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FSB prevented an armed attack on a school in Krasnoyarsk

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FSB prevented an armed attack on a school in Krasnoyarsk

Another armed attack on educational institutions prepared by minors was prevented in Krasnoyarsk. According to the FSB TsOS TsOS, a 14-year-old teenager preparing an armed attack on one of the schools was detained in the city.


According to the report, FSB officers established and detained a minor resident of Krasnoyarsk preparing an armed attack on the school. During the search, a sawn-off shotgun of the hunting rifle and ammunition, a diary with an attack plan, and more were discovered and seized from him.

(...) a resident of the city of Krasnoyarsk, born in 2006, who was preparing an armed attack on the school, was detained. A shotgun of a hunting rifle with ammunition, presumably improvised explosive devices, as well as communications and personal diaries containing information about the planned crime, was seized

- said in a statement.

Details of the prepared attack are not reported, it is known that the teenager planned to arrange shooting at the school on April 19-20. Currently, the case appointed expertise weapons, ammunition and documents seized from the detainee, after which a decision will be made to institute criminal proceedings on this fact.

As previously reported in the FTS DSP, from 2018 to the present, the Federal Security Service has prevented over 50 armed attacks on educational institutions. More than 260 propagandists of extremist ideology, including in the criminal procedure, were suppressed.
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  1. Finches
    Finches April 16 2020 15: 33 New
    12
    The country needs heroes, but ... gives birth ... You can’t say otherwise!
    1. kjhg
      kjhg April 16 2020 16: 11 New
      14
      Quote: Finches
      The country needs heroes, but ... gives birth ... You can’t say otherwise!

      People give birth to the same children as before. But the state has withdrawn from its part of the educational function. This created fertile ground for all kinds of creatures that use children for their own purposes. Parents are struggling with this, but not always and not everyone can fully control the situation.
      1. APASUS
        APASUS April 16 2020 16: 31 New
        +8
        Quote: kjhg
        People give birth to the same children as before. But the state has withdrawn from its part of the educational function.

        The main value now is money, parents plow from morning to evening they now have no time for corny
        1. kjhg
          kjhg April 16 2020 16: 37 New
          +2
          Quote: APASUS
          The main value now is money, parents plow from morning to evening they now have no time for corny

          Correctly. In order to ensure a more or less normal family living standard, parents have to work two jobs. In many families, for most of their lives, children grow up without a father at all, because he is constantly on earnings far from home. Children mainly sit with their grandparents. But now, after the pension robbery, grandparents will not be able to sit with children. Where all this will lead is not difficult to guess.
          1. EwgenyZ
            EwgenyZ April 16 2020 20: 21 New
            +9
            Quote: kjhg
            Quote: APASUS
            The main value now is money, parents plow from morning to evening they now have no time for corny

            Correctly. In order to ensure a more or less normal family living standard, parents have to work two jobs. In many families, for most of their lives, children grow up without a father at all, because he is constantly on earnings far from home. Children mainly sit with their grandparents. But now, after the pension robbery, grandparents will not be able to sit with children. Where all this will lead is not difficult to guess.

            All this is nonsense, if there is a desire, then there will always be time for a child, but there is no desire for ducks and there will be no time. I also plowed from morning to night, but at the same time I found time to chat (on weekends, and in the morning, before work) and go somewhere for a walk and so that I would develop I would give the child all kinds of tasks (to learn the DR of relatives, flags, countries and capitals, dates domestic history, military ranks, books to read, and then retell). And now I find time to call and find out how you are doing, what I’ve done, what I’ve achieved ...
            The one who wants is looking for opportunities, the one who is not looking for reasons. (with)
            1. yustas
              yustas April 17 2020 10: 41 New
              +4
              Eugene, welcome! And absolutely support! If there is a desire, time and strength will be found. But basically the whole people are all spiraling on the state, it must, it is reviewed.
          2. Brodyaga19
            Brodyaga19 April 17 2020 10: 32 New
            +1
            You do not have time, but desire!
        2. Lipchanin
          Lipchanin April 16 2020 17: 10 New
          10
          Quote: APASUS
          The main value now is money, parents plow from morning to evening they now have no time for corny

          Is there no time for a child?
          My mother raised me with my sister alone. She worked at 2 bets and always found time for us.
          And there is no need for tales about the fact that "there is no time for a child, you have to earn a living"
          99% need a new car more prestigious to buy
          1. APASUS
            APASUS April 16 2020 17: 14 New
            +4
            Quote: Lipchanin
            And there is no need for tales about the fact that "there is no time for a child, you have to earn a living"
            99% need a new car more prestigious to buy

            And this too. I just take an example from my life. In the kindergarten they asked me to make a birdhouse. They brought only three, three of them were bought. The teacher said that only three families are engaged in children from 27.
          2. mole
            mole April 16 2020 18: 04 New
            +4
            Quote: Lipchanin
            Quote: APASUS
            The main value now is money, parents plow from morning to evening they now have no time for corny

            Is there no time for a child?
            My mother raised me with my sister alone. She worked at 2 bets and always found time for us.
            And there is no need for tales about the fact that "there is no time for a child, you have to earn a living"
            99% need a new car more prestigious to buy

            My mother also worked for me. But at the same time she added me to the section. Only half an hour at least from the house there were 3 airmodel circles. In the hour of walking - 5. And the streets could be walked calmly. I’m silent about karting, tourism, and basketball. Now pay everywhere. Something like this.
            1. Lipchanin
              Lipchanin April 16 2020 18: 36 New
              +3
              Quote: Mole
              Pay now everywhere

              Not everywhere.
              And therefore it is necessary to blame the upbringing of the child on the state?
              But elementary things like killing and stealing can’t be instilled in a break between work and the Internet?
              1. mole
                mole April 16 2020 19: 28 New
                +4
                I do not agree everywhere. But only if there are free sections, the chances of going downhill are reduced. Because positive suggestion comes not only from parents.
                So what do you prefer as a father: only to educate your child yourself or to educate in the section to do it? It is clear that most likely the second option. But if your salary does not allow you or the location, you live in the outback, then what? You will only have the first option. He’s not bad, but the second is still better?
              2. Shelest2000
                Shelest2000 April 17 2020 08: 52 New
                -1
                .And therefore it is necessary to blame the upbringing of the child on the state?

                Nobody talks about "dumping". It's just that if the state needs smart, competent and adequate citizens, then it will not withdraw itself from the upbringing of these future citizens. The Union needed them - thousands of sports schools, palaces of pioneers with hundreds of hobby groups, hundreds of tourist clubs were built, educational work was carried out in schools. This is in addition to family education.
                And now the state does not need smart and competent people - it’s easier to control fools. The state now needs illiterate consumers.
                1. Lipchanin
                  Lipchanin April 17 2020 10: 52 New
                  -1
                  Quote: Shelest2000
                  And now the state does not need smart and competent people - it’s easier to control fools. The state now needs illiterate consumers.

                  Yes, the state has to do with it ???
                  YOU personally what kind of child is needed ???
                  What do you all blame your problems on someone ??
                  Your child and it depends only on you who he will be
                  We laugh at the orkain that they are looking for others guilty of their problems
                  Your child and his education should be your responsibility.
          3. Aag
            Aag April 16 2020 18: 39 New
            +1
            Lipchanin.
            So the point is that the sacrifice of your mother (in current realities) is the norm (in the old days).
        3. Nyrobsky
          Nyrobsky April 16 2020 17: 33 New
          +7
          Quote: APASUS
          Quote: kjhg
          People give birth to the same children as before. But the state has withdrawn from its part of the educational function.

          The main value now is money, parents plow from morning to evening they now have no time for corny

          "Having experienced everything, we know ourselves,
          What in the days of mental attacks,
          Hearts not occupied by us
          Without delay our enemy will take
          Will take, settling all the same scores,
          He’ll take it, he will sit us
          Hearts! Yes, these are heights,
          Which you can't give! "
          (V. Fedorov)
          Parents plow, children surf the Internet and scoop up all sorts of crap there that foreign uncles post there, carefully building a system to decompose the younger generation of the enemy country. At the same time, we have all sorts of ombudsmen and guardianship authorities, they all graze a single mother, driven into a corner by everyday life and life circumstances, in order to apply all the fullness of their powers to show her the power of the state and remove children from her, but at the same time these ombudsmen and all bureaucratic ratios do not care that underage children are unaccompanied by their elders in foreign American families where they are "instilled in values." Almost a hundred children "slip" past the eyes of the authorities and, to the surprise of the Foreign Ministry, find themselves in the United States as "students" where, by definition, they should not be. A state that does not want to engage in the upbringing of its younger generation and strengthening the family as the basis for raising children has a very bad future. Previously - a kindergarten, an october, a pioneer, a Komsomol member, a citizen - throughout his life ideological support in the interests of the state, but now he was born - hang out yourself, be at least a punk, at least OMO, GOMO, at least a skinhead, dancer, or rapper, don't care - the main thing is pay taxes. Then we are surprised that in a year up to fifty idiots identified who are ready to take revenge on neighbors, classmates, teachers, the state ..
        4. Far East
          Far East April 17 2020 09: 30 New
          0
          (they have no time for it now) I do not agree! all this is nonsense!
      2. Lipchanin
        Lipchanin April 16 2020 17: 06 New
        +2
        Quote: kjhg
        But the state has withdrawn from its part of the educational function.

        Or maybe all the same, it’s the parents’s self-elimination?
        Why is it always someone to blame, kindergarten, school, street, Army, but never parents?
        The function of parents to give birth, and then someone else should educate their child?
        Cuckoos, not parents, come out.
        In the USSR, parents were punished. No one nodded at the street and school. Especially on the state.
        Parents must first bring up.
        Parents should control which books the child reads, which sites they visit, which films they watch, Or should the state also do this?
        And the state, including me. And it’s not THIS for a vegetable; you don’t have to educate him.
        More than 260 propagandists of extremist ideology, including in the criminal procedure, were suppressed.

        Is the state represented by special services able to keep track of everyone?
        Maybe the daddies will break away from the "tanks". Mothers from "Odnoklassniki" will come out and see that their child and the barrel have both cartridges and an explosive device
        Ha the dock must be put together with this youngster and parents
        1. Lipchanin
          Lipchanin April 16 2020 17: 31 New
          +1
          To all the minus one !!! So you left your children to the state?
          Cuckoos ... negative
          1. for
            for April 16 2020 21: 46 New
            +2
            And when your mother was at 2 jobs, there was someone who raised you. You and many confuse the upbringing and organization of children's leisure (accessible), and do not kill and do not steal it to your parents, do not steal the example of the state as it doesn’t work. And no matter how they say it, but society forms more of a person, he is most of the time there after kindergarten or from school.
            1. Lipchanin
              Lipchanin April 17 2020 10: 55 New
              0
              Quote: for
              And when your mother was at 2 jobs, there was someone who raised you.

              The yard. It was in the courtyard that they told me that the weak and the girls should not be offended
              Not a state
              And much more that the yard team taught me
        2. mole
          mole April 16 2020 18: 09 New
          +1
          Not all parents sit in tanks. Many at work are clumsy. Because children need to be dressed, and fed, and given education, which is also paid, at least through tutors.
          1. Lipchanin
            Lipchanin April 16 2020 18: 41 New
            +3
            Quote: Mole
            Not all parents sit in tanks. Many at work are clumsy. Because children need to be dressed, and fed, and given education, which is also paid, at least through tutors.

            Therefore, children are raised by anyone, but not parents.
            In between kalymah, you can tell the child basic things.
            For example, that you can’t kill and steal.
            What can not offend the weak, children and women.
            What you need to stand up for the weak, women and children.
            Or is there not enough time for this too?
            Let the state teach this?
            1. mole
              mole April 16 2020 19: 44 New
              -3
              Let the state teach?
              Yes, let him teach. The state has everything for this. Parents are engaged in upbringing. But the state can be mistaken from time to time, and parents can’t !? It is easier for officials when they are not asked for parents and their children. It’s easier for officials to not answer for anything. I understand that very well. For the same reason, I understand that the absence of such an abstract concept as ideology is also unprofitable for our official. And it is not profitable for our bureaucratic apparatus in the person of the Ministry of Education to take on such responsibility that they have long been getting rid of. Everyone is comfortable. But only in the future we will get it as in the United States: the lion's share of crimes are robberies and drugs. The same will be with us.
        3. Aag
          Aag April 16 2020 18: 45 New
          +1
          I agree. Parental infantilism is ubiquitous.
          In fairness, the parents of my daughter's peers are much younger than me. It happened.)))
        4. Krasnoyarsk
          Krasnoyarsk April 16 2020 19: 00 New
          0
          Quote: Lipchanin
          Or maybe all the same, it’s the parents’s self-elimination?
          Why is it always someone to blame, kindergarten, school, street, Army, but never parents?

          Everything is somewhat more complicated. Of course, there is the fault of the parents. But...
          My grandson is in second grade. He does his homework on the basis that it is a necessity. But reading, apart from homework, is very, I emphasize, very difficult to force. Coercion is not good either. And you can't get interested. Why? Because there is a smartphone. And there are all sorts of "shooters, tanks and other nonsense. And my good home library is not a competitor to these" shooters ". He reads" Russian folk tales "under duress, but where are his thoughts? - In" shooters ".
          And if the state was concerned with educating young people, then, probably, first of all, it would "clean up" the Internet, instead of "shooters" it would launch good educational and cognitive programs. But the state has no money for this.
          The granddaughter has learned the letters, but does not want to read. Why? Because it's a smartphone. You say - so you can take it. We can, and we take it. But if the child is stubborn, and "withdraws into himself" if you take it away. But I, and millions of parents, are not a child psychologist. How to proceed? Hard to coerce? So you can generally instill an aversion to education.
          Not everything is so simple - he told the child and he understood everything and started to execute - it does not happen that way. Nobody knows how to do it. So I'm a grandfather. And tired parents at work? They have enough strength only to control the execution of homework.
          1. Lipchanin
            Lipchanin April 17 2020 10: 58 New
            +1
            Quote: Krasnoyarsk
            And if the state took care of educating young people, then, probably, first of all, it would "clean up" the Internet, instead of "shooters" it would launch good educational and cognitive programs

            So again the state is to blame laughing
            And how do your words fit into this?
            But to read, in addition to homework, it is very difficult to make, I emphasize, very difficult.

            And he will read "good educational and cognitive programs" in his smartphone? laughing
            Are they not there? Yes, it's full !!!!!
            1. Krasnoyarsk
              Krasnoyarsk April 17 2020 13: 39 New
              -1
              Quote: Lipchanin

              So again the state is to blame

              But what does it have to do with - guilty, not guilty?
              Previously, the father, the child helped in the work and thereby received some kind of education. Father set an example. And now? Fathers and children are torn apart. Father came from work, does he need a wife to help? - I have to. He needs to see all the news programs and not from one source? - I have to. Does he need to read something? - I have to. Is he a locksmith, a turner, a baker, a teacher? - No. Is he a psychologist? - No. You, in your imagination, draw an ideal parent who, just out of his laziness, has abandoned raising a child. In life, something is not so. For the most part, the parent simply does not know how; he was not taught this to raise a child. Someone has the ability and ability to do this, but the majority do not. Can you do everything? Sure - no. And in this case, do not consider it shameful to invite a specialist. But parenting is a matter of simple and affordable for everyone.
              I'm not talking about the fact that the parent should, due to inability, completely eliminate himself. No. He is simply obliged from early childhood to instill in the child the rules of behavior in society. But is this only education?
              And yes, the state is to blame. It is to blame for the fact that there was no SUT, all kinds of, and most importantly, accessible circles. At school - a "teacher" and not a teacher.
      3. 4ekist
        4ekist April 16 2020 17: 54 New
        -2
        The term of punishment for attempted murder, article 30, 105 of the Criminal Code. Last update: 31.01.2020/XNUMX/XNUMX

        Contents: Attempted murder Types of unfinished murder When there can be no attempt

        Since up to 105 years of imprisonment can be assigned for a completed murder, according to Article 15 of the Criminal Code of the Russian Federation, taking into account the attempt the convicted person (3/4 of 15 = 11 years - the maximum possible punishment) was given 10 years of imprisonment.
        So for 10-15 years, the little ubl..ku shines, he is already subject to criminal liability.
        1. hhurik
          hhurik April 16 2020 18: 37 New
          0
          Citizen jurizd wink For what purpose do you quote norms whose meaning you don’t understand? To begin with, take the trouble to differentiate between preparation and attempted crime, yet these are two big differences (Article 30 of the Criminal Code of the Russian Federation).
          The maximum sentence for minors depends simultaneously on the age of the perpetrator at the time the crime was committed and the gravity of the crime (part 6 of article 88 of the Criminal Code of the Russian Federation):
          6 years - for adolescents under 16 years of age who have committed crimes of small or medium gravity;
          10 years - for minors from 16 to 18 years old, regardless of the gravity of the crime, as well as for adolescents under 16 years of age who have committed a serious or especially serious crime.

          15 years old l / s youngster - only in your inflamed consciousness can they be appointed as a criminal punishment. wink
          1. 4ekist
            4ekist April 16 2020 18: 51 New
            -3
            I am not "legal". But if I were a lawyer, I made sure that these "boys" receive the full program. So that he does not go to school with normal children, but tramples on the ZONU.
            1. hhurik
              hhurik April 16 2020 19: 05 New
              +5
              Well, if not a specialist - so pass by. laughing Why all sorts of nonsense to post, I do not understand. I suspect you have very superficial knowledge of the "kitchen" of criminal proceedings.
              I’m not surprised if this “case” doesn’t live up to the trial, falls apart at the stage of pre-trial proceedings. Precisely in terms of preparing for the attack, because the client will not jump off the storage of an atypical firearm. Although it is also written on the water with a pitchfork, we must look at the subject of provocation.
              How many are there in the article - as many as 50 cases have been counted, prevented by the competent authorities? And where are the landings, defendants / convicts? This is the same topic for a PRist, Malakhov and Co. would pour crocodile tears from the screen like a new "Columbine", etc. There is nothing. From the word at all.
              1. 4ekist
                4ekist April 16 2020 19: 18 New
                -3
                Yes, we have more talk about the problems of the crouching ladies. I have no words.
      4. _Sergei_
        _Sergei_ April 16 2020 18: 56 New
        0
        And when did the state educate us? Parents, a street and a school are three educators.
      5. Cottodraton
        Cottodraton April 16 2020 20: 38 New
        +2
        Omg, again the state is to blame ...
        Children must first be raised by parents. This even the Soviet state said ...
        As a rule, the parents of such children drink a lot of alcohol ...
      6. tracer
        tracer April 18 2020 05: 23 New
        -3
        I have long been brewing the idea of ​​writing an article about new generations. We're talking about tanks, aircraft, missiles ... They all wanted to sneeze. Again, I generalize. They need the Internet and do nothing at the computer for a lot of money. In these dirty tanks, smelling, solarium, they sit "not assembled". What can you say, you yourself do not see who is growing? And this is a colossal problem. These, having come to power and the elections, are pros..all .... They will hand over for likes on Facebook.
    2. tihonmarine
      tihonmarine April 16 2020 17: 00 New
      +3
      Quote: Finches
      The country needs heroes, but ... gives birth ... You can’t say otherwise!

      Something too often began attacks on schools. There are no rzhachki.
    3. cost
      cost April 17 2020 02: 34 New
      +1
      As previously reported in the FTS DSP, from 2018 to the present, the Federal Security Service has prevented over 50 armed attacks on educational institutions. More than 260 propagandists of extremist ideology, including in the criminal procedure, were suppressed.

      At the end of February, investigators detained two teenagers in Saratov; they are suspected of preparing an attack on the school. A month later, on March 23, massacre was prevented in Sakhalin at an educational institution trained by two students. Just some kind of mass psychosis. In my opinion, it’s time to set a precedent for the severe punishment of such
    4. Res_Ullus
      Res_Ullus April 17 2020 11: 27 New
      0
      Quote: Finches
      The country needs heroes, but ... gives birth ... You can’t say otherwise!

      ABOUT ! To me for a similar, zapikany, one in one post, three years ago a warning was rolled out and banned (I don’t remember how much)! And now I look - it will channel))) Democracy, her mother laughing
  2. Aleksey Aleksandrovich
    Aleksey Aleksandrovich April 16 2020 15: 39 New
    +6
    Who "warmed up" the boy for such an atrocity? It is clear that he did not reach it himself. You need to dig to the roots.
    1. 210ox
      210ox April 16 2020 16: 23 New
      +7
      The roots are there and when ideology was destroyed, Soviet education at all levels. And of course, first of all, our media, the Internet with accessible content of relevant content.
      1. Moreno
        Moreno April 16 2020 16: 33 New
        0
        I agree with you. Soviet ideology of education. They fought at school, but God forbid to offend the younger! Shame on all counts! With the elders it was possible
        1. Lipchanin
          Lipchanin April 16 2020 17: 12 New
          0
          Quote: Moreno
          Soviet ideology of education. They fought at school, but God forbid to offend the younger! Shame on all counts!

          But didn’t he inspire this in your family?
          Not older friends
      2. tihonmarine
        tihonmarine April 16 2020 17: 09 New
        +2
        Quote: 210ox
        The roots are there and when ideology was destroyed, Soviet education at all levels.

        Our media, God knows what they are doing, what program you don’t look at, everywhere talk shows about Ukraine and Karona-19, Malakhovs, Galkins, “let's get married,” but there are no educational and patriotic programs. Films are mostly American gunk. There are no Komsomol pioneers. The old has outlived the new, nothing but Western "democracy" has been given. Where to go and what should young people do? And young people are plasticine, sculpt from it and whoever is lazy, whatever you want. Back in the 90s, Rolan Bykov said "Having lost the youth, we will lose the country."
    2. Aag
      Aag April 16 2020 18: 55 New
      -2
      The first thought that came up after reading the article: FSB boasted? A network that trained imperfect terrorists has been discovered ..... "
    3. Grim Reaper
      Grim Reaper April 16 2020 19: 29 New
      0
      Quote: Alexey Alexandrovich
      Who "warmed up" the boy for such an atrocity? It is clear that he did not reach it himself. You need to dig to the roots.

      Unwanted relationship with classmates. Outcast. Revenge.
      This is one of the options (the most likely) without the involvement of "Western special services"
      Do not look for a hedgehog in a mole hole.
      1. Aleksey Aleksandrovich
        Aleksey Aleksandrovich April 16 2020 20: 22 New
        +1
        What does the Western intelligence service have to do with it? For modern adolescents, the roof goes without Western intelligence. Problems at school, insufficient attention of parents, lots of living examples of massacres by schoolchildren of their peers. All this is superimposed on one another and as a result, something unique can happen.
        A bunch of options. But you need to find and understand why the student was ready to go for it. You can not discard the option that the thought of killing people in him nurtured and strengthened.
        1. Grim Reaper
          Grim Reaper April 16 2020 21: 46 New
          0
          Well, I'm talking about the same thing. request
  3. Pvi1206
    Pvi1206 April 16 2020 15: 39 New
    14
    what young people see on TV is what they’re doing ... it’s necessary to treat the cause, not the effect ...
    1. rocket757
      rocket757 April 16 2020 15: 49 New
      +6
      That's right, these are the consequences .... and they dragged a lot of things to us, destroying everything that was good in the system of Soviet education.
      Maybe everything was not there as it should, but there could not be such a hell as it is now by definition.
    2. Aleksey Aleksandrovich
      Aleksey Aleksandrovich April 16 2020 15: 52 New
      +7
      Modern youth watch little TV, most likely the Internet. If the primary reason that the boy got lost from roaming around certain Internet sites, then the first question should be to his dear parents - "why the hell is your child fumbling around where it is not needed and why you did not know about it, and if you knew, why not stopped? "
      A cardinal, but in my opinion, the most effective way to deal with such phenomena is to cut off the Internet in general, so that it does not exist in principle. Then the problem will disappear by itself. but this is no longer possible. The Internet has become an integral part of our daily lives, without it anywhere.
      Fighting with certain sites does not bring results either. One site will be closed, in a week it will open exactly the same and so on ad infinitum.
      There is only one real way out - children and adolescents need constant monitoring, first of all from their parents!
      1. orionvitt
        orionvitt April 16 2020 16: 17 New
        +7
        Quote: Alexey Alexandrovich
        chop off the Internet in general, so that in principle it does not exist.

        This is not an option. The only option, in my opinion, is to make the Internet domestic, and not based on Western networks. No matter how they scolded China for excessive totalitarianism, they did it. In the end, maintaining order in the country requires some tough measures, otherwise anarchy. If those who have something to hide on the Internet, those who stand up for abstract “Internet freedom”, raise an angry howl about the “bloody gebnya”, then there is only one conclusion, their thoughts and intentions are not good. Otherwise, why be afraid.
        1. Aleksey Aleksandrovich
          Aleksey Aleksandrovich April 16 2020 16: 23 New
          +3
          Quote: orionvitt
          No matter how they blamed China for excessive totalitarianism, but they did it.


          I support as a whole. But we do not have China, try, encroach on the sacred. They will stand behind the Internet, they will not regret their stomachs.
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        3. Aag
          Aag April 16 2020 19: 04 New
          0
          Compare with TV! Federal channels chase such a chernukha that it is necessary to hide the child from the screen!
          ... And in between the news: Hurray!
          1. Aleksey Aleksandrovich
            Aleksey Aleksandrovich April 16 2020 20: 29 New
            +2
            Yes teens do not watch federal channels, do not watch. What is there to watch? Solovyov, Malakhov? Matured people already spit when they see these glamorous faces .... Teenagers live on the Internet.
        4. Mordvin 3
          Mordvin 3 April 16 2020 19: 47 New
          0
          Quote: orionvitt
          The only option, in my opinion, is to make the Internet domestic,

          And how will it differ from the west?
      2. samarin1969
        samarin1969 April 16 2020 18: 50 New
        +2
        Quote: Alexey Alexandrovich
        "Why the hell is your child rummaging around where it is not needed and why you didn't know about it, and if you knew, then why didn't you stop it?"


        This question, in a more decent way, but with the same intonation, I asked my parents many times. 95% shrugged their shoulders - "we can't do anything with our 5-9th graders" ... 5% used "educational supplies of the XNUMXth century" .... I have never seen any benefit from psychologists in this situation.

        Frankly speaking, it's hard for me to imagine "crazy fuses". But most of the problems of young people can be overcome by involving them in making money. Infantile young people with passports are victims of the crazy fantasies of "humanists".
        1. Aleksey Aleksandrovich
          Aleksey Aleksandrovich April 16 2020 18: 58 New
          +3
          Can't do anything? So you need to start educating not from the time when the child grew up and began to fend off hands, but from the diaper.
          In the end, a fool should understand that the Internet and social networks for a teenager should be as small as possible, and there should be constant monitoring for that.
          My wife works in kindergarten. He says that some parents, upon arrival at home, put smartphones with toys and YouTube in the hands of the kids, if only they would not get them. It is clear that children get used to and then can not live without gadgets. But a book does not occur in the hands of takiz mothers and fathers.
          It all starts with the family. I am sure about that.
    3. Ravil_Asnafovich
      Ravil_Asnafovich April 16 2020 15: 59 New
      -4
      I agree, probably sees Solovyov, Skabeyeva, Kiselev, and the like ...
      1. Aleksey Aleksandrovich
        Aleksey Aleksandrovich April 16 2020 16: 11 New
        +5
        I doubt that teenagers are watching Solovyov or Skobeev. Rather, they watch Dude and Leshik Navalny.
        1. Aag
          Aag April 16 2020 19: 06 New
          0
          "Rather, they watch Dudya and Leshik Navalny."
          With this approach of the state to the media, these figures have a head start ...
          1. Aleksey Aleksandrovich
            Aleksey Aleksandrovich April 16 2020 19: 31 New
            +1
            This is a trend. Youth is against, always. The truth in most cases does not understand against what is against, but against.
            1. Aag
              Aag April 16 2020 19: 34 New
              0
              Конечно.
              That is why it is necessary to give them, and even better, to give them the right vector.
              1. Aleksey Aleksandrovich
                Aleksey Aleksandrovich April 16 2020 20: 30 New
                0
                Mom and Dad set and support the direction of the vector. The rest is secondary.
                1. Aag
                  Aag April 16 2020 20: 48 New
                  0
                  Well, if so.
                  And now a lot of things are dripping on a fragile mind. Yes, and mom and dad, sometimes, are also not a model ...
  4. Mavrikiy
    Mavrikiy April 16 2020 15: 40 New
    +3
    prevented over 50 armed attacks on educational institutions. More than 260 propagandists of extremist ideology, including in the criminal procedure, were suppressed.
    The statistics are good, but what's the point? The highest measure is for terrorism.
    1. hohkn
      hohkn April 16 2020 16: 45 New
      +3
      Quote: Mavrikiy
      The highest measure is for terrorism.

      In general, it would not hurt. But in this particular case - for starters, parents flutter the undergrowth so that they could not sit for at least a week, and also slept only while standing.
    2. 30143
      30143 April 16 2020 16: 48 New
      -2
      Rope and cartridges of money are worth. But to the mines, to the mine without the right to climb ...
  5. DMB 75
    DMB 75 April 16 2020 15: 45 New
    +9
    prevented over 50 armed attacks on educational institutions. More than 260 propagandists of extremist ideology, including in the criminal procedure, were suppressed.

    Work. Work, brothers.
    1. Aleksey Aleksandrovich
      Aleksey Aleksandrovich April 16 2020 15: 55 New
      +5
      Very accurately noticed. It is unknown how many young lives the employees saved. This little kid wanted to "deal" with his classmates.
  6. Nikolaevich I
    Nikolaevich I April 16 2020 16: 11 New
    +4
    Krendets! Swam ... to give the country coal ... fine, but to x ...... a lot!
  7. polar fox
    polar fox April 16 2020 16: 21 New
    +7
    strange ... our schools are closed .... why attack there?
    1. Aleksey Aleksandrovich
      Aleksey Aleksandrovich April 16 2020 20: 09 New
      0
      Are schools always closed?
  8. Old partisan
    Old partisan April 16 2020 16: 30 New
    +5
    Listen, do not be ashamed to write about such a wonderful work of super organs. Well done detained terrorists.
    They should deal with this kid DKM at the department of the Ministry of Internal Affairs.
    Felts in Krasnoyarsk do not sell drugs on an especially large scale. maybe foreign spies are over?
    Well, yes, when a man with a gun approached the central office the whole time ... the special forces could not disarm him. Probably Rambo was. And the kid is still that goal. Still it is cruel to swaddle and extrude.
    A disgrace.
    1. forester1971
      forester1971 April 16 2020 22: 42 New
      +1
      In your opinion, did you have to praise, give Snickers, and write a thank you letter to your parents for preparing a worthy member of the community?
  9. JonnyT
    JonnyT April 16 2020 16: 44 New
    +1
    All are much more sophisticated ....

    Everyone is surfing the Internet, reading all kinds of slag ..... there’s a little boy offended by the world, girls don’t like friends, classmates beat and humiliate, pour out their souls on some kind of forum and there is an uncle who motivates him to columbine, in every possible way psychologically treats him, directs him in the preparation of the attack .... but where does this uncle come from? Pral from abroad

    The enemy does not sleep, it becomes more sophisticated, does not shun any methods to cause damage,
    Be careful and take care of your children!
    1. Aag
      Aag April 16 2020 19: 42 New
      0
      There are enough domestic uncles ...
  10. georggy
    georggy April 16 2020 17: 07 New
    0
    The freak has parents.
    Or are they again nothing to do with ???
  11. anjey
    anjey April 16 2020 17: 08 New
    +1
    Schools do not work, all on self-isolation and teachers and schoolchildren, what did he remotely plan to attack? So the FSB did well, it seems that they calculated on an Internet. Now we are all under the hood.
  12. Amateur
    Amateur April 16 2020 17: 36 New
    0
    FSB prevented an armed attack on a school in Krasnoyarsk

    The FSB caught a frog, found a straw and puffed it.
    Look at this monster !!!
    What a 14 year old boy can do. Show off in front of friends. We'll strap him on the back to kick and all the cases. And these "fighters" represent IAD (imitation of vigorous activity). Several years ago, a certain district prosecutor's office opened a criminal case against the director of a rural school for the fact that his school had an unlicensed Wind. These Krasnoyarsk "Pronin majors" are from the same opera.
    1. Aleksey Aleksandrovich
      Aleksey Aleksandrovich April 16 2020 20: 11 New
      +2
      The fact that you are a storyteller or a storyteller, I was convinced no later than yesterday. A certain prosecutor's office, a certain village where pensioners were "thrown" for payments. You specify what you are talking about. "Certain" is about nothing. Or is it such a secret?
      1. Clone
        Clone April 17 2020 02: 19 New
        +1
        Quote: Alexey Alexandrovich
        "Certain" is about nothing.

        Well, I don't know about pennies, as well as about the "Major Pronins" ... but bringing the director of a rural school to "severe responsibility" for an unlicensed Windows is a real fact, they showed and discussed on TV. "...Microsoft estimated the cost of the programs at 254 rubles. The school principal stated that he was not involved in installing the programs; they were installed by the computer supplier. On May 035,31, 7, Ponosov was sentenced to a fine of 2007 rubles, later he appealed the verdict and on December 5000, 19 he was fully acquitted... "(c) In 2007 prices, if that ...
      2. Amateur
        Amateur April 17 2020 06: 06 New
        0
        The fact that you are a storyteller or a storyteller, I was convinced no later than yesterday. A certain prosecutor's office, a certain village where pensioners were "thrown"

        Respected! Could you please copy my comment about pensioners and their "throwing" and put it in your comment. And then I did not write something like that. Maybe there is something wrong with my head. Or maybe you.
  13. bistrov.
    bistrov. April 16 2020 18: 29 New
    +3
    Most importantly, there is no labor education. It used to be like that? I’ve grown a little, you already had some responsibilities, while your parents were at work, you had to give the pigs, for this, go pick up the nettles, chop it, knead the mesca and give it to the pigs, go to the pond in the evening to find your geese, drive them home, older it became already other duties, more complicated, for example, since 10 years in the summer every day I went with my mother to the collective farm field, helped her process the share, went to the store for bread, it was also my duty to look after my younger sister, too to me, apart from many other minor worries, somehow: to tidy up and sweep in the house, in the evening to meet and drive home cattle from the pasture, etc.
    All this brought up responsibility and drove bad thoughts out of my head, take a sawn-off shotgun and go to school to shoot people ... !!!? , I could not have dreamed of this in a terrible dream.
    1. Aleksey Aleksandrovich
      Aleksey Aleksandrovich April 16 2020 20: 44 New
      +3
      I agree. From the age of seven in the garden, in the haymaking, and so, on the farm "died". And the pancake survived, became a normal person. Five bikes and two mock-ups, and nafig I didn't need any internet. Grew up, the girl began to touch her breasts in a club at a disco and not only, I tried moonshine, checked out so to speak. He entered the military, graduated, served everywhere, looked at everyone.
      No, we, the generation of the 80s were completely different. Stronger, more resistant to difficulties. Current adolescents are thin.
  14. Charik
    Charik April 16 2020 18: 42 New
    0
    Amersky have played enough shooters - they didn’t think of it for nothing, obviously someone pushed such a topic into the head
  15. Looking for
    Looking for April 16 2020 19: 07 New
    0
    "dark" information.
  16. DPN
    DPN April 16 2020 22: 31 New
    0
    They stopped building communism, so they climbed out of all the cracks. Out of politics, we are the result.
  17. Clone
    Clone April 17 2020 02: 07 New
    +1
    By and large, the current state has not withdrawn from education .. it prevents teachers and parents from raising normal teenagers on the basis of our Russian traditions. That is why ignoramuses are well aware of their rights and absolutely do not delve into the performance of their duties. Yes, there are a lot of talking houses from the high tribunes ... both about education and about patriotism. As a result, we get narcissistic, selfish "tram" boors, for whom life consists only in satisfying personal needs and interests.