Reboot matrix. The political crisis in Russia


While citizens around the world are self-insulating, very important processes are taking place. “Reset matrix”: on the example of Russia, you can clearly see the destruction of the old world, the current socio-political and economic system.


Reality change


The global global financial system is collapsing. Oil system. Countries that felt very good in this system, including the Russian Federation, are plunging into a tough crisis. Governments and elites are deliberately breaking the economic ties that have developed over decades. Production stops, unemployment, poverty and crime are growing rapidly. People thrown into conditions of self-isolation sharply reduce consumption. But their resources are limited, so in a month, two or three they will look for sources of subsistence, which will intensify the processes of turmoil. Either a huge social transformation will be carried out - people will be made dependent on external assistance, they will restrict their rights in return and introduce a social rating (in a word, “digital concentration camp”).

In particular, under the pretext of fighting the virus, Bill Gates has already proposed a global project to chip people through vaccination. True, while Trump is opposed to this idea and therefore refused to fund the World Health Organization. In Russia, the leaders are Moscow, where they are trying to break in the technology of new personality control systems.

Socio-political systems created in the XNUMXth century are actually self-destructing under the influence of many factors, the main of which is information (information panic, pandemic of fear). The central government was "self-isolated", powers were transferred to the regions. The leaders of the regions and mayors unexpectedly became unit princes and barons. National statehood and sovereignty are collapsing under the influence of global panic, escalated by the media and supranational organizations like the IMF and WHO. The collapse of the economy, including the oil collapse, regionalization, which may soon turn into separatism, and the growth of social tension break statehood.

Interestingly, almost the whole world capitulated to the "virus", leading to the complete destruction of the old world. Only civilization countries like China and Japan have their own characteristics. Trump resists, quite reasonably arguing that destroying the economy is much more dangerous for ordinary Americans than a strange virus. Resists Lukashenko. After all, it is obvious to any sane person that there is no epidemiological catastrophe! On April 16, 2020, 2 million patients in the world and over 138 thousand died. A pandemic is about 10% of those affected by the population, an epidemic is in the region of 1%. That is, in Russia for the epidemic there should be 1,4 million sick people, and pandemics - 14 million. Many ordinary diseases like pneumonia, cancer, cardiovascular diseases take much more people. Tens and hundreds of thousands of people mow down alcohol, tobacco, drugs, kill in wars or bandits, die of hunger, on the roads, etc. But why think about it? People should be in fear without a situation analysis.

Let the storm break out stronger?


Why are regional authorities fighting the virus? Where is the sanitary-epidemiological service, the Ministry of Emergencies, and if the business is very bad, the armed forces? Where is the central authority? Putin is "self-isolating." If it goes on like this, then he will repeat the fate of Gorbachev or Boris Godunov. Instead of the leader of the country - Sobyanin. The army was isolated, like other central organs. Current legislation is violated everywhere. Like the Constitution.

Thus, we see rather the development of not an epidemic, but mass psychosis. The Kremlin made a strategic mistake when it followed the Europeans in developing this epidemic of psychosis and fear. Although the example of sanity at hand is Belarus, the “father” of Lukashenko. While the head of White Russia holds an information blow, but one in the field is not a warrior. Europe, Ukraine and Russia - in common.

It is already obvious that in the spring and summer of 2020 the situation will not magically reverse. A new Great Depression has come. It must be remembered that in the first Great Depression, when the capitalist world writhed in agony, the USSR-Russia prospered, we had an economic miracle. Thousands of new industrial and agricultural enterprises, health centers, schools, institutes, houses of creativity and culture, theaters were built. Large-scale infrastructure projects were implemented. Life has become better, life has become happier. The people enthusiastically built a beautiful new world, the civilization of the future. Then we were a self-sufficient system, and it was “violet” to us that the West was feeling bad.

Now the opposite is true. The Russian Federation is the periphery of the capitalist world. Energy Power Station. With the top, which is used to living within the framework of the oil-dollar system and otherwise does not know how and does not want. If Europe and the United States will be hurt during the crisis, then peripherals like the Middle East and the Russian Federation will die. In the scenario of the fight against the virus that we see now in Russia, the current society and economy simply will not survive. All available reserves will be quickly exhausted. The destruction of a single economy will be followed by the state apparatus and power structures. At the same time, in Moscow, the population is clearly preparing for a powerful protest, after which many regions can explode. Further, the pro-Western liberals of the 90s may come to power, the interim government of the Kudrins, Chubais, Sobyanins, Kiriyenko. The scenario of the collapse of the Russian Empire and the USSR.
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  1. Vend April 20 2020 15: 05 New
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    The crisis is not in Russia, but in the author’s head laughing
    1. Svarog April 20 2020 15: 28 New
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      A new Great Depression has come. It must be remembered that in the first Great Depression, when the capitalist world writhed in agony, the USSR-Russia prospered, we had an economic miracle.

      And now we are going to bend across the west. An urgent need to bring the socialists to power and nationalize the oil and gas sector and energy ..
      We played the thieves' liberal democracy, for 20 years did not create anything substantial and fundamental .. it is time for the socialists to save the country ..
      1. CSKA April 20 2020 15: 58 New
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        Quote: Svarog
        Played thieves' liberal democracy

        ))))) Democracy cannot be liberal or conservative. Svarog, do you finally bother to read the meaning of the word liberalism?
        1. TAMBU April 20 2020 16: 11 New
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          I could be wrong, but in this context I see what was meant by bourgeois democracy ...
          1. CSKA April 21 2020 13: 53 New
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            I could be wrong, but in this context I see what was meant by bourgeois democracy ...

            )))) There is no such democracy. In theory and in the DPRK, democracy, but in fact there is authoritarianism.
            1. TAMBU April 21 2020 15: 16 New
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              In fact, for authoritarianism, 2 out of 8 signs are lacking there (the illegal nature of the authorities ’activity is doubtful, if only because in the international legal field treaties with the DPRK were considered and are considered legitimate and within the country I’m ready to argue there is a system of law, and the second is the violation of rights and freedoms citizens - pff ... this is generally the funniest ... the state apparatus in any state in fact serves to infringe on the rights of some in favor of others), but these signs, as well as the concepts themselves, are so blurred that authoritarianism can be called any system in any trance of the world throughout history ...
              and with regards to what happens and what does not happen in this case, it’s all essentially the interpretation of such a thing as democracy from the point of view of different political worldviews. Nevertheless, today these are all concepts - the wording of which can be comprehended in the primary sources of various authors defending their worldviews. Read - and you will understand what people mean with such concepts.
              1. CSKA April 23 2020 12: 16 New
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                Quote: TAMBU
                In fact, for authoritarianism, 2 out of 8 signs are lacking there (the illegal nature of the authorities ’activity is doubtful, if only because in the international legal field treaties with the DPRK were considered and are considered legitimate and within the country I’m ready to argue there is a system of law, and the second is the violation of rights and freedoms citizens - pff ... this is generally the funniest ... the state apparatus in any state in fact serves to infringe on the rights of some in favor of others), but these signs, as well as the concepts themselves, are so blurred that authoritarianism can be called any system in any trance of the world throughout history ...

                In the DPRK, democracy or authoritarianism is honestly not very interesting to me. Although, by all criteria, it is authoritarian. Authoritarianism is a type of undemocratic political regime based on the strong centralized power of one person (president, monarch, prime minister) or a group of people (for example, a certain party) while maintaining economic, civil, spiritual freedoms for citizens.
                It implies a harsh suppression of non-systemic opposition by authoritarian authorities and the impossibility of legal opposition to significantly affect the course of the state or its complete absence. Authoritarian leaders use power, almost or completely not looking at popular views that are different from the opinions of the authorities and the permitted opposition (if it is present), and it is almost impossible to change them.
                Quote: TAMBU
                Read - and you will understand what people mean with such concepts.

                I read and understand. The question is, we have a swami in another. Democracy is a political system, and liberalism is a philosophical and socio-political movement.
                1. TAMBU April 23 2020 16: 14 New
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                  What I mean is that any definition implies the presence of signs peculiar only to him and not peculiar to another definition.
                  Then let’s say this: democracy is a system in which the power in a state works for a part of citizens, and which part of people depends on officially declared philosophical and socio-political movements in this state ...
                  1. CSKA April 24 2020 13: 39 New
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                    Quote: TAMBU
                    What I mean is that any definition implies the presence of signs peculiar only to him and not peculiar to another definition.
                    Then let’s say this: democracy is a system in which the power in a state works for a part of citizens, and which part of people depends on officially declared philosophical and socio-political movements in this state ...

                    I agree with you.
            2. vavilon April 22 2020 14: 32 New
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              democracy exists in any system, whether capitalist or communist, only each has its own, but the transfer of power from system to system in a democratic way, except as long as the military does not exist
              And by and large, as such, democracy does not exist
        2. NordUral April 20 2020 20: 54 New
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          Look at the USA and you will understand that it may well.
          1. CSKA April 21 2020 13: 58 New
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            Quote: NordUral
            Look at the USA and you will understand that it may well.

            A country can be either democratic or authoritarian. Authorities can pursue either liberal policies or conservative ones. Conservative power can pursue a liberal economy, as in Singapore, for example. Do you understand that these are completely different concepts of democracy and liberalism? Not related to each other.
            1. NordUral April 21 2020 16: 58 New
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              Actually, any system is authoritarian, slightly or not very retouched by the buns of democracy.
              1. CSKA April 23 2020 12: 18 New
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                Quote: NordUral
                Actually, any system is authoritarian, slightly or not very retouched by the buns of democracy.

                Well, I agree with you on this, but how does this relate to what you wrote above?
                1. NordUral April 23 2020 12: 24 New
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                  CSKA, you already indicate where above. In general, I’m quite a solid person, not a nightingale, and I don’t write something that is difficult or impossible to combine.
                  1. CSKA April 24 2020 13: 41 New
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                    Quote: NordUral
                    CSKA, you already indicate where above. In general, I’m quite a solid person, not a nightingale, and I don’t write something that is difficult or impossible to combine.

                    Quote: NordUral
                    Look at the USA and you will understand that it may well.

                    So can it be democratic or not?
                    1. NordUral April 24 2020 14: 05 New
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                      Behind any democracy are hidden powers or the power of government.
                      Maybe democratic visibility can be, as it is.
                      1. CSKA April 27 2020 12: 42 New
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                        Quote: NordUral
                        Behind any democracy are hidden powers or the power of government.
                        Maybe democratic visibility can be, as it is.

                        In my opinion, we have moved away from the essence of the matter.
        3. Lannan Shi April 20 2020 20: 56 New
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          Quote: CSKA
          ))))) Democracy cannot be liberal or conservative.

          It can very well. And democracy can be liberal, and autocracy, and the monarchy with theocracy too. The essence of liberalism is the freedom of making money, the power of money, and the division into people and non-people by the thickness of their wallet. The rest ... Verbal garbage and scenery. Selected in accordance with the moment, and little effect on. Take the United States as an example. Liberal from the moment of its origin to this day. Liberal and at the time of creation, with prosperous slavery, puritanism and restrictions on access to elections, it is stupid from the availability of finances for the voter, and to today's gay parades, the third sex and discrimination are already white. The scenery turned around 180 degrees. the essence has not changed a gram. Just as several dozen seeds ruled the country, they still rule. Is personalities have changed, but not the principle.
          And democracy, it can also be very different. It depends on some economic theory to fertilize it. Democratic southern states, and democratic policies, where there were more slaves than free, this is democracy. And tribal, military, democracy. in which for the slightest attempt to limit freedom of the intestine they easily let go, she is also a democracy. Two poles of the same democracy. And how democratic is democratic, and how demagogic it is, depends on the economic superstructure on it.
          1. CSKA April 21 2020 15: 01 New
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            Quote: Lannan Shi
            It can very well. And democracy can be liberal, and autocracy, and the monarchy with theocracy too.

            What the hell are you talking about ?! Democracy cannot exist in countries with absolute monarchy and theocracy. Though read these concepts. You understand that democracy and liberalism are generally different concepts. Democracy is a political system, and liberalism is a philosophical and socio-political movement.
            Quote: Lannan Shi
            The essence of liberalism is the freedom of making money, the power of money, and the division into people and non-people by the thickness of their wallet. The rest ... Verbal garbage

            Verbal garbage is what you wrote. You absolutely do not understand what you are writing about. Learn to read the terms.
            Quote: Lannan Shi
            Take the United States as an example. Liberal from the moment of its origin to this day. Liberal and at the time of creation, with flourishing slavery, puritanism

            Again, sheer nonsense. In liberal ideology, there can be no slavery and especially Puritanism.
            Until you read what conservatism and liberalism have nothing to talk about, you do not understand the meaning of these terms.
        4. aybolyt678 April 21 2020 02: 37 New
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          bother to read the meaning of the word liberalism

          liberalism is permissiveness from liberty - freedom. Unfortunately, in our age of substitution of concepts, freedom is not limited to duties, it gives power over oil rigs, and here is the whole point of liberalism sad
          1. CSKA April 21 2020 15: 03 New
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            liberalism is permissiveness

            This is absolutely not true.
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            she gives power over oil rigs

            Liberalism is a philosophical and socio-political movement. What does the oil rig have to do with it?
            1. aybolyt678 April 21 2020 15: 21 New
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              Liberalism is a philosophical and socio-political movement. What does the oil rig have to do with it?

              Culture is a system of internal restrictions, where does the amateur activity of which the Ministry of Culture deals with ??? smile
              in fact, I completely agree with you, it’s just that in our time, substitutions of concepts are judged by cases. Liberalism in politics and social order allows some people to use the bowels separately from the people.
              1. CSKA April 23 2020 12: 21 New
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                Liberalism in politics and social order allows some people to use the bowels separately from the people.

                I would not say that we have liberals in politics.
                Quote: aybolyt678
                use the bowels separately from the people.

                And in which country did people use mineral resources?))))
                1. aybolyt678 April 23 2020 12: 37 New
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                  And in which country did people use mineral resources?))))

                  norway, and many others partially.
                  and liberals in relation to themselves are
                  1. CSKA April 24 2020 13: 52 New
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                    norway, and many others partially.

                    For example, the Norwegian state owns a 67,0% stake in Equinor. Just like we have Rosneft for example. And it is the state, not the people.
                    Quote: aybolyt678
                    and liberals in relation to themselves are

                    I would say that Kudrin and Gref are supporters of the liberal economy, but this does not mean that they are liberals.
                    1. aybolyt678 April 24 2020 14: 06 New
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                      I said about the fact that today is the time to substitute the meaning of words. Here is the hackneyed word "Elite", a military French term, meaning the best military unit. The social function of the elite is to set an example of how to live, fight and die. What has the elite turned into today? what is called this word? - plutocrats! this is their self-name. Therefore, please do not cling to the brink of meaning! smile today, words are used separately from their semantic meaning. It's a pity! sad
                      1. CSKA April 27 2020 12: 54 New
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                        Quote: aybolyt678
                        I said about the fact that today is the time to substitute the meaning of words. Here is the hackneyed word "Elite", a military French term, meaning the best military unit.

                        As the word "Elite" meant before, it is not so important. In the Roman Empire, the emperor originally also meant something else. I believe that there is no elite as such; there is an establishment.
                      2. aybolyt678 April 27 2020 14: 31 New
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                        drinks fellow
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                        I believe that there is no elite as such; there is an establishment.
                        exactly! good
          2. victor50 April 22 2020 05: 21 New
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            What does it have to do with

            Guru, before you teach someone, you would have learned Russian! Or is “patriotism” (in fact, just a commitment to existing power) and illiteracy not inseparable? laughing You even have a short comment about errors. And there too - to teach philosophy and politics! Ambition ...
            1. CSKA April 23 2020 12: 25 New
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              Quote: victor50
              Guru, before you teach someone, you would have learned Russian! Or is “patriotism” (in fact, just a commitment to existing power) and illiteracy not inseparable? You even have a short comment about errors. And there too - to teach philosophy and politics! Ambition ...

              Literacy, where is the error with me?)))))) Mind was only enough to understand the grammar, but essentially nothing to answer?
    2. TAMBU April 20 2020 16: 07 New
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      already over 30 ...
    3. Digital error April 20 2020 16: 46 New
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      in 20 years they haven’t created anything substantial and fundamental

      Already over 30 ...
      1. Okolotochny April 20 2020 17: 32 New
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        For 36, take it and you will not be mistaken. And also the source of such changes pliz ...
        1. NordUral April 20 2020 20: 56 New
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          I’ll probably extend it for half a century +, and that’s for sure, it’s just that at first it was invisible to us, but today it doesn’t reach many
          1. 50 years, respected NordUral, as it were, is not quite the right figure. As if..
            In 1970, headed for the restoration of ,, capitalism ,,? Of course not. The real communists of the Stalinist draft, front-line soldiers, reconnaissance officers, policemen were still alive and strong in every sense ... Another thing is that the West has been working closely on the topic since 1917. After all, socialism is a threat to ,, ordinary nonhumans ,, (briefly, conveniently, and intelligently, in terms of communication with us, ,, ufo ,,).
            These ,, guys ,, - what are those chameleons. It doesn’t matter which country they live in, it doesn’t matter which class they belong to, which party they belong to ... Take the example of Tukhachevsky and ,, Tukhachevites ,,. Great work of German intelligence! The Kaiser intelligence began .. Then there was the Weimar Republic, the Third Reich, and ,, Arsenic ,, (Tukhachevsky’s home nickname) as he served, in good faith, to the Hans and continued until 1937 ... What level of work! But British intelligence is even cooler ,, (the example of Canaris says a lot to thinking people). Therefore, unfortunately, our country is a “passage yard” for foreign intelligence.
            ... ,, Dumb ,, killed Stalin's protégés during the life of the Leader, they killed him himself. They imposed the country on Khrushchev-Perlmutter. And he, "freak out", in full. The collapse of the Army, the Ministry of State Security, aviation, artillery, delusional, and virgin, virgin,, American, corn, as a panacea for the agriculture of the Country of Bread ...
            The old communists called 1976 the year when Leonid Ilyich thoroughly ,, fell ill. ,, Outwardly, it was connected with, “self-award,” Order of Victory. But we (,, mi ,, - with a Georgian accent)) here partially agree with NordUral - powerful ,, oddities ,, and ,, movements ,, began before 1976. Already in the period from 1970 to 1975, the country began to impose, a happy path, a raw materials appendage. Laying pipelines for, feeding, UFOs in the West, squandering Russia's natural wealth, began to appear as some kind of extraordinary success, for glorious achievements.
            Strange purchases of West German motor vehicles to, commemorating the 30th anniversary of the Victory of the Soviet people, ... The intentionally stupid and absurd constitution of 1977, written under the dictation of experienced Western ,, explosive engineers ,,, intentionally sending thousands of Soviet to Afghanistan for slaughter boys since 1979 ... By the way, in the episode with Afghanistan, the cultural influence of Britain is clearly traced. Well done, of course, James Bond, no doubt - those who are lucky go on that one. Now they say, would, forgive me: ,, Without a sucker - life is bad ,,.
            Powerfully, the course for restoration was taken, of course, since 1985. Here the American trace is already clearly visible. I had enough mind with my wife to go to Kapstran ... However, there would be a MAN - I would cope with the situation, and not, “floated”.
            But what about our good guys with a cold head and a warm heart? How did you overlook, how did you oversleep?
            It’s not enough to be “clean”, outwardly, healthy, smart. It is not important. The collapse of the Union perfectly demonstrated this. NO ROD - ,, homo sapiens ,, - a dummy. Any serious ,, bait ,, can be caught .. ,, karasika ,,.
            Such, in our opinion, the chronology of restoration of capitalism in Russia.
            The author of the article does not speak clearly about this. And we will say. SOCIALISM ONLY! Only caring for ALL social groups (classes). There is no other way. Or satanic ,, electronic concentration camp ,, and the power of bestial UFOs or the power of PEOPLE. There is no third option. Or God or Satan. ..
            By the way, with the Feast of all! Christ is risen!
            1. Sergey Artamonov April 20 2020 23: 35 New
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              Radically but incomprehensible. Authorship? Is there no peace? All by yourself? Mobilization economies and rations? The Union has destroyed the cognitive dissonance between egalitarianism (and imitation of labor by unnecessary people) and conspicuousness (forgive my God). It is known that when surpluses appear, someone appropriates them (and not the one who produces, but who distributes) and eats under the bed. How to deal with this? Realism comes from an idea, and ideas are driven in childhood by a stick at the level of training, otherwise you get spoiled wimps, but what about childhood? The personality is formed through the will, which drives animal instincts into the subconscious. It will not work to instill a will in a person with a stick; a stick produces cowards or aggressors. There are no simple solutions; there is the work of specialists on each problem and the teacher (good) is the highest value of the country that wins the school desk. Where are they? Teachers are now pariahs, and this is on any end of any country, Bantustan with a consumer without options for fascism has been verified. Therefore, no slogans are needed; a firm, but quiet, well-thought-out policy, which only an empire can give, is needed.
              1. Digital error April 21 2020 10: 53 New
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                Quote: Sergey Artamonov
                There are no simple solutions; there is the work of specialists on each problem and the teacher (good) is the highest value of the country

                I agree. And now, after the pandemic, "distance" can be recognized as a priority value. With all the consequences.
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                that only empire can give

                I agree, if only an empire can provide sovereign education, but the thesis is controversial, depending on what is meant by an empire.
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            3. NordUral April 21 2020 10: 17 New
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              Eugene, you are all qualitatively spread out on the shelves, I completely agree. And the only true conclusion is only socialism!
        2. Digital error April 20 2020 23: 41 New
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          For 36 take

          Until 2036 do you mean? smile Well, they haven’t voted yet, but Annushka has already spilled oil ...
    4. Ded_Mazay April 20 2020 18: 19 New
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      and nationalize the oil and gas sector and energy ..

      To nationalize what is already state is certainly a fresh and deep thought ....
      1. Digital error April 20 2020 23: 44 New
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        To nationalize what is already state is certainly a fresh and deep thought.

        In this case, can you explain why the government paid for the purchase of Sberbank from the NWF?
        1. Ded_Mazay April 21 2020 08: 35 New
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          To begin with, explain how sideways the movement with Sberra relates to the idea of ​​"nationalizing the oil and gas industry"?
          Rosneft and Gazprom are legal entities in the form of joint-stock companies in which the Russian Federation owns a majority stake. What is there, one asks, to nationalize? What is the point of this action, if the state in one way or another (through the law, and in some cases even property rights) controls the subsoil, exploration, production, export, and tax collection?
          No, I understand that everyone has their own "ritual chants" - liberals in any incomprehensible situation start a song about "rights and freedoms", and our "left" audience is about "nationalization". Only now to such an extent it is indecent to lose touch with reality. Here and to the author of the article is not far ...

          PS If Svarog started talking about the nationalization of the coal industry, because we have confusion, reeling and a mess there, what else to look for that the “effective owners” don’t invest in it, and as a result, the industry has environmental and security problems , and they are not involved in the development of modern technologies for ecologically friendly burning of coal, and therefore we have every chance to * * * * both the market and the industry as such - that’s where it would hit the mark. Right now more precisely nowhere.
          Only here, the coal industry, as practice shows, for some reason doesn’t touch people’s minds or hearts (although we mostly use coal-fired thermal power plants in the winter) and you won’t be able to hype it, unlike oil and gas ...
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            Quote: Ded_Mazay
            everyone has their own "ritual chants" - liberals

            Ah, here it is. You would not be in a hurry to hang up labels, this is empty. Personally, I am for a strong and sovereign Russia. This task (like any) can have many solutions. But I do not like Putin if you are talking about it, although he, according to Peskov, is a liberal himself.
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            what sideways dvizhuha with sber

            Sber, therefore, paid dividends to the budget. Why buy it (maybe it was worth it to “nationalize”?), And even during the crisis, and even from the means of the NWF, which is part of the federal budget. The Fund is called upon to become part of a sustainable long-term pension system for citizens of the Russian Federation https://www.minfin.ru/en/perfomance/nationalwealthfund/mission/
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            controlling interest in which belongs to the Russian Federation

            The share of the Russian Federation in PJSC Gazprom is 38,37% https://www.gazprom.ru/investors/stock/
            Direct state stake in Rosneft PJSC - 0,000000009%
            https://www.rosneft.ru/Investors/structure/share_capital/
            Why do we need a “lining” between the budget and oil and gas represented by ROSNEFTEGAZ JSC established by the Federal State Unitary Enterprise “Foreign Economic Association Tekhnopromexport”?
            Quote: Ded_Mazay
            we have confusion, reeling and mess there

            Is it because the demand for coal is less and less (objectively - no offense)? Here, rather, miners need to be proactively employed, the problem is that few people begin to look for another job in the presence of an "active" one. Apartments in Kuzbass will soon be sold at the price of greenhouses, which is no coincidence - people don’t see prospects and leave for the shift. Nationalization here, if necessary, is to a limited extent.
            Quote: Ded_Mazay
            unlike oil and gas, it will not work

            I'm not at that age to tap on the keyboard for hype. I want to understand, but you, by the way, have not stated your position request
            1. Ded_Mazay April 21 2020 11: 49 New
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              Quote: DigitalError
              You would not be in a hurry to hang labels

              Constant ranting about "nationalization" to and from the place, as a means of "all problems" other than "Ritual chants" can not be called.
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              But I do not like Putin if you are talking about it, although he, according to Peskov, is a liberal himself.

              Who you like and who don't, doesn't interest me. The only thing is, do not confuse “liberalism” in its classical meaning and the madhouse that the handshake party that cynically calls itself “liberals” is trying to pass it off.
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              what sideways dvizhuha with sber

              As already said, I do not consider the situation with the reassignment of savings to property related to the topic.
              Quote: DigitalError
              Why do we need a “lining” between the budget and oil and gas represented by ROSNEFTEGAZ JSC established by the Federal State Unitary Enterprise “Foreign Economic Association Tekhnopromexport”?

              What is the difference if the ultimate owner is the Russian Federation?
              Quote: DigitalError
              Is it because the demand for coal is less and less ...

              Not because. The situation with coal was well disclosed by Boris Martsinkevich (chief editor of "Geoenergetics") in the article "Decarbonization of Energy" as a way to demonize coal "(http://geoenergetics.ru/2020/01/28/dekarbonizaciya-energetiki-kak-sposob-demonizacii-uglya /).
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              unlike oil and gas, it will not work
              t:

              This is generally not about you, but about one oil and gas nationalist ...
              Quote: DigitalError
              you, by the way, did not state your position

              About what? Sberbank? See above.
              1. Digital error April 21 2020 12: 02 New
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                Quote: Ded_Mazay
                As already said, I do not consider the situation with the reassignment of savings to property related to the topic

                Well, that is, you will not help me understand this. Sorry request
                Quote: Ded_Mazay
                What is the difference if the ultimate owner is the Russian Federation?

                Big one. Typically, intermediaries retain a portion of the margin. Plus salaries to employees and tops must be paid, to conduct "other economic activities."
                Quote: Ded_Mazay
                See above

                This is a rejection of the dialogue under the pretext of "we will not flood."
                hi
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                  Quote: DigitalError
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                  See above

                  This is a rejection of the dialogue under the pretext of "we will not flood."

                  Consider as you please.
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        And in what place is our state oil and gas company, Ded_Mazay? And where is the state itself?
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      Whom to bring? Social s?
      Hto such, why do not I know?
      What do they want in which caves live? Not in Norway, who are the Vikings?
      Something scary ...
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      They say horseradish is not sweeter. They steal regardless of party affiliation and everything else.
      1. NordUral April 21 2020 10: 21 New
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        You listen less than nightingales, the Wanderer of Polente.
    7. savage1976 April 21 2020 01: 02 New
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      Socialists, of course, sounds good and beautiful. The construction of factories, theaters, power plants in the 30s and the rapid growth of the well-being of the Soviet people is very healthy. But what about those millions of people who died of starvation in the 30s? Well, why did the socialists building one of the largest power plants in the world, Dneproges, not feed the nearest population? Or are these also not written to the market? So what is the difference between socialists and capitalists, since both people die from starvation while improving living standards? And who then, under the socialists, plundered state resources in such volumes that people did not have food? Also modern reformers sold to the west and the golden calf?
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        Well, why did the socialists building one of the largest power plants in the world, Dneproges, not feed the nearest population? Or are these also not written to the market?

        Many people did not fit into socialism, but there were few special rations and state deliveries request
      2. Fanur Galiev April 21 2020 07: 38 New
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        What is the difference between the socialists of those years and the capitalists? The difference is big enough. Of course, there are many reasons why this happened. From quite standard: a besieged fortress with all the consequences, emergency preparations for war, industrialization, many mistakes, etc. etc. But perhaps the key difference is the following: the USSR is a prototype of a socialist state, created not in greenhouse laboratory conditions, but, so to speak, immediately thrown to the front. Like any prototype, he had a huge variety of "childhood diseases." We managed to get rid of some of them, but still this was not enough. And the prototype, so to speak, could not go into the series with an improved product.
        1. savage1976 April 21 2020 08: 58 New
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          Clearly, therefore, it is possible for them and no matter how many lives it costs. Well, for the sake of good intentions. And why all the roads to hell are paved with good intentions. But now Russia evidently has hothouse, laboratory conditions and it is not a besieged fortress, it has no childhood diseases and that is why everything is bad in its structure and it is still necessary to destroy a certain number of millions for the sake of your good intentions.
          1. Fanur Galiev April 21 2020 09: 34 New
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            The Soviet Union - was the prototype of a socialist state. The Russian Federation is a completely standard, one might say, serial peripheral capitalist state, fully integrated into the world system and occupying in it a strictly allocated source of resources for it. Being a peripheral capitalist state (and capitalism, as we know, the currently dominant economic formation), it has the same problems as other peripheral capitalist states. Only these are not childhood diseases, but systemic ones.
            Speaking of the destruction of millions. Starvation of a large number of citizens is not the source of the economic growth of the USSR. It is not the result of a focused policy. No one signed orders in the style of: "In order to ensure the development and serial production of tractors for agricultural needs, I order one million peasants to starve to death in the Volga region. For reserve purposes, you can use the territory of the Ukrainian SSR." The death of people is a consequence of tragic mistakes and shortcomings. As well as the loss of life in burning shopping centers is a consequence of the focused policies of modern government.
            1. savage1976 April 21 2020 09: 52 New
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              But now there are orders of the current capitalist power to destroy millions of people there in any way? Right there, in VO, proponents of socialism so earnestly accuse the current authorities of annihilating tens of millions of people. Or is the plight of some sections of the population also tragic mistakes, shortcomings, accidents? And where are the guarantees that with the new construction of socialism with nationalization, confiscation, redistribution and all the other benefits of coming to power, Svarog and Co. will not repeat the next series of mistakes, shortcomings, tragic accidents? There are no such guarantees. But I really want to repeat all this.
              1. Fanur Galiev April 21 2020 10: 16 New
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                I think it was written in such a way that the death of people in situations when shopping malls are burning (Winter Cherry), for example, is not a consequence of the purposeful policy of the modern leadership, aimed specifically at extermination. People in our country are not dying right now because they want to kill them. But because people, in general, just don't give a damn. True, you cannot say this in person, because it can lead to riots, unrest, and so on.

                As for your question about building a new socialism, I like it. This is the right question for any person who does not want to become worse than they are now. There are no guarantees. And it cannot be. Because one way or another there will be those who are against. There will be those who will defend their interests, such as a layer, for whom everything is normal, if not good. There will be defectors, sneaks, careerists and others. Much will depend on the conditions in which the construction process is going on, on the level of training of the builders themselves, on the presence and number of allies (countries where socialism is also built). True, we must also understand that the question is not whether we, the current inhabitants of Russia, should build socialism. We just won’t be able to build it, even if we have such a desire. This question will arise when the level of tension in society reaches such a level that there will be an explosion. And ordinary people (and not ordinary people who go to rallies at the urging of certain people) will try to lose power, simply because they can’t stand it anymore. Spontaneously. And then there will be a choice of options: which way to go: try to cover up the holes or completely rebuild the building.

                This is purely my personal opinion. True, clumsy, somehow I, in my opinion, outlined ...
                1. savage1976 April 21 2020 11: 31 New
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                  Good answer, thanks. Only then again everything will return to square one. The society of builders of a brighter future will be diluted with enthusiasts, sub-plains, careerists and simply striving for an easy life, and the builders will have their own children, and what kind of parent will not help set foot on the path of a good life. and again the division will begin of all that can be reached and everything will be in a circle. Paradise on earth is impossible, if only not to fall into hell.
                  1. Fanur Galiev April 21 2020 11: 38 New
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                    We will believe in progress. It took hundreds of thousands of years to go from the primitive system to slavery, thousands to feudalism and hundreds to capitalism. With characteristic changes. So let's see.
                    1. savage1976 April 21 2020 14: 09 New
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                      And yet, all these hundreds and thousands of years have not weaned a person from killing another person for a piece of grub and personal gain.
      3. EvilLion April 21 2020 08: 55 New
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        And so be it that there were no millions of dead. That was before the construction of factories and plants, because without tractors and fertilizers, hunger in central Russia was a regular and inevitable phenomenon. It’s not necessary to write delirium simply.

        And that era has no relation to the current one.
        1. savage1976 April 21 2020 09: 20 New
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          And what did the socialists do for 10 years that they could not build a tractor. Well, since it was a regular occurrence without a tractor, how did people live there for centuries and did not die out in millions, And they also mastered Siberia right up to Kamchatka, squeezed Crimea from the Turks, conquered Paris in 1814. And how is it all without tractors however. Without the socialists, apparently this was not all.
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            And what did the socialists do for 10 years that they could not build a tractor

            Well, one cannot deny the enormous work of communism in the agricultural economy: in 43 of the year, in 1956, they nevertheless reached harvest level 1913! yes

            And people, however, were able to eat and get dressed, as in 1913 (Report of the Central Statistical Bureau of the USSR 1955)!

            Is this not a tremulous CARE of the party about the people? yes

            author: Necessary rememberthat in the first Great Depression, when the capitalist world writhed in agony, the USSR-Russia prospered, we had an economic miracle

            Remember, author, remember. It is impossible to forget SUCH: "NKVD report 1933 g: YEY DISTRICT. Village Dolzhanskaya-gr. G **** ate the corpse of the dead sister's owl.
            In the same village it was established that group D ***, remaining after the death of his father and mother with young sisters and brothers, ate the meat of brothers and sisters who died of starvation.


            And this is already built socialism: NKVD report 1937 d: In Litvinovsky, Svishchevsky, Neverkinsky and Chembarsky districts 10 cases are noted starvation death. There are facts of swelling, eating meat of dead animals, various surrogates and diseases of collective farmers from malnutrition. In the Svishchevsky district, 62 facts of swelling of collective farmers from malnutrition were noted, in the Staro-Kulatkinsky district ...
            in the village Joy committed suicide collective farmer A. Zakharova with two newborn babies. for several days with a 13-year-old daughter lived in an unheated hut, without bread and other food. .. by the relatives of Zakharova who arrived in the furnace, two corpses of newborns and the corpse of Zakharova herself were found.


            and never forget.

      4. NordUral April 21 2020 10: 23 New
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        They learned the lies of Solzhenitsins well; there is no desire to think anymore.
    8. EvilLion April 21 2020 08: 52 New
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      There are no socialists in Russia. There are Grudinins and Platoshkins, animated characters of jokes. And grandfather Zu, who has been leading red round dances for almost 30 years without doing anything. In general, in the post-Stalin years, the CPSU turned into a parallel structure to the state, doing nothing but climbing everywhere, so any former party functionaries are useless for any work in principle.

      And as for the fundamental, well, the standard of living in Russia is now much higher than in the USSR, if you have not noticed. And everyone has cars, and apartments (here are miracles, you’ll also get a free Soviet apartment of FIGs, but everyone has money for mortgages), and holidays in Turkey, and in shops are everything that your heart desires. Putin arranged for you by some miracle exactly what the USSR was being broken for, and there are 20 kinds of sausages and there is no particular strain.
      1. Roman123567 April 21 2020 09: 34 New
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        And cars for everyone, and apartments

        Cars have nothing to do with it .. It has nothing to do with the standard of living !!

        A hundred years ago, in the deserts, caravans robbed camels with sabers .. now the barmalei on Toyotas are driving around with automatic weapons .. Does this mean that their political system has changed, a wise leader has appeared, and this has increased the standard of living ??
        Neither the first, nor the second, nor the third happened to them .. So stop writing this nonsense about cars ..

        My father got a free apartment twice .. In the year 85, he got a one-room apartment, in the 1s he managed to get a three-ruble note ..
        But my apartment is already in the mortgage .. and it’s nervousness and stress for any person for many years .. I’m silent about what’s happening right now during the “self-isolation”

        Putin arranged for you by some miracle exactly what the USSR was being broken for, and there are 20 kinds of sausages and there is no particular strain.

        For that matter, then “organized” all this is not Putin, but Yeltsin ..
        It was Yeltsin’s lot when the plowman stayed in one country, the miller in another, the baker in the third .. and the tractor in the fourth (to put it mildly) .. And in order to devour the bread, it was necessary to contrive ..
        I am an ardent opponent of EBN, but it’s worth recognizing that jeans, chewing gum and other nishtyaki are precisely his “merit”, and not Putin at all ..
        Putin has already arrived at everything ready ... the market economy was already established by then ..
        Putin’s only “merit” is oil prices ..
      2. NordUral April 21 2020 10: 26 New
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        And indeed the CPSU in post-Stalinist years has turned into a parallel structure to the state, doing nothing but climbing everywhere, so any former party functionaries are useless for any work in principle.

        I agree that it was precisely after the assassination of Stalin that everything started to go (he did not have time to shorten the party riffraff).
    9. Sckepsis April 21 2020 11: 19 New
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      A wonderful picture showing the whole ax: two comments side by side, an adequate one hundred minuses, delirium has a hundred pluses.
  2. Svarog April 20 2020 15: 31 New
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    Quote: Wend
    The crisis is not in Russia, but in the author’s head laughing

    Do you live in Russia? What do not observe the crisis? Amazing ..
    It is time for the socialists to pull the country out of the abyss .. The "reformers" began to play and eventually isolate themselves .. An urgent need to nationalize the entire oil and gas industry with energy and the sale of alcohol ..
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      . An urgent need to nationalize the entire oil and gas industry with energy and the sale of alcohol ..

      Listen, Comrade, what are you going to nationalize there and in whose favor? First, do not get confused in terminology, nationalization or confiscation? If you are going to nationalize something under the current system, then it means you have to pay money from the budget, that is, people’s, and then transfer it to someone, And here is the second and main point, to whom are you going to transfer the nationalized confiscated property in a privatized country? I hope you will make your own conclusions. hi
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        and then transfer to management to whom, And here is the second and main point, to whom are you going to transfer nationalized confiscated property in a privatized country?

        Correctly. First, the socialists must take over. Further nationalization, I personally would not mind confiscation. Because for 30 years, they have already stolen so much that they actually should remain. hi
        1. Dmitriy Vyazmenskiy April 20 2020 17: 19 New
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          Do not pass, but go! Sorry, but it really cuts ....
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            Quote: Dmitriy Vyazmenskiy
            Do not pass, but go! Sorry, but it really cuts ....

            Or maybe a person in the 50s studied and it’s hard for him to switch to a new form of writing, instead of come write come up, but in this case an obvious mistake. So far, my tongue doesn’t turn my back on attributing coffee to the middle family, and I often say “come”, although I know that this is not right at the moment. but what can you do - so we were taught and in many books of the subsequent time it was written come
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              Quote: dedusik
              come write come

              the main thing is not to get away from the essence! hi
        2. Fanur Galiev April 21 2020 07: 42 New
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          Recently, I myself came across the opinion that saying "nationalization" is not entirely correct. Because, if you look, the largest oil and gas companies, for example, are state-owned. And nationalization implies transfer under state control. It is better to use the concept of "socialization" - the redistribution of income so that it is not received by a handful of managers and shareholders, but the whole society.
          1. NordUral April 21 2020 10: 30 New
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            then the largest oil and gas companies, for example, are state-owned.
            A small part of the state, there the devil will break his leg, who owns what.
          2. Vadim237 April 21 2020 12: 05 New
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            The best owner is the one who creates the enterprise and production himself and also develops it.
            1. NordUral April 22 2020 11: 57 New
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              The best owner is the one who creates the enterprise and production himself and also develops it.

              Vadim, I’ll gladly put a very fat plus!
              And now list of the top "owners" of such.
      2. vavilon April 23 2020 00: 18 New
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        And when the privatization took place, then "gentlemen" paid a lot of money to the budget? ))))
        So here! for which they grabbed for the same and about we will repay and not a dime more)))
    2. edasko April 20 2020 16: 05 New
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      Urgent need to nationalize the entire oil and gas industry

      Is it to give Sechin chtol?
      1. Svarog April 20 2020 16: 12 New
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        Quote: edasko
        Urgent need to nationalize the entire oil and gas industry

        Is it to give Sechin chtol?

        Pick up from Sechin and Miller .. pick up .. confiscate.
        1. edasko April 20 2020 16: 20 New
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          Yeah, got it. And who will manage something enth all? Our state is friends of the guarantor. There is no one else .. We even have GUP "Ritual" has a specific owner.
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            Quote: edasko
            Yeah, got it. And who will manage something enth all? Our state is friends of the guarantor. There is no one else .. We even have GUP "Ritual" has a specific owner.

            Soviet power must rule! But naturally, socialists need to be supported.
            1. edasko April 20 2020 16: 28 New
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              In order for the Soviet power to form, there must be a revolution (otherwise they will not give it up), so that there is a revolution - there must be a real fighting party (it does not and will not be). What to do?
              1. Svarog April 20 2020 16: 36 New
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                Quote: edasko
                In order for the Soviet power to form, there must be a revolution (otherwise they will not give it up), so that there is a revolution - there must be a real fighting party (it does not and will not be). What to do?

                This is the most difficult stage .. Here, much will depend on the leaders, how the Communist Party will behave, Platoshkin, Grudinin .. if they can consolidate and protest, then much can change even without revolution .. I’m certainly for the evolutionary path and what would it be was just evolutionary, here the support of the population is needed. If 80% of citizens want to live under socialism and will actively support, then evolutionary changes are possible .. although it may be naive to think so ..
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                  This is a very difficult stage .. Especially if you focus on such a charm as Platoshkin or Grudinin.
                  1. Svarog April 20 2020 17: 11 New
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                    This is a very difficult stage .. Especially if you focus on such a charm as Platoshkin or Grudinin.

                    And who do you propose to focus on?
                    1. edasko April 20 2020 17: 23 New
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                      Of those whom the government itself is promoting - not for anyone. There is, for example, the deputy of the Saratov Regional Duma Nikolay Bondarenko. He doesn’t seem to be feeding up .. These people need to be supported. If you want to change life, you have to change it yourself, and not be guided. Get to know Bondarenko, suggest something .. You look at something and it starts to turn out. Only the thorny path hurts - they will beat the policemen with sticks on the head, and they will have to sit in prison. And sexots will appear nearby. In another way. Of course, I would like to pee letters in a cozy apartment to resolve problems of a global scale .. But it will not work. It’s better to reassure yourself - I’m going to the polls, but how I vote against them! So they are scared of me and they will give everything back that they stole ..
                    2. Svarog April 20 2020 17: 26 New
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                      Meet Bondarenko

                      Familiar with Bondarenko, energetic comrade ...
                    3. bober1982 April 20 2020 19: 49 New
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                      And sexots will appear nearby. No other way

                      Under the Soviet regime, by the way, every tenth Soviet citizen was a sexot; in the army, this percentage was much higher.
                      Quote: edasko
                      No other way

                      Exactly so, the more developed socialism, the more sexots. Under capitalism, they, excuse me, are fucking unnecessary.
                    4. edasko April 20 2020 20: 11 New
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                      Yes, of course not needed! They need any power. Otherwise, you will all agree to such an extent that it will not seem enough. The effectiveness of any special services in any country is based primarily on intelligence work. This is the alphabet.
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                      The effectiveness of any special services in any country is based primarily on intelligence work.

                      I agree, the more agents - the better, after 1991 the first thing they started to smash the KGB
                    6. edasko April 20 2020 20: 18 New
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                      Yes, no one was smashing him, half remained, the other half went away for businessmen. And one finally got to the very top.
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                      And one finally got to the very top.

                      Russia should have been “lucky" with the ruler, and this miracle happened.
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                Under the Soviet regime, by the way, every tenth Soviet citizen was a sexot; in the army, this percentage was much higher.

                Is this where you got such data from? Have you seen enough of the "fines"? In the army it is enough to have 1 person per unit, and certainly not every 9th ..
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                In the army it is enough to have 1 person per unit, and certainly not every 9th ..

                Well, if this person (as you put it) is an conscript, this is probably enough, the higher - the more, of course, if you are competently approached.
            2. NordUral April 22 2020 11: 50 New
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              As I understand it, you base this statement on the personal experience of the informer?
              He gave his motherland what was supposed to be, did not knock, did not knock on me, sat on my lip, but for a job and not knock Around me, no one was knocking and no one made organizational conclusions for us that one would think that one of us was knocking.
              If you knocked, this does not mean that others are knocking.
        2. AU Ivanov. April 20 2020 17: 44 New
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          On Sergei Novikov, deputy head of Khakassia. Also a member of the Communist Party.
        3. Romey April 20 2020 19: 03 New
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          The names of future leaders are not yet known to us. They will be put forward only by the emerging political situation. Which of us in the 14th year heard about the admissible Gubarev or Strelkov? At the moment, not one of the system parties, nor even more famous persons are able to unite around themselves. I, dear colleagues, believe that while we, patriots, left and right, need to unite around a common program, and the names will appear later.
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          I, dear colleagues, believe that while we, patriots, left and right, need to unite around a common program, and the names will appear later.

          I agree with this suggestion. At the moment, the main thing is to resign the parasites ..
      2. 210ox April 20 2020 20: 30 New
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        Unfortunately, Zyuganov and others like him spoiled and betrayed the Soviet, socialist system. The party needs a strong leader, and it is necessary to clear the Compromisers there.
    3. Vadim237 April 20 2020 17: 31 New
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      They have the same path and stage there, one crap the second has come - everything is phased.
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        Are you talking about power, 237th?
      2. Vadim237 April 21 2020 12: 09 New
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        This is me about everyone who is torn there from the so-called "communists"
      3. NordUral April 21 2020 12: 24 New
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        But in more detail, personally, can you blame Vadim?
        And I will quote from EP: https://pulse.mail.ru/?first_doc_id=5172073974018163054&first_source_id=6692206566593341883
  • NordUral April 22 2020 11: 46 New
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    And what did they not please you, Vasily?
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    Quote: Svarog
    Quote: edasko
    In order for the Soviet power to form, there must be a revolution (otherwise they will not give it up), so that there is a revolution - there must be a real fighting party (it does not and will not be). What to do?

    This is the most difficult stage .. Here, much will depend on the leaders, how the Communist Party will behave, Platoshkin, Grudinin .. if they can consolidate and protest, then much can change even without revolution .. I’m certainly for the evolutionary path and what would it be was just evolutionary, here the support of the population is needed. If 80% of citizens want to live under socialism and will actively support, then evolutionary changes are possible .. although it may be naive to think so ..

    Do you think someone will voluntarily give in good faith stolen? belay Prokhorov once openly said that if someone wants to cancel the results of privatization, the country will be washed with blood. The Bolsheviks in the 18th also did not plan any civil.
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    Here a lot of leaders will depend on how the Communist Party will behave, Platoshkin, Grudinin ..

    The same "United Russia" only side view. laughing
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      side view

      Weren't these “comrades” dragging out time with a deputy appeal to the Constitutional Court regarding the constitutionality of the pension “reform”?
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      The question is, from which side, because it’s also a view in the ass with a very high probability :)
  • Tank hard April 20 2020 21: 33 New
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    here the support of the population is needed.

    Yelling into the voice! Communist Party and the support of citizens of Russia. laughing
  • Digital error April 20 2020 23: 50 New
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    how the Communist Party will behave, Platoshkin, Grudinin

    To achieve the desired result, this is not enough. We need a more extensive consolidation of all left forces - from conditional Kurginyan to conditional Udaltsov. To hell with disagreements, it’s not the time for them, then they’ll split up into factions and scatter over committees, but that’s later.
  • Yehudi Menuhin April 21 2020 01: 20 New
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    Oh my god, what naivety! Svarog, apparently you are a very decent person. Only decent people can be so naive.
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    And there are guarantees that Grudinin, Platoshkina will not sit down in a place you know who and will not begin to fill their pockets? Or will they not choose the path of Gorbachev, Yeltsin, Gaidar? And with the remaining 20% ​​of those who disagree, what will you do? Didn’t fit in? Will you die out or help?
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      I have such confidence.
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        I am happy for you, but I have full confidence of 200% that we will again slide into complete anarchy, civil war, famine and will not be destined to return. We used all our chances in the 20th century and completely profiled them. People tend by nature to strive for a better, a better apartment (house), a car, a better wife, husband, a more expensive fur coat than a neighbor's. And even now having found several thousand people who do not need material wealth for themselves, but will strive for a better life for everyone, in a generation their ranks will be replenished by careerists, toadies, sloppies and everything will return to square one with another looting and redistribution of everything and everything.
      2. NordUral April 21 2020 11: 35 New
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        All that you described is the real state of affairs. And I’m sure that in the country there will be not several thousand, but tens of thousands of people who are able to lead the country out of the peak and will not get rid of it, savage1976.
      3. savage1976 April 21 2020 14: 11 New
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        And all these honest water people, reaching the feeder, start to fill their pockets :)
      4. NordUral April 21 2020 16: 55 New
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        Facts? I don’t argue, there will be such people (according to the same law of life - all rubbish sticks to sweets), but the new mass will work for the country and the people, as it was in the Union in its best years.
      5. savage1976 April 22 2020 02: 26 New
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        Here is the main fact, the whole history of the USSR. Its heyday and its collapse. And unfortunately, the socialists can only impose their power through blood and violence. In a competitive environment, they will not be able to confront other parties that give the individual a chance at success.
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        The post-Stalinist Communist Party has rotted so much, and not without the efforts of the khrushch who released and caressed those who subsequently poisoned the top and middle layer of the party with cadaveric poison. And then he killed the Union.
        It was the betrayal of the very top that led the country, or rather, the stub of the country today.
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        So I wrote about this, and it will manifest itself constantly. There was a man with an idea and believing in it, his careerist was replaced, his careerist was replaced by a sneak and there is no longer any place for an idea. Filling pockets.
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    Soviet power must rule!

    I have a feeling that you are completely unaware of what the Soviet regime was and where the name came from ... For the Soviet regime, first of all, strangely enough, you need the Soviets. Have you even seen a couple of tips in your immediate neighborhood? I’m talking about councils in which officials, and not ordinary people, would solve their domestic, social and other problems with the help of these councils ... Now when such councils arise in every city, village, enterprise - then we can talk about the transfer of power to them. In the meantime, the people do not really want to organize themselves into these very councils ... So far, they are more inclined toward the usual rebellion, senseless and merciless ...
  • AU Ivanov. April 20 2020 17: 53 New
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    Soviet power never controlled anything. She showed maximum approval, unanimously. The ordinary puppet in the hands of the kpsesovtsev. So, she has no management experience.
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      Ordinary puppet in the hands of the Special Forces

      In the State Duma and the Federation Council "through one" - members of the CPSU. This is for thought.
      1. AU Ivanov. April 21 2020 00: 13 New
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        Or Komsomol leaders. Those who, shouting "Hurray," went to business and who went to sham.
        1. NordUral April 21 2020 10: 46 New
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          The decayed CPSU gave rotten growth; he himself knew such in the 80s.
          1. AU Ivanov. April 21 2020 10: 50 New
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            As the party was taken out of control of the special services, it was rotten. Initially, a rotten organization - could not exist without constant monitoring and purges.
          2. NordUral April 21 2020 10: 52 New
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            Andrey, the parties are all like that. The more successful the party, the more rot it climbs for a warm little place. So the Stalinist purges are an objective factor in history.
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            There is such an opinion, based on facts, that Comrade Stalin wanted to remove the party from power altogether, leaving it with only ideological functions. And transfer all power to the Soviets, as declared in the Constitution of the USSR. Therefore, he soon died.
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            I agree, Andrew, could not and did not have time.
  • NordUral April 21 2020 10: 38 New
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    Being a communist and being a member of the CPSU is not always the same thing. And with these "In the State Duma and the Federation Council" through one "- members of the CPSU" this is exactly the case, Eugene.
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      just this case

      This is indisputable, but I had in mind management experience — both of them have it.
      1. NordUral April 21 2020 10: 43 New
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        The main thing is whether the members of the Communist Party are motivated. The former work for the country, the latter for themselves, and to the detriment of the country.
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        The main thing is motivation

        Now we understand each other correctly, Eugene hi
  • iouris April 20 2020 23: 59 New
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    The ordinary puppet in the hands of the kpsesovtsev.

    Propaganda stupidity does not need to throw. Or you don’t even know the history of your country.
    1. AU Ivanov. April 21 2020 00: 23 New
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      According to the Constitution of the USSR, the highest authority is the USSR Armed Forces. And who actually controlled the country? Sun Chairs? Kalinin, Mikoyan, Voroshilov, Shvernik? Or all the same, Stalin, Khrushchev, Brezhnev. (Brezhnev combined posts, I am in the know) So: in the country of Soviets, oddly enough, there was no Soviet power. There was the power of the CPSU and the Political Bureau made key decisions, and the Armed Forces, and the Soviets of all levels, were essentially decorative bodies dancing to the tune of the party.
  • Digital error April 20 2020 16: 52 New
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    Our state is friends of the guarantor.

    Louis XIV, the sun king, is credited with the phrase "the state is me."
    According to Wikipedia, the result of the whole system of Louis XIV was the economic ruin and poverty of France ...
    1. edasko April 20 2020 17: 08 New
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      Louis was a monarch, which means he had every right to say so. But ruin and poverty also occurred among other monarchs. Here our emperor used to say - "We, Nicholas II ..", so here it’s generally a mess .. Who his state is and how many there are, is unclear ..
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        Here our emperor used to say - "We, Nicholas II .."

        Quote: edasko
        It’s not clear who his state is and how many there are ..

        This is from the official title, as you put it, not only Nicholas II used to say ........ Tsar of Georgia, Tsar of Siberia, Tsar of Poland, and further on the title, listing - it will take a lot of time.
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        Louis was a monarch, which means he had every right to say so.

        and with us - not so?
        Monarchy (Latin monarchia from other Greek. Μοναρχία "autocracy" <μόνος "single, single" + ἀρχή "power, domination") - a form of government or government, in which the supreme state power partially or fully belongs to the person - the monarch holding the post of head of state and wearing the corresponding title.
        What we do not meet this definition?
        DG and SF- power? - No, the screen. deputies of all levels of power? - No, a sham.
        Where does the country make decisions? For oil, for example, or about war and peace? request
        What is the title is not important. the essence is the content
        1. Romey April 20 2020 19: 12 New
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          Colleague, here I do not agree with you. The point is different. Here to take the late Nikolai Alexandrovich. Yes, he made a lot of stupidities and mistakes, but to call him an enemy and a pest language does not turn. Unlike you yourself understand ...
        2. iouris April 21 2020 00: 10 New
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          In an article on authority, Marx showed that the principle of unity of command has an objective character. There is no point arguing about this. Where there is no unity of command, management is impossible there and the management system is degrading. At the same time, “from above” statements like “Peacefully, everything is under control!” In fact, "from above" only observe the system (at best). Another question is how the selection and change of one-man executives takes place. This is where the "dog rummaged."
          By the way, in American "control" is control. Management includes observation in the sense of collecting and transmitting data to organize feedback on the state of the control object and subsystems of the lower level. The flaw of the system in which we found ourselves is the lack of feedback since data is often not information, but noise.
  • NordUral April 21 2020 10: 32 New
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    To begin with, we don’t have a state, Vasily. A gang of thieves settled on top and pretends that they are the state.
  • AU Ivanov. April 20 2020 17: 50 New
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    Since when has Sechin been the owner of Rosneft, is he not even a majority? Hired employee.
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      Quote: AU Ivanov.
      Since when has Sechin been the owner of Rosneft, is he not even a majority? Hired employee.

      His salary is too good for an employee.
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        Envy silently. As if you would refuse such a salary. So he did not refuse.
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          Quote: AU Ivanov.
          Envy silently. As if you would refuse such a salary. So he did not refuse.

          You apparently hurt your head. In all such state corporations, salaries with seven, eight zeros, plus dividends from directors, are a hidden appropriation of surplus value, the average salary of workers is several orders of magnitude lower, you think this is social justice.
          1. AU Ivanov. April 20 2020 19: 39 New
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            The salaries of managers are set at the general meeting of shareholders. What's wrong?
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              Quote: AU Ivanov.
              The salaries of managers are set at the general meeting of shareholders. What's wrong?

              Can you tell me how the votes are distributed at the general meeting of shareholders? And who are the main shareholders? Probably workers? Apparently they are they appointing such a salary?
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            Therefore, the salaries of ordinary workers of Rosneft are also a hidden appropriation of surplus value. All select, share and shoot all?
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          So he did not refuse

          He was “forced” to her so that he would not run to the competitors over the hill smile
          Supervaluable personnel with unique experience must be protected, that’s what motivates ...
    2. Karabin April 20 2020 19: 52 New
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      he is not even a majority

      This is by law. And according to the notions of Putin’s political bureau, the majority and what else.
      1. AU Ivanov. April 20 2020 19: 59 New
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        With a share of Rosneft in 0.08%? Yeah, the majority. Almost a controlling stake holder.
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          With a share of Rosneft in 0.08%?

          What is the difference how many shares he has? His income and share in the company is determined not at all by stocks, but by his proximity to the sun and Ko.
          1. AU Ivanov. April 20 2020 20: 16 New
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            Do not have a hundred rubles, and a hundred friends.
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              Do not have a hundred rubles, but have a hundred friends

              Not so: do not have a hundred rubles, but have one brazen face. I'm not talking about you, or even about your opponent - I just remembered from childhood request laughing
              1. AU Ivanov. April 20 2020 20: 32 New
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                Everyone forgets the ending of the classic proverb, and it sounds like this: “Do not have a hundred rubles, but have a hundred friends - there will be a thousand rubles”
                Insolent erysipelas is also a kind of talent.
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                have one brazen face

                How many of them are still in Moscow and in St. Petersburg forests ...
                Bad advice, however, give stop
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              and have a hundred friends.
              That's it. But what about the insignificant 0.08% of the shares?
              1. AU Ivanov. April 20 2020 20: 44 New
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                Communication is a business and it’s as much your capital as education and qualifications.
              2. Karabin April 20 2020 21: 15 New
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                Communication is a business
                Yes, who would argue with common truth. In our state realities, education and qualifications are often not needed. Romanist philologist, teacher of Portuguese and French - the main oilman, journalist - the main cosmonaut, etc., etc. But we deviated from the topic. Will you still insist on Sechin’s role as an “employee”?
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                The Executive Director is an employee.
                As for the profile education, in our USSR, the shoemakers of the NKPS were also in charge. Nothing new.
              4. Karabin April 20 2020 22: 28 New
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                The Executive Director is an employee.
                In this case, on paper. In fact, much more. One of the actual owners. At least until the GDP from the chair is not flooded. (In this case, I think the parachute is prepared). At the same time, Rosneft, such as a state-owned company.
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                In fact, Sechin is not the master, but the beholder, as they say in certain circles.
          2. Golovan Jack April 20 2020 23: 00 New
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            Novel philologist, teacher of Portuguese and French - main oilman

            ... and also, for example, "spent" 4 years in Angola ... do you know what Angola is, "Carabiner"?

            I don’t use figs from the opposition - they write only what is beneficial for them, and when you poke their nose - they make surprised eyes: "what about us sho ???" negative
          3. New Year day April 20 2020 23: 32 New
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            you know what is angola

            tell us Roman .....
            In 83, a military translator from Angola was dying; he was telling me something.
            A classmate fought on the other hand, also told
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            tell us Roman .....

            What do you mean? Conversation with the "Carabiner" ...

            That's it, I'm horizontal, call hi
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    for April 20 2020 16: 48 New
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    nationalize the entire oil and gas industry with energy and alcohol sales

    Quote: Svarog
    nationalize the entire oil and gas industry with energy and alcohol sales

    Nationalization according to the modern change of ownership in Russia.
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      Nationalization according to the modern change of ownership in Russia.

      The owner of natural resources, oil, gas, energy ... should be the people. Then the slogan "Public property" will not sound like a mockery ...
      In another way, all revenues should go into the pocket of the state, and TOP managers should receive a fair, adequate salary. Well, let's say 5-8 times more than the national average ..
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        Quote: Svarog
        Quote: for
        Nationalization according to the modern change of ownership in Russia.

        The owner of natural resources, oil, gas, energy ... should be the people. Then the slogan "Public property" will not sound like a mockery ...
        In another way, all revenues should go into the pocket of the state, and TOP managers should receive a fair, adequate salary. Well, let's say 5-8 times more than the national average ..

        laughing naivety, in its extreme expression, becomes stupid.
        Equalization could not take root and give an effective economy anywhere. There is no need to lament about the CPSU and the USSR, it all died because of inefficiency and leveling.
        We don’t need the balloons here, it was already enough.
  • Vend April 20 2020 16: 55 New
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    Quote: Wend
    The crisis is not in Russia, but in the author’s head laughing

    Do you live in Russia? What do not observe the crisis? Amazing ..
    It is time for the socialists to pull the country out of the abyss .. The "reformers" began to play and eventually isolate themselves .. An urgent need to nationalize the entire oil and gas industry with energy and the sale of alcohol ..

    I live in Russia and imagine comparing it with the crisis of the 90s, I see a huge difference.
    1. Romey April 20 2020 19: 42 New
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      I'm afraid you can’t imagine ... Then there was still a Soviet backlog, more enterprises worked, albeit with delays and inflation, one way or another paid pensions and salaries. In the village there was an opportunity to feed on the household. But if something like this happened now ... Yes, you will simply be thrown out for debts from your mortgage apartments and dropped out of credit auto-buckets, of which you are so proud to die of hunger on the street.
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        That is exactly what the socialists with a very rather large part of the USSR population did in 1932-1933. Want to take their place?
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        I'm afraid you can’t imagine ... Then there was still a Soviet backlog, more enterprises worked, albeit with delays and inflation, one way or another paid pensions and salaries. In the village there was an opportunity to feed on the household. But if something like this happened now ... Yes, you will simply be thrown out for debts from your mortgage apartments and dropped out of credit auto-buckets, of which you are so proud to die of hunger on the street.

        With a delay of three months, or even half a year, they paid off and rent debts grew and the light with gas was turned off for non-payment. Here they couldn’t evict according to the law, yes.
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    Well go, select and nationalize ...
    I wonder who will give you this ...
  • Tank hard April 20 2020 21: 28 New
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    It's time for the socialists to pull the country out of the abyss ..

    Well, who are our socialists? Please, by name. wink
    1. Golovan Jack April 20 2020 21: 29 New
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      Quote: Tank Hard
      Quote: Svarog
      It's time for the socialists to pull the country out of the abyss ..

      Well, who are our socialists? Please, by name. wink

      Tank, hi

      Who are you asking? At the bot? belay
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        Who are you asking? At the bot?

        hi Jack, is everything so bad with him? belay
        1. Golovan Jack April 20 2020 21: 48 New
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          is everything so bad with him?


          There ... funny yes
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            There ... funny

            Yeah, there’s an Atalef similar ... hi
  • CSKA April 20 2020 15: 56 New
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    The crisis is not in Russia, but in the author’s head

    Another month of quarantine has not passed, only recently oil prices have dropped, and the author:
    The global global financial system is collapsing. Oil system.
    Production stops, unemployment, poverty and crime are growing rapidly.
    Can he bother to give examples ?!
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      Can he bother to give examples ?!


      This is how the world’s fires inflate and someone started it, and therefore they write without concrete examples ...
      1. rocket757 April 20 2020 18: 00 New
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        A pointless debate, a solid theory ... if only Soviet textbooks would be honored before he threatens with "great accomplishments."
        Again, well, the epidemic will not go anywhere, you have to fight it, otherwise the consequences will be much worse.
        I, in some cases, disagree with the actions of the authorities, but basically everything is aimed at preserving, not destroying. Not without errors, but not in the worst way.
        Change right now, this is clearly making it worse.
        You can just wait, but you can take it and help the country survive this crisis! After all, everything will be counted in the future.
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          What are you, but how can I "destroy the whole world before I was founded, and then ..." soup and not the fact that it’s with a cat, because they will not be enough for everyone either.
          1. rocket757 April 21 2020 02: 02 New
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            Just a virus, I like it less than this power. The choice, or maybe an elementary order ... we solve problems as they become significant.
            Moreover, with a virus the problem can be solved easier and faster ....
            1. savage1976 April 21 2020 02: 54 New
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              With this virus, on the other hand, all the ins and outs of the little people immediately became visible. They began to shake about their skins, and before that only about their humiliated and deprived thoughts were. :)
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                In an extreme situation, it is usually known who is ... who!
                We must end the virus, we have plenty to do !!! V.h. ask some for how they showed themselves in this situation too !!
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          Quote: rocket757
          Pointless argument, solid theory ... even if the Soviet textbooks were revered before they threatened with "great accomplishments."
          Again, well, the epidemic not going anywhere, it is necessary to fight it otherwisethe consequences will be much worse.
          I, in some cases, with actions authorities disagreebut mostly everything is aimed at preserving, not destroying. Not without errors, but also not worse.
          Change right now, this is clearly making it worse.
          You can just wait, but you can take and help the country survive this crisis! After all, everything will be counted in the future.

          Absolutely sound position, balanced and calm.
          So I think it shouldhi
          1. rocket757 April 21 2020 12: 06 New
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            Welcome soldier
            We have a lot of haste, besides illiterate, in a hurry to catch fish in troubled waters! I look, have already noted, "appreciated"!
            Therefore, I remind everyone that learning is not very harmful, because you see they’ll break firewood, after all, the whole world will have to rake it!
            Those who were bought with giblets, only mine ... force to work with your hands, Schaub to corns, labor, and then send on all four sides, if only they would not interfere underfoot, if they do not understand that BREAK DO NOT BUILD, we are completely breaking do not.
            And it’s necessary to build, too, so that this time everything works out as it should!
            I would like to admonish those who simply did not understand what and who collects them in a "campaign" on ....
            In short, not to break, but to build, build that which is not ashamed to hand to descendants.
  • Golovan Jack April 20 2020 16: 58 New
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    Quote: Wend
    The crisis is not in Russia, but in the author’s head

    Surname obliges (I am on the content of the article). From the first two paragraphs, I realized who it is. Flipped down, and realized that he was not mistaken winked
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    The same topic, the same author, the same nonsense - Polit 3D Samsonova.
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      Quote: Vadim237
      The same topic, the same author, the same nonsense - Polit 3D Samsonova.

      Apparently, he was writing an article in a state close to starving for a swoon, due to a sharp decrease in consumption, they ate all the buckwheat.
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        No, probably from the toilet paper it got stupid - I decided to make a sausage according to Soviet guests of the late 80s.
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    Actually - what do we see? Putin’s much-praised vertical power in a crisis doesn’t work. The worst thing is that they simply started to send Nolbolshoy .. Because he violated the commander’s main rule - never give orders that you are not able to force to execute .. But he gives such orders because he does not know what to do. He cannot and does not want to share, but without it, panic, despair and a mess begin in the country. And so - in all countries. Conclusion - a classic general crisis of capitalism and a type of democracy .. With all that it implies ..
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    The USSR flourished during the Great Depression !! There was no famine! Disposal of money is a fake! It's just that the country, in the framework of a healthy lifestyle, decided to lose weight and stopped eating. Apparently, the consequences of that prosperity influenced the psychiatry of the author, leading to outpourings of such nonsense.
  • Gost2012 April 22 2020 11: 27 New
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    The crisis is not in Russia, but in the author’s head laughing

    I support, KG / AM
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    The author, how to say ... seems to have been slightly "re-insulated" ... wassat
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    1. Okolotochny April 20 2020 17: 39 New
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      I support alarmists, mourners ... to volunteers and help doctors. As Count Orlov once fought with the plague in Moscow, he released "dashing people" from prison and forth!
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        Quote: Okolotochny
        I support alarmists, mourners ... to volunteers and help doctors.

        Are real heroes coming from behind?
        1. Okolotochny April 20 2020 18: 25 New
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          Are real heroes coming from behind?

          I do not consider myself to be heroes, heroes are doctors. I think that at such a time being holy fools for hype is not good. At such a time, it is necessary to discard all your political preferences and couch dumas about the arrangement of Russia, to comply with laws and other by-laws, they are written "blood", the lives of our fellow citizens, and arrange their political dances against this background immoral, especially for those who blame this is the country's leadership. For myself, I think it’s right to calmly do my job.
          1. New Year day April 20 2020 18: 30 New
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            Quote: Okolotochny
            the heroes are doctors.

            thanks for appreciating our contribution
            Quote: Okolotochny
            comply with laws and other by-laws, they are written "blood"

            only bosses do not comply with these laws, at least to take the simplest thing. 221 of the Labor Code of the Russian Federation
            so
            Quote: Okolotochny
            spelled "blood", the lives of our fellow citizens,
            and doctors.
            In Italy, more than 120 doctors died, 2 committed suicide after being diagnosed.
            How many doctors have got sick or died? Today I looked at my hospital, more than 2 dozen, and these are the ones I know.
            So our sins of power are corrected by our blood
            1. Okolotochny April 20 2020 18: 35 New
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              and doctors.

              You do not rank doctors among our citizens? I meant them first of all.
              only bosses do not comply with these laws

              So the family is not without a freak, and the President spoke about this. But what to do with this? - Yesterday Vatsap’s wife shows, and there are “Easter kebabs” in nature, on the banks of the Kuban! What is it like? Moreover, rural stanitsa residents, who have their own farmsteads, are well equipped with barbecue areas, gathering areas, etc. Why blame power all the time when we ourselves are the same?
              1. New Year day April 20 2020 18: 41 New
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                Quote: Okolotochny
                You do not rank doctors among our citizens? I meant them first of all.

                and among our heroes we have not only Russian citizens. Next to us is a citizen of Kyrgyzstan. For instance.
                Quote: Okolotochny
                and there are "Easter kebabs" in nature, on the banks of the Kuban! What is it like?

                this is what the state wanted in educating the population, do not care. The authorities said: themselves. Who lowered the doctors below the sewer? - Power and citizens. Now the heroes. So, what kind of power, such citizens. What goes around comes around.
                1. Okolotochny April 20 2020 18: 46 New
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                  this is what the state wanted in educating the population, do not care.

                  And before it was not so? Let's remember the rise to power of Andropov. Do you remember raids on cinemas and other vacation spots? Our people have always been like that. And in the Second World War, the negligent and the jackal were also missing, in the markets who sold underfloor products? Americans, capitalists, liberoids?
                  1. New Year day April 20 2020 18: 51 New
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                    Quote: Okolotochny
                    And before it was not so?

                    I will not say for everyone, but after the 17th Komsomol Congress I almost left the BAM
                2. Golovan Jack April 20 2020 19: 10 New
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                  Quote: Silvestr
                  what power, such and citizens

                  Everything is correct, just the opposite (s) yes

                  Quote: Silvestr
                  after the 17th Komsomol Congress I almost left the BAM to build

                  Great and powerful is our Russian language! What passage - "almost" belay

                  It reads correctly: "I have not left." Other - lyrics request
                  1. AU Ivanov. April 20 2020 20: 49 New
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                    It reads like this: I wanted to go to BAM for a long ruble. Not fused. The Komsomol congress here is no more than an excuse; this passage could have been missed.
                    1. New Year day April 20 2020 21: 49 New
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                      Quote: AU Ivanov.
                      It reads like this: I wanted to go to BAM for a long ruble. Not fused.

                      at the age of 17 under the Union, the concept of “long ruble” seemed to be only in your head. Fartsovshchik see, we measure everything by ourselves
                      1. AU Ivanov. April 20 2020 22: 15 New
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                        But why? I deliberately requested a distribution after flying school to the Far North. Motivation: a high salary - that same long ruble, good flight practice and fast career growth, in the middle lane it is unattainable. I am a realist and have never been fed ideas.
                      2. New Year day April 20 2020 23: 28 New
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                        Quote: AU Ivanov.
                        Motivation: a high salary - that same long ruble, good flight practice and fast career growth, in the middle lane it is unattainable. I am a realist and have never been fed ideas.

                        and my motivation was to treat people for 110 rubles a month. I fed on this idea and the idea of ​​becoming a good doctor. Do you catch the difference?
                3. New Year day April 20 2020 21: 51 New
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                  Quote: Golovan Jack
                  It reads correctly: "I have not left." Other - lyrics

                  right, Roman, did not leave. Because the mother did not let. For me, the authority of my mother and now the authority. But in fact, she was right.
                  You see parents - not authority
                  1. Golovan Jack April 20 2020 21: 53 New
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                    Quote: Silvestr
                    right Roman didn’t leave

                    Sylvester, then why force with what was not? I, too, can write a lot to you that could have happened to me, but it wasn’t ... but I’m not writing, no?

                    Not manly it somehow. And not even patsansky.

                    IMHO hi
                    1. New Year day April 20 2020 23: 31 New
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                      Quote: Golovan Jack
                      Sylvester, then why force with what was not?

                      I'm talking about my state of mind, impulse. Is that feeling alien to you? And the implementation of the impulse depends on many components and often beyond our control.
                      so that
                      Quote: Golovan Jack
                      Not manly it somehow. And not even patsansky.

                      everyone decides to the extent of his upbringing. And you, Roman, what was your dream at 17? What did you want to become? But only without clowning around!
                    2. Amateur April 21 2020 08: 08 New
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                      105-110-115 rubles was the standard salary of any "young specialist" after graduation. The intrigue was only in what part of the USSR you will receive it after distribution.
                  2. Olgovich April 21 2020 11: 09 New
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                    Quote: Golovan Jack
                    Sylvester, then why force with what was not?

                    Also do not understand, brag about ..... what was not. belay request

                    My neighbor, nevertheless, went to the virgin lands, distorted her life, except that he doesn’t remember his "impulse" ...
                  3. Gost2012 April 22 2020 11: 40 New
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                    Quote: Golovan Jack
                    Quote: Silvestr
                    right Roman didn’t leave

                    Sylvester, then why force with what was not? I, too, can write a lot to you that could have happened to me, but it wasn’t ... but I’m not writing, no?

                    Not manly it somehow. And not even patsansky.

                    IMHO hi

                    No, well, because I wanted to ... I almost did it now laughing
    2. Leo_59 April 20 2020 18: 44 New
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      Exactly, - with buckwheat and a notebook, or even with ...
  • Karabin April 20 2020 19: 56 New
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    Quote: Ezekiel 25-17
    Order 227 in force

    It is still necessary to give it. And the one who is supposed to give such orders hid somewhere.
    1. Malyuta April 20 2020 20: 31 New
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      Quote: Karabin
      It is still necessary to give it. And the one who is supposed to give such orders hid somewhere.

      He fearlessly prepares appeals, being in an orange house and asks to treat this with understanding.
  • Vadim237 April 20 2020 21: 46 New
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    When will the order number 666 come out.
  • Alexga April 20 2020 15: 15 New
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    I would not like to believe that it will be so, but there is some truth. In any case, it is very believable.
    1. Albert1988 April 20 2020 15: 47 New
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      Quote: AlexGa
      I would not like to believe that it will be so, but there is some truth. In any case, it is very believable.

      We need to learn to distinguish between “believable” and “unscientific fiction,” for example, a quote from the text:

      "In particular, under the pretext of fighting the virus, Bill Gates has already proposed a global project to chip people through vaccination."

      This nonsense is again being circulated - Gates fantasizes on the topic of future "promising" technologies, which may not appear even for 50-100 years, which was what the whole conscious life has been doing, not so long ago he talked about "programming bacteria", which is now only -just learn to do ...

      This is just one example. In general, I liked the phrase in one “article” that the current crisis is “the worst crisis in the history of modern Russia, its depth and duration are still unknown, but, without a doubt, it is the most difficult”.
      It’s clear that life isn’t sugar right now, that it’s impossible to work normally, and comprador incompetent authorities can only obscurely bleat from the screens ... But hitting the hysterical apocalyptic is extremely unwise in a situation where sober mind is needed more than ever!
      1. depressant April 20 2020 17: 59 New
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        Albert 1988 colleague!
        The author, of course, exaggerates, or anticipates events. Why did I respond specifically to your post? Because you used the word "fiction". Yes, I had the same feeling. I read and seemed to plunge into the atmosphere of a blockbuster warning. I’ve taken a horror! I looked out the window, and the parking lots in front of the house were empty. Either the people went out to work together, or the machines were taken away for non-payment of loans. And nobody waves either red or white flags. And such a peaceful sky above your head! ..
        But, you know what? At one time, no one could believe like that the USSR was no more, that the next morning they woke up in another country and even in a different socio-economic reality. I fully admit that frogs, that is, we, along the way in a solution of coronavirus, are boiled slowly so as not to jump out. Here the author writes: "All available resources will be exhausted." I would add a gold reserve here. Evil tongues claim that the stock is exported to London. Yes, in fact, no one really hid this. Either some private owner transported tons of bullion, then Nabiullina officially sold 115 tons of gold or something like that. And without the press, how much? How shoud I understand this? Evacuation? In general, the movement is on, it is obvious. However, we see only ripples on the surface of domestic political water, and what is happening in its terrible, muddy depths is unknown. And I’m very afraid that on one disgusting day we will again find ourselves in a different reality, much worse than you can imagine.
        1. Albert1988 April 20 2020 18: 13 New
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          Quote: depressant
          The author, of course, exaggerates, or anticipates events. Why did I respond specifically to your post? Because you used the word "fiction". Yes, I had the same feeling. I read and seemed to plunge into the atmosphere of a blockbuster warning. Already took the horror!

          That's it! These articles are harmful and harmful - they sow panic and psychosis, about which the author himself painstakingly and cynically writes! Now, as air must be calm, lose your head!
          Quote: depressant
          She looked out the window, and the parking lots in front of the house were empty. Either the people went out to work together, or the machines were taken away for non-payment of loans. And nobody waves either red or white flags. And such a peaceful sky above your head! ..

          Exactly, though the weather has let us down, rain and snow hail regularly pouring from the peaceful sky in my city and region)))) But the parking lots in front of my house are just the opposite - everyone is jammed, it’s good that my swallow is in the underground garage ))) But people still go decently to work - in the direction of Moscow, so the noble stream goes!
          Quote: depressant
          But, you know what? At one time, no one could believe like that the USSR was no more, that the next morning they woke up in another country and even in a different socio-economic reality. I fully admit that frogs, that is, we, along the way in a solution of coronavirus, are boiled slowly so as not to jump out.

          You need to understand what? That coronavirus is not a controlled phenomenon - the global elites need this crisis as cavers collapse! This mixed up all the cards for them and led to enormous losses and a crisis, the scale of which is generally impossible to predict!
          Quote: depressant
          Here the author writes: "All available resources will be exhausted." I would add a gold reserve here. Evil tongues claim that the stock is exported to London.

          Evil tongues claim that "the Earth will fly on the celestial axis!" (Tm), so listen less to all sorts of languages ​​there))))
          Quote: depressant
          Yes, in fact, no one really hid this. Either some private owner transported tons of bullion, then Nabiullina officially sold 115 tons of gold or something like that.

          So let's start from the facts - the private trader moved his gold, they spoke clearly and in essence about the sales of part of the gold. Rumors are now a phenomenon not only not useful, but also harmful! so my advice to you is to focus only on specific confirmed facts!
          Quote: depressant
          In general, the movement is on, it is obvious.

          Again - it is “obvious" to some that the earth is flat ... So once again, advice - let's rely only on iron facts!
          Quote: depressant
          And I’m very afraid that on one disgusting day we will again find ourselves in a different reality, much worse than you can imagine.

          No one is safe from this, in the end, scientists can blink some mega-asteroid or huge comet ... So to intimidate yourself in advance is a thankless task!
        2. New Year day April 20 2020 18: 21 New
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          Quote: depressant
          Evacuation?

          Maybe. Judge for yourselves: the Saudis entered the peak in oil prices and Salman froze all megaprojects. We have all megaprojects saved. The size of gold and foreign exchange reserves is approximately equal, but the population of Arabia is much smaller than ours. Question: why such different approaches? It is clear that the population will get crumbs in our case
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            Quote: Silvestr
            Judge for yourselves: the Saudis entered the peak in oil prices and Salman froze all megaprojects. We have all megaprojects saved.

            Dear Sylvester! What do you mean by megaprojects? And then - what mega-projects in Saudi Arabia? Construction of another well or another skyscraper / palace? And who are implementing these projects? That's right - imported Indian-Indonesian workers! Here, for example, freeze the same “Angara” - what will happen? That's right - a lot of people sit down without work ... Do you want to make the situation worse?
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              Quote: Albert1988
              Want to make things worse?

              but does it really depend on me? I have given two behaviors of two rival states.
              With regards to megaprojects ...
              Ours are known to you.
              My question is, why are there so different behaviors of states in the economic crisis?
              1. Albert1988 April 20 2020 23: 54 New
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                Quote: Silvestr
                Ours are known to you.
                My question is, why are there so different behaviors of states in the economic crisis?

                Just because the Arabs work ONLY Gaster! Yes, and they have money ONLY from oil! Indians and Malaysians DO NOT work on the same “Angara” with us! Sylvester! You are an educated person! You can understand such simple things! Stop any project - "Angara", "Armata", Su-57 - how many people will sit without money? That's it!
          2. aleksejkabanets April 20 2020 19: 54 New
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            Quote: Silvestr
            Maybe. Judge for yourselves: the Saudis entered the peak in oil prices and Salman froze all megaprojects. We have all megaprojects saved. The size of gold and foreign exchange reserves is approximately equal, but the population of Arabia is much smaller than ours. Question: why such different approaches? It is clear that the population will get crumbs in our case

            Lived, we have to compare Russia with Saudi Arabia.
            1. New Year day April 20 2020 21: 33 New
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              Quote: aleksejkabanets
              Lived, we have to compare Russia with Saudi Arabia.

              propose to compare Russia with anyone in a dispute over the price of oil? - Two interested in one dispute.
              1. Vadim237 April 20 2020 21: 50 New
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                An idiotic comparison, however, is a pug that lives in heat and a mammoth living in the north.
                1. New Year day April 20 2020 21: 52 New
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                  Quote: Vadim237
                  a pug that lives in warmth and a mammoth living in the north.

                  for oil, however, they fight
              2. aleksejkabanets April 20 2020 23: 32 New
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                Quote: Silvestr
                propose to compare Russia with anyone in a dispute over the price of oil? - Two interested in one dispute.

                I mean that Russia, recently the "Energy Superpower", but simply, a raw materials appendage of more developed countries.
          3. alone April 20 2020 20: 39 New
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            the population will get crumbs in our case

            As usual ... Where did you see ordinary people with bold slices?
      2. Alexga April 20 2020 19: 44 New
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        I try to express only my personal opinion, here about this:
        "In particular, under the pretext of fighting the virus, Bill Gates has already proposed a global project to chip people through vaccination."

        I envy those specialists who created software for digital passports from scratch, from scratch, another question is how much all this is necessary. Then they created a database of Muscovites and others to enter the capital. The Ministry of Internal Affairs has no such data. Everything is there, and addresses, and passport data, and places of work, and transport! And who else owns all this is another question. It seems that the data for the Interbank Identification System is somewhere close. And you say, Bill Gates. The bonanza, with doubtful need. There is also a chipization of the population nearby.
        1. Albert1988 April 20 2020 20: 04 New
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          I envy those specialists who created software for digital passports from scratch

          Digital passports are already issued - there was an order, and there are a lot of specialists who will tear themselves in one place, but will do everything in half an hour to grab a gold contract.
          Quote: AlexGa
          Then they created a database of Muscovites and others to enter the capital. The Ministry of Internal Affairs has no such data.

          But the FSB has such a base! I once communicated with one interesting FSB officer - and so, they can find out about anyone. anything in half an hour - he arguably gave me complete information about the place of work, residence and the marital status of my classmate, whom I had not seen for about 15 years ... Note - without any chip, etc. - the tip was just at the educational institution where the citizen once studied! Then I really became scared!
          Quote: AlexGa
          Everything is there, and addresses, and passport data, and places of work, and transport! And who else owns all this is another question.

          The FSB owns this)))
          Quote: AlexGa
          It seems that the data for the Interbank Identification System is somewhere close.

          Not close, but already here - banks can instantly learn a lot about you, about your income / property / credit history, they don’t have a single base yet, yes, but there are already methods for obtaining information ...
          Quote: AlexGa
          And you say, Bill Gates.

          Billy loves to just dream up - he already does not solve anything, but as a consultant he works out in his own office, and yes - the technologies go and go quickly, especially digital ones, although there are problems, but you don’t have to draw fiction at all.
          Quote: AlexGa
          There is also a chipization of the population nearby.

          next, I agree. only to monitor a person using such a chip, you also need to install equipment everywhere that will scan it, because it is not a smartphone. he does not have enough power.
          1. Alexga April 20 2020 22: 37 New
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            If, of course, the FSB did the software, then there are no questions, and the telephone companies that receive and process millions of SMS with data also do not work for free, it’s a profitable business. Time will tell if these databases will be available for sale. The question is the appropriateness of all this and the price of the question.
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              If, of course, the FSB did the software, then there are no questions

              The FSB does not need to make a program - they hired third-party specialists for this - professionals in this area are a dime a dozen, and the money for such a program will amount to tens of millions, if not hundreds! The FSB was obviously responsible for filling the database with info ...

              Quote: AlexGa
              Yes, and telephone companies that receive and process millions of SMS with data also do not work for free, it’s a profitable business.

              They are obliged to do this! The same FSB! Do you think it’s just that they fought against telegrams? And they took up arms from the fact that even its creators wanted to eat, they won’t be able to give anything out to anyone - such a method of encryption, and the competent authorities contemplated it)))

              Quote: AlexGa
              Time will tell if these databases will be available for sale.

              A lot of things may appear on sale that hackers have hacked, but here, firstly, the case is serious - hackers can also shorten the hacker after hacking, and secondly, everyone who needs the same banks will have access to this data just by request in FSB. If in our country elite schools can check whether their students were resting abroad instead of classes, and then they brought a certificate they bought that they were sick ...

              Quote: AlexGa
              The question is the appropriateness of all this and the price of the question.

              The feasibility is obvious - the state’s total control over citizens is quiet and invisible, but absolute ... This "digital concentration camp" with "electronic collars" will come, but not immediately and overnight, as the supporters of the conspiracy theory try to convince us, but gradually and slowly , as a result of a long and painstaking work. Another 5-10 years, I think, and we will all see ...
    2. CSKA April 20 2020 15: 59 New
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      Quote: AlexGa
      I would not like to believe that it will be so, but there is some truth. In any case, it is very believable.

      Are you kidding me? What is believable? This:
      The global global financial system is collapsing. Oil system.
      Production stops, unemployment, poverty and crime are growing rapidly.
      1. Alexga April 20 2020 19: 50 New
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        Sergey, read the news about the United States, and even better, talk with friends there. My acquaintances, who have previously had a stable business, are queuing for benefits. And if the mess begins there, then it will affect almost everyone, except, probably, the DPRK and the Republic of Belarus. But there is nothing to talk about states with young capitalism. IMHO.
        1. CSKA April 21 2020 15: 08 New
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          Quote: AlexGa
          Sergey, read the news about the USA, and even better, talk with friends there.

          Talking to classmates. One in San Francisco, the other in Atlanta.
          Quote: AlexGa
          My acquaintances, who have previously had a stable business, are queuing for benefits. And if the mess begins there, then it will affect almost everyone, except, probably, the DPRK and the Republic of Belarus. But there is nothing to talk about states with young capitalism. IMHO.

          The bottom line is different. In what the author wrote.
          Quote: CSKA
          Collapsing global financial system

          How did he get it to collapse?
          Quote: CSKA
          Oil system

          It’s not at all clear what a fictitious system is.
          Quote: CSKA
          Production stops

          Partially stop, large cuts, and this is worldwide and temporary.
          Quote: CSKA
          unemployment, poverty and crime are growing rapidly.

          But this is generally a fairy tale.
  • DEDPIHTO April 20 2020 15: 17 New
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    Further, the pro-Western liberals of the 90s may come to power, the interim government of the Kudrins, Chubais, Sobyanins, Kiriyenko.
    Og, they have popular support zero point ten. With the socialists and nearby liberals did not lie. wink Unless the provisional government will be fooled for a short while using the fact that the Kremlin hangs on, and then the rails of history ... more precisely, the millstone of history for them. winked
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      Quote: DEPHIHTO
      Further, the pro-Western liberals of the 90s may come to power, the interim government of the Kudrins, Chubais, Sobyanins, Kiriyenko.
      Og, they have popular support zero point ten. With the socialists and nearby liberals did not lie. wink Unless the provisional government will be fooled for a short while using the fact that the Kremlin hangs on, and then the rails of history ... more precisely, the millstone of history for them. winked

      And enough for them to ruin and reduce to poverty and the collapse of the country, to the delight of the West and romantic revolutionary idiots.
      1. Malyuta April 20 2020 16: 16 New
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        Quote: Wend
        And enough for them to ruin and reduce to poverty and the collapse of the country, to the delight of the West and romantic revolutionary idiots.

        Have you ever asked yourself the question, why do this? Maybe the West is not giving something away from us? Maybe we don’t export the resources that we ourselves extract? Maybe we don’t export money to them?
        Or maybe we did not give them our market?
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          Quote: Malyuta
          Quote: Wend
          And enough for them to ruin and reduce to poverty and the collapse of the country, to the delight of the West and romantic revolutionary idiots.

          Have you ever asked yourself the question, why do this? Maybe the West is not giving something away from us? Maybe we don’t export the resources that we ourselves extract? Maybe we don’t export money to them?
          Or maybe we did not give them our market?

          Not only asked, but also know the answers to them. Strong Russia is not needed, we need either Russia of the 90s, or divided into parts.
          1. Zastupnik April 20 2020 17: 56 New
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            Quote: Wend
            Not only asked, but also know the answers to them.

            I also know, like you, with this coven inside Russia and in the world ..
            Quote: Wend
            Russia is not needed, we need either Russia of the 90s, or divided into parts.

            Exactly ! We noticed how here everyone activated sharply and what are we all inclined to do in Russia again ..? With this pandemic and isolation, there is a chance to make another turmoil in Russia and we are being led subtly to this .. It’s not us (neolibers "), you started it yourself ..
            I hope to break through .. hi
            1. Alexga April 20 2020 19: 52 New
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              With this pandemic and isolation, there is a chance to create another turmoil in Russia and we are subtly led to this

              I absolutely agree with you. Not only the Russian Federation, but the whole of Europe is under attack.
          2. Malyuta April 20 2020 18: 20 New
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            Quote: Wend
            Not only asked, but also know the answers to them. Strong Russia is not needed, we need either Russia of the 90s, or divided into parts.

            I am very sorry, but you are talking in cliches. I specify the question of how to break up the Russian Federation, taking into account the fact that we do not have national outskirts? And the second “control” question, why didn’t the “weak” Russia break up in the 90s? To finally wait until it becomes strong and try to break it up again?
            Don't you think that your logic is missing here?
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              Quote: Wend
              Not only asked, but also know the answers to them. Strong Russia is not needed, we need either Russia of the 90s, or divided into parts.

              I am very sorry, but you are talking in cliches. I specify the question of how to break up the Russian Federation, taking into account the fact that we do not have national outskirts? And the second “control” question, why didn’t the “weak” Russia break up in the 90s? To finally wait until it becomes strong and try to break it up again?
              Don't you think that your logic is missing here?

              Everything is in order with logic. What is this term like, national suburbs? There are state borders, here is the outskirts of Russia, like any other country. And where did you get the idea that Russia stopped ruining Russia in the 90s? You look back at how many officials and businessmen have accounts and real estate abroad, how many media are on Western subsidies, how many non-governmental organizations work for the collapse. Just our president and his team outplayed everyone. As a proverb goes, a chicken is a bit of a grain. By creating a compromise with officials, oligarchs, to lead the country to constitutional changes that enshrine many laws for people and the country. I did not think that I would live to see such a change. And the current epidemic clearly shows that the West is worth only one old Goebbels doctrine, "A lie said a thousand times becomes true." Russia is doing everything evil to its advantage, which Western countries cannot do.
              1. Malyuta April 20 2020 19: 09 New
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                Quote: Wend
                Just our president and his team outplayed everyone.
                I understand and agree
                With the fact that he “outplayed” everyone — I just have one tricky question. and who, sorry, in your opinion, is part of his team? hi
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                  Just our president and his team outplayed everyone.
                  I understand and agree
                  With the fact that he “outplayed” everyone — I just have one tricky question. and who, sorry, in your opinion, is part of his team? hi

                  Naturally, I don’t know everyone, but for example Minister of Defense Shoigu, Minister of Foreign Affairs Lavrov.
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                    Quote: Wend
                    Naturally, I don’t know everyone, but for example Minister of Defense Shoigu, Minister of Foreign Affairs Lavrov.

                    Well, yes, we are not supposed to know all, and the main thing is to believe that they are. What do you think, are they now hiding in one bunker or in different ones?
      2. Svarog April 20 2020 16: 28 New
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        Quote: Wend
        And enough for them to ruin and reduce to poverty and the collapse of the country, to the delight of the West and romantic revolutionary idiots.

        And now doesn’t this happen .. exactly what you wrote, you can add another population decline of 400 tons per year .. and the picture is completed
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          Quote: Svarog
          Quote: Wend
          And enough for them to ruin and reduce to poverty and the collapse of the country, to the delight of the West and romantic revolutionary idiots.

          And now doesn’t this happen .. exactly what you wrote, you can add another population decline of 400 tons per year .. and the picture is completed

          Well, what do you suggest Vladimir? Dig trenches and sharpen forks ..
        2. Vend April 20 2020 18: 42 New
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          Quote: Svarog
          Quote: Wend
          And enough for them to ruin and reduce to poverty and the collapse of the country, to the delight of the West and romantic revolutionary idiots.

          And now doesn’t this happen .. exactly what you wrote, you can add another population decline of 400 tons per year .. and the picture is completed

          You can not see the simple program of the Russian government to improve demography. Maternity capital, preferential mortgages for young families, support for large families, etc. So, contrary to Western inhuman plantings in the stupid heads, Russia continues to work to increase demography. Want to know what a crisis and the collapse of the country compare with the 90s))) I think you get your salary on time, and dress well, and you have a good cell phone, etc.))) and all the collapse in your country))) the collapse is not in the country, but in the head)))
          1. Svarog April 20 2020 19: 26 New
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            Quote: Wend
            You can not see the simple program of the Russian government to improve demography.

            Does it work that program? And if it works, why are we dying out?
            So in spite of Western inhuman plantings in the stupid heads, Russia continues to work to increase demography

            For 30 years, our government has been working tirelessly, and Russia is dying .. you don’t think this is strange, in words they work, but in reality the population is declining ..
            I understand that women love with their ears .. but men must look at the facts and the result.
            1. AU Ivanov. April 20 2020 20: 04 New
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              Only Russia is dying? In fact, the indigenous population is declining in all civilized countries, except Islamic. Despite all their injections into the social sphere.
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              Quote: Svarog
              Quote: Wend
              You can not see the simple program of the Russian government to improve demography.

              Does it work that program? And if it works, why are we dying out?
              So in spite of Western inhuman plantings in the stupid heads, Russia continues to work to increase demography

              For 30 years, our government has been working tirelessly, and Russia is dying .. you don’t think this is strange, in words they work, but in reality the population is declining ..
              I understand that women love with their ears .. but men must look at the facts and the result.

              The program works and not one program. No, it does not seem, a large number of pensioners, the "generation of snowflakes" who do not want to create families, propaganda of LGBT people, etc. During the 90s, among the officials, such a number of Western emissaries were nourished, and the Soviet period raised official laziness and fear of losing a place at the feeding trough.
              https://www.gks.ru/free_doc/2019/demo/edn12-19.htm тут можете посмотреть всю сводку о приросте и смертности.
            3. Olgovich April 21 2020 11: 16 New
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              Quote: Svarog
              For 30 years, our government has been working tirelessly, and Russia is dying .. you don’t think this is strange

              Russia is dying out with 1964 g (depopulation and aging — FIRST in Europe!) and some Russian regions and since the 1950sso nothing strange.
    2. Deniska999 April 20 2020 15: 47 New
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      Given that among the Russian population, usually a third are pessimistic about power, a third are loyalists, and the rest are apolitical, liberalism may well slip through.
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        Given that among the Russian population, usually a third are pessimistic about power, a third are loyalists, and the rest are apolitical, liberalism may well slip through.

        Rush through to Kolyma and bring down the forest .. Here you have a place .. laughing
        And then I got inspired here I look. Well, well
    3. AU Ivanov. April 20 2020 17: 47 New
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      Compare how many people go to the shares of the left. Shish yes kumysh, that’s all the support of the socialists.
  • Amateur April 20 2020 15: 21 New
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    Further, the pro-Western liberals of the 90s may come to power,

    Rather, the Martians will be invited than these. If they break it, then the military will come to power.
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      In Russia, the military were not in power. The army as a political force is loyal to the system and its will is completely in line with the current government.
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        In Russia, the military were not in power. The army as a political force is loyal to the system and its will is completely in line with the current government.

        Is that a call for a coup in Russia ..? You didn’t get the son on the shore. What are you talking about? This site is a MILITARY REVIEW and it seems like a Russian site, and not some kind of neoliberal blog ..
        Generally insolent ..
        1. Deniska999 April 20 2020 18: 10 New
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          Eyes are given to read, the mind is to comprehend what is read. Only the first function apparently works for you. And my message was a response to the post of the person above.

          PS And yes, before hanging labels, read the history of political doctrines.
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            Eyes are given to read, the mind is to comprehend what is read. Only the first function apparently works for you. And my message was a response to the post of the person above.

            Otmazalas and twisted, well done)))
            Quote: Deniska999
            PS And yes, before hanging labels, read the history of political doctrines.

            Talmud? I read Trotsky too bully
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              I answered adequately, unlike you. I doubt that you had enough to master the Talmud.
    2. Doliva63 April 20 2020 17: 54 New
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      Further, the pro-Western liberals of the 90s may come to power,

      Rather, the Martians will be invited than these. If they break it, then the military will come to power.

      Are you talking about a builder who successfully ruined the Civil Defense and much more? laughing
  • vvvjak April 20 2020 15: 21 New
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    Although the example of sanity at hand is Belarus, the “father” of Lukashenko.

    This phrase especially “pleased” me.
    1. Masha April 20 2020 15: 54 New
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      Although the example of sanity at hand is Belarus, the “father” of Lukashenko.

      This phrase especially “pleased” me.

      Or amused? recourse
      1. vvvjak April 20 2020 15: 58 New
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        Or amused?

        Could be so. And it’s better "struck on the spot." smile
        1. Masha April 20 2020 16: 01 New
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          Could be so. And it’s better "struck on the spot." smile

          Then, you are no longer in danger wink love
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            Then, nothing more threatens you wink love

            Think everything is so hopeless?
            1. Masha April 20 2020 16: 15 New
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              Hope dies last!!!
    2. Okolotochny April 20 2020 17: 41 New
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      Panikovsky immediately remembered - Give a million, well, give a million!
  • Alexander S. April 20 2020 15: 22 New
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    Why are regional authorities fighting the virus? Where is the sanitary-epidemiological service, the Ministry of Emergencies, and if the business is very bad, the armed forces?
    I don’t understand ... do you have to impose martial law? Curfew? What media are causing a panic? And I see a panic in this article. 40 tons of people got sick out of 145 million. Tea is not cholera. And there is nothing to regret the governors, or do they again, as always, follow the orders from above? And their brains do not need them? More and more yellowness is here.
    1. Lannan Shi April 20 2020 15: 31 New
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      I don’t understand ... do you have to impose martial law? Curfew?

      Or introduce an emergency, with a complete ban on the movement of everyone who is not part of the special life support team. and landings / executions on the spot, for especially active and very mobile, or not to twitch at all. And this very self-isolation is the classic escalation of hysteria, with a passing blow to the economy. And the sense of it, like a goat’s milk, and complicate life to the maximum, and constantly put pressure on the brain, in the style - everything is bad, everyone will die.
    2. Beringovsky April 20 2020 15: 53 New
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      The governors, like the ministers in the government and many others, were chosen from us not by the principle of professionalism, but by the principle of loyalty to higher ones. Some officials, please.
      Well, they selected their own teams in the same way. All of them only know how to "master" the budget in a familiar environment. And now this system is not childish. You think it's enough to hit your fist on the table and everything will magically change? All of these mediocrity suddenly become excellent initiative managers?
      Nothing of the kind. They are also simply “self-isolated” following the example of the central government, and we run the risk of getting complete anarchy on the ground.
      Sawing the budget is one thing, and having full responsibility with limited resources is another. Bad Nem, as they say.
  • Atlant-1164 April 20 2020 15: 23 New
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    lawlessness at all times .. engendered violence. I think the residents behind the Kremlin wall, they remember that.
  • Kolin April 20 2020 15: 26 New
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    In Bergamo, in March of this year, 6 times more died than in March last. This is for fans of etAprostAgripp.
    1. withoutreverse April 20 2020 15: 35 New
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      in Russia in 2019 15,6 thousand people died on the roads.
      Every fourth of the dead in Russia in 2019 .. did not reach the age of 60

      In Russia, despite the observed decrease, the proportion of young people among all deceased remains relatively high. So, according to the data for 2018, almost one in ten did not live up to the age of 45 years (9,5%), every fourth (24,6%) - until the age of 60 years.

      and you say Bergamo .. we would have to sort out our problems. and then help the rest of the world.
  • Shadow April 20 2020 15: 27 New
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    Corporations have a chance to drive smaller competitors into the grave, authorities gain fear and then appear as a savior, and a small person is pricked by infantile-blind gypsy.
  • Horst78 April 20 2020 15: 28 New
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    It seems that the author and not the "author" at all. It is not the first time that it has been noticed that under one and the same “authorship” there are fundamentally different people. Even in presentation styles. recourse Or maybe the mode of "isolation" affected? So to say, the "Gollum" syndrome? belay lol wassat
  • Thrifty April 20 2020 15: 28 New
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    It’s sad to read, but the author is right! Self-government under the pretext of a pandemic indicates the inability of the authorities to adequately respond to domestic processes, for the most part non-negative! And, it all started not yesterday! The economic decline has been going on for years, and the Kremlin has not had a solution to this problem, so it has this solution now! It’s enough to recall the “fairy tale from above” about 25 million HIGH-TECH jobs! Now it resembles a mockery of the people! The government is obliged to withdraw the country from the regime of self-isolation, and take up the economy immediately! And in the future, the Kremlin should conduct HONEST re-election of the country's leader during the year!
    1. CSKA April 20 2020 16: 07 New
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      Quote: Thrifty
      It’s sad to read, but the author is right!

      What is he right about? There, even the initial text is pure fiction.
      Quote: Thrifty
      Self

      What is self-removal? The president holds meetings every day.
      Quote: Thrifty
      The economic decline has been going on for years

      Actually it was only in 2008 and in 2014 if you are not in the know.
      Quote: Thrifty
      It’s enough to recall the “fairy tale from above” about 25 million HIGH-TECH jobs!

      Do you even know what kind of jobs these are? It seems not.
      Quote: Thrifty
      The government is obliged to withdraw the country from self-isolation

      Are you a virologist or a doctor? I’m more inclined to trust their opinion, not yours.
      Quote: Thrifty
      and get busy immediately!

      She does it every day.
      Quote: Thrifty
      And in the future, the Kremlin should conduct HONEST re-election of the country's leader during the year!

      A connoisseur of democracy is elected only by the president and parliament, not ministers. and what you want is categorized as your problem.
      1. Gardamir April 20 2020 17: 27 New
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        The president holds meetings every day
        belay lol
        1. CSKA April 21 2020 15: 08 New
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          Very informative.))))) For more was not enough.
      2. Revival April 20 2020 17: 52 New
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        From his meetings, it’s useless, like milk.
        Sneeze on directions .... sneeze.
        Loans at zero% = 0!
        The minister tried to take in savings and VTB, sent him, "it is not profitable for banks."
        Mishustin was indignant.
        Sberbank: we do not accept applications for such loans.
        Credit holidays: 85% of banks rejected, the rest is still under consideration (CB head) ~ 0
        1. CSKA April 21 2020 15: 10 New
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          Quote: Revival
          From his meetings, it’s useless, like milk.
          Sneeze on directions .... sneeze.

          And you thought in a week everything will be decided? This is a bureaucracy, it’s impossible for everyone to catch up.
    2. depressant April 20 2020 18: 18 New
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      Lean ... Well, everyone understands that the economic failures of an absolutely stupid leadership will be attributed to the coronavirus. Dumb and raking. The other day I happened to see a video with the "fishing house" of Medvedev. "House" with outbuildings larger than the stadium. This is what our rulers have been doing for the past 20 years. They built "fishing houses" and caught goldfish in the turbid economic water, agitated by them.
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    1. Vadim237 April 20 2020 17: 45 New
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      We have a lot of similar people - it’s time for them to create an alliance with the communists - visionaries, adherents of flat land, neoanarchists and other "amethysts" conspiracy theorists and paranoid. The upper house is considered to be formed with the filling of the lower houses there will be no problems - senility will fill.
  • BIABIA April 20 2020 15: 31 New
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    In Vladikavkaz, protests have already begun
    https://www.kommersant.ru/doc/4326717?utm_source=yxnews&utm_medium=desktop&utm_referrer=https%3A%2F%2Fyandex.ru%2Fnews
    1. Albert1988 April 20 2020 15: 54 New
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      In Vladikavkaz, protests have already begun

      You compare these "protests" with what went wrong in Texas ... Although there it’s like how the power, by the way, bucks, pays "self-insulating" ...
  • Sfurei April 20 2020 15: 33 New
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    The author, you have very clearly shown what is in your head: "Thus, we are more likely to see the development of not an epidemic, but mass psychosis." An example is Belarus! ?? It’s a very developed and most importantly open country according to information .. Stop writing what you don’t understand. If you have an economic or medical or political science education, then make a normal article with calculations and reflections. And if not, then do not go into the rostrum with nonsense: "Trump resists," "Lukashenko resists", "After all, it is obvious to any sane person that there is no epidemiological catastrophe!" ...
    Are you sick or kidding ?? In the US, more than 40 thousand deaths in 1,5 months and the pace is only growing. There are more than 160 thousand dead in the world, and this despite the fact that for sure the whole world if there is a possibility (for example in India) underestimate losses.
    If you do not understand that if more than 1% of the US population, i.e. 3,2-3,5 million people in the country there will be a collapse of medical care and growth will increase at times !!!
    AGAIN QUESTION TO MODERATORS !!! Do you even check what the authors put on the pages of BO ??
    1. Albert1988 April 20 2020 15: 57 New
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      "An example is Belarus! ?? A very developed and most importantly open country according to information ..

      Recently I called up relatives and acquaintances from Belarus - they live in Vitebsk and Minsk, they say that the country is complete, it’s a very serious epidemic, a lot of people go with severe pneumonia (guess what), doctors are explicitly forbidden to diagnose coronavirus, just viral pneumonia, no measures are taken to stop the situation ...
      1. Oleg Skvortsov April 20 2020 16: 06 New
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        Do not lie. Everything is normal there, nobody even puts on masks. What benefit do you pursue by rolling all sorts of nonsense?
        1. Albert1988 April 20 2020 16: 15 New
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          Do not lie. Everything is normal there, nobody even puts on masks. What benefit do you pursue by rolling all sorts of nonsense?

          I just pass on what relatives and friends tell me!
          Yes - no one wears masks, because they did not announce anything! BUT! People get sick - from a good friend in Minsk - over the past week, two families in her stairwell from neighboring apartments ended up in hospitals with a full diagnosis of pneumonia ... What do you think, why? It’s so cold outside, does everyone catch a cold?

          The niece works in a hospital in Vitebsk - she wrote openly - the management called everyone to the departments and gave the order - "do not mention the coronavirus, do not make diagnoses" ...

          And there’s no benefit to me from this - I’m just reporting information from eyewitnesses ...
          1. g_ae April 20 2020 17: 20 New
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            It seems that I do not live in Minsk. Well, the situation, of course, is not simple, everything happens, but the apocalypse, as some describe, something is not yet visible. We’ll wait and see who is right and who is wrong. At least, I do not need such a madhouse and idiocy as in Moscow. And whining is, unfortunately, a national feature of Belarusians. And not the best.
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              Quote: g_ae
              It seems that I do not live in Minsk. Well, the situation, of course, is not simple, everything happens, but the apocalypse, as some describe, something is not yet visible.

              If you are not working as a doctor, then, of course, you don’t see the whole situation. Well, the apocalypse is very far away - the situation is just difficult, many sick. I repeat - an acquaintance from Minsk said - during the week at the beginning one family came down - father, mother, sixth grade daughter, then the second family came down - husband and wife, the adult son doesn’t live with them, it’s not known how he is, because that same week He came. All the neighbors in the same stairwell ...

              Well, the niece works in the hospital - she says a lot to people with pneumonia, but they don’t put the diagnosis of “coronavirus” on the “top” sign, they just write pneumonia ...
              1. g_ae April 20 2020 18: 13 New
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                A lot of such stories and even worse can tell and Russian, and Italian, and Spanish, and American, and Polish, and Ukrainian doctors. And what? This proves nothing and does not mean anything. The final results can be summed up by the fall. Who will survive. Most likely everyone will be ill. There is no vaccine yet, and when it will be incomprehensible, and whether it will be unknown at all. At least everyone who wants to sit out (or self-isolate) has no obstacles at work. At my own expense. And for working dressings, sanitizers, an operating mode to minimize contacts, an udalenka if possible. If your authorities do not want to pay your own from the NWF, then ours simply do not have such funds. Moreover, this will not end in two weeks, and there it will be possible to die stupidly from hunger. Well, what for such a quarantine? Especially since I can sit locked up in the blue, and then go out and with a high probability again bite. Especially in the fall, the second wave is predicted. Not. Better as we have now than such a tin as in Russia. By the way, the other day I called my sister to the district center in the North Caucasus. She told me the same thing about their district hospital. And about the diagnoses, and that the doctors got into their mouths like water. And what?
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                  This, of course, is your will, the problem is that if nothing is highlighted now, it is not a fact that we will later find out how it was real, and rumors will only worsen the situation. The problem here is something else - if you are around 30-40 - then do not worry, but if you have elderly relatives - then you already have to save them.
                  As for the NWF, normal laws must be adopted immediately, which will regulate the behavior of employers in this period ... And not a month later. when people already lost their jobs ...
                  1. g_ae April 20 2020 18: 29 New
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                    Cover what? Please publish statistics on tut.by every day. Is this easier for someone? Does the virus disappear from this? Moreover, there are a lot of people who will still doubt and believe that they are being hidden from them. And nobody forcibly drives the elderly to the street. And delivery services also have a place to be. Do you think that we have here an alliance of the sample of the 70s? And how do you policemen, including older women, who are screwed out onto the street (apparently for "saving"). I applaud while standing.
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                      Quote: g_ae
                      you have cops

                      You, dear, look at your "policemen", ours carry out orders - leaving the house in Moscow for a pass ...
                      Quote: g_ae
                      Cover what? Please publish statistics on tut.by every day. Is this easier for someone?

                      Do not cover, but warn and conduct quarantine measures! When everyone walks, the situation only gets worse! It’s another question what will you (God forbid), taking into account the fact that in Russia it all began much later than in the world, and the peak is just ahead - late-April-early May, according to optimistic forecasts!
                      Quote: g_ae
                      Do you think that we have here an alliance of the sample of the 70s?

                      And what do you have against the Union of the sample of the 70s? And you can not convince me - I have an aunt, niece and grandmother who live in Vitebsk, I visit them every year, a good friend of my family lives in Minsk, I trust these people!
                      The current infection is a very dangerous thing, precisely because it is very contagious and can cause complications for some percent of people.

                      And so there is an example to follow - Turkmenistan! There, in general, the coronavirus was banned, and it is recommended that the population be protected from sores by "millennial means" ...
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                        Oh yeah! Perform so perform. Make a fool pray to God ... And why did you decide that they did not warn us and did not cover us? And in Russia, no one declared quarantine a dare to remind. And as in the Moscow metro the other day, quarantine measures were held - this is a song. No, you can be proud of yourself in front of us. For God's sake. But what the hell.
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                        By the way, against the coronovirus now, it seems that the “millennial” remedies are not much inferior to the modern ones in terms of effectiveness. Complications are another matter. So it will be possible to ironize with the Turkmens when the epidemic ends, and when the losses are calculated. If at least someone in the world announces real numbers. What I doubt very much.
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                        Quote: g_ae
                        By the way, against the coronovirus now it seems that the “millennial” remedies are not very inferior to modern ones in terms of effectiveness

                        Only one thing helps against this virus: to stay at home and have minimal contact with others, this is the only way to stop its spread, the only way the Chinese have stopped it!
                        Quote: g_ae
                        So it will be possible to ironize with the Turkmens when the epidemic ends, and when the losses are calculated.

                        Do you seriously think that one of the most closed countries will take and publish like this?
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                        I am sure that no one will publish real data, including Russia. And when Rosstat was repaired by the Ministry of Economic Development ... Yes, and there is no such data and it cannot be. And all the data published now is very, very dubious.
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                        Quote: g_ae
                        I am sure that no one will publish real data, including Russia. And when Rosstat was repaired by the Ministry of Economic Development ... Yes, and there is no such data and it cannot be. And all the data published now is very, very dubious.

                        Now they publish only what they know - whom they tested positively, and they publish it, of course, that you can’t catch all those who have been ill - there will not be enough tests, especially for those who were asymptomatic, but who were contagious!
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                    If at least someone in the world announces real numbers. What I really doubt

                    Keep the site:


                    I can give you a couple more links - both ours and foreign ones. The numbers (in general) are the same. What, like kakbe, hints ...

                    And what's the point of hiding? The numbers, in general, are not outrageous, the problem is that the virus is painfully "active", and if you do not quarantine, then the numbers will increase by an order or two. Then there will already be a real priest ...
                2. Albert1988 April 20 2020 19: 45 New
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                  Quote: g_ae
                  Oh yeah! Perform so perform. Make a fool pray to God ... And why did you decide that they did not warn us and did not cover us?

                  Dear, you can go to the hospital and ask the doctors. how are you ...
                  Quote: g_ae
                  And in Russia, no one declared quarantine a dare to remind.

                  Quarantine is one thing, quarantine measures are another thing ...
                  Quote: g_ae
                  And as in the Moscow metro the other day, quarantine measures were held - this is a song.

                  Have you been the other day in the Moscow metro?
                  Quote: g_ae
                  No, you can be proud of yourself in front of us. For God's sake. But what the hell.

                  Where am I proud? In Russia, there are shoals, but almost completely ignored - no ...
                3. g_ae April 20 2020 19: 55 New
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                  And where did you get that about "complete ignoring"? What's behind these conclusions? You understand that Russia is 15 times bigger than Belarus. And for any horror you find with us, I will find 15 times more horror horror in you. And what? And the effectiveness of periodic calls from somewhere in the bunker also seems to me very doubtful. Time will tell everything and now there is nothing to judge.
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                  Quote: g_ae
                  And where did you get that about "complete ignoring"?

                  Nothing, wait and see ... The main thing is that everything is fine ...
                  And I rely solely on the information of relatives - they are all there on the nerves, which is not characteristic of them at all, which is why my anxiety ...
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                  I fully understand your concern and them. By the way, I lived for 30 years in Vitebsk, just a short walk from the regional hospital, and a lot of friends and relatives in Vitebsk. And I know this company very well that I brought infection from Italy to Vitebsk. Just yesterday we called up with former neighbors in the country. Yes, the situation is tense and difficult, but no one shouts "Ah, we all die." And the virus is already here and will not go anywhere, and no self-isolation and quarantines can defeat it until there is collective immunity or a vaccine. We must take care, carry out possible measures and hope. All the same, there is no money for long quarantine. And will not be. God saves the safe, and what to be, that cannot be avoided.
  • Sklendarka April 20 2020 21: 22 New
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    Quote: Albert1988
    Quote: Sfurei
    "An example is Belarus! ?? A very developed and most importantly open country according to information ..

    Recently I called up relatives and acquaintances from Belarus - they live in Vitebsk and Minsk, they say that the country is complete, it’s a very serious epidemic, a lot of people go with severe pneumonia (guess what), doctors are explicitly forbidden to diagnose coronavirus, just viral pneumonia, no measures are taken to stop the situation ...

    Well, I'm from Minsk ... so what? Minsk has worked and works like that. Yes, people in masks-entrance / exit to any institution are equipped with disinfection devices; We try to keep a distance, i.e. we follow the recommendations of the Ministry of Health. And believe me, there is NO PANIC.
    April 24th we have a clean-up day ...
  • CSKA April 20 2020 16: 10 New
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    Quote: Sfurei
    If you have an economic or medical or political science education, then make a normal article with calculations and reflections.

    That's it. A set of letters without analysis. All the doctors say one thing, and the author is trying to give us pearls without numbers about anything, from his conclusions it is not clear what are based on.
    1. Olgovich April 21 2020 11: 27 New
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      All doctors say one thing, but the author tries to give us pearls without numbers nothing, from his conclusions it is not clear what is based on.

      This one is interesting:
      After all, it is obvious to any sane person that there is no epidemiological catastrophe! On April 16, 2020, 2 million patients in the world and over 138 thousand died.


      And it doesn’t reach the author that such small numbers are the RESULT of unprecedented quarantine measures and it’s even scary to imagine what would happen without them ....
      1. CSKA April 21 2020 13: 46 New
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        Quote: Olgovich
        And it doesn’t reach the author that such small numbers are the RESULT of unprecedented quarantine measures and it’s even scary to imagine what would happen without them ....

        That's it. And according to the author, 138 thousand dead are such a trifle. Thanks to our measures, we have 0,8% mortality among those infected, and in Belgium, for example, 15%.
  • Digital error April 20 2020 16: 43 New
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    Do you even check what the authors put on the pages of BO ??

    Of course check, tested on yourself :)
    The article is published in the Opinions section - you can disagree with it.
    1. Sfurei April 20 2020 17: 23 New
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      No one is against expressing opinions. But I would like to see OPINION on the pages of the site, and not gossip from the chat of plumbers' fitters in WhatsApp or discussions at the kitchen table after a bottle of vodka. Let it be supported by arguments and conclusions and become interesting to everyone ... And I myself can throw so much from a hangover as a set of such words and sayings ...
  • Gardamir April 20 2020 17: 32 New
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    Stop writing what you don't understand.
    Stand in front of the mirror and tell yourself.
    In the US, more than 40 thousand deaths in 1,5 months and the pace is only growing. More than 160 thousand dead in the world
    You seem to believe in numbers and write right there
    probably all over the world if there is an opportunity (for example, in India) to underestimate losses.
    Do you criticize the author, but what have you written yourself?
    1. Sfurei April 20 2020 19: 48 New
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      Dear, I wrote exactly what I would like to get from the author:
      1. Cited official statistics,
      2. I concluded that it was insufficient due to the understatement or impossibility of fixing exactly these data (slums of India, Brazil's favelas, homeless USA, etc., etc.).
      This is called an opinion.

      And what the author wrote is speculation and nonsense: "... After all, it is obvious to any sane person that there is no epidemiological catastrophe! ..."
      Those. ALL GOVERNMENTS and THE BEST REPRESENTATIVES OF THE WORLD (who had never before had the same opinion on any of the problems voiced) RECOGNIZED the situation as a global catastrophe, and the author is one of the few sane people !!! Did he outbid himself ???
      1. Gardamir April 20 2020 20: 02 New
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        there is no epidemiological disaster! ..
        I agree here. And there is no pandemic, it’s enough to take statistics on past flu. But the country is self-arrested, and this is not good.
        1. Golovan Jack April 20 2020 20: 08 New
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          Quote: Gardamir
          And there is no pandemic, it’s enough to take statistics on past flu.

          “Gardamir”, would you at least read what a thread is, how does a cow virus differ from other former ones ... I give a beacon: there is such a beast R0 ... and then they would sculpt (or better, would not sculpt) here, ahem, nonsense every negative

          Quote: Gardamir
          the country is self-arrested, and this is not good

          Italy did not want to "self-arrest" for a long time, and now ... well?

          Not only is illiterate, but also stubborn ... it's me about the president of Italy, yes yes
        2. Sfurei April 20 2020 20: 14 New
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          Well, if you think so, then:
          1. Do not wear a mask, do not wash your hands, continue to meet friends with a large company, etc.
          2. Do not see a doctor if you or your relatives become ill. If you think that this virus is not more dangerous than seasonal influenza. Sit at home and wait for it to pass. Do not occupy the beds of people more concerned about this epidemic.
          3. And move to a country where there is no self-restoration: Sweden (more than 10% mortality), to Belarus (where the Old Man said to be treated with vodka).

          Well, in general, it’s a very correct indicator of checking your rationality, when EVERYTHING around says that: a house is burning / a ship is sinking / it smells of gas, and you say that it’s: a chicken burned / this is a spray of waves / the smell of violets ... It's nice to consider yourself a genius but reality usually puts everything in its place !!
          1. Gardamir April 20 2020 21: 50 New
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            reality usually puts everything in its place !!
            You are right, the reality is that the choice is small, to die from a virus or to survive, and the second to die from hunger, because the state, as always, has nothing to do with it, we ourselves locked ourselves up.
            A virus carrier needs a mask so as not to infect healthy people, I have been washing my hands since Soviet times, movement is life, you don’t need a crowd to walk in the park. and for the elderly, self-restraint in movement is bad for health ...
  • savage1976 April 21 2020 02: 38 New
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    Why should the author think about this, why should the VO administration verify this? These are all elements of democracy and freedom. But neither one nor the other does not care that 650000 people die every year without flu and without quarantines and self-isolation, from cove for 3 months 160000x4 = 640000, that's only in quarantine and self-isolation. In fact, mortality today in the world from covid is 25% of the number of cured. There is something to think about. And these socialists dreaming only of the possibility of rebelling on both human lives and the people, the main process of the revolution is permanent and infinite.
  • Snail N9 April 20 2020 15: 39 New
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    And the "Bush legs" already, will not .... yes
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      And in America they themselves will devour.
  • gridasov April 20 2020 15: 45 New
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    do not confuse the political crisis with the crisis of the elites. Generations of these elites are changing. The previous crisis was veiled by perestroika. I wonder what definition will be the real one.
    1. Digital error April 20 2020 16: 41 New
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      Quote: gridasov
      do not confuse the political crisis with the crisis of the elites

      Right. Politically, there is nothing to offer for a long time, and the crisis has just broken out :)
  • avdkrd April 20 2020 15: 50 New
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    I agree with the author. Finally, someone was not afraid and outlined the real situation. Europe woke up the same way and openly talks about the falsification of the pandemic in the interests of pharmaceutical corporations. Forced medicine, coupled with chipizatsiets, is a business model pushed by Bill Gates, Clinton and a number of other families dictating their will to the government. It’s not a fact that the same scenario is being lobbied for us, I really want to think that the reasons are different, but the fact that the constitution is being violated, and on the ground, they are stupidly following instructions from the Kremlin that cannot have legal force without the introduction of an emergency / state of emergency. What happens is very similar to an unconstitutional coup. It doesn’t matter what kind of sauce the constitution is violated. The screams of the illiterate "victims of the coronovirus" about protection can not matter, since in this case the power is generally outside the legal field. Where is the emergency mode? Where are the real measures to combat the biological threat? Open stores, metro and churches (mosques) are not a measure of the virus. The method used for testing is not objective and was rejected back in 2005. Simply put, the weather shows. Doctors in the whole world are engaged in falsification, making a diagnosis of q on All pulmonary infections, and often on unrelated even with this. Falsifications are noted in all countries, in the USA, where, oddly enough, the president is trying to fight at least forced vaccination.
    Voice of Germany (in Russian) https://youtu.be/z1blpjk2gQg
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      Quote: avdkrd
      in the interests of pharmaceutical corporations

      Ohhh ... There are not just a lot of interested people :)
      Pay attention to the "anti-crisis" lawmaking.
      Rather, "not only everyone" (tm) would like to catch a fish in troubled waters ...
    2. Okolotochny April 20 2020 17: 44 New
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      I agree with the author. Finally, someone was not afraid and outlined the real situation.

      So this, he denotes it in every article ... lol
  • Digital error April 20 2020 15: 50 New
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    sovereignty collapses under the influence of a global panic escalated by the media and supranational organizations like the IMF and WHO

    1. Has it been (real sovereignty) since 1991? 2. Is it otherwise that the IMF and WHO work in tandem?
    possible coming to power of pro-Western liberals of the 90s

    It is they who are in power. The king is made by the retinue. Peskov’s revelations to recall about the "absolute liberal by nature, and much more liberal than the titular liberals who call themselves" the opposition "?" Was Russia, is and will be. Whether with them, without them.
  • samarin1969 April 20 2020 15: 51 New
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    3-5 years ago, the Lord of the Sith was relevant. Yes, and now relevant. Shells under fire.
    And now at VO it is better to provide a “zone without criticism” to Sylvester. This is more reliable than the “conspiratorial rally”.
  • Oleg Skvortsov April 20 2020 15: 53 New
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    Samsonov looks to the future. And he is right. Liberal power cannot cope. Instead of really throwing all the resources to improve medical care for the population and real money! to each person - they escalate hysteria and psychosis. People do not have planned surgeries, chronic patients do not receive help and bend at home. More people will die out, so other serious diseases will not be diagnosed and treated on time. It is simply a diversion of power against the people. Therefore, the people are growing bitterness - and the vicious vertical built by the “great helmsman” for 20 years is to blame
    1. Digital error April 20 2020 16: 34 New
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      It’s just a diversion of power against the people

      I would not say so, rather they just do what they can - do not let go and forbid. Personnel "selection" is unlikely to allow anything else ...
    2. Doliva63 April 20 2020 18: 10 New
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      Quote: Oleg Skvortsov
      Samsonov looks to the future. And he is right. Liberal power cannot cope. Instead of really throwing all the resources to improve medical care for the population and real money! to each person - they escalate hysteria and psychosis. People do not have planned surgeries, chronic patients do not receive help and bend at home. More people will die out, so other serious diseases will not be diagnosed and treated on time. It is simply a diversion of power against the people. Therefore, the people are growing bitterness - and the vicious vertical built by the “great helmsman” for 20 years is to blame

      But is it really different in other countries?
    3. Snail N9 April 20 2020 20: 49 New
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      Absolutely right. Look at what’s being done, without much hype in the media, under the guise of a "fight against coronovirus:
      During the coronavirus pandemic, the State Duma of the Russian Federation almost imperceptibly on April 17 adopted in the second reading the government bill "On a unified federal information register containing information about the population of the Russian Federation", which includes all the complete information about every citizen of the country - from birth to death.

      This project with the sonorous abbreviation EFIR will contain all the data for each person collected from all information systems in Russia. So far, according to the authors, this "golden ideal profile" will include about 30 types of information about a person: name, date and place of birth and death, gender, details of the registration of a civil status certificate of birth and death, SNILS, TIN, marital status, everything data on an individual, on education, on all places of his work, information on registration with a tax authority, including as a tax payer of professional income tax, information on registration as an individual entrepreneur, on registration on military records, registration in systems Compulsory medical insurance, social insurance and pension ion system, documents on education / training, qualifications, on the award, deprivation, restoration of an academic degree / title, information on all family ties, etc.
      The single register may enter into force on January 1, 2022. The Federal Tax Service (FTS) will become its holder, but information about citizens' solvency, income and tax revenues will not get into it, the agency assured. From the day of the official publication of the law and until December 31, 2025, a transitional period is established during which the features of creating and maintaining a register of the population, the formation and use of the information contained in it will be worked out.

      The explanatory note to the project says that its implementation will improve the quality of public administration, reduce the time for the provision of public services, increase the effectiveness of the fight against fraud in terms of obtaining social support measures and paying taxes, fees and other mandatory payments. Every citizen will have access to information about themselves in the register, therefore, after the law enters into force, citizens will not need to fill out information about themselves every time they receive public services, and the authorities’s work in forecasting the socio-economic development of the country and regions, targeted support will be easier and more precisely.

      As the head of the committee on information policy, deputy Alexander Khinshtein, said at a plenary meeting of the State Duma, this initiative is the "first step towards digitalization" of Russian society. "In the context of coronavirus infection, it is obvious that we do not have such a law," Hinshtein said.

      Deputy Head of the Federal Tax Service Vitaly Kolesnikov also referred to the situation with coronavirus, noting that "life today has shown, especially in recent months (against the background of restrictions on the coronavirus), that we do not have a normal, objectively countable concept of family, household. Accordingly, we do not understand "What is the average per capita income of the family, how to provide targeted measures of social support, what we are trying to do now. And actually, how to evaluate it without taking any data from a person, from members of his family."

      Since October 2018, all records of acts of civil status are already being made in a single "cloud" in the data centers of the Federal Tax Service, which has become the operator of a single registry. “These are 8 million records and another 540 million (we convert all act records that have been preserved on the territory of the Russian Federation since 1926 - we will finish this work by the end of the year), this registry office along with the information of the Russian Ministry of Internal Affairs will become the basis of a single population register, in which the so-called "golden profile" will be born according to the data of these two departments, which will include the main identifiers of the person, including passport, place of birth, and so on ..., and identifiers of other information systems. This is by no means a duplication , and this at keeping all systems to a single denominator. Accordingly, the population register will give rise to the so-called "golden ideal profile", which will be enriched with the information of the remaining 12 suppliers. About 30 types of information that they will provide, "the deputy head of the Federal Tax Service Kolesnikov said at a meeting of the State Duma committee, where the relevant draft law was considered.

      According to one of the largest audit companies in the world, KPMG, the main purpose of creating the register is to more accurately determine the groups of people who need targeted assistance from the state. For fiscal purposes, this database can be used if you indicate in it the property owned by the person, his accumulations and assets in Russian and foreign banks and non-financial organizations (account balances, value of securities portfolios, insurance, etc.), as well as expenses - at least for spending through bank accounts and cash withdrawals, Kommersant writes. Thus, it will be possible to compare the officially declared income and expenses, and in case of a significant discrepancy and lack of sufficient income of other family members and close relatives, ask questions about the source of income.

      Recall that the idea of ​​digitalization of society has been constantly discussed lately - it has more and more supporters who claim that it will help to control the situation during global cataclysms, like the current one, and opponents who note that the population will end up in the “digital concentration camp".

      Former State Duma deputy, ex-first racket of the world, Marat Safin, even directly linked the outbreak of the coronavirus pandemic to the conspiracy of the shadow world government in order to chip people through the vaccine. Safin, being the public sports adviser to the State Duma of the VII convocation Vyacheslav Volodin, said that "the virus is not as it is told, but the people believe in everything, in horror stories on TV." “We’ll just be going around with the chip soon. The whole world has been put home, so everything works,” he added.

      "There are guys abruptly world leaders who are really masters of money, masters of the world, and they can easily turn it around. You can call it a shadow government, you can just like it. I think we don’t even know that they exist. The Rothschilds and Rockefellers are untwisted names, and someone else is behind them, "Safin emphasized. "I think that people are preparing for chipization. Bill Gates said back in 2015 that we will have a pandemic, the next enemy is a virus, not a nuclear war. They simulated at the Davos forum how everything will be. I don’t think that Bill Gates is such a predictor - he simply knew, "Safin is sure.
      .

      https://www.newsru.com/russia/20apr2020/registr.html
      Go ahead at an accelerated pace towards a digital concentration camp!
  • Masha April 20 2020 15: 58 New
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    In short ...
    Everyone died ... crying
  • iouris April 20 2020 16: 05 New
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    I don’t understand who was standing on whom? What is a matrix? How can it be "rebooted". The crisis is obvious, the ways out of the crisis are not obvious. The system looks very monolithic. Outside.
  • TAMBU April 20 2020 16: 06 New
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    After all, it is obvious to any sane person that there is no epidemiological disaster

    and before that there was porridge, and after that I didn’t even continue to read ...
  • Azimuth April 20 2020 16: 08 New
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    Quote: Masha
    Quote: vvvjak
    Although the example of sanity at hand is Belarus, the “father” of Lukashenko.

    This phrase especially “pleased” me.

    Or amused? recourse

    Chickens (sick) in the fall count.
    If But father has taken the right strategy, there will be another term for the president. But if worse than the Russian Federation will be, then he will remember this experiment.
    1. tatra April 20 2020 16: 20 New
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      Unfortunately, the post-Soviet period in the territory of the former USSR is always a choice between bad and very bad. No matter how bad Lukashenko may be, the one who comes after him will be even worse. And not without reason the propaganda of Putin’s "heralds" is "under Yeltsin it was even worse, and in Ukraine even worse than in Russia."
      1. Digital error April 20 2020 16: 31 New
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        And not without reason propaganda

        Not in this case. They just do not know how differently or do not want. Otherwise, someone would have answered for the outcome of the “decrees” of 2012. Everything was clear even then. To frighten what will be worse is much easier than to do better. It’s also free.
      2. Sergey49 April 22 2020 13: 59 New
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        In the republics where there was no lustration and de-communization, it is foolish to expect good things - the entire leadership is former communists and Komsomol members.
        1. tatra April 22 2020 14: 01 New
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          The 30-year-old ideology of the enemies of the Communists after the capture of Russia "and we have nothing to do with it, it's all the Communists to blame", "but we have nothing to do with it, it was in the USSR, we’re still dissolving it" You have nothing to do with what you HAVE AFTER after your capture of Russia.
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            All is in power. We both vegetate and we live in poverty. Unless there is no need to run for food and shortages and crowd in turns. Yes, to go abroad does not require permission from the experts on Marxism-Leninism. In general, people benefited from the collapse of your concentration camp, only you consumers of special rations and government grants want to return the rotten system.
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              The enemies of the USSR and the Soviet people, after the capture and dismemberment by them of the USSR into their evil anti-Soviet-Russophobic "independence" in which they destroy not only Soviet but also Russian, have not done anything useful for their country and people for those large and huge, in comparison with the people, the salaries and incomes that they had, but they also proved that they were never going to take responsibility for the country and people, they were never going to do anything useful for the country and people.
              And if on the territory of the USSR all 100 years after the October Revolution there exists a community of people who are convinced that they are true communists who never betrayed their party, the USSR and the Soviet people, and their supporters, then their enemies hate and betray each other, and constantly throw each other Communists and their supporters, starting with their "Liberator" Gorbachev.
  • serezhasoldatow April 20 2020 16: 21 New
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    Sheer crap !!! Apparently the virus hit the author!
  • Shelest2000 April 20 2020 16: 24 New
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    rather, we see the development of not an epidemic, but mass psychosis.

    A few days ago on one of the sites (where everyone cries :)). Data were presented on the number of deaths for 2019, disaggregated by month, and data for the first three months of 2020 in Spain, Italy and Germany. moreover, from their (from these countries) resources. Well, those countries, especially the first two, have all heard from our non-worthy media that tens of thousands are dying from the “crown” there.
    So, the difference in the number of deaths in January / February / March 2019 and in 2020 is not more than the statistical error - less than 1%.
  • kriten April 20 2020 16: 26 New
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    Power, if it destroys the Russian economy, is again profitable for it. He writes everything down to the virus and you can refuse promises to the people - the crisis has eaten up the grandmother, well, and someone else ...
  • seacap April 20 2020 16: 27 New
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    This, of course, is solely my opinion of the average layman, but it seems to me that our leading estate, more like a colonial or occupation administration, constituting (representing) as a state, in essence and its activity is hostile to basic human interests. All behavior, decision-making is based on the algorithm of the occupation regime, Ausweis, policemen behaving cynically, uncompromisingly and harshly, decrees with prohibitive fines and imprisonment, it’s good not to be shot on the spot, instead of real help, explanations and real work with the population. This is not just a crisis, these actions jeopardize our very existence, they are hostile, and there is no need to wait for a miracle, it will not.
  • Doccor18 April 20 2020 16: 42 New
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    I went to the store today, just for fun I looked, buckwheat - 135 rubles. ha 1 kg., up to - 30 rubles., lemons - 590 rubles., up to - 130 rubles., ginger - 1800 rubles., others - 350 rubles. The pharmacy has no masks, antiseptics, paracetamol ....
    Well, our government cannot affect the dollar, the price of oil, the coronovirus and other global circumstances, but on its own ...
    What happened that individual product positions went up 5 times? Why there are no antiseptics. And the production of penny paracetamol is not more complicated than the production of penny analgin.
    Analgin in the pharmacy is. There are complex problems, challenges that require serious solutions, challenges. The news says about 300 thousand tons of buckwheat in elevators. But in stores it is either not there, or it is many times more expensive. I'm not a fan of buckwheat and lemons, but can our rulers solve this issue?
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      I went to the store today, just for fun I looked

      1. City
      2. Name of the store

      Or you, my friend, a talker.
      1. Okolotochny April 20 2020 17: 49 New
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        Roman, for lemons I can confirm ginger, the Agrokompleks chain of stores (A.N. Tkacheva in the Krasnodar Territory). AND EVERYTHING. True for these two positions. But, interestingly, pork has fallen in price (domestic at that) by 15 percent, chicken too. For lemons and ginger - there are also difficulties in logistics due to the mound. Well, increased rush demand.
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        Magnet in the Nizhny Novgorod region.
        1. Golovan Jack April 20 2020 19: 17 New
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          Quote: Doccor18
          buckwheat - 135 rubles ha 1 kg., up to - 30 rubles

          Good, I understood about lemons. I myself buy rarely and individually, and therefore - not an expert even once. Ginger didn’t bother me at all ... but this -

          Quote: Doccor18
          buckwheat - 135 rubles ha 1 kg., up to - 30 rubles.,

          - this is lawlessness. I have Attack near me, buckwheat - something in the region of a fifty dollars per kg. (something like - because I'm also not very interested).

          And, yes - and what is "up to - 30 rubles"?
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            Before this artificial excitement, there were 30 rubles each.
            And chatting, as you put it,
            so it’s from the TV ... chatting.
            What's the point? In easy to check.
            1. Golovan Jack April 20 2020 19: 23 New
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              Quote: Doccor18
              A chat, as you put it

              My apologies hi

              It’s just very different from what I see myself.
              1. NN52 April 20 2020 23: 15 New
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                Golovan Jack (Roman)
                Roma, tomorrow I’ll go to Magnet and say whether a person is lying or not, about buckwheat.
                About the antiseptic and paracetomol lying, about the mask does not lie. (let Novgorod go into any pharmacy on Komintern St. Mr. N. and buy a WAGON of paracetamol.
                1. Okolotochny April 21 2020 10: 37 New
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                  Dima, in our village at the pharmacy yesterday - Masks and antiseptics - eat ... the fifth point I want! The delivery went, it is obvious that the plants began to work. Moreover, masks in a roll, one roll of 100 rubles, in a roll of 50 pieces, pharmacists offer themselves, so that people know. Antiseptics are also different and in containers of different volumes.
              2. Okolotochny April 21 2020 10: 39 New
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                In our "Magnet" buckwheat 49 rubles, also eat at least the fifth point.
                1. NN52 April 21 2020 19: 49 New
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                  Photo below. Look ..
              3. NN52 April 21 2020 19: 46 New
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                Golovan Jack (Roman)
                Here is today's photo from Pyaterochka. Address Nizhny Novgorod, Bazarnaya St. d8 (center Sormovo)

                The forum member is lying ...
                1. Golovan Jack April 21 2020 19: 47 New
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                  The forum member is lying ...

                  Well, God judge him request
      3. Doccor18 April 20 2020 19: 24 New
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        Do not you believe about masks, antiseptics and paracetamol?
        As if living in different countries, honestly.
        1. Golovan Jack April 20 2020 19: 26 New
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          Quote: Doccor18
          Do not you believe about masks, antiseptics and paracetamol?

          Mytishchi - Korolev - Jubilee. Everything, except paracetamol, is definitely there, I bought it today. Paracetamol stocked up two weeks ago, specifically check - I will not run. Well, nafig, to catch cow viruses laughing
          1. Doccor18 April 20 2020 19: 36 New
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            I am very happy, without sarcasm, for you.
            We don’t have it yet, I want to believe that they will appear soon ...
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              Quote: Doccor18
              We don’t have it yet, I want to believe that they will appear soon ...

              A couple of weeks ago, and we did not have. IMHO, will appear hi
    2. AU Ivanov. April 20 2020 16: 57 New
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      Saint Petersburg. Buckwheat, Semishagoff budget store 44 rubles per kilo. Yesterday.
  • pavelpavel April 20 2020 16: 44 New
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    The crisis started to radicalize the "world government." The government is forced to oppose in order to remain in power.
  • Victor March 47 April 20 2020 17: 06 New
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    Full of idiots like Kasparov and so on. Hence, there are so many minuses to a sound comment. I will support Venda (Anatolia). Correctly. Not rested ball. They are here - a whole kennel.
    1. Okolotochny April 20 2020 17: 50 New
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      Not rested ball. They are here - a whole kennel.

      good
  • dgonni April 20 2020 17: 08 New
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    Samsonov! Stop rewriting el murid (Nesmyan). Well, you can’t even rewrite analytics.
    1. Golovan Jack April 20 2020 19: 41 New
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      Samsonov! Stop rewriting el murid (Nesmyan). Well, you can’t even rewrite analytics.

      If Nesmyan is analytics, then I am a telephone box.

      By the way, I fully agree good
  • parusnik April 20 2020 17: 08 New
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    Hmm ... the word happiness in the current situation, you cannot add four letters ...
    1. Vadim237 April 20 2020 17: 54 New
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      Let’s go - they didn’t go through this.
  • Azimuth April 20 2020 17: 12 New
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    Antiglobalists will either raise their heads or chop off their hands, if it gets worse.
  • Starter52 April 20 2020 17: 25 New
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    Author. Everyone has long been under an electronic cap. Whoever took a loan at least once. For example, I don’t see a crisis at all. The crisis is in your head. How do we do airplanes? We just dispersed the house out of control. And a miracle happened at the factory. Plan as did it and do it. But not 850 people go to work, but 100. Workers. So the salary was raised. And in general, the weather is excellent. Gasoline fell 2.50. For me, let this crisis last forever.
  • New Year day April 20 2020 17: 26 New
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    I read, I can’t believe my eyes! The incredible is becoming apparent?
    1. Okolotochny April 20 2020 17: 51 New
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      I read, I can’t believe my eyes! The incredible is becoming apparent?

      Are you for Samsonov? Have you not read it before? For Russia-Tartaria also believed?
      1. New Year day April 20 2020 17: 58 New
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        Are you for Samsonov?

        I don’t read the authors, the content is more interesting
        1. Okolotochny April 20 2020 18: 19 New
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          I read, I can’t believe my eyes! The incredible is becoming apparent?

          What are your words? You want to say that you have not read or commented on Samsonov’s articles? Sylvester, do not dissemble.
          1. New Year day April 20 2020 18: 23 New
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            Sylvester, do not dissemble.

            I tell you again, I don’t even read the authors. What does it matter? And who is Samsonov? Why is there such a stir around him?
            1. Okolotochny April 20 2020 18: 30 New
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              Why is there such a stir around him?

              Absolutely the right question. And here ask your "party members" - Svarog, Stas and others. You read the title of the article and present whose comments will be on the mainstream. You get to the comments and ... bingo, 100 percent accuracy, all the same in the arena. Although, this author writes about it constantly. laughing
              1. New Year day April 20 2020 18: 34 New
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                And here ask your "party members" about it - Svarog, Stas, etc.

                I have my own party - this is me and what I see with my own eyes.
                Quote: Okolotochny
                Although, this author writes about it constantly

                I may not focus on the authors, but you must agree, the following:
                - pension reform
                -% on deposits
                - talk about freezing deposits
                - course depreciation
                - falling oil prices
                testify to the successful economic course of power?
                For 20 years she, the authorities, raped medicine, and now the remnants of medicine are suffocating. save people. Just do not tell me about the perfect of our medicine, nonsense, which says some gentleman by the fireplace
                1. Okolotochny April 20 2020 18: 42 New
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                  Sylvester, I'm not saying that our power is the fairest in the world. It is not in any state formation, it is utopia. I appreciate what I have. Compare what I had. For some of your indicators - I already wrote here that now EVERYTHING is lost, ABSOLUTELY, all over the world, those who are less, who are more, China will lose 7 percent of GDP (according to optimistic forecasts). We do not live according to Juche theory, right? Essentially, these processes affect us too. And it’s good that we now manage with money and fewer deaths than others. I feel sorry for people, very sorry, every morning I open the Internet and read as reports from the fronts. Did you mention Italy yourself? Well, that’s not how it is.
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                    . It is not in any state formation, it is utopia.

                    agree
                    Quote: Okolotochny
                    And it’s good that we now manage with money and fewer deaths than others.

                    I don’t mind!
                    Quote: Okolotochny
                    Did you mention Italy yourself? Well, that’s not how it is.

                    the difference between us and Italy is that they don’t lie there like ours.
                    “There are no cases of infection of doctors and medical staff with coronavirus from patients with a positive diagnosis in Russia. Russian Minister of Health Mikhail Murashko told reporters on Saturday.
                    You see, sick doctors, whom I know are, but the minister does not have them. And these are occupational diseases. Who guarantees that Covid does not leave consequences in the future? And the complications after Covid medication treatment! Very serious complications! And if the death of a medic? Who will pay for it?
                    Read: all hospitals are infected along with doctors and patients! And why? - because even those laws and orders the authorities (city, regional) do not want to execute. These situations are due to the negligence of administrations.
            2. Golovan Jack April 20 2020 19: 43 New
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              And who is Samsonov? Why is there such a stir around him?

              An alarmist is cleaner than you, doctor wink
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    1. New Year day April 20 2020 18: 01 New
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      Article lies to lies, the author should be ashamed of the "work" but where do people like him shame ....

      Are the harbingers of the crisis not noticeable? Pension reform,% on deposits, talk about blocking deposits, falling oil prices - what is this?
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        Sylvester, the harbingers of the crisis is that no matter what the authorities are undertaking, nothing really comes out of it. Self-isolation fails: the authorities did not know that the people were poor and not materially ready for it. And now, not only in Vladikavkaz, the rally was against, but also a very original rally in Rostov-on-Don - a network. I believe the number of rallies against self-isolation will increase. In our village, we completely ignore the epidemic, and therefore the instructions of the authorities.
        Further - the advertised help to the unemployed. Only those who work officially receive. And what will happen to those who worked informally? There are millions of them! The authorities did not know that we have such? Failure.
        Issuing interest-free mortgage loans due to bankers' resistance is a failure!
        Helping small businesses for the same reason is failure.
        Epidemic preparedness is zero due to optimized medicine.
        The initiative of the governors and mayors in carrying out self-isolation of the population - who is much worth it because of vague instructions, the lack of a legislative framework - is a failure.
        We can assume that the epidemic was first encountered, and therefore it turns out like this. But it can be considered differently, with the assumption that the authorities will cope with all subsequent political and economic challenges in the same way, that is, in no way. The inability of political power to cope with numerous challenges and the growing discontent of the people - these are the harbingers of the crisis.
        It seems that the authorities are hoping for the Russian "maybe!" Perhaps the curve will take out.
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    // The global global financial system is collapsing. Oil system. Countries that felt very good in the conditions of this system, including the Russian