“For homo sovieticus, this is unthinkable”: Poland actively comments on Putin’s decision on Victory Parade

“For homo sovieticus, this is unthinkable”: Poland actively comments on Putin’s decision on Victory Parade

The Polish press reacted very actively to yesterday’s decision by Russian President Vladimir Putin to postpone the military parade in honor of the 75th anniversary of the Victory to another date. A whole group of Polish newspapers brought this information to their editorials, and Polish channels also spoke about this.


The materials were published in such large media in Poland as Gazeta Wyborcza, TVN24, Onet, Euractiv Poland, Forsal, PAP, Do Rzeczy, etc.

So, TVN24 reports that in Russia it is necessary to cancel preparations for the parade for almost 15 thousand military personnel. At the same time, a quote is given by the President of Russia, who noted that the date of May 9 is sacred, like the life of every citizen of the country.

The Polish media decided to recall that many foreign leaders had previously been invited to the Victory Parade in Moscow. In particular, they remembered those who had previously expressed their willingness to fly to the Russian capital - for example, French President Emmanuel Macron and Czech President Milos Zeman. But, as they write in Poland, the Czech president "recently reacted harshly to the initiation of a criminal case in Russia to demolish the monument to Soviet Marshal Konev, calling it similar to interference in the internal affairs of the Czech Republic."

In the publication Onet drew attention to the fact that the President of Russia "left open the date of the military parade."

No less active is Putin’s decision commented on by Polish readers. Here are a few comments from readers of the Polish media.

Well, what has the opportunity to save a few rubles in a crisis.

Actually, Putin’s decision is reasonable. But for many living homo sovieticus, this is an unthinkable thing that causes anxiety and fear. The king has always been stronger than God. And now the king is inferior to a small virus. For Russians, it is unacceptable that something so tiny would determine their fate and make them forget about life.



At the same time, not a single Polish publication said a word about how many Soviet soldiers laid their heads for the liberation of Poland from Nazism. Short memory? ..

But the trolls managed to be noted:
No no! In no case! We need to hold the biggest parade in the Galaxy again!

What a pity. I am so disappointed ...
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  1. Yurahip April 17 2020 09: 26 New
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    Victory Parade should be held in Warsaw.
    1. bzbo April 17 2020 09: 30 New
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      Joint with Germany))) On the day of the partition of Poland
      1. novel66 April 17 2020 09: 33 New
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        good joke .... not everyone will understand
        1. bondrostov April 17 2020 09: 48 New
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          Now they’ll agree that we will hold a parade in Warsaw on September 22nd.
          1. Krasnoyarsk April 17 2020 10: 23 New
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            Quote: bondrostov
            Now they’ll agree that we will hold a parade in Warsaw on September 22nd.

            And it is you who will command this parade. laughing lying on the couch.
            1. Shurik70 April 17 2020 22: 48 New
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              Actually, the agreement was signed, like, September 29th?
              Indeed, a good date for the parade.
              There is already no summer heat, and the autumn rains did not begin.
              The Germans must be invited.
          2. Roman1970_1 April 18 2020 00: 55 New
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            Now they’ll agree that we will hold a parade in Warsaw on September 22nd.

            Who are "we?
            Those who will give a visa?
            1. ser15101972 April 18 2020 18: 16 New
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              We will do without visas unilaterally !!!
        2. Looking for April 17 2020 15: 21 New
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          THIS IS THEIR PROBLEMS.
        3. Oden280 April 17 2020 18: 21 New
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          In every joke there is only a fraction of the joke. In this case, quite small.
        4. vik669 April 19 2020 07: 17 New
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          Not all Poles or something - and who will ask them will be!
      2. valdemarvar April 17 2020 09: 54 New
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        and then continue to celebrate with a parade in Brest.
        1. Pereira April 17 2020 10: 35 New
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          Not this way. Moscow - Brest - Warsaw - Berlin - Paris.
        2. ROSS_51 April 17 2020 10: 46 New
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          Quote: valdemarvar
          and then continue to celebrate with a parade in Brest.

          In Brest? Read the memoirs of Guderian. In our history this fact is somehow not advertised, but Guderian very much complained that the Brest Fortress had to be given so quickly in the 39th Red Army, by order from above, that the Germans did not even manage to take out supplies from the warehouses.
          1. valdemarvar April 17 2020 10: 58 New
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            it was an incorrect joke that not everyone understood on the second comment from above, I mean, on September 1, 1939, the troops of Nazi Germany invaded Poland from the west, and on September 17, 1939, Soviet troops entered Poland from the east. The country could not fight on two fronts. Its division of the Wehrmacht and parts of the Red Army was celebrated by a joint parade in Brest. Sincerely.
            1. ROSS_51 April 17 2020 11: 39 New
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              Quote: valdemarvar
              Its division of the Wehrmacht and parts of the Red Army was celebrated by a joint parade in Brest. Sincerely.

              I understood. By the way, about the joint parade was not in the know. I’ll look for documents. Thank.
              1. Pereira April 17 2020 12: 38 New
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                I understood. By the way, about the joint parade was not in the know. I’ll look for documents. Thank.

                Look for it. Only this is a fake foreman of adjustment.
                1. podymych April 19 2020 08: 42 New
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                  Exactly!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
                  https://topwar.ru/162926-1939-j-jetot-gorod-nazyvaetsja-lvov-a-ne-lemberg.html
            2. reservist April 17 2020 12: 23 New
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              Quote: valdemarvar
              ... On September 17, 1939, Soviet troops entered Poland from the east. The country could not fight on two fronts. Its division of the Wehrmacht and parts of the Red Army was celebrated by a joint parade in Brest.

              there is an opinion that the transfer of the city of Brest by Guderian to the brigade commander Krivoshein on a joint "does not pull" ...
              1. valdemarvar April 17 2020 13: 05 New
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                Perhaps it was so, it is more likely that it will not be possible to establish the truth, and many documents are not declassified, but it can be interpreted differently, the topic is so sensitive for historians, Russian historian Oleg Vishlev believes that the ceremonial transfer of Brest was not a parade, as it describes The Red Army’s combatant charter of 1938, but was a “ceremonial withdrawal of German troops under the supervision of Soviet representatives," again, how to look, there wasn’t a joint passage between the Red Army and the Wehrmacht, but at the same time the 29th separate tank brigade participated without passing. It seems to me if you don’t participate in the parade but are present at the same time, it’s all the same participation in the parade, albeit indirect, again interpretation, although maybe I'm wrong. Thanks for the stuff.
                1. Pereira April 17 2020 13: 10 New
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                  In any case, we should all understand that this topic is being developed in order to remove responsibility from WWII from Europe and lay it on Russia. Therefore, speaking of an impassive consideration of facts by the democratic public is naive.
                2. reservist April 17 2020 13: 31 New
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                  I agree that there are at least two interpretations of this event:
                  German: there was a parade on the occasion of the victory in Poland
                  Soviet: the Red Army took the city of Brest from the Wehrmacht

                  in this video there will be more links to documents of that time ...

                  I’m looking at one Krivoshein surrounded by Germans and somehow there is no sensation of participation of the Red Army units in the German parade ...
                  Well, Guderian wanted to show off, he missed the breakthrough of the Polish garrison from the Brest Fortress, he was ordered from the city to quickly get out, so now at least a parade should be held ...
                  Krivoshein, did not send him to hell, he showed courtesy, stood next to him, waved a hand after leaving the Germans ...
                  1. podymych April 19 2020 08: 41 New
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                    Read IN
                    https://topwar.ru/162926-1939-j-jetot-gorod-nazyvaetsja-lvov-a-ne-lemberg.html
                    1. reservist April 20 2020 12: 15 New
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                      Thanks, read
                      in the comments there are links to the article of the commander of the 6th Army F.I. Golikov in the Military History Journal for 1959 and on a fragment of the book Soviet-Polish Wars. Political-Military Confrontation 1918-1939. Doctors of historical sciences M.I. Meltiuhova that, imho, the article itself will be more interesting ...
            3. On September 17, the Polish government fled abroad. Anarchy reigned in Poland. Red Army troops entered Poland (Western Belarus) without a single shot, welcomed by the population. There was no talk of any battles on two fronts. By September 17, the offensive of Germany had already ended with Poland.
            4. Okolotochny April 17 2020 12: 26 New
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              Are you sure that it was precisely the PARADE and it was JOINT? It is believed that this was the procedure for the transfer of the city by the Germans to us.
            5. Pereira April 17 2020 12: 37 New
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              Yes, this is an incorrect joke. There was no joint parade. There was a withdrawal of German troops, which waved the handle Krivoshein.
              I believed that this Goebbels fake had long died, rotten and decayed. However, you go!
              But to hold a joint parade on the ruins of Warsaw, it would be nice. The Psheks are again sickened by all their neighbors.
              1. reservist April 17 2020 13: 52 New
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                Quote: Pereira
                The Psheks are again sickened by all their neighbors.

                again?
                1. Pereira April 17 2020 14: 03 New
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                  Yes. This was the first time that the neighbors decided to get rid of the power of schizophrenics.
                  Then they were sickened in 1938 and in 39 England with France breathed a sigh of relief.
                  Once again - now.
                  1. noct April 17 2020 19: 32 New
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                    In the words of Churchill Poland, the hyena of Europe.
            6. Senior seaman April 17 2020 16: 20 New
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              When the Red Army entered Poland, it practically did not resist, and even its government was interned in Romania. So there was no “two fronts”. As, by the way, and a joint parade.
              Just a parade - was. But ours only watched from the side as the Germans march.
      3. My doctor April 17 2020 17: 41 New
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        Quote: bzbo
        Joint with Germany))) On the day of the partition of Poland

        You specifically watched so no one even understood?
        The joint parade of the Wehrmacht and the Red Army was in Brest on September 21, 1939. In general, everything that preceded this event allowed the West to accuse the USSR of an agreement to start the Second World War.
        1. Charik April 18 2020 14: 56 New
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          and in the West, I don’t know that grandfather Bush supplied dough
          1. My doctor April 18 2020 15: 07 New
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            Quote: Charik
            and in the West, I don’t know that grandfather Bush supplied dough

            What loot? What are you talking about? The USA was depressed and their dollar did not have the same status as now.
            1. Charik April 18 2020 16: 37 New
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              Coursing for the prescott of Bush who helped the fascists with all they could and connections and loot and resources, as well as some wealthy Jews and British, including
      4. LeonidL April 17 2020 20: 23 New
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        Which one? Can take the dates of all four?
      5. kieferandreas April 18 2020 13: 08 New
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    2. Malyuta April 17 2020 09: 31 New
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      Why pay attention to some Poles, because the Victory is ours and our business, how to celebrate and with whom.
      1. Piramidon April 17 2020 10: 04 New
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        Quote: Malyuta
        Why pay attention to some Poles, because the Victory is ours and our business, how to celebrate and with whom.

        Our people will celebrate Victory Day on May 9, no matter what. Victory Day of the Soviet Union over Nazi Germany in the Great Patriotic War was and remains one of the most revered holidays among the people both in Russia and in the former republics of the USSR. The main thing is that the holiday and memory of the Great Victory be in the soul and heart. Well, a parade is only one of the attributes of a holiday. After all, after the very first Victory Parade on June 24, 1945, parades were not held for 20 years. But people in spite of this celebrated this day every year.
        1. Malyuta April 17 2020 10: 12 New
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          Quote: Piramidon
          Our people will celebrate Victory Day on May 9, no matter what. Victory Day of the Soviet Union over fascist Germany in the Great Patriotic War was and remains one of the most revered holidays both in Russia and in the former republics of the USSR.

          I completely agree with you and for me, practically nothing will change, I will take the Red Banner just like always and go with the children to lay flowers at the Obelisk to the fallen Warriors, then we will hold our Immortal Regiment, Parade and, as usual, Salute, good from which we will salute.
      2. Krasnoyarsk April 17 2020 10: 35 New
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        Quote: Malyuta
        Why pay attention to some Poles, because the Victory is ours and our business, how to celebrate and with whom.

        I, too, always wonder at the reaction of our colleagues on the site. Well blurted out a stupid Pole something and what? A dog for that and a dog to bark.
        We will celebrate on May 9 as it should be - we will remember everyone and thank you, every family has someone to remember. We will thank everyone from the ordinary to the generalissimo. And the parade ... anyway, it will be. It's okay, that is not May 9th. And in June, and in September, and in November - all worthy dates.
      3. Overlock April 17 2020 10: 37 New
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        Quote: Malyuta
        Our victory and our business

        Victory Day should be in the soul of a MAN! Either this day is, or not. Indeed, for many, May 9 is not Victory Day (take the same Ukraine).
        And you can celebrate this day, regardless of the attribute of this day, the Parade. To expose the health and life of our soldiers in peacetime is completely superfluous. And the parade will be, no doubt, and rightly so
    3. prior April 17 2020 09: 33 New
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      I support the transfer of the Victory Parade to Warsaw.
      But to conduct it not with ceremonial calculations, but with units of the military branches of the army.
      And let the Poles calm down, well, or calm down ..
      1. da Vinci April 17 2020 09: 51 New
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        And why the Poles?
      2. abrakadabre April 17 2020 10: 32 New
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        I support the transfer of the Victory Parade to Warsaw.
        I agree with both hands.
        But to conduct it not with ceremonial calculations, but with units of the military branches of the army.
        Involved in the release of this ungrateful зeat.
      3. Overlock April 17 2020 10: 41 New
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        Quote: prior
        I support the transfer of the Victory Parade to Warsaw.

        tell me. and what do you reasonable suggest? Show your dreams and militancy, isolation from the realities of the day? It seems serious people, and amuse yourself like small children.
    4. Olgovich April 17 2020 09: 33 New
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      Quote: Jurachip
      Victory Parade should be held.

      We will spend in Moscow when we see fit.


      З
      atoms trolls managed to be noted:
      No no! In no case! We need to hold the biggest parade in the Galaxy again!

      What a pity. I am so disappointed ...


      Sick people .... incurably, alas ....
      1. Fitter65 April 17 2020 09: 47 New
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        We will spend in Moscow when we see fit.

        No matter how when I agree with you.
      2. Pereira April 17 2020 10: 37 New
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        Why are they sick? This is really a great event. They do not have this and never will be. Maybe they watch every year, they’re used to it.
      3. Egoza April 17 2020 10: 38 New
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        Quote: Olgovich
        We will spend in Moscow when we see fit.

        And we will spend it on May 9 on-line, then, after live quarantine, and you can walk around European cities in honor of the holiday! And what? Merkel invited us!
        1. Olgovich April 17 2020 10: 41 New
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          Quote: Egoza
          And we will spend it on May 9 online, then, after live quarantine

          Certainly.

          But on the 9th of May I’ll go to the Memorial to the Fallen with flowers, in spite of any prohibitions.
    5. Finches April 17 2020 09: 34 New
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      Adequately comment on the Russophobic nonsense of the Poles - who, in their hatred of Russia, bypass even the Anglo-Saxons, do not respect yourself! The Poles were very lucky that the most humane Suvorov suppressed the Warsaw Uprising .... It was lucky that at that time there were no Stolypin cars and Joseph Vissarionovich ... Susanin is the first who, in the centuries-old wisdom of the Russian people, understood how to deal with the Poles in order to avoid future problems! laughing
      1. Piramidon April 17 2020 10: 17 New
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        Quote: Finches
        Adequately comment on the Russophobic nonsense of the Poles - who, in their hatred of Russia, bypass even the Anglo-Saxons, don't respect yourself!

        That's right. This is the same if in response to the barking of a yard mongrel bark at her.
      2. Egoza April 17 2020 10: 39 New
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        Quote: Finches
        Susanin is the first who, in the centuries-old wisdom of the Russian people, understood how to deal with the Poles in order to avoid future problems!

        Come on! They Ukrainian Bandera better throw. Let them do it!
        1. Curbstone xnumx April 18 2020 06: 56 New
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          Bandera at the sight of the Poles, immediately put in pants and dutifully go to scrub panam toilets
      3. Pereira April 17 2020 10: 39 New
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        The Poles were very lucky that the most humane Suvorov suppressed the Warsaw Uprising ....

        I would like to call Suvorov at the time of preparing the assault on Prague and tell how the Poles thanked him for his humanism.
        1. reservist April 17 2020 12: 36 New
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          Before the assault on Prague, there was the Warsaw Matins ...

          Prague under Suvorov seemed to be stormed by the very regiments which, at the beginning of the uprising, the Poles “humanely” slaughtered unarmed in the Orthodox churches during the morning service on the eve of Easter ...
          but unfortunately for the Poles, not everyone was cut out ...
          1. Sklendarka April 17 2020 12: 53 New
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            And exactly Prague in Poland? or is my globe lying to me?
            1. reservist April 17 2020 13: 08 New
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              in addition to Czech Prague, there is a suburb of Warsaw with the same name, the assault of which the Poles still cannot forget ...
          2. Pereira April 17 2020 13: 13 New
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            Remembering the Warsaw dawn is not tolerant.
            1. reservist April 17 2020 13: 48 New
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              yes, not tolerant, but I was wondering how it happened that the Poles are still rooting at the mention of Suvorov ...
              1. Pereira April 17 2020 14: 00 New
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                They always considered themselves incredibly cool. Suvorov himself praised the fortifications of Prague above the Ishmaels. I am sure that the Poles have already prepared champagne and a rope that will be used to knit Suvorov. But it did not work out. However, as usual.
      4. Overlock April 17 2020 10: 42 New
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        Quote: Finches
        don't respect yourself

        that's it! Dogs bark, the caravan goes
      5. reservist April 17 2020 13: 00 New
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        Quote: Finches
        Susanin - the first who, in the age-old wisdom of the Russian people, understood how to deal with the Poles ...

        But what about Posadsky Kozma Minin and Prince Dmitry Pozharsky, with the militia, who drove the Poles out of Kitai Gorod in 1612?

        the Poles tried to capture Tsar Mikhail Romanov, already appointed by the Zemsky Cathedral, in the winter of 1613, when the Poles and the patrimonial elder Ivan Susanin were "mobilized" ...
    6. smart ass April 17 2020 10: 01 New
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      Poles are so enraged because usually other countries hold parades on their land)))) And sometimes 2 countries at once !!)
      1. Sky strike fighter April 17 2020 10: 08 New
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        Someone generally interested in the opinion of the Poles on this issue? Let's still ask what they think about it somewhere in Zimbabwe.
    7. den3080 April 17 2020 10: 20 New
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      Quote: Jurachip
      Victory Parade should be held in Warsaw.

      for homo pilsudchikus lizoanalus amerikancas postponement of the Victory Day parade in Russia is a balm for the soul.
      they will send for a long time about this.
    8. Civil April 17 2020 10: 41 New
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      The living are still fighting dead.
    9. Paul Siebert April 17 2020 10: 46 New
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      Yesterday I read the London Daily News.
      On the front page, brave English border guards report that they detained a Polish truck with medical masks in the Eurotunnel, among which 60 pounds of drugs were found. Something about thirty kilograms.
      All over England there was a commotion.
      The behavior of the Polish allies is recognized as "repulsive" and "cynical."
      And do these people teach us morality?
      Fear God, psheki!
      If not for us, you would speak German now. And the Third Reich would be hated as fiercely as Russia is now.
      The eternal position of the vile slave ...
    10. NordUral April 17 2020 19: 01 New
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      And what the hell? interrupted, noisy descendants of the gentry.
  2. sanik2020 April 17 2020 09: 31 New
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    They comment on everything and everything, only they don’t know how to do anything.
    The Polish press does not have such a reputation in order to pay attention to it.
    1. lucul April 17 2020 09: 57 New
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      They comment on everything and everything, only they don’t know how to do anything.
      The Polish press does not have such a reputation in order to pay attention to it.

      Do you think there are Poles in the comments? )))
      Yes, there are trolls on a salary, one-on-one comments with our opponents ...
  3. knn54 April 17 2020 09: 37 New
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    A little off topic. November 19 is the Day of Missile Forces and Artillery in Russia. In the West, World Toilet Day.
    An accident?
  4. Same lech April 17 2020 09: 38 New
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    And why did the Poles get so excited ... this is our parade ... what they care about.
    This is our Red Army, led by Generalissimo Stalin, who liberated Warsaw from the Nazis and took Berlin, forcing Hitler to take cyanide ... Poland’s modern political elite shrinks this toothache.
  5. Roman123567 April 17 2020 09: 40 New
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    I don’t understand where there is so much noise in this parade ..
    Well, it’s understandable that in such conditions he wouldn’t exist .. without Putin’s decision it was clear .. In his decision the main thing is completely different - that the “isolation” will continue in May !!
    And the parade will be in a year, that's okay ..
    But to transfer it, and spend it on another day - I think this is absurd, and populism .. As someone already correctly noted - it is equivalent to what to postpone the New Year, and put the yolk in March ..
    The people already remember about May 9, and they will celebrate everything to themselves, and if only Putin would cling to other people's victories and shout “we can repeat” .. Although, if this happens again, the people will definitely be on one side of the barricades with him !!
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  6. Million April 17 2020 09: 41 New
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    Again, the pug barks at the elephant
  7. demo April 17 2020 09: 57 New
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    Actually, Putin’s decision is reasonable. But for many living homo sovieticus, this is an unthinkable thing that causes anxiety and fear. The king has always been stronger than God. And now the king is inferior to a small virus. For Russians, it is unacceptable that something so tiny would determine their fate and make them forget about life.

    The Pole’s head is so small that there’s practically no brain.
    Therefore, such an idiotic conclusion makes.
    For a Russian, there is no one above God.
    And neither the king nor the hero will replace the Almighty.
    1. tihonmarine April 17 2020 10: 22 New
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      Quote: demo
      But for many living homo sovieticus, this is an unthinkable thing that causes anxiety and fear.

      For all Soviet people, everything is perfectly clear, and is perceived with understanding. We can celebrate Victory Day and June 24, just as our grandfathers and fathers celebrated, throw at the foot of the Movzoley, the banner of the vanquished. But now, not concern, but wild fear is in the eyes of former "friends" but now traitors. And you remember that the retribution will come, as it came in 1940, with us "Not rusting"
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  9. Mountain shooter April 17 2020 10: 04 New
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    The Poles lagged behind a whole generation ... And there is nothing to comment on ...
  10. Chaldon48 April 17 2020 10: 07 New
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    Our president showed himself to be a real host, he wanted to postpone the parade for another term and will make you have no doubt.
  11. tihonmarine April 17 2020 10: 09 New
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    The king has always been stronger than God. And now the king is inferior to a small virus.

    Well, let's see "panovoe", laughs the one who laughs last. You laughed and rejoiced when the Riga Peace Treaty was signed on March 18.03.1921, 1. The Soviet side agreed to return military trophies to the Republic of Poland, all scientific and cultural values ​​exported from the territory of the Kingdom of Poland starting January 1772, 30, and also pledged to pay Poland 18 million gold rubles for the contribution of the Kingdom of Poland to the economic life of the Russian Empire and transfer Polish side of the property in the amount of XNUMX million gold rubles, that is, to pay de facto reparations. It was just greyhound but for her Poland had to pay a lot and cry a lot, and still crying. So there is no need to rejoice and laugh at Russia, otherwise you will have to cry again, or maybe sob.
    1. Cyril G ... April 18 2020 12: 54 New
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      Cried a little. Our so-called allies in the lands they occupied carried out denazification after the end of WWII. But we did not carry out a similar process in Poland and Western Ukraine. It is necessary to learn the lessons from the lessons of history
  12. Karaul15 April 17 2020 10: 14 New
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    What modern thieves in Russia is doing is trying to seem like the Soviet Union, playing on the psyche and nostalgia of the people, nothing more. Statements by the oligarchs about sanctions and 125 grams of bread per day are generally on the verge of absurdity, but it works. So the very fact of the purpose for which this parade is being held already discredits its honor, therefore it is even better if there is no parade.
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      therefore, it is even better if there is no parade.

      As your audience, the victory of the USSR in World War II flatters ...
      And even more, it is the unwillingness of the inhabitants of Russia to forget about this victory. And repent, repent, repent.
      1. Roman123567 April 17 2020 10: 37 New
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        For starters, I would learn to read and understand the meaning ..
        A man writes in Russian letters - "modern thieves' Russian power - so it tries to seem like the Soviet Union, playing on the psyche and nostalgia of the people"
        And then you - "the victory of the USSR in World War II"
        No one is against the Victory of the USSR !! And no one is going to forget about her !! (even regardless of whether it will be written in the Constitution or not)
        Just try to read again what was discussed .. without the psyche ..
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          For starters, I would learn to read and understand the meaning ..

          Exactly. Try it, it suddenly turns out

          Quote: Roman123567
          The man writes in Russian letters - "modern thieves' Russian power

          This type of behavior in Russia has long been marked by a proverb. "To spite my mother-in-law frostbite"

          Quote: Roman123567
          No one is against the Victory of the USSR !! And no one is going to forget about her !!

          To begin with, I would learn to read and understand the meaning .. (c)
          What is incomprehensible to you in the phrase "So the very fact of why this parade is being held already discredits its honor, therefore it is even better if there will be no parade."

          For those who have a problem with Russian. According to a propagandist from Ukraine, the May 9 parade is held in order to "modern Russian thieves to play on the psyche and nostalgia of the people"
          Not because there is pride in grandfathers and great-grandfathers. Not because May 9 is Victory Day.

          And therefore, for the Ukrainian propagandist, the absence of a parade is good. They re-evaluate the Great Patriotic War there, the cornerstone of ideology.

          As for you, apparently. If you so zealously defend this strange opinion
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            Blah blah blah .. Sayings, ears .. To spite, from whom to spite .. Anyhow blurt out ..

            So the very fact of the purpose of this parade is already discrediting his honor
            99% it is !!
            The Germans can also hold the parade in Germany .. and the Dutch in the red light district ..
            The key is for what purpose !!
            And with what (in fact, most people already understand it), if someone doesn’t understand, “he’s trying to seem like the Soviet Union, playing on the psyche and nostalgia of the people, nothing more. The statements of the oligarchs about sanctions and 125 grams of bread per day are generally on the verge of absurdity, but works."


            Or someone has the illusion that these crooks are raising pennies. age, paying beggarly pensions, and dreaming that now the rest should live on 125 grams of bread - are really touched by that Victory ??
            That you can be touched .. and my tears are welling up (I'm sure that the author of the post is also higher) when I go around the city, listen to those songs, and look at those veterans .. But has this ever stopped thieves ?? For a thief to get into a bag with a girl or grandmother - is there any difference ??
            So all this action (performed by those against whom the Red Army fought at one time) is nothing more than populism ..

            And I didn’t understand, and what are some Ukrainian propagandists here .. Solovyov has settled in your head or something ..


            revaluation of the Great Patriotic War is the cornerstone of ideology.


            Let’s nevertheless read it together again and in syllables .. For I point blank do not see any rethinking here ..

            modern thieves' Russian power - so it tries to seem like the Soviet Union

            Truth?? Truth..

            playing on the psyche and nostalgia of the people, nothing more.
            Truth?? Truth..

            Statements by the oligarchs about sanctions and 125 grams of bread per day are generally on the verge of absurdity, but it works.


            Truth?? What a truth !!

            the fact for what purpose this parade is being held, already defames his honor,

            And again the truth is true !!
            I don’t know in whose sick imagination it was born that it was some Ukrainian. The propagandist wrote .. But for some reason he writes about HONOR !! About the fact that the honor of the Parade is discredited by those who have now seized power in our country !! Or those Wars fought for this ?? I’m silent about Stalin .. but with him, after all, millions of soldiers turn over in their graves looking at those who are now in power ..
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              I don’t know in whose sick imagination it was born that it’s some Ukrainian
              He has corresponded with me on this site more than once, I think my point of view and yours will not coincide is 100%. I am really from Ukraine and today I do not support Russia, to put it mildly. But this does not mean that I can not write the truth?
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                Well .. I’m from Russia .. but I also don’t support Russia ..
                At least - in key areas today !!
                But this does not mean that I am against Russia in general .. As is commonly believed by some .. If you didn’t do it, then the State Department agent ..))
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              The key is for what purpose !!
              And with what (in fact, most people already understand it), if someone does not understand - "trying to seem like the Soviet Union, playing on the psyche and nostalgia of the people, nothing more.
              Pancake.
              And it flattens you from the fact that in Russia they celebrate May 9?
              Are you ready to spit on your own grandfathers and great-grandfathers, so that the "thieves' power of the aggressor state" would not "try to seem like the Soviet Union"?
              Or were your ancestors on the right side? UPA?

              Quote: Roman123567
              Let’s nevertheless read it together again and in syllables .. For I point blank do not see any rethinking here ..

              Naturally you do not see. Apparently, this work is ..

              Quote: Roman123567
              I don’t know in whose sick imagination it was born that it’s some Ukrainian. The propagandist wrote ..

              Protecting an inexperienced colleague?
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                And it flattens you from the fact that in Russia they celebrate May 9?
                Ready to spit on your own grandfathers and great-grandfathers,

                In the elderberry garden ..

                Let me also write then that it flattens you from the fact that in Russia they celebrate May 9 .. And that you are ready to spit on your own grandfathers .. Or maybe even they were on the side of the UPA ..
                You still don’t read what I’m writing ..

                Protecting an inexperienced colleague?

                I have no idea what sphere he is working in, and I don’t want to know .. But in terms of reasoning and common sense, he has more experience than you do .. This is what I “defend” ..
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                  Let me also write then that it flattens you from the fact that in Russia they celebrate May 9 ..

                  Write it.
                  I do not mind.

                  Quote: Roman123567
                  You still don’t read what I’m writing ..

                  Even as I read. I liked it the most
                  "I'm from Russia .. but I also do not support Russia ..". It is "Russia" ...


                  Quote: Roman123567
                  I have no idea what field he is working in.

                  laughing
                  Even the fool can be turned on and it really doesn’t work out ... Well, which of you is an "agent of the State Department"
                  laughing
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                    I liked it the most
                    "I’m from Russia .. but I also don’t support Russia ..
                    At least - in key areas today !!
                    But this does not mean that I am against Russia in general .. As is commonly believed by some .. If you didn’t do it, then the State Department agent ..)) "...

                    I also liked it .. that's why I wrote .. For today there is no order in the country, and the government is anti-people .. And to support the direction we are moving in is to be an enemy both for the country and for our compatriots ..

                    Even the fool can be turned on and it really doesn’t work out ... Well, which of you is an "agent of the State Department"
                    But in some cases you don’t have to turn it on ..
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                      For today in the country there is no order, and the government is anti-people ..

                      Yes, stop flirting.
                      You were completely liberal, denouncing "authoritarian power"
                      After the annexation of Crimea, all the wretchedness of this line became clear.
                      And your audience suddenly completely became "real patriots, unlike the idiots"

                      But it doesn’t matter that you chat there. It does not matter what kind of power there is, thieves, authoritarian or anti-people.
                      For all of you, the main thing is "I'm from Russia .. but I also do not support Russia ..". Not "power", not "state", namely "Russia"


                      Quote: Roman123567
                      But in some cases you don’t have to turn it on ..

                      In any case, do not have to. I don’t have to do this.
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                        Yes, stop flirting.
                        I was going to flirt with you ..

                        You were completely liberal, denouncing "authoritarian power"
                        We ??) Are you talking to a tree there ??)


                        After the annexation of Crimea, all the wretchedness of this line became clear.
                        And what is wrong with the Crimea ?? The Russian people returned to where it should be ?? Do you have something against ??


                        And your audience suddenly completely became "real patriots, unlike the idiots"

                        Our?? This is whose ??
                        Suddenly?? I have never been a thoughtless patriot .. For any patriotism is a disease .. Preventing to think impartially, and forcing only to calm down .. how are you doing now ..


                        But it doesn’t matter that you chat there. It does not matter what kind of power there is, thieves, authoritarian or anti-people.
                        For you it means it doesn’t .. but for me it has !!
                        For when the enemies of the people are in power, this one is similar to the support of Nazi Germany ..


                        Not "power", not "state", namely "Russia"

                        I don’t support Russia .. At least - in key areas today !!
                        If Russia is not a state in your head, turn to the appropriate specialists ..

                        I don’t have to do this.
                        That's right .. and so it turns out ..
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                        I was going to flirt with you ..

                        You flirt with yourself laughing

                        Quote: Roman123567
                        I have never been a mindless patriot .. For any patriotism is a disease .. Preventing to think impartially

                        laughing laughing laughing

                        Quote: Roman123567
                        For you it means it doesn’t .. but for me it has !!

                        You're lying.
                        For you, only hostility towards Russia matters. The rest is excuses for those who are wretchedly wise. For your "patriotism is a disease" you revealed even more than in the phrase "I do not support Russia"

                        Quote: Roman123567
                        If Russia is not a state in your head, turn to the appropriate specialists ..

                        For participants of special olympiads. Our state is called the "Russian Federation"
                        "Russia" is our country, our homeland. Which you, to put it mildly, do not like.
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                        For you, only hostility towards Russia matters. The rest is excuses for those who are wretchedly wise.


                        Especially for them - I do not support Russia .. At least - in key areas today !!
                        И to support the direction in which we are moving - this must be an enemy for the country and for its compatriots ..
                        This is just above you, and the like ..

                        your "patriotism is a disease" you revealed even more
                        I am very glad that something began to reveal to you ..
                        Therefore, I will reveal even more - you are again scolded, not being able to read the whole written ..
                        I'm not squeamish, and I will help ..

                        any patriotism is a disease .. Preventing to think impartially, and forcing only to calm down .. how are you doing now ..


                        Our state is called the "Russian Federation"
                        "Russia" is our country.
                        Blah blah blah..
                        Russia and the Russian Federation - have the same meaning ..
                        If he has guessed, then why are these pathetic attempts to justify themselves ..

                        "Russia" is our country, our homeland. Which you, to put it mildly, do not like.
                        It is you who declare that Russia is NOT a state .. So I would be silent ..))
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    As your audience, the victory of the USSR in World War II flatters ...
    And even more, it is the unwillingness of the inhabitants of Russia to forget about this victory. And repent, repent, repent.
    What should it flatten me out of victory? I’m a realist, if Nazi Germany won, I would be born some kind of cattle, which would be forbidden to learn to read, if I were born at all ... But, of course, I prefer to say World War II.
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      What should it flatten me out of victory?

      Because once yours already lost.
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        Quote: Spade
        Because once yours already lost.
        Demagogy.
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          Demagogy.

          Rather, a story.
          Which you are trying to rewrite.
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            The fact that "modern thieves' Russian power - so it tries to seem like the Soviet Union, playing on the psyche and nostalgia of the people" - this is not history, but modern reality, and a real fact ..
            I say this as a person whose ancestors fought in the Second World War, defeated fascism in it, but didn’t dream of such a future for the country, and didn’t die for those who hide the Mausoleum behind plywood on this Great Holiday, treat their people with disgust, but yelling "we can repeat"
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              I say this as a person whose ancestors fought in the Second World War, defeated fascism in it,

              And as a person who is ready to spit on them. On their Victory.
              Because "I'm from Russia .. but I also do not support Russia .."
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                like a man ready to spit on them. On their Victory.

                As a person who is ready to spit on those who like you spit on Russia ..

                Because

                I am from Russia .. but I also do not support Russia - in key areas today !!
                For today there is no order in the country, and the government is anti-people .. And to support the direction in which we are moving is to be an enemy for the country and for our compatriots ..
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            Rather, a story.

            Dear Lopatov, there was a hunt for you to throw beads. request Although, in this case, you can "beads", but not less than 152 mm. If more - no one will be offended. yes laughing hi
  • Paranoid50 April 17 2020 12: 52 New
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    So the very fact of why

    it slid over and climbed here again, saying that it’s time to demolish again. yes
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      it pereloginilas and climbed here again,

      Crystal and Katya2 got Mikhan worse am
  • APASUS April 17 2020 10: 20 New
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    In an effort to lick the West, the Poles themselves did not understand how they lost their face, dishonored to remember their fellow citizens who fell in the fight against fascism. To honor the memory of the dead and preserve the lives of contemporaries, they now have wildness !!
    Caved in so caved in
  • alex aircraft April 17 2020 10: 23 New
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    Why advertise the hyena of Europe in the media (Churchill's phrase) let them write what they want and do not pay attention at all. A holiday is a state of mind, albeit without a parade.
  • Jarserge April 17 2020 10: 31 New
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    Homo americanus has always been distinguished by a delay in development and some slow-thinking, partly due to a delay in waiting for instructions and handouts
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    Do not pay attention to the biliary outpourings of European hyenas, we will hold a parade, even if not May 9, but still we will!
  • Adam Khomich April 17 2020 10: 35 New
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    Who is interested in the howls of the "hyenas of Europe"?
    The victory of the Soviet People over united European fascism, supported and directly financed by bankers and industrialists from Wall Street, is our Victory!
    The Poles, who served the Nazis in concentration camps and in voluntary Einsatzgruppes, caught the concentration camp fugitives and for 10 marks, who handed them over to the Nazis alive (and often killed with their own hands), desecrating the graves of Jews for gold crowns, and now destroying the monuments to their liberators are not even empty a child who died of starvation in besieged Leningrad. Dog krev.
  • _Ugene_ April 17 2020 10: 37 New
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    for many living, homo sovieticus is an unthinkable thing that causes anxiety and fear. The king has always been stronger than God. And now the king is inferior to a small virus. For the Russians, it is unacceptable that something so tiny would determine their fate and make them forget about life.
    neighing from the heart, if there were more such funny comments, many would be interested in those with so many brains?
  • Vasyan1971 April 17 2020 10: 44 New
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    For the Russians, it is unacceptable that something so tiny would determine their fate and make them forget about life.

    Ha! Pole experts of the mysterious Russian soul, such experts ...
  • Nordport2 April 17 2020 10: 44 New
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    the psheks are not given to understand what Victory is, the eternal "terpils" with megalomania.
  • ZaharoFF April 17 2020 10: 58 New
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    There you go! The next section is just around the corner, with a parade and fireworks.
    More seriously, this is our Victory and how to celebrate it, whom to invite, etc. should not concern any proforsetki.
  • rotmistr60 April 17 2020 11: 00 New
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    Polish Russophobes and young Polish shoots begin to shake with anger when they hear the sonorous Victory Day. And at the word Parade begins verbal incontinence. They cannot understand that Polish arrogance towards Russians and Russia does not at all mean a manifestation of the spirituality of the nation and the desire for independence. They are financially dependent on the EU, politically they are trying to cover up their causal places with the United States, by transferring arrows to Russia. Damage is not only in the heads, but also in ordinary human feelings.
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    But for many living homo sovieticus, this is an unthinkable thing that causes anxiety and fear.

    Wet dreams do not leave an inflamed imagination and continue to excite the unhealthy consciousness of these small hominoids. For many living homno polyakus, the appearance of the Victory Parade causes muscle colic and involuntary urination. They will choke on their own feces and bile, as has already happened more than once. yes
  • Servisinzhener April 17 2020 11: 18 New
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    At the same time, not a single Polish publication said a word about how many Soviet soldiers laid their heads for the liberation of Poland from Nazism.
    And did they really want to be released? For me, they are very similar to the Czechs in this. Arranged a "rebellion" a few days before surrender. And so wonderful spent on the last journey of the local Gauleiter Heydrich.
    Not just because the Germans were building death camps in Poland. They perfectly understood that they were building them where there was no sense to run since locals will not hide.
    Between November 1943 and until the liberation of Poland, about 90 more former Sobibor prisoners (those whom the Germans could not catch) were extradited to the Germans by the local population or killed by collaborators. Only 53 participants in the uprising survived until the end of the war (according to other sources, 47).
  • sleeve April 17 2020 11: 32 New
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    Something we are here soon to reach the estimates of fence creativity. Already at VO there is no, and yes, public opinion ratings slip based on user comments.
  • rocket757 April 17 2020 11: 46 New
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    There is nothing to discuss, everything is logical, VIRUS!
    A rave about this ??? Well, how are they limited, spring aggravation, for all orderlies, there aren’t enough beds and halos!
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    At the same time, not a single Polish publication said a word about how many Soviet soldiers laid their heads for the liberation of Poland from Nazism. Short memory? ..


    Nothing, the time will come and everyone will remember very quickly.
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      No, with the Germans they felt good. Things were collected. To move beyond the Urals. Stalin broke off all the buzz ...
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    September 3 - I think they will spend it, but at the same time they will combine the two dates.
  • Ivan Orlovsky April 17 2020 13: 22 New
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    It's time to stop paying attention to the Polish freaks, who forgot about who freed them. It is useless to reach out to their consciousness. God be their judge.
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      According to the Polish freak, there is a beauty Correct to speak, curvy tanchutz ball ...
  • The guard April 17 2020 14: 40 New
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    May 9, we will celebrate, just transfer the Victory Parade, so let them mock!
  • Incvizitor April 17 2020 14: 51 New
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    Representatives of the Phashington colony say something about the tsar, the tsar himself lives with the oceans in general, and these messages exist for him and yap at his command. laughing
  • Yuri Kharitonov April 17 2020 16: 20 New
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    Well, as much as you can! Poland is go ... but Europe. Forget it ....
  • iouris April 17 2020 16: 44 New
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    It is especially important for us how the Polish trolls “comment” on? Ugh on them.
  • Reserve buildbat April 17 2020 17: 02 New
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    The fantastic dullness of the psheks is unchanged. The cowardly and vile hyenas of Europe in their repertoire.
  • NF68 April 17 2020 17: 56 New
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    For Poles, the unthinkable thing is not to be someone else's slaves. And nothing. They live after all.
  • Sergey Zubkov April 17 2020 18: 01 New
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    As my late grandmother said, “You can't make beef out of shit.” In the full sense refers to the Poles.
  • Oyo Sarkazmi April 17 2020 18: 02 New
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    Homo holopicus strip deigned to express their opinion. Russia froze in horror !!!
    Hmm ...
  • Prisoner April 17 2020 19: 15 New
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    Przekusu inconveniensUnder crap to understand, because instead of the mind one ambition.
  • LeonidL April 17 2020 20: 25 New
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    Waiting for the nobility, adequacy, and knowledge of history among the power-holders of Poland and the second “eternal”, which, in fact, even the first profession of the media is encouraging it, is an empty hopeless case. Let them grunt, they are entitled by status.
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    I don’t care what they discuss, what they grunt and what provoke abroad.
  • Thunderol April 18 2020 02: 09 New
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    The Psheks forgot about the first Victory Parade - June 24, 1945. Just, there is a moment to remember this and spend. And throw to the mausoleum not only dummies of Nazi divisions, but also the flags of the traitors of "Poland, Czech Republic, Bulgaria, Italy" and other countries
  • Dmitriy Vyazmenskiy April 18 2020 08: 41 New
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    Like it or not, a person measures everything by himself!
  • Maalkavianin April 18 2020 09: 42 New
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    The parade should have been canceled altogether. Nothing to him now. They would honor the memory of their ancestors and celebrate Victory Day differently.
  • tank64rus April 18 2020 09: 51 New
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    Hold the Victory Parade on June 24, as in 1945. And the fact that they invited foreigners to them now is also not up to the parades. They will arrive in June.
  • steelmaker April 18 2020 10: 36 New
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    And I do not agree with Putin! Victory parade must be held MANDATORY! But only military equipment !!! Processing streets and technology is easier than controlling people. Therefore, Putin has a chance on this Great Day to excel - to spite the enemies of Russia! And it is not necessary to invite haters of Russia. This is our holiday. And this virus isn’t afraid of technology.
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      Therefore, Putin has a chance on this Great Day to excel - to spite the enemies of Russia!

      Actually, it seems to me that 99% of the world’s population is just violet - the May 9th parade will take place or not.
      But your desire to infect veterans at risk is at least strange.
  • Alens April 18 2020 11: 35 New
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    Need help, Anglo-Saxon type incl. Reason guiding them by bringing them to Munich as it was in the 30th of that century. It is possible to divide the territory of Czechs with the Baltic states. You don’t even need a military compound. On the station to give babos
  • andrew42 April 18 2020 13: 06 New
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    Polish pans (not Poles, namely Pans) still can’t get over. About "homo sovieticus" they have the same perverse idea as the medieval inquisitors about Giordano Bruno. Secondly, there is almost no "homo sovietkus" left - and it’s a pity that you will have to re-grow People with a capital letter, putting Good and Justice above trade and justification of priests / priests. Just all sane Russian people are against holding "parades during the plague," and against bourgeois victory. Considering that the Polish “elite” has not learned anything in 500 years, there is no other reaction to be expected from them, as the Pope taught them to rush to Russia, they continue to spoil Muscovy from century to century according to the old methodology.
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    my poland is associated with a mouse
  • meandr51 April 18 2020 17: 52 New
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    Poles again? Well, who are now interested in their opinion ... I would be more interested in the opinion of Cubans or North Koreans. I have not read the article. This is about the headline.
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    what parades? The default will loom very soon, and not for Miler and Sechin, but for you and me.