U.S. suspects China in nuclear charge testing

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U.S. suspects China in nuclear charge testing

The United States does not rule out the possibility that China is secretly testing low-power nuclear charges. These suspicions are reflected in the report of the US State Department, sent to Congress. It is reported by The Wall Street Journal.

The report does not publish specific evidence that China is violating its obligations under the nuclear test ban treaty. However, in Washington, it is noted that Beijing throughout 2019 maintained a high level of activity at the Lobnor test site, used by China for nuclear research. In addition, the US suspicions cause frequent blockages by the Chinese side of the transmission of data from stations monitoring the seismic and radiation conditions.



China’s possible preparations for year-round use of the Lobnor test site, the use of explosion-proof rooms, extensive earthworks in Lobnor (...) the frequent blocking of data from stations of the international monitoring network (...) are of concern

- the document says.

The report doubts that China is adhering to the "zero level" standard, which is adhered to in the moratorium on nuclear testing by the United States, Britain and France. At the same time, the document notes that in 2019 Russia generally complied with the provisions of START-3.

Earlier it was reported that the United States intends to include China in the signing of a new arms control treaty, but so far it has not received consent from Beijing. China has repeatedly stated that it does not intend to join the START treaty, but promise to abide by its provisions.
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    1. +11
      April 16 2020 11: 19
      This public cannot lie.
      More recently, they just as unfoundedly blamed Russia for this.
      1. +8
        April 16 2020 11: 23
        Elections are just around the corner, now an epidemic will pass and this will begin. Fantasy will envy.
      2. +4
        April 16 2020 11: 27
        The United States does not rule out the possibility that China is secretly testing low-power nuclear charges.

        The states "honestly" adhere to the signed treaties, and someone allegedly violates them - A-I-Yai, how bad it is!
        1. +4
          April 16 2020 11: 54
          When all the passes were issued and the light was dimmed in the lobby, Yakov Menelaevich recalled: these clean eyes, this confident look he saw in Tagan prison in 1922, when he himself sat there on a trifling matter
        2. +1
          April 16 2020 12: 39
          they do not adhere to the signed agreements, they dump them from them when they are impatient to unilaterally, so to negotiate with this burp of Europe is an empty matter.
      3. +5
        April 16 2020 12: 01
        So they are preparing the ground for their tests, or they are already testing and there has been a leak of information. How else can the allegations of the two states be linked?
      4. 0
        April 16 2020 12: 05
        The United States is right in its own way - everyone who is close to them in power should be included in the "Washington Treaty".
        money love stability, war is a break in the pattern and the incredible highs of the winning countries and the failures of the losers.
        1. -1
          April 16 2020 13: 07
          Quote: antivirus
          The United States is right in its own way - everyone who is close to them in power should be included in the "Washington Treaty".

          Only Russia is "close in power".
          China's nuclear weapons still rivet and rivet to these levels ...

          So the United States is clearly leading a completely stupid information company. Called to justify withdrawal from all treaties to ensure strategic stability.
          1. +1
            April 16 2020 13: 20
            Only Russia is "close in power".
            China's nuclear weapons still rivet and rivet to these levels ...

            --- so keep there under contracts, if friends agree, if not, rivals. let's all go to the garden ... on free bread
      5. +1
        April 16 2020 12: 05
        I (and not only others) think that something is not being discussed with Fukushima. But this is not China.
        1. 0
          April 16 2020 12: 18
          It is worth typing on youtube "Recent cases of the use of nuclear weapons" - immediately there are videos on this topic, some are quite interesting and thought-provoking. Yes, and this topic was raised here on VO:
          https://topwar.ru/13269-ssha-primenyali-takticheskoe-yadernoe-oruzhie-v-afganistane-i-irake.html
      6. -1
        April 16 2020 12: 23
        U.S. suspects China in nuclear charge testing... filled with wild coronavirus! laughing
      7. +1
        April 16 2020 12: 49
        As always, This audience is covering up its LiveJournal .. They have in the active phase the development of new nuclear BG.

        And on Russia's Charge: "The United States accused Russia of experimenting with nuclear weapons
        According to the State Department, Moscow violated the moratorium. The State Department’s report on countries' compliance with arms control agreements says that Russia did not inform the States about such tests last year, so Washington could not exercise its right to verify data.
        Deputy Foreign Minister Sergei Ryabkov denied the accusations. He called on the United States to abandon disinformation. "
      8. -1
        April 16 2020 12: 50
        Quote: Spade
        This public cannot lie.
        More recently, they just as unfoundedly blamed Russia for this.

        Lies and accusations, this is their policy and bread .. There they live! Accused, bombed, robbed .. negative
        That's just Russia is constantly bothering them now ..
    2. +4
      April 16 2020 11: 19
      The report raises doubts that China is complying with the "zero level" standard

      There will be facts and not doubts, then grunt, otherwise the world still remembers a test tube with white powder in the UN, and how it all ended.
      1. 0
        April 16 2020 12: 09
        This time they have nothing to shake. Therefore, only "express concern."
        They appointed the Chinese as the main outcast? A day does not pass so that they are not accused of anything.
    3. +2
      April 16 2020 11: 21
      Oh and dubious you became the United States, oh and dubious ....
      It seems to you that the Russians elected Trump, then China coronavirus let the whole world go, then North Korea threatens national security ...
      Now China is suspected of conducting nuclear charge tests.
      Right mania some kind of suspicion. Maybe it's time to see a therapist ?!
      We can recommend Kashpirovsky’s sessions. Suspicion will not help, but the commissures will dissolve at a time.
      1. +4
        April 16 2020 11: 26
        Quote: prior
        but the commissures will dissolve at a time.

        They have nothing to think about. And here even the spikes will resolve ...
    4. +4
      April 16 2020 11: 22
      Sanctions? for states after all, just suspicion is enough ....
    5. 0
      April 16 2020 11: 32
      Have you seen Kuzkin Mother?
      ... can Repeat!
      And then the Boot on the UN rostrum.
    6. +1
      April 16 2020 11: 35
      U.S. suspects China in nuclear charge testing
      Geldings like to blame others for what they themselves are involved in.
    7. +2
      April 16 2020 11: 37
      Such is the fate of the United States - to suspect everyone, to accuse without giving evidence, and then to impose sanctions. It is difficult for a "hegemon" to look after order in the world, because for some reason, not everyone wants to obey him and live according to the rules and standards established by him.
      1. +4
        April 16 2020 11: 44
        Quote: rotmistr60
        for some reason, not everyone wants to obey him and live according to the rules and regulations established by him.

        only for some reason, according to the rules and regulations established by them, others should live .... and to the states in general no law has been written ....
    8. +1
      April 16 2020 11: 37
      START3 is bursting at the seams .... the agreement on the ban on testing nuclear weapons is as follows.
    9. 0
      April 16 2020 11: 42
      Agreements with the USA are not valid. All. Every action by the United States to achieve unilateral advantages must be answered with nuclear testing. Let the North Americans test the low-power charges. Our "answer to Chamberlain" can only be one - "Mother of Kuzma" and a list of cities to which she will be delivered, if ....
    10. +1
      April 16 2020 11: 42
      Modestly however. They have not forgotten about us either ... with the same fantasies sucked from an inflamed brain!
      Russia could conduct experiments related to nuclear weapons, this is stated in the annual report of the State Department submitted to Congress. It is possible that Russia is conducting tests in such a way that nuclear energy is released from the explosive container, and this raises concerns about Russia's obligations regarding notifications in accordance with the agreement, ”the Foreign Ministry said. At the same time, the State Department emphasized that they did not have information about Russia conducting such experiments in 2019.
    11. KCA
      0
      April 16 2020 11: 43
      Is the USA such a backward country that it can remotely block seismic stations? And they do not know how to do radioisotope analysis of air? Well then, it’s true, the only thing that remains to be suspected is that we could ask us if China carried out "tests of low-power nuclear charges"
    12. +1
      April 16 2020 11: 55
      The United States does not rule out the possibility that China is secretly testing low-power nuclear charges.

      It sounds somehow irrelevant, not scary and familiar ...
      We need to be more creative: "China massively molds and uses nuclear warheads in the coronavirus and Novichok, and also wants to rape all German women (French women, Italians, Swedes - underline the necessary) !!!" The entire US intelligence community knows this, but, of course, it will not give out sources!
      1. 0
        April 16 2020 18: 07
        Do not prompt, remember, they read you!
    13. 0
      April 16 2020 12: 06
      The US is setting the stage for its own nuclear tests.
    14. +2
      April 16 2020 12: 29
      Just the other day, they expressed similar suspicions about Russia, it looks like the states are preparing themselves to withdraw from the 1974 treaty, as always as an "offended" party on the wave of categorical and unsubstantiated lies.
      There is a tendency for the US to exit on far-fetched occasions from all the START-restricting treaties
    15. -1
      April 16 2020 12: 31
      That’s it, China is now simply universal evil ...
    16. +2
      April 16 2020 13: 04
      Quote: Spade
      This public cannot lie.
      More recently, they just as unfoundedly blamed Russia for this.

      Despite the fact that there are a sufficient number of monitoring stations around Russia and China, and in tests before the announcement of a moratorium on nuclear tests, experiments were conducted that make it possible to determine nuclear explosions with a power of 100 kt or less (there was information that from 1 kt, but not confirmed). No, of course, you can use various expensive tricks and experience low-power charges, but what's the point? And on Lobnor, the Chinese can carry out preparatory work for the next series of hydro-nuclear (subcritical) tests

      Quote: Evil543
      So they are preparing the ground for their tests, or they are already testing and there has been a leak of information. How else can the allegations of the two states be linked?

      They carried out subcritical explosions, just like us and China. A full-fledged nuclear explosion cannot be hidden. The equipment is too sensitive now. And the charges? "That's what the pike is for, so that the crucian carp does not sleep." This mechanism works flawlessly. It is more difficult to prove that you did not do something there. And to run the Old, accusing that some country is violating something - it's very simple ... And they know how to use it very well. And we are always ashamed to do that. We try to ensure that the accusations are not unfounded. But we have not learned how to "respond" to such accusations. What is the press conference on the new cruise missile 9M729? A parody of the answer, not the answer ...

      Quote: Snail N9
      It is worth typing on youtube "Recent cases of the use of nuclear weapons" - immediately there are videos on this topic, some are quite interesting and thought-provoking. Yes, and this topic was raised here on VO:
      https://topwar.ru/13269-ssha-primenyali-takticheskoe-yadernoe-oruzhie-v-afganistane-i-irake.html

      "Conspiracy on the march !!!" You can find anything on the net. I even came across a site where it was said in all seriousness about the atomic bombing of Dresden and Stalingrad during World War II ...

      Quote: iouris
      Agreements with the USA are not valid. All. Every action by the United States to achieve unilateral advantages must be answered with nuclear testing. Let the North Americans test the low-power charges. Our "answer to Chamberlain" can only be one - "Mother of Kuzma" and a list of cities to which she will be delivered, if ....

      Sound, plz, which agreements with the United States are not valid. Only specifically, not blah blah. "Kuzkina's mother". And how to deliver it to the enemy's territory is beyond your enlightened opinion. The main thing is to show your urya-patriotism. And do not care about everything else? so what?

      Quote: Romanenko
      Just the other day, they expressed similar suspicions about Russia, it looks like the states are preparing themselves to withdraw from the 1974 treaty, as always as an "offended" party on the wave of categorical and unsubstantiated lies.
      There is a tendency for the US to exit on far-fetched occasions from all the START-restricting treaties

      So far, they are not going to withdraw from the test ban treaty. Because they are well aware that then they will open the gates for everyone who wants to get nuclear weapons. And first of all for Iran. It’s one thing when a nuclear test can turn a country into a rogue, because they are forbidden and quite different if allowed.
      There are no tendencies to withdraw from START. Since such an exit is not profitable for the US military industry. They will find themselves at a disadvantage. But the political idle talk of the same Trump in this regard is big politics. All of them are statements and charges.
      1. +1
        April 16 2020 13: 13
        Quote: Old26
        There are no tendencies to withdraw from START. Since such an exit is not profitable for the US military industry.

        I will save this your phrase. In a year, we’ll laugh at her.
    17. +3
      April 16 2020 14: 18
      Quote: Spade
      I will save this your phrase. In a year, we’ll laugh at her.

      Save. But unlike Mikhail Nikolayevich Zadornov, who left us, I do not consider the Americans "stupid". And they are well aware that withdrawal from START will now hit them first of all. Our nuclear weapons complex (NAC) has not been destroyed. It is easier for us to increase the number of warheads than the number of carriers. The opposite is true for the Americans. They will be able to increase the number of carriers (for this they have various options), but what will they put on them? The number of nuclear charges they have is limited to those that they have in operational storage and operationally deployed. They will be able to start producing new warheads from about 2030, because, having experienced the euphoria from the collapse of the USSR, they "spat" on their OYK. And when they realized it, it became clear that not only large financial investments were needed, but also time. They will be able to produce new BGs from about 2030 (and if you believe one of the latest reports from their Ministry of Energy, then from 2034). Until that time, they can only upgrade their BGs in an amount of about 300 per year and upgrade about the same number. Therefore, I believe that they are unlikely to withdraw from the agreement. Still, the modernization potential is not endless)
    18. 0
      April 16 2020 16: 44
      Jane Psaki prompted? Or who else is no less aware of her?

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