Battle of history

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Few people know that exactly a year ago, at its 102 meeting, the UN Committee on Human Rights made a decision deciding that the prosecution for “denial of the Holocaust” is unacceptable for countries that signed the Convention on Human Rights. Worldwide, this decision was silenced. The Committee stated: "The Convention does not allow any general prohibition on the expression of erroneous opinions or misinterpretations of past events." (Paragraph 49, CCPR / C / GC / 34). This decision concerns, first of all, the French so-called. the law on prosecution, which was passed, in particular, against Holocaust researcher Professor Robert Faurisson. Footnotes 9 and 116 specifically refer to "The Law of Faurisson": "The so-called" memory laws "as in the process of Faurisson v. France, number 550 / 93", regarding which it is written: "Criminalization of the existence of a person of his own opinion is not compatible with paragraph 1 Harassment, intimidation or stigmatization of a person, including arrest, detention, trial or imprisonment for opinions that they may hold, is in violation of article 1 article 19 ". (For text see http://www2.ohchr. org / english / bodies / hrc / docs / CCPR-C-GC-34_en .doc)

Recall that in 1979, Mr. Robert Faurisson, a French philologist, wrote a book stating that the “myths” about the Holocaust and the gas chambers were created after the war. He was dismissed from the university, and later convicted. But in his defense was the famous linguist and philosopher Noam Chomsky (himself a Jew by birth), who wrote: "I do not see anti-Semitism in denying the existence of gas chambers or the Holocaust. I also do not see anti-Semitism in statements that the Holocaust ... is used by apologists for Israeli repression and violence. "

However, it is believed that Paul Rassinier, a former member of the Resistance and a prisoner of Buchenwald, was the first to "deny the Holocaust". In 1948, he published the book “Crossing the Line,” and in 1964, in the book “European Jewish Drama”, he argued that there were no gas chambers (in fact, there is still no convincing evidence either for or against this thesis) and that 0,5-1,5 million Jews perished. In 1974, in the book "Did six million die?" Richard Harwood argued that the entire 10 of thousands of Jews had died ... Many "deniers" refer to the lack of specific documents signed by the German leadership, as well as to the omission of the Holocaust in the memories of the leaders of the Resistance, the same General de Gaulle. Further books against the Holocaust were written by David Irving, Jürgen Graf, Frank Hankins, Raul Hilberg, Wilhelm Stedlich and other historians. All of them, one way or another, were subjected to repression. In a number of countries (Austria, Belgium, Germany, Israel, Canada, Lithuania, Liechtenstein, Luxembourg, Poland, Portugal, Slovakia, Slovenia, France, the Czech Republic, Switzerland, Canada and Israel), "Holocaust denial" is included in criminal codes.

Of course, it is impossible to deny the crimes of Adolf Hitler. It is impossible to deny the existence of the "death camps" themselves, in which Russians, Serbs, Poles, French, and, of course, Jews perished. The question is different. Whether the goals of the Hitler regime were purely “anti-Jewish” (as the Zionists and, incidentally, the “Hitlerists” themselves claim), or did the plans of the Führer and those who stood behind him include something completely different, and above all, dismemberment and destruction historical Russia.

The “Holocaust apologists themselves” also call it “shoah” - a sacrifice - and speak of its “mystery” and “unknowability”. But the former president of the World Zionist Organization, Naum Goldman, bluntly said in his Autobiography (1971) about the need for "Jewish solidarity" and that it was "the terrible extermination of millions of Jews by the Nazis that had a wake-up in the minds of ... this solidarity." On the other hand, Abram Zisman, who was sitting in the Stalinist camps, who fought in the penal battalion in the Soviet infantry, was captured by the Germans and later hid in Czechoslovakia, in his “Book on Russian Jewry”, the words of one of the prominent members of the Prague Jewish community: " Are these Hitler's executions a retribution for the vile participation of ours in Russia in 1917-1928? " (Stanislav Kunyaev talks about this).

At the same time, the Holocaust theme is obviously being used to create some kind of “world religion”, which has nothing to do with either Christianity or Orthodox Judaism of the “Mosaic Law”. The sacred sacrifice of Christ is replaced in this religion by a certain "collective sacrifice" of the "chosen people." “It’s not even about equality of the Church and talmudic Jewry,” writes Orthodox publicist Dimitri Savvin, “but about the hierarchy in which Jewry is given the leading role,” and at the same time “about the antisemitic“ sinfulness ”of the Holy Church, which is essentially its own is the denial and condemnation of the historical path of Christianity from the IV to the XX century "(see http://cas1961.livejournal.com/802662.html#cutid1).

The author of these lines does not "deny" and does not "argue" the fact of the Holocaust. It should be about scientific integrity - on both sides. And about spiritual sobriety - without falling into extremes. And the fact that the UN today is objective - on the side of such approaches - is not bad.
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  1. +31
    29 July 2012 06: 45
    The article deserves, in my opinion, attention and is one of the first responses to the very recent UN decision on the actual withdrawal of possible charges for denying the Holocaust. One of the headlines reads “Holocaust denial is legal”. From the article itself, I would like to highlight the words

    the theme of the Holocaust is obviously used to create a new "world religion" that has nothing to do with either Christianity or the Orthodox Judaism of the "Mosaic Law". The sacrifice of Christ on the Cross is replaced in this religion by a kind of "collective sacrifice" of the "chosen people"

    What we find numerous confirmations in the Western media, and in individual comments, and what confirms the lightning reaction of apologists of the theory of the Holocaust to the slightest doubt about this phenomenon. The Holocaust has almost been elevated to the rank of shrine and, specifically, by the state that has been carrying out a similar crime against other nations for many years.
    1. +16
      29 July 2012 10: 45
      The right article! It is the rewriting or writing of history for the sake of the interests of a certain nation or a certain circle of society that has been traced from ancient times! Take the Bible. When the clay tablets were found, it turned out that the story of the creation of the world was taken by Simit historians from the ancient Sumerians. Word by word! Moreover, the interpreters admitted a double interpretation of the woman’s appearance - the translated word had two semantic turns - primogenous and rib! And at us dosipore scientists keep statistics of the number of ribs in women and men.
      1. The Shrew
        +14
        29 July 2012 11: 06
        Of course, history must be objective, otherwise it is not history, but propaganda, mass manipulation of consciousness!
        But the Holocaust is a matter for us, to be honest, a third. We would have to wash our history.
        And the UN will not help us in this matter.
        1. Slayer
          +12
          29 July 2012 11: 26
          Quote: The Shrew
          Of course, history must be objective, otherwise it is not history, but propaganda, mass manipulation of consciousness!
          But the Holocaust is a matter for us, to be honest, a third. We would have to wash our history.
          And the UN will not help us in this matter.

          History was written as it was necessary for certain people in both antiquity and the Middle Ages and our time is no exception, our society is so arranged and you can’t do anything with it, you just need to educate your children correctly and teach them such inaccurate sciences as history itself
          1. +8
            29 July 2012 12: 34
            As it turns out, the past of a person on Earth is absolutely unpredictable at any segment of history. And unfortunately most of it is pure fiction. And, probably, the "originals of the chronicles" can be more or less partially reliable and the population census more accurate. And statistics and other conclusions on these statistics are so biased that they should not even be taken into account, since statistics are always biased. I generally keep quiet about the ratings - fiction with a very small grain of truth all over the world, without exception. And the Internet in general has turned into a garbage dump that has nothing with real life. That only is trolling with his homeland of the United States.
            1. The Shrew
              +8
              29 July 2012 13: 59
              Quote: alexneg
              partially authentic "originals of chronicles"

              I agree! But the authors of the chronicles are people too! One on the back of the neck drove, and although a good man, right there in the chronicle he became a bastard, a sadist and an "arsonist of anthills", and the other, a cattle, a pig, warmed his soul with a pig, and now a great leader and salt of the Russian land eye!
              1. +8
                29 July 2012 14: 07
                But I didn’t write that the annals are a reflection of the reality of those days, but I only emphasized that they are more or less close to realities. As long as I have confidence, only in the census data there is a very low percentage of error. Speaking of the Holodomor, about which many spears were broken, then this problem swept not only the then Soviet country, but the whole world. 17 million people were missed in America that year. and for some reason they are silent about it. Here is a striking example of redrawing history in a convenient way of the powers that be.
                1. Troyekurov
                  +9
                  29 July 2012 14: 30
                  Quote: alexneg
                  and for some reason they are silent about it

                  This always surprised me! Okay, they don’t want to remember, but ours don’t notice the obvious so carefully ?!
                  1. Ruff
                    +8
                    29 July 2012 17: 12
                    Quote: Troekurov
                    but ours something

                    Are they ours ???
                    1. Summer
                      +3
                      29 July 2012 21: 32
                      Ruff,
                      If we pay more, there will be "ours".
                  2. 11Goor11
                    +2
                    29 July 2012 22: 01
                    Troyekurov
                    ... but ours something so diligently do not notice the obvious ?!

                    Now "peaceful" relations between states are kept by one thread, to tear them apart by "remembering the old" when the country is not yet ready ... and it will never be ready, but still it is necessary to increase the "meat", and not to speed up the "denouement" , which 90% means the end of life on earth.
                    1. Jaromir
                      +2
                      29 July 2012 22: 32
                      11Goor11,
                      Commendable pacifism, I also do not advocate a blood bath.
          2. The Shrew
            +7
            29 July 2012 13: 54
            Quote: Slayer
            you just need to educate your children correctly and teach them such inaccurate sciences as history itself

            It would be good to educate yourself! And the story is such a nimble girl that you can’t keep up with it! I’m here, for example, about the absence of gas chambers of death - not with my foot!
            1. Troyekurov
              +5
              29 July 2012 14: 32
              Quote: The Shrew
              And the story is such a nimble girl that you can’t keep up with it

              Historians are still quicker, damned pimps. God has not given others ...
    2. FiremanRS
      +16
      29 July 2012 11: 17
      I totally agree. This hysteria about the extermination of Jews is already completely impossible. Under this auspices, Israel is breaking through all sorts of bonuses. Anyone who says even a word against is unconditionally declared anti-Semite. Despite the fact that the destruction of Slavs and other nationalities during World War II is quite comparable.
      1. +11
        29 July 2012 11: 50
        Quote: FiremanRS
        This hysteria about the extermination of Jews is already completely impossible. Under this auspices, Israel is breaking through all sorts of bonuses.


        If only Israel ... recently watched the BBC series about the Second World War ... It was generally some kind of farce. Yes, there in the Pacific Ocean the Yankees and Japans were killing each other ... Germans and Russians bothering something there near Stalingrad ... And THIS TIME THOUSAND JEWS DIED IN THE CASES - this is the main leitmotif of the 6 series movie. Moreover, it seemed that other nations simply did not fall into these camps. It’s just a nasty feeling left, it’s like you had to get crazy so that people (well, biologically people) would take it off.

        And what infuriates most is the fact that the same Jews quietly served in the German Wehrmacht. A bunch of facts.
        1. 755962
          +17
          29 July 2012 12: 42
          Among the myths of the 6th century created by the world behind the scenes, the myth of the "Holocaust" that 55 million Jews were allegedly exterminated in gas chambers during the Second World War is being introduced into the mass consciousness with particular insistence. Its purpose is to present the matter in such a way that it was the Jewish people who suffered the most, and therefore the rest of the nations are obliged to feel guilt, repent and pay compensation. The myth of the "Holocaust" offends humanity, because it represents the Jewish people as the main victim of the last war, although in reality the Jews suffered no more, and even less than many other peoples involved in the war of extermination, which was unleashed by the most consistent revival of imperial ideas of Western civilization, a maniac and man-hater (and not only in relation to Jews) Adolf Hitler. Mankind paid 6 million lives for this war, including the real, not the mythical share of the Jewish people, not 500 million, as the calculations of specialists show, but about XNUMX thousand people.
          Of course, this number is very large and arouses our deep condolences. However, is it possible to speak about the special sacrifice of Jews when the share of the Russian people (including the Little Russians and Belarusians) in these 55 million victims is at least 27 million men and women, children and the elderly? It was the Russian people, and not any other people, who drank the greatest cup of suffering during the Second World War and saved all mankind from the "new world order", which Hitler's current heirs - American presidents and their colleagues in Israel - are trying to impose today.
          1. The Shrew
            +9
            29 July 2012 14: 03
            Quote: 755962
            It was the Russian people, and not any other people, who drank the greatest cup of suffering

            But these links do not want to know or remember about this! Rather, they will tear their tongues under their measles, than honestly admit to whom they owe life!
        2. FiremanRS
          +10
          29 July 2012 17: 16
          Israel and nobody else! And I emphasize this statement. Let's remember that Jews (Israel) are demanding from Obama for electoral support. Moreover, they demand reasonably and on the basis that they can calmly order Jews of American origin to invest in one or another candidate, to support them with votes. For during the Second World War, they massively migrated from Europe to the United States. With regards to cinema. then watch NTV and the films broadcast by this "TV channel". Do you still have questions?
    3. +12
      29 July 2012 13: 04
      Hello. Valera! The topic not only deserves attention, it is relevant, the whole future of the world order depends on it. No literate person can deny that the Jews used the Second World War in their interests. In fact, the Second World War was prepared and launched by the World Jewish Economic Club, which we have talked about on our website more than once. Not only did the elite Jewish club make trillions in this war and the dollar became the world's reserve currency, but most importantly, the myth of the genocide and the Holocaust of the Jewish people was created, which gave rise to a guilty complex against Jews among most civilized nations of the world, which allowed Jews to undertake a worldwide expansion into the power structures of leading world powers and their economic blocks and bins, which means starting to lead the world de facto and de jure. It is only natural that the leaders of those countries that openly doubt the Holocaust are becoming renegades at the suggestion of the World Jewish Club and are declared villains and tyrants (Ahmadinijat in particular). I always asked my teachers from school the same question about the Second World War: if the Slavs were most destroyed, then why hasn't the UN made a decision to recognize the Slavic genocide? Why were the Jews honored with this right? What documents confirm the Holocaust ?. If Russia wants to develop further as a multinational and strong state, the issue of the Jewish genocide should become the same as the genocide of other peoples of our country and the world. Equal among equals. If the Jews continue to seek to subjugate the whole world, including through the manipulation of history, they will be expected not by a fictitious, but by the real Holocaust. History cannot be faked to please one people, even if this people considers itself God's chosen.
      1. +3
        29 July 2012 20: 02
        Victor,
        Salute, buddy! The whole comment is shine! But, especially, I would like to highlight the words
        Quote: Victor
        If Russia wants to develop further as a multinational and strong state, the issue of the Jewish genocide should become the same as the genocide of other peoples of our country and the world.

        This is already part of the "General line" of development. And this is worth its weight in gold ...
    4. Isr
      Isr
      -8
      29 July 2012 22: 11
      With all my heart I wish you, all deniers and doubters, that you and your loved ones will be destroyed in exactly the same way, burned in furnaces, buried in ditches. And then don't give an "obvious use" in separate comments.
      1. Fox 070
        +7
        29 July 2012 22: 20
        Quote: Isr
        I sincerely wish you

        In order to wish something from the bottom of the soul, you must first have this soul!
      2. +6
        29 July 2012 22: 32
        Quote: Isr
        With all my heart I wish you, all deniers and doubters, that you and your loved ones will be destroyed in exactly the same way, burned in furnaces, buried in ditches. And then don't give an "obvious use" in separate comments.

        Our loved ones began to be destroyed from the moment when some gentlemen who changed their surnames to Russian pseudonyms began a terrible experiment in 1917 on our Motherland and people, and this experiment lasted seventy years. Millions of destroyed, tortured, and mutilated lives. And even after all this, the Russian people have the courage not to shout about their pain and loss, but moreover, we still have time to wipe the sniffing noses of the failed countries of the former USSR. It’s not for you to tell us what pain is!
        1. +1
          30 July 2012 20: 23
          Mister Isr. It so happened that in my huge once kindred it was customary to know my story. so here’s a personal list for you:
          1. Killed in hostilities in the interval from 1.09.1939 to 22.06.1941 - 27 people.
          2. Missing at the same time - 14
          3. Died from the bombing - 3.
          4. Officially died in Katyn - 6
          5. Died in hostilities from 22.06.1941 to 1.09.1945 - 54
          6. Missing in the same period - more than 100
          7. Died in blockade in Leningrad - 201
          8. Died in German camps (known) - 9
          9. Died in the Soviet camps - 6.

          Quote: Isr
          destroyed your loved ones in exactly the same way, burned in furnaces, buried in ditches.


          Destroyed, burned, shot. What do you think is enough? They took away property, houses, everything else, starting from 17 of the year. And, nevertheless, my ancestors loved their homeland and fought for it. And then they did not howl with a loud voice that they were killing us. And you my personal FU ...
  2. +17
    29 July 2012 06: 47
    The objectivity of history is offset by urgent requirements and military propaganda power. A little more and we learn that the USSR was the main culprit of Jewish troubles; today's Russia is not able to defend our common historical legacy. I personally do not deny the mass targeted destruction of Russian Belarusians Jewish Ukrainians and I consider the isolation of any of this tragedy is a crime.
    1. +11
      29 July 2012 11: 56
      Quote: apro
      present Russia is not able to defend our common historical legacy.


      You're not right. What is "new Russia"? Power? Sorry, you're looking in the wrong place. And even in modern Russia enough patriots (not urya-patriots) who do not care about the past. Who is purely in his trench fighting with a shaft of historical lies, which is poured on us from the West. For starters, at least by raising their own children not in the spirit of Western lies, but in the way they were taught before. I know many young people from the age of 13 to 17 who are firmly convinced that it was not ordinary Ryan and soldier Jane who won the war. But there are those who do not care about who won and how. just need to work with it.
      1. Fox 070
        +6
        29 July 2012 12: 01
        Quote: Banshee
        But there are those who do not care about who won and how. just need to work with it.

        I agree with this 100%! Shake your hand! drinks
        1. Troyekurov
          +5
          29 July 2012 14: 34
          Fox 070,
          I press the second! And I'm going to argue too. drinks
          1. +4
            29 July 2012 19: 49
            Thank. I answer the same.
  3. +25
    29 July 2012 07: 02
    The Holocaust REACHED! One gets the impression that the only affected people are Jews. No one raises the question of tens of millions of Russians and other nationalities. The death of people has become a policy on which it is very profitable to earn points.
    1. bachast
      +7
      29 July 2012 07: 11
      No one raises the question of tens of millions of Russians and other nationalities.

      Well, first of all, you need to raise questions and remember the millions of dead Russians and other nationalities. And the word "got it" is, to put it mildly, inappropriate.
      The death of people has become a policy on which it is very profitable to earn points
      -I agree
      1. +12
        29 July 2012 07: 21
        Quote: bachast
        .A word "got" is to put it mildly inappropriate.

        And what is appropriate, on every corner screaming politics about the crimes of fascism? Yes, but what do those same politicians screaming about the Holocaust do — overthrow governments, destroy countries under various pretexts, destroy people, or is that not the case now? Those who shout about the Holocaust most of all are building camps and a new world order today. Inappropriate, if you think so, let it be inappropriate.
        1. bachast
          +5
          29 July 2012 07: 28
          I agreed with your words
          The death of people has become a policy on which it is very profitable to earn points.
          but the fact is that the "holocaust" is not only this, but also the death of people who have nothing to do with political games and the use of this term, political speculation. And for them it is as insulting as the desecration of monuments of the Second World War
          1. +14
            29 July 2012 07: 42
            Quote: bachast
            And for them it is as insulting as the desecration of WWII monuments

            But the same desecration comes from politicians, it is they who set the tone. Simple people sitting in the kitchen will slowly remember their relatives and friends, and will not scream at the whole world looking at dozens of television cameras.
            Quote: bachast

            I agreed with your words
            The death of people has turned into politics, where it is very profitable to earn points. but the fact is that the "holocaust" is not only this, but also the death of people who have nothing to do with political games and the use of this term, political speculation

            They have, just as they have, it is ordinary people who become victims and hostages of political rubbish screaming about world peace. It is ordinary people who pay their lives as a result of the speculation of politicians.
          2. +9
            29 July 2012 10: 51
            Hitler, Kalterbruner, Canaris, etc. What kind of nation were ?????
            1. The Shrew
              +6
              29 July 2012 11: 07
              Quote: vezunchik

              Hitler, Kalterbruner, Canaris, etc. What kind of nation were they?

              Most likely they themselves did not know! good Why nationality policy ??? Conjuncture is the path that leads from rags to riches!
            2. +8
              29 July 2012 12: 03
              Hitler is an Austrian, but dubious ... there were rumors that he had everything in order in terms of Jewish blood, but they cleaned everything up wonderfully.

              Kaltenbrunner - yes, a Viennese Jew.

              Canaris - as they say now in contact, "everything is complicated." There was still a cocktail there, so I wouldn't be surprised if anyone got in the way.

              You forgot Hess, Milch, Rosenberg. But still, +++
              1. Fox 070
                +9
                29 July 2012 12: 36
                Banshee,
                Given all of the above, we can conclude, which suggests itself:
                "Holocaust" is nothing but internal Jewish inter-clan showdowns. Moreover, the "affected" clan managed to squeeze significant financial preferences out of the "victors".
                Well, quite in the spirit of the famous Jewish enterprise.
                1. The Shrew
                  +8
                  29 July 2012 14: 07
                  Quote: Fox 070
                  Well, quite in the spirit of the famous Jewish enterprise

                  Well, what money is not made on! It would have been admirable if it hadn't been so disgusting.
                2. +6
                  29 July 2012 19: 51
                  You know, I would like to add something - I could not. Cool noticed. I completely agree.
        2. Fox 070
          +11
          29 July 2012 11: 27
          Quote: Alexander Romanov
          Inappropriate, if you think so, let it be inappropriate.

          What do you mean "inappropriate"? And it is appropriate, hiding behind the myth of the Holocaust, to create "democracy" with hands up to the elbows in blood. A nation that has survived such a genocide (if, of course, it happened) should treat the life of any person with great trepidation, and not exterminate entire nations in order to expand its living space. am
          1. Russian-
            +6
            29 July 2012 11: 44
            Quote: Fox 070
            to create "democracy" with hands up to the elbows in blood.

            To the throat, if not to the very top.
            1. +2
              29 July 2012 23: 27
              Quote: Fox 070
              to create "democracy" with hands up to the elbows in blood.

              Quote: Russ -
              To the throat, if not to the very top.

              Yes you! They just drink it. And they go fishing only at night, and they arrange the night for themselves with an undisguised lie. Oh, how I want the dawn to come soon.
      2. -1
        29 July 2012 07: 35
        a strange alias Bachast, but you are right I am for YOU
        1. bachast
          -5
          29 July 2012 07: 40
          abbreviation wink
    2. +10
      29 July 2012 10: 48
      Read Proust "Pharaoh" - well described this existence. No wonder the Egyptians rose up and drove them out of the country!
    3. Fox 070
      +10
      29 July 2012 11: 19
      Quote: Alexander Romanov

      The Holocaust REACHED!


      the famous linguist and philosopher Noam Chomsky (himself a Jew by birth), who wrote: "I do not see anti-Semitism in denying the existence of gas chambers or the Holocaust. I also do not see anti-Semitism in claims that the Holocaust ... is used by apologists for Israeli repression and violence."
  4. +16
    29 July 2012 07: 03
    On the one hand, they accuse Nazi Germany and fascism of exterminating millions of Jews. On the other hand, they turn a blind eye to how in the Baltic countries and Western Ukraine, old fascist shortcomings crawled out, like zombies, from all the cracks
    1. +15
      29 July 2012 10: 53
      You are right, the largest number of Jews was just destroyed by these ...! But they don’t touch! They are national heroes! And Jewish society is silent on this issue !!!
      1. The Shrew
        +12
        29 July 2012 11: 10
        Hitting the Baltic trifle does not give a profit! Nawaru zero, and therefore silent in a rag.
      2. Fox 070
        +8
        29 July 2012 11: 30
        Quote: vezunchik
        Jewish society is silent on this issue !!!

        It is not profitable and will not bring big political dividends.
        1. 0
          30 July 2012 14: 10
          Quote: The Shrew
          Hitting the Baltic trifle does not give a profit! Nawaru zero, and therefore silent in a rag.

          Quote: Fox 070
          It is not profitable and will not bring big political dividends.

          I agree. From the Germans it is still possible to demand a “gift vodka”, but from the Balts what? A jar of kosher sprat?
  5. GHG
    GHG
    +16
    29 July 2012 07: 15
    All the same, the Jews raped Hans. With compensation payments laughing
    Israel claims amounted to $ 1 billion (or 4,3 billion DM). In response, Germany put forward 25 questions to substantiate this figure and offered for its part 3 billion DM, without guarantees, since the economic situation of the German economy did not allow such guarantees to be given. And what else could be said if, at the same time, negotiations were held in London between the FRG and 30 creditor countries of pre-war Germany, which Minister of Finance Schaefer considered priority, and the head of the German delegation to them (G.J. Abs from Deutsche Bank) agreed with Boehm on a common tactic for not making any tough commitments?

    Israel did not like all this, and the Knesset voted to interrupt the negotiations. After that, both Boehm and Abs resigned, but Abs returned, and the negotiations in The Hague were actually connected with the negotiations in London, where they, starting in late June, were conducted through Abs and the Israeli ambassador to England. The first new German proposal - to supply Israel with $ 1 billion worth of goods - was rejected, but the second - within 10 years after the exchange of instruments of ratification, to pay $ 715 million - was accepted. Tranches were to be credited to an account authorized by the special Israeli diplomatic mission in Cologne, authorized by its government to make purchases of steel, machinery, equipment and other goods from this account. In the event of Germany's unexpected insolvency or excessive inflation, the parties agreed to resume negotiations; Israel refused any new material claims against Germany and, immediately after the entry into force of the treaty, agreed to start negotiations with Germany and Austria on compensation to Palestinian Jews for the funds received by Israel as a result of the sale of their assets. This agreement cannot be called otherwise reparation.

    It was signed by Adenauer and succeeding Sinnar as Minister M. Charet in Luxembourg on September 10, 1952, on the same day as the German agreement with the Claimes Conference, modified in two separate protocols. The treaty and protocols were ratified by the Bundestag and the Bundesrat, respectively, on March 18 and 21, 1953, and the FRG withstood tremendous pressure from the Arab world, which threatened the FRG with an economic boycott. The exchange of instruments of ratification took place on March 27, 1953 in New York.

    According to the agreement, Germany accepted the obligation to pay Israel DM 3,45 billion (or $ 845 million) in commodity form over a period of 12-14 years. 30% of this amount went to England for shipping, and the remainder was invested in the Israeli economy in the form of capital. Germany fully fulfilled its obligations under this agreement, thereby making a huge and perhaps decisive contribution to the Israeli economy, which was initially balanced on the verge of bankruptcy. Moreover, payments were completed already in 1956, that is, much earlier than the agreed deadline that expired in 1965. All this played a colossal foreign policy role: in 1965, diplomatic relations were established between Israel and the Federal Republic of Germany.

    The first protocol with the Claimes Conference provided for amendments to German restitution and compensation law, including the Claimes Conference authorization to make payments under the compensation law and a number of other important functions. According to the second protocol, Germany pledged to transfer Claimes Conference 450 million DM (or $ 110 million) no later than 1965. These funds were used to recreate hundreds of Jewish communities, institutes and organizations, as well as educational and cultural institutions in 39 countries of the world, including Israel (in particular, the Yad Vashem Institute and Memorial), the USA and Europe. $ 10 million was allocated to create the Memorial Foundation for Jewish Culture.
    Maybe they will want to milk us in the near future, like the Baltic states?
    1. 0
      29 July 2012 08: 18
      Maybe they will want to milk us in the near future, like the Baltic states?

      Then let them prove that it was we who attacked them, we destroyed them with millions in concentration camps.
      No, we need to get it from the Germans as well as from Ukraine, Latvia for the murder of millions of Russian citizens. Present a document confirming the payment of the Nth amount in euros.
      1. Kaa
        +16
        29 July 2012 08: 53
        Quote: Delink
        as well as from Ukraine,

        And Ukraine, what a fright you dreamed about? Read below, there are as many civilians as Russia has lost. And if you're talking about banderlogs, these are analogues of RONA, ROA and other evil spirits.
        1. The Shrew
          +9
          29 July 2012 11: 15
          Gentlemen, you do not find that we live in a too mercantile world, any conversation on any topic very quickly falls into a conversation about grandmothers !!!
          1. Troyekurov
            +6
            29 July 2012 14: 36
            The Shrew,
            I didn’t even imagine that money could ruin the people in such a way, and the glane could speed, time, and everything seemed stunned ...
    2. +10
      29 July 2012 09: 13
      Quote: GES
      All the same, the Jews raped Hans. With compensation payments

      At all times, God punished them and others for this. The Bible, Talmud, Koran tell about this and warn about the consequences. And when people become "deaf" - shows them what happens for it. And it doesn't matter if the punishment is called the Holocaust, genocide, Sodom, Gomorrah. It is important that then.
    3. sams
      +12
      29 July 2012 09: 19
      Nimble guys. In 1948, only the state of Israel was formed, and in 1952 they had already signed an agreement with Germany on the payment of reparations to them. Although, as a party, they did not participate in the war at all.
      1. sams
        +9
        29 July 2012 10: 21
        And another interesting point in the topic:
        "Attempts to rapprochement with Nazi Germany were made by the Zionists on several occasions. The most zealous supporters of the alliance with Nazi Germany were Yitzhak Shamir (later Prime Minister of Israel) and his closest associate Abraham Stern. Leadership of an odious terrorist organization led by Stern and Shamir - the Fighters for the Freedom of Israel (Lehi), openly declared the possibility and necessity of an alliance between Lehi and the Third Reich (Source: Lenny Brener Zionism in the Age of Dictators 1983) This alliance did not take place, after all, only because the Nazis did not want it. acted and are acting on the principle: the end justifies the means. Even if the cost to achieve these goals is millions of human lives. (It is quite consonant with the Nazi worldview). "
        http://left.ru/2006/13/rivlin147.phtml
        1. The Shrew
          +9
          29 July 2012 14: 11
          sams,
          It’s so easy to enter paradise on other people's tanks! It broke.
          1. +3
            29 July 2012 18: 59
            Quote: The Shrew
            It’s so easy to enter paradise on other people's tanks! It broke.

            Very figurative expression, colleague. I need to remember and ask permission to titrate laughing Expression - a find from the category - "my darling"! laughing A plus!
      2. +7
        29 July 2012 10: 56
        And who held the presidency in Germany after the war years until today? The Germans or something ????
        1. +8
          29 July 2012 12: 06
          Quote: GES
          Maybe they will want to milk us in the near future, like the Baltic states?


          Can. But do not forget that when milking a Russian bull (unlike a German cow), some complications may arise ... There is only one milking parlor ... laughing
    4. Ruslan
      0
      29 July 2012 16: 41
      According to the agreement, Germany accepted the obligation to pay Israel DM 3,45 billion (or $ 845 million) in commodity form over a period of 12-14 years. 30% of this amount went to England for shipping, and the remainder was invested in the Israeli economy in the form of capital. Germany fully fulfilled its obligations under this agreement, thereby making a huge and perhaps decisive contribution to the Israeli economy, which was initially balanced on the verge of bankruptcy. Moreover, payments were completed already in 1956, that is, much earlier than the agreed deadline that expired in 1965. All this played a colossal foreign policy role: in 1965, diplomatic relations were established between Israel and the Federal Republic of Germany. The Germans are not the people who forgive the scam - believe the Jews will pay the Germans (pay with their asses) like the French in a dug out carriage.
    5. Ruslan
      +4
      29 July 2012 16: 43
      Quote: GES
      According to the agreement, Germany accepted the obligation to pay Israel DM 3,45 billion (or $ 845 million) in commodity form over a period of 12-14 years. 30% of this amount went to England for shipping, and the remainder was invested in the Israeli economy in the form of capital. Germany fully fulfilled its obligations under this agreement, thereby making a huge and perhaps decisive contribution to the Israeli economy, which was initially balanced on the verge of bankruptcy. Moreover, payments were completed already in 1956, that is, much earlier than the agreed deadline that expired in 1965. All this played a colossal foreign policy role: in 1965, diplomatic relations were established between Israel and the Federal Republic of Germany.
      The Germans are not the people who forgive the scam - believe they will take their own from the Jews and with interest as they had from the French (remember the dug out carriage)
  6. +14
    29 July 2012 07: 27
    Quote: lewerlin53rus
    On the one hand, they accuse Nazi Germany and fascism of exterminating millions of Jews. On the other hand, they turn a blind eye to how in the Baltic countries and Western Ukraine, old fascist shortcomings crawled out, like zombies, from all the cracks

    I fully support. The usual distraction. So much shit is happening in the world and the threats of a terrible Holocaust are looming on our country.
    This whole chewer got it. Juvenile Justice scares me much more. This will be the real holocaust of all family values. Under the guise of guardianship officers, the Nazis will walk around our apartments and take our children under the pretext that you have few square meters and that you give the child a belt for bad behavior. And all the attention of society will be riveted to the Holocaust of the Jews of the 2nd World War and concerned about the fate of Afikan jerboas.
    1. +3
      29 July 2012 19: 06
      Quote: Magadan
      Juvenile Justice scares me much more. This will be the real holocaust of all family values.

      Greetings, colleague! This, indeed, is an iceberg collision which must be avoided in all possible ways! In no case should interested bureaucrats and agents of the fifth column be allowed to launch this vile HUMAN DESTROYING project!

      I beg the site administration to draw attention to this issue and conduct a kind of vote with the further transfer of data to interested authorities!
    2. 11Goor11
      +1
      29 July 2012 23: 16
      A very good article on how to deal with "juvenile" arrivals if this happened
      http://www.k-istine.ru/morals/uvenal_justice/uvenal_justice_law.htm
      1. Odessa
        +4
        29 July 2012 23: 44
        11Goor11,
        In Israel, too, once juveniles tried to arrange something similar. But one aspect must be taken into account that there is an anti-juvenile for each juvenile, i.e. not a venal and decent lawyer. All these incidents come from ignorance of the laws, which the juveniles try to use. on oranges aunts according to the laws of Israel, you have every right to not be allowed to enter the doorstep at all, otherwise there is a violation and infringement of privacy, etc. In Israel, a couple of social workers have already received lawsuits and are paying moral compensation to those who were tortured to mock. The inhabitants of Israel beat juveniles in the streets, sprayed tear gas in social departments, etc. Unless they mined them there, and the juvenile came from the United States, where homophobic marriages are legalized, they need children, the world has corrupted and is flying into the abyss .I think that in Russia, as in Israel, the juvenile does not take root, the people are thinking and competent, and if they fool around, then to the fullest and from the heart!
        1. +2
          29 July 2012 23: 55
          Odessa,
          Actually, I was looking (not a venal and decent lawyer) and did not find it. Interesting. But there are
          1. Odessa
            +3
            30 July 2012 00: 08
            igor67,
            Actually, I was looking (not a venal and decent lawyer) and did not find it. Interesting. But there are

            In addition to charlottes and suspicious lawyers, there are also `` lawyers from God '' in Israel, honestly, I met such people!
            1. +2
              30 July 2012 00: 13
              Odessa,
              I needed a lawyer for my daughter. she served in the army. I was looking for Russian on an Internet, the advertisement is beautiful. But it came to the point. Nobody wanted to take it. They took a Moroccan. in the beginning it was all rosy until the matter came to court. he declared -and who are you, you’re just a soldier of the IDF, you're nobody
              1. Odessa
                +2
                30 July 2012 00: 19
                igor67,
                Maybe they didn't agree on the payment? You need to negotiate the amount of the lawyer's fee in advance, some lawyers, if they are sure that `` the game is worth the candle, '' work for the final result.
                1. +2
                  30 July 2012 00: 23
                  the amount was agreed in advance. of the signature. everything is as it should be. simply the subscriber has more millions and better lawyers
                  1. Odessa
                    +1
                    30 July 2012 00: 31
                    igor67,
                    the amount was agreed in advance. of the signature. everything is as it should be. simply the subscriber has more millions and better lawyers

                    In previous posts, you emphasized the army, have you sued the IDF?
                    1. +2
                      30 July 2012 00: 32
                      Odessa,
                      no, there is such a chain of Kata stores. it served and detailed
                      1. Odessa
                        +2
                        30 July 2012 00: 35
                        igor67,
                        I don’t know, I have never heard.
                      2. +2
                        30 July 2012 00: 40
                        and thank God.
        2. 11Goor11
          +2
          30 July 2012 00: 10
          Thanks Esther, pleased, this is always a pleasure to read laughing Oh ... but of course we as politically correct citizens sympathize with the injured officials lol
          In Ukraine, their habits were generally sent away, even in parliament.
          And in Russia, after a wave of popular indignation, the consideration of the bill was postponed until the fall.
  7. +5
    29 July 2012 07: 27
    In my opinion, our authorities need to raise the issue of Nazism again, as in the Soviet Union, and constantly exaggerate this topic in the media, but at the same time do not forget the "exploits" and some representatives of the fraternal peoples from the former socialist camp, former Soviet republics and allies in the anti-Hitler coalition
  8. Kaa
    +12
    29 July 2012 08: 13
    And what about this? What to call, with whom to demand?
    Assessment of the loss of civilian population in Russia in the Great Patriotic War
    (p. 95)
    Nationalities Losses of the USSR among persons of a given nationality (million people) The proportion of people of a given nationality - residents of Russia (%) Losses by Russia of people of a given nationality in the war (million people)
    Russians 6,9 0,912 6,3
    Ukrainians 6,5 0,095 0,6
    Belarusians 1,7 0,045 0,1
    Others 3,2 0,113 0,4
    Total 18,3 X 7,4
    http://www.demoscope.ru/weekly/2010/0419/biblio02.php
    The civilian population of the Soviet Union deliberately exterminated in the temporarily occupied territory
    Republics Number of exterminated inhabitants
    Total Including children

    RSFSR 1800000 over 15000
    Ukrainian SSR 3256000 more than 75000
    BSSR 1547000 78600
    Lithuanian SSR 370000 over 10000
    Latvian SSR 313798 (including 100 thousand inhabitants of Lithuania) 34831
    Estonian SSR 61
    Moldavian SSR 64246 more than 3000
    Karelo-Finnish SSR 8028
    Total 7420379 216431

    The population hijacked by the Nazis from the temporarily occupied territory of the USSR to work in Germany

    Extermination methods Number of victims
    Intentionally exterminated 7420379
    Died in forced labor in Germany 2164313
    Died from the deliberately cruel conditions of the occupation regime (starvation, infectious diseases, lack of medical care, etc.) 4100000
    Total 13684692
    http://voina-cccp-germaniya.narod.ru/gragnas.html
    1. DIMS
      +11
      29 July 2012 11: 32
      Quote: Kaa
      And what about this? What to call, with whom to demand?


      It's very simple - in the same Belarus, most of the victims were declared Jews. Although this is somewhat untrue. Indeed, in 1941, the extermination of mainly Jews and prisoners was carried out on the territory of the republic. But only later, with the rise of the partisan movement, the terror was transferred to the countryside. Moreover, the civilian population was destroyed both "spontaneously", both in Khatyn, and systematically, as during operations "Winter Magic" or "Polar Bear"
  9. +8
    29 July 2012 08: 18
    The Holocaust has long raised many questions for me. Attempts to find some sources and evidence - run into a dead end. And these are mostly Israeli sources. The impression is that Israel decided that 6 million died - this is an immutable truth and is beyond doubt. And even more so at that time after the war, then people rejoiced at the Victory and on this wave, as well as on the facts of the cruelty of the Nazis (oh, not a little), cunning Jews formed and gave out to the mountain - the Holocaust. With a focus on the future. And they did it. Manipulation of the consciousness of peoples. For example, we can cite the "Execution of Polish Officers", for many it was a shock when at first Gorbachev provided "documents" and admitted the fact of execution. And then the international court denied and recognized all these documents and confessions to be fake. But, in the minds of the public, the notion that it was we and only we who shot the Poles was fixed. The same goes for the Holocaust. Moreover, at that time, it was not possible to verify many facts. I carefully studied the interrogation records of the Nuremberg trials. So, there they mainly pay attention to crimes, and any attempts of the Germans to refute or prove that much was not as presented - were swept aside, under the weight of "evidence". The winner is always right. I do not in any way defend fascism and do not want to offend the Jewish people. But in matters of the Holocaust there is a lot that raises doubts.
    1. sams
      +2
      29 July 2012 09: 33
      "... Attempts to find some sources and evidence are running into a dead end ...."
      Why? Here, for example, is a rigorous and fairly brief study of this topic:
      http://www.erlib.com/%D0%AE%D1%80%D0%B3%D0%B5%D0%BD_%D0%93%D1%80%D0%B0%D1%84/%D0
      %9C%D0%B8%D1%84_%D0%BE_%D0%A5%D0%BE%D0%BB%D0%BE%D0%BA%D0%BE%D1%81%D1%82%D0%B5/0/
    2. +3
      29 July 2012 10: 59
      That's why the Lord punished the Poles
  10. +6
    29 July 2012 08: 21
    The information war (the Holocaust is one of the key topics of this war) is not predictable, due to the unpredictable reaction of the human factor. Even if you gobble up the cake, it will cause vomit, and here they’ve been fed shit for decades.
    1. Fox 070
      +1
      29 July 2012 11: 44
      Quote: hrych
      for decades fed shit.

      No, colleague, not for decades, but if you count from the baptism of Russia, then more than 1000 years.
  11. +3
    29 July 2012 09: 03
    In addition to the Holocaust, there are other controversial issues in Europe. When he was president, N. Sarkozy, in order to enlist the support of French Armenians, passed a law punishing the denial of the Armenian genocide at the beginning of the last century by the Turks. The adoption of this law has complicated relations between France and Turkey. There were elections in Turkey last year, radical Muslims sought power. In Europe, too, are not fools; they do not need secular Turkey either. I think that adoption "The Convention does not permit any general prohibition on the expression of erroneous opinion or misinterpretation of past events" Political goals were set, not only related to the Holocaust, but also with the aim of supporting friends in Turkey, including relieving tension in relations between France and Turkey.
  12. Horde
    +3
    29 July 2012 09: 22
    It is unacceptable to prohibit the study of history under the guise of a "Holocaust", to prohibit historians from working with archives and to prosecute historians. It is unacceptable to display intolerance towards the own opinion of historians and politicians.
    As soon as Amadinejad spoke out against Israel's fascist policy against the Palestinians at the UN meeting and expressed doubts about the "Holocaust", representatives of the United States, France, Germany, England and other countries led by Zionists blew up from their seats and defiantly pushed out of the hall.
  13. cool.cube2012
    +15
    29 July 2012 09: 43
    Who and why did the Holocaust come up with?
    The history of the Jewish people is full of myths and legends that create the idea of ​​Jews as a nation forever persecuted and persecuted.
    The biggest fabrication of the Jews is the myth of the so-called Holocaust - the mass extermination of persons of Jewish nationality during the Second World War. This is called a fantastically huge figure - 6 million people, while on the whole territory occupied by Nazi Germany, there were a little more than five million Jews. In other words, after the war in Europe there should not have been a single Jew. That this is not so does not require any evidence. Jews still live in all countries of Europe and America.
    So how many of them died during the Second World War? Really, six million people or much less? Most researchers on this issue agree on the figure of 400-600 thousand people. That is, the figure invented by the Jews is overstated at least ten times.
    Why is this done? To form and introduce into the consciousness of people a special attitude to the Jewish nation. Like a nation that has drunk the bitter cup of suffering. No words, the Jewish people suffered severe trials, but the same severe trials fell on many peoples.
    Especially great losses were suffered by the Russian and Belarusian peoples.
    1. Without the Holocaust, there would be no Israel
    But back to the Jews. Only against the backdrop of the Holocaust, the world agreed to the creation of the state of Israel. The fact is that it was created on lands already inhabited by the Palestinian people. In a word, some need to be expelled, while others should be settled.
    And drove out! The most ruthless way expelled! Moreover, in 1949, Israel seized additional Arab territories.
    The expulsion of the Palestinians was accompanied by a new wave of repression against the Arabs. In 1992, 15 Palestinians were in prison, where they were tortured. Palestinian homes exploded. The property of the Arabs was expropriated.
    All this happened before the eyes of the world community.
    Everyone understood: yes, wrong things are being done against the Palestinians; yes, the Palestinians are suffering. But what, people thought, are the suffering of the Palestinians compared to the Holocaust, compared to the suffering that the Jews suffered under Hitler!
    In short, the people who invented the Holocaust looked far ahead. They foresaw much - not only the creation of a Jewish state. They foresaw that the newly created state would rise due to cash flows generated by the same Holocaust. And so it happened.
    West German "compensation" accounted for a significant share in the financial flows.
    Naum Goldman, chairman of the World Jewish Congress, in his book "The Jewish Paradox" frankly wrote:
    "Without the German compensation, which was paid in the first 10 years after the founding of Israel, the state would not have been able to develop even half of the existing infrastructure: the entire railway fleet, all ships, all power plants, as well as most of the industry is of German origin."
    To the above, you still need to add German free deliveries of various goods.
    Financial injections into the economy and culture of Israel came and are coming not only from Germany, but also from the United States and from international Jewry. Not without their participation, and "personnel" injections into Israel. Many Russian Jews, for example, received their diplomas in our country, and "work out" them in Israel.
    2. Was there a program for the extermination of Jews?
    All Jewish authors unanimously state that Hitler carried out a targeted program of extermination of Jews. However, from 1945 to the present, not a single Hitler’s instruction or order on the destruction of persons of Jewish nationality has been discovered.
    Yes, they died in concentration camps from hunger and disease.
    Yes, they were shot.
    But they died, they were shot along with the French, Belgians, Dutch, British, Estonians, Latvians. But none of the listed representatives of other nationalities scream about genocide. Only the Jews! Although, we repeat again, they died along with representatives of many other nations.
    Further. Jews insist that they were destroyed with the help of special gas chambers with persistence worthy of a better application.
    It was said above that until then, not a single Hitler order for the extermination of the Jews was discovered. In the so-called "death camps" (Auschwitz, Treblinka, Sobibor, Belzek, Majdanek, Helmn and others) not a single gas chamber was found.
    Gas chambers for processing clothes and shoes (lice were teeming in the camps) were found, but no chambers for strangling people and furnaces for burning corpses were found.
    These are the facts. But God forbid you to doubt the number of victims of the Holocaust or the presence of gas chambers - and such a flurry of accusations of anti-Semitism, chauvinism, nationalism, fascism will fall upon your head that, as they say, will not seem enough.
    If it were only verbal accusations!
    Marcel Duprat, who was distributing Richard Harwood's Six Millions - Lost and Found, was killed by a bomb planted in his car, after which Jewish organizations issued a press statement expressing their approval of the murder and warning others about the consequences of trying to analyze everything. what has become known as the "Holocaust".
    Near the house of E. Zundel, publisher of the book by Richard Harwood, a bomb was detonated, and then the house was set on fire.
    The house of the Swiss historian Jürgen Graff, author of the book The Myth of the Holocaust, was also burned down.
    French historian, professor F. Dorison was severely beaten.
    In France, Germany, Austria, Portugal, Spain, Denmark, Holland, Switzerland, laws were passed prescribing punishment for any attempt to deny the "fact" that six million Jews were killed under the plan of Hitlerite Germany.
    German engineer German Rudolph, who questioned the existence of gas chambers in Auschwitz, was sentenced to 18 months in prison ...
    Above, we have already talked about the fact that every non-Jew who "poked his nose" into the Torah was waiting for death. The same punishment was expected for reading the Talmud.
    In Soviet Russia, people were sued only for keeping the book "The Protocols of the Elders of Zion." One could go to jail and even be shot for the word "Jew".
    At all times there was and remains one "method": to keep people in the dark; everything that can reveal the true face of the Jews, shroud in a thick darkness of obscurity.
    So, there was no mass extermination of Jews. But what happened? What was one of the reasons for the creation of the Holocaust myth?
    There was a forced emigration of Jews from Nazi Germany in the mid-30s.
    It is important to note that although the Jews were forced to emigrate, they were allowed to leave the country with their fortune.
    The reasons for the forced emigration were as follows: after the First World War, Jews in Germany seized all key posts in jurisprudence, financial bodies and the media, although they made up only five percent of the country's population.
    It has been argued for decades that the decision to massacre Jews was made at the Wannsee Conference on January 20, 1942. However, when reading the minutes of the conference, it is revealed that they do not say a word about any physical extermination of Jews. It was only about "evacuation" and "eviction".
    The fact that soap was produced from the fat of murdered Jews was not confirmed either. The acronym, ostensibly meaning "pure Jewish fat," is actually a designation for a government agency that distributes soap and other cleaning products.
    In 1980, Jewish researcher Walater Lakwe, in his book The Awful Secret, honestly admitted that the story of human soap was fantasy.
    The story of the use of corpses as fertilizer turned out to be a fantasy.
    Despite the persecution and terror, the truth about the Holocaust is gaining strength. And the day is not far off for the complete triumph of the truth about the Holocaust, although, we repeat this again and again, they were innocently killed, and before the memory of them we bow our heads in deep sorrow.
    Do not just exaggerate! It is not necessary only to use the death of the innocently killed in political and selfish affairs. This is blasphemy!
    And a few words about Babi Yar - one of the many tragic pages of the Nazi occupation.
    We emphasize: Babi Yar is one of the many tragic pages of the Nazi occupation. There was siege Leningrad, there was Khatyn ... There was much more in 1418 days of the most brutal, most bloody war.
    The number of victims in Babi Yar in various kinds of reports and media has been growing gradually, from year to year - at first there were 33 thousand, then 300 thousand, although it is known from some sources that by the time the Nazis entered Kiev, there were 33 thousand Jews, not to mention 300 thousand. Almost all Jews from Kiev were evacuated. source http://nfor.org/stati/politika-i-obshestvo/chto-dolzhny-znat-ruskie-o-evrejah.ht
    ml
    1. +6
      29 July 2012 11: 04
      Moreover, mere mortals left with a bundle of linen and documents, and the elect of God took their property in cars!
    2. +7
      29 July 2012 11: 16
      Thank you Sergey, I would also like to add that Israel at the state level forbids the exhumation of the remains for examination. The places of the alleged mass graves of people of Jewish nationality are constantly monitored, and God forbid anyone investigate, screaming all over the world.
      1. +5
        29 July 2012 19: 10
        After the liberation of Taganrog in 43g. On the spot, a mass burial of residents was carried out to identify and determine the number of victims of fascism-- over a period of 10.41. to 08.43g. more than 10 people. (with the population in the city at about 000, about 41). Of the number shot through, approximately 120/000 of the Jewish population
    3. The Shrew
      +6
      29 July 2012 11: 26
      cool.cube2012,
      Wait for the bomb out the window! Competent Zionists have already left for you! Yes
      1. +1
        29 July 2012 12: 09
        Sergey, thanks. It was very reasonable and fair. + 100.
    4. +2
      29 July 2012 13: 14
      Sergey, a wonderful post. Water will always find a hole, and historical truth! Thanks again!
    5. +4
      29 July 2012 18: 57
      There were gas chambers and ovens in the "death camps", but they were poisoned and burned out not only Jews, but people of all nations and a lot of owls, prisoners of war who tried to escape from captivity. Fertilized not with corpses, but with ashes from burnt people. This fact has been proven by an international tribunal.
    6. +1
      29 July 2012 19: 11
      cool.cube2012,

      Sergey, I greet you and I am glad that at least in this matter we are on the same side! Plus your comment and - "we hope for further fruitful cooperation" wink drinks And then your cons - like a sickle ...
  14. sams
    +5
    29 July 2012 09: 52
    Quote: Horde
    As soon as Amadinejad spoke out against Israel's fascist policy against the Palestinians at the UN meeting and expressed doubts about the "Holocaust", representatives of the United States, France, Germany, England and other countries led by Zionists blew up from their seats and defiantly pushed out of the hall.

    And more recently, until 1991, UN Resolution No. 3379 was in force, equating Zionism with “a form of racism and racial discrimination”. Gorbachev and Shevarnadze also worked here ...
  15. +5
    29 July 2012 10: 32
    The death of people has become a policy on which it is very profitable to earn points.

    Not only glasses, this is a very good business.

  16. cool.cube2012
    -1
    29 July 2012 11: 21
    here is a very informative material about the masters of Russia "Jews, leave us alone or we will make you do it" source http://newvesti.info/evrei-ostavte-nas-v-pokoe-ili-my-zastavim-vas-eto- sdelat /
  17. zevs379
    +8
    29 July 2012 11: 27
    The Jews even turned the killing of their brothers into another source of squeezing money. Nasty and disgusting.
    1. Russian-
      +4
      29 July 2012 11: 45
      Quote: zevs379
      The Jews even turned the killing of their brothers into another source of squeezing money. Nasty and disgusting

      Yes, they’re already all mired there by their very weakness in their own .......!, Lies, hatred and greed.
    2. Fox 070
      +4
      29 July 2012 11: 54
      Quote: zevs379
      The Jews even turned the killing of their brothers into another source of squeezing money.

      "Squeezing money" in any situation has become for them a national trait, which the whole world makes fun of. But sometimes this greed leads to hypertrophied consequences. Here, admire this material and I warn you - this is not a duck.
  18. +5
    29 July 2012 11: 55
    It is difficult, of course, to consider such a question as the genocide of the Jews.
    Someone says that there was, someone that, no more than the rest.

    One thing is for sure. The Israelis were able to use this to the maximum.
    Now one cannot say anything bad about a Jew. Immediately peck and blame for all mortal sins. And no one cares what a Jew can really be wrong.
    I would say that they did it very conveniently.
    They are now always innocent.
    Tricky .... you won't say anything.
    Well, the fact that the Russians died not 6 million but almost twenty (this is minus the losses of the Army and Navy). And the most important thing is to prove it. Everyone agrees and everyone knows ... then this is apparently in the order of things.
    We apparently do not follow people in the world community.
    1. DIMS
      +4
      29 July 2012 12: 00
      The genocide of the Jews is really a fact. But you cannot isolate your own national from the general tragedy of the whole of Europe and arrange political dances on the bones on this occasion.
    2. Fox 070
      +5
      29 July 2012 12: 10
      Quote: volkan
      We apparently do not follow people in the world community.

      We are GOIs for them, and not just goyim, but Slavs sticking out with a log in the eye and preventing us from glancing at the defeated and broken world for ourselves. Therefore, with all the apparent peacefulness of our bilateral relations, there will be no peace between us! Too different goals we set for ourselves. We want to return strength and self-respect to our Motherland, and they want to see the Slavic world trampled ...
      Either we them, or they us !!!
      1. +6
        29 July 2012 14: 13
        Fox 070

        I can not disagree with you.
        The number of facts confirming the explicit "anti-Slavic" and "anti-Russian" policy, which the "chosen people" adhered to at all times, exceeds all permissible limits.
        It seems quite obvious to people that Jews have a grudge against us. Why? There are also a lot of versions.
        But again, Jews despised by all countries and at all times, were able to wrap this up for their own benefit and make of themselves, eternal sufferers.
        So any state that suddenly decides to announce some kind of "Jewish intervention" in its own destiny will be "punished" by the world community, which is ruled again by these very Jews.
        They essentially blew up the world except us.

        I have already quoted words that well characterize their attitude towards us,
        But I will bring it again. This is very appropriate here.

        In all countries where Jews settled in large numbers, they lowered their moral standard, commercial honesty, isolate themselves and are not amenable to assimilation. They ridiculed and tried to undermine the Christian religion. They established a state in the state and, in case of opposition to them, seek to mortally strangle the country financially. If we, through the Constitution, do not exclude them / from the United States /, then in less than two hundred years they will rush in large numbers, gain the upper hand, swallow the country and change the form of our government. If you do not exclude them, then in less than two hundred years our descendants will work in their fields to provide them with food, while the Jews will rub their hands in money-changing offices. I warn you, gentlemen, that if you do not exclude the Jews forever, your children will curse you in your graves.

        BENJAMIN FRANKLIN / 1706-1790 / American physicist and politician. From a speech in the discussion of the US Constitution in 1787

        (Famous Jew. Some kind of messiah. In 1999 he was awarded the highest prize of the USA “Gold Medal of Congress” by MENAHEM SCHNEERSON - “OUR PLANS ARE RELATIVELY SLAVAN”

        Our special tactics of combating red-brown (and all Slavs are red-brown), because of its isolation, is Secret Knowledge. We will direct the main spearhead of the struggle against the Slavs, except for the renegades who became related to the Jews by the same interests. True, we will then withdraw these “related” ones after using them for our own purposes from our society. Slavs, and among them Russians, are the most rebellious people in the world. He is rebellious by virtue of the warehouse of his psychic and mental abilities, laid down by many generations of ancestors, genes that are not amenable to alteration. Slav, Russian, can be destroyed, but never conquered. That is why this seed is subject to elimination, and at first - to a sharp reduction in its number.

        Put the youth down - and you will defeat the nation! This is our motto. We deprive your society of youth, corrupting it with sex, rock, violence, alcohol, smoking, drugs, that is, deprive your society of the future. We will hit the family, destroying it, reduce childbearing.
        Hitler was a stupid boy. He acted directly, openly. And I had to do an incredibly large job - to burn, shoot, bury millions and the like. He left bloody traces. We act more cunningly: we will have no traces. To reduce childbearing by at least half is to destroy 2–3 million Russians a year without any physical costs. No furnaces, cartridges, graves. And no trace. Not born. There are no guilty.
        1. Fox 070
          +6
          29 July 2012 18: 07
          Quote: volkan
          They ridiculed and tried to undermine the Christian religion.

          Dear Andrey! In fact, both Christianity and Islam are the offspring of Judaism, the offspring that was "presented" to us in order to pacify the Slavic spirit and love of freedom with the thesis "any power from God."

          With your permission. I ALLOW YOURSELF TO ADD MULTIPLE:
          MENAHEM SCHNEERSON - “OUR PLANS ABOUT SLAVAN”
          7. But the main thing is money. They do everything. They are power. They are power. He who has money has a weapon. Ultra modern. He has a mercenary army. Money is owned by the media fooling billions of livestock. They bribe the people we need. Clean up the rebellious. Bombing resisting fans - Iraqis, Serbs, in the future - Russians. Everything is decided by capital and seizure of power. Over the accumulation of capital and seizure of power, we have been practicing for more than three millennia, and no one in this business will snock out with us. You don’t have your money. Authorities too. You do not have them and never will! Do not give!
          We hate you immensely! This hatred gives you the power to smile sweetly in your face, inculcate confidence in you and guide you, showing "care" for you and your children, future grandchildren and great-grandchildren, who in reality will not appear.

          You are doomed. And until you understand this simple truth, while you twitch, until then you will be beaten more than you should. Be obedient - you will have 65 - 70 million units, otherwise - 40-45.

          The main thing now is to keep us at least another 2-3 years. And then for us there will be no problems here in this country. We will create such protective equipment that none of you will move. Everything that will be, we know, is controlled and secretly controlled. And no one can stop us!

          http://radosvet.net/13691-menahem-shneerson-nashi-plany-otnositelno-slavyan.html
    3. stroporez
      0
      31 July 2012 16: 32
      Slavs --- not people. read the manual on anthropology, Yale University .....................
  19. Fox
    +6
    29 July 2012 12: 19
    there was no holocaust, but it was invented ... a thought is material ... that means the Holocaust WILL!
    1. Nir
      Nir
      -1
      30 July 2012 10: 59
      Quote: Fox
      there was no holocaust, but it was invented ... a thought is material ... that means the Holocaust WILL!

      Dreaming Well, then dream on, just break off to such dreamers from the IDF and NATO, keep the corman wider than the fox.
  20. +3
    29 July 2012 12: 35
    Guys, the fact that the Holocaust in our time is an instrument of political pressure and indulgence for Israel agrees ... that’s all, but let's not slip into the idea of ​​driving the snowstorm on all Jews ... I don’t know. how many of them died during WW2, but is it really that important? Yes, ours are more ... but is that Jewish wine? I believe that no one doubts that the Nazis were especially fond of Jews and Gypsies, about whom everyone is silent and nothing to compensate for at all ..... the people who remained in the ditches are also not to blame.
    The Holocaust, which has bored everyone’s teeth, with which the current leadership of Israel covers up any crimes, really got it .... but I believe that we made a big mistake in our time, that we did not pursue the same policy, admittedly, it’s very effective, and we didn’t blame it Europe, actively involved in the nightmare that was happening in our occupied territories.
    And I don’t need to talk about Jews .... I personally have a bad attitude towards the state of Israel, pursuing an unfriendly policy towards us .... but I consider it shameful to argue that the Jews again destroyed by drinking fresh water in the whole district ... . Damn, at least kill.
    1. Fox 070
      0
      29 July 2012 12: 43
      Quote: smile
      Yes, ours are more ... but is that Jewish wine?

      And whose fault, if the leadership of Hitler’s Germany is entirely Jews ?!
      1. +1
        29 July 2012 13: 08
        Fox 070

        Well, it’s not entirely entirely half-breeds .... and in our leadership that then, that now they are incomparably more than they make up in the country's population ...
        But I believe that those in whom Jewish blood flowed from the German leadership of that time did not consider themselves Jews, did not profess Judaism. In addition, one must not forget the saying - about the "Holy Pope" ... Probably, Heydrich distinguished himself in the field of exterminating Jews because he tried to prove it to himself. that he is a true Aryan ..
        Answering the question - I do not know. Is it necessary to look for the guilty? But I do not believe that it is such a cunning .... woven Jewish conspiracy, according to which almost the entire population of Germany did not actively like Jews and took a feasible part in their extermination, but meanwhile, in the leadership of Reich 3, it made a nest the conspiratorial Jewish gang that ruled Hitler ...
        1. Fox 070
          +1
          29 July 2012 17: 56
          Quote: smile
          . Is it necessary to look for the guilty?

          Not just necessary, but vital !!! If the world finds out where this trouble (World War II) grows legs from, we will try to avoid repeating such a scenario. Otherwise, everything will be repeated, but with even more terrible consequences.

          Quote: smile
          I don’t believe that it’s so cunning .... a woven Jewish conspiracy,

          But do not believe in vain! I have great respect for your comments and I am sincerely sorry that you do not see, in my opinion, the obvious things. This is indeed a very cunning conspiracy whose main goal is to achieve world domination.
          1. +5
            29 July 2012 18: 16
            Fox 070 (
            If you look for those responsible for inciting 2MB and the next European campaign to visit us, then there will be many who are guilty, and not all of them are Jews .... there are no words - the world financial elite is what then, now ... uh, how to say it - suffers from the inexplicable presence of people of the same nationality ... it didn’t pass me by .... but I doubt the omnipotence of these guys ... all the more. that the prominent Jews from this have miserable echoes of an echo ... - almost no hell. And it is precisely the same influence that they exert on world politics .... and this clan of the same nationality .... so it is as supranational as the Jews who promoted Nazi ideas .... by the way, 130 Wehrmacht troops who had Jewish blood were awarded the orders and medals of the Reich (the question is only in the degree of this blood) ...
            but I see events, groups that I do not like, the excessive presence of both there and there persons, in whose veins Jewish blood flows ... that's it! ... I do not completely deny your argumentation - it has enough grounds to recognized as serious ..... just I suppose the clans. who took the commanding place in the matter of disposing of the World Bubble Jews consider themselves out of habit ..... well, tell me, what's up with an ordinary Jew who lives in Israel? So. proud of "our people" and that's it! .... I suppose here it should be about the clans and not about the whole nation. which, while the forces were not persecuted, and how they appeared - became a persecutor, By the way, the clans managing the economy and politics of the World were formed long before ordinary Jews left the persecuted state ... there are objections - write. I'm interested!
            1. bachast
              -1
              29 July 2012 18: 25
              That's the thing. Well, let the participants say to whom the Jews interfere with life. How is this expressed in everyday life? Give an example? In the line at the store? On the street when a drunk crowd is harassing people? On a bus? A drunk neighbor in a train? How ? Where? Jews infringe?
              1. +2
                29 July 2012 19: 00
                At the factory where I worked, the owner had the misfortune of hiring a Jewish executive director. He successfully robbed the factory, for which he was fired. Now the plant is closed, 500 people lost their jobs. My son goes to school, for the education of all parents they are forced to pay to the educational fund, whose founder is Jewish.
                1. Nir
                  Nir
                  -1
                  30 July 2012 11: 01
                  Quote: Grenader
                  At the factory where I worked, the owner had the misfortune of hiring a Jewish executive director. He successfully robbed the factory, for which he was fired. Now the plant is closed, 500 people lost their jobs. My son goes to school, for the education of all parents they are forced to pay to the educational fund, whose founder is Jewish.

                  A case of Jews you have not drunk all the water from the tap? And they can eat your brain with a spoon once you write such things?
              2. +3
                29 July 2012 19: 05
                bachast
                C'mon, don’t run into ours too much ... all this garbage to deny that the Germans didn’t spread the Jews from ours .... but the fact that the dominance of a certain nationality in a certain place ... . basically warm ... makes people think .... sorry only. that the conclusions apply to all Jews ..... Colleagues, I declare that I respect Jews, both ordinary and as a nation (I exclude from the list of respected backstage) - look - starting from the age of 14-15 they start to tear (earlier less seriously, because I don’t mention it) .... Spain, France, Germany and other undeserving countries, the Inquisition, Hussite wars ........ well, imagine what kind of core a nation should have. so that at the same time .... they can not be loved, especially since they give reason to this .... but they are worthy of respect!
                And I absolutely sincerely believe that we have not yet lost the opportunity to make allies of them .... at least neutralize US influence .... here! :))))))
                1. Fox 070
                  0
                  29 July 2012 19: 34
                  Quote: smile
                  I absolutely sincerely believe that we have not yet lost the opportunity to make allies of them.

                  As I already wrote, we will not become allies, not because we do not want this, but because they do not need it.

                2. Fox 070
                  +2
                  29 July 2012 19: 58
                  Quote: smile
                  .. Colleagues, I declare that I respect Jews, both ordinary and as a nation


                  I think that after watching this video you will change your mind.

                  A short course in Judaism. >>
                  1. +4
                    29 July 2012 20: 35
                    Fox 070 (7
                    Colleague, I just like your comments too - + mine! ..... I just don't like the Nazi methods of Israel, which uses them with the shyness of Nazi Germany ....... but I will also consistently defend my position - all nationalities are equal ......... if one of them begins to raise its tail .... then, of course. the tail should be chopped off ... but leave it. for God's sake, the rest of the Jews, the inhabitants .... on x.ra? Banshee = don't hit me otherwise I can't!
                    1. Fox 070
                      +5
                      29 July 2012 21: 04
                      Quote: smile
                      I will also consistently defend my position

                      I only welcome your approach and I just want to tell you that Jews and Jews are not the same thing. Try it and you will begin to separate these two concepts and everything will fall into place.
                3. bachast
                  +1
                  29 July 2012 20: 51
                  C'mon, don’t run into ours too much
                  I’m a Soviet child who was born and raised in the USSR since the age of 14 I worked as a groom during the holidays, so as not to be a burden to Mom and brothers and sisters. I was drafted into the army from a stoker, after which I served for several years in the SA, I studied, and then went to RA. I fought, I have two wounds and a bunch of diagnoses, the most innocuous of the prostatitis area .... And you tell me "ours"? Yes, I really am not on the way with yours. and anyone here would have thought when they met. Will they shake his hand
            2. Fox 070
              +2
              29 July 2012 18: 49
              Quote: smile
              .well tell me that with this ordinary Jew who lives in Israel?

              There is no doubt that the world economy (and including politics) is ruled by two clans - the Rockefellers and the Rothschilds, and they sneeze deeply on the fate of ordinary Jews, whom they use as cannon fodder. They are only interested in profit and power at any cost (and they are interested in power only from the standpoint of protecting their capital).
              I believe that it was the Jews who came out of the "persecuted" state and created these very clans. Ask who financed the Crusades and I bet you will be discouraged by the answer.

              Quote: smile
              If you look for the guilty of inciting 2MB and the next campaign of Europeans to visit us, then there will be many guilty, and not all of them are Jews ....
              1. +2
                29 July 2012 20: 06
                Fox 070
                As for the penultimate statement, it won’t be discouraging ... the truth is, what is there to be discouraged about? .... but I was bukhlyel mainly because. that because of this ..... so to speak, the world elite .... we start to yell at all the Jews .... what do they have to do with it? when we start to write off all dogs on them, we achieve the following - these ... who are from above, rassusolivat about the unfinished Holocaust, and ordinary Jews are indignant and say - oh you so ?! then we - so!. and that, I would also act ... and the soul rushed to paradise ......... you, of course, +, but ............. ....... look at these Jews .... some of them are subject to appropriate propaganda. part - no ..... why should everyone be credited with enemies? If there are allies to hell .....?
                1. Fox 070
                  +3
                  29 July 2012 20: 33
                  Quote: smile
                  ? when we start to write off all the dogs on them, we achieve the following - these ... who are from above, desalinate about the unfinished Holocaust, and ordinary Jews are indignant and say - oh so ?! then we - so!. and that, I would also act ... and the soul rushed to paradise ..


                  In Paris, a Jew was arrested in connection with belonging to the arson of his own synagogue in which he worked. - In order to wage a war against everyone, you need to pretend that you are attacked first, although no one needs you in FIG. Just in California, a Jewish college teacher was found guilty for disfiguring her car and blaming anti-Semites. - There is no anti-Semitism in the world! - It is a fact! And if it does not exist, then you have to create it yourself. "Don't expect mercy from nature." No terrorist attacks - let's do it, they have a creative approach:
                  http://sg.news.yahoo.com/040830/1/3msgs.html
                  1. +6
                    29 July 2012 21: 23
                    Fox 070
                    they hacked this link of yours .... perhaps, and most likely, it was justified - until now you wrote very competent comments ..... but, going round, I’ll say the following - not all Germans are fascists and not all wolves -0 pi -races ...... well, damn it. it’s a sin to enlist all Jews as enemies!
                    I repeat, I already wrote this, .... I'm on a national basis myself - God knows who .... a quarter is a Pole, a quarter is a Ukrainian, half is Vainakh .... can I not say who?
                    From three years old he lived in Klaipeda, was brought up as a Russian ... military family ....
                    at the age of 6, I had a breakdown of self-consciousness - I, who had just bought a tricycle, (I was -6) was attacked by two Lithuanians of 4th graders ... they quickly explained to me that I was the last bastard and dumped me, along with the great one on one side .. .. from a lying position, I threw in their direction the recently found padlock I liked ..... and hit the head of one of the bearers of democratic values ​​... you will laugh - hit!
                    After a couple of hours, the mothers of these guys came to my parents ... I recall - four years older than me! .... in general. it turned out. that I attacked them out of nationalist motives ........ I was deprived of partying for a week, despite the grandfather's throat - they say, well done, well done, grandson .... and then everything became interesting - a community of Russian children from two military five-story buildings began to come to me (the first floor, no one prevented me from communicating from the window) and reported that the Russian children had carried out a punitive operation on the territory of the Railway houses (my street was Ludo Giro, military houses Igulos). . so that lababs would not beat our children more and remember - they beat them - they would answer ... there were three times less of ours, but this is not the ratio. in which the Lithuanians enter into a fight ... there, every 15 times then yes ..... but not otherwise ...... very funny .... in short - ours won ... and this is 1977 .. .
                    from this story I made the following conclusions - 1. each person has a nationality.
                    2.I-Russian
                    3.Russian - these are. whom they mostly beat together, because they can’t do otherwise, and we may well be able to crush them even if we are less and we are less ..... but we have the right to it only then when they really get us ... .and adults shouldn’t know about it, otherwise they’ll puff!
                    4. And when I was 6 years old I became proud - yes - I am so! ....
                    Here is such a story .... there is no Jewish blood in me ..... at all, but if it were, would it influence me a lot? I do not believe! And what do you think?
                    1. Ruslan
                      +1
                      29 July 2012 21: 32
                      Quote: smile
                      Here is such a story .... there is no Jewish blood in me ..... at all, but if it were, would it influence me a lot? I do not believe! And what do you think?
                      Blood has nothing to do with simple human values ​​and, above all, equality and not Aryanism or God's chosen people
                      1. 0
                        29 July 2012 23: 11
                        Ruslan (
                        So that’s the whole point, what difference does it make who crushes people? hiding behind no matter what ..... try to say what you said among normal Jews ... you will be approved, if the girls kiss you ........ and I believe that I have every right to the status of Russian. ...;)))))) would be a Jew, my mood would not have changed ....
                    2. Fox 070
                      +1
                      29 July 2012 21: 53
                      Quote: smile
                      .to me there is no Jewish blood ..... at all, but if it were, would it influence me a lot? I do not believe! And what do you think?

                      I do not think that the chemical composition of Jewish blood is fundamentally different from the chemical composition of any other blood. It's all about ideology and Jewish education. I am trying to discover exactly this axiom: not every Jew is a Jew and a Zionist. I will first take off my hat to a Jewish veteran of WWII, but against a Jew, a Zionist who is trying to compare my people with cattle and trample his statehood, I will fight to the death.
                      1. 0
                        29 July 2012 22: 54
                        Fox 070 (7
                        Yes, I agree .... with almost everything that you wrote ....... And the biochemical composition of the Semitic-Hamitic blood worries me a little, at the same time disappointed the Jews who created ethnic weapons ...... the genotype turned out to be ... ..... identical ...
                        I agree with all your comments regarding the Zionist Jew. by the way, it’s sometimes funny to read the Zionist statements that this movement is just the movement of those who return ..... this is all true ....
                        but not all Jews are like that, and you can’t hang out - if there is no water in the tap .... etc.!
              2. +2
                29 July 2012 20: 42
                Fox 070,
                I have already written many times, maybe those Jews who live in the states have an influence on the peace order, Israel itself, in fact a poor country, surviving due to crazy taxes and prices, here on the site they said that cars in Russia are expensive because of customs clearance, look at what cars in Israel. I have a Renault Megan2 of 2006 of a simple configuration without skin, zhps, the simplest air conditioning, it cost 40 thousand dollars, you have a full mincemeat in Russia, but the car cost 25 pieces
      2. bachast
        -3
        29 July 2012 18: 26
        Hitler is not a Jew!
        1. Ruslan
          +2
          29 July 2012 18: 56
          Quote: bachast
          Hitler is not a Jew!

          http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LjZv5fN6dr8&skipcontrinter=1&bpctr=1343575535&ski
          pcontrinter = 1
          look at interesting facts on the Nazi top link with two parts copy and paste
          1. bachast
            0
            29 July 2012 19: 02
            In the same place type "Putin is a Jew" and you will also see a lot of interesting things. And not only about nationality.
            1. Ruslan
              +1
              29 July 2012 19: 06
              Quote: bachast
              In the same place type "Putin is a Jew" and you will also see a lot of interesting things. And not only about nationality.
              The stupid answer of a stupid Jew - at least read about Eichmann (the main person responsible for the final solution of the Jewish question) how before he died he accepted Judaism and circumcision
              1. bachast
                -1
                29 July 2012 19: 16
                Don't be nervous! You still crawl there ... There are many interesting things. And that the patriarch is a homosexual and about Putin's betrayal, a lot of things, and even with seemingly "facts." People who are respected here say ...
                1. Ruslan
                  -1
                  29 July 2012 19: 24
                  Quote: bachast
                  Don't be nervous! You still crawl there ... There are many interesting things. And that the patriarch is a homosexual and about Putin's betrayal, a lot of things, and even with seemingly "facts." People who are respected here say ...
                  Do not come up with dull strokes, but open neutral sources and read Eichmann’s story
                  1. bachast
                    -3
                    29 July 2012 20: 23
                    This is not an excuse - it’s the same for you ... your sources are steaming young people. I had enough of your knowledge of the Talmud
                    (cite sources from yu tuba))
                2. Fox 070
                  0
                  29 July 2012 19: 48
                  Quote: bachast
                  Don't be nervous! You still crawl there ... There are many interesting things. And that the patriarch is a homosexual and about Putin's betrayal, a lot of things, and even with seemingly "facts." People who are respected here say ...


                  We are now discussing the "exploits" of the Jews against the PEOPLE. And when the time comes, we will discuss (and not only) the actions of our "courtiers".
        2. -1
          29 July 2012 20: 08
          bachast
          Yes, Hitler is not a Jew, there is only a quarter of Jewish blood, how important is this? .... if this suits you, do I agree?
          1. bachast
            +1
            29 July 2012 20: 21
            It’s you who repel the quarter and build all this stupid dialogue about the fact that Jews are enemies of the world. I won’t even see a quarter of Jewish blood from Hitler
            1. Ruslan
              +1
              29 July 2012 20: 28
              Quote: bachast
              I won’t even see a quarter of Jewish blood from Hitler
              read about the genetic examination of a direct relative of Shikelgruber and take away.
            2. Nir
              Nir
              +3
              30 July 2012 11: 07
              Quote: bachast
              It’s you who repel the quarter and build all this stupid dialogue about the fact that Jews are enemies of the world. I won’t even see a quarter of Jewish blood from Hitler

              Are you shocked by the fact that your idol is Jewish?
        3. Ruslan
          +5
          29 July 2012 21: 07
          Private bussiness. Karl Adolf Eichmann. Officer of Division IV B 4 (Jewish affairs) of the Security Directorate. Obersturmbanfuhrer. The character is close to the Nordic. Friendly with friends. Appearance ... “Comrades in the SS were amazed how this Jew Eichmann with a pronounced Semitic nose fell into their circle. “The key to the synagogue sticks out in the middle of his faces,” they said, but they were cut off: “Be silent! The order of the Fuhrer! "

          It was Eichmann who was entrusted with the solution of the "Jewish question." In 1937, he met twice with Zionist Favel Polkesh, the commander of the Jewish police in Palestine. It was about interaction for the needs of Jewish emigration.

          Both sides worked with complete understanding. Bargained as in a small town shop. “At the time of the deportation of Jews from Hungary, the vice-president of the Zionist organization, Rudolf Kastner, negotiated with Eichmann on this basis: if Eichmann allowed the departure of 1684 Jews“ useful ”to create the future state of Israel (capitalists, technicians, military, etc.) ), Kastner promised Eichmann to convince 460.000 Hungarian Jews that this was not about deportation to Auschwitz, but about simple relocation. ”

          ... After the war, Eichmann disappeared. However, his name continued to operate in big politics. It was with reference to his words that William Hettle reported at the Nuremberg trials about six million dead Jews .. In 1960, Eichmann was stolen by Mossad intelligence from Argentina and taken to Israel .. “On May 13, 1960, on the day of vengeance, marked by the Jews, Eichmann was hanged. Before the execution, in fulfillment of the convict’s last will, he was allowed to accept Judaism, and Eichmann went circumcised into another world. ”

          The fate of the former fighter against Nazism Gerstein is also surprising. Having served his term in a concentration camp, he joined the SS and rose to the rank of Obersturmfuhrer. At the same time, Gernstein informed Sweden and Switzerland that he was personally a supplier of toxic gas for the extermination of Jews. His report talked about ten million victims. He transmitted such information to the Vatican too. In Berlin, on this score, he “frankly” with hundreds of even unfamiliar people.

          “It is absolutely impossible,” writes researcher H. Kardel, “that in the then situation of universal surveillance, a person would tell“ hundreds of people ”a secret from secrets without such a task ... The goal was to spread European Jews by spreading terrible rumors ...“ Since the task of intimidation was set, that, according to Kardel, self-promotion of Eichmann causes doubts. "It is still not clear what in millions of figures Eichmann was true, and what - propaganda of horrors." As for Gerstein, sometimes he even talked about 25 million Jews killed ... In the summer of 1945 it became known: this provocateur was found dead in a cell in a Paris prison. However, none of his relatives saw either a corpse or his grave.

          What is all this talking about? Later, in 1950, one of the Israeli ideologists Jonah Kosoy explained: “We, the Zionists, are now entrusted with an ancient duty to ceaselessly hold our hair on end of the whole Jewish people, not to give them any rest or time, to keep them on the edge of the abyss all the time "showing danger to him ... for then where do we get the hundreds of thousands of Jews needed to build our state?" Eichmann, Gerstein and others helped to solve this problem perfectly...

          PS The material is taken from the book of Yuri Vorobyevsky “Third Act. Third Reich and Third Rome. If the author had a lie, the Jewish lobi would have been condemned for this, they will allocate mil every year. dollars.
          1. +1
            29 July 2012 21: 15
            Ruslan,
            what do you want to prove now? Well, in every nation there are traitors and ki, and among Jews there is also what? Well, let's talk about SS Galicia’s division, there we’ll talk about thousands of such kov, And my grandfathers, one Jew, another Ukrainian fought, well, the Jew died. And that he is also under the care of the Rockefeller was there?
            1. Ruslan
              +4
              29 July 2012 21: 22
              I answer to someone who does not believe that half of the Nazi elite are Jewish-henchmen of the Jewish banking mafia and this is a fact that you need to gain courage and admit. This has nothing to do with the Jewish people except that the mafia floor is now in power and leads the Jews to the next Holocaust
              1. Indigo
                +2
                30 July 2012 10: 13
                .. I don’t write anymore, because already for this topic I have a warning ..
        4. Nir
          Nir
          +2
          30 July 2012 11: 06
          Quote: bachast
          Hitler is not a Jew!

          Yes, he is an Arab and also a Kurd and a little Tajik wink Yes, on the face of this Aryan, look at the spilled buzz ...
    2. +2
      29 July 2012 20: 29
      smile,
      Volodya, good evening, buddy. Have you noticed that none of the harshly expressed, all Jews "under the comb" does not scratch? The guys perfectly share the concepts of JEWISH PEOPLE and ISRAELI POLITICS!
      1. Ruslan
        +5
        29 July 2012 20: 36
        Quote: esaul
        Volodya, good evening, buddy. Have you noticed that none of the harshly expressed, all Jews "under the comb" does not scratch? The guys perfectly share the concepts of JEWISH PEOPLE and ISRAELI POLITICS!
        I agree I will add only escho religious extremists. And in general what we argue about. There is extremism in Judaism - yes there is. Whether the majority of Jewish society supports him is not, of course. Is there a Jewish banking mafia, yes there is. Whether the Jewish mafia will bring good to the Jewish people is not. Zionism is comparable to fascism - yes. Will he bring good to the Jews - no.
  21. 0
    29 July 2012 15: 07
    I don’t know if the massacres of heresies can be called the Holocaust, but the fascists in a short time created lists of the population to be destroyed. The lists included: Jews, owl families. workers, communists, Komsomol members, gypsies.
    Near each city there were places of massacre of owls. citizens. Only in the USSR, I think millions of Jews were killed.
    1. Ruslan
      +2
      29 July 2012 19: 33
      Quote: d.gksueyjd
      I don’t know if the massacres of heresies can be called the Holocaust, but the fascists in a short time created lists of the population to be destroyed. The lists included: Jews, owl families. workers, communists, Komsomol members, gypsies.
      Near each city there were places of massacre of owls. citizens. Only in the USSR, I think millions of Jews were killed.
      The biggest thing the Jewish elite fears is a detailed analysis of the Holocaust process - it is easier for them to deny it. Because what was done to the Jews of the USSR (no one kept them in the camps and didn’t feed them in wartime but simply drove them like cattle and buried them in pits), and if I went through the graves I was personally on several of them, then there’s no sign . Why is that? Yes, because Soviet Jews abandoned Zionism and supported the idea of ​​communism and a socially just society — they were punished for that.
  22. foxhaund31
    +1
    29 July 2012 15: 13
    According to some scholars, if Russia didn’t have World War I, the Civil War and the Great Patriotic War in Russia in the 1th century, about half a billion people would now live in Russia. And no one even stutters about this great tragedy of the Russian people, but they will probably start to shoot for the denial of the Holocaust (supposedly taking place).
    1. bachast
      -2
      29 July 2012 15: 53
      Well, who will start to shoot you? You yourself fly like flies on topics related to Jews, Jews, the Holocaust. Well, there haven't been any discussions on the site for a long time, you threw a bone. And think who needs this?
      And no one even stutters about this great tragedy of the Russian people
      "Do you naively believe that besides us someone will be worried? Are you now trying to put pressure on the world community for pity? These sharks? Wake up !!! If we ourselves continue to watch how schoolchildren passing exams often do not know about the facts of the Second World War, and reap what you blame today on anyone but not yourself
      1. foxhaund31
        +2
        29 July 2012 18: 41
        bachast, it’s not the Jews, but the Hasidim, this same reactionary sect that not only you and me, they don’t consider half the Jews as people. They want to arrange a world war, and even more so to spit the Holocaust. As for schoolchildren, you’re right noticed, but only history books are printed with Soros money. Television-Ernsts, Posners, Solovyovs, Svanidze, Shakhnazarovs, Urgants, etc. RAS department of historiography - little white, black, green and another 30 professors of the same nationality.
        1. bachast
          0
          29 July 2012 19: 11
          Why, then, do we need the president, who is praised here every day? Here, every day we read about the pride of being Russian-strong, smart, greatest on the planet, but we can’t cope with the Jews? What kind of self-intimidation? Everything is in order in our country - Everyone cries, the economy is developing, but there is not even money for textbooks? Are Soloviev and Urgant bad people? For me not. Give an example, where do they corrupt society and youth? Shakhnazarov? Ernst?
    2. Nir
      Nir
      -3
      30 July 2012 11: 09
      Quote: foxhaund31
      According to some scholars, if Russia didn’t have World War I, the Civil War and the Great Patriotic War in Russia in the 1th century, about half a billion people would now live in Russia.

      It can take less thump, and not complain about world wars.
  23. Stary oper
    +7
    29 July 2012 15: 55
    There are many comments, it is nice to see that among them there are many based on concrete facts about the losses of the peoples of the USSR. Why is the topic of the Holocaust so worried? In my opinion, many are annoyed by the fact that the Jews managed to make a gesheft on their tragedy. Neither Belarus, nor Russia, nor Ukraine are still demanding compensation from Germany. Yes, the USSR received reparations as a result of the war from Germany, but they did not cover the material losses that the country suffered. But the Jews still receive. Including "greyhound puppies" (the same submarines, some of which are on account of the "historical duty"). Therefore, it was necessary to introduce a law on responsibility for denying the Holocaust in order to pay further. This is generally a unique situation when the law prohibits doubting a historical fact.
    Then, no one wondered why Hitler began to prepare the Germans for the destruction of other "subhumans" using the Jews? But this is a very difficult question. And not only and not so much the lack of statehood among the Jews was the reason. After all, after the defeat in the First World War against the background of terrible poverty and hyperinflation in Germany, it was the Jews who began to make fortunes on the grief of people, when they bought family heirlooms, the will of art, and so on for a piece of bread ... Moreover, while retaining all the deeds and demanding much that was taken from them in the days of Nazism back. The question may arise, why did the Jews behave this way? Here, in my opinion, the main reason is that according to their religion, they are the people "chosen by God" on all others the laws of morality do not apply. Therefore, you can do gesheft on the mountain of others. And this is not in vain. Look, in almost all countries where Jews lived en masse, pogroms always broke out. All can not be bad, but they are only victims ...
    In general, I recommend Solzhenitsyn's book "200 Years Together" to everyone interested in this issue. A very deep and unbiased look at the problem of Jewry in Russia.
    1. bachast
      -4
      29 July 2012 16: 01
      Here with the mention of Solzhenitsyn in vain you are here))
      1. Stary oper
        +4
        29 July 2012 16: 27
        Have you read his book and disagree with his point of view? Or are you saying that he is supposedly a Jew himself? I never say that all people of one or another nationality are such or such. Among all there are all kinds. But there is such a thing as national traits. So to speak, the common denominator
        1. Ruslan
          +2
          29 July 2012 16: 49
          Quote: Stary oper
          Have you read his book and disagree with his point of view? Or are you saying that he is supposedly a Jew himself? I never say that all people of one or another nationality are such or such. Among all there are all kinds. But there is such a thing as national traits. So to speak, the common denominator
          Jewish current extremism in extreme forms (according to the Talmud - the best of the goys worthy of death) elevated to the rank of religion, I generally keep silent about the national ideology of Zionism - this is the reason for the moral degradation of Jewish society
          1. bachast
            -1
            29 July 2012 18: 31
            Talmud - the best of the goyim worthy of death

            Where did you read this?
            1. Ruslan
              +3
              29 July 2012 18: 45
              Quote: bachast
              Where did you read this?

              “Kill the best of the goyim.” (Talmud, Abod. Zar. 26b).
              "Anyone who sheds the blood of a non-Jew (goy), thereby brings a gracious sacrifice to God." (Talmud, Iyalkwith Simeoni)
              1. bachast
                -3
                29 July 2012 18: 57
                Why are you kidding? This is not in the Talmud. Did you find it on the Internet? You go to the synagogue, chat with the rabbi, maybe you can help translate the right points of interest.
                1. Ruslan
                  +3
                  29 July 2012 19: 10
                  Quote: bachast
                  translate correctly

                  Do you correctly notice that sometimes they translate as they please, but this is the literal meaning, for the quote is verbatim pick up the Talmud, find the indicated item and see for yourself. Well, it’s still interesting how these quotes can be interpreted.
                  Gentiles prefer to have sex with cows. (Abodah Zarah 22a-22c) Talmud, Abodah Zarah. (1935). Soncino Edition. 22a-b.

                  119. When an adult man has sexual intercourse with a little girl, it’s nothing, because when the girl is less than three years old, it’s as if someone sticks a finger in the eye, tears come to the eyes ... but vision returns, and innocence returns to a little girl who is less than three years old. (Catbot 11 c.) Talmudic prayer, p. 617. Talmud. (1936).

                  120. A virgin at the age of three years and one day can be acquired as a wife by KOITUS (Sanhedrin 55c and 69a-69c) Talmud. (1935). Sanhedrin. 69b. p.469. and (Yevamot 57c, 58a, 60c) Talmud. (1936). Yebamoth. Soncino Edition. 57b. p.386 2

                  121. "The marriages of Akum have no binding force, that is, their cohabitation is the same as the mating of horses" (Iore dea, 269: 1).

                  122. "The copulation of a goy is the same as the copulation of cattle" (addition to Sanhedrin, 74, b).
                  1. Indigo
                    +1
                    30 July 2012 10: 16
                    Quote: Ruslan
                    121. "The marriages of Akum have no binding force, that is, their cohabitation is the same as the mating of horses" (Iore dea, 269: 1).

                    - in, and for this the admin set a warning for me ..
                2. -2
                  29 July 2012 21: 01
                  bachast,
                  one hundred percent, I had a neighbor (Russian-speaking), I found out that he was a rabbi only last week when he moved to a new apartment, I asked him about the Talmud (to the article, Ruslan’s expression, but I don’t remember which one) so the translation is wrong stupidly translate according to words, it's like in English the word combination gives a different meaning
                  1. Ruslan
                    +4
                    29 July 2012 21: 15
                    Quote: igor67
                    then percent, I had a neighbor (Russian-speaking), I learned that he was a rabbi only last week when he moved out to a new apartment, I asked him about the Talmud (to the article, Ruslan’s expression, but I don’t remember which one) so the translation is wrong stupidly translate according to words, it's like in English the word combination gives a different meaning
                    BUT THERE ISN’T ANYTHING OFFICIAL rebuttal by the rabbis or a new official interpretation - why not to lose face in front of those whom they teach, but only unofficial statements about the erroneous translation
          2. Stary oper
            +3
            29 July 2012 19: 13
            Ruslan
            I want to note this ... In my opinion, any ideology, by definition, drives a person into a certain framework of thinking and behavior. Actually for this they exist. Including all religions.
            1. Ruslan
              +5
              29 July 2012 19: 22
              Quote: Stary oper
              Ruslan
              I want to note this ... In my opinion, any ideology, by definition, drives a person into a certain framework of thinking and behavior. Actually for this they exist. Including all religions.
              I agree that the 10 commandments in Christianity and Islam apply to everyone (the rabbis teach that the 10 commandments of Moses apply only to Jews and the goys have different rules) and there is no call in the gospel to kill or rob the goyim - this is an abomination put into the heads of Jews from infancy . Ideology is temporary, and religion is the soul of a people that was formed many centuries ago, and this is serious because the soul accepts whatever it is.
              1. -1
                29 July 2012 19: 35
                Ruslan,
                I read your dear nonsense for a long time, and about the 10 commandments, did you finish shawh ishiva? such knowledge in the Talmud. I’ve been here for 12 years in Israel who haven’t found a good knowledge of the Talmud, ishivniki teach the Talmud, which Israel does not particularly recognize, do not serve in the army, and you constantly mix God with the righteous in your comments. the commandments, in Judaism there are 10 commandments, Christians considered 613 basic ones. Here I am a goy and a wife, and children too, what are my other rules? Just write the Jews I can’t see,
                1. Ruslan
                  0
                  29 July 2012 19: 42
                  [quote = igor67] I read your dear nonsense for a long time, and about the 10 commandments, did you finish the shishiva? such knowledge in the Talmud. I’ve been here for 12 years in Israel who haven’t found a good knowledge of the Talmud, ishivniki teach the Talmud, which Israel does not particularly recognize, do not serve in the army, and you constantly mix God with the righteous in your comments. There are 10 commandments in Judaism, Christians counted 613 basic ones. Are I a goy and a wife, and children too, what are my other rules? Just write the Jews I won’t see and all [/ quote You write nonsense - in order to open the Talmud and find the indicated Ivshu’s paragraph doesn’t need to be completed. You can also take and read the old testament (Leviticus book). It tells in detail how the Jews conquered the lands by genocide, killing women and children of the gentiles and their god - Satan ordered that this be done. Also their god - Satan orders them to live on a percentage so look and read
                  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z0-YHGN9nY0&feature=endscreen&NR=1
                2. Ruslan
                  +2
                  29 July 2012 19: 44
                  Quote: igor67
                  I read your dear nonsense for a long time, and about the 10 commandments, did you finish shawh ishiva? such knowledge in the Talmud. I’ve been here for 12 years in Israel who haven’t found a good knowledge of the Talmud, ishivniki teach the Talmud, which Israel does not particularly recognize, do not serve in the army, and you constantly mix God with the righteous in your comments. commandments, in Judaism there are 10 commandments, Christians counted 613 basic ones. Here I am a goy and a wife, and children too, what are my other rules? Just write the Jews I can’t see and that's it
                  You write nonsense - in order to open the Talmud and find the indicated item, you don’t need to finish and you can also take and read the old testament (Leviticus book) there it is described in detail how the Jews conquered the lands by genocide by killing women and children of the gentiles and their god Satan ordered to do this. Also their god - Satan orders them to live on a percentage so look and read
                  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z0-YHGN9nY0&feature=endscreen&NR=1
                  1. 0
                    29 July 2012 19: 51
                    Ruslan,
                    to fix me with your head with all sorts of nonsense, your one expression is: (Also their god - Satan orders), damn God is one for three religions, according to Christianity Jesus the Son of God, and you call him ..... I do not want to blaspheme.
                    1. Ruslan
                      0
                      29 July 2012 20: 13
                      Quote: igor67
                      on the fic I boggle my head with all sorts of nonsense
                      To comment, first read and not
                      Quote: igor67
                      on the fic to me to bury my head with all sorts of nonsense,
                      1. 0
                        29 July 2012 20: 18
                        Ruslan,
                        it’s necessary to read, and to study in order to understand, scammers have been studying the Talmud for decades, and you have picked up phrases and consider yourself an expert in religion, you’d better discuss tanks and planes, but don’t have to go into religious jungle, people howl because of this, because of misunderstanding
                      2. Ruslan
                        +2
                        29 July 2012 20: 31
                        Quote: igor67
                        it’s necessary to read, and to study in order to understand, scammers have been studying the Talmud for decades, and you have picked up phrases and consider yourself an expert in religion, you’d better discuss tanks and planes, but don’t have to go into religious jungle, people howl because of this, because of misunderstanding
                        remember the story - the main precept of the rabbis in the past - a goy who studies the Talmud is worthy of death, but with the development of the media, it became difficult to hide an abomination and then a new trick was invented - THIS INTERVIEW.
                      3. 0
                        29 July 2012 20: 48
                        Quote: Ruslan
                        worthy of death goy studying Talmud

                        in fact, they (ultra orthodox) really do not like it when non-Jews accept giyur to become a Jewish Jew, you should understand here (In the East), by and large, they don’t understand what nationality, creed is: a Jew is a Muslim or a Christian, so in short.
                      4. Fox 070
                        0
                        29 July 2012 21: 36
                        Quote: igor67
                        in fact, they (ultra orthodox) really don’t like when non-Jews accept giyur,

                        They do not like, it is put it mildly:
                        «
                        The goy who studies the Talmud and the Jew who introduces him to the Talmud deserve to die. A Jew who writes a translation from the Talmud or from the writings of the rabbis is considered a traitor and is secretly killed. ” (Sanhedrin 59 a, Schaar Teschub 78 b).

                        If there is nothing to hide, then why such extreme measures ???
                      5. 0
                        29 July 2012 21: 42
                        Fox 070,
                        Quote: Fox 070
                        If there is nothing to hide, then why such extreme measures ???

                        Damn, but where do I know? how many centuries? And I am only 45, here is a simple example: singer Madonna, she comes to our city every year to study, maybe she likes it?
                    2. Fox 070
                      +2
                      29 July 2012 20: 20
                      Quote: igor67
                      to fix me with your head with all sorts of nonsense, your one expression is: (Also their god - Satan orders), damn God is one for three religions, according to Christianity Jesus the Son of God, and you call him ..... I do not want to blaspheme.



                      From John
                      Chapter 8.

                      41You are doing the work of your father. To this they said to him: we are not born of fornication; we have one Father, God.

                      42 Jesus said to them: if God were your Father, you would love me, because I came from God and came; for I have not come of Myself, but He sent Me.

                      43 Why do you not understand My speech? Because you cannot hear My word.

                      44 Your father is the devil; and you want to fulfill the lusts of your father. He was a murderer from the beginning and did not stand in the truth, for there is no truth in him. When he speaks a lie, he speaks his own, for he is a liar and the father of lies.

                      45And as I say the truth, you do not believe Me.

                      46 Which of you convicts me of unrighteousness? If I say the truth, why do you not believe Me?

                      47 Someone from God listens to the words of God. You are therefore not listening because you are not of God.

                      48The Jews answered and said to him, Do we not say the truth that you are a Samaritan and that there is a demon in you?

                      49 Jesus answered: There is no demon in me; but I honor my Father, and you dishonor me.

                      50 However, I am not seeking My glory: there is a Seeker and Judge.
                      1. +1
                        29 July 2012 20: 31
                        Fox 070,
                        I am a secular man, but I know why Jews deny the divinity of Jesus, according to Judaism in Hebrew God is written in masculine gender but with a feminine ending, that is, He created a man in his own image and likeness, without the participation of a woman, therefore he (Jesus) cannot actually be by the son of God (according to Judaism) everything, and then religious jungle, was written by all and sundry.
                  2. bachast
                    -1
                    29 July 2012 20: 17
                    Ruslan do you make a comedy for whom?
                    in order to open the Talmud and find the indicated item, I don’t need to finish
                    you don’t even understand what you are writing, everything else is drunk nonsense
                    1. Ruslan
                      +1
                      29 July 2012 20: 20
                      Quote: bachast
                      you don’t even understand what you are writing, everything else is drunk nonsense
                      What is the problem in opening the Talmud and Shulhan Arukh or in finding the right item and reading it, reading it? Do not be afraid to find and read, and when you have questions - why is it still written here that the local rabbi will justify this abomination. At one time, I asked priests why there wasn’t a kill point in the 10 basic commandments of Moses, but at the same time the book of numbers and Leviticus tells how God ordered the killing of women and children when they conquered the promised land. Priests and rabbis officially interpret this moment that the 10 commandments apply to Jews.
                      1. bachast
                        -2
                        29 July 2012 20: 30
                        Do not be lazy, take the phone and take a photo of the holy book, the page where you quote these quotes from ??? Download here please
                      2. Ruslan
                        +1
                        29 July 2012 20: 40
                        Quote: bachast
                        Do not be lazy
                        Do not be lazy find yourself I found my time and looked. To the article about the old testament, I threw off the video there the pages are shown.
                      3. bachast
                        -2
                        29 July 2012 20: 58
                        I repeat, YOU ARE LIES .... you can find (???) (met translation) that there is a rarity
                        . As for the original in Hebrew, and even with a bunch of dialects that are not just ordinary Jews, but not all rabbis, Judaism adherents are simply absurd. So what did you read? Where?
                      4. Ruslan
                        +2
                        30 July 2012 09: 01
                        Quote: bachast
                        rarity
                        It is not a rarity in today's technology world to find a Talmud with a translation - the problem is different, for example, when they transferred to the Russian shulchan Arukh, they specially cut out a number of provisions about goyim in order not to expose themselves to readers.
                    2. Fox 070
                      +1
                      29 July 2012 20: 29
                      Quote: bachast
                      you don’t even understand what you are writing, everything else is drunk nonsense

                      Bachast, do not turn the argument into srach.
                      1. bachast
                        -4
                        29 July 2012 20: 33
                        bully Dispute? I beg you ....
                      2. Nir
                        Nir
                        -1
                        30 July 2012 11: 18
                        Quote: bachast
                        Dispute? I beg you ....

                        Zhuden srach has long been begun and is only continuing.
              2. Stary oper
                +4
                29 July 2012 19: 43
                Ruslan.
                Both in the history of Christianity and in the history of Islam there are also many dark pages. As for Judaism, this religion was a kind of core that allowed the Jews not to assimilate. I agree with you that, in essence, Judaism is most intolerant of other nations. It seems to me that this is precisely the reason for many of the tragedies of the Jewish people.
                1. Ruslan
                  +3
                  29 July 2012 19: 47
                  Quote: Stary oper
                  It seems to me that this is precisely the reason for many of the tragedies of the Jewish people.
                  Wow, I respect those Jews who found the courage to admit this and those who refused Zionism and tried to build a socially just society for all.
                  1. Stary oper
                    +1
                    29 July 2012 21: 06
                    Ruslan
                    I want to disappoint you ... :) Not a Jew ... :)
        2. bachast
          -5
          29 July 2012 17: 01
          Just here on the site the mention of Solzhenitsyn causes a negative reaction.
          1. Stary oper
            +1
            29 July 2012 18: 14
            bachast.
            I somehow do not focus on someone’s reaction when expressing my point of view. :)
            1. bachast
              -4
              29 July 2012 18: 18
              This is a good feature. Continue. I read with interest.
    2. +3
      29 July 2012 19: 14
      You are completely right, Trotsky, Kamenev, etc. are all Jews. Trotsky virtually destroyed the Cossacks
      1. 0
        29 July 2012 19: 58
        Quote: bachast
        Just here on the site the mention of Solzhenitsyn causes a negative reaction.


        Oh yeah. no matter how in favor this gentleman. There is an opinion that deservedly. An article with discussions on this topic should remain in the archive.
      2. Nir
        Nir
        -2
        30 July 2012 11: 19
        Quote: d.gksueyjd
        Trotsky virtually destroyed the Cossacks

        And he ate all Cossack babies personally without leaving the cash desk wink
  24. bachast
    0
    29 July 2012 15: 55
    And also the Jews solder everyone, they are to blame .. savor ...
    1. Stary oper
      +2
      29 July 2012 16: 30
      Well, if you follow your irony, then we can say that they are all Einsteins. :) And this is also not the whole truth, is it?
      1. Ruff
        +3
        29 July 2012 17: 21
        Stary oper,
        Everyone has their own truth! Like a wife. And everyone sleeps her as he wants.
        1. Stary oper
          +2
          29 July 2012 18: 20
          Ruff.
          I think the truth is one. Everyone has their own view on her ... :)
        2. +2
          29 July 2012 18: 28
          Yes, but he doesn’t show or tell everyone what he does to her.
    2. Fox 070
      +2
      29 July 2012 18: 56
      Quote: bachast
      the Jews solder everyone

      I agree,
      Put the youth down - and you will defeat the nation! This is our motto. We deprive your society of youth, corrupting it with sex, rock, violence, alcohol smoking, drugs, that is, depriving your society of the future. We will hit the family, destroying it, reduce childbearing.

      MENAKHEM SHNEERSON - "OUR PLANS REGARDING THE SLAVS"


      http://radosvet.net/13691-menahem-shneerson-nashi-plany-otnositelno-slavyan.html
  25. CARBON
    -3
    29 July 2012 22: 35
    For Jews, it’s not Jews who are to blame for everything, for Jews who are not Jews. The people have a lot of free time to read any nonsense and then discuss. It is necessary to turn off the lights around the country at 9 in the evening, and even to work hard at work to force)
  26. 0
    30 July 2012 04: 54
    Quote: esaul
    I beg the site administration to draw attention to this issue and conduct a kind of vote with the further transfer of data to interested authorities!

    Thank Yesaul I did something stupid and didn’t even guess about asking our moderators about the same. I’ll try an article or something to write about it ... We’ll just have more talented writers for me, I’m all waiting for this question to concern them too
  27. Nir
    Nir
    -2
    30 July 2012 11: 31
    Or maybe Gorbachev was also a Jew, or maybe Yeltsin? What are you all taking off your sore head for a healthy one? Forever you have someone but not you yourself to blame. You alone are white and fluffy. They themselves all profiled three generations ahead, and all Jews and the Holocaust interfere with them.
  28. 0
    30 July 2012 15: 32
    To become a convinced anti-Semite, one must live in Israel to the status of Arabs. This is a Semitic group. wassat
  29. 0
    30 July 2012 17: 53
    even if 6 millions of Jews died in the Holocaust, then this pales in comparison with the deaths of 18 millions of Eastern Slavs !!! (27 million, - losses of the USSR - 8 million killed at the front - 1 million (?) Jews in the USSR) But for some reason EVERYTHING IS SILENT !!! And this figure is THREE TIMES MORE than the losses of the Jews in World War II !!!
    1. 0
      30 July 2012 18: 49
      nnz226,
      Quote: nnz226
      killed at the front - 1 million (?) Jews in the USSR)

      and what confuses in this phrase, unlike the European Jews who were sitting on grandmothers, and they were killed like rabbits in the camps, ours fought. Yes, my grandfather, a Jew, died, his brother died, under Stalingrad, and many more from his family died in the ranks of the Red Army, and those old people who remained were shot.
  30. Patriot
    -1
    30 July 2012 17: 58
    Comrades.

    As it has already become apparent, the Jews, speculating in the Holocausts, have taken over the whole world.

    Congratulations. We live in the Jewish age. And, in almost all countries of the world, Jews are either the main rulers or the real forces that are behind the local national leaders.
  31. CARBON
    +1
    30 July 2012 22: 04
    Minus as much as you want - nonsense involved in pathological anti-Semitism!