father. Good car. Thanks to him and her, huge!

[Roman123567]

Good car, yes .. and the Union is good !!
Thanks to our fathers and grandfathers ..

[askort154]

Siberian barber ....And what are our achievements?

And what would be your achievements in your beloved USA now, if
they would have collapsed, similar to the USSR, and from the 51st state, would there be only one left with Washington ?! What position would they be in now?

[Greenwood]

If yes, if only ... They have a political system built in such a way that it functions without problems under any president, whatever it may be. What is the point of fantasizing about what they would have if it was like ours ?! They have the mind to prevent collapse. And in the 20th century alone, we had two regime changes and a bunch of crises.

[dima314]

honestly looking at the last years of the functioning of the amer system, I am not enthusiastic. The Chinese confidently bend them and the process is inevitable. As for Amer’s condoms of recent years, there’s nothing to be proud of.

[atalef]

Quote: askort154

And what would be your achievements in your beloved USA now, if
they would have collapsed, similar to the USSR,

30 years have passed.
Dough was not just the sea, heaps.

Quote: askort154

if

Quote: askort154

What position would they be in now?

strange people always blame for something - then the revolution, then WWII, then the collapse of the USSR.
not tired?

[slipped]

Quote: Siberian barber

Whatever they say / write about the inferiority of the space programs of the Americans, they are slowly approaching the implementation of the new program of manned flights.
What achievements do we have? "

So in the title it is written - over the course of these 10 years, I have been carrying all the manned astronautics into space and back. During this time, the ship was significantly modernized twice, and the fast delivery of astronauts and astronauts to the station was accomplished. We have equipped the cosmonaut training center with new simulators, we are engaged in training astronauts of the new newly created space agencies of other countries. We are creating a new space technology.

[sanik2020]

The Americans should be afraid, something for us. Just when everyone laughed at Musk and his returning rocket, he worked and brought it to mind. The main thing for them is independence from Russia in space, therefore they will launch and fly. I would like something and Roskosmos also stubbornly set a goal and achieved it and not justified.

[dima314]

What is independence from Russia? They have these flights to the ISS to one place! Why fly there and what they do and what a profit so exactly complete dregs! Roscosmos already peeps to carry amers for their money and even has no thoughts to refuse! With joy and pride driven!

[rotmistr60]

Here is May 27 and see. Nine years on a pause, the period is not small. Russia rescued, and NASA congratulated its returning astronauts did not even mention ours, with whom they worked in orbit and together returned to Earth.

[Mountain shooter]

Arrogance overwhelms the "shining hail" ... God forbid their astronauts fly where they need to without accidents and failures ...
I do not wish them harm ... a very complex and dangerous technique ...

[tihonmarine]

Quote: rotmistr60

NASA congratulated its returning astronauts for not even mentioning ours, with whom they worked in orbit and returned to Earth together.

How many Christ fed everyone remembers, but how much he thanked no one remembers.

[mole]

And how many did Christ feed? He asked his wife, she also does not know.

[Aviator_]

Ostap Bender, in a dispute with priests, called the figure 5000 ("Golden Calf"). I have no primary source, only Ilf and Petrov.

[tihonmarine]

Quote: Mole

And how many did Christ feed? He asked his wife, she also does not know.

The wife should not know. The first miracle - “Saturation of 5000 people” - is the only miracle (except for the resurrection) that is present in all four canonical Gospels (Matthew 14: 13-21, Mark 6: 31-44, Luke 9: 10-17 and John 6: 5-15). This miracle is also known under the name: "The miracle of five loaves and two fish."

[mole]

Well I will know. At the same time, I will educate my wife.

[U-58]

It remains to wish the American colleagues a successful start, "soft flight" and a safe return to their native Earth.
It would be very strange if a great technological power did not create a cosmic scoop for itself.

[dima314]

Yeah! A very big achievement to send astronauts into orbit 60 years after the flight of Gagarin! True, they do not really need it, but the technology of amers in recent decades has flourished only in the banking and military sectors. China is developing fastest and has success and will catch up and overtake everyone.

[U-58]

The achievement is great.
After the Aollon they had no ship. And creating a new one is not easy.
Compare with the history of "Federation of the Eagle"

[zlinn]

sorry. But what about the shuttle?

[U-58]

Sorry, but what about Buran ?.
I am writing about what I am writing. And what do you need the Shuttle that took off dozens of times?
Frolic about the Energy-Buran, which seemed to be, but it seems that they are not ...

[Al Asad]

Good luck to them.
Space must be out of politics.

[Zoldat_A]

Quote: Al Asad

Space must be out of politics.

Try to explain this to America. Let's see how it turns out ...

[onix757]

Try to explain this to America. Let's see how it goes ..

They listen to those who are able to give symmetrical answers to challenges both in the economy and in the technological and military spheres. Otherwise, the situation will resemble a scene from a pug in fable and an elephant.

[Zoldat_A]

Quote: onix757

They listen to those who are able to give symmetrical answers to challenges both in the economy and in the technological and military spheres.

Trump declared the Moon to be American. Should we "symmetrically" declare Mars to be Russian?

[dima314]

yeah ... only if the Americans fly there, then Trump will not be there, and if someone else flies to the moon, they won’t ask amers. Or will Trump sue those who flew to the Moon without his consent?)

[Zoldat_A]

Quote: dima314

Trump will sue the Hague on flew to the moon without his consent?)

Sanctions will announce.

[Narak-zempo]

Quote: onix757

Listen to those who are able to give symmetrical answers to calls

Russia has always been strong precisely with asymmetric responses, which allowed it to defeat more materially stronger opponents.

[eklmn]

“Russia has always been strong precisely with asymmetric responses, which allowed us to defeat more materially stronger opponents.”
NASA News:
“NASA said it plans to announce the winner of the Manned Lunar Landing Module at the end of April.”
“The Mars rover 2020, Perseverance, is continuing preparations at the Kennedy Space Center for launch in July 2020, despite the coronavirus pandemic.”
I would like to see a symmetrical / asymmetric response to NASA actions. It seems to me that Russia is weak to respond with action only if Rogozin says or writes something ...

[Narak-zempo]

Quote: eklmn

I would like to see a symmetric / asymmetric response to NASA actions

Google TEM (transport and energy module).
Development is in full swing.

[tihonmarine]

Quote: Al Asad

Space must be out of politics.

This is what Trump recently announced.

[Venya Selnikov]

Space owes nothing to anyone.
And state relations cannot be without politics, this is an oxymoron.
So space relations between state space agencies will always take into account (and reflect in their activities) the policies of their states.
So it was, is and will be, as long as there is the very concept of the state.

[rocket757]

Good luck to the brave astronauts, let them have everything regularly!

[Hourly]

It will be a spaceship aboard which two American astronauts will go to the ISS. The flight is scheduled for May 27.

Suicide bombers ... Although humanly, I wish them good luck!

[16329]

Given the results of the previous series of tests of the spacecraft, including automatic flight to the ISS, etc., it should be noted that these astronauts are brave guys
Let's see if it will be able to withstand the announced launch date

[dima314]

I hardly believe the date ... the Americans are so sick with the crown and die quickly that in 1.5 months there are many things that can change and I wouldn’t promise a deadline.

[Alecsandr]

Good luck to the brave American astronauts! It is high time. Cosmos should be for all of mankind, in spite of all sorts of tricks of politicians on Earth.

[Chaldon48]

I do not wish death to the American astronauts, but I can hardly believe in a successful outcome

[Vasily Ponomarev]

Quote: Teberii

They were like cucumbers 10 years ago. And now, apparently, they are the only volunteers. So let them succeed, because they take risks.

I suggest you read this here https://www.space.com/nasa-receives-over-12000-astronaut-applications-for-artemis-generation.html

[Vasily Ponomarev]

Quote: donavi49

Well, this is a Boeing’s problem, as a result they were obliged to fly again - already on a full profile for their money, without astronauts. They messed up with potentially fatal software bugs - now they must demonstrate that this has been fixed.

Although Jim Brydenstein - initially said that there would be enough simulations, and the errors were insignificant, in the summer a flight with astronauts. But then the American system worked with all these 100500 independent commissions and dug up a bunch, as a result of Jim and a Boeing representative had to blush to justify themselves and promise to fix everything (including in NASA's program control mechanisms).

The mask was rather restrained, throwing him additional simulations and tests, so as not to give much to come forward. Well, after identifying 60+ critical problems in StarLiner, including 8 potentially fatal ones, there’s no reason to restrain them. Therefore, immediately vigorously appointed flight in May. Boeing at best for the new year will fly with astronauts.

Mask himself was not averse to conducting additional tests of the ship, so your statement that it was delayed was not entirely correct

[Blackmokona]

Even as they restrained. For example, before a drone test, the ship was in a hangar for half a year, after passing all the tests and waiting for permission from NASA, now it has also been pickled for several months and has been waiting.
Yes, and an independent audit by NASA revealed direct breaches of the contract in favor of Boeing.
Etc

[JonnyT]

They shove Boeing with its buggy in every way. What can you do - godmother lobbyists

[Vasily Ponomarev]

> after the Columbia disaster
what kind of disaster?
> However, Boeing still announced that they are going to carry out a manned flight "in the near future"
after the second "successful" drone has passed
> that the US is preparing to send a manned spacecraft into space after almost 10 years
yes, for a long time, the last time this happened in the 70s, then the shuttle had to wait for about 8 years, if I'm not mistaken

[Zoldat_A]

Quote: Vasily Ponomarev

> after the Columbia disaster
what kind of disaster?

The crash of the shuttle Columbia occurred on February 1, 2003, shortly before the end of its 28th flight (mission STS-107).

Quote: Vasily Ponomarev

yes, for a long time, the last time this happened in the 70s, then the shuttle had to wait for about 8 years, if I'm not mistaken

The Challenger shuttle crashed on January 28, 1986, when the Challenger space shuttle at the very beginning of the STS-51L mission collapsed as a result of the explosion of an external fuel tank at the 73rd second of the flight, which led to the death of all 7 crew members.
In the 70s, the Shuttles did not fall.

Who does not remember - for at least Wikipedia is.

[Vasily Ponomarev]

Quote: Snail N9

They have a ship ... it's .... innovatively so, looks ..... not?

no, the old dragon, which is already under 10 years old, is not too different

[Blackmokona]

Here the differences between Dragon 2 and Dragon 1 are better visible.

[Pvi1206]

the road will be overpowered ...

[Vasily Ponomarev]

Quote: BlackMokona

Here the differences between Dragon 2 and Dragon 1 are better visible.

yes it’s better, in principle, the basis is still the same

[Charik]

they also want to bring the cove into space so that their sleepwalkers will not let go

[sabakina]

48-year-old Bob Benken and 52-year-old Dag Hurley

Not too old for your first flight?

[Narak-zempo]

Quote: sabakina

Not too old for your first flight?

Just right.
If younger, then pay the family breadwinner.
But these pre-pensioners, on the contrary, will not be able to pay a pension.

[Mayak-SH-7]

Without politoty, as the haters love this, I wish them good luck!

[Vasily Ponomarev]

Quote: Spade

Quote: The Siberian Barber

Whatever they say / write about the inferiority of the space programs of the Americans, they are slowly approaching the implementation of the new program of manned flights.

"We choose to go to the Moon" said by Kennedy on May 25, 1961
"That's one small step for man, one giant leap for mankind," said Armstrong on July 20, 1969

Between these phrases 8 years. Eight years old, Karl!
Between deciding to fly to the moon and the first person on it.
To the moon, Carl, not to orbit!

George W. Bush announced the start of the New Horizons program on January 14, 2004
16 years ago, Carl.
This is not "inferiority", this is DEGRADATION

Quote: The Siberian Barber

And what are our achievements?

And we flew. And they drove. Including Americans.

16 years ago, Karl.nu if you don’t see the difference between the lunar race and the next lunar program, then yes, it’s just HORROR, you can clearly see how they are in a hurry, they are throwing all their energy into it, so after the 2008 crisis they simply take and close the program, which already (about HORROR) is not like 10 years

[Lopatov]

Quote: Vasily Ponomarev

16 years ago, Karl.nu if you don’t see the difference between the lunar race and the next lunar program, then yes, it’s just HORROR, you can clearly see how they are in a hurry, they are throwing all their energy into it, so after the 2008 crisis they simply take and close the program, which already (about HORROR) is not like 10 years

I see a huge difference.
Between the Moon Race and the simple planned replacement of the Shuttles with capsule ships.

For them, actually making a huge step backwards has turned out to be an impossible task for 16 years. And for 9.5 years they’ve been sitting at all without manned astronautics. I have to go to bow to the Russians. To those they portray like this:

[Keeping]

Rogozin ordered a large-scale model Falcon9 and sticks needles into it ....

[Snail N9]

Do not ... stick needles is not tightly knit .... He and Gundyaev, betrayed him (Falcon 9) secretly, anathema ...

[shahor]

Quote: Keeping

sticks needles into it ....

No, drill holes.

[Keeping]

I wanted to write about holes from a small drill, but I was afraid that not everyone would understand. Like holes - this is only our prerogative)))

[Sinner]

Hopefully, Musk has provided for a fired rescue capsule in which case ...

[donavi49]

There is another system, not the mast, but the engines in the ship. They did a separate flight test at the insistence of NASA.

[slipped]

Quote: donavi49

There is another system, not the mast, but the engines in the ship. They did a separate flight test at the insistence of NASA.

Weakly it was at first to begin to blow up a step, and then to shoot the ship. Scared. Let's go to the "safe" scenario. Let me remind you that in the recent accident of the Union, the destruction of the second stage initially began, it became almost across the stream, and only then the launch of the SAS of the ship followed.

[slipped]

the year before last accident of the Union, I apologize

[Ilya098]

Good luck to the astronauts, I hope this will not happen.

[Blackmokona]

The problem that caused the explosion was detected and fixed. And even if the astronauts were not corrected, it still would not threaten. Since the problem appeared after a successful flight into space.

[Vadim237]

This problem was associated with the material and the design of the valve - the fuel supply valve redid the material changed.

[slipped]

Quote: BlackMokona

Since the problem appeared after a successful flight into space.

This problem manifested itself when testing the engines that are used in the SAS ship. In the event of an accident, a ship with astronauts would simply explode.

[Blackmokona]

When testing SAS engines after flying into space, hundreds of tests of SAS engines before flying into space were successful

[slipped]

Quote: BlackMokona

When testing SAS engines after flying into space, hundreds of tests of SAS engines before flying into space were successful

and then the bang exploded, do you deny the explosion?

[Blackmokona]

After flying into space, as I have already indicated

[slipped]

Quote: BlackMokona

After flying into space, as I have already indicated

Of course, but you "close your eyes" that the reentry vehicle is reusable and it was he who was supposed to go on the next flight with the astronauts. And in the event of an emergency, there would be broads.

[Blackmokona]

No, for NASA, every flight on a new device.

[slipped]

Quote: BlackMokona

No, for NASA, every flight on a new device.

and tourists were looking for old, I see ... they don’t mind

[Blackmokona]

Why are you not sorry? The problem, as you see, has been clarified on Earth, and the situation has been fixed long before the flights of tourists.
No one just put the old ship into the hangar before the arrival of tourists, and then they conducted tests with it and studied the consequences of the flight and found

[slipped]

Quote: BlackMokona

Why are you not sorry? The problem, as you see, has been clarified on Earth, and the situation has been fixed long before the flights of tourists.

clarified by the explosion of VA, fixed ... well, probably :)

Quote: BlackMokona

No one just put the old ship into the hangar before the arrival of tourists, and then they conducted tests with it and studied the consequences of the flight and found

Yeah, when it exploded. Clear.

[Blackmokona]

1) Fixed, the corresponding issue was examined by NASA and FSA, who controlled the investigation process
2) It exploded on a test, i.e. test work was carried out with it. No one was preparing for launch, at that moment no tourists were even announced for him

[slipped]

Quote: BlackMokona

1) Fixed, the corresponding issue was examined by NASA and FSA, who controlled the investigation process

We'll see.

Quote: BlackMokona

2) It exploded on a test, i.e. test work was carried out with it. No one was preparing for launch, at that moment no tourists were even announced for him

"They're disposable, Karl!"

[Guards turn]

He will not take off.

[yfast]

When a lot of free money falls from the branches and there is no competition, then degradation occurs. And so it goes.

[Vasily Ponomarev]

Quote: Spade

Quote: Vasily Ponomarev

16 years ago, Karl.nu if you don’t see the difference between the lunar race and the next lunar program, then yes, it’s just HORROR, you can clearly see how they are in a hurry, they are throwing all their energy into it, so after the 2008 crisis they simply take and close the program, which already (about HORROR) is not like 10 years

I see a huge difference.
Between the Moon Race and the simple planned replacement of the Shuttles with capsule ships.

For them, actually making a huge step backwards has turned out to be an impossible task for 16 years. And for 9.5 years they’ve been sitting at all without manned astronautics. I have to go to bow to the Russians. To those they portray like this:

maybe I don’t understand something, can you explain to me how much you spent on the Apollo program and on the "commercial" dragon2
> Taking an actually huge step back for them turned out to be an impossible task for 16 years already tormenting the topic
How does this correspond to your own proposal above? (Between the "Moon Race" and the simple planned replacement of "Shuttles" with "capsule ships".) Have you got anything wrong there? 16 years toiling with dragon2?
> it turned out to be an impossible task for them so far
what is impossible to create a commercial ship? write more

[mole]

Good luck to the astronauts!

[Mentat]

The flight is scheduled for May 27.

The reports say that SpaceX was obliged by the SpaceX company Ilona Mask to bring US astronauts into orbit. She will use the Falcon9 rocket to send the SpaceX Crew Dragon spacecraft to the ISS.

What May 27 ?? They recently only Starship exploded at the start. Do they want to put people in that?

[Infinity]

You have confused the finished spacecraft Dragon 2, which already in early March 2019 made an unmanned test flight to the ISS as part of the DM-1 mission and whose CAC was tested in January, which flies on May 27 with people, with the project at the low stage of readiness Starship.

[zlinn]

what does Starship have to do with the dragon that is about to fly?

[Mentat]

Quote: Infinity

You have confused the finished spacecraft Dragon 2, which already in early March 2019 made an unmanned test flight to the ISS as part of the DM-1 mission and whose CAC was tested in January, which flies on May 27 with people, with the project at the low stage of readiness Starship.

In fact, this is not done. In order to allow people to fly, a test program must be passed, and not a single “test flight”.
Repeated accidents and rocket explosions were supposed to lengthen the trial period, and not to shorten.

[Infinity]

In fact, there were a large number of tests of various systems and the apparatus as a whole, the results of each of them were analyzed at NASA. And the test space flight was, although extremely important, but by no means the only one, in it they tested the operation of systems directly in space after multiple tests on Earth and in imitation of the space environment. And yes, this is a completely normal practice, everything is exactly the same with “Eagle” (“Federation”) is planned. By the way, the launch in May will also be a test one (DM-2), so only two astronauts fly, not four.

Quote: Mentat

Repeated accidents and rocket explosions.

What pH explosions do you mean? The last time the explosion (or rather fire) of the Falcon 9 rocket occurred on the launch pad in September 2016. After - not a single accident for more than 50 launches (unsuccessful attempts to return a stage or a cowl are from another series and are not considered to be accidents because the AE is in a given orbit, the rest is already of secondary importance). And the launch vehicle accident (namely, launch vehicle, not spacecraft!) Directly in flight occurred in 2015 (the launch of the Dragon truck).
Or do you mean by the explosion of "rockets" KK itself? Well then, where did you find the "numerous explosions"? There was only one KK explosion, in April 2019. Yes, there were some technical difficulties before (but not explosions), and NASA often didn't like something, but this is standard work on a complex technical product.
But this phrase of yours is generally beyond the limits of human logic:

Quote: Mentat

Repeated accidents and rocket explosions were supposed to lengthen the trial period, and not to shorten.

And where was he reduced? On the contrary, the first launch was not expected in 2019, but much earlier, like the first flight with people. And the same accident in April 2019 postponed the date of the first manned launch by almost a year. Where are the abbreviations?

And once again, just in case, Starship is a completely different project!

[Ros 56]

What time can I expect a message on May 27?

[dima314]

Until May 27, we still have to live ... Time is not easy ...

[slipped]

Meanwhile, the crew of the 15st expedition returned from space yesterday on the Soyuz MS-61 TPK:

[qobnvmog]

Success them. Reusable ship, reusable rocket, this is the future

[Old26]

Quote: askort154

The astronauts, yes. And their departure, served by hundreds of people, ranging from doctors, and the entire starting service

But nobody serves anything at our place, is everything probably happening by magic? Everything is the same as ours. Including and preflight quarantine

[Mentat]

Quote: Infinity

But this phrase of yours is generally beyond the limits of human logic:
Quote: Mentat
Repeated accidents and rocket explosions were supposed to lengthen the trial period, and not to shorten.
And where was he reduced? On the contrary, the first launch was not expected in 2019, but much earlier, like the first flight with people. And the same accident in April 2019 postponed the date of the first manned launch by almost a year. Where are the abbreviations?

And once again, just in case, Starship is a completely different project!

This is one and the same manufacturer. If this manufacturer has accidents, then the test program for any manned products from this manufacturer should be more meticulous. But you pretend like you don't understand it.

Therefore, he wrote that regarding what should be in such a situation, the program has been reduced to please essentially the PR of the US space industry.

An example for you is a Boeing. Critical vulnerabilities were revealed in flight management software that appeared due to negligence and saving on vital components of the code without proper verification. It turned out that the errors of this system were present on other models of the company's aircraft. Therefore, the process of resuming flights of aircraft using this version of the software subsystem is postponed for a very long time. This is “within the limits of human logic,” and what you write is just an attempt to present gray as white.

[Infinity]

Where was the cut? What are you talking about? The dates were constantly shifted to the future, Dragon 2 should have flown a long time ago, as it were. If NASA wanted to "cut the program", it would have given the go-ahead for launch sometime in 2017. But in reality it was quite the opposite. And the ship passed all the tests. For example, after the explosion in April 2019, the company and the elimination of the vulnerability found, bench tests were again carried out, and after testing the SAS directly in flight (January of this year).

On the Starship at NASA, I repeat, do not care from a high hill. Because, I repeat again, the project on very low readiness stages (whatever some would tell us), moreover a completely different type, a different design, it can't even be called a ship yet. It's essentially a propulsion test bench, like the Grasshopper. NASA has technical documentation and all the data on Dragon 2 and Falcon 9, they don't care about this "stand". At the same time, SpaceX has worked out the statistics of accident-free flights for the Falcon 9 carrier, and on Dragon (on its basis, Dragon 2 was created) too.

[Vasily Ponomarev]

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> after the Columbia disaster
what kind of disaster?

The crash of the shuttle Columbia occurred on February 1, 2003, shortly before the end of its 28th flight (mission STS-107).

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yes, for a long time, the last time this happened in the 70s, then the shuttle had to wait for about 8 years, if I'm not mistaken

The Challenger shuttle crashed on January 28, 1986, when the Challenger space shuttle at the very beginning of the STS-51L mission collapsed as a result of the explosion of an external fuel tank at the 73rd second of the flight, which led to the death of all 7 crew members.
In the 70s, the Shuttles did not fall.

Who does not remember - for at least Wikipedia is.

phenomenally, write a comment that makes less sense than ... I don’t even know what
> The crash of the shuttle Columbia occurred on February 1, 2003
damn you seriously, I kind of wrote about bloopers
> In the 70s, Shuttles did not fall.
facepalm, I tell you about the time between Apollo and the shuttle, you tell me ... and this person also writes "Who does not remember - for at least Wikipedia is there"
Here is how Wikipedia writes ". Before the first launch of this shuttle in 1981, NASA had not put astronauts into orbit for 6 years." - Yes, I wrote from memory about 8 years, I was mistaken

[lvov_aleksey]

flag in their hands, if only not a challenge !!!

[da Vinci]

I do not understand: the title of the article: "A break of almost 10 years: The date of sending the US astronauts into space on an American spacecraft has been announced." Quote from the article: "Recall that the American manned space program was put on a long hiatus after the disaster with" Columbia "in 2003 and a number of related factors." So 10 or 17?

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I do not understand: the title of the article: "A break of almost 10 years: The date of sending the US astronauts into space on an American spacecraft has been announced." Quote from the article: "Recall that the American manned space program was put on a long hiatus after the disaster with" Columbia "in 2003 and a number of related factors." So 10 or 17?

What used to be an egg or chicken? Since 2003, the delivery of astronauts and astronauts to the main crews of expeditions to the ISS was stopped. The shuttles themselves, ess, but with their crews then still flew under the ISS retrofit program with modules and equipment.

[Engineer Schukin]

Teach the materiel and do not distribute notions.
Until 2009, STS delivered and returned astronauts.

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Teach the materiel and do not distribute notions.
Until 2009, STS delivered and returned astronauts.

I expressed myself a little incorrectly above - yes, I see. The replacement of some members in the main crews was carried out until 2010. I wanted to say about the fact that the main crew of the station was originally planned, except for the first flight to it, to deliver only shuttles. But since 2003, Soyuz-MS began to deal with this, is it clear? This, incidentally, led to the fact that its early name - ISS "Alpha" (left over from the "Freed" project) quietly died out in favor of the neutral - ISS.

[ALEX_SHTURMAN]

God grant, I sincerely wish the Astronauts to get safe and sound, I have never been a fan of SpaceX and especially America, but sensible people understand that sooner or later this would have happened anyway. God forbid, this will affect staffing decisions and speeding up work on a new ship in our RosKosmos, it’s not the Patriots and Propaganda Batutovichs who are needed there, but real Engineers who are keen on Space, fans of their craft. So as not to chat here and there, but to show the result!

[Fidel]

And they will also land on Mars and capture Alpha Centauri)))) And all on May 27 at exactly 20:32. Coconut and Elon Musk will make Omerica "Velika" again!
AND! I almost forgot. AND HALIVUUUUD !!!))))

[VLADIMIR VLADIVOSTOK]

The coronavirus was still missing in orbit!

[Cycle boss]

Flight to the moon, to Mars? Decided to stake a planet? Another Columbiad?