The law on the closure of procurement data under the state defense order adopted by the State Duma

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The law on the closure of procurement data under the state defense order adopted by the State Duma

The State Duma on Friday, April 17, at a plenary meeting in the third, final reading, adopted a bill obliging state-owned companies to close information on a number of procurements in the field of state defense orders. This was reported on the official website of the State Duma.

According to the explanatory note to the bill, the new law excludes the obligation to post procurement information as part of a defense public procurement both by state customers and by order executors. Thus, the new law limits the circle of persons who possess information about the implementation of the state defense order.



The document obliges to close information on a number of purchases related to the creation, supply and maintenance of military and special equipment, as well as space technology. Tenders for such equipment and weapons will be held on a special closed site, information on their conduct and concluded contracts in the public domain will not appear.

It is reported that with the introduction of the new law, information on enterprises, suppliers and other individuals and legal entities involved in the implementation of the defense order under international sanctions will disappear from open access, which has previously led to negative consequences in the form of restrictive measures by the United States and the EU.



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    1. +13
      April 17 2020 11: 16
      Belated but correct decision.
      1. -13
        April 17 2020 11: 58
        In fact, since the National Bank of Ukraine is under the control of the Rothschilds (US Federal Reserve), this means only one thing that all financial transactions of the military-industrial complex of Ukraine from indirect control by the EU and the United States are completely transferred to secret indirect control only by the Pentagon United States.

        REFERENCE
        The term "transaction" has a Latin origin and, in direct translation, means “exchange” or “committing”.
        In a broadly common sense, the term is used to refer to any data exchange operation that has resulted in changes to the system.
        Today this word [bch] is most often used in the FINANCIAL sphere and means a transaction, as a result of which the BANK accounts of the participants have changed. [/ B]
        1. +18
          April 17 2020 12: 12
          And where does Ukraine? In the article about her not a word, it is about Russia.
          1. -3
            April 17 2020 12: 16
            Inattentively perceived the article. However, the error is small.

            This also applies to the Russian Federation - through the dependence of the Central Bank of Russia and the financial and economic block of the Russian government on the US Federal Reserve (IMF, etc.)
            The military-industrial complex can hide only from the public, but not from the US Federal Reserve.
            1. 0
              April 17 2020 12: 32
              Quote: Tatiana
              Incorrectly accepted the article.
              But this also applies to the Russian Federation - through the dependence of the Central Bank of Russia and the financial and economic bloc of the Russian government on the US Federal Reserve (IMF, etc.).
              The military-industrial complex can hide only from the public, but not from the US Federal Reserve.

              Yes, the criminal activity of this kodla is evident, but there are forces that oppose them, otherwise we did not have new models of missile and not only weapons. And in the current situation with the general closing of quarantine cities, the golikov’s efforts to destroy the healthcare system, which were flabbergasted, were unable to combat the spread of the virus and the treatment of those infected.
              1. +3
                April 17 2020 12: 39
                Quote: Sayan
                Yes, the criminal activity of this kodla is evident, but there are forces that oppose them, otherwise we did not have new models of missile and not only weapons.

                Alas, the authorities are increasingly shutting themselves off from the public - if they knew their arguments on this subject.
                Corruption and profit are one thing, and preparing for defense in a war is another. But still, the United States will know about the Russian Federation through the US Federal Reserve about us all.
                1. +3
                  April 17 2020 13: 43
                  Arguments ... On the one hand, as it were, but on the other ... everything is as usual:
                  "The trend, which has been observed for several years in a row, towards a decrease in the cost of operating the e-government infrastructure, carried out by Rostelecom under contracts with the Ministry of Telecom and Mass Communications, came to an abrupt end in 2019. The amounts allocated to the operator increased significantly. new such contracts have ended up in the backyard of a public procurement site, where they are very difficult to find. "
              2. +2
                April 17 2020 15: 02
                Today, TASS reported that the Russian Federation increased its investments to almost $ 12,8 billion in US bonds. Dedollarization, however!
            2. -1
              April 19 2020 20: 03
              Since when is the ruble transaction controlled by the Fed?
        2. +8
          April 17 2020 12: 16
          Quote: Tatiana
          Actually, since the National Bank of Ukraine is controlled by the Rothschilds

          --------------------------
          Do we think otherwise? All assets seized in Russia are transferred to Rothschild.
        3. 0
          April 17 2020 13: 46
          Quote: Tatiana
          The National Bank of Ukraine is under the control of the Rothschilds (US Federal Reserve), this means only one thing that all financial transactions of the military-industrial complex of Ukraine from indirect control by the EU and the United States are completely transferred to secret indirect control only by the Pentagon United States.

          It follows that the control of the financial system of Ukraine is now mainly in the hands of the City of London, for the Rothschilds have lost control over the US Federal Reserve ... but have retained it in the IMF, the World Bank and ... Ukraine.
          And about the news from the article - a sigh of relief.
          At last .
          1. 0
            April 17 2020 14: 24
            Quote: https: bayard
            control of the financial system of Ukraine is now mainly in the hands of the City of London, for The Rothschilds lost control of the US Federal Reserve ... but retained it in the IMF, World Bank and ... Ukraine
            .
            It is unclear how the Rothschilds can lose control over the US Federal Reserve - while retaining control over the IMF, World Bank, etc.?
            If at all The main owners of the Federal Reserve Bank are (including the Rothschilds themselves):
            1. The Rothschilds of London and Berlin,
            2. The Lazard brothers from Paris,
            3. Israel Moses Shif from Italy,
            4. Kuhn, Loeb and K from the Federal Republic of Germany (Germany) and New York, Wartburg-Company Hamburg, Bank Lehman Brothers (New York),
            5. Goldman, Sachs from New York,
            5. Rockefeller Brothers (New York).
            All of these banks are associated with the Banking Houses of London, which ultimately control the activities of the above individuals.

            Source: https://fishki.net/1250699-federalnyj-rezervnyj-bank-ssha-i-ego-vladelcy.html © Fishki.net
            1. +1
              April 17 2020 15: 26
              According to the latest reports (if you believe Panarin and many others), Trump nationalized the Fed, putting it under state control (Kenedy acted somewhat differently in his time) and, if you again believe these reports, "kicked" the Rothschilds out of the control structures of the US financial system.
              Evil tongues say that they, too, are being told the case of "pedophiles".
              In addition, stubborn rumors have been circulating over the past couple of years that the United States has sought to push Ukraine's curatorship into the City of London.

              But this is of course only rumors ... what feel request bully
              love
              1. 0
                April 17 2020 15: 37
                Quote: bayard
                But this is of course only rumors ...

                Most likely, these are just rumors.
                For the mere fact that US President John F. Kennedy allowed the US Treasury to bypass the Fed banks to issue $ 2 banknotes, they killed him a month later, and the issue of government money was immediately closed by the $ 2 banknotes issued by the government treasury seized.
                All US Fed banks are private.
                1. +2
                  April 17 2020 18: 41
                  With Kennedy, of course, it turned out badly ...
                  And I heard about US Treasury dollars ... I even had such a bill ... was presented by an employee of a New York bank.
                  But about the "pedophile case" all American and other Internet bells are ringing ... Maybe with such "smoke" and fire there is a place to be? ... winked
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      2. +2
        April 17 2020 22: 01
        It’s hard not to agree that military procurement should be kept secret, but it will also be necessary to raise the ability of the controlling authorities to reduce corruption deals. Indeed, in the dark, black deeds are easier to do. There are always pros and cons of publicity-secrecy.
    2. +2
      April 17 2020 11: 19
      Well done. Just what has not passed this law before?
      1. +6
        April 17 2020 11: 21
        they were afraid of corruption ... in vain, probably, where did she go
        1. 0
          April 17 2020 11: 29
          Typically, such bills are passed in the first reading, and with this they bred tyagomotin
          1. +2
            April 17 2020 11: 30
            It is beneficial for someone, someone not ... the interests of the state ... as always ..
            1. +2
              April 17 2020 11: 33
              So what for the state such a thought that cares about its interests in the first place, but about the interests of the state in the last?
              1. +5
                April 17 2020 11: 34
                oh, this question ... before the election is not so long ...
              2. +4
                April 17 2020 11: 45
                a thought that cares about its interests

                (FTS) of Russia has proposed to enter the income of each family in a special register ... The State Duma has already discussed this law in the first reading ... all income of a person and his family will fall under a full cap ... the Shvak case ... from the point of view of financial independence from states will now all be under the full cap of fiscal and at the same time and other bodies.
                The thing is that the State Duma wants to give state bodies the right to intervene in the family’s financial affairs ... the right to regulate and limit people's incomes ... it will not lead to anything good.
                1. -3
                  April 17 2020 11: 51
                  And this is good - finally everyone will start paying honest taxes, it will be much easier for all fraudsters and crooks to reveal as well as the illegal incomes of officials.
                  1. +4
                    April 17 2020 12: 06
                    [quote] finally everyone will start paying honest taxes, all fraudsters and crooks will be much easier to open as well as the illegal income of officials [/ quote] [quote]
                    I don’t think ... bankers cheated like that and will cheat. Moreover, this information is very valuable ... it allows you to evaluate credit risks ... besides, when sensitive information is concentrated in the wrong hands, there is always a risk that it will fall into unclean hands ... there are a lot of examples in the vastness of our Motherland ... besides, for example, I really don’t like it when someone else’s uncle will decide for me how much I can earn and what kind of bargains to exist.
                    1. -1
                      April 17 2020 14: 04
                      What does it mean for you will decide how much you earn and how much not - no one will decide what you earn or how much you can, pay taxes or who will not say a word to you. Bankers are interested in the information only of those who have large companies with multimillion-dollar turnovers; they do not need your information, what would they waste time on it.
                  2. +2
                    April 17 2020 13: 21
                    And this is good - finally everyone will start paying honest taxes, it will be much easier for all fraudsters and crooks to reveal as well as the illegal incomes of officials.

                    You probably forgot the emoticon like this to insert at the end lol, but?
                  3. AUL
                    +1
                    April 17 2020 16: 34
                    Quote: Vadim237
                    , all fraudsters and crooks will be much easier to open as well as illegal proceeds

                    When the "openers" get rich, Colonel Zakharchenko will strangle himself with envy!
                2. +3
                  April 17 2020 12: 01
                  This is the flip side of the development of information technology. Sooner or later this was to happen. And Russia is not number 1 at all.
                3. +1
                  April 17 2020 12: 15
                  Quote: The same LYOKHA
                  matter shvak ... from the point of view of financial independence from the state, now everyone will be under a full cap of fiscals and at the same time other bodies
                  The transition to electronic money will provide the ability to programmatically track the delta between the income and expenses of each citizen and automatically start the proceedings if this difference exceeds the permissible. A very unpleasant prospect for lovers of illegal income. If we also establish the maximum income difference, then we can find ourselves in the realm of justice without any revolutions, the coronovirus will help us. Just for Mishustin task
                  1. +3
                    April 17 2020 12: 21
                    .
                    A very unpleasant prospect for lovers of illegal income. If you also set the maximum income difference
                    Went a man borrowed a hundred thousand from a friend (he decided to buy a car ... not enough money) does he automatically fall into the database of illegal income lovers? ... so you can go too far.
                    1. +1
                      April 17 2020 12: 26
                      Quote: The same LYOKHA
                      Went a man borrowed a hundred thousand from a friend ... does he automatically fall into the database of lovers of illegal income?
                      You don’t have to go anywhere, call a friend, he will translate. This will immediately be reflected in debit credits. What problems?
                      1. +5
                        April 17 2020 12: 27
                        You don’t have to go anywhere, call a friend, he will translate. What problems?

                        And if it’s cash from savings? For the tax, it’s still unaccounted for ... what do you need to prove to her that you are not a turkey?
                        I am not a supporter of electronic money ... I consider them an inevitable evil ... because too easily they can be lost by the will of a stranger.
                        1. +1
                          April 17 2020 12: 31
                          Quote: The same LYOKHA
                          And if it is cash from savings?
                          The bank will have to dig out from under the apple tree and take it to the bank, since it is a question of switching to electronic money, without this in any way. Only by card. Then the state and Sber bought in time ...
                        2. +6
                          April 17 2020 12: 36
                          The bank will have to dig out from under the apple tree and take it to the bank, since it is a question of switching to electronic money, without this in any way. Only by card.

                          That's it ... someone decided for me how to save money for me ... and then for me decides how to use this money ... and then, in general, decide what the hell this money will live for me.
                          You know such a society and the state is not good for you.
                        3. 0
                          April 17 2020 12: 45
                          Quote: The same LYOKHA
                          such a society is not good
                          Not for you alone, but for everyone who would like to hide their sources of income, but at the same time their expenses. Everyone must learn to obey the law: kirdyk to limitless liberalism.
                        4. +3
                          April 17 2020 12: 49
                          .
                          Everyone needs to learn to obey the law: the kirdyk of liberalism.

                          If the law obliges you to jump from the ninth floor, do you jump?
                          The law should take into account the opinion of citizens ... and current laws take into account the opinion of Mishustin ... the opinion of bankers ... the opinion of fiscal ... they all benefit from it.
                          As an ordinary citizen, I have more and more risks of losing my electronic money as a result of the actions of Internet fraudsters and the actions of bankers or unclean officials.
                          Full of stories when a person on a bank card suddenly suddenly disappears money ... where to look for the guilty?
                          Bankers with clean blue eyes pretend that I am not me and not my dear ... for this reason I am a vicious opponent of electronic money ... I do not believe them and that’s all despite the simplicity and apparent benefits of using them.
                        5. 0
                          April 17 2020 12: 53
                          Quote: The same LYOKHA
                          Bankers with clear blue eyes pretend ...
                          You do not understand, they are afraid of this law more than you, if only because they have more cash, probably, and the word "cashing" is not an empty phrase.
                        6. +3
                          April 17 2020 12: 56
                          they fear this law more than you

                          Perhaps ... but I, too, have little joy from this .... bankers will cover all their losses at the expense of millions of our citizens.
                          Now, after a pandemic, money will not be enough, and then the State Duma, with its fateful laws, crawls into the personal lives of citizens ... all this is bad.
                        7. 0
                          April 17 2020 12: 57
                          Quote: The same LYOKHA
                          all this is bad.
                          This is clear. And we’ll all be
                        8. +3
                          April 17 2020 12: 59
                          .
                          And we’ll all be

                          smile With a damn two ... I am Soviet hardened hi I’ll interrupt myself on bread and water ... but for my family I’m worried ... what will happen to them with such innovations in our society is completely incomprehensible.
                        9. 0
                          April 17 2020 13: 09
                          Quote: The same LYOKHA
                          what will happen to them with such innovations in our society is completely incomprehensible
                          I can’t even imagine what to worry about, so I look forward to them.
                        10. +2
                          April 17 2020 13: 37
                          I can’t even imagine what to worry about.

                          Well, for example, you paid too much a month in stores ... more than your salary ... kindly be on the list of unreliable citizens ... if you please explain to fiscals where you got the excess ... and why on earth?
                          Every time I have to report to them that the surplus from my mother or wife ... or where I earned money ... is the State Duma’s rations too much to interfere with my personal life?
                        11. +2
                          April 17 2020 13: 54
                          Quote: The same LYOKHA
                          Well, for example, you paid too much a month in stores ... more than your salary ... kindly be on the list of unreliable citizens ... if you please explain to fiscals where you got the excess ... and why on earth?
                          I have a pension and odd jobs, the origin of which is not difficult for me to explain if anyone is interested. In other words, my personal shadow income is too insignificant to deny the need to combat the shadow economy, which brings me more expenses as a result than I have income inside it. Something like this. This is a bare calculation, but there are also moral bonuses ...
                        12. +1
                          April 17 2020 15: 17
                          ,
                          my personal shadow income is too insignificant to deny the need to combat the shadow economy, which brings me more expenses as a result than I have income inside it.

                          It’s all so ... but you will also be blacklisted as the largest violators of the economy and it’s not difficult to predict what ideas repressive fans may have.
                        13. 0
                          April 18 2020 09: 52
                          Quote: sniperino
                          Quote: The same LYOKHA
                          such a society is not good
                          Not for you alone, but for everyone who would like to hide their sources of income, but at the same time their expenses. Everyone must learn to obey the law: kirdyk to limitless liberalism.


                          This is true only in a socially equitable state, where presidents travel to work by bike or by public transport.
            2. +4
              April 17 2020 12: 18
              Quote: novel xnumx
              state interests ...

              ------------------------------
              And where is the state? There are interests of some Chemezov.
        2. 0
          April 17 2020 11: 48
          Quote: novel xnumx
          they were afraid of corruption ... in vain, probably, where did she go

          Well, so as not to be afraid anymore and adopted the new law. :)
          1. +5
            April 17 2020 11: 50
            who will guard the watchmen ... the eternal question
        3. +5
          April 17 2020 12: 17
          Quote: novel xnumx
          they were afraid of corruption ... in vain, probably, where did she go

          -----------------------
          The closure leads to even more corruption, gold bolts and platinum toilets may appear.
          1. +4
            April 17 2020 12: 21
            garbage question .. so it will be
          2. AUL
            +1
            April 17 2020 16: 46
            So that's the whole idea! Do you think for the sake of secrecy in the defense industry? It's not even funny ... If the contractor is profitable to share some information - will he not share? But under the trademark of secrecy, SUCH things are happening, they saw SUCH money! And no "dignity" will squeak, for it is a state secret. Not to mention the fact that the right people will receive such SDOs.
    3. +5
      April 17 2020 11: 24
      Well now, cabbage at the price of gold, you can safely buy ....
      1. -2
        April 17 2020 11: 28
        Quote: Strategist
        Well now, cabbage at the price of gold, you can safely buy ....

        It’s you who tell the Pentagon a, otherwise they bought hammers back in the 60s at $ 1000 ..
        1. +3
          April 17 2020 11: 29
          Where is the Pentagon with its budget and where is our MO?
          1. -3
            April 17 2020 11: 35
            Well, let's compare .. We have a budget of 45-60bn \ $ they have 700-750bn \ $ .. The difference is .. okay 20 times! We look at the hammer 1 (one) piece, the price of 1000 dollars is converted into rubles 80 000 rubles, divided by 20 = 4000 (thousands) rubles .. And now throw me a link to purchase MO of hammers for 4000 rubles .. And that's not counting the inflation that went over the dollar since the 60s ... So our saw cutters are children against the background of the bright elves from the shining Valinor ..
            1. 0
              April 17 2020 11: 47
              In general, something depends on the size of the budget and the extent of the cut .... that it would not be burned at all
            2. +1
              April 17 2020 11: 54
              If hammers and sledge hammers are made of special alloys, then the price of 4000 rubles is not prohibitive. RPG 30 grenade launcher costs 100000 rubles; the Cornet rocket is 830000 rubles.
              1. -4
                April 17 2020 12: 07
                Quote: Vadim237
                If hammers and sledge hammers are made of special alloys, then the price of 4000 rubles is not prohibitive. RPG 30 grenade launcher costs 100000 rubles; the Cornet rocket is 830000 rubles.

                Now, translate all this into American rubles and make sure that the prices are cheap ... For soshniks it was an ordinary hammer .. I remember there and the Angles annealed buying cream for burns at 4300 pounds at a price similar to that in a pharmacy in the kingdom of 3 (three) pounds. .
              2. +1
                April 17 2020 16: 43
                If hammers and sledge hammers are made of special alloys, then the price of 4000 rubles is not prohibitive

                They have an electronic nail guidance system. Chance of hitting a finger decreased by 50%.
            3. +1
              April 17 2020 12: 07
              Quote: max702
              And now throw me a link to purchase MO of hammers for 4000 rubles.

              Import of equipment and components for the production of "Muren" at the Khabarovsk shipyard.
              I've seen invoices for hammers, wrenches, and files for $ 1000 or more each. This is when the purchased equipment is delivered in parts. In this case, it is likely that the price for individual parts and tools is set by the supplier "from the flashlight", if only the amount coincides with the total cost of the equipment.
              1. -1
                April 17 2020 12: 22
                It’s one thing when it’s when the component of the order there is really anything .. But when purchasing for household needs is another .. SAShnikov had a supply of hammers as a household tool ..
                RS: Wagging and pulling an owl on a globe is a good thing, but ...
      2. +3
        April 17 2020 11: 35
        meticulously noticed! good
    4. +4
      April 17 2020 11: 27
      which previously repeatedly led to negative consequences in the form of imposing restrictive measures on the part of the USA and the EU.

      Clear business, where safety there should be secrets. Only when this prevented the US and the EU from coming up with different restrictions, and there is intelligence for other people's secrets. The main thing, under the guise of secrets, is not to create better conditions for embezzlers.
    5. +10
      April 17 2020 11: 28
      Well, that's right. This is not a topic when everyone should know everything, the concept of military and state secrets has not yet been canceled. This is when they buy cars for millions of people's rubles for themselves, or gold toilet lids, people should see their "heroes", but not here. Long ago it was time to adopt such a law.
      1. +5
        April 17 2020 11: 33
        So they will buy only call it all state secret in the interests of defense
      2. +9
        April 17 2020 11: 36
        they buy cars for millions of people’s rubles, or gold covers for toilets,

        it will be so, only in secret ....
    6. +2
      April 17 2020 11: 35
      Will it help? Information flows from the most, most closed spheres and this is the current reality.
      We'll see.
      1. +3
        April 17 2020 11: 42
        Naturally help corrupt officials get away from punishment. But the US and the EU will not give a damn anyway, they will come up with another reason for sanctions
        1. 0
          April 17 2020 11: 52
          I wanted to add that reducing the number of controllers to a minimum is a dubious decision in our current situation!
          But, to close a hole in the information on SOME topics seems to be quite reasonable. All that remains is to hope for the quality work of those supervisors who are allowed.
          Boom hope but .....
          1. +2
            April 17 2020 11: 54
            So what damage does this information cause? And what benefit does her openness bring?
            Compare these options.
            1. +1
              April 17 2020 12: 06
              Subjectively, on the fingers to show / calculate .... I do not want to. Too everything is tied to emotions.
              Objectively evaluate, this must be strongly, much understood.
              They stole earlier, they will steal further ...
              Control by the public has a positive effect, sometimes thieves are caught and planted only because facts break out into the public field! Collateral system collapses! This is already obvious to everyone.
              But there are topics that should not be released, it is also obvious. By the way, there are not so many of them.
              The question is, could we expect it from the acting "servants of the people" and their "associates" ??? They hacked down a vital amendment for the country, about their wishes, deeds and other foreign passports / citizenship !!!
              After that, the rest of the amendments became NOT INTERESCENT to me!
              These are our "servants of the people" and others like them!
              1. +1
                April 17 2020 13: 15
                I agree with you in your comment — for me it’s necessary to move on to the tactics of the early Bolsheviks — the creation of primary (kitchen) cells, the gradual withdrawal of general ideas and methods, after uniting into a single party and through strikes and other things, ensuring that the voice of the population is finally heard — Enough already. We are tired
                1. 0
                  April 17 2020 14: 55
                  Everyone was reminded of what was taught before, and those who were late to read Soviet textbooks. Everything was described there.
                  And everyone, finally, remember the common truth that only in unity is our strength! For working people, only one option is to achieve something. COUNTRY PROLETARIES UNITE.
                  After all, there are well-formed groups of people who are following a course towards creating a more just society. They, so far, are small and have not taken shape in full-fledged parties or something like that. And they won’t be able to, because the rich were against them in earnest, and EVERYTHING, because they are primitive opponents of the power of the rich! Without the support of the masses, they will not have development.
                  Something like this with us now. And what will happen next is not at all obvious.
                  1. 0
                    April 17 2020 15: 00
                    Water does not flow beneath a lying stone. Once you have to start, you need to. A lot of very many people are dissatisfied (so to speak gently) and while molecularization is being promoted and the separation of the unity of society, the grandfather will not budge like the country as a whole. It’s time to do something, and this bootlegger with the virus can be very helpful in this matter.
                    1. 0
                      April 17 2020 15: 14
                      I agree, the time is certainly alarming, but you can devote a bit of free time to sort it out, look around and look for those who are close to us according to their wishes and desires.
                      The Leningrad Political School is a very interesting phenomenon in this regard. The city of two Revolutions, this is already a sign, an anchor for which you can catch.
                      They press, knock them on "black", this is already an indicator that there is something serious, dangerous to the current power of the rich. Another indicator that they are afraid of quietly with them, do not want to do unnecessary advertising for them.
                      Because the public fuss around many "oppositionists" is a complete bullshit! They are just not dangerous to the system!
                  2. +2
                    April 17 2020 15: 04
                    Quote: rocket757
                    And everyone, finally, remember the common truth that only in unity is our strength! For working people, only one option is to achieve something. COUNTRY PROLETARIES UNITE.

                    Only in this way Viktor, all the rest is talk .. Squeeze out the oligarchy gradually from Russia and again engage in nationalization, I would certainly like without revolutions and blood ..
                    1. -1
                      April 17 2020 15: 22
                      It all starts with a consolidated labor movement, always and everywhere!
                      Worker, these are all working people who themselves earn their daily bread!
                      For the rich, only this poses a real danger.
                      I propose to pay attention to the Leningrad political "school". Only with them, so far, at least something turns out realistically and it is a pity that it has not received, so far, distribution, support throughout the country.
                      There you can go through an educational program on the basics and other things that we now need.
                      Something like this. And then everyone decides for himself what is closer to him, he needs now.
                      1. +1
                        April 17 2020 16: 03
                        Quote: rocket757
                        It all starts with a consolidated labor movement, always and everywhere!
                        Worker, these are all working people who themselves earn their daily bread!
                        For the rich, only this poses a real danger.

                        And we actually do not have this in Russia .. Well, the Communist Party has become a pocket party of power (although I have always voted for it) Zyuganov needs to be driven ...
                        It's time to sing the International again in Russia and act "We are ours, we will build a new world .."
                        And Putin is terribly afraid of something and these half measures of him, they only began to annoy the people .. hi
                        1. +1
                          April 17 2020 16: 14
                          What has long been visible has long since faded.
                          What is hidden in the cracks is simply not interesting.
                          It is necessary to search, and having found, carefully look, check! Those. you must choose consciously.
                        2. 0
                          April 17 2020 17: 11
                          Quote: rocket757
                          What has long been visible has long since faded.
                          What is hidden in the cracks is simply not interesting.
                          It is necessary to search, and having found, carefully look, check! Those. you must choose consciously.

                          Very filosovsky Victor .. I understood you and thought hi
                          Now the lie rules the world and the worst thing is that it affects the souls of our children and grandchildren and it’s very difficult to fight it .. But we won’t die alive when it was easy for us in Russia.
                        3. +1
                          April 17 2020 17: 40
                          Life experience, it’s right .... it reminds that not all that glitters is gold!
                          New leaders appear constantly, the majority also constantly disappear from the political arena without even realizing that, among other things, people have learned to judge by business!
                          It is clear that those who are especially close have many more opportunities, but if you are a LEADER, with a capital letter, this will not stop you. By deeds it is necessary to prove that you are worthy, and the rest will be completed by human rumor. The fact that the leader is also doing his "retinue", comrades-in-arms, that is, it is not invented today!
                          Again, the retinue will be evaluated by deeds, and not by posts on the internet!
                          Our current government has settled on the country firmly and for a long time. To make a storm in a glass, that is, in the internet, you will not achieve anything substantial!
                        4. 0
                          April 17 2020 20: 02
                          Quote: rocket757
                          Life experience, it’s right .... it reminds that not all that glitters is gold!
                          New leaders appear constantly, the majority also constantly disappear from the political arena without even realizing that, among other things, people have learned to judge by business!

                          Life experience is a great thing, it's only too late to understand when something went wrong .. hi
                          And now it’s hard for the younger generation to explain so that they understand where these demons lead them .. But you still need to try

                          Quote: rocket757
                          Our current government has settled on the country firmly and for a long time. To make a storm in a glass, that is, in the internet, you will not achieve anything substantial!

                          That's right .. And yet you can’t give up, there they have bred, as if your whole song is sung ..
                          But I do not believe yet! soldier

                          And damn us not a brother .. drinks
                        5. +1
                          April 17 2020 21: 17
                          Wait and see. Nothing is finished, while our armored train is still on the siding.
                          To the best of our ability we will prepare for him a commander, engineer and the whole crew!
                        6. 0
                          April 17 2020 21: 26
                          Quote: rocket757
                          Wait and see.

                          I think so too ..
                          Quote: rocket757
                          Nothing is finished, while our armored train is still on the siding.
                          To the best of our ability we will prepare for him a commander, engineer and the whole crew!

                          I understand you Victor !!!! That is what we live in, there is still gunpowder in the powder kits ..
                          Steel generation, do not just bend! We just know a lot ..
                        7. +1
                          April 17 2020 21: 29
                          The knowledge of all, not only then, in order to use it, must be given, taught. And then it turns out that life was not lived in vain.
              2. +1
                April 17 2020 14: 13
                Quote: rocket757
                there are topics that are not worth releasing, this is also obvious. By the way, there are not many of them
                Yeah! Let’s only keep these topics secret: so that the military intelligence of the likely enemy is less soared, we’ll put the pointers.
                1. 0
                  April 17 2020 14: 58
                  Ha, and our counterintelligence what will do at this time? Puzo warm in the sun?
                  So always and everywhere, the constant confrontation of such structures. This is their usual job.
    7. +5
      April 17 2020 11: 51
      Serfs are not supposed to know how much money the state spends on protecting Abramovich’s yachts.
    8. -3
      April 17 2020 11: 51
      And if the West imposes sanctions in this case totally, on all companies of the defense complex that remain outside the sanctions list?
      1. 0
        April 17 2020 16: 05
        Quote: Maas
        And if the West imposes sanctions in this case totally, on all companies of the defense complex that remain outside the sanctions list?

        Yes, it’s faster, maybe Russia will finally wake up from the drug addiction of the West soldier
    9. +1
      April 17 2020 12: 36
      Finally, state secrets and democracy began to sleep in different beds!
    10. 0
      April 17 2020 12: 59
      Too shy to ask... feel
      Tell me, to your mercy, and what, until today, each counter-cross had access to procurement information in the field of state defense order? belay
    11. 0
      April 17 2020 13: 10
      Correctly done, there is nothing for the whole world to show what and how much we buy for the army.
    12. 0
      April 17 2020 13: 12
      Quote: Sayan
      And where does Ukraine? In the article about her not a word, it is about Russia.

      So it’s a plug in every barrel. Well, you can’t live without her!
    13. 0
      April 17 2020 13: 37
      Previously, they just stole a lot, but now they will steal without any hesitation.
      1. 0
        April 17 2020 14: 12
        They do not steal anything anymore - since there is only one wallet and a strict audit that who when where where for how much who.
        1. 0
          April 17 2020 14: 36
          And so the possibility of an extraneous audit is hiding, and how we “conduct” our own audits we all know.
    14. -1
      April 17 2020 14: 15
      Ended Lafa for the CIA .. Because it was a gift, sit analyze the military-industrial complex purchases ..
    15. +1
      April 17 2020 15: 23
      Has anyone read the bill under discussion? What is the difference from current practice? Actually, a substantial part of equipment purchases under the stamp is underway and is now closed.
      1. -1
        April 17 2020 17: 15
        Quote: balabol
        What is the difference from current practice? Actually, a substantial part of equipment purchases under the stamp is underway and is now closed.

        Now we decided to close everything! Too many curious and interested people analyze it all and draw conclusions on what and whom to impose sanctions, etc. I think this is the whole thing and they’re doing it right hi
    16. +1
      April 17 2020 15: 36
      It is high time. Who remembers some who in the United States about ten years ago became heavily burnt on chip purchases. And the horns came out when I bought from the Farschild 242. Through the placement of the state order. Just. Chapman will not let you lie completely.
    17. -1
      April 17 2020 15: 39
      Well, now theft will stop ... or ...
      1. 0
        April 17 2020 17: 16
        Quote: Pvi1206
        Well, now theft will stop ... or ...

        To whom, and a lousy bathhouse .. bully
    18. 0
      April 17 2020 17: 41
      As I understand it on the basis of the documents of the Duma (see https://sozd.duma.gov.ru/bill/711277-7),
      now even the very fact of the purchase will not be visible in the public domain (the content of the tender documents has previously been closed to access).
      In fact, this means that only those companies that prepared these documents for the Moscow Region can participate in the competition.

      .
    19. +1
      April 17 2020 19: 22
      Quote: The same LYOKHA
      The State Duma in the first reading has already discussed this law ... all incomes of a person and his family will fall under a full cap ... shvak case ...

      They are now known. You directly shine with naivety. It's just that such amounts are not particularly interesting to either tax authorities or law enforcement agencies.
      Why is this registry being created, have you read? Share it. Or were you struck by horror and panic and you could not read further?)
    20. 0
      April 18 2020 15: 21
      So, the construction of summer cottages and three-story houses for generals and their entourage according to the mark of fulfilling the GOZ will begin once again ... They have already passed through this stage of secrecy ..
    21. +1
      April 18 2020 20: 50
      What a twist!
      On this occasion, ladies and gentlemen, I personally finish wagging my tongue for orders being built and other events.
      I already spoke in the Human Resources Department for a long language. The other day.

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