Troopers, partisans and antifreeze. Airborne transport gliders of the Red Army

Troopers, partisans and antifreeze. Airborne transport gliders of the Red Army
Glider A-7 design O.K. Antonova - one of the main machines of its class. Photo Airwar.ru


During the Second World War, a number of countries were armed with transport and landing gliders. Such equipment, distinguished by cheapness and simplicity of production and operation, could transport people and goods, providing logistics or landing. The Red Army had several types of gliders with different characteristics and quite actively used them almost throughout the war.

History of development


In the twenties of the last century glider sport gained popularity in our country, then the study of the military use of gliders began. However, real work on airborne transport gliders did not start until 1930. The first period of development continued until the mid-thirties and did not produce any particular results. Early transport gliders were not massive and were not used by the army.

Work on this topic was resumed at the end of the decade, the reason for this was foreign development. In 1939, Osoaviahim announced his competition for the development of a glider, and in 1940, the recently created Directorate for the Production of Airborne Transport Gliders from the People’s Commissariat aviation industry.

Two design teams took part in two competitions. Several projects were awarded prizes and allowed to build experimental equipment. The most successful in all respects was the Glider Front-8 airframe designed by O.K. Antonova. In the future, this project was improved, and the resulting A-7 glider went into series. Other projects have not advanced beyond prototype testing.


The design of the A-7 was characterized by maximum simplicity and manufacturability. Photo Aviaru.rf

In November 1940, new states of airborne brigades were introduced. They provided for the landing with a parachute, landing method from aircraft and with the help of gliders. Accordingly, the army needed new models of equipment. Later, a military aviation glider school was opened in Saratov, which was to train glider pilots.

The start of World War II spurred glider operations. Various types of equipment were proposed for transporting people and various cargoes, including artillery pieces and light vehicles. More bold designs were proposed, such as a set of planes for easy tank or a glider-fuel truck, capable of transferring fuel to a towing bomber and increasing its radius of action. However, not all new developments reached the series and were built in significant quantities.

War Gliders


In September 1941, the A-7 glider, created on the basis of the older RF-8, took off for the first time. It was a solid wood machine with a maximum take-off weight of less than 1900 kg. It was controlled by one pilot and transported six paratroopers. Production was deployed at several plants and continued until 1944. In total, the Red Army received at least 400 A-7 products (according to other sources, up to 600). Specialized modifications with special capabilities were created.

No less massive was the G-11 glider (aka Gr-29) designed by V.K. Gribovsky, created for the competition in 1940. With a normal flight weight of 2,4 tons, such a glider carried 10 paratroopers and one pilot. Tests of the G-11 were carried out in early autumn 1941, and in November they had already mastered serial production. By the end of the year, 10 gliders were handed over to the army. In 1944, a training modification of the G-11U with dual controls appeared. The production of G-11 gliders was completed in mid-1945. For all the time produced approx. 500 units.


Landing of paratroopers in A-7. Photo Aviaru.rf

Immediately after the outbreak of war D.N. Kolesnikov and P.V. Tsybin developed a project for the KC heavy glider (later on, the KC-2 and KC-20 variants appeared). The maximum take-off weight of the KC-20 exceeded 4,4 tons. The machine was controlled by two pilots and could carry 18 paratroopers or a comparable load. Production of the KC series was completed at the end of 1943. According to various sources, from 50 to 68 gliders were built.

Two regiments


Deliveries of serial gliders to the Red Army began in the last months of 1941. Equipment entered the airborne brigades and was initially used as a vehicle for transportation to the rear. Its small number so far ruled out full-fledged combat use in airborne operations. This state of affairs persisted until the spring of 1942.

In February and March 1942, several A-7 and G-11 gliders, as well as R-6, PS-84, SB and DB-3F towing planes, were transferred to the Strygino airfield (Gorkov region). Soon an order was issued to form the 1st separate air-glider regiment (1st squadron), subordinate directly to the command of the Airborne Forces. The regiment included two squadrons, in which there were 10 towers and 60 gliders.

In August of the same year, the 2nd training aviation-glider regiment was formed in the city of Kirzhach (Ivanovo Region) (a year later it was renamed the 2nd separate aviation-glider). He had at his disposal the DB-3F / Il-4 aircraft, as well as the G-11 and A-7 gliders.


Glider G-11. Photo Airwar.ru

In the future, new glider units were not formed. To solve the tasks in the interests of the army and other formations, such a group was quite enough. At different times, two regiments transported various cargoes in the rear and behind the front line, and also provided for landing.

Air transport


In the summer of 1942, pilots of the 1st OAPP were involved in the supply of partisan detachments in the Bryansk region. With the help of gliders, various cargoes and specialists were delivered to remote areas. However, such sorties were not carried out too often and without any clear system.

In November of that year, two glider regiments became the main participants in Operation Antifreeze. Earlier this month, in the region of Stalingrad it sharply became colder. The RKKA technique turned out to be unprepared for frost and needed large quantities of antifreeze - in the shortest possible time. The necessary resources were available in the Moscow region, but difficulties arose with the transfer. The railway and military transport aviation could not cope with the task in an acceptable time.

The command of the Airborne Forces proposed to organize the supply of troops using gliders. On November 10, two regiments rose in alarm and began preparing for flights. On the evening of November 12, the first sorties took place. Tugboats with loaded gliders took off from the airport of Bear Lake (Moscow Region) and, with several intermediate landings, reached the Stalingrad Region. The flight took up to 8-9 hours and often took place in difficult weather conditions.


Cabin G-11, front view. In the background you can see the pilot's seat, at the sides - the landing benches. Photo Airwar.ru

Operation “Antifreeze” used gliders G-11 and A-7. The larger G-11s took on board six 200-liter barrels of antifreeze, light A-7 - half as much. Until November 16, inclusive glider regiments completed 60 flights and transported approx. 50 tons of liquids and other loads. During the operation, 3 towers and 10 gliders were lost. Several pilots died. At the cost of such losses, it was possible to provide the army with the necessary resources. Further events near Stalingrad showed the importance of the operation.

At the turn of 1942-43. gliders were again involved in the supply of troops in the region of Stalingrad. In the spring, attempts were made to use gliders in the area of ​​besieged Leningrad.

Since March 1943, the main work of the two glider regiments was the supply of partisan detachments, mainly on the territory of Belarus. Flights were carried out at night, partisans organized and marked landing sites. After landing and unloading, the fate of the glider depended directly on the characteristics of the field “airfield”. If the platform allowed the towing plane to land, the glider could be taken out along with the wounded or some kind of cargo. Otherwise, the glider was disassembled into materials or simply burned.

In just two weeks of March 1943, 2 specialists and leaders, 140 tons of medicines, 3 tons of explosives, and thousands of small arms weapons and various ammunition. In 60 sorties, 65 gliders were lost (mainly due to the impossibility of returning). Almost all pilots were successfully returned "to the mainland."


Heavy glider KTs-20. Photo Airwar.ru

A new operation to supply partisans began in late April 1943 and lasted almost a year. During this time, partisan detachments received 135 gliders of all basic types with all the necessary cargo. At the same time, glider regiments were faced with opposition from the enemy. The Luftwaffe tried to intercept air traffic or follow it in search of partisan bases.

Landing operation


Airborne gliders were regularly used to deliver sabotage and reconnaissance groups to the rear of the enemy. Moreover, they only once participated in a full-scale airborne operation. Gliders, along with other equipment, were used to land a tactical landing on the right bank of the river. Dnipro September 24-25, 1943

For the landing, 180 military transport aircraft of various types were involved in the operation. The 1st and 2nd OAPs provided a total of 35 A-7 and G-11 gliders. At first, part of the gliders was used for landing landing of fighters. In the future, such equipment was used for the transport of medicines and ammunition, the evacuation of the wounded, etc. The operation as a whole was unsuccessful, but the gliders reaffirmed their potential - which could be realized if applied correctly.

End of work


In April 1944, the pilots of the 1st OAP made their last flight to supply the Belarusian partisans. After that, such flights were not performed. In fact, military operations using gliders have ended.

In June, the 1st OAP was taken to the city of Klin. In the fall, the glider regiment was reorganized into the 208th Guards Long-Range Aviation Regiment (208th Guards Add-On) and transferred to the IL-4 bombers. 2nd OAPP in the same period became the 209th Guards. update Gliders were written off to develop the resource, and their pilots were distributed among the flight schools of initial training.


Glider G-11 as a monument in the city of Shumerlya. Wikimedia Commons Photos

Part of the experienced pilots at the beginning of 1945 was transferred to the newly created 45th training aircraft regiment (45th utapp). The objective of this part was to preserve the experience and the development of new designs in order to further train pilots.

Some results


Soviet transport gliders were initially created in the interests of the Airborne Forces for conducting landing operations. However, for their intended purpose, they were used only once. The rest of the time, two glider regiments solved transport problems in the rear or helped partisans.

During the war years, more than a thousand gliders of several basic types were built. Having lost a substantial part of this equipment, it was possible to transport hundreds of tons of various cargoes to supply the army and partisan detachments, as well as to ensure the work of dozens of reconnaissance groups.

After World War II, the development of transport glider subjects continued, but no longer yielded noticeable results. New models of military transport aircraft appeared, which had obvious advantages, and gliders were unnecessary.
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  1. Vladimir_2U 16 May 2020 05: 56 New
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    Thanks, landing gliders are an interesting topic!
    Until November 16, inclusive glider regiments completed 60 flights and transported approx. 50 tons of liquids and other loads. During the operation, 3 towers and 10 gliders were lost. Several pilots died.
    This is the price of victory.
  2. Kote Pan Kokhanka 16 May 2020 05: 58 New
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    Thank you!
    Regards, Kote!
  3. svp67 16 May 2020 06: 05 New
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    .... In total, the Red Army received however 400 A-7 products (according to other sources, to 600) ....
    .... The production of G-11 gliders was completed in mid-1945. For all time made OK. 500 units.
    ... Production of the KC series was completed at the end of 1943. According to various sources, from 50 to 68 gliders were built, according to various sources ....
    A total of 950 to 1168 gliders ...
    The Germans overtook us in this matter.
    Military transport glider manufactured by Gothaer Waggonfabrik 1941-1944 for the Luftwaffe in such modifications: Go-242A-1/2, Go-242B-1/2/3/4/5 and Go-242C-1. All were released 1,5 thousand cars. TTX glider: length - 15,8 m; height - 4,3 m; wing span - 24,5 m; wing area - 64 m2; curb weight - 3,2 tons, take-off - 7,1 tons; maximum speed - 300 km; armament - four machine guns 7,92 mm MG-15 or MG-34; number of seats - 23.
    The average landing and transport glider Gotha Ka-430 was produced since 1944. In total, it was released 12 machines. TTX glider: length - 13,2 m; height - 4,2 m; wing span - 20 m; wing area - 38,7 2 ;; curb weight - 1.8 t, take-off - 4,6 m; maximum planning speed - 300 km / h, towing - 210 km / h; carrying capacity - 1,4 t; crew - 2 people; armament - 13-mm machine gun MG-131; number of seats - 12.
    The airborne glider DFS-230 was produced in 1938-1945. DFS in two versions: combat DFS-230A-1 and dual-training training DFS-230A-2. Total was released 1000 machines. TTX glider: length - 11,2 m; height - 2,7 m; curb weight - 860 kg, take-off - 2,1 t; wing span - 21 m; wing area - 41 m²; maximum speed - 290 km / h; carrying capacity - 1.2 t; crew - 1 person; number of seats - 10.
    The Me-321 Gigant glider was manufactured by Messerschmitt in 1941-1942. built 200 machines. TTX glider: length - 28 m; height - 10 m; carrying capacity - 22 t; curb weight - 12,2 tons, take-off - 34 tons; wing span - 55 m; wing area - 300 m²; maximum planning speed - 220 km / h, towing - 160 km / h; armament - two 7,92 mm machine guns MG-15 and MG-34; crew - 3 people; number of seats - 120.
    1. Well, "Giant" is, in general, the only one of its kind. I don’t know whether they entered it in the Guinness Book of Records or not ...
  4. Free wind 16 May 2020 06: 33 New
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    Well, with the transfer of antifreeze, it’s completely unclear, they carried diluted antifreeze, grade 40, it was possible to carry brand concentrate 90-95, that is, already 20 tons. and it seems a dozen Students would have coped with this task without undue effort, in a couple of days. I have never heard of glider operations, well, except for the only one ..... And how I can evacuate wounded partisans on a glider, I can hardly imagine.
    1. Nikolaevich I 16 May 2020 07: 30 New
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      Quote: Free Wind
      And how on the glider you can evacuate wounded partisans, I can hardly imagine.

      And where did you get that "wounded partisans were evacuated" on gliders? belay
      1. Free wind 16 May 2020 07: 32 New
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        The article is written.
        1. Nikolaevich I 16 May 2020 08: 19 New
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          Quote: Free Wind
          The article is written.

          Mdaaa ... well and "article" ... fool In principle, this was possible under favorable circumstances ... a towing plane landed and took off with a glider ...! But usually, this option was very, very rare! No wonder they tried to make gliders inexpensive, because it was supposed to be “disposable”!
    2. starpur 16 May 2020 07: 51 New
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      Such a case is described by I.I. Shelest. In 43 C.N. Anokhin on the A7 glider took the wounded out of the German rear. Aircraft towing SB was piloted by foreman Zhelyutov. The case, of course, is exceptional, but this also happened.
      1. Nikolaevich I 17 May 2020 04: 06 New
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        Quote: starpur
        In 43 C.N. Anokhin on the A7 glider took the wounded out of the German rear.

        As I said, such cases were not frequent; it is necessary that all the necessary circumstances take shape! In this case, it is worth paying attention to this circumstance: the front-line bomber was in the role of a tugboat ... not a "transporter" ... here it was "involuntarily" and I had to cling to a glider ... another circumstance: the glider was "at hand"!
  5. Nikolaevich I 16 May 2020 07: 46 New
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    They tried to "perfect" the glider "idea"! For example, by creating motor gliders! We were also engaged in this “idea” in the USSR, but immediately after the war ... The options for use were as follows: 1. Firstly, motor gliders could “start” without towers ...; 2. Wooden cases of motor gliders were burned, for example, and motor-blocks were “accumulated” and then taken out to a “transporter” ... 3. After take-off and gaining the required height. motoblocks were dropped by parachute ... That is, cheap ... wooden gliders were used, often, once, and "motoblocks", if possible, repeatedly ...
    1. Nikolaevich I 16 May 2020 08: 08 New
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      PS By the way, I almost forgot! If my memory serves me, then there were all-metal motor gliders ... The “algorithm” of application was as follows: 1. The motor glider took off and climbed with forced motors, then the motors turned off and the motor glider reached its “destination” ... 2. After landing and unloading, the motor glider took off and gained altitude with forced motors and "hobbled" to the house, ...
      1. Free wind 16 May 2020 08: 50 New
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        Applying such a scheme deprived the idea of ​​a glider of meaning. We received an ordinary slow-moving plane, very slow-moving, with the additional weight of the engine and fuel. But gliding is certainly beautiful, but expensive and impossible to see, fly away for hundreds of kilometers. It happened and over a thousand passed. They would fly in a circle until they wrap themselves around.
        1. volodimer 16 May 2020 09: 28 New
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          Why deprived of the idea, here the basis of the idea was lack of a towing aircraft, and not so much at the starting point, but also at the landing point, plus this is the opportunity to return and not lose the glider.
          And do not put the towing boat at risk which was huge, in the described starpurOhm above the case, because in fact the tug also flew to the rear of the enemy.
          Otherwise, yes, a very slow-moving aircraft, but silent.
          1. Free wind 16 May 2020 09: 30 New
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            Stealth specific.
            1. volodimer 16 May 2020 09: 34 New
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              But the increase in the capabilities of radar, most likely caused the end of the military use of gliders. Detecting easily, knocking down or preparing for a meeting on earth is also not a problem.
              1. Free wind 16 May 2020 09: 39 New
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                A large number of beautiful aircraft appeared.
              2. IL-64 16 May 2020 10: 02 New
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                Something tells me that it was impossible to find a wooden glider using radar from the Second World War
          2. Lopatov 16 May 2020 09: 46 New
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            Quote: volodimer
            Why it deprived the idea, the main idea here was the lack of a towing aircraft, and not only at the starting point, but also at the landing point, plus this is an opportunity to return and not to lose the glider.

            It was not important by and large.
            It was important to quickly transfer a lot of paratroopers. Cheap gliders.
            After the war, in the airborne division there was one landing airborne regiment per parachute regiment
            So if a motor glider could be useful, it is only to ensure the mass lifting of gliders into the air
            1. volodimer 16 May 2020 10: 08 New
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              I agree, post-war glider work solved the problems of the past war.
              The main one is the lack of aviation for transporting assault forces, since the DS / LI were massively converted to bombers, as a result of the lack of transport aviation, which was replaced by gliders. And the loss of gliders during transport missions led to motor gliders.
              1. Lopatov 16 May 2020 10: 19 New
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                Quote: volodimer
                The main one is the lack of aviation for transporting assault forces, since the DS / LI were massively converted to bombers, as a result of the lack of transport aviation, which was replaced by gliders.

                Controversial.
                The Americans during the war had one two-battalion glider per parachute three-battalion regiment

                But the Americans had no problems with the bombers

                Or, for example, the British paratroopers in Normandy
                1. volodimer 16 May 2020 10: 57 New
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                  Yes, but they didn’t have problems with the tugs for these same gliders, and we and the gliders stopped producing, because whoever lifts them into the air. Well, the scale of the landing they had was huge. And we used all our capabilities under the rust, though the conditions were much worse than in Normandy or Crete.
                  А
                  The Americans during the war had one two-battalion glider per parachute three-battalion regiment
                  this is due to the fact that they, too, lacked not bombers, but transporters. Somehow they don’t jump from a glider with a parachute.
                  1. Lopatov 16 May 2020 12: 53 New
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                    Quote: volodimer
                    this is due to the fact that they, too, lacked not bombers, but transporters.

                    It was enough.
                    It’s just that a glider is cheaper, it’s more reliable, it’s the possibility of landing a combat-ready unit, including heavy weapons
                    1. volodimer 16 May 2020 13: 25 New
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                      For World War II, yes, but after it: “cheaply and reliably and massively”, it became unnecessary with developed transport aircraft, which are “reliably and massively”, and with the development of systems for landing heavy weapons, the last arguments for
                      ended like military gliders.
                      As a result, we have come to what we have now, when the very possibility of landing large formations behind enemy lines is being called into question.
                      Best regards hi
                  2. Alexey RA 16 May 2020 16: 36 New
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                    Quote: volodimer
                    this is due to the fact that they, too, lacked not bombers, but transporters. Somehow they don’t jump from a glider with a parachute.

                    Heh heh heh ... so the tugs at the gliders were just transporters - C-47. smile

                    So every glider involved is minus one transporter.

                    There are two main advantages of a glider over a transporter, for the sake of which they were built even in the USA:
                    1. During glider landing, the unit lands without dispersion in the terrain, all at once.
                    2. The glider allows you to load and quickly unload artillery onto vehicles on a minimally prepared site, cars (and even tanks) - without disassembly and subsequent assembly.

                    So, in Chicago’s operation on 52 CG-4A Waco gliders towed by 52 C-47 Skytrain, 155 people loaded, a bulldozer, 16 57-mm anti-tank vehicles, 25 vehicles, 2,5 tons of ammunition, 11 tons of equipment, including SCR -499 for the field commander of the 101st division.

                    An ordinary transporter, such as the C-47, is not available. And those who are available need a long, prepared strip.
            2. Uncle Izya 16 May 2020 10: 21 New
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              And how many kilometers could he fly 100-200?
              1. Lopatov 16 May 2020 10: 25 New
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                German motor glider Go 244 flew 740 km.
                1. Uncle Izya 16 May 2020 11: 30 New
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                  Not bad, but with a motor this is a different level and you don’t depend on the wind
          3. Nikolaevich I 16 May 2020 11: 51 New
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            You can take into account another "plus" in motor gliders ... an increase in flight range! Such a transport motor glider could be equipped with fairly low-power ("small") engines and be used in conjunction with a towing aircraft! The engines started on the "route" when the aircraft began to lose altitude ... it was necessary to raise the height! The result of "all this" was an increase in the flight range of the "loaded" glider (motor glider) ... I can’t say now (I don’t remember!) Whether motor gliders were produced in series (whether they were adopted ...) ... but interest in motor gliders did not last long! Many projects remained: "on paper", in unfinished prototypes, in single prototypes built ...
            Is "restoration" of motor gliders possible? And who knows them!? Now sovereign airspace over the state is considered up to 80 km "in height"! Above ... it is not regulated by international law; which means, as it were, you can fly! We are also aware of the project of a "two-fuselage" airplane ... a catamaran! This "catamaran" can serve as a towing vehicle of a kind of "motor glider", equipped with a booster block from the rocket engine! The towing plane lifts the "motor glider" to the available height "on the back" ... the booster block (LRE) is launched. "Glider" rises to a height of more than 80 km and "telepaths" to the desired point in the designated "state territory" ... Unlike the alternative "full-fledged transport" this can be cheaper and not so sorry to leave there forever ...
            1. Lopatov 16 May 2020 13: 00 New
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              Quote: Nikolaevich I
              Is "restoration" of motor gliders possible? And who knows them!?

              The Americans had something in the field of unmanned disposable motor gliders / paragliders for emergency supplies of units of marines
            2. Kote Pan Kokhanka 16 May 2020 17: 36 New
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              About the catamarans!
              He 111 Z-1 - two He-111 aircraft connected to each other by a fifth engine - used as a tow glider for a heavy glider - Me 321

              It is doubtful that the glider will be able to fly at an altitude of 80 km! I am not a physicist, but the records of jet aircraft do not exceed 50 km.
              100 km is already near space.
              1. Nikolaevich I 17 May 2020 02: 43 New
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                Quote: Kote Pan Kokhanka
                It is doubtful that the glider will be able to fly at an altitude of 80 km!

                Well, let's call it the "glider" ... then it will certainly fly! wink You yourself said that 100 km is already near space! And in space, not like a glider .... a stone must fly! smile
    2. DDT
      DDT 16 May 2020 18: 52 New
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      Then it would be better just to add ordinary powder boosters. Type took off, dropped the dummy and flew where necessary. Ato is right, comrade, under-plane, plus fuel dragging unnecessary on itself.
      1. Nikolaevich I 17 May 2020 03: 27 New
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        Quote: DDT
        Then it would be better just to add ordinary powder boosters.

        Well. it is possible that in reality there was such a project ... in any case, in my school years I had an idea: a glider with launch rocket (powder) boosters ... based on the MiG-15 ejection launch ...
        Quote: DDT
        under-plane, plus also fuel on itself drags unnecessary.

        And how does the advertisement say? If expensive and cheap means cope with the task, then why pay more? Indeed, now such an approach works! An example is drones ... After all, they can also be considered in some sense, as "under-planes" ... especially, at the beginning of the development of the idea! But practical considerations "prevailed" ... and among them ": save the lives of pilots ..." - not the only one! Other were also significant ... for example, "Modern manned aircraft are very expensive ... it's a pity to lose them! After all, there will be nothing to fight soon! Why send an expensive manned aircraft for a specific task if this is the task the drone can accomplish ?! " And "earlier" with drones was tight! So I had to use "surrogates" ... for example, gliders (motor gliders)! Does it drag fuel? So rocket boosters are also fuel!
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          DDT 17 May 2020 13: 51 New
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          Immediately on the last point, yes, rocket boosters are also fuel, but as a result of use, the fuel burns out, making the structure easier and giving additional acceleration for each liter of fuel that is ripe, and it’s not a pity to throw the dummy later. Do you know how much a diesel engine is? Not talking about an aircraft engine
          Then, the problem of the glider, he is defenseless. He will be knocked down with all the parachutists and what, turn the glider into a mass grave? Too limited use for gliders and used them not from a good life, it seems to me.
          1. Nikolaevich I 17 May 2020 16: 26 New
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            And why not look at this “problem" differently? That "diesel" with a supply (albeit small ...) of fuel; that rocket boosters still limit the "carrying capacity" of the glider during take-off! And then there’s no “give a damn” - is there any difference that in one case the spent accelerators are reset after take-off or the “diesels” remain after “working off” on the glider ...! Moreover, you did not carefully read my comments! Among the projects of motor gliders were those when, after takeoff and climb, the “motor blocks” were dropped from the airframe by parachutes ...
            1. DDT
              DDT 17 May 2020 18: 03 New
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              Yes, I read it. Therefore, he emphasized that the game is not worth the candle! Judge for yourself, you put a diesel engine, there alone engines weigh more than conventionally "rockets", plus fuel for them. And now look, the diesel is eating fuel. But it doesn’t get any easier. A rocket eats fuel astronomically fast, for a couple of seconds, the necessary acceleration and relief of the aircraft is achieved. understand what i mean? That is, an expensive engine that can be put on a plane. Is he also on a parachute? What the hell? And how much do we lose then in the lifted weight? We need acceleration. But the "rocket" gives such acceleration, in a few seconds and do not need to bother with parachutes. Therefore, if gliders return to the army, then that's the only way.
              And if with a diesel engine and fuel supply, then this is already a plane laughing
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                Aag 18 May 2020 17: 55 New
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                "But the rocket gives such acceleration in a few seconds."
                I’m not an aviator, to some extent a rocket launcher. And something tells me (probably a school course in physics) that the profile of the plane (wing) that creates the lifting force varies greatly for different speeds. This is not even mentioning the compromise (remember that gliders they were introduced, first of all, as cheap means). Therefore, your statement about the "few seconds" of the RD on the glider seems rash. hi Here it’s either a liquid taxiway (which fundamentally kills the idea of ​​simplicity and cheapness) or a TT taxiway (solid propellant rocket engine) with controlled thrust vectors. That also bury the idea of ​​simplicity and cheapness.
                If in what is wrong, justify, please.
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                  Sorry for the long silence, ban. I know, also not a specialist and all my knowledge, from the DOSAAF model airplane club
                  I completely agree with you that they are gliders and gliders to plan. Then just a friend wanted to put motors on them; and I expressed my own difference from his point of view that the motors will turn the glider into a plane. But, with rocket engines, with not too strong acceleration, an impulse will be given which, in theory, will accelerate the glider, to the speeds necessary when the wing starts to work. Smarter, unfortunately I can’t write because I'm in a hurry again in the ban
                  Good luck and not get sick. hi hi
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                    Aag 26 May 2020 07: 19 New
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                    I see ... Good luck! hi
  6. Aviator_ 16 May 2020 10: 15 New
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    tactical landing on the right bank of the river. Dnipro September 24-25, 1943

    The operation as a whole was unsuccessful

    It turned out to be unsuccessful only because the landing happened directly on German reserves, and therefore the mission did not fulfill the mission. True, the Germans also lost their reserves.
    In the early 50s, gliders were used in the Arctic in experiments on equipping jump ice airfields to organize an air strike across the United States through the pole. Read from someone in his memoirs.
  7. dgonni 16 May 2020 11: 07 New
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    The author of the Maltz is mistaken in the sense that all the glider fagots were taken out to the mainland.
    With the union. I don’t remember which edition already. In my opinion, in the wings of the motherland, I can be mistaken of course. There was an interview with the glider commander. So he with humor and slander so, about the level of zhurnalyug, told me that they say that zhurnalyugi asked me to let the glider fly the maximum number of times flew to the partisans. And having heard the number, 25-26, in my opinion they were very surprised and saddened because they counted on hearing hundreds of numbers.
    As the interviewer said, the pilots basically did not return to the mainland but joined the partisan detachments.
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      Quote: dgonni
      As the interviewer said, the pilots basically did not return to the mainland but joined the partisan detachments.

      Apparently, you misunderstood.
      Often there was no way to pick them up, yes.
      But the installation was tight, at the first opportunity the pilots were taken out to the mainland, they were not allowed to remain in the detachments. All gliders shot down. released from captivity .. It seems that Vershigory had an episode in his memoirs on this subject.
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    The little-studied period of the war - to be honest, for the first time I learned that even two glider regiments existed. Thanks to the author for the work, I read the article with interest.
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    After the war, there was still a Yak-14, and Ilyushin was doing something.
  10. Parsec 16 May 2020 18: 32 New
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    March 1940 - the Saratov Military Aviation Pilot School was formed;
    1941 - the school of pilots was transformed into a glider school;
    1945 - the school was relocated to Pugachev, Saratov Region, and transformed into the Airborne Glider Aviation School;
    1952 - on the basis of the school, the 160th military school of pilots was created;
    1953 - the school switched to the development of a fundamentally new aviation technology - helicopters.
    from the history of the Syzran VVAUL.
    And here is such a sign, with its own emblem.
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    [Center][/ Center

    Badge of the Glider School.]
  12. 3x3zsave 16 May 2020 18: 47 New
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    In August of the same year in the city of Kirzhach (Ivanovo region)
    I terribly apologize, dear Cyril, but the city of Kirzhach, in Russia, is one, and it is in the Vladimir region.
    1. cobalt 16 May 2020 19: 29 New
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      The Vladimir region was organized in 1944, before that Kirzhach was part of the Ivanovo industrial region, so that according to the chronology of events is indicated correctly.
      1. 3x3zsave 16 May 2020 19: 38 New
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        Good! I will look at the sources.
        And minus for what?
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          Minus did not set
          1. 3x3zsave 16 May 2020 19: 54 New
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            Good! Thank! So personal gremlins. laughing
  13. Observer2014 16 May 2020 20: 42 New
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    Author:
    Ryabov Kirill
    yes good It was interesting to read! Try typing about the post-war years. Then about the modern. Interesting topic. Regards hi !
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    IMHO, it would be better if Antonov An-2 would have done before the war, and was not fond of gliders. You look, and the losses of the Red Army, would have decreased several times, and our supply would be an order of magnitude better than that of the Wehrmacht.
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    These books were published on the use of gliders during World War II.
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    Aag 18 May 2020 17: 57 New
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    "But the rocket gives such acceleration in a few seconds."
    I’m not an aviator, to some extent a rocket launcher. And something tells me (probably a school course in physics) that the profile of the plane (wing) that creates the lifting force varies greatly for different speeds. This is not even mentioning the compromise (remember that gliders they were introduced, first of all, as cheap means). Therefore, your statement about the "few seconds" of the RD on the glider seems rash. hi Here it’s either a liquid taxiway (which fundamentally kills the idea of ​​simplicity and cheapness) or a TT taxiway (solid propellant rocket engine) with controlled thrust vectors. That also bury the idea of ​​simplicity and cheapness.
    If in what is wrong, justify, please.
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      Aag 18 May 2020 18: 14 New
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      Sorry, distracted, thanks to the author of the article for an interesting topic. But! Having some impression (positive) from the author’s articles, I was expecting a heading such as gliders, towers, in numbers.) No performance characteristics, no assessment of the appropriateness of use in certain conditions.
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        Aag 18 May 2020 18: 46 New
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        "No performance characteristics, no assessment of the appropriateness of use in certain conditions."
        I wrote it myself, I got horny. The late grandfather partisaned in the Bryansk region. You can’t get your tongues out with ticks. Having read in adolescence, books from the Military Shelters series, asked him unconsciously, what about gliders? Answer: so until he arrives ... T .e worked !?
        And the question arises: HOW? Did you fly on these aircraft practically without maneuver, means of salvation? There was a very narrow scope!
        Glory to the pilots of gliders, tugboats! Everyone involved in the Victory!